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Title: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 21, 2013, 02:57:20 AM
Last year, doctors at Sherbrooke University Hospital in Quebec found Bt-toxin in the blood of:

    93 percent of pregnant women tested
    80 percent of umbilical blood in their babies, and
    67 percent of non-pregnant women

The study authors speculate that the Bt-toxin was likely consumed in the normal diet of the Canadian middle class—which makes sense when you consider that genetically engineered corn is present in the vast majority of all processed foods and drinks in the form of high fructose corn syrup. They also suggest that the toxin may have come from eating meat from animals fed Bt corn, which most livestock raised in confined animal feeding operations (CAFO, or so-called "factory farms") are.

These shocking results raise the frightening possibility that eating Bt corn might actually turn your intestinal flora into a sort of "living pesticide factory"… essentially manufacturing Bt-toxin from within your digestive system on a continuing basis.



BT-TOXIN WHAT IS IT???

Monsanto's genetically modified "Bt corn" has been equipped with a gene from soil bacteria called Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis), which produces the Bt-toxin. It's a pesticide that breaks open the stomach of certain insects and kills them.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 21, 2013, 02:58:45 AM
If this hypothesis is correct, is it then also possible that the Bt-toxin might damage the integrity of your digestive tract in the same way it damages insects? Remember, the toxin actually ruptures the stomach of insects, causing them to die. The biotech industry has insisted that the Bt-toxin doesn't bind or interact with the intestinal walls of mammals (which would include humans). But again, there are peer-reviewed published research showing that Bt-toxin does bind with mouse small intestines and with intestinal tissue from rhesus monkeys.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: WOOO on November 21, 2013, 03:37:03 AM
corn
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 21, 2013, 03:52:08 AM
corn
 ::) ::)
hey man give just a little bit of thought in your life. sounds like you are trying to avoid depression by keeping things too simplistic
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: WOOO on November 21, 2013, 03:53:42 AM
hey man give just a little bit of thought in your life. sounds like you are trying to avoid depression by keeping things too simplistic


i think for a living

i'm raw, no rubber, no pullout on getbig
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 21, 2013, 03:59:21 AM
Wow a well thought-out thread w peer-reviewed evidence..... I'm pleasantly surprised
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 21, 2013, 04:29:38 AM
I worked in a kindergarten based on Rudolf Steiner's teachings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy)

A female employe in her 30s died from stomach cancer. She ate only organic food, mostly products from their own brand "Helios". Later on I learned of anecdotical stories about many of these people dying young from stomach cancer. Why?

One explanation is the great amount of toxins from mould found is much organic food, such as grains, cereals and flour. Lack of control with mould is very bad indeed.

You health nutcases believe nature is only good and kind. Nature is also a killer, with natural toxins from plants and mould potentially being extremely dangerous.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 05:51:58 AM
How can we tell if we are eating GMO corn if we dont grow it ourselves Johnny? Obama is not going to tell us.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 21, 2013, 06:06:09 AM
I saw this in the paper.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/20/harvard-long-life-nuts/3654717/
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 22, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
How can we tell if we are eating GMO corn if we dont grow it ourselves Johnny? Obama is not going to tell us.
the see of corn generates bt toxin itself. its genetically modified that way. all of the food we eat generates this toxing that exploded bugs stomachs but we eat it
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 22, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
You won't be seeing anything labeled GMO anytime soon for the same old reason  ---> $$$$$$$$$$$

Not surprisingly, the biotech industry has spent over half a billion dollars on G.M.O. lobbyists in the last decade, and Michael Taylor, the F.D.A. deputy commissioner for foods, was once vice president for public policy at Monsanto.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/why-arent-g-m-o-foods-labeled/?_r=0 (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/why-arent-g-m-o-foods-labeled/?_r=0)
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Oly15 on November 23, 2013, 01:44:09 AM
You won't be seeing anything labeled GMO anytime soon for the same old reason  ---> $$$$$$$$$$$

