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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #125 on: October 27, 2012, 06:09:06 PM »
Med school isn't really like rocket science.... I got no reason to lie about my profession.. ??? ??? ??? ???

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 Why  don't people believe I am Che Guevara  ? 
Being  a Marxist revolutionary, physician, author, guerrilla leader, diplomat.... isn't really like rocket science, I got  no reason to lie about who I'm .

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #126 on: October 27, 2012, 06:50:20 PM »
ok, are u an employed "medical doctor" then? It's just that ur on here all day and racked up a huge post count very fast. Most doctors don't do this as they are busy -- busy being a doctor, surprisingly -- but maybe u like to post from your surgery/office.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #127 on: October 27, 2012, 06:53:33 PM »
hey nico, its not lack of common sense, its greed for the money

G, I agree. Greed runs this world. However, I know of a lot of docs that do a lot for the community and take care of indigent patients. I have a lot of indigent and Medicaid patients who I take care of that no other physician in the area will see. I do well and I feel that giving back to people who want and need help is the least I could do. The true greedy bastards are the trial attorneys who sue doctors for no reason. Maybe, if docs weren't always trying to save their asses from getting sued then medicine wouldn't be so expensive. Ultimately, improved compliance and lifestyle from patients, more compassion from physicians, decreased litigation and fear of lawsuits, and a unobtrusive insurance industry that has accountants double guessing your decisions would improve healthcare in America. All I can say is that I love my job, but there is a lot of bureacratic BS.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #128 on: October 27, 2012, 06:54:38 PM »
ok, are u an employed "medical doctor" then? It's just that ur on here all day and racked up a huge post count very fast. Most doctors don't do this as they are busy -- busy being a doctor, surprisingly -- but maybe u like to post from your surgery/office.

If you are referring to me it is Saturday evening so I am not at work. Although I did round at three hospitals today  ;D. Cheers mate

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« Reply #129 on: October 27, 2012, 07:30:39 PM »
Hey, which getbigger made you feel welcome when you enlisted....?   :(

See, I just don't get your humor, no offense friend. Seriously, what do you mean by this. If you are referring to when I first came to GB as enlisted no one made me feel welcome. That over 8 years ago and those were brutal times. Every man for himself.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2012, 10:38:46 AM »
Yea I used to be real altruistic and would see all indigents and uninsured. No more. I lift and make money. Nothing about greed-- it's about common sense. God will bless me for all the uninsured I have helped. Usually it is the indigents who are looking to win the lotto and sue your ass. They come to you as 'train wrecks' never having seen a doctor in 20 years and expect the government to foot the bill. They of course are already on Workman's Comp and medical disability. Fuck time for me to make some money. Bodybuild, fuck, and make money...

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2012, 01:39:24 PM »
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 Why  don't people believe I am Che Guevara  ? 
Being  a Marxist revolutionary, physician, author, guerrilla leader, diplomat.... isn't really like rocket science, I got  no reason to lie about who I'm .

....who I am.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2012, 01:40:50 PM »
Yea I used to be real altruistic and would see all indigents and uninsured. No more. I lift and make money. Nothing about greed-- it's about common sense. God will bless me for all the uninsured I have helped. Usually it is the indigents who are looking to win the lotto and sue your ass. They come to you as 'train wrecks' never having seen a doctor in 20 years and expect the government to foot the bill. They of course are already on Workman's Comp and medical disability. Fuck time for me to make some money. Bodybuild, fuck, and make money...



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Re: Just a small thread: why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2012, 01:43:44 PM »
Hey, which getbigger made you feel welcome when you enlisted....?   :(

The Getbig.com forum is like prison. You have to earn the other inmates' respect, which takes time and a lot of posts. I'd have been leery of anyone who was too friendly or welcoming when I first posted here.

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Re: Just a small thread: why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2012, 01:45:16 PM »
Yeah, I am an M.D. Doesn't mean shit as far as what type of person I am or what I contribute to society. I try my best to work hard and care for sick patient's. I find it kind of embarrassing that the guy would even care if people believe him or not. You don't go into medicine to feed your ego. It pays fairly well and you can get some nice stuff, but ego needs to be left at the door. Oh well, hope he does well in the Netherlands.

I suspect that Dutch really doesn't care whether the folks here believe him or not....he just wanted something to post about.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #135 on: October 28, 2012, 02:03:58 PM »
I can believe Dutch being an urologist. Just saying.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #136 on: October 28, 2012, 02:05:34 PM »
Give me 10 names of patients Dr. Dutch. 10 names.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #137 on: October 28, 2012, 02:08:35 PM »
Yea I used to be real altruistic and would see all indigents and uninsured. No more. I lift and make money. Nothing about greed-- it's about common sense. God will bless me for all the uninsured I have helped. Usually it is the indigents who are looking to win the lotto and sue your ass. They come to you as 'train wrecks' never having seen a doctor in 20 years and expect the government to foot the bill. They of course are already on Workman's Comp and medical disability. Fuck time for me to make some money. Bodybuild, fuck, and make money...


