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Title: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: NordicNerd on August 02, 2016, 01:23:55 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-donald-trump-just-plain-crazy/2016/08/01/cd171e86-581d-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

By Eugene Robinson Opinion writer August 1 at 7:39 PM

"During the primary season, as Donald Trump’s bizarre outbursts helped him crush the competition, I thought he was being crazy like a fox. Now I am increasingly convinced that he’s just plain crazy.

I’m serious about that. Leave aside for the moment Trump’s policies, which in my opinion range from the unconstitutional to the un-American to the potentially catastrophic. At this point, it would be irresponsible to ignore the fact that Trump’s grasp on reality appears to be tenuous at best.

Begin with the fact that he lies the way other people breathe. Telling a self-serving lie — no matter how transparent, no matter how easily disproved — seems to be a reflex for him. Look at the things he has said in just the past week.

On Wednesday, at a news conference in Florida, Trump said he has never met Russian President Vladimir Putin. “I never met Putin, I don’t know who Putin is,” he said.

Last November, he claimed that he “got to know [Putin] very well because we were both on ‘60 Minutes.’ ” That made no sense; while the two men were featured the same evening on the CBS newsmagazine show, they were interviewed in different cities and would have had no interaction. But there’s more: In 2014, speaking at the National Press Club, Trump said, “I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success.”

So was he lying last week, when he was trying to deflect criticism of his admiring words for the Russian strongman? Or was he lying two years ago, when he was trying to convince everyone what a big shot he was?

Also within the week, Trump lied in complaining about the presidential debate schedule and its conflicts with professional football. He told ABC News’s George Stephanopoulos, “I got a letter from the NFL saying, ‘This is ridiculous. Why are the debates against — ’ because the NFL doesn’t want to go against the debates.”

The National Football League responded: “We did not send a letter.”

Trump also lied about his interactions with the conservative billionaire Koch brothers. “I turned down a meeting with Charles and David Koch. Much better for them to meet with the puppets of politics, they will do much better!” Trump proclaimed Saturday on Twitter.

A spokesman for the Koch organization said no meeting with Trump was requested.

It is theoretically possible, I suppose, that Trump is telling the truth and everyone else is lying — although in the case of the Putin relationship, it’s Trump’s word against Trump’s. Or perhaps the lies about the NFL and the Koch brothers are little things. But he also lies about big things — claiming, for example, that he opposed the Iraq War and the Libya intervention all along, when the record shows that initially he supported both. No, Trump is clearly a liar.

Also, he’s alarmingly thin-skinned. Referring to critics who spoke at the Democratic National Convention, Trump said Thursday that he wanted to “hit a number of those speakers so hard, their heads would spin.” And: “I was going to hit one guy in particular, a very little guy.” Trump made clear Friday on Twitter that he was talking about “ ‘Little’ Michael Bloomberg, who never had the guts to run for president.”

Bloomberg, a far wealthier New York billionaire, had belittled Trump’s supposed strength — his business acumen. In a tantrum of tweets, Trump charged that Bloomberg’s last term as mayor of New York was a “disaster.” Back during Bloomberg’s final year, however, Trump called Bloomberg a “great” mayor. Which is it, I wonder?



Finally, there’s ample evidence that Trump is the worst kind of bully. Look at the way he reacted to the powerful Democratic convention speech by Khizr Khan, the father of a Muslim American soldier who was killed in the Iraq War.

Trump initially did not have the courage to respond directly to Khan. Instead he smarmily attacked Khan’s wife, Ghazala, who had stood silently on the stage. “She was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me.”

There’s no need for me to defend Ghazala Khan, who spoke eloquently for herself in a Post op-ed. But tell me: What kind of man has so little empathy for a grieving mother’s loss? Is that normal? Is it healthy?

The presidency comes with far-reaching powers. Not everyone should be allowed to wield them."
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Nails on August 02, 2016, 01:29:36 PM
Trump just received a purple heart, said he always wanted one and this was far easier then earning one on the battle field.



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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: French on August 02, 2016, 01:30:16 PM
and lying about Vietnam. Disqualified forever.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 01:34:02 PM
                                         ::)

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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 02, 2016, 01:35:09 PM
and lying about Vietnam. Disqualified forever.


Not fair.  Sleeping around and avoiding STDs was his "personal Vietnam."
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 02, 2016, 01:35:53 PM
most politicians are a bit "off"
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: disco_stu on August 02, 2016, 01:55:54 PM
if anyone votes for Trump, consider yourself a moron.

dont fight it, dont try to ask why, you simply wont and dont get it.

but voting for Trump clearly defines what intellectual capability you were blessed with.

i expect many rednecks, simpletons and GB members are all rooting for him.

complete morons.

there's nothing more to say.

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 01:58:51 PM
it's not just liberals asking this anymore.  It's a lot of republicans now.

he just said he won't endorse paul ryan.
he continually tweets about the dead soldier's family.
he has stepped in more this over the past 72 hours than in the past year.

Look, we all have a manic person in our families.  We know that person. up at 4am, painting the mailbox or calling people from high school to talk about their feelings.   Trump is acting like that manic person.  It'll pass.  But it's pretty tough to see repubs question his sanity.  and they are.


Americans may elect a pro-Putin, mentally "iffy" person to hold the nuclear football.  Good luck with that.    Go ahead and talk about hilary's emails as if that is a valid defense here.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: devilsmile on August 02, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
Is Hillary sane?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 02:06:19 PM
Is Hillary sane?
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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: devilsmile on August 02, 2016, 02:14:04 PM
Yeah, I don't get why people still take this election seriously. All the information out there basically proves that both hillary and trump are excessive liars, and the clintons have a very nasty history, all lies, murder, fraud... yet people vote for them.

Would love to see what happens if people all of a sudden stopped giving them any attention and just got along. LOL

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 02:16:58 PM
Yeah, I don't get why people still take this election seriously. All the information out there basically proves that both hillary and trump are excessive liars, and the clintons have a very nasty history, all lies, murder, fraud... yet people vote for them.

Would love to see what happens if people all of a sudden stopped giving them any attention and just got along. LOL


I would not put Trump in the same corruption circle as Clinton at all.  I think Trump is honest and unfiltered.  People take that and think he is lying when he is not.  He just says what he thinks at the moment and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

He actually is very intelligent and is an effective communicator, especially his ability to cause others to meltdown.  There is no better time than right now for Trump. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 02:21:17 PM
I think Trump is honest and unfiltered.

How many outright lies would you estimate Trump has told while running for President?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Nails on August 02, 2016, 02:22:21 PM
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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: devilsmile on August 02, 2016, 02:25:49 PM
I would not put Trump in the same corruption circle as Clinton at all.  I think Trump is honest and unfiltered.  People take that and think he is lying when he is not.  He just says what he thinks at the moment and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

He actually is very intelligent and is an effective communicator, especially his ability to cause others to meltdown.  There is no better time than right now for Trump. 

Hell no is trump nearly as corrupt as hillary. Hillary basically commits treason and has a party with it. Would prefer trump over hillary any day, but I don't know is trump capable doing any of the shit he "promises". Obama promised to change the world, but he just talked his way in the slave house and then some people with southern accent told him to "follow certain guide lines".
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 02, 2016, 02:26:44 PM
if anyone votes for Trump, consider yourself a moron.

dont fight it, dont try to ask why, you simply wont and dont get it.

but voting for Trump clearly defines what intellectual capability you were blessed with.

i expect many rednecks, simpletons and GB members are all rooting for him.

complete morons.

there's nothing more to say.


Getbig is the hardcore base of Trump nation ...with folks like Coach, Adonis, and the odd neo-Nazi etc. leading the charge.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Dokey111 on August 02, 2016, 02:28:57 PM
Yeah, I don't get why people still take this election seriously. All the information out there basically proves that both hillary and trump are excessive liars, and the clintons have a very nasty history, all lies, murder, fraud... yet people vote for them.

Would love to see what happens if people all of a sudden stopped giving them any attention and just got along. LOL



right that's just too much lying.  more than necessary
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2016, 02:29:22 PM
I would not put Trump in the same corruption circle as Clinton at all.  I think Trump is honest and unfiltered.  People take that and think he is lying when he is not.  He just says what he thinks at the moment and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

He actually is very intelligent and is an effective communicator, especially his ability to cause others to meltdown.  There is no better time than right now for Trump.  
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: youandme on August 02, 2016, 02:32:00 PM
How dare you mock Trump who's running a legit campaign against a criminal girl that should be locked up. You must be a Mexican or something.

Clinton 50 million from Hedge Funds, Trump 19k. Shows how she can be bought. Just a prostitute.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2016, 02:38:06 PM
How dare you mock Trump who's running a legit campaign against a criminal girl that should be locked up. You must be a Mexican or something.

Clinton 50 million from Hedge Funds, Trump 19k. Shows how she can be bought. Just a prostitute.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 02, 2016, 02:43:56 PM
Trump just received a purple heart, said he always wanted one and this was far easier then earning one on the battle field.



(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160802115707-donald-trump-purple-heart-rally-00005628-large-169.jpg)

Trump should have just held the purple heart and said " I just want to shake the hand of the man who received the purple heart. And say I'm not worthy of the purple heart. Thank the man for his service and give the medal back to the vet and say this belongs to your family"...Taking the guy's purple heart is weird.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Kahn.N.Singh on August 02, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
This election has the character of a Shakespearean "problem play," a tragicomedy in which the joke is at the expense of electorate's misfortune: viz. of having to choose the least repulsive (either the duplicitous Lady Macbeth or the buffoonish Falstaff). :-\
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 03:02:03 PM
How many outright lies would you estimate Trump has told while running for President?
I don't really see it as lying.  Lying is implying that there is intent to mislead.  I don't think that is Trump's intentions at all.  People just can't hand someone who is unfiltered.  Weak people, that is.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TheShape. on August 02, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
They're really running scared now, the hostile takeover of Donald Trump!
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 02, 2016, 04:02:56 PM
it's not just liberals asking this anymore.  It's a lot of republicans now.

he just said he won't endorse paul ryan.
he continually tweets about the dead soldier's family.
he has stepped in more this over the past 72 hours than in the past year.

Look, we all have a manic person in our families.  We know that person. up at 4am, painting the mailbox or calling people from high school to talk about their feelings.   Trump is acting like that manic person.  It'll pass.  But it's pretty tough to see repubs question his sanity.  and they are.


Americans may elect a pro-Putin, mentally "iffy" person to hold the nuclear football.  Good luck with that.    Go ahead and talk about hilary's emails as if that is a valid defense here.

C'mon 240. I liked you better when you were making wrong predictions about Phil Heath instantly retiring after he won the next O, haha.

For the record, Trump will win in a landslide. That's my prediction - let's see how it compares to yours...
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2016, 04:02:59 PM
most politicians are a bit "off"

True, true, but Trump seems more than a bit off.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2016, 04:05:51 PM
I don't really see it as lying.  Lying is implying that there is intent to mislead.  I don't think that is Trump's intentions at all.  People just can't hand someone who is unfiltered.  Weak people, that is.