Not surprisingly, the biotech industry has spent over half a billion dollars on G.M.O. lobbyists in the last decade, and Michael Taylor, the F.D.A. deputy commissioner for foods, was once vice president for public policy at Monsanto.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/why-arent-g-m-o-foods-labeled/?_r=0 (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/why-arent-g-m-o-foods-labeled/?_r=0)

Good post.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 23, 2013, 02:07:59 AM
Good post.
thanks im hoping enough weak minded getbiggers will read this shit and spread the message like aids because this shit is no joke
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Tito24 on November 23, 2013, 02:45:19 AM
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Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 23, 2013, 05:39:35 AM
A meat head.

Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 23, 2013, 05:59:37 AM
Buddy, this is old news to many of us.  But good too see the lower IQ'd are finally catching up.

Last year, doctors at Sherbrooke University Hospital in Quebec found Bt-toxin in the blood of:

    93 percent of pregnant women tested
    80 percent of umbilical blood in their babies, and
    67 percent of non-pregnant women

The study authors speculate that the Bt-toxin was likely consumed in the normal diet of the Canadian middle class—which makes sense when you consider that genetically engineered corn is present in the vast majority of all processed foods and drinks in the form of high fructose corn syrup. They also suggest that the toxin may have come from eating meat from animals fed Bt corn, which most livestock raised in confined animal feeding operations (CAFO, or so-called "factory farms") are.

These shocking results raise the frightening possibility that eating Bt corn might actually turn your intestinal flora into a sort of "living pesticide factory"… essentially manufacturing Bt-toxin from within your digestive system on a continuing basis.



BT-TOXIN WHAT IS IT???

Monsanto's genetically modified "Bt corn" has been equipped with a gene from soil bacteria called Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis), which produces the Bt-toxin. It's a pesticide that breaks open the stomach of certain insects and kills them.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 23, 2013, 10:44:29 AM
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Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 23, 2013, 12:19:30 PM
I worked in a kindergarten based on Rudolf Steiner's teachings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy)

A female employe in her 30s died from stomach cancer. She ate only organic food, mostly products from their own brand "Helios". Later on I learned of anecdotical stories about many of these people dying young from stomach cancer. Why?

One explanation is the great amount of toxins from mould found is much organic food, such as grains, cereals and flour. Lack of control with mould is very bad indeed.

You health nutcases believe nature is only good and kind. Nature is also a killer, with natural toxins from plants and mould potentially being extremely dangerous.

NN

Good post...I'd also guess that the supplement industry will end up killing many millions of people and no doubt most likely already have...
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Rami on November 23, 2013, 01:02:37 PM
I get pretty mad at these companies, not giving a fuck. I fight this for everyones sake. I sure don't let them feed that to me, and I just can't understand why most people doesn't seem able to stand up to this garbage, but just fall victims to it more or less willingly. That type of ignorance make me pretty mad too.

People you're not apes in a zoo! You actually get to chose what to eat your self, and then you chose this cheap crud?
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 23, 2013, 01:17:49 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 23, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 23, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
I get pretty mad at these companies, not giving a fuck. I fight this for everyones sake. I sure don't let them feed that to me, and I just can't understand why most people doesn't seem able to stand up to this garbage, but just fall victims to it more or less willingly. That type of ignorance make me pretty mad too.

People you're not apes in a zoo! You actually get to chose what to eat your self, and then you chose this cheap crud?

i used to be of the thought that it wasnt a big deal to buy non organic, now i plan on making a much better effort to buy organic because of this. even if the article was half true thats still enough truth to get me to go buy more organic

by the time people are like 60 this shit could really add up while the monsanto people will be long retired somewhere with girls with big tits
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Shockwave on November 23, 2013, 02:46:47 PM
Weve been buying anything non GMO if we can find it.

I was pissed when we voted down i522 here in wa... Evidently Monsanto and other biotech companies put in a half billion to make sure that 522 failed. They outspent the pro GMO labeling by something like 300%.

