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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #750 on: September 29, 2016, 01:31:13 PM »

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #752 on: September 29, 2016, 09:32:12 PM »
tonight, Trump loses this election.

hilary comes out doing handstands, medicated and laughing off conspiracies about her health.  She's vibrant, cracking jokes, and the media narrative tomorrow is "HIlary creams Donald".  Trump, for his part, talks about his junk size, bill's affairs, and has unrealistic answers on many military things.   The narrative is "this is when Hilary turned it around".  Remember, trump hasn't done anything he didn't have in July - only hilary has LOSt support since then.

i'm still betting she does what she does with the benghazi trial - come out vibrant and medicated - but who knows.



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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #753 on: September 29, 2016, 10:17:50 PM »
Bottom line is this and this a stone cold fact. If you think giving Killary a pass from what she has said, has done in her past and is still doing and you're making endless excuses for her,  you absolutely have NO moral integrity what so ever. Consider yourselves enemies of this country.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #754 on: September 30, 2016, 08:24:15 AM »
Maine and Minnesota are now "toss-up" according to RCP. That's crazy!
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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #755 on: September 30, 2016, 09:35:59 AM »
Clinton Sees Post-Debate Bounce In State Polls
Her strong debate performance may be paying off.
09/30/2016
Janie Velencia 
Associate Polling Editor, The Huffington Post

THE WASHINGTON POST VIA GETTY IMAGES

In the wake of the first presidential debate, polls show Hillary Clinton ahead of Donald Trump.

Voters may have taken note of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s strong debate performance on Monday.

She is ahead of rival Donald Trump in three key swing states ― Michigan, New Hampshire and Florida ― according to polls conducted after the debate.

Clinton has taken a 7-point lead against Trump in Michigan, with 42 percent of the vote to his 35 percent, according to a Detroit News/WDIV poll. In a two-way match-up that excludes third-party candidates, Clinton still maintains her 7-point advantage.

She’s ahead by the same margin in New Hampshire, taking 42 percent of the vote to Trump’s 35 percent, according to a WBUR poll.

And in Florida, Clinton leads Trump by 4 points, 46 percent to 42 percent, according to a Mason-Dixon poll.

National polls released earlier in the week also signal good news for Clinton. The first set of post-debate polls found Clinton holding a 3- to 5-point advantage over Trump.

According to the HuffPost Pollster average, which aggregates publicly available polls, Clinton is ahead of Trump in all three states: by 4 points in Michigan, 5 points in New Hampshire and 2 points in Florida. The HuffPost Pollster national chart has the race at 48 percent to 43 percent, with Clinton in the lead.

However, it’s still too early to say if Clinton’s post-debate bounce will last. A clearer picture should emerge as more polls are released in the coming days.

The Detroit News-WDIV poll surveyed 500 likely Michigan voters on Sept 27-28. WBUR surveyed 502 likely New Hampshire voters Sept. 27-29. Mason-Dixon surveyed 820 likely voters Sept. 27-29. All three polls were conducted using live interviewers. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-leading-swing-states-post-debate_us_57ee4d61e4b024a52d2e57a6?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #756 on: September 30, 2016, 09:37:40 AM »
New York Times Declares Ohio No Longer ‘Bellwether’ as Trump Pulls Ahead

by JOEL B. POLLAK
30 Sep 2016

The New York Times, the so-called “paper of record,” has declared that the all-important swing state of Ohio is no longer an important battleground in the presidential election — now that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is winning it.

Trump pulled ahead of Clinton in the Buckeye State in the RealClearPolitics poll average on Sep. 13, and has never looked back. The latest average, as of Sep. 24 — prior to the first presidential debate on Sep. 26 — has Trump ahead of Clinton by 2%.

Earlier in September, the Times was declaring Ohio “an essential swing state,” where Governor John Kasich threatened to destroy Trump’s presidential hopes by withholding his endorsement and denying Trump his turnout operation. The Times added: “No candidate since 1960 has made it to the White House without winning Ohio. And while Mrs. Clinton could afford to lose there given her advantage in other battlegrounds like Virginia and Colorado, Ohio is a must-win for Mr. Trump.”