It seems as if you are a little deluded when it comes to Trump and lying. He's frequently awarded "pants on fire" by the press.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 04:07:00 PM
It seems as if you are a little deluded when it comes to Trump and lying. He's frequently awarded "pants on fire" by the press.
::)
"The Press"
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2016, 04:11:43 PM
::)
"The Press"

If you want to disprove the media, check the facts yourself.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 04:13:13 PM
C'mon 240. I liked you better when you were making wrong predictions about Phil Heath instantly retiring after he won the next O, haha.

I didn't know he'd take a bath on the new supp company this year ;)  

For the record, Trump will win in a landslide. That's my prediction - let's see how it compares to yours...

Trump is running to hand it to hilary.   Limp into the nomination then immediately torpedo his own campaign (which he has done the past 3 days), and hilary wins by 40 states.

Watch the news today - repubs are abandoning him, and he's poking them in the eye.  Refusing to endorse paul ryan after ryan endorsed him and shut down party rebellion?  

It's silly, but it's what i believe - trump is trolling us.  He wants hilary to win, and he's practically ensured it.  He's tanking in polls... 8 point swing in the last week now.   Only candidate to come out of a convention polling WORSE in voter confidence than before.  Ever.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: lilhawk1 on August 02, 2016, 04:14:10 PM
if anyone votes for Trump, consider yourself a moron.

dont fight it, dont try to ask why, you simply wont and dont get it.

but voting for Trump clearly defines what intellectual capability you were blessed with.

i expect many rednecks, simpletons and GB members are all rooting for him.

complete morons.

there's nothing more to say.

This^^


Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 02, 2016, 04:15:47 PM
I didn't know he'd take a bath on the new supp company this year ;)  

Trump is running to hand it to hilary.   Limp into the nomination then immediately torpedo his own campaign (which he has done the past 3 days), and hilary wins by 40 states.

Watch the news today - repubs are abandoning him, and he's poking them in the eye.  Refusing to endorse paul ryan after ryan endorsed him and shut down party rebellion?  

It's silly, but it's what i believe - trump is trolling us.  He wants hilary to win, and he's practically ensured it.  He's tanking in polls... 8 point swing in the last week now.   Only candidate to come out of a convention polling WORSE in voter confidence than before.  Ever.

Do you suppose he will throw one of his famous temper tantrums and then abandon his campaign.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 04:18:06 PM
Do you suppose he will throw one of his famous temper tantrums and than abandon his campaign.

I don't know how the campaign meets its demise.  Maybe he goes down 22 points in polls, and just take 6 weeks off.   Quietly do a few small events but just quietly let hilary be given the title without a fight.

He's unstable this week.  All over the place.  Zero cool.  Zero composure.   And it's only a campaign in August. 

Anyone who looks at trump the last 3 days, and saying that want THAT making the decisions regarding war when things get tense, is lying to themselves. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 02, 2016, 04:22:36 PM
I didn't know he'd take a bath on the new supp company this year ;)  

Trump is running to hand it to hilary.   Limp into the nomination then immediately torpedo his own campaign (which he has done the past 3 days), and hilary wins by 40 states.

Watch the news today - repubs are abandoning him, and he's poking them in the eye.  Refusing to endorse paul ryan after ryan endorsed him and shut down party rebellion?  

It's silly, but it's what i believe - trump is trolling us.  He wants hilary to win, and he's practically ensured it.  He's tanking in polls... 8 point swing in the last week now.   Only candidate to come out of a convention polling WORSE in voter confidence than before.  Ever.

I do like your writing, lol.

Oh, and ....

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 02, 2016, 04:23:57 PM
I don't know how the campaign meets its demise.  Maybe he goes down 22 points in polls, and just take 6 weeks off.   Quietly do a few small events but just quietly let hilary be given the title without a fight.

He's unstable this week.  All over the place.  Zero cool.  Zero composure.   And it's only a campaign in August. 

Anyone who looks at trump the last 3 days, and saying that want THAT making the decisions regarding war when things get tense, is lying to themselves. 

hopefully, he hangs in there until at least that first debate.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 02, 2016, 04:26:20 PM
It's beginning to look as though he just doesn't give a fuck. And not like he "doesn't care what people think of him" give a fuck, but the "I don't care who I piss off or what the outcome is" give a fuck. For the record, Hilary is a putrid human being and I won't be voting for her either. I may sit this one out.  :-\
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2016, 04:40:26 PM
It seems as if you are a little deluded when it comes to Trump and lying. He's frequently awarded "pants on fire" by the press.

You seem to deluded in regards to Killary who never tells the truth. Even the NY Times has been on her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/10/opinion/sunday/the-clinton-contamination.html


"The Clintons work hard but don’t play by the rules. Imagine them in the White House with the benefit of low expectations."
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 04:42:49 PM
hopefully, he hangs in there until at least that first debate.

many believe he'll kick her ass because he's such a great attack dog - and he is.

by the time the debates arrive, the TB Bucs will already be statistically eliminated from playoff contention, and Trump may be 20 points down in the polls.  I think he'd cancel at that point, citing scheduling issues, etc.  

People buy his BS when he says it... his wife straight copped Michelle obama's speech, claimed she wrote it alone, and a simple "oh, a friend helped and she accidentally stole it, no worries" was all it took to end the story.   He lies so much people just shrug it off.  He did NOT know russia already invaded ukraine when he promised it'd never happen, and the way he spun a "oh, yeah, i meant they'll never do it again... and obam'as to blame because..."

i've been pretty accurate about trump.  I predicted immediately that he'd win that nomination.  He did.   I predicted hilary would steal it from bernie, and she did. and i predict a 40 state blowout.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: cephissus on August 02, 2016, 04:44:17 PM
does lying make someone mentally ill ???
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2016, 04:48:44 PM
Oh and even the Washington Post gave her four pinocchios. :D


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/31/clintons-claim-that-the-fbi-director-said-her-email-answers-were-truthful/


Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail
View Photos   The former secretary of state, senator and first lady is the Democratic nominee for president.

“Director Comey said my answers were truthful, and what I’ve said is consistent with what I have told the American people, that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the emails.”
—Hillary Clinton, interview on “Fox News Sunday,” July 31, 2016

Clinton made these remarks after “Fox News Sunday” host Chris Wallace played a video of her saying: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified materials. I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time. I had not sent classified material nor received anything marked classified.”

As Wallace put it, “After a long investigation, FBI Director James Comey said none of those things that you told the American public were true.”

After Clinton denied that, Wallace played another video of an exchange between Comey and Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chair of the House Select Committee on Benghazi:

GOWDY: Secretary Clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her emails either sent or received. Was that true?
COMEY: That’s not true.
GOWDY: Secretary Clinton said, “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.” Was that true?
COMEY: There was classified material emailed.

So what’s going on here?

The Facts

Clinton is cherry-picking statements by Comey to preserve her narrative about the unusual setup of a private email server. This allows her to skate past the more disturbing findings of the FBI investigation

For instance, when Clinton asserts “my answers were truthful,” a campaign aide said she is referring to this statement by Comey to Congress: “We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI.”

But that’s not the whole story. When House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) asked whether Clinton had lied to the American public, Comey dodged: “That’s a question I’m not qualified to answer. I can speak about what she said to the FBI.”

At another point, Comey told Congress: “I really don’t want to get in the business of trying to parse and judge her public statements. And so I think I’ve tried to avoid doing that sitting here. … What matters to me is what did she say to the FBI. That’s obviously first and foremost for us.”

Comey was also asked whether Clinton broke the law: “In connection with her use of the email server? My judgment is that she did not,” Comey said.


As for retroactive classification of emails, Comey did say many emails were retroactively classified. But he also said that some emails were classified at the time — and Clinton and her aides should have been aware of that.

Here’s how Comey put it in his lengthy statement when he announced the completion of the investigation: “Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”

Comey said “seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters.”

He added: “There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.” He noted that “even if information is not marked ‘classified’ in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.”

In her response to Wallace, Clinton at one point appeared to deflect responsibility to her aides: “I relied on and had every reason to rely on the judgments of the professionals with whom I worked. And so, in retrospect, maybe some people are saying, well, among those 300 people, they made the wrong call.”

Testifying before Congress, Comey said it was possible Clinton was not “technically sophisticated” enough to understand what the classified markings meant. But he said a government official should be attentive to such a marking.

The Pinocchio Test

As we have seen repeatedly in Clinton’s explanations of the email controversy, she relies on excessively technical and legalistic answers to explain her actions. While Comey did say there was no evidence she lied to the FBI, that is not the same as saying she told the truth to the American public — which was the point of Wallace’s question. Comey has repeatedly not taken a stand on her public statements.

And although Comey did say many emails were retroactively classified, he also said that there were some emails that were already classified that should not have been sent on an unclassified, private server. That’s the uncomfortable truth that Clinton has trouble admitting.

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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 02, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
many believe he'll kick her ass because he's such a great attack dog - and he is.

Trump nation will lap up his clownery, no doubt.
But how many undecided/swing voters tuning in will be impressed with Donald's one-on-one debating skills?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 02, 2016, 04:57:21 PM
I do like your writing, lol.

Oh, and ....



Ironically, the Dems tried the same tactic with Reagan, saying he was crazy and you don't want his finger on the button. Didn't work then, won't work, now.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 02, 2016, 05:00:03 PM
I didn't know he'd take a bath on the new supp company this year ;)  

Trump is running to hand it to hilary.   Limp into the nomination then immediately torpedo his own campaign (which he has done the past 3 days), and hilary wins by 40 states.

Watch the news today - repubs are abandoning him, and he's poking them in the eye.  Refusing to endorse paul ryan after ryan endorsed him and shut down party rebellion?  

It's silly, but it's what i believe - trump is trolling us.  He wants hilary to win, and he's practically ensured it.  He's tanking in polls... 8 point swing in the last week now.   Only candidate to come out of a convention polling WORSE in voter confidence than before.  Ever.
It really is the only logical explanation for his behavior. Sure doesn't behave like someone who wants to be elected.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 02, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
Ironically, the Dems tried the same tactic with Reagan, saying he was crazy and you don't want his finger on the button. Didn't work then, won't work, now.

They have 3 plays only, stupid, evil or crazy.  Stupid doesn't work.  He seems to nice a guy for evil except to hardcore leftists.  That leaves crazy.  Just like you said, didn't work with Reagan.

He's gonna win in a landslide.  People don't want open borders Hillary promised.  They don't want unvetted refugees bringing in terror.  They want to side with cops over thugs.  They don't want globalism.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mazrim on August 02, 2016, 06:01:20 PM


Watch the news today - repubs are abandoning him, and he's poking them in the eye.  Refusing to endorse paul ryan after ryan endorsed him and shut down party rebellion?  
If anyone cared what another spineless politician thought (in this case Ryan) then Trump wouldn't be here.

