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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2016, 07:00:25 AM »
No, I'm saying it is a kabuki dance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabuki_dance).  Everyone in congress knew that such a bill could not become law without doing major damage to an important ally, and if it had any chance of not being vetoed it wouldn't have been brought up for a vote.  But this way members of congress can say hey we tried, and it may make the Saudis more amenable in other negotiations.

What are your thoughts about it on a personal level, as far as right or wrong?

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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2016, 07:08:09 AM »
9/11 Lawsuit Bill: Could Congress Override Obama’s Expected Veto?

9.9.2016

Days before the 15th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2011 terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, the U.S. House of Representatives unanimously passed a bill Friday that would allow victims’ families to sue Saudi Arabia for its alleged role.

Dubbed the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA, the long-brewing measure received largely overwhelming support within Congress, but President Barack Obama has long been opposed to the notion and many believe he will veto the bill.

On the other hand, it’s entirely possible Obama, who has a little more than five months left in his second final term, could see his presidential veto overridden, according to Politico.

JASTA proponents have said the bill will give the families of 9/11 victims justice, but critics suggest the measure could greatly affect U.S. foreign relations with Saudi Arabia and with allies.

Under federal law, once the JASTA bill is sent to Obama, he has 10 days, not including Sundays, to veto it, which would then send the bill back to the Senate. Politico reports that the Senate is technically in session but it’s only to hinder Obama from employing a recess appointment for Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court.

Congress will have to set a date for the override, which requires a two-thirds majority in the House, however since it’s an election year not only for the White House but also for many members of Congress, it’s highly unlikely any such vote would take place until after Election Day.

During his time in the Oval Office, Obama’s employed his constitutionally empowered right to veto legislation passed by Congress 10 times. Thus far, the House has been unable to override Obama’s vetoes. The most high-profile example came earlier this year when House Republicans attempted to pass a bill that wouldhave repealed several top line provisions to the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare and considered to be a major part of Obama’s legacy in office. The attempted veto override came up well short of the required majority, 241-186

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2016, 07:19:32 AM »
What does this say about our claimed "War on Terror", to know we'd back out of a golden opportunity to advance?

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« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2016, 07:40:33 AM »
Of course we can't sue Saudi.  They were not responsible for the terrorist attack remember?  That was Iraq.  That is why Bush invaded that country and made sure the Saudis and Bin Ladens family had safe passage out of the US in the days after the attack.

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2016, 10:48:57 AM »
Of course we can't sue Saudi.  They were not responsible for the terrorist attack remember?  That was Iraq.  That is why Bush invaded that country and made sure the Saudis and Bin Ladens family had safe passage out of the US in the days after the attack.

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror” – George W. Bush, CBS News Sept. 6, 2006

What a fucking clown.

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2016, 11:57:49 AM »
What are your thoughts about it on a personal level, as far as right or wrong?

We should stop propping up totalitarian states, apartheid states, states with bad human rights records.  We should stop undermining democratically elected governments just because those governments might be hostile against American business interests.

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2016, 12:14:31 PM »
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror” – George W. Bush, CBS News Sept. 6, 2006

What a fucking clown.

he really said that?  what a dick. 

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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2016, 12:17:41 PM »
We should stop propping up totalitarian states, apartheid states, states with bad human rights records.  We should stop undermining democratically elected governments just because those governments might be hostile against American business interests.

What are your thoughts on the TPP, Tim?

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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2016, 12:48:55 PM »
he really said that?  what a dick. 

One thing about him, is that you just know he remained clueless throughout.  He really didn't know what was happening most of the time, and he's probably the only decent person from that administration.

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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2016, 07:30:41 PM »
What are your thoughts on the TPP, Tim?

It gives too much power to corporations.  allows them to take governments to international court to fight regulations, such as safety, or pollution.  And makes intellectual property rights even worse than they are now.

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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2016, 07:38:07 PM »
It gives too much power to corporations.  allows them to take governments to international court to fight regulations, such as safety, or pollution.  And makes intellectual property rights even worse than they are now.

