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Loose Change - Final Cut preview - review
« on: August 25, 2006, 10:22:50 PM »
Loose Change - Final Cut - early leak

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1375208054676470714&q=loose+change%3A+final+cut

9.32 or 9:37 ???

Many pentagon clocks stoped at 9:32 am
Official story - plane hit building at 9:37

These stopped clocks - one of them is in a plexiglass case in the smithsonian, on display.  Many are on many DOD/Navy websites.

What else shows a blast happened 5 minutes before attack?
A Denmark govt official also claimed it was 9:32.  He was across the street, saw the fireball and checked his watch. 

Three Army auditors say that on the morning of 911, there were multiple special bomb sniffing teams at the Pentagon. Wearing camoflague and all over the place.

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You also hear recordings of a man on the phone from the towers speaking while the live shot was being shown - you hear several bomb blasts around him, he screams and drops the phone, THEN the collapse begins. 

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Underwriters Laboratory took a big hit that day - they certified the steel of the towers, verified the quality of samples, but it failed anyway.  Impossible from fire alone, and UL came out and said that they stood by their certification.  They said the floors should not have fallen or even bent from jet fuel.  Their tests proved it, and they published it.  Later, they completely reversed their findings.  Did the laws of science change, or were they pressured? 

NIST was made aware of the contraditions between their findings and UL's.  UL stated the pancake theory was not possible.  The UL scientist asked NIST to come fwd with proof, or rescind their statement.   

The UL scientist was fired for it.   He said that many in his company were questioning this pancake collapse.  But once he was fired, they became quiet. 

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Jim Fetzer from Univ of Minn.
35 year professor in critical thinking and scientific reasoning.

He found the evidence to be very strightforward- and found the govt story to be provably false, and in violation of the laws of nature. He and 24 other scholars decided to start a loose affiliation of people who knew the official story was a lie.  This group became 911 Scholars for Truth.

4 smoking guns -
1) Black smoke at towers - oxygen starved.  This means the fires were only moderately hot.  And since steel does not break nor bend even at much higher temperatures.  And BTW, should the steel have weakened, it wuold have been a very gradual collapse.  The towers were over-engineered to support multiple hits, explosions, or other events. 

2) Huge cloud of debris & dust which appears when towers fell.  In a pancake collapse, there is no giant cloud like this.  The collapse created massive amounts of energy way beyond a collapse which would be

3) molten steel in basements.  There is absolutely no reason why these pockets should have been there.  Even the full jet capacity of fuel would have burned off very quickly down there - in minutes.  Instead, we have huge pockets of molten steel many weeks afterwards.  There was another chemical compound down there.  Unfortunately, it was never tested.

4) WTC 7 - it was a very strong building which came down at near-freefall rate.  This was a conventional controlled demolition.


2800 F is the melting point of steel
1800F is the maximum temp that jet fuel can burn at.

It was 1000 degrees too cool.

The steel weakeneing theory was outright dispelled by UL. 
Also, in 1975, there was an enormous fire in the 11th floor of one of the towers.  This fire lasted 3 hours and burned longer and hotter than the 2001 attacks.  The steel in the central column stood strong, even though the floor was completely gutted from fire.


Keith Olberman of MSNBC did a nice little study.  In 14 or 15 cases, when bush' poll numbers started to slip, there was - within 2 days - an announcement of a foiled terrorist attack.  His numbers would rebound each time.


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One of the main elevators in the towers - the one that reached from ground floor to the top floor - had been shut down for a month due to malfunctions.  (This would have been a very convenient place to put a lot of explosives, or move explosives into the building.

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Bob Pugh - a freelance video cameraman in Wash, DC.  Has worked for CNN, NBC, ABC, tells his story of what happened on Sept 11th.
 
At 9:38, he overheard the Arlington County Fire Dept dispatch a fire chief to a downed aircraft, but not at the Pentagon.  Both the FD and the media were repeatedly given incorrect information as to the location of the aircraft.  This man was in the area, and saw the Pentagon fire, and went there instead.  He began videotaping immediately, before any other media arrived.  He spent a lot of time on the scene searching for wreckage, and found very little. 