Now that Trump is winning the “must-win,” the Times has revised its view of Ohio’s importance: “After decades as one of America’s most reliable political bellwethers, an inevitable presidential battleground that closely mirrored the mood and makeup of the country, Ohio is suddenly fading in importance this year,” writes Jonathan Martin, who notes that Clinton has basically conceded the state.

“Mr. Trump’s unyielding anti-trade campaign and Mrs. Clinton’s difficulty energizing Ohio’s young voters have made it a lesser focus for Democrats this year, even as it remains critical to Mr. Trump’s path to the White House,” he explains (emphasis added).

That bit of revisionist history is necessary to avoid drawing the alternative conclusion, which is that Trump’s success in the bellwether state of Ohio could portend success elsewhere as well.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2016/09/30/ohio-guy-bellwether-trump-pulls-ahead/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #757 on: September 30, 2016, 12:35:50 PM »
No they haven't.  If you actually click the link it shows when Clinton was ahead. 

Didn't do that. My comment was not meant to be taken a an absolute....more just an opinion. Truth is, I don't put that much stock in the polls. They are interesting in a general sense though. Do the polls and the media coverage match up? Well, not always. The media suggests that Trump sucked (or snorted) during Monday night's debate. I'm biased so I agree that he had a poor showing compared to Clinton. However, the polls indicate that his performance (good or bad) did little to change the polling results.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #758 on: September 30, 2016, 12:42:21 PM »
more bad news for 240..

Democrats have used huge "get out the vote" strategies in past elections. Look for this to happen soon as some states are already in the early voting process.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #759 on: September 30, 2016, 12:46:45 PM »
I dont think I can vote for anyone in this election.  Johnson gets stupider every day.  Hilary and Trump are the same thing. 

You must do what you feel is right. Unfortunately, your non-vote protest won't get noticed. One of the candidates will win the election....most likely it will be Trump or Clinton. Independents have a poor history when it comes to tallying the vote. It's good that they keep trying, but it a sure lose situation.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #760 on: October 01, 2016, 06:35:42 AM »
Democrats have used huge "get out the vote" strategies in past elections. Look for this to happen soon as some states are already in the early voting process.

Trump is surging ahead in the early voting in Florida.
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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #762 on: October 01, 2016, 08:34:28 AM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/doctor-links-low-t-to-men-who-vote-for-clinton-776496707663

fox radio has a commercial from a pro-trump T doctor.  it's hilarious.  starts like a real commercial.  "if you suffer from low energy, lack of stamina, low sex drive, desire to vote clinton... stop in for a free medical assessment"

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #763 on: October 01, 2016, 02:20:00 PM »
Hillary Clinton  4 - 11
Donald Trump  13 - 5
Joe Biden  66 - 1
Paul Ryan  100 - 1
Bernie Sanders  100 - 1
Tim Kaine  325 - 1
Gary Johnson  325 - 1
Jill Stein  500 - 1
John Kasich  500 - 1

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #764 on: October 01, 2016, 08:41:09 PM »
Trump is surging ahead in the early voting in Florida.

Where are you finding this? From what I've read, the vote difference is marginal with Clinton ahead.

The recent revelation that Trump's company may have violated the embargo against Cuba doesn't bode well for him in Florida. Time will tell.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #765 on: October 01, 2016, 08:51:09 PM »
Trump is surging ahead in the early voting in Florida.

Oct 24–Nov 6 is florida early voting.  and...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/early-voting-surge-benefits-hillary-clinton/

Early voting surge benefits Hillary Clinton

WASHINGTON -- More people are seeking or casting early ballots in the critical states of North Carolina and Florida than at this point in 2012, with Hillary Clinton the likely beneficiary, as early voting shows signs of surging nationwide.

Clinton may also benefit from an increase in ballot requests in Georgia, a traditionally Republican state where Democrats have made inroads. But Donald Trump is showing signs of strength in Iowa and parts of Maine, states won by Barack Obama in the last two presidential elections.