Then why was Hillary all for TPP, until she had to face Sanders in the primaries, and saw that the people opposed it, from left to right?

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2016, 10:18:49 AM »
It gives too much power to corporations.  allows them to take governments to international court to fight regulations, such as safety, or pollution.  And makes intellectual property rights even worse than they are now.

Interesting how Obama pushes the TPPA while he moves to stop JASTA.

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The TPP comes from 500 official U.S. trade advisors representing corporate interests involved in years of closed-door negotiations while the public, press and Congress were locked out. At the heart of the TPP are new rights for thousands of corporations to sue the U.S. government before a panel of three corporate lawyers that can award unlimited sums, including for loss of future expected profits, to be paid by American taxpayers when the corporations claim U.S. policies violate the new entitlements the TPP would provide them.

He acts like he doesn't give a damn about real Americans.  Wonder why that is.

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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2016, 02:29:20 PM »
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Dear Mr. President:

We are all mothers, fathers, wives, husbands or children who lost loved ones in the cruel and devastating attack on America 15 years ago Sunday.

We miss them. And we grieve at what they have missed in lives cut short by terrorists whose immediate targets were innocents and whose ongoing target is everything America has stood for, fought for and promised to protect and defend since our union was formed. And we anguish especially as we witness the spread of the poisonous ideology that is determined to ensure that 9/11 was only the beginning.

It is a hard day for all of us. But, as we are sure you must know, they are all hard, not just the anniversaries. For some of us, though, this anniversary is harder than any since the attack and we want you to understand why.

We and so many other families have fought for years to know all of the truth about 9/11. We have fought to ensure that anyone and any entity that may have had a responsible role in the murder of 3,000 people in New York, at the Pentagon and across a field in Pennsylvania is held to account for their actions. And, we have struggled to make sure that our laws — and those who are sworn to uphold them — leave nothing undone in our battle against terrorism.

The Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act addresses a missing piece of America's anti-terrorism campaign — a piece that is missing because of grievously errant misconstructions of earlier laws meant to ensure that the families of Americans harmed or killed as a result of terrorist attacks with respect to which foreign governments may be complicit will be able to seek justice in our courts. That right is important for our nation, because it will help to deter state-sponsored terrorism. It will help uncover truth — such as the mysteries surrounding the ability of 19 hijackers — barely educated, not speaking much English and without visible resources — to come to America, learn to fly, set up camps in several cities and hijack four commercial airliners, crashing them spectacularly into the heart of our government and the heart of our economy.

You have had your differences with us about JASTA. And we have been supportive of the reasonable efforts Congress has made to address your misgivings. But, now, Congress has acted, and the result is legislation that both the United States Senate and the House of Representatives passed without a single dissenting voice.

JASTA will be delivered to you soon, perhaps Monday. And, here lies the reason this anniversary is made even harder than past ones: We don't know what you will do. We are left to wait, to hear remembrances and reassurances and regrets.

Mr. President, we don't need your comfort. We have each other. We don't need words — other than the words "I will sign JASTA into law when it reaches my desk." We need those words and a simple action — the stroke of the only pen that can give us and the American people the assurance they need that your foreign policy and your defense of this great nation include a determination that truth be our guidepost, that victims of terrorist attacks also have rights in our courts and that the justice delayed for the 9/11 families will not become justice denied.

Please, Mr. President, don't slam the door shut and abandon us. We need the Executive Branch to join Congress and protect us and all future victims of terrorism. Please sign JASTA.

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2016, 03:19:32 PM »


President Obama will veto a bill allowing families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts, White House press secretary Josh Earnest announced today, 12 September 2016.

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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2016, 03:35:39 PM »

President Obama will veto a bill allowing families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts, White House press secretary Josh Earnest announced today, 12 September 2016.

Of course he will! Typical Libtard. Screw America first. Blame America first. Cost America first. Help Americans never.


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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2016, 04:04:27 PM »
Of course he will! Typical Libtard. Screw America first. Blame America first. Cost America first. Help Americans never.