It took the loser Ryan forever to endorse Trump so if it takes a bit for Trump to endorse him then so be it. Maybe he shouldn't in reality if Ryan is such a dummy that he wanted to basically try and go against what the people wanted, hand it to Hillary, etc.

Nobody cares except other crappy, no backbone politicians. Lol, he's one of the ones that started the divisiveness.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 06:13:31 PM
It's beginning to look as though he just doesn't give a fuck. And not like he "doesn't care what people think of him" give a fuck, but the "I don't care who I piss off or what the outcome is" give a fuck. For the record, Hilary is a putrid human being and I won't be voting for her either. I may sit this one out.  :-\
Don't be a fucking crybaby.  What offended you now? 


What the hell is wrong with people these days?  ???
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 02, 2016, 06:17:36 PM
My grandpa nearly died for his Purple Heart.

What's amazing to me is the blind worship Trump supporters have.  Trump allows them to hate the way they want.  That is why they give him the ultimate pass:  social and political "God Mode."

No one else could get away with this.  Goes to show how hateful of a nation we truly are.   :-X
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
it's not just liberals asking this anymore.  It's a lot of republicans now.

he just said he won't endorse paul ryan.
he continually tweets about the dead soldier's family.
he has stepped in more this over the past 72 hours than in the past year.

Look, we all have a manic person in our families.  We know that person. up at 4am, painting the mailbox or calling people from high school to talk about their feelings.   Trump is acting like that manic person.  It'll pass.  But it's pretty tough to see repubs question his sanity.  and they are.


Americans may elect a pro-Putin, mentally "iffy" person to hold the nuclear football.  Good luck with that.    Go ahead and talk about hilary's emails as if that is a valid defense here.

You do realize this "dead soldier's" father is an immigration attorney who makes a shitload of money brining illegal immigrants into the U.S. don't you?

This guy is speaking out to protect his livelihood and to fill your neighborhood with Muslim scum.

Hardly just an innocent bystander weighing in with an opinion
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 06:19:40 PM
Trump nation will lap up his clownery, no doubt.
But how many undecided/swing voters tuning in will be impressed with Donald's one-on-one debating skills?

trump was great when there were 11 people on the debate stage.   seven zingers a night.

But in the later debates, when he had to speak for 15+ minutes each night, he became entirely average.

I think - it's possible - people are starting to tire of trump.  Moderates/undecideds/swing voters don't just lap up things like the far-right supporters do.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 06:20:52 PM
if anyone votes for Trump, consider yourself a moron.

dont fight it, dont try to ask why, you simply wont and dont get it.

but voting for Trump clearly defines what intellectual capability you were blessed with.

i expect many rednecks, simpletons and GB members are all rooting for him.

complete morons.

there's nothing more to say.



Cut and pasted from obama's TelePrompTer.....

Liberals are absolutely shitting themselves.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
You do realize this "dead soldier's" father is an immigration attorney who makes a shitload of money brining illegal immigrants into the U.S. don't you?
This guy is speaking out to protect his livelihood and to fill your neighborhood with Muslim scum.
Hardly just an innocent bystander weighing in with an opinion

But out of the dozens of people that shit all over trump at the convention -

he chooses THIS ONE to keep harping on?  

I mean, shit shit shit crappy growth numbers just came out - and trump isn't tweeting about that all the time, he's shitting on firefighters, battling this family, crapping on paul ryan, etc.   He is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 02, 2016, 06:22:05 PM
My grandpa nearly died for his Purple Heart.

What's amazing to me is the blind worship Trump supporters have.  Trump allows them to hate the way they want.  That is why they give him the ultimate pass:  social and political "God Mode."

No one else could get away with this.  Goes to show how hateful of a nation we truly are.   :-X

And many of them think that "He's gonna win in a landslide." hahaha
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 06:23:39 PM
My grandpa nearly died for his Purple Heart.

What's amazing to me is the blind worship Trump supporters have.  Trump allows them to hate the way they want.  That is why they give him the ultimate pass:  social and political "God Mode."

No one else could get away with this.  Goes to show how hateful of a nation we truly are.   :-X
You see what the Dumbocrats have gotten away with?  They had the mothers and family members of criminals speaking at the DNC.  The Black Lives Matter morons who, in every single case, the perpetrator was a thug looking to assault an officer while or after committing some other crime.  The cherry on top is that in every single case, the police, are found not guilty.  Yet the BLM morons given a platform are somehow "innocent".

If that isn't "God Mode" I don't know what is.  Now I see the BLM movement released their demands which include reparations.  ::)  So this is the new Dumbocratic Party, race baiting morons, filled with law breakers, demanding shit they have no right to.

Its pathetic.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 06:24:32 PM
Liberals are absolutely shitting themselves.

Since the conventions... have you seen the polls?   Are you watching msnbc today?

liberals are celebrating and gloating.   Trump won the nomination, keeping Ryan, Rand, Jeb, and others from being scary opponents.

He took a night off to stretch his legs.  

Then he promptly decided to *sink the fck* out of his own campaign.  It's underway now.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 02, 2016, 06:27:05 PM
You see what the Dumbocrats have gotten away with?  They had the mothers and family members of criminals speaking at the DNC.  The Black Lives Matter morons who, in every single case, the perpetrator was a thug looking to assault an officer while or after committing some other crime.  The cherry on top is that in every single case, the police, are found not guilty.  Yet they are given a platform are somehow "innocent".

If that isn't "God Mode" I don't know what is.  Now I see the BLM movement released their demands which include reparations.  ::)  So this is the new Dumbocratic Party, race baiting morons, filled with law breakers, demanding shit they have no right to.

Its pathetic.

Brah I hope you are right, because if you are WRONG, you are going to end up KILLING YOURSELF.  Your head is so far up Trump's golden ass, I don't think you can see straight.  Just being honest man. 

And not everyone who is against Trump is a democrat, btw. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 06:28:33 PM
But out of the dozens of people that shit all over trump at the convention -

he chooses THIS ONE to keep harping on?  

I mean, shit shit shit crappy growth numbers just came out - and trump isn't tweeting about that all the time, he's shitting on firefighters, battling this family, crapping on paul ryan, etc.   He is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  

Let's have some fucking perspective here....

Donald trump isnt directly responsible for the death of 4 people in Benghazi. Donald trump didn't lie to the families of the 4 people he got killed in Benghazi.

Just because the MSM is trying to make a big deal out of this, doesn't mean it's a big deal.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 06:28:41 PM
Then you have the Dumbocrats convincing everybody that Islam is a peaceful religion and that despite 80 plus percent of Palestinians agreeing with Suicide bombing as a form of retribution to defend Islam, denying women nearly all human rights, that this place should be a country and its ideas should go unchecked.   ::)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/1/pew-poll-palestinians-favor-suicide-bombings-shari/

A new global survey of Muslims by the Pew Research Center has found that Palestinian Arab Muslims polled the highest in favor of suicide bombings as a justifiable means “to defend Islam.”

The poll also found that 89 percent of Palestinian Muslims favored sharia becoming “the official law of the land.”
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 02, 2016, 06:31:39 PM
Let's have some fucking perspective here....

Donald trump isnt directly responsible for the death of 4 people in Benghazi. Donald trump didn't lie to the families of the 4 people he got killed in Benghazi.

Just because the MSM is trying to make a big deal out of this, doesn't mean it's a big deal.

LOL Let's be honest here.  4 people?!  In a war torn country?  We've lost countless more under Bush and Obama and many others. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 02, 2016, 06:33:57 PM
Then you have the Dumbocrats convincing everybody that Islam is a peaceful religion and that despite 80 plus percent of Palestinians agreeing with Suicide bombing as a form of retribution to defend Islam, denying women nearly all human rights, that this place should be a country and its ideas should go unchecked.   ::)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/1/pew-poll-palestinians-favor-suicide-bombings-shari/

A new global survey of Muslims by the Pew Research Center has found that Palestinian Arab Muslims polled the highest in favor of suicide bombings as a justifiable means “to defend Islam.”

The poll also found that 89 percent of Palestinian Muslims favored sharia becoming “the official law of the land.”

TA, I'm with you on extremist Islam.  It needs to stay away, but at the same time, so do we.  Our policies cause blowback which lead to terrorism.  Ron Paul laid this out beautifully in 2008 and was laughed out of the election.  Yet look where we are today.  The man was right.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 06:36:26 PM
LOL Let's be honest here.  4 people?!  In a war torn country?  We've lost countless more under Bush and Obama and many others. 
In a war that Hillary voted for and supported, sending that moron Muslim to his death who died by an Islamic Radical suicide bomber, whose family then spoke at the DNC and supporting Hillary and Islam, the ONLY two things directly related to killing their son.

Yet somehow Trump is the bad guy, crazy guy?  You can't make this shit up.  The Dumbocrats have really changed and I no longer want a part of them.  Its disgusting.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 06:38:04 PM
TA, I'm with you on extremist Islam.  It needs to stay away, but at the same time, so do we.  Our policies cause blowback which lead to terrorism.  Ron Paul laid this out beautifully in 2008 and was laughed out of the election.  Yet look where we are today.  The man was right.
There is only one candidate up there who wants and wanted to stay away and its not Hillary.

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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 06:39:44 PM
WASHINGTON ― Just days before Republicans adopted a new, more Russia-friendly plank into their party platform, one of Donald Trump’s top advisers visited Moscow in July to deliver speeches criticizing decades of U.S. foreign policy.

Global energy investor Carter Page joined Trump’s team in March. Since then, Page has criticized U.S.-Russia policy in a number of public speeches, and repeatedly expressed his hope that a closer relationship between the two nations might be possible with Trump in the White House.

“Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption, and regime change,” Page said last month during a commencement speech at a Moscow economics graduate school.

Page also suggested the United States should ease economic sanctions imposed on Russia following its 2014 incursion into Ukraine and Crimea, which was condemned in an overwhelming vote in the United Nations. In exchange for sanctions relief, Page said, American companies might be invited to partner with Russian firms to exploit Russia’s oil and gas fields.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carter-page-trump-russia_us_57a0f329e4b0693164c2fb41

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Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 02, 2016, 06:42:50 PM
Don't be a fucking crybaby.  What offended you now? 


What the hell is wrong with people these days?  ???

??? Now? Shit man, most of what he says isn't that bad, but there are things that you would think his handlers would steer him from saying. A lot of people, and not just left wing liberals, get offended by what he says at times. I'd prefer him over Hilary but I think he's rocking the boat too much. If is wasn't something, the news media wouldn't be jumping on this shit.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 06:44:32 PM
LOL Let's be honest here.  4 people?!  In a war torn country?  We've lost countless more under Bush and Obama and many others. 

Liberal Handbook - Rule #1

When you or any liberal is made to look like a complete fool the fallback position to take is to "blame Bush"
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 06:48:45 PM
There is only one candidate up there who wants and wanted to stay away and its not Hillary.