They literally bought the election.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Parker on November 23, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
I wonder if the tortillas and tacos that Chipotle uses are made from GMO ingredients.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 23, 2013, 03:08:31 PM
non gmo crops can work even though the yeilds would be less., all one needs is more people in the feild picking the crops, i would thourougly enjoy that kinda job

we dont need mass produced gmo crops

we just need some extra workers harvesting the non gmo crops

like always, they need to push the agenda that I am bringing to the table
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 23, 2013, 03:24:21 PM
non gmo crops can work even though the yeilds would be less., all one needs is more people in the feild picking the crops, i would thourougly enjoy that kinda job

we dont need mass produced gmo crops

we just need some extra workers harvesting the non gmo crops

like always, they need to push the agenda that I am bringing to the table
Just grow some corn down on your place neggul and send me some.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 23, 2013, 03:36:00 PM
Cornhole
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 23, 2013, 03:57:36 PM
Hawaii is already taking action

Hawaii Council Passes Bill to Ban GMO Cultivation

http://www.triplepundit.com/2013/11/hawaii-city-council-passes-bill-ban-gmo-cultivation/ (http://www.triplepundit.com/2013/11/hawaii-city-council-passes-bill-ban-gmo-cultivation/)
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The True Adonis on November 23, 2013, 04:51:24 PM
I seek GMO products out as they are the absolute highest quality ingredients to work with.  I will go to extra lengths to make sure it is in fact a GMO.  I bet I will outlive all of you.  :D
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 23, 2013, 05:12:06 PM
I seek GMO products out as they are the absolute highest quality ingredients to work with.  I will go to extra lengths to make sure it is in fact a GMO.  I bet I will outlive all of you.  :D
;D
i have some nggers that wont leave my basement all they do is drink koolaid and are jacked as fuck doing pushups all day . Mr Nobody keeps stopping by giving them Gmo canned corn and 35 cents a day because he feels bad for them
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Hulkotron on November 23, 2013, 05:24:01 PM
This is a case where you should not eat the corn.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on November 23, 2013, 07:41:29 PM
 Well!! I have better news for you.

 http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/11/end-abx/

 This week, health authorities in New Zealand announced that the tightly quarantined island nation — the only place I’ve ever been where you get x-rayed on the way into the country as well as leaving it — has experienced its first case, and first death, from  a strain of totally drug-resistant bacteria. From the New Zealand Herald:

    In January, while he was teaching English in Vietnam, (Brian) Pool suffered a brain hemorrhage and was operated on in a Vietnamese hospital.

    He was flown to Wellington Hospital where tests found he was carrying the strain of bacterium known as KPC-Oxa 48 – an organism that rejects every kind of antibiotic.

    Wellington Hospital clinical microbiologist Mark Jones (said): “Nothing would touch it. Absolutely nothing. It’s the first one that we’ve ever seen that is resistant to every single antibiotic known.”

Pool’s death is an appalling tragedy. But it is also a lesson, twice over: It illustrates that antibiotic resistance can spread anywhere, no matter the defenses we put up — and it demonstrates that we are on the verge of entering a new era in history. Jones, the doctor who treated Pool, says in the story linked above: “This man was in the post-antibiotic era.”

“Post-antibiotic era” is a phrase that gets tossed around a lot these days, most of the time without people stopping to consider what it might really mean. A year ago, I started wondering what life would be like, if we really didn’t have antibiotics any more. I was commissioned and edited by got research support from (editing to make clear that they didn’t give me a grant; they don’t do that) the fantastic Food and Environment Reporting Network, and today Medium publishes our 4,000-word report, “Imagining a Post-Antibiotics Future” — a view from the far side of the antibiotic miracle.

If we really lost antibiotics to advancing drug resistance — and trust me, we’re not far off — here’s what we would lose. Not just the ability to treat infectious disease; that’s obvious.