Only thing 'lib' about this guy imo, is how liberally he devotes himself to globalism and the wealthy.  He's a lying despicable neocon --and thanks to his hopelessly devoted partner, the media, he's been allowed to hide behind the "liberal" tag.  It makes it so everyone will blame "the liberals" for the crimes of the neocons.  Real cute.


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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2016, 01:16:10 PM »
Top GOP senator 'confident' of 9/11 bill veto override

Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn voiced confidence on Monday that the chamber would override a promised veto from President Obama of legislation that allows the families of 9/11 victims to sue Saudi Arabia in U.S. courts.

"This would be the first one under this president and I think it would be well deserved," the Texas Republican, who helped spearhead the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), told reporters.

Asked if he thought Obama's expected veto would be overridden by less than a unanimous vote, he added, "I can't imagine [why] if nobody objected to the bill. I don't know why they would change their vote on a veto override."  

White House press secretary Josh Earnest emphasized earlier Monday that Obama would veto the bill even though it sailed through Congress unanimously because of concerns that it would open up the United States to retaliatory lawsuits.

Under current U.S. law, victims may sue a country designated as a state sponsor of terrorism, such as Iran. The bill would allow citizens to sue countries without that designation, including Saudi Arabia.

Though Obama is expected to continue lobbying against the bill even after he vetoes it, Cornyn appeared to close the door to negotiating changes to the legislation.

"How do you compromise on something that passed unanimously in both houses?" he asked.

Instead, the Texas Republican said the president should back away from the veto threat, adding that it is "baffling that... Obama would rather make life easier for state sponsors of terrorism than he would lend support to the families of 9/11."

The fight over the legislation has pitted congressional Democrats against the president. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), who worked with Cornyn on the bill and is expected to be the next Senate Democratic leader, and Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) sent a letter to Obama on Friday urging him to support the legislation.

The veto battle comes as the Senate, which is currently scheduled to be in session through the first week of October, is eying an early exit from Washington. The move would allow Majority Leader Mitch McConnell(R-Ky.) to get his incumbents back on the campaign trail as his party defends 24 Senate seats in November.

Cornyn, however, predicted senators would remain in Washington until the president sends back the bill, adding "I'd presume we would not leave until we had the chance to vote on a veto override following the [continuing resolution]."

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2016, 09:45:23 AM »


Obama Is Blocking The Path To Justice For 9/11 Victims’ Families

Back in ‘08, when people said Barack Obama was “the one,” I didn’t realize they meant that he would be “the one” and only person standing alone in blocking the path to justice for the 9/11 victims’ families.

Mr. Obama, please get out of our way and let us have some justice and peace 15 years after the brutal murder of our 3,000 loved ones.

JASTA (Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, S.2040) is a well-thought out, powerful piece of anti-terrorism legislation. It does exactly what it says—it brings all those who fund terrorism to justice.

In a time where groups like ISIS are stomping around the globe decapitating people, ramming busses into crowds, and blowing up nightclubs, everyone (except Barack Obama) agrees that we need to stop terrorism in its tracks. One effective way to stop terrorists is to attack them at the root of their enterprise: their terrorist funding.

Without funds, terrorists can’t run and maintain websites or training camps. Without funding, terrorists can’t rent trucks, buy bomb-making materials, acquire assault rifles, or board airplanes to fly across borders. Without funding, terrorists can’t produce viral videos, create false documents, or recruit lone wolves. Without funding, terrorists are stopped dead in their tracks.

It goes without saying that the largest benefactor of terrorist groups such as ISIS and al Qaeda is the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is the incubator for global jihad. Saudis build madrassahs where fiery Imams like Anwar Awlaki preach hate, print and distribute school books that teach violence against infidels, and pay large sums of protection money to terrorists like Osama Bin Laden.

Notably, the Saudi role in radical jihad does not stop at underwriting terrorism—it carries into logistical support of individual attacks, as well. This logistical role is how the Saudis are linked to the 9/11 attacks.

Contrary to what President Obama says about the 28 pages (28 pages that Obama admitted to never reading), there is plenty of “there” found in the 28 pages—and it’s called EVIDENCE of the Saudi financial and logistical support of the 9/11 hijackers who were embedded inside the United States. See end note below for this specific evidence.