(https://i.redditmedia.com/BY1KtUSikZNIHqVkY5L3UjDkpEyGjp05FIBDlalCpdY.jpg?w=960&s=c227e703e8b7e73bd8b4cb3f8120391c)

(https://i.redditmedia.com/Q1t6AbAoU3uitXs0SsGQkqHJjznBQO32aVQGPMwu9rQ.jpg?w=1024&s=9d41e83c7abd16a957b4fad886ac4c48)

How exactly did Donald Trump force this man's son to join the armed forces?

Gunpoint?
Knifepoint?
Free ham?
Offered booze and broads?

I'm not seeing where Donald Trump singlehandedly reinstituted the military draft?

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 06:50:28 PM
How exactly did Donald Trump force this man's son to join the armed forces?

Gunpoint?
Knifepoint?
Free ham?
Offered booze and broads?

I'm not seeing where Donald Trump singlehandedly reinstituted the military draft?


Exactly.  Its all a farce and I can't believe people take that family seriously about anything. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 06:55:52 PM
Exactly.  Its all a farce and I can't believe people take that family seriously about anything. 

If you join up to cash a pay check from a branch of the armed forces, or the National Guard during a time of war....shouldnt you expect to serve and be exposed to risk?

What makes this Muz fucker any more special than the other people who have lost their lives defending this nation?

Funny how these fuckers never point a finger at the assholes blowing themselves up in the name of allah or at these Imams who preach hate. But they're quick to cry about injustice because the TSA wants to search them before they get on a plane.

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Croatch on August 02, 2016, 06:58:43 PM
The point of the speech was speaking about immigration/religious beliefs and how it relates to the constitution.
It was such a bad staged speech...like the "ahah" moment, which completely went off track.  The guy had the charisma of a snail with his mute wife next to him, for amusement.

If Trump wins, so many will be crying in their libtard porridge.  It will be glorious.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 07:03:31 PM
The point of the speech was speaking about immigration/religious beliefs and how it relates to the constitution.
It was such a bad staged speech...like the "ahah" moment, which completely went off track.  The guy had the charisma of a snail with his mute wife next to him, for amusement.

If Trump wins, so many will be crying in their libtard porridge.  It will be glorious.

Everyone talks about how the U.S. needs to "solve" immigration.

No one ever talks about why cant Mexico clean up that shithole country enough that people won't want to risk their lives leaving it in droves.

Yet the fucking Mexican PM can stand up in the U.S. senate and chastise those spineless cucks over the treatment of illegals here in the U.S. with complete impunity.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 02, 2016, 07:08:07 PM
The point of the speech was speaking about immigration/religious beliefs and how it relates to the constitution.
It was such a bad staged speech...like the "ahah" moment, which completely went off track.  The guy had the charisma of a snail with his mute wife next to him, for amusement.

If Trump wins, so many will be crying in their libtard porridge.  It will be glorious.

If 240 is right and Trump really is a Democrat plant, rednecks will off themselves in rapid succession.  Hillary will have to dig mass graves in the South just to accommodate the load.  That way they can have a proper Budweiser funeral with their F-150's as their respective caskets.  Skynyrd will play the tunes, Drew Brees will lead in prayer and #BlueLivesMatter will provide complimentary security as the wives sell their food stamps to blacks and Mexicans at the local Exxon in between sessions.

It will be glorious!
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 07:12:32 PM
If 240 is right and Trump really is a Democrat plant, rednecks will off themselves in rapid succession.  Hillary will have to dig mass graves in the South just to accommodate the load.  That way they can have a proper Budweiser funeral with their F-150's as their respective caskets.  Skynyrd will play the tunes, Drew Brees will lead in prayer and #BlueLivesMatter will provide complimentary security as the wives sell their food stamps to blacks and Mexicans at the local Exxon in between sessions.

It will be glorious!

Trump will end affirmative action and welfare.

Nigs will live in mud huts.

Liberals will move back home with Mom and Dad.....again.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 02, 2016, 07:14:01 PM
Trump will end affirmative action and welfare.

Nigs will live in mud huts.

Liberals will move back home with Mom and Dad.....again.

If Trump ends welfare, then half his voter base just went belly up!
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Croatch on August 02, 2016, 07:14:29 PM
Trump will end affirmative action and welfare.

Nigs will live in mud huts.

Liberals will move back home with Mom and Dad.....again.
It seems like you had a racist parent or your girl left you for a well endowed black guy.  Am I right?
How many black people do you come in contact with regularly?  You sound like a child.

They should hire you on at Fox News.  You'd be great.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 02, 2016, 07:56:17 PM
just gonna put this here

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/opinion/how-the-stupid-party-created-donald-trump.html
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 08:24:26 PM
It seems like you had a racist parent or your girl left you for a well endowed black guy.  Am I right?
How many black people do you come in contact with regularly?  You sound like a child.

They should hire you on at Fox News.  You'd be great.

That's funny.

Crotch, I live in Chicago.

Wanna try again spermslurper?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 09:13:05 PM
Depends if you think being a sociopath is a mental illness. Some don't think it is.

Trump/Clinton are both your classic sociopaths. As are most in Washington DC...

A Sociopath

A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused—it is done to get one’s way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways (see lovefraud, for more on sociopaths).


Trump is not a compulsive Liar

Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit—an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship.

That's funny......we are talking about lying and the Clintons.

Lying and Bill and Hillary Clinton. Two of the most manipulative liars politics has ever seen.

And the MSM has fake outrage and concern that Trump isn't 100% truthful.

Holy shit on a hypocritical piece of toast.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 02, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
Trump is exceptionally candid.  This is part of his appeal.  Not scripted bullshit lies.  Says what he thinks and feels even if it sometimes comes off as bad at first.  His instincts are so good that it usually ends up being that he was right in what he says and all the pearl clutchers like 240 piss themselves when the media spin doesn't play out like the Libs want.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 02, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
Trump is exceptionally candid.  This is part of his appeal.  Not scripted bullshit lies.  Says what he thinks and feels even if it sometimes comes off as bad at first.  His instincts are so good that it usually ends up being that he was right in what he says and all the pearl clutchers like 240 piss themselves when the media spin doesn't play out like the Libs want.

Come on....look at who is "outraged" at what Trump says:

Blowjobama
Hillary
Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
Debbie Wasserman Shithead
Pocohontas Warren
Sean Penn(is)
Sarah Silverman
Senile Bernie
Chris Shivers Mathews
Wolf Blitzer
Anderson Cooperalls


So I have to ask.....who gives a shit that these fucking clowns are outraged? The absolute surest reason I ever had to vote for Trump was when Blowjobama came out yesterday trying to trash The Donald.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 09:42:07 PM
Trump is exceptionally candid.  This is part of his appeal.  Not scripted bullshit lies.  Says what he thinks and feels even if it sometimes comes off as bad at first.  His instincts are so good that it usually ends up being that he was right in what he says and all the pearl clutchers like 240 piss themselves when the media spin doesn't play out like the Libs want.
Thats the thing about these morons.  They think somehow Trump is not being truthful.  He most certainly is.  To lie you have to have intent to lie, knowing that what you are saying is not really in line with what you believe or what you know to be true.

Trump does not lie and is not intending to mislead at all.  Its pretty obvious that he does not have to lie to anyone, has never had to his whole career and has not given any indication that he is going to start.

The media and lots of morons simply cannot process what he says.  Their "faux" "outrage" then turns into "He must be lying, nobody would say that if they were running for president unless they were lying".  Little do they know he was not lying and just telling the truth.

Kind of like the Fast Food pictures.  They can't believe that he LOVES fast food.  He does.  For some reason they just can't comprehend that most sane people like things that taste good and fast food tastes REALLY good.

Also, it is interesting how what he says, usually ends up bearing out to be true.  The shitty thing there though is, by the time the truth bears out, the media has moved on so a correction is never made or remembered.  Not like they would do that anyways.

I can't wait for him to absolutely destroy Crooked Hillary this fall.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 02, 2016, 09:47:18 PM
I always bet on the underdog :-)
Trump bring a dem plant is certainly a far fetched theory.  George will made a great argument for it and many have agreed. 
Statistically, trump is most likely just a little batshit crazy and legit wants the win. 
But hey, it's more fun to roll with this theory.  I'll be the first to admit I was dumb shit wrong if trump wins the presidency. :-)
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2016, 09:55:16 PM
I always bet on the underdog :-)
Trump bring a dem plant is certainly a far fetched theory.  George will made a great argument for it and many have agreed.  
Statistically, trump is most likely just a little batshit crazy and legit wants the win.  
But hey, it's more fun to roll with this theory.  I'll be the first to admit I was dumb shit wrong if trump wins the presidency. :-)
It won't even be close.  Remember, Obama did not easily win against Mccain or Romney and he had more support from the DNC and "liberals" than any candidate they have ever put up.  It was no easy win at all for him.  Hillary is about the most disliked and hated candidate the Democratic party has ever put up in modern history.  She has ZERO cross over appeal, true liberals hate her and will never vote for her, Republicans have considered her enemy number one for over two decades, Independents want nothing to do with her.  At the end of the day, all she has are blacks, and moron party line voters which are dwindling.  She is not going to gain any support at this point, only lose.  She has to hold on to what she has and hope that is enough.  Trump is only gaining and gaining fast he is.  He is gaining from all sides, Liberals to Conservatives to Independents etc...He does not have to worry at all about losing support like Hillary because that is not happening nor is it going to happen.  We are not even talking about future wikileaks, debates where she will be rattled by Donald and who knows what else happens this cycle.

It simple terms. She is fucked.  Game over.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: WalterWhite on August 02, 2016, 10:18:26 PM
It won't even be close.  Remember, Obama did not easily win against Mccain or Romney and he had more support from the DNC and "liberals" than any candidate they have ever put up.  It was no easy win at all for him.  Hillary is about the most disliked and hated candidate the Democratic party has ever put up in modern history.  She has ZERO cross over appeal, true liberals hate her and will never vote for her, Republicans have considered her enemy number one for over two decades, Independents want nothing to do with her.  At the end of the day, all she has are blacks, and moron party line voters which are dwindling.  She is not going to gain any support at this point, only lose.  She has to hold on to what she has and hope that is enough.  Trump is only gaining and gaining fast he is.  He is gaining from all sides, Liberals to Conservatives to Independents etc...He does not have to worry at all about losing support like Hillary because that is not happening nor is it going to happen.  We are not even talking about future wikileaks, debates where she will be rattled by Donald and who knows what else happens this cycle.

It simple terms. She is fucked.  Game over.

This will be interesting too. Looks like Obama paid cash for the US prisoners.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/us-sent-400-million-in-cash-to-iran-as-prisoners-were-freed-wsj-reports.html
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 02, 2016, 10:21:33 PM
The Cuckold NordicNerd doesn't support Trump. Another good sign  :D
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 02, 2016, 10:29:34 PM
Come on....look at who is "outraged" at what Trump says:

Blowjobama
Hillary
Joe Biden
Nancy Pelosi
Debbie Wasserman Shithead
Pocohontas Warren
Sean Penn(is)
Sarah Silverman
Senile Bernie
Chris Shivers Mathews
Wolf Blitzer
Anderson Cooperalls


So I have to ask.....who gives a shit that these fucking clowns are outraged? The absolute surest reason I ever had to vote for Trump was when Blowjobama came out yesterday trying to trash The Donald.