The latest snapshot of ballot data offers a glimpse into a key question: How much of a vote advantage can Clinton run up before Nov. 8, when more Republicans tend to vote?

There are two types of early voting: mailing in ballots and voting in-person before election day. Traditionally, Republicans have done better initially with early mail-in ballots, but Democrats surpass them once in-person voting begins.

While the ballot sample to date remains small, Clinton so far is hitting guideposts in several battleground states compared to 2008 and 2012.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #766 on: October 01, 2016, 10:40:31 PM »
Oct 24–Nov 6 is florida early voting.  and...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/early-voting-surge-benefits-hillary-clinton/

Early voting surge benefits Hillary Clinton

WASHINGTON -- More people are seeking or casting early ballots in the critical states of North Carolina and Florida than at this point in 2012, with Hillary Clinton the likely beneficiary, as early voting shows signs of surging nationwide.

Clinton may also benefit from an increase in ballot requests in Georgia, a traditionally Republican state where Democrats have made inroads. But Donald Trump is showing signs of strength in Iowa and parts of Maine, states won by Barack Obama in the last two presidential elections.

The latest snapshot of ballot data offers a glimpse into a key question: How much of a vote advantage can Clinton run up before Nov. 8, when more Republicans tend to vote?

There are two types of early voting: mailing in ballots and voting in-person before election day. Traditionally, Republicans have done better initially with early mail-in ballots, but Democrats surpass them once in-person voting begins.

While the ballot sample to date remains small, Clinton so far is hitting guideposts in several battleground states compared to 2008 and 2012.

If what I've read is correct, military folks lean Republican. Since most of the military is not stationed in their home state, they vote by absentee ballot (mail). Could these Republicans be voting for Hilary?

Most of the vote in Oregon is mail-in. Only those who forget to mail their ballots until it is too late vote in person on November 8th. The best way to avoid this is to vote as soon as your ballot arrives in the mail.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #767 on: October 01, 2016, 11:00:02 PM »
With military -
 Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 19 points
Romney won by 40 points.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #768 on: October 03, 2016, 10:04:16 AM »
He has definitely lost control of the media narrative.

Trump running out of time as controversies pile up
By Stephen Collinson, CNN
Mon October 3, 2016

With 36 days remaining before Election Day, the real estate mogul's campaign is consumed with the fallout from a New York Times story published over the weekend that found Trump reported a $916 million loss in 1995. That loss could mean Trump went 18 years without paying federal income taxes.

Those findings -- which Trump's campaign isn't disputing but haven't been independently confirmed by CNN -- would be daunting for any presidential candidate to overcome. But they're especially challenging for Trump, who is losing control of the campaign's narrative after a strong September in which he narrowed the race with Hillary Clinton.

In just the past week, Trump delivered an underwhelming debate performance, struggled to recover from it, engaged in a counterproductive feud with a Latina beauty queen, posted early morning Twitter tirades and spewed insinuations without any evidence about Clinton's marriage. The tax story -- which could undermine Trump's image as a successful businessman -- will dominate the next few days.

Time is dwindling for Trump to regain his grip on the campaign's message as Clinton supporters seize on the drama to reinforce their point that he isn't suitable for the presidency.

'Meltdown'

"The reality is that we are in day six of the meltdown," Clinton supporter Neera Tanden said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union." "He had a terrible debate performance. Everybody sees that. He sees the state polls moving towards Hillary. Eleven state polls were out this week. She's beating him in every single one. He can't take that. And so this is the latest meltdown."
 
Of course, the tax story might not emerge as the kind of October surprise-style impact that Democrats hope. It is possible that Trump truly is a Teflon candidate who is so appealing to voters that his actions don't really matter. The GOP nominee's closest surrogates launched a fierce defense of Trump Sunday, portraying him as a master of business who expertly used the tax code to his benefit -- and that of his investors.

In a spirited showdown with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani hailed Trump as a "genius."
"He knows how to operate the tax code for the benefit of the people he's serving," Giuliani said.