You seem like such a swell doctor, however I think I will stick with my current doctor.

By the way, if these folks you reference are on workers' compensation, they likely aren't indigent because they have an income and their medical bills are paid by workers' comp. Workers' comp pays 75% of your salary and 100% of the injury related medical costs. Often people on workers' comp use earned sick leave to cover the other 25% of their salary. Additionally, workers' comp is not taxed. Likewise, folks who qualify for Social Security Disability, have incomes and medical coverage via Medicare or when poor enough, Medicaid.

Many of the uninsured are the working poor in this country. A lot of these folks work several part-time jobs for employers who don't provide medical insurance. The truly indigent often don't work at all. This is either because they are somehow unemployable or sometimes because they chose not to work. When these folks get sick, they often end up at hospital emergency rooms because they cannot be turned away by law and they know that many doctors, like you, won't treat them. Unfortunately, the cost of treating the uninsured and truly indigent is passed on to those who pay for medical care, usually because they have medical insurance. This is one of the reasons, medical insurance premiums are so high and why medical costs are as high as they are.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #138 on: October 29, 2012, 08:15:39 AM »
Give me 10 names of patients Dr. Dutch. 10 names.
your mom X 10

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #139 on: October 29, 2012, 08:18:09 AM »
He pulls his small penis. A real scumbag and a disgrace.
Remember what you pulled last week, RimRat ?

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Re: Just a small thread: why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #140 on: October 29, 2012, 08:23:35 AM »
See, I just don't get your humor, no offense friend. Seriously, what do you mean by this. If you are referring to when I first came to GB as enlisted no one made me feel welcome. That over 8 years ago and those were brutal times. Every man for himself.
btw what humor are you referring to... ???

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #141 on: October 29, 2012, 08:31:40 AM »
Give me 10 names of patients Dr. Dutch. 10 names.

You may want to research what HIPPA is.  Why not ask what his credit card number and expiration date is?

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #142 on: October 29, 2012, 08:42:10 AM »
You may want to research what HIPPA is.  Why not ask what his credit card number and expiration date is?
or if I vote Obama or Romney... :)

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #143 on: October 29, 2012, 02:55:46 PM »
oh i didnt mean the docs , i rather meant pharma industry and insurances in particular.

some docs are good some suck, some just rip of insuarances, its a vicious cycle.



G, completely agree. The docs who run every test and procedure after procedure to milk the insurance companies and patients are just wrong. Believe me, we are well educated, but it does not mean that we or hospitals should charge a patient thousands upon thousands of dollars for a simple procedure. I can see where concierge medicine is going vogue. Think about it, you don't usually go to the supermarket and pay for your food and give an IOU. In medicine, if I see a patient, I have to code for it via ICD9 codes, my biller submits to Medicare or Commercial insurance, and then 4-6 weeks later I will be reimbursed. Medicine is becoming a hassle when it comes to the loops you have to jump through to deal with insurance companies.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #144 on: October 29, 2012, 03:04:35 PM »
Yea I used to be real altruistic and would see all indigents and uninsured. No more. I lift and make money. Nothing about greed-- it's about common sense. God will bless me for all the uninsured I have helped. Usually it is the indigents who are looking to win the lotto and sue your ass. They come to you as 'train wrecks' never having seen a doctor in 20 years and expect the government to foot the bill. They of course are already on Workman's Comp and medical disability. Fuck time for me to make some money. Bodybuild, fuck, and make money...


USMC,

I understand where you are coming from, but I don't like classifying people simply based on their income. Obviously, I am intolerant of individuals who refuse to get insurance, but can pay for cigarettes, beer and drugs. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but usually these people are on the verge of dialysis and God has had his say. A lot of indigent or Medicaid patient's I see are very respectable and appreciate what I do for them. However, sometimes I will deal with obscenely wealthy individuals who feel it is their God given right to monopolize your time and are insensitive to the fact that they are not your only patient. Shit goes both ways. Yes, if you work in an inner city neighborhood you can become very jaded. However, social status in no way justifies assumptions about ones character. As a physician we make an extraordinarily good living compared to 99% of Americans. It does not hurt to give some back. BTW, don't think I a social Democrat as I am a staunch Republican. However, I have met enough people and practiced medicine for a long enough time to realize that there is good and bad everywhere. Moreover, some of the physicians I work with I consider scumbag lowlifes. Make your money you worked hard and deserve it. However, don't be so judgmental about people until you have met them and figured them out. Some are complete dirtbags, but others may have had a bad twist in life. Fuck, I never thought I would get lymphoma at 25...WTF. Shit happens.

