Author Topic: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James (Read 21876 times)

buffalo · « **Reply #50 on:** February 15, 2006, 05:28:38 PM »

Quote from: Acerimmer1 on February 15, 2006, 03:16:28 PM

"Brighton Beach" Be afraid, be very afraid

Oh yeah!

shockandawe · « **Reply #51 on:** February 16, 2006, 08:35:05 AM »

I aim to please!

buffbodz · « **Reply #52 on:** February 16, 2006, 10:51:31 AM »

Quote from: Ron on February 11, 2006, 10:28:15 AM

I would like to see those court documents.
Sources have said that there was no taser gun found in the house.
Sources have said that there is no proof from the proesuctors that Melissa was tasered, and the detectives admit that.
Sources have said that Titus & Ryan did not say to anyone that they tasered Melissa.
Sources have said that the paper got it from the motion documents, which the prosecuters theories this.
What they did say is that the taser gun they found was used six times - but they don't know who used the taser gun.
I will try to find out more - and I am just being objective on this - but given the nature of that statement - would you not give some proof from the court documents instead of just declaring a statement like that.
But if yo umust know, and many people know this - a lot of these things coming out - I have known for weeks.

Right. It dosen't say where the tazer was found or who's it was. Just that a tazer was used, but on who, or by whome?

240 is Back · « **Reply #53 on:** February 16, 2006, 11:19:03 AM »

Quote from: Shawn Ray on February 14, 2006, 06:13:14 PM

Thanks Ron, I almost Puked but your post save the day for when I finally see what this 240 Punk looks like, then I know I'll lose my Cookies!

Yes... but... at least 240 never slept with Sasha Ogata...

buffbodz · « **Reply #54 on:** February 16, 2006, 11:36:30 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on February 16, 2006, 11:19:03 AM

Yes... but... at least 240 never slept with Sasha Ogata...

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #55 on:** February 16, 2006, 12:12:08 PM »

That's not what He/ She said

Well, He/ She did say, you guyz didn't actually SLEEP Together, guess that will come later

stuntmovie · « **Reply #56 on:** February 16, 2006, 08:12:55 PM »

Saw a T-shirt on a lady in the gym today with Craig's picture on it and the following statement below it.

IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL THE FAT GUY SINGS!

I laffed and she said that I was the only one who understood it so far.

Sorry

Shawn Ray · « **Reply #57 on:** February 16, 2006, 08:14:03 PM »

Ron · « **Reply #58 on:** February 16, 2006, 10:30:04 PM »

It has been an incredible busy days the last few weeks, but I will comment back on this before I go to the Ironman.

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So, look at it from my perspective, or from the perspective of anyone who reads this stuff and comments: You do appear bias 9 times out of 10 and often appear to have some kind of agenda

Agenda – I tell you what my agenda is. My agenda is to have a place where people interested in bodybuilding and fitness can come – a place to see magazines, contest results and history, pictures, interviews, and anything related. Especially news in the bodybuilding world. And guess that – the Titus & Ryan case is big news – perhaps one of the biggest events last year and the beginning of this year. And with that – people want to know what happened. Objectively. Biased. Why? Because I would like to see statements and reports before? Hmm…

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And you're forgetting that no one in the mainstream gives a crap about C&K or anyone else in bodybuilding,

Actually – I did not forget that. The site is and was always meant for people interesting in bodybuilding and fitness. Illusions of mainstream will not happen as the focus is to stay on bodybuilding and fitness.

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In fact, in my last 7 or 8 month journalistic exchange with Titus, I felt my life was in danger, so it really ceased to be fun, to be honest with you.

In all the times of I have talked to Craig and Kelly, I never felt my life was in danger, and still don’t. I am sorry that you did.

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and despite my strained relations with C&K since 2000, I am also not doing it out of some misguided vendetta or to slam them. That's why I know my motives are pure. I feel no hatred, nor do I feel any need to be someone's savior.

Actually, speaking to some people, you and Craig had a major falling out. why do you hate him so much?

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Ron, all that matters in this life is that you know that yours are pure at any given juncture.

Balance is important in life – make sure you have it – balance between work, family, and fun.

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I just know that I asked you for a small amount of your help because it would have been easy to give me what I asked for, and would have saved me time...

You asked for a confidential list and phone numbers of many people, whom I am not sure would appreciate me giving that out. You worked for a bodybuilding magazine, you have more contacts, or better yet, you could write something, and I would gladly use Getbig.com on whatever you need to help the James family, as I have done in the past.