In his video, you can see him focusing on the impact zone.  He moves through the scene, filming.  Before the roof collapsed.  He filmed several severely burned people.

He estimates the pentagon "hole" to be 16 to 20 feet diameter.  There were no marks on the grass.  Whatever hit was precision.  The hole was the size of a garage door.  He has seen many aircraft crashes, and they all have wreckage.  Except this one.  He mentioned that they found the ryder truck axles in OK city.  yet here, there was no engine, no fuselage, etc.


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Joe Marrs - reporter.

Within 1 hour of attack, bin Laden was blamed.  Even the taliban tried to warn the US that an attack was coming.  Richard clarke admitted that when he first called Myers at NORAD, he heard that no interceptor planes were launched because they did not stop playing their wargames that AM.

April Gallup was at the pentagon when something exploded.  She crawled through the hole to get out.  Weird, huh?  There should have been a plane in that hole.  And fuel. And engines.  After all, remember the official story is that the engines, bodies, and fuselage were all "sucked" into that hole. 

She saw NO SIGNS OF AN AIRPLANE when climbing out of the hole in the building. 

Citgo, Sheraton hotel, multiple Pentagon tapes were sequestered by the FBI.  We all know that the NTSB reassembles aircraft after EVERY AIRPLANE CRASH IN US HISTORY. 

Except on 9/11.

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Alex Jones - radio host.

Govts have been staging fake terror attacks for thousands of years. He saw the govt preparing the country for a terror attack in early 2001.  So he got on his radio show/ webcast and warned America.

3 months before 9/11- He saw politicians get on TV and talk about how only by giving up rights can we be safe.

July 25th, 2001- He told america that the towers wuld be hit shortly, and bin laden would be blamed.  He knew the twin towers were overdue for a big asbestos overhaul which woudl cost a billion dollars.  He encouraged people to call the White House and beg them to not attack.

He also predicted a limited biological attack 4 weeks before military grade Anthrax was mailed to Bush's adversaries in politics and media.  Also Bush and White House staff got anthrax vaccinations the day before 9/11.

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This was just a preview.  Loose Change FINAL CUT will hit theaters in late Sept, 2006.

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Re: Loose Change - Final Cut preview - review
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2006, 04:15:23 AM »
No doubt this was an inside job.   :(
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Re: Loose Change - Final Cut preview - review
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2006, 06:52:35 AM »
Our role in all of this is simple.  Talk to your friends about it.  See what they think.  Debate them on what you've heard and research it together.  NONE of us is 100% right on anything.

However, the first time you hear about it, you mock it.  The second person you hear it from, you're a tad irritated but a little inquisitive.  And the 3rd person to talk to you about it, your mind becomes open to the evidence, and you can honestly look at it and make your own decisions based upon the evidence.

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Re: Loose Change - Final Cut preview - review
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2006, 11:00:37 AM »
240 - you atill don't get it.

Steel is a combusible material. I already posted the lab finds an failures from a report that was published in 1998.
The building code has listed steel as combustible because of heat failures like this has done so since the early 60's.

If codes that were written well before the towers collapsed listed steel as combustible. The the person varifying the steel must have been mistaken if he said it would not fail due to heat.

The didn't use any special type of steel if they fire cated it.

The IST reports are right, get money together and sue them if your group thinks they are wrong.
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Re: Loose Change - Final Cut preview - review
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2006, 01:45:52 PM »
The didn't use any special type of steel if they fire cated it.

The IST reports are right, get money together and sue them if your group thinks they are wrong.

You are using the NIST.gov report. 

A federally funded agency, investigating a crime against federal targets, possibly allowed or executed by a small group of federally elected people.

See anything wrong here?

Give invites to 100 top scientists & engineers in the world and put them in a room for 6 months.  They don't come out until there is a complete report they all agree upon.  I bet you my bottom dollar they don't come to the conclusion that concrete explodes.