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #145 on: October 29, 2012, 03:41:57 PM »
G, completely agree. The docs who run every test and procedure after procedure to milk the insurance companies and patients are just wrong. Believe me, we are well educated, but it does not mean that we or hospitals should charge a patient thousands upon thousands of dollars for a simple procedure. I can see where concierge medicine is going vogue. Think about it, you don't usually go to the supermarket and pay for your food and give an IOU. In medicine, if I see a patient, I have to code for it via ICD9 codes, my biller submits to Medicare or Commercial insurance, and then 4-6 weeks later I will be reimbursed. Medicine is becoming a hassle when it comes to the loops you have to jump through to deal with insurance companies.


So then, how about we go back to the way it was in the 1950's. My father was self-employed. Like a lot of folks we did not have medical insurance. We only went to the doctor if there was something seriously wrong and not for every little thing like some folks do today. Not being insured, we simply paid for an office visit and whatever prescription (if any) the doctor prescribed.

When I see my GP today, the cost of a doctor visit with him is around $130. What do you suppose it was in 1955? Insurance paid him about $75 and I paid $10. Last July after being diagnosed with prostate cancer, I had a Da Vinci radical prostatectomy. I was in the hospital 2 days. The total cost for thprocedurere was $36,000 and change. Insurance paid around $10,000 and I was on the hook for $300. which is my hospital co-pay for two days stay. Being as how I am on a Enhanced Med Advantage Plus RX insurance plan, I imagine billing is something of a nightmare. And yes, my doctors wait to be paid often as long as three months.

Back in the "old" days, my mom had a hysterectomy. My parents paid the hospital and the doctor off over the course of a year so as to not have to borrow money to pay for medical care.

In those days we had neighbors who had very little money and no medical insurance despite the father being a working film editor for the studios. One day their youngest daughter caught fire while her brother tried to start the barbecue with a can of gasoline. The screams were unbelievable. Anyway, the father took his burnt to a crisp daughter to several hospital emergency rooms all of which refused to admit her before finally driving her several miles to what I imagine was L.A. General hospital. A week later she died.


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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #146 on: October 29, 2012, 07:21:20 PM »
Prime,

I agree that insurance is important, but the loopholes that physicians and patient's must play to get adequate care are amazing. Every test that is above and beyond the bare minimum requires a pre-authorization. If some schmoe in accounting who may not even be a physician deems it unnecessary, it is a bitch to get overturned. Regardless, the future of medicine is concerning considering the new healthcare bill. Do you really want a panel of physicians that are unelected determining what treatment you deserve. Cookbook medicine is not optimal.

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« Reply #147 on: October 29, 2012, 07:26:01 PM »
Prime,

I agree that insurance is important, but the loopholes that physicians and patient's must play to get adequate care are amazing. Every test that is above and beyond the bare minimum requires a pre-authorization. If some schmoe in accounting who may not even be a physician deems it unnecessary, it is a bitch to get overturned. Regardless, the future of medicine is concerning considering the new healthcare bill. Do you really want a panel of physicians that are unelected determining what treatment you deserve. Cookbook medicine is not optimal.

Totally.  I am sick and tired of companies like Optum Health doing that to me.  Patient needs the care and they limit things

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #148 on: October 29, 2012, 07:56:02 PM »
^best thing you can do is get a good PPO insurance, hopefully the care stays the same or gets better I've been happy with my PPO. HMO is a nightmare they try not to pay for anything...

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Re: Why don't people believe I am a medical doctor?
« Reply #149 on: October 29, 2012, 09:58:27 PM »
Prime,

I agree that insurance is important, but the loopholes that physicians and patient's must play to get adequate care are amazing. Every test that is above and beyond the bare minimum requires a pre-authorization. If some schmoe in accounting who may not even be a physician deems it unnecessary, it is a bitch to get overturned. Regardless, the future of medicine is concerning considering the new healthcare bill. Do you really want a panel of physicians that are unelected determining what treatment you deserve. Cookbook medicine is not optimal.

So tell what is the difference between a for profit insurance company  non-medical employee deciding whether I get care or not and a panel of physicians determining what treatment I need? Given those two choices, I'd go with the panel of physicians.

My wife and I are fortunate to have "Cadillac" medical insurance coverage for which we pay a hefty premium. If we see a specialist, no pre-authorization is required. Any lab work or test ordered by our physician is 100% covered.