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But I am entitled to my impressions, and I'm not alone in how these things were perceived - others said they wanted to barf seeing some of the things you've allowed to be in print, too,

I am happy that I provide a forum for you, and others. If anyone wants to write something on this case, or help the James family, I am all for it. You are entitled to your opinion.

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I will renew that I just happen to find it UTTERLY REPUGNANT that someone would discuss Kelly's hair… You posted it without editing, so I just commented on it.

And if you write something, and talk about whatever, I wouldn’t edit your thoughts either. Freedom of speech, whether you like it or not. And to tell you the truth, I have had many people tell me that the writer who wrote that gave an excellent representation of what happened at the courtroom.

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HOWEVER, because of history and time, I do possess a LOT of knowledge of who each of them are - both in good ways and bad. I could still list both positive and negative, despite the charges.

I would welcome it both ways. I have talked to many people who have had many stories. You are welcome to put up whatever you want, and I won’t edit it on Craig, Kelly or whatever you wish.

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Your allegiances with them are yours to keep and cherish. But I just would put it out there that it seems that you still live in DIRE fear that Craig would kick your ass if you didn't bow down and support him on the board.

Once again, I find this comment quite funny. In all the times I have talked to Craig or was with him, I have never felt fear that he would kick my ass. Where did you ever get that…

Tre · « **Reply #59 on:** February 17, 2006, 04:53:30 AM »

Quote from: Ron on February 14, 2006, 04:48:12 PM

Yes – it is a murder. No question on that.

Whooooaaaaa.

Anyone arguing that you (Ron) are trying to be C&K's houseboy needs to read and absorb that statement. If there was any 'sucking up' going on, you would not have said that until it was proven in court.

About the taser, just because it was discharged 6 times, that doesn't mean it was used to incapacitate anyone. Can one of you who has used this device before describe how sensitive the trigger is?

onlyme · « **Reply #60 on:** February 17, 2006, 10:13:57 AM »

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If there was any 'sucking up' going on, you would not have said that until it was proven in court.

I am pretty sure it was murder. Unless somehow Melissa can drive herself gagged and tied up and still be able to pour and ignite herself with lighter fluid, oh and all from the trunk then I would have to say it is murder. Just a wild guess.

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About the taser, just because it was discharged 6 times, that doesn't mean it was used to incapacitate anyone. Can one of you who has used this device before describe how sensitive the trigger is?

I'm pretty sure you don't a taser for anything else but to incapacitate someone. That is what it is made for. They don't make good fly swatters, or for target practice. They don't explode things when they hit it. Basicallyyou shoot the thing into someone and watch them fall to the ground and twitch. And I am pretty sure the trigger isn't so sensitive that it is a hair trigger

buffalo · « **Reply #61 on:** February 17, 2006, 11:14:30 AM »

I like to taser myself in the morning since I gave up caffeine....

no more jolt of coffee...just a 50,000 VOLT JOLT.....maybe that's what Craig was doing??

abz · « **Reply #62 on:** February 17, 2006, 12:34:35 PM »

So an air taser gun cannot hurt someone???

HOW DOES AN AIR TASER WORK? Upon firing, compressed nitrogen projects two AIR TASER probes 15 feet at a speed of 135 feet per second. An electrical signal transmits throughout the region where the probes make contact with the body or clothing. The result is an instant loss of the attacker’’s neuromuscular control and any ability to perform coordinated action. AIR TASER uses an automatic timing mechanism to apply the electric charge. The TASER releases an electric current in a pre-set time sequence (an initial seven seconds followed by several 1.8 second breaks for a total time of about 30 seconds in each cycle). This cycle ensures that the nervous system of the target does not recover instantly to allow him to remove the probes. The follow-on bursts disrupt the process of re-equilibration of the nervous system. While the target is disabled, the user can place the device on the ground andescape.

HOW CAN THE AIR TASER BE SO EFFECTIVE YET NON-INJURIOUS? The AIR TASER does not depend upon impact or body penetration to achieve its effect. Its pulsating electrical output interferes with communication between the brain and the muscular system, resulting in loss of control. However, the AIR TASER is non-destructive to nerves, muscles and other body elements. It simply affects them in their natural mode. No deaths have ever been directly attributed to the TASER.