But also: The ability to treat cancer, and to transplant organs, because doing those successfully relies on suppressing the immune system and willingly making ourselves vulnerable to infection. Any treatment that relies on a permanent port into the bloodstream — for instance, kidney dialysis. Any major open-cavity surgery, on the heart, the lungs, the abdomen. Any surgery on a part of the body that already harbors a population of bacteria: the guts, the bladder, the genitals. Implantable devices: new hips, new knees, new heart valves. Cosmetic plastic surgery. Liposuction. Tattoos.

We’d lose the ability to treat people after traumatic accidents, as major as crashing your car and as minor as your kid falling out of a tree. We’d lose the safety of modern childbirth: Before the antibiotic era, 5 women died out of every 1,000 who gave birth. One out of every nine skin infections killed. Three out of every 10 people who got pneumonia died from it.

And we’d lose, as well, a good portion of our cheap modern food supply. Most of the meat we eat in the industrialized world is raised with the routine use of antibiotics, to fatten livestock and protect them from the conditions in which the animals are raised. Without the drugs that keep livestock healthy in concentrated agriculture, we’d lose the ability to raise them that way. Either animals would sicken, or farmers would have to change their raising practices, spending more money when their margins are thin. Either way, meat — and fish and seafood, also raised with abundant antibiotics in the fish farms of Asia — would become much more expensive.

And it wouldn’t be just meat. Antibiotics are used in plant agriculture as well, especially on fruit. Right now, a drug-resistant version of the bacterial disease fire blight is attacking American apple crops. There’s currently one drug left to fight it. And when major crops are lost, the local farm economy goes too.

Joe McKenna, around 1933. (c. McKenna family)

If you’ve been reading here a while, you’ll know that I write about antibiotic resistance, in human medicine and in agriculture, all the time (and wrote a book about it). But something personal propelled me into this story. By random chance, I received a copy of the obit of my great-uncle, my grandfather’s younger brother Joe.

I’d heard about Joe as I was growing up, because everyone said my father resembled him. All I knew was that he was good-looking, and died young, and there was something about his death that was tragic. He was a New York City fireman, and I always assumed he’d died in a fire. I was wrong. He died of an infection, 5 years before penicillin came on the scene.

Joe’s death was protracted, and terrible, and it changed my family forever. Seventy-five years later, we would like to think that deaths like his are impossible. But they aren’t; as the story from New Zealand shows, they are happening again. We have a few chances left to turn back the tide of resistance — but only a few, and not much room for mistakes.  I hope we take them.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 23, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
LOL you are such a pretentious pseudo intellectual.  So ONE person died and you are using it as your example?

"Worked in a kindergarten" - lol where I come from you need ZERO qualifications to do that.  Does this tell me you have no education?

I worked in a kindergarten based on Rudolf Steiner's teachings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthroposophy)

A female employe in her 30s died from stomach cancer. She ate only organic food, mostly products from their own brand "Helios". Later on I learned of anecdotical stories about many of these people dying young from stomach cancer. Why?

One explanation is the great amount of toxins from mould found is much organic food, such as grains, cereals and flour. Lack of control with mould is very bad indeed.

You health nutcases believe nature is only good and kind. Nature is also a killer, with natural toxins from plants and mould potentially being extremely dangerous.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 23, 2013, 07:49:54 PM
I seek GMO products out as they are the absolute highest quality ingredients to work with.  I will go to extra lengths to make sure it is in fact a GMO.  I bet I will outlive all of you.  :D

And I bet you will out cock suck us all too.

Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 23, 2013, 07:51:11 PM
The process described in the OP can be simplified to this:

Your stomach becomes a pesticide producing factory.  Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The True Adonis on November 23, 2013, 07:54:57 PM
The process described in the OP can be simplified to this:

Your stomach becomes a pesticide producing factory.  Good luck with that.
All I have to do is breathe on plants and bugs die.  Its my special Super Power.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Mr Nobody on November 23, 2013, 11:49:35 PM
;D
i have some nggers that wont leave my basement all they do is drink koolaid and are jacked as fuck doing pushups all day . Mr Nobody keeps stopping by giving them Gmo canned corn and 35 cents a day because he feels bad for them
:D Yea they keep asking me for 5 cents more, however I did fix their toliet flapper because the water kept running.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 24, 2013, 02:03:23 PM
just bought a shitload of all kinds of odd grains cereal

millet
amaranth
buckwheat
quinoa



i went all out in support organic today bought 130 bucks worth of organic shit. got some purple sweet potatoes too
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 24, 2013, 02:05:06 PM
no one benefits buying gmo products except monsato and the government

even if you like to be a dick its still smarter to buy only organic, your not doing yourself any favors by buying GMO
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Shockwave on November 24, 2013, 02:59:34 PM
no one benefits buying gmo products except monsato and the government

even if you like to be a dick its still smarter to buy only organic, your not doing yourself any favors by buying GMO
im leery of organic because there is no standard set as to what constitutes organic... however if I can find something non GMO ill buy it.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The True Adonis on November 24, 2013, 03:20:32 PM
no one benefits buying gmo products except monsato and the government

even if you like to be a dick its still smarter to buy only organic, your not doing yourself any favors by buying GMO
I benefit.  I have much more energy eating strictly GMO foods.  Give it a try and you will see.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 24, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
I benefit.  I have much more energy eating strictly GMO foods.  Give it a try and you will see.
if trolling great

stop dicking around adonis we want you to show off your entertainment value with a youtube video or something dont be a pussy
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 24, 2013, 03:53:51 PM
im leery of organic because there is no standard set as to what constitutes organic... however if I can find something non GMO ill buy it.
there is a standard, it means no genetic engineering

look up paul giem on youtube about genetic engineering

its illegal to sell something organic if its been genetically engineerd
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Princess L on November 24, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
Genetically Modified Foods, Pt. 1

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/genetically-modified-foods-pt-1
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Princess L on November 24, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
(http://civileats.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/food_inc_5x7_v3-680x476.jpg)
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liquid_c on November 24, 2013, 07:41:04 PM
Unless you are a type of caterpillar with an alkaline digestive system, the BT protein won't harm you.  In fact it is an approved organic pesticide and sprayed by organic farmers on their produce.  Yes, there are pesticides approved that organic farmers are allowed to use and the BT protein is one of them. 
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liquid_c on November 24, 2013, 07:41:43 PM
Genetically Modified Foods, Pt. 1

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/genetically-modified-foods-pt-1


Dr. Oz does what he hast to for ratings.  He has psychics on his show, that should tell you enough right there. 
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Princess L on November 24, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Dr. Oz does what he hast to for ratings.  He has psychics on his show, that should tell you enough right there. 

Kill the messenger?  Or is the message false?
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: galeniko on November 24, 2013, 08:14:10 PM
pl would eat shit if it tasted good.

this little bit toxin is of no concern, we have livers and kidneys to take care from that.

what ppl eat in general is much worse.

the average skinnyfatsos diet, or dj181 diet,same thing.terrible.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The Ugly on November 24, 2013, 08:18:56 PM
GMO is delicious.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Shockwave on November 24, 2013, 08:24:57 PM
there is a standard, it means no genetic engineering

look up paul giem on youtube about genetic engineering

its illegal to sell something organic if its been genetically engineerd
Really? Last I had heard the FDA had not really designated what constitutes "organic".

If it includes non Genetic engineered foods... why were they trying to get GMO foods labeled in stores? If organic basically means non GMO, then it should have been a non issue, right? Why would the biotech companies waste so much money fighting i522?

I still think they should have to label the food... we have a right to know what were putting in out body... I still eat GMO and I know there is barely any way to get around it, but I'd prefer to at least know WHAT foods I'm eating are GMO.

If "organic" foods are really FDA mandated to be non-GMO, then at least it's a step in the right direction. I don't necessarily think GMO should be banned, but we should definitely know whats GMO and what were putting in our bodies. People should have the choice without having to spend hours trying to figure out if the food theyre buying is genetically engineered or not.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 01:49:56 AM
LOL you are such a pretentious pseudo intellectual.  So ONE person died and you are using it as your example?