Shockingly, the facts and evidence found in the 28 pages were not fully investigated because at the time (2002-2004), according to Vice President Cheney, we were a nation at war and we could not divert our vital resources into investigating the Saudi role in the 9/11 attacks.

As Vice President Dick Cheney said, “An investigation must not interfere with the ongoing efforts to prevent the next attack, because without a doubt a very real threat of another perhaps more devastating attack still exists. The people and agencies responsible for helping us learn about and defeat such an attack are the very ones most likely to be distracted from their critical duties.”

In addition to being a nation at war and and unable to spare vital investigatory resources, the 9/11 Commission was also hamstrung by its extremely limited initial budget of $3 million and its extremely short 18-month time frame. Moreover due to publishing restraints and page limits, the 9/11 Commission was unable to include all information and evidence in its Final Report. Needless to say, the 9/11 Commission’s investigation into the Saudis was neither robust, nor complete.

Several 9/11 Commissioners—Democrat and Republican—have confirmed this fact by going on the record stating that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was not adequately investigated by the 9/11 Commission. Moreover, Commissioners Kerrey and Lehman said, “The 9/11 Commission did not exonerate Saudi Arabia of culpability for the events of 11th September 2001 or the financing of al Qaeda.

Even still, President Obama persists in protecting the Saudis and saying that the 9/11 Commission exonerated the Saudis. Yet, even given its drastic time, budget, and investigatory limits, the 9/11 Commission was able to conclude that, “Saudi Arabia has long been considered the primary source of al Qaeda funding...charities with significant Saudi government sponsorship diverted funds to al Qaeda. Al Qaeda found fertile fund-raising ground in Saudi Arabia, where extreme religious views are common and charitable giving was both essential to the culture and subject to very limited oversight.”

Perhaps, if President Obama took the time to read the 28 pages, he would understand the wisdom and need for JASTA. The President might also better comprehend why 100 percent of Congress has voted in support of JASTA.

JASTA has achieved what President Obama could not—a truly pure, bi-partisan work-product that serves the best interests of American citizens. JASTA shows that Americans can work together to keep us safer from terrorism. In an era, where all agree that you are either with us or you are with the terrorists, it is interesting to see where President Obama currently stands—alone, and against the will of the American people.

President Obama says that he is opposed to JASTA because it will open up the United States to lawsuits that would cost billions.

What President Obama doesn’t mention is that foreign nations and individuals can already sue the United States via statutes like ATA (Anti-Terrorism Act, 18 U.S.C. s. 2333) and ATS (Alien Tort Statute, 28 U.S.C. s. 1350). The ATS has been in existence since 1789 and ATA since the 90’s. Neither has cost us billions. Neither has opened the floodgates of litigation. Neither has endangered our soldiers nor impeded our ability to carry out drone strikes, troop movements, or torture.

The real reason President Obama opposes JASTA is because it will hold the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia accountable for their role in the 9/11 attacks. And for good reason (found in 80,000 documents in Florida and 28 pages of the Joint Inquiry of Congress), the Saudis are worried about being held accountable in a court of law for their misdeeds.

Saudi Royals aren’t exactly accustomed to having to answer questions, face evidence, or be held responsible for their acts—that’s why President Obama called them free-loaders last spring. President Obama certainly wasn’t worried about offending Saudi Royals then, nor when he paid $4 billion and cut his Iran deal last summer.

Of course, what’s most bothersome and depressing about President Obama’s bowing to this second terrorist regime, is that it runs so completely counter to what this man said he was all about back in 2008.

He promised to restore our faith in government. He promised transparency, rule of law, and accountability. He promised to limit the extent to which lobbyists could affect government. And to the 9/11 families specifically, he promised justice.

President Obama now chooses to protect a foreign regime that fuels hatred and terrorism rather than to protect the rights of American victims. Plain and simple, Obama’s choice is shameful.