Exactly.  All the power structure we have such valid complaints against, including the media itself, are opposed to Trump.  Sounds like our best bet.  Thanks for the help, Obama.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: keanu on August 02, 2016, 10:52:36 PM
Hillary is nothing more than a prostitute for the 1 percent. Wall Street is trying their best to push her in by loading up her pockets with cash. So Trump hates Muslims. Good. You want Sharia law in the U.S. as they have 8 kids each and start taking over the population? ;D
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 02, 2016, 10:58:53 PM
It won't even be close.  Remember, Obama did not easily win against Mccain or Romney and he had more support from the DNC and "liberals" than any candidate they have ever put up.  It was no easy win at all for him.  Hillary is about the most disliked and hated candidate the Democratic party has ever put up in modern history.  She has ZERO cross over appeal, true liberals hate her and will never vote for her, Republicans have considered her enemy number one for over two decades, Independents want nothing to do with her.  At the end of the day, all she has are blacks, and moron party line voters which are dwindling.  She is not going to gain any support at this point, only lose.  She has to hold on to what she has and hope that is enough.  Trump is only gaining and gaining fast he is.  He is gaining from all sides, Liberals to Conservatives to Independents etc...He does not have to worry at all about losing support like Hillary because that is not happening nor is it going to happen.  We are not even talking about future wikileaks, debates where she will be rattled by Donald and who knows what else happens this cycle.

It simple terms. She is fucked.  Game over.

Many many of the Bernie supporters will stay home or vote for Jill Stein.  There is no excitement in the black community like there was for Obama.  The free shit army is mostly too lazy to vote.  With Dem turnout down it will not be good for them.  This is a change election after 8 yrs of Obama.  Independents will not break for the status quo which is Hillary.  Now that he has gotten the bible beaters out of the way and the election is not mired in social issues that normally hamstring Republicans like abortion, gays and pot, that leaves the economy (which is shit and is blamed on the incumbent), immigration, national security, guns, etc. all of which favor Trump.  Trump picked Pence in part to make this more of a middle America election.  Hillary's picking Kaine instead of Warren or Julian Castro shows she is scared shitless knowing that she has a huge male gap.  Creepy Kaine is an absolutely terrible pick.  
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: NordicNerd on August 02, 2016, 11:19:08 PM
Thats the thing about these morons.  They think somehow Trump is not being truthful.  He most certainly is.  To lie you have to have intent to lie, knowing that what you are saying is not really in line with what you believe or what you know to be true.

Trump does not lie and is not intending to mislead at all.  Its pretty obvious that he does not have to lie to anyone, has never had to his whole career and has not given any indication that he is going to start....

You may be right in a sense. Trump lies all the time, but he often comes to believe his own lies:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

"Eavesdropping solved the interview problem, but it presented a new one. After hearing Trump’s discussions about business on the phone, Schwartz asked him brief follow-up questions. He then tried to amplify the material he got from Trump by calling others involved in the deals. But their accounts often directly conflicted with Trump’s. “Lying is second nature to him,” Schwartz said. “More than anyone else I have ever met, Trump has the ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true, or sort of true, or at least ought to be true.” Often, Schwartz said, the lies that Trump told him were about money—“how much he had paid for something, or what a building he owned was worth, or how much one of his casinos was earning when it was actually on its way to bankruptcy.” Trump bragged that he paid only eight million dollars for Mar-a-Lago, but omitted that he bought a nearby strip of beach for a record sum. After gossip columns reported, erroneously, that Prince Charles was considering buying several apartments in Trump Tower, Trump implied that he had no idea where the rumor had started. (“It certainly didn’t hurt us,” he says, in “The Art of the Deal.”) Wayne Barrett, a reporter for the Village Voice, later revealed that Trump himself had planted the story with journalists. Schwartz also suspected that Trump engaged in such media tricks, and asked him about a story making the rounds—that Trump often called up news outlets using a pseudonym. Trump didn’t deny it. As Schwartz recalls, he smirked and said, “You like that, do you?”"

NN

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: NordicNerd on August 03, 2016, 02:04:50 AM
I don't really see it as lying.  Lying is implying that there is intent to mislead.  I don't think that is Trump's intentions at all.  People just can't hand someone who is unfiltered.  Weak people, that is.

I find it amazing that an intelligent person such as you could endorse Trump. The man is a crazy pathological liar and he is extremely dangerous. What he said regarding NATO is one of the craziest things any American politicians ever said. So, "perhaps" the US will honour the NATO-pact is what he said!? This equals taking away the doomsday-machine that is NATO. A game of chicken is only safe if both parties know how the other will behave. Now, if Trump becomes president, the Russians may feel that they can get away with seizing the Baltic states, because there is no guaranteed retaliation.

Trump is severely narcissistic, to a degree that he doesn't even care what is true or not. He is above the truth- the truth is what he decides is the truth. May the powers of the Universe help us if he gets control of the US nuclear arsenal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/too-sick-to-lead-the-leth_b_10086768.html

NN
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 03, 2016, 02:28:04 AM
It won't even be close.  ...  It simple terms. She is fucked.  Game over.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

in 2012 53eight was spot on, got the margin in every state but one right.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 03, 2016, 03:23:49 AM
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

in 2012 53eight was spot on, got the margin in every state but one right.

How can anyone who is supposedly an "expert" vote for someone who would choose a running mate in such poor condition. Do you think he has ever done anything physical in his whole life?

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160723132020-clinton-kaine-announcement-0723-super-169.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: _bruce_ on August 03, 2016, 04:40:55 AM
All of them are liars.
Only thing I do not like is that some people think that their candidates, despite obvious fradulent behaviour, do not fall into the  "bracket of the guilty".

I would vote for Trump because of the message sent, not because I think he is such a genuine pro-American nice/tough guy. He may be able to open a Pandora's box and unleash a harsh 180 regarding many touchy subjects which are destroying European nations.

p.s.: The average Joe on the street does more often than not care about the fellow man, so why should millionaires and billionaires who are rubbing elbows with the power elite...
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 04:59:28 AM
I find it amazing that an intelligent person such as you could endorse Trump. The man is a crazy pathological liar and he is extremely dangerous. What he said regarding NATO is one of the craziest things any American politicians ever said. So, "perhaps" the US will honour the NATO-pact is what he said!? This equals taking away the doomsday-machine that is NATO. A game of chicken is only safe if both parties know how the other will behave. Now, if Trump becomes president, the Russians may feel that they can get away with seizing the Baltic states, because there is no guaranteed retaliation.

Trump is severely narcissistic, to a degree that he doesn't even care what is true or not. He is above the truth- the truth is what he decides is the truth. May the powers of the Universe help us if he gets control of the US nuclear arsenal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-north-patterson/too-sick-to-lead-the-leth_b_10086768.html

NN

TA supports a certain agenda that will not be disclosed

suffice it to say this agenda is team freedom approved

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: NordicNerd on August 03, 2016, 05:44:08 AM
All of them are liars.
Only thing I do not like is that some people think that their candidates, despite obvious fradulent behaviour, do not fall into the  "bracket of the guilty".

I would vote for Trump because of the message sent, not because I think he is such a genuine pro-American nice/tough guy. He may be able to open a Pandora's box and unleash a harsh 180 regarding many touchy subjects which are destroying European nations.

p.s.: The average Joe on the street does more often than not care about the fellow man, so why should millionaires and billionaires who are rubbing elbows with the power elite...

I can understand why some would vote Trump based on his anti-islamic rhetoric. I think France, Germany and Sweden has shown the world that islamic immigration may be a genuine threat to our way of life. Maybe a madman is needed to do what is necessary regarding this problem. But in international politics, I fear Trump may create havoc which also may hurt the US in the long run.

NN
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 05:45:50 AM
I can understand why some would vote Trump based on his anti-islamic rhetoric. I think France and Sweden has shown the world that islamic immigration may be a genuine threat to our way of life. Maybe a madman is needed to do what is necessary regarding this problem. But in international politics, I fear Trump may create havoc which also may hurt the US in the long run.

NN

yes indeedy just look at the brexit debacle

madness doesn't really work too good
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 03, 2016, 06:03:14 AM
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

in 2012 53eight was spot on, got the margin in every state but one right.

And in the 2016 Replican primary he got it continually wrong about Trump because he drank the liberal Koolaid and started believing his own spin more than the numbers.  He even wrote a column about why he got it so wrong on Trump.  I watched him continually be wrong and then try to change his polling predictions right before the primary to save face.  His models are grossly wrong.

(https://mobile.twitter.com/dreamedofdust/status/760740071167393792/photo/1)
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 03, 2016, 06:10:16 AM
(http://conservativerepublicannews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Clinton-Propped-NRD-990.jpg)
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SuperTed on August 03, 2016, 06:27:42 AM
Trump is too divisive. He'll just create further social unrest.
Whilst I agree that Islam is a problem, Trump doesn't offer the practical solutions in dealing with it.
Hillary is terrible too as the Democrats seem to be going down the route of being the "SJW" party.

It isn't a good choice.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 03, 2016, 06:54:55 AM
How can anyone who is supposedly an "expert" vote for someone who would choose a running mate in such poor condition. Do you think he has ever done anything physical in his whole life?

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160723132020-clinton-kaine-announcement-0723-super-169.jpg)

Apparently molesting young boys isn't that good of an aerobic workout?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 03, 2016, 08:44:14 AM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rnc-chair-trump-staff-implosion-after-week-of-blunders (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rnc-chair-trump-staff-implosion-after-week-of-blunders)

Long story short:  Team Trump 2016 probably won't make it until the election. 

I see a </meltdown> in the far right soon.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: SaintAnger on August 03, 2016, 08:52:52 AM
This one takes the cake.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-trump-kept-asking-during-foreign-policy-briefing-why-he-cant-just-use-nukes/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-trump-kept-asking-during-foreign-policy-briefing-why-he-cant-just-use-nukes/)  <-- [VIDEO]

According to a report from MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump asked a foreign policy advisor three times during a briefing why he couldn’t just use nuclear weapons to solve the nation’s problems.

Scarborough shared the anecdote on Morning Joe Wednesday, speaking deliberately to avoid naming his source. “I’ll be very careful here. Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on international level went to advise Donald Trump.”

“Three times he asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked, at one point, ‘If we have them, why can’t we use them?'

“That’s one of the reasons why he just doesn’t have foreign policy experts around him,” Scarborough concluded. “Three times, in an hour briefing, ‘Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?'
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 03, 2016, 08:59:45 AM
yes indeedy just look at the brexit debacle

madness doesn't really work too good

The only debacle was the EU. Britain is on the path to recovery hopefully.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thespritz0 on August 03, 2016, 09:00:08 AM
That's funny......we are talking about lying and the Clintons.

Lying and Bill and Hillary Clinton. Two of the most manipulative liars politics has ever seen.