"Worked in a kindergarten" - lol where I come from you need ZERO qualifications to do that.  Does this tell me you have no education?


As I said, it was an anecdote, told just as an interesting story. It may not hold as an example of a general phenomenon. But problems with mold in organic grains have been very real, at least with the "Helios" products in Norway, and these molds produce carcinogenic toxins.

I worked in a kindergarten for a year when I was 20. It was interesting and frustrating to work among these weird, religious Rudolf Steiner people.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 01:54:36 AM
All I have to do is breathe on plants and bugs die.  Its my special Super Power.

What's not to like...

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 25, 2013, 02:06:02 AM
Only on getbig can a dumb drug addict like you get away with posing as an intellectual.

pl would eat shit if it tasted good.

this little bit toxin is of no concern, we have livers and kidneys to take care from that.

what ppl eat in general is much worse.

the average skinnyfatsos diet, or dj181 diet,same thing.terrible.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 02:21:55 AM
Only on getbig can a dumb drug addict like you get away with posing as an intellectual.


Said the feeble minded conspiracy lunatic.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 25, 2013, 03:00:25 AM
Said the feeble minded conspiracy lunatic.

NN

noodle dick - you'd better go satisfy your muslim boyfriend before he leaves you for your 12 year old sister
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The True Adonis on November 25, 2013, 03:21:32 AM
What's not to like...

NN
I`m on your side my friend.  These Anti-GMO people are complete lunatics.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: theredeemer on November 25, 2013, 03:48:44 AM
noodle dick - you'd better go satisfy your muslim boyfriend before he leaves you for your 12 year old sister

lol NordickNoodle
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 25, 2013, 04:05:29 AM
lol NordickNoodle

NodickNordic
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 04:19:48 AM
I`m on your side my friend.  These Anti-GMO people are complete lunatics.

Thanks- fortunately they do a great job outing themselves as suffering from mild retardation combined with schizotypical personality disorder.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 04:22:35 AM
NodickNordic...
...noodle dick - you'd better go satisfy your muslim boyfriend before he leaves you for your 12 year old sister

In psychology there is something called projective tests. Your obsession with muslims, dicks and 12 year old sisters probably tells us something about your inner life- (not that your fantasies about these topics should be considered immoral in any way- you should not be ashamed, but stay away from your 12 year old sister in real life, please)

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 25, 2013, 04:33:37 AM
muslims, dicks and 12 year old sisters

- (not that your fantasies about these topics should be considered immoral in any way
NN

Outed gay pedo
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 04:40:43 AM
Outed gay pedo

Sorry, I did not mean to out you as a pedo, but you did a good job yourself. The important thing is that you should not act on your urges towards your 12 year old sister. Additionally, you should seek professional help!

NN

Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 25, 2013, 04:43:05 AM
Its not only about genetically modified food , it's about the government doing what the fvck they want with your food and not letting you know about it and giving you a choice.If Monsanto didn't have deep pockets it would be labeled .
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 25, 2013, 04:59:12 AM
Really? Last I had heard the FDA had not really designated what constitutes "organic".

If it includes non Genetic engineered foods... why were they trying to get GMO foods labeled in stores? If organic basically means non GMO, then it should have been a non issue, right? Why would the biotech companies waste so much money fighting i522?

I still think they should have to label the food... we have a right to know what were putting in out body... I still eat GMO and I know there is barely any way to get around it, but I'd prefer to at least know WHAT foods I'm eating are GMO.

If "organic" foods are really FDA mandated to be non-GMO, then at least it's a step in the right direction. I don't necessarily think GMO should be banned, but we should definitely know whats GMO and what were putting in our bodies. People should have the choice without having to spend hours trying to figure out if the food theyre buying is genetically engineered or not.
there is 'grey area' for good reason

Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 05:04:00 AM
Its not only about genetically modified food , it's about the government doing what the fvck they want with your food and not letting you know about it and giving you a choice.If Monsanto didn't have deep pockets it would be labeled .