Every member of Congress must recognize that President Obama’s two arguments against JASTA are specious. Congress must stand strong in its unanimous passage of JASTA and its protection of American victims of terrorist attacks by overriding President Obama’s veto because it is not just the right thing to do—it is the American thing to do.

Congress, the 9/11 families’ and JASTA’s message is clear: If you fund terrorists that kill Americans you will be held responsible. We, all of us who support JASTA, represent the UNITED States of America and we protect our own, Mr. President—not the Saudis and the terrorists who kill us.

ENDNOTE: directly from the 28 pages:

“Al Bayoumi provided substantial assistance to hijackers Khalid al Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi after they arrived in San Diego in February 2000.”

“Al Bayoumi had extensive contact with SAUDI Government establishments in the United States and received financial support from a SAUDI company affiliated with the SAUDI Ministry of Defense.”

“The documentary evidence that al Bayoumi provided assistance to al Hazmi and al Mihdhar is solid.”

“The FBI discovered that al Bayoumi had far more extensive ties to the SAUDI Government than previously realized.”

“Bassnan has many ties to the SAUDI Government.”

“Bassnan reportedly received funding and possibly a fake passport from SAUDI Government officials.”

“Bassnan and his wife have received financial support from the SAUDI Ambassador to the United States and his wife.”

“Bassnan also has other ties to the SAUDI Government.”

“Bassnan’s wife received a monthly stipend from Princess Haifa.”

“These checks were payable to Bassnan’s wife and were drawn on the Riggs Bank account of Prince Bandar’s wife.”

“Bassnan cashed a check from Bandar in the amount of $15,000.”

“Bassnan’s wife also received at least one check directly from Bandar.”

“Bassnan is an extremist and supporter of Usama Bin Ladin.”

“Bassnan spoke of Bin Ladin as if he were a god.”

“Bassnan also knew Bin Ladin’s family in SAUDI Arabia and speaks on his mobile phone with members of the family who are living in the United States.”

“The Ibn Tamiyah Mosque in Culver City is a site of extremist-related activity.”

“An FBI agent said he believed that SAUDI Government money was being laundered through the Ibn Tamiyah Mosque.”

“There are also indications of SAUDI Government support for terrorist activity through charitable organizations.”

“CIA, Treasury, and FBI officials have all expressed their concern about the al-Haramain Foundation’s ties to both the SAUDI Government and terrorist activity.”

“The al Haramain Foundation has clear ties to the SAUDI Government and intelligence reporting suggests it is providing financial and logistical support to al Qaeda.”

“The FBI has located correspondence between al Bayoumi and the al Haramain Islamic Foundation.”

“The subject of Phoenix and Portland FBI counterterrorism investigations, also has close ties to a member of the SAUDI royal family.”

“Although his name was on the State Department watchlist, BLANK was apparently able to circumvent the Customs Service and the Immigration and Naturalization Service because he was traveling with the SAUDI prince.”

“The FBI expressed their concern that BLANK and others were using their status as SAUDI Arabian Airlines employees as a cover to enable them to transport weapons in and out of the United States.”

“In testimony and interviews, a number of FBI agents and CIA officers complained to the Joint Inquiry about a lack of SAUDI cooperation in terrorism investigations both before and after the September 11 attacks.”

“The SAUDIS have been useless and obstructionist for years.”

“The SAUDIS will only act when it is in their self-interest.”

“When a high level officer was asked how the September 11 attacks might have been prevented, he cited greater SAUDI cooperation, pointing to an example from the summer of 2001 when the U.S. government requested SAUDI assistance, with no success.”

“According to the former Chief of Alec Station, it was clear from about 1996 that the SAUDI Government would not cooperate with the United States on matters relating to Usama Bin Ladin.”

“The SAUDIS had stopped providing background information or other assistance on Bin Ladin because Bin Ladin had too much information about official SAUDI dealings with Islamic extremists in the 1980s for Riyadh to deliver him into U.S. hands.”

“The former Chief of Alec Station thought that the U.S. government’s hope of eventually obtaining SAUDI cooperation was unrealistic because SAUDI assistance to the U.S. government on this matter was contrary to SAUDI national interests.”