And the MSM has fake outrage and concern that Trump isn't 100% truthful.

Holy shit on a hypocritical piece of toast.
^^
EVERYONE needs to see this:  How many people (men and women) did Bill Clinton have killed by his Arkansas State Trooper buddies in the 1990's???
I wish all "Hillary" fans watch this one!!!  
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 03, 2016, 09:01:47 AM
I thoroughly enjoy the fact that the ignorant leftists who vehemently defended the "misunderstood religion of peace" just a year ago are now admitting "Islam might be an issue".... hahahahahahhahahahahahah ahahhahahahahahaha!! 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 03, 2016, 09:04:25 AM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rnc-chair-trump-staff-implosion-after-week-of-blunders (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rnc-chair-trump-staff-implosion-after-week-of-blunders)

Long story short:  Team Trump 2016 probably won't make it until the election.  

I see a </meltdown> in the far right soon.

August is a dead month. Everyone is on vacation and not giving a shit about politics. Polls, at this point, are meaningless. September is when shit gets real.

There's not gonna be an implosion when there's nothing even going on, regardless of what a useless Liberal blogger says.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 03, 2016, 09:08:21 AM
I thoroughly enjoy the fact that the ignorant leftists who vehemently defended the "misunderstood religion of peace" just a year ago are now admitting "Islam might be an issue".... hahahahahahhahahahahahah ahahhahahahahahaha!! 

I thought this was completely well known.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 03, 2016, 09:11:41 AM
I thoroughly enjoy the fact that the ignorant leftists who vehemently defended the "misunderstood religion of peace" just a year ago are now admitting "Islam might be an issue".... hahahahahahhahahahahahah ahahhahahahahahaha!! 

The Orlando shooting was an eye opener. It's one thing when Gays in Iran get thrown off buildings, but when it happens here...
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2016, 09:25:00 AM
This one takes the cake.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-trump-kept-asking-during-foreign-policy-briefing-why-he-cant-just-use-nukes/ (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/report-trump-kept-asking-during-foreign-policy-briefing-why-he-cant-just-use-nukes/)  <-- [VIDEO]

According to a report from MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump asked a foreign policy advisor three times during a briefing why he couldn’t just use nuclear weapons to solve the nation’s problems.

Scarborough shared the anecdote on Morning Joe Wednesday, speaking deliberately to avoid naming his source. “I’ll be very careful here. Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on international level went to advise Donald Trump.”

“Three times he asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked, at one point, ‘If we have them, why can’t we use them?'

“That’s one of the reasons why he just doesn’t have foreign policy experts around him,” Scarborough concluded. “Three times, in an hour briefing, ‘Why can’t we use nuclear weapons?'

Trump often thinks being GREAT = making the biggest impact at all times.  This isn't always the case.  Sometimes greatness is just shutting up and being smart while others step in shit.   That's why trump is happy with ANY press, even if it's bad press.  Cause theyr'e still giving him attention, still getting that impact, still 'great'. 

Does trump think the greatest president is the one with the biggest impact?  Using nukes would certainly do that.

he wouldn't rule out using nukes in Europe.  Kinda a small place to unleash a nuke, particularly when we have other weapons that can easily kill that many people, without that pesky radiation and inhabitable thing.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: _bruce_ on August 03, 2016, 09:48:15 AM
I can understand why some would vote Trump based on his anti-islamic rhetoric. I think France, Germany and Sweden has shown the world that islamic immigration may be a genuine threat to our way of life. Maybe a madman is needed to do what is necessary regarding this problem. But in international politics, I fear Trump may create havoc which also may hurt the US in the long run.

NN

If he cares about the US he should slowly but steadily retreat from the middle east. Should he instead further aggrevate the situation then he's an obvious phoney as America has been severly weakened with all these small scale wars of attrition.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 03, 2016, 09:53:12 AM
I can understand why some would vote Trump based on his anti-islamic rhetoric. I think France, Germany and Sweden has shown the world that islamic immigration may be a genuine threat to our way of life. Maybe a madman is needed to do what is necessary regarding this problem. But in international politics, I fear Trump may create havoc which also may hurt the US in the long run.

NN


Trump is too divisive. He'll just create further social unrest.
Whilst I agree that Islam is a problem, Trump doesn't offer the practical solutions in dealing with it.
Hillary is terrible too as the Democrats seem to be going down the route of being the "SJW" party.

It isn't a good choice.

I agree that Trump is the answer to the Islamic takeover, but I'm not so sure everyone else in the general population backs it. Hillary is just a bad person.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: NordicNerd on August 03, 2016, 09:55:32 AM
I thoroughly enjoy the fact that the ignorant leftists who vehemently defended the "misunderstood religion of peace" just a year ago are now admitting "Islam might be an issue".... hahahahahahhahahahahahah ahahhahahahahahaha!! 

Islam and middle-eastern culture represents perhaps the most formidable problem for leftists ever seen. I have found that a common trait in Norwegian leftists is that they will defend minorities and the oppressed, no matter what. Within their own social circle, it is social suicide to be perceived as negative towards immigrants and minority groups. One could even say that the attitude is "a brown person is a good person". However, when these immigrants from Arab countries oppress women, the leftists encounter cognitive dissonance and are unable to act. An oppressed minority group oppressing another oppressed group- stalemate. This leads to the fascinating paradox that leftist women are in favor of an immigration policy that will be catastrophic with regard to their own freedom and women's right struggle.

One may argue that this narrative ignores the fact that people should always be treated as individuals and that stereotyping is wrong. I find this view hard to defend when viewed in light of the German new-years eve events where 100s of women were harassed and groped by large groups of North-African immigrants, in several cities independently and when freedom of speech suffers due to death-threats. We are clearly dealing with problems that can be reduced to identifiable groups related to culture and religion.

NN

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 10:45:59 AM
The only debacle was the EU. Britain is on the path to recovery hopefully.

pray hard

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-aftermath-of-the-brexit-vote-a-verdict-from-those-of-those-experts-were-not-supposed-to-listen-to/
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 12:35:41 PM

Donald is out of control right now and he's not listening to anyone





 :D
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 12:57:22 PM
obama calls out republicans over their endorsement



so ofcourse they cannot give in to obama and dump him now!

checkmate

 :D

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2016, 01:39:55 PM
obama calls out republicans over their endorsement
so ofcourse they cannot give in to obama and dump him now!
checkmate
 :D

yeah, I think obama is 'in on it' when it comes to the hilary plant thing with trump.

The one moment when it's finally clear cover for Repubs to DUMP TRUMP and then Obama tells them to do it.   The one chance the party has to drop trump and find someone - and now it's obama's idea to do so.


The dems really are playing this election artfully.  Best GOP field in history - I mean, ten of them would have been fine presidents.   And the lib media made trump the bad guy, so the tea party supported him no matter what he said.    Now, when the entire GOP realizes trump is trying to lose, Obama makes it so dumping Trump now = obeying the president they all hate.

good observation, man.  It's artful.   Repubs gotta be so pissed.  Especially when "libs" like us were telling them all along - trump is a dem plant here to wreck your party and install hilary as POTUS. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 02:04:02 PM
yeah, I think obama is 'in on it' when it comes to the hilary plant thing with trump.

The one moment when it's finally clear cover for Repubs to DUMP TRUMP and then Obama tells them to do it.   The one chance the party has to drop trump and find someone - and now it's obama's idea to do so.


The dems really are playing this election artfully.  Best GOP field in history - I mean, ten of them would have been fine presidents.   And the lib media made trump the bad guy, so the tea party supported him no matter what he said.    Now, when the entire GOP realizes trump is trying to lose, Obama makes it so dumping Trump now = obeying the president they all hate.

good observation, man.  It's artful.   Repubs gotta be so pissed.  Especially when "libs" like us were telling them all along - trump is a dem plant here to wreck your party and install hilary as POTUS.  

yes they're navigating this process very impressively

can't wait to see what happens next!

HEY TRUE ADONIS I ASK YOU AGAIN!

WHEN WILL YOU BE WITHDRAWING YOUR SUPPORT OF TRUMP!?

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 02:20:26 PM
Obama is the only one who can go toe to toe with trump from an oratorical and news making perspective

we all know hillary isn't a very compelling speaker

word is he will be deployed aggressively in this regard

I can see them wheeling out Bill too when it comes time to finish the job
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 02:56:03 PM
yeah, I think obama is 'in on it' when it comes to the hilary plant thing with trump.

The one moment when it's finally clear cover for Repubs to DUMP TRUMP and then Obama tells them to do it.   The one chance the party has to drop trump and find someone - and now it's obama's idea to do so.


The dems really are playing this election artfully.  Best GOP field in history - I mean, ten of them would have been fine presidents.   And the lib media made trump the bad guy, so the tea party supported him no matter what he said.    Now, when the entire GOP realizes trump is trying to lose, Obama makes it so dumping Trump now = obeying the president they all hate.

good observation, man.  It's artful.   Repubs gotta be so pissed.  Especially when "libs" like us were telling them all along - trump is a dem plant here to wreck your party and install hilary as POTUS.  

you  can add ari fleischer to the list of folks who see the way trump is avoiding hillary and hurting himself.

"He is such a good counter puncher that he is knocking himself out," Fleischer said on CNN's "New Day." "If he would focus on Hillary, if he'd focus on the economy, if he'd talk (President Barack) Obama and we don't want a third term, he could win this race. He's hurting himself and hurting the cause."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/donald-trump-campaign-disarray/

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 03, 2016, 03:53:01 PM
The one moment when it's finally clear cover for Repubs to DUMP TRUMP and then Obama tells them to do it.   The one chance the party has to drop trump and find someone - and now it's obama's idea to do so.

the rules for replacing a candidate differs in each state. Virtually impossible to do so in many, deadline to do so in some states already passed.  Replacing Trump would guarantee Clinton a win, but may stop the blood bath down ballot.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 03, 2016, 05:16:21 PM
obama calls out republicans over their endorsement



so ofcourse they cannot give in to obama and dump him now!

checkmate

 :D



#1 reason to vote for Trump is because Obama thinks he's bad for the country
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2016, 05:38:04 PM
#1 reason to vote for Trump is because Obama thinks he's bad for the country

i believe obama was doing what he could to KEEP trump afloat, forcing the base to double down on stupid with trump.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 03, 2016, 05:41:13 PM
i believe obama was doing what he could to KEEP trump afloat, forcing the base to double down on stupid with trump.

Sure....because that tobey has been such a brilliant strategist to date.

His mother is a mudshark
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 03, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
This shit is like a football game. The lead can change hands several times over the course of the game.

Trump was ahead in the polls just a week ago, but, now that Hillary gets her Convention bounce, all the "Helpful" people want Trump to drop out.

"Donald Trump bounces into the lead
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director

Updated 6:50 PM ET, Mon July 25, 2016"



With such little support, It makes you wonder how he ever beat the SIXTEEN other Republican Candidates.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 03, 2016, 06:18:49 PM
This shit is like a football game. The lead can change hands several times over the course of the game.