Is the american goverment a food producer or manipulating food? News to me.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: liberty on November 25, 2013, 05:10:40 AM
Ever hear the the FDA or the USDA?
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 05:12:50 AM
Ever hear the the FDA or the USDA?

Sure, but they are just a regulatory instance, right?

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 25, 2013, 02:34:47 PM
people at monsanto would be the least people id trust

they just want big bucks, high crop yeilds at whatever the cost. you would be a fool to buy drugs from a drug dealer that could spike it with anything, thats essentially what your doing

but in this case your fully aware and doing it anyways because you dont want to feel like a nerd who eats organic
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: NordicNerd on November 25, 2013, 11:54:47 PM
people at monsanto would be the least people id trust

they just want big bucks, high crop yeilds at whatever the cost. you would be a fool to buy drugs from a drug dealer that could spike it with anything, thats essentially what your doing

but in this case your fully aware and doing it anyways because you dont want to feel like a nerd who eats organic

I'd eat organic for the sake of animal welfare, health and sustainability/ environmental issues.

However, much of organic farming would result in hunger and maybe even more pollution. Severly reduced crop yields is a real problem. Another problem is toxins from mold etc. Regarding GMO- I have not seen convincing evidence that it constitute a health risk. The potential for good is however very convincing.

NN
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on November 29, 2013, 12:48:29 AM
Is the american goverment a food producer or manipulating food? News to me.

NN

Clearly because you are ignorant.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Gonuclear on November 29, 2013, 01:59:32 AM
Last year, doctors at Sherbrooke University Hospital in Quebec found Bt-toxin in the blood of:

    93 percent of pregnant women tested
    80 percent of umbilical blood in their babies, and
    67 percent of non-pregnant women

The study authors speculate that the Bt-toxin was likely consumed in the normal diet of the Canadian middle class—which makes sense when you consider that genetically engineered corn is present in the vast majority of all processed foods and drinks in the form of high fructose corn syrup. They also suggest that the toxin may have come from eating meat from animals fed Bt corn, which most livestock raised in confined animal feeding operations (CAFO, or so-called "factory farms") are.

These shocking results raise the frightening possibility that eating Bt corn might actually turn your intestinal flora into a sort of "living pesticide factory"… essentially manufacturing Bt-toxin from within your digestive system on a continuing basis.



BT-TOXIN WHAT IS IT???

Monsanto's genetically modified "Bt corn" has been equipped with a gene from soil bacteria called Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis), which produces the Bt-toxin. It's a pesticide that breaks open the stomach of certain insects and kills them.

The study you cite has been criticized for methodological mistakes.  But let's assume its premise is true - that bt toxin shows up in those who eat Monsanto's GM strain.

Guess what, it is already known that bt toxin ends up in people because it has been used as a pesticide since the 1920's.  What's more, it has always been approved for use on organic crops!

The real problem is that the new strain may so thoroughly expose bt toxin to insect populations, that new bt toxin-resistant pests may evolve.

That's the real worry, Amigo.

BTW, I'm sure, being a peanut butter fan and nutrition wiz, that you have heard of aflatoxin, right?  The naturally occurring lethal poison that exists in trace amounts in peanut butter? 

Do you still eat peanut butter?  Because there is no debate on how toxic aflatoxin is. 
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Vince B on November 29, 2013, 02:49:54 AM
i used to be of the thought that it wasnt a big deal to buy non organic, now i plan on making a much better effort to buy organic because of this. even if the article was half true thats still enough truth to get me to go buy more organic

by the time people are like 60 this shit could really add up while the monsanto people will be long retired somewhere with girls with big tits

Written by a pseudo-scientific mind. You wouldn't know a truth from a falsehood. Join your mate Wiggs as intellectual worries. You don't have the vocabulary to talk about anything to do with science.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Gonuclear on November 30, 2013, 12:23:54 AM
Written by a pseudo-scientific mind. You wouldn't know a truth from a falsehood. Join your mate Wiggs as intellectual worries. You don't have the vocabulary to talk about anything to do with science.