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2016, 10:16:20 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2016, 11:10:26 AM »
obama is a pos - why is any surprised. 

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2016, 10:01:47 AM »
obama is a pos - why is any surprised.  

That combo -- killing JASTA while pushing TPP -- makes the guy 100% impossible. The argument for one, defeats the other.  He's totally exposed himself for what he is: the lowest form of politician, downright subterranean.

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2016, 11:28:14 AM »


Obama blocks justice for 9/11 victims' families

By Dr. John Meinhold

It was 10 a.m. in Portsmouth on September 11 this year and the skies were very unsettled. It was gray and grew darker with rolling thunder and rain. It was so different from the clear blue day when the first Twin Tower fell 15 years ago. 15 years ago our country had endured the worst terrorist attack in world history.

2,996 were killed and 6,000 were wounded. 343 firefighters and 72 law enforcement officers perished, making this the deadliest incident for them in our country's history. At least 3,000 children lost a parent. Untold thousands of others have had serious repercussions from the attacks.

Tom McGuinness, the co-pilot of American Airlines flight 11, who was murdered on 9/11, lived only a few blocks from my home.

And still, many unanswered questions remain over who assisted the attackers. Much evidence points to Saudi Arabia where 15 of the 19 hijackers and Osama bin Laden came from. For years, the 9/11 victims' families have pleaded for justice, for their day in court. They want to sue Saudi Arabia. Our government has stonewalled them. For years they lobbied for documents to be released that had been sealed by President George W. Bush. Documents known as the "28 pages" that were finally released earlier this year that shows plenty of possible connections to the Saudis and even Saudi diplomats.

A bill finally has made it through congress called JASTA (Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, S.2040). This legislation will allow the 9/11 victims' families to sue the Saudis and have their day in court. It recently passed by unanimous voice vote in both the Senate and House. It has been sent to President Barack Obama to sign into law. But, the White House says Obama will veto JASTA. What a national disgrace.

Obama weakly claims that passing JASTA will open our country up to lawsuits in foreign countries. The Saudis have threatened they will remove some $700 billion in U.S. assets to disrupt our economy if a 9/11 lawsuit is filed against them. Let them do it. Since when did we cave in to international blackmail?

President Obama spoke at the 9/11 ceremony at the Pentagon this year. He said our country needs to defend "our ideals" and "reaffirm our character as a nation." He speaks with a forked tongue.

Kristen Breitweiser, who lost her husband in the 9/11 attacks said, "The Saudis have the president and the State Department on their side. I think that's un-American, I think it's unpatriotic, I think it's disgusting, frankly. I don't know how President Obama will be able to commemorate the 9/11 attacks, by giving a speech or laying a wreath ... when he stabbed the 9/11 families in the back by supporting the Saudis over 9/11 families."

The White House now says it will lobby congress to prevent an override of Obama's veto of JASTA. Please call our elected representatives and urge them to override Obama's veto of JASTA.

The writer is a U.S. Air Force veteran and resides in Portsmouth.

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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2016, 02:00:51 PM »
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Re: Obama to VETO Bill Allowing 9/11 Victim Families to Sue
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2016, 05:24:30 PM »
Bob Kerrey (not to be confused with John Kerry) says:

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[T]he Saudi government has been engaged in a massive PR campaign in recent months to promote the remarkable and implausible claim that our Commission’s investigation exonerated the Kingdom of any culpability for the rise of al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 attacks themselves.

Nothing could be further from the truth,and it is well past time to set the record straight concerning the Saudis and 9/11 once and for all.... Stated most simply, our investigation found substantial evidence that one or more Saudi government employees located in the United States provided direct aid and support to the 9/11 hijackers. Those Saudi government employees were associated with the Kingdoms Ministry of Islamic Affairs, the same arm of the Saudi government that had primary responsibility for implementing the Kingdoms global efforts to propagate the radical Wahhabi stream of Islam, and that was responsible for supervising Wahhabi proselytizing organizations that directly sponsored al Qaeda, like Al Haramain.