Trump was ahead in the polls just a week ago, but, now that Hillary gets her Convention bounce, all the "Helpful" people want Trump to drop out.

"Donald Trump bounces into the lead
By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director

Updated 6:50 PM ET, Mon July 25, 2016"



With such little support, It makes you wonder how he ever beat the SIXTEEN other Republican Candidates.

Trump won't lead the RCP Poll Average at anytime the rest of the way.

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2016, 06:42:32 PM
Trump won't lead the RCP Poll Average at anytime the rest of the way.

you're probably right.  That'd be the 2008 model all over again.  Mccain led when he made the Palin announcement.  15 days later, it was over and obama's lead never faltered. 
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 03, 2016, 07:37:08 PM
you're probably right.  That'd be the 2008 model all over again.  Mccain led when he made the Palin announcement.  15 days later, it was over and obama's lead never faltered. 

$400,000,000 ransom paid by Obama to the Aayatollahs to allow them to continue to fund terrorists

The MSM couldn't get that piece of news off the front page quick enough today.

Tell me now the muzzball in the White House doesn't answer to the Middle Eastern scum now
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 03, 2016, 07:51:50 PM
Trump won't lead the RCP Poll Average at anytime the rest of the way.
RCP is silly, a collection of various shill polls that over sample Dems and under sample independents whenever they want.  Also why average likely voter and registered voter polls?  That's averaging apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 03, 2016, 07:57:02 PM
RCP is silly, a collection of various shill polls that over sample Dems and under sample independents whenever they want.  Also why average likely voter and registered voter polls?  That's averaging apples and oranges.

The MSM wants focus on the polls and Kzhir Kahn, that way they won't have to report that Obama has presided over the worst economy over the last 7 years as any president in history.

The worst economic president in history and barely a mention by the MSM
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2016, 08:57:23 PM
$400,000,000 ransom paid by Obama to the Aayatollahs to allow them to continue to fund terrorists
The MSM couldn't get that piece of news off the front page quick enough today.
Tell me now the muzzball in the White House doesn't answer to the Middle Eastern scum now

i was the one who posted on the getbig poli board about this - I think it's disgusting. 

Why do you automatically assume, because I shit on Trump, that I somehow support Obama's bullshit bribing of Iran?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 03, 2016, 08:58:19 PM
RCP is silly, a collection of various shill polls that over sample Dems and under sample independents whenever they want.  Also why average likely voter and registered voter polls?  That's averaging apples and oranges.

True.  But they're also pretty accurate when it comes to predicting presidential elections too.

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 03, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
i was the one who posted on the getbig poli board about this - I think it's disgusting. 

Why do you automatically assume, because I shit on Trump, that I somehow support Obama's bullshit bribing of Iran?
I have no idea why you shit on  Trump. But you have become a damn broken record so why not contribute something positive to a Bodybuilding site?  
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 03, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
i was the one who posted on the getbig poli board about this - I think it's disgusting. 

Why do you automatically assume, because I shit on Trump, that I somehow support Obama's bullshit bribing of Iran?

I don't....

You're too busy coming up with insane conspiracy theories
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 03, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
True.  But they're also pretty accurate when it comes to predicting presidential elections too.

They are accurate just like Nate Silver was accurate on Trump in the primaries?  First they change their polling to likely voters some time later in the political season, why not now?  And then when it gets super close they do some revisions and get it right within the margin of error, which is usually so wide that in an anywhere close election just means a coin toss.  Their predictions' accuracy is only measured from a day or two before.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 03, 2016, 11:22:31 PM
#1 reason to vote for Trump is because Obama thinks he's bad for the country

as 240 stated

that's exactly the intention,

obama knows republicans must oppose everything he does.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 04, 2016, 12:17:29 AM
bottom line

trump is not mentally ill

this is being pushed by the GOP as a reason to get rid of him

he knows exactly what he's doing as he heads full speed into the ditch

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Nails on August 04, 2016, 10:16:12 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-handprint-size_us_57a23518e4b0104052a0cf68?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-handprint-size_us_57a23518e4b0104052a0cf68?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063)



Finally, There’s Proof That Donald Trump Has Small Hands
He has smaller hands than 85 percent of American men.


Are Trump’s hands really that tiny? No ― at 7.25 inches long, they’re slightly smaller than average.

However, the majority of American men have larger hands, according to neuroscientist Justin Kiggins, who pointed to a chart from an Ergonomics Center of North Carolina report for proof.


(https://html1-f.scribdassets.com/8w6xr5hqkg5dvvvj/images/1-c52d29fc30.jpg)

Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2016, 10:18:04 AM
They are accurate just like Nate Silver was accurate on Trump in the primaries?  First they change their polling to likely voters some time later in the political season, why not now?  And then when it gets super close they do some revisions and get it right within the margin of error, which is usually so wide that in an anywhere close election just means a coin toss.  Their predictions' accuracy is only measured from a day or two before.

Nate silver was wrong about trump - but his polling about trump at the time was accurate.  Nate got cute and tried to predict shit a year away.

I'm talking about the polls themselves, week by week - they're very accurate.  When they say Obama will win by 5 points, he does.   If Polls show Hilary has a 7 point lead the week of the election, she will win by 6 to 8 points.  That's just how it is now.

Repubs always use the "nate was wrong when he predicted trump loses a year ahead of time" example to prove all polls wrong.  It's just not true
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 04, 2016, 11:00:06 AM
Of late, though, the Trump-polls friendship has fallen on hard times. Very hard times.

He's down 17 points to Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire. Down 11 in Pennsylvania. Down six in Michigan. And national polling is no better. A Fox News survey out Wednesday night had Trump down 10 to Clinton. That's consistent with the post-conventions landscape in lots of polls released over the past five days.


(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/files/2016/08/FoxPoll_2_RCP2.jpg&w=1484)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/04/donald-trump-just-lost-his-best-friend/

 ???
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 04, 2016, 12:40:14 PM
Remember, it is the electoral vote that counts.  Based on population each state gets a number of winner take all votes. California 55, Texas 38, New York 29, Florida 29, ... South Dakota 3.   Except for Texas, all the populous states lean Democratic, all the empty states lean Republican.

All you need is 270 to win.  Safe states for any Democrat adds up to 240.  Safe states for any normal Republican is 100.   This year I bet Clinton gets over 400.  If Trump continues to crash, Clinton could get 500, even all 538.

Trump keeps offending women and minorities.  If 80% of women and minorities vote for Clinton, and 80% of white men vote for Trump, Clinton wins all 538 electoral votes.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
if trump is losing by 15 points in a state - then repubs in that state for local, gov, state rep and senate seats are going to miss a lot of votes too
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 04, 2016, 12:44:49 PM
Remember, it is the electoral vote that counts.  Based on population each state gets a number of winner take all votes. California 55, Texas 38, New York 29, Florida 29, ... South Dakota 3.   Except for Texas, all the populous states lean Democratic, all the empty states lean Republican.

All you need is 270 to win.  Safe states for any Democrat adds up to 240.  Safe states for any normal Republican is 100.   This year I bet Clinton gets over 400.  If Trump continues to crash, Clinton could get 500, even all 538.

Trump keeps offending women and minorities.  If 80% of women and minorities vote for Clinton, and 80% of white men vote for Trump, Clinton wins all 538 electoral votes.

Which isn't going to happen, let's face it.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 04, 2016, 12:47:34 PM
Trump is a Clinton plant, as 240 has been saying the whole time.  As of now, I believe it as well as it can be believed, which is pretty thoroughly.  Whether or not Trump fully understands it is another story.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 04, 2016, 12:54:13 PM
"As Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's verbal gaffes have mounted and his penchant for lashing out at his political opponents has continued to escalate, it's become in vogue for critics to earnestly raise questions about Trump's temperament and his mental stability."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-mental-state-becoming-campaign-talking-point-n621556
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 04, 2016, 01:01:44 PM
Remember, it is the electoral vote that counts.  Based on population each state gets a number of winner take all votes. California 55, Texas 38, New York 29, Florida 29, ... South Dakota 3.   Except for Texas, all the populous states lean Democratic, all the empty states lean Republican.

All you need is 270 to win.  Safe states for any Democrat adds up to 240.  Safe states for any normal Republican is 100.   This year I bet Clinton gets over 400.  If Trump continues to crash, Clinton could get 500, even all 538.

Epic lesson in U.S. Presidential Elections for the "Trump is gonna win in a landslide" true believers.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 04, 2016, 01:06:13 PM
"As Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump's verbal gaffes have mounted and his penchant for lashing out at his political opponents has continued to escalate, it's become in vogue for critics to earnestly raise questions about Trump's temperament and his mental stability."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-s-mental-state-becoming-campaign-talking-point-n621556

Anyone taking NBC's word for anything, should get a mental-health evaluation.  (not you, Prime)
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 04, 2016, 01:28:09 PM
Epic lesson in U.S. Presidential Elections for the "Trump is gonna win in a landslide" true believers.

Makes you wonder how Republicans managed to win 5 out of the last 9.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: tom joad on August 04, 2016, 01:33:55 PM
Makes you wonder how Republicans managed to win 5 out of the last 9.

yeah, thank god the demographics of the U.S. haven't changed in the past 36 years, and the rednecks ain't dying out ...
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 04, 2016, 01:54:08 PM
Makes you wonder how Republicans managed to win 5 out of the last 9.

they actually lost the popular vote in 2000.

and as I've written before, Dixiecrats (1960-70s) -> Reagan Democrats (1980s) -> Republicans (1990s) -> Tea Party (2000s)-> Trump supporters (2010s)
(that is older white males) are dying out. 

Young people, even young whites, are overwhelmingly Democratic.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 04, 2016, 02:03:29 PM
they actually lost the popular vote in 2000.

and as I've written before, Dixiecrats (1960-70s) -> Reagan Democrats (1980s) -> Republicans (1990s) -> Tea Party (2000s)-> Trump supporters (2010s)
(that is older white males) are dying out.  

Young people, even young whites, are overwhelmingly Democratic.

Which means Globalist, which means Neocon.

So how do you explain this, Tim?  Looks like the neocons won.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2016, 02:07:06 PM
Makes you wonder how Republicans managed to win 5 out of the last 9.

In the last 6 elections -

4 have been comfy dem wins
2 have been repub wins by a single contest state with lawsuits, could have gone either way.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 04, 2016, 02:09:06 PM
Globalist may be very correct, but I think there is something different here.
Most young people don't think about the pragmatism of everything, they think about "social justice" or some other such stuff.

I'm not saying it's right, but that's what it is.
Young people are trying to save the world or help people. They are trying to make life "fair", even though that's not the real world.

Young people think about social issues, not necessarily other things. Social issues, ie saving people, treating people fairly, equality, anti-bigotry. All of that stuff has been locked up by the Democrats from a verbal standpoint. (They are "saying" they are the party of equality)

That is why young people are overwhelmingly voting for the Democrats.

The Democrats are saying some good things and the young people eat it up.

The opposite is saying terrible things (even if truthful at times) and young people don't like it.