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie dismissed the idea that Trump had done anything wrong or that the report would hurt him.
"This is actually a very, very good story for Donald Trump," Christie said.

The impact of the story -- and the swirling controversies that have bubbled up over the past week -- will come into greater focus Monday when Trump returns to the campaign trail in the key swing states of Virginia and Colorado. He largely stuck to his script at the first event of the day in which he discussed cybersecurity.

VP debate

The tax issue will almost certainly play a significant role in Tuesday's vice presidential debate. If that's the case, it will be a lost opportunity for Trump's running mate, Mike Pence, to present himself to the country as a moderating force on the GOP nominee and someone who can offer a coherent case against a Clinton presidency.

And ahead of the next presidential debate on Sunday, there's no sign Trump will do something to address the lack of focus, preparation and impulse control that helped contribute to Clinton's win at last week's showdown. Trump is now vowing to be nastier than Clinton at the second debate, bringing up Bill Clinton's marital indiscretions. At a wild rally on Saturday night, he even questioned whether Hillary Clinton had been "loyal" to her husband.

Such rhetoric not only calls into question Trump's strategy, it lets Clinton slide on some of her most significant vulnerabilities, such as her email server and questions of trust and honesty.

Trump's approach, and refusal to ignore a trap laid by Clinton in the first debate over his treatment of former Miss Universe contestant Alicia Machado, raises doubt over whether he can make inroads with educated women voters who could be vital to claim must-win states like Pennsylvania.
The freewheeling Trump on display in recent days is particularly notable because he had been doing so well and appeared keen to project more discipline under his retooled campaign team. The GOP nominee effectively wiped out Clinton's lead in national polls after an effective spell through August and mid-September. He was beginning to match her in swing states on the electoral map.

Then, after an encouraging first 30 minutes of the debate, it all went downhill. Trump has not allowed himself to get back on message ever since.
"What happened to him was he was doing well," said Van Jones, a Democrat who is supporting Hillary Clinton, on "State of the Union." "I was terrified 10 days ago this guy was going to be able to be disciplined. Hillary Clinton in 15 minutes said two or three things and threw him off his game and he has not been able to recover since the debate."

Trump's Rust Belt route

The GOP nominee's only route to the White House lies in running the table through the Rust Belt from Pennsylvania, through Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin. That's why the tax story could prove powerful if struggling blue collar workers disaffected with the Democrats and considering Trump are alienated by the revelation -- even if everything was perfectly legal.

The tax issue also allows Democrats to reclaim the narrative about economic equality and fairness that proved so powerful for President Barack Obama against Republican nominee Mitt Romney in 2012. Clinton's primary rival, Bernie Sanders, relished the chance to make that point.

"So, you have got the middle-class people working longer hours for low wages. They pay their taxes. They support their schools. They support their infrastructure. They support the military. But the billionaires, no, they don't have to do that, because they have their friends on Capitol Hill. They pay zero in taxes," Sanders said on "State of the Union." "So, Trump goes around and says, 'hey, I'm worth billions, I'm a successful businessman, but I don't pay any taxes. But, you, you make 15 bucks an hour, you pay the taxes, not me.'"

He added: "That's why people are angry and want real change in this country."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/03/politics/donald-trump-tax/index.html

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #770 on: October 03, 2016, 01:47:21 PM »
Way to go FBI!  :D



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happens a lot.  not cool.  i remember the deal mitt made to just buy all his laptops so he could erase records of what went on while in office.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #771 on: October 03, 2016, 01:52:45 PM »
^^ Wow!  Hillary is pretty fucking gangster!  Trump better be careful messing about with her...  She may come back for unfinished business after she steals the election, which I believe she will (and hope she does).

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #772 on: October 03, 2016, 02:36:13 PM »
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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #773 on: October 03, 2016, 04:06:30 PM »
^^ Wow!  Hillary is pretty fucking gangster!  Trump better be careful messing about with her...  She may come back for unfinished business after she steals the election, which I believe she will (and hope she does).

You believe she'll steal the election and you hope she does, uh?

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