Taking Tribulus Terrestris is not natural(Included as prohormone)?

[kyomu]

Are your nipples sensitive Kyomu? Perhaps have Paco squeeze them to see? 

Also, squeezing the testicles will increase testosterone (serious).

NO WAY.

[ManBearPig...]

like tdongz said, just because something isn't banned and you take it, it doesn't mean you're still "natural".

a true natural would just eat and train.

hell, as van bilderass said, i think taking test is natural.  possibly gh even, but i have no experience with it or any knowledge to share.

[kyomu]

like tdongz said, just because something isn't banned and you take it, it doesn't mean you're still "natural".

a true natural would just eat and train.

hell, as van bilderass said, i think taking test is natural.  possibly gh even, but i have no experience with it or any knowledge to share.

Agreed.
But, the goal is beating juicers without using banned substances.

[Mr.1derful]

Agreed.
But, the goal is beating juicers without using banned substances.

Good luck with that.

[kyomu]

Good luck with that.

Thanx.

[Mr.1derful]

Thanx.

From my own experience, when I've taken high dose fadogia supplements in conjunction with tyrosine, or anything that can increase norepinephrine (much bigger effect when taken with buproprion), I noted an appreciable loss of body fat.  There aren't too many fadogia supplements on the market though.  I also noted a more aggressive demeanor as well.  Not that that's bad, as I liked it, frankly.

[nycbull]

More evidence that TT won't work, and to make interpretation less complicated, some graphs based on 7 groups of rats who got 11, 42 and 110 mg/kg(2.2 lbs) TT, 5 mg/kg DHEA, 0.25 mg/kg of Testosterone Propionate, 0,1 mg/kg ethinylestradiol or were a controll group for 28 days (source is in Dutch, sorry).




Conclusion of researchers:
Tongkat Ali could be interesting.

animal experiments are bunk anyway. THis means nothing in humans.

[INSOMNIA]

As I said, I am not interested in muscle gain at all.
I am interested in making my muscle looking hard.

whats your diet look like?

[uberman09]

No. GH creats hardness.

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[uberman09]

it's only natural if you want it to be

nice one haha.

[DroppingPlates]

animal experiments are bunk anyway. THis means nothing in humans.

Not for 100%, but certainly much more than 50%. Rats have bones, muscles, organs, etc too which, in general terms, work the same as humans.

[Steve Namat]

MMmm Thanx for info.
Do you have any recommendation of those test boosters?
Name, company..etc.

I think maybe the best ones are the PCT (Anabolic Xtreme), the Axis-HT (BSN) and the Vitrix (Nutrex)...

[Van_Bilderass]

I think maybe the best ones are the PCT (Anabolic Xtreme), the Axis-HT (BSN) and the Vitrix (Nutrex)...

All the ones that work have illegal ingredients (illegal as far as in passing a doping test) in them. Ingredients like ATD or bromoandrostenedione or 6-OXO.

[kyomu]

whats your diet look like?

Mostly, Chicken breast, Tuna(Flesh),Potatos.Onion.
I dont eat egg white.
Occasionaly add rice.
Still I eat cheat meal twice a week.
I will stop it from next week.

[kyomu]

I think maybe the best ones are the PCT (Anabolic Xtreme), the Axis-HT (BSN) and the Vitrix (Nutrex)...

Thanx for Info. Steve.

[kyomu]

All the ones that work have illegal ingredients (illegal as far as in passing a doping test) in them. Ingredients like ATD or bromoandrostenedione or 6-OXO.

Wew!!!!

Dangerous!!!!

[Method101]

If you take either of these you are NOT natural. You may aswell use the real shit.
Naturals can get in good hard condition Kyomu, you never dieted hard enough. You have less muscle than you think under there

[bigmc]

If you take either of these you are NOT natural. You may aswell use the real shit.
Naturals can get in good hard condition Kyomu, you never dieted hard enough. You have less muscle than you think under there

he is better than you will ever be

you will take gear as soon as you can get it

classic case of no contacts due to twink status

no money due to living with mommy


so hate on everything 

[kyomu]

If you take either of these you are NOT natural. You may aswell use the real shit.
Naturals can get in good hard condition Kyomu, you never dieted hard enough. You have less muscle than you think under there

Hey newbie. I will teach you a thing.
Dryness and hardness are two different thing.Dont judge with the pic of me of 1st page of this thread.
Thats way far from my contest condition.

I have huge confidence to get dry to the bone this time unlike last time.
But, Hardness is normaly created by the super muscle fullness caused by drugs.
And I dont have that much confidence about it.
Its difficult to get super dry and full at the same time.
You can be small and hard. But big and hard is difficult.


Here is the last times pic.

[Gino30]

Powerzone make the strongest Tribulus product in the world

http://www.powerzonenutrition.net/testresults.htm

These guys go hard on the protodioscin - this is the key....syntex, asn...its all shit in comparison

yes, I believe Trib works, but at least take the stuff that isnt snakeoil rubbish

[wavelength]

all OTC supplements are 100% complete and utter bullshit except the roids that sometimes slip the system

[Van_Bilderass]

all OTC supplements are 100% complete and utter bullshit except the roids that sometimes slip the system

I just started taking methylcobalamin and I'll be damned if it doesn't increase appetite like crazy. Some supplements are useful.

[Mr.1derful]

all OTC supplements are 100% complete and utter bullshit except the roids that sometimes slip the system

That's a ridiculous statement.  Indeed, there are many misleading products that fail to deliver substantive results; however, there are a variety of products that have benefit.  The problem is with the ideology of people like yourself that see fit to compare OTC products with steroids as a means of gauging benefit.  Of course supplements will not compare to actual drugs, but their role is only to supplement a training and nutritional program, as the name implies.  No different than people that bash the use of any type of protein powder.  For someone that is on the go, such products can be very useful.  They won't turn one into Mr. Olympia, but that is not the intent.

[wavelength]

I'm always only talking about benefits for body composition. Maybe creatine is an exception since it seems to have a small benefit. Of course supplements which are really just food replacements are also excluded, since they are just that: food.

[Determinator]

Would prolonged us of Tribulus cause you to go more bald, if you are already doing so (genetically)?