Difference in philosophy I guess, but we are all getting older and they are not. That doesn't make them right of course.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 04, 2016, 02:10:02 PM
they actually lost the popular vote in 2000.

and as I've written before, Dixiecrats (1960-70s) -> Reagan Democrats (1980s) -> Republicans (1990s) -> Tea Party (2000s)-> Trump supporters (2010s)
(that is older white males) are dying out. 

Young people, even young whites, are overwhelmingly Democratic.
Its changing in the opposite direction.  People are tired of your PC bullshit and the new party of perpetual victimhood, restriction and intolerance.  Dumbocrats have really went batshit and are more like the weirdo Evangelicals in nature that used to rule the GOP.  The GOP is changing into a party more based on reason and logic.  The Dumbocrats have gone batshit with their Muslim love, White Guilt, BLM loving, Gun hating, lawlessness.

Its pathetic.  I bet you support a Sugar and Soda tax even.  Pathetic!  Party of limit your personal freedoms.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 04, 2016, 02:12:14 PM
Its changing in the opposite direction.  People are tired of your PC bullshit and the new party of perpetual victimhood, restriction and intolerance.  Dumbocrats have really went batshit and are more like the weirdo Evangelicals in nature that used to rule the GOP.  The GOP is changing into a party more based on reason and logic.  The Dumbocrats have gone batshit with their Muslim love, White Guilt, BLM loving, Gun hating, lawlessness.

Its pathetic.  I bet you support a Sugar and Soda tax even.  Pathetic!  Party of limit your personal freedoms.

I thought this was the Libertarians?

The GOP still refuses to acknowledge the failed war on Drugs. Refuses to stop worrying about abortion. Stuff like that in regards to the base.

Trump won the evangelical vote by a HUGE percentage. As a matter of fact, some believe the Evangelicals put him into the top spot.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 04, 2016, 02:13:16 PM
This is what the 2012 Election looked like County by County.

It really is not that fair when you think about it, that places like New York and California can dictate how the nation is run.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/2012_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg/2000px-2012_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg.png)
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 04, 2016, 02:13:29 PM
Globalist may be very correct, but I think there is something different here.
Most young people don't think about the pragmatism of everything, they think about "social justice" or some other such stuff.

I'm not saying it's right, but that's what it is.
Young people are trying to save the world or help people. They are trying to make life "fair", even though that's not the real world.

Young people think about social issues, not necessarily other things. Social issues, ie saving people, treating people fairly, equality, anti-bigotry. All of that stuff has been locked up by the Democrats from a verbal standpoint. (They are "saying" they are the party of equality)

That is why young people are overwhelmingly voting for the Democrats.

The Democrats are saying some good things and the young people eat it up.

The opposite is saying terrible things (even if truthful at times) and young people don't like it.

Difference in philosophy I guess, but we are all getting older and they are not. That doesn't make them right of course.

Neocons dumbed all the kids into a daze and took their candy, by the looks of it.  But the kids are so fucked up with stupidity, they can't describe the perp.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 04, 2016, 02:16:27 PM
This is what the 2012 Election looked like County by County.

It really is not that fair when you think about it, that places like New York and California can dictate how the nation is run.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/2012_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg/2000px-2012_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg.png)

This is true, but that's also the breakdown of the population of the country. Rarely, VERY rarely does the popular vote not coincide with the electoral college and change the election.

Yes, that land area is a lot of red, but there are very few people that live in those red areas typically. It's not set in stone, but still, the popular vote is still the "popular" vote.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: 240 is Back on August 04, 2016, 02:20:23 PM
Those poll numbers are going to start to affect fundraising.  Trump had a good month - and hilary raised just as much despite the peak of her indictment talk & bernie supporter hate.

Now she's the clear frontrunner, everyone is sucking up because she's looking like the likely winner.

Trump is looking erratic, confidence in him is definitely down.  That means August donations are going to suck.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 04, 2016, 02:20:31 PM
This is true, but that's also the breakdown of the population of the country. Rarely, VERY rarely does the popular vote not coincide with the electoral college and change the election.

Yes, that land area is a lot of red, but there are very few people that live in those red areas typically. It's not set in stone, but still, the popular vote is still the "popular" vote.
Which is bullshit really.  States really should have more power as the population and way of life is so diverse from state to state.  
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Las Vegas on August 04, 2016, 02:21:15 PM
This nation is going to pay, hard.  Beat down city.  All hell to break loose.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 04, 2016, 02:25:13 PM
Which is bullshit really.  States really should have more power as the population and way of life is so diverse from state to state.  

No argument with that. A part of me actually wonders if the end of the Civil War shouldn't have just been a split from the north and the south.

I don't know if that is the right thing, I really have mixed feelings on it, but if people can choose to live in a location that best fits their beliefs and most closely aligns with their thought processes, perhaps it would have been for the best.

That said, I doubt either nation would have singularly been as prosperous as the "Union" together has been over the past 150 years.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 04, 2016, 02:46:24 PM
No argument with that. A part of me actually wonders if the end of the Civil War shouldn't have just been a split from the north and the south.

I don't know if that is the right thing, I really have mixed feelings on it, but if people can choose to live in a location that best fits their beliefs and most closely aligns with their thought processes, perhaps it would have been for the best.

That said, I doubt either nation would have singularly been as prosperous as the "Union" together has been over the past 150 years.

Here is one possibility...
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 04, 2016, 02:55:44 PM
Here is one possibility...

Ultimately, the real question I would have with that map, at least today, would be how long would slavery have been maintained in those states.?

At some point, they would need to trade with the rest of the world, and their ability to continue to trade with the other nations would clash with a desire to maintain any slavery.

My next question would be how would WW2 have played out without a singular "United States of America" as we knew it to be in 1941.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 04, 2016, 03:36:25 PM
Ultimately, the real question I would have with that map, at least today, would be how long would slavery have been maintained in those states.?

At some point, they would need to trade with the rest of the world, and their ability to continue to trade with the other nations would clash with a desire to maintain any slavery.

My next question would be how would WW2 have played out without a singular "United States of America" as we knew it to be in 1941.
The Confederate Constitution banned the overseas slave trade, and permitted Confederate states to abolish slavery within their borders if they wanted to do so.  They were moving to do this before Lincoln decided to invade.

At the height of slavery, more blacks per capita owned slaves than whites.  Interesting fact that nobody ever gets taught.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 04, 2016, 03:51:40 PM
The Confederate Constitution banned the overseas slave trade, and permitted Confederate states to abolish slavery within their borders if they wanted to do so.  They were moving to do this before Lincoln decided to invade.

At the height of slavery, more blacks per capita owned slaves than whites.  Interesting fact that nobody ever gets taught.

I am aware.

I am simply inquiring as to when would slavery have been abolished none the less.

It doesn't really answer the question about WW2 and the US military machine, but I agree that it may have been much ado about nothing shortly after 1865 anyway.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 04, 2016, 03:52:50 PM
Which is bullshit really.  States really should have more power as the population and way of life is so diverse from state to state.  

denounce the demagogue and withdraw your support immediately
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 04, 2016, 04:01:39 PM
Its changing in the opposite direction.  People are tired of your PC bullshit and the new party of perpetual victimhood, restriction and intolerance.  

x2
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 04, 2016, 04:18:36 PM
x2

Yes, but the polls say...


Oh, wait:

EU referendum polls: Final ComRes poll shows significant lead for Remain | UK Politics | News | The Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-poll-final-brexit-comres-yougov-opinium-tns-survey-remain-leave-live-result-a7096316.html
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: mr.turbo on August 04, 2016, 04:53:25 PM


 :D
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 04, 2016, 05:08:53 PM
It really is not that fair when you think about it, that places like New York and California can dictate how the nation is run.

big map at http://visualeconsite.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ams-usa-population.png
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on August 04, 2016, 05:19:44 PM
It really is not that fair when you think about it, that places like New York and California can dictate how the nation is run.

High population density (people living in crowded conditions like animals) has been shown to breed perverse thinking.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 04, 2016, 06:12:46 PM
High population density (people living in crowded conditions like animals) has been shown to breed perverse thinking.

High population density leads to communal thinking.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: The True Adonis on August 04, 2016, 07:14:56 PM
High population density leads to communal thinking.
Really?  Whats so communal about Chicago and their crime rate.  Tell us.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2016, 11:01:03 AM
This is what the 2012 Election looked like County by County.

It really is not that fair when you think about it, that places like New York and California can dictate how the nation is run.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8d/2012_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg/2000px-2012_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg.png)


People vote, not counties.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2016, 11:03:43 AM
Which is bullshit really.  States really should have more power as the population and way of life is so diverse from state to state.  

Are you suggesting we should dispense with the popular vote?
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: timfogarty on August 05, 2016, 11:45:05 AM
Are you suggesting we should dispense with the popular vote?

Not sure what you mean.  The popular vote at the national level doesn't count.  Gore won the popular vote in 2000.

the way things are now, with each state getting a minimum of 3 electoral votes (one for each senator and member of congress), the low population states get more of a voice.

Wyoming 1 electoral vote for each 195 thousand people
California 1 electoral vote for each 705 thousand people

now population is not the same as eligible voters

Wyoming has 209k registered voters at this moment, so each electoral vote represents 69.6k voters
California has 17.7m registered voters, so each electoral vote represents 321.8k voters
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2016, 12:08:20 PM
Essentially, you are correct. Here is a more detailed explanation:

How the Electoral College Works

The current workings of the Electoral College are the result of both design and experience. As it now operates:

Occasionally questions arise about what would happen if the pesidential or vice presidential candidate died at some point in this process.For answers to these, as well as to a number of other "what if" questions, readers are advised to consult a small volume entitled After the People Vote: Steps in Choosing the President edited by Walter Berns and published in 1983 by the American Enterprise Institute. Similarly, further details on the history and current functioning of the Electoral College are available in the second edition of Congressional Quarterly's Guide to U.S. Elections, a real goldmine of information, maps, and statistics.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: TuHolmes on August 05, 2016, 01:14:47 PM
Not sure what you mean.  The popular vote at the national level doesn't count.  Gore won the popular vote in 2000.

the way things are now, with each state getting a minimum of 3 electoral votes (one for each senator and member of congress), the low population states get more of a voice.

Wyoming 1 electoral vote for each 195 thousand people
California 1 electoral vote for each 705 thousand people

now population is not the same as eligible voters

Wyoming has 209k registered voters at this moment, so each electoral vote represents 69.6k voters
California has 17.7m registered voters, so each electoral vote represents 321.8k voters

His statement was around how county lines to make individual votes.

People do. 

So while there may be more red counties. For the most recent elections on a national level, there have been more blue people so to speak.
Title: Re: Is Trump mentally ill?
Post by: Primemuscle on August 05, 2016, 06:57:45 PM
His statement was around how county lines to make individual votes.

People do. 

So while there may be more red counties. For the most recent elections on a national level, there have been more blue people so to speak.

Blue people makes me think of the Blue Meanies from the Beatles song Yellow Submarine.  :)