 :D
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 30, 2013, 12:30:56 AM
Written by a pseudo-scientific mind. You wouldn't know a truth from a falsehood. Join your mate Wiggs as intellectual worries. You don't have the vocabulary to talk about anything to do with science.

Vincent, we can feel the sexual tension.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on November 30, 2013, 02:48:46 AM
Written by a pseudo-scientific mind. You wouldn't know a truth from a falsehood. Join your mate Wiggs as intellectual worries. You don't have the vocabulary to talk about anything to do with science.
Its good to talk about this sort of subject instead of worrying about the small stuff like blue stars and blue fonts clown
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Gonuclear on November 30, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
Its good to talk about this sort of subject instead of worrying about the small stuff like blue stars and blue fonts clown

Vince kinda nailed it though, right Falcon?  On the issues, that is.  You win of course on bluster and stupidity.  On that last one, you don't even have to try hard.  You got it covered, Ace.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The Scott on November 30, 2013, 12:28:20 PM
Last year, doctors at Sherbrooke University Hospital in Quebec found Bt-toxin in the blood of:

    93 percent of pregnant women tested
    80 percent of umbilical blood in their babies, and
    67 percent of non-pregnant women

The study authors speculate that the Bt-toxin was likely consumed in the normal diet of the Canadian middle class—which makes sense when you consider that genetically engineered corn is present in the vast majority of all processed foods and drinks in the form of high fructose corn syrup. They also suggest that the toxin may have come from eating meat from animals fed Bt corn, which most livestock raised in confined animal feeding operations (CAFO, or so-called "factory farms") are.

These shocking results raise the frightening possibility that eating Bt corn might actually turn your intestinal flora into a sort of "living pesticide factory"… essentially manufacturing Bt-toxin from within your digestive system on a continuing basis.



BT-TOXIN WHAT IS IT???

Monsanto's genetically modified "Bt corn" has been equipped with a gene from soil bacteria called Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis), which produces the Bt-toxin. It's a pesticide that breaks open the stomach of certain insects and kills them.

Given what little I've read of your thoughts on a variety of rather odd sounding dietary topics, just what do you eat on a daily basis and why?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: CT_Muscle on February 07, 2014, 09:31:58 AM
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2015, 06:11:23 PM
Eat corn
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: agenda21nwo on January 29, 2015, 11:07:27 PM
Last year, doctors at Sherbrooke University Hospital in Quebec found Bt-toxin in the blood of:

    93 percent of pregnant women tested
    80 percent of umbilical blood in their babies, and
    67 percent of non-pregnant women

The study authors speculate that the Bt-toxin was likely consumed in the normal diet of the Canadian middle class—which makes sense when you consider that genetically engineered corn is present in the vast majority of all processed foods and drinks in the form of high fructose corn syrup. They also suggest that the toxin may have come from eating meat from animals fed Bt corn, which most livestock raised in confined animal feeding operations (CAFO, or so-called "factory farms") are.

These shocking results raise the frightening possibility that eating Bt corn might actually turn your intestinal flora into a sort of "living pesticide factory"… essentially manufacturing Bt-toxin from within your digestive system on a continuing basis.



BT-TOXIN WHAT IS IT???

Monsanto's genetically modified "Bt corn" has been equipped with a gene from soil bacteria called Bt (Bacillus thuringiensis), which produces the Bt-toxin. It's a pesticide that breaks open the stomach of certain insects and kills them.

OFF COURSE.  Common sense for some.
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: The Ugly on January 30, 2015, 02:04:49 AM
OFF COURSE.  Common sense for some.

?
Title: Re: Bt toxin found in human blood of those who eat GMO corn
Post by: FermiDirac on January 30, 2015, 02:14:54 AM
Death is out biggest fear, and electricity our final frontier.
In Europe it is much more common to buy locally grown crops, which stimulates the local economy rather than the big pharma's and their "food" company subsidiaries.