WHAT HAS TESTING REVEALED REGARDING THE AIR TASER? Anesthesiologist and specialist in medical electronics, Dr. Frank Summers, MD of St. Joseph’’s Hospital, Orange, California, directed tests of volunteers at St. Joseph’’s in 1971 and 1974. Dr. Summers stated, "...We undertook this [volunteer test] in the operating rooms at St. Joseph’’s Hospital. We had an assembly of cardiovascular surgeons, cardiologists... we had a real [TASER]. We tested extensively and made movies. The tests were impressive. We monitored all parameters of physiology, including
electrocardiographs. The tests did not produce any lethal effects and we found that the background work that had been done did indeed pan out in practice."

DOES THE TASER AFFECT THE HEART OR A PACEMAKER? The AIR TASER’s output is well below the level established as "safe" by the federal government in approving such devices as the electrified cattle fence. In a medical study of the Model XR 5000ÔÔ electronic stun gun, Dr. Robert Stratbucker Nebraska University Medical Center confirms that the T-Wave does not interrupt the heartbeat or damage a pacemaker. A modern pacemaker is designed to withstand electrical defibrillator pulses that are hundreds of times stronger than the AIR TASER’’s output. The AIR TASER current of 0.3 joules is well below the 10-50 joule threshold above which cardiac ventricular fibrillation can occur. High voltage, in itself, is not dangerous. One can receive a 25,000-volt shock of static electricity from a doorknob on a dry day without harm.

The physiological effect of electrical shock is determined by: the current, its duration, and the power source that produces the shock. The typical household current of 110 volts is dangerous because it can pump many amperes of current throughout the body indefinitely. The AIR TASER power supply consists of an alkaline 9-Volt battery capable of supplying less than 3 watts of electrical power for a few minutes.

WILL THE TASER CAUSE ELECTROCUTION? No. The output is metered by the electronics and the electrical energy in each pulse is always the same, regardless of the target condition. The electrical output will not be transferred from one person to another even if they touch. AIR TASER, Inc.’s president has been stunned by an AIR TASER while standing in water to emphasize this point.

WHAT ARE THE AFTER EFFECTS? A person hit with an AIR TASER will feel dazed for several minutes. The pulsating electrical output causes involuntary muscle contractions and a resulting sense of vertigo. It can momentarily stun or render an attacker unconscious. AIR TASER’’s low electrical amperage and short duration of pulsating current, ensures a non-lethal charge. It does not cause permanent damage or long-term effects to muscles, nerves or other body functions. A January 1987 Annals of Emergency Medicine study reported TASER technology leaves no long term injuries compared with 50% long term injuries for gun shot injuries.

MUST THE PROBES PENETRATE THE BODY TO BE EFFECTIVE? No. The electrical current will"jump" up to two inches as long as both probes are attached to clothing or skin. At most, only the 3/8-inch needlepoint will penetrate the skin. They have less energy than a spring propelled BB.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #63 on:** February 17, 2006, 01:52:51 PM »

some newsreader on MSNBC rick sanchez volunteered to get tased on videotape for a broadcast. his reflexes jolted with a single tase.

shutupandtrain88 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 18, 2006, 06:02:59 PM »

are 240 and ron the same person? maybe it's been said before but they share the same C&K crap. and the sites are very similar

FLYLO · « **Reply #65 on:** February 19, 2006, 10:23:32 AM »

Ron is one of those people who praises along side the "emperor's new clothes". Then, will speak against the ridiculousness, after the damage is done; with a list of facts to support his views only.
He secretly plays detective; only to prove the facts against anyone, later. Just watch, regardless of the out come of the C&K case; he'll have an independent conclusion out from his sleeve, in support of the verdict. It's a clever tactic, but not cutting-edge. Great writing he provides for the site; but he's careful of how much information he writes about. For the C&K case, right now: he saving up amo' for later. He'll even bring back the topic and credit himself for helping out the James' legal fund.

Tinsley · « **Reply #66 on:** February 19, 2006, 09:53:49 PM »

Regardless of what anyone thinks, he still has the right to his own beliefs and to be vocal about them. He's the guy who runs the show here and if people really don't like what he has to say, they have the right to leave.

No one other than Craig and Kelly knows what their role in this was. Ron has made a public forum where people can put up their two-cents about a topic that has an huge impact on an industry that we are all either interested in.

Of course the James family deserves condolences, but don't hammer on a guy for doing what he feels is best to get (and help other people get) an overall view of something that has not developed to a point where anyone can draw a firm conclusion.

Quote from: FLYLO on February 19, 2006, 10:23:32 AM

Ron is one of those people who praises along side the "emperor's new clothes". Then, will speak against the ridiculousness, after the damage is done; with a list of facts to support his views only.
He secretly plays detective; only to prove the facts against anyone, later. Just watch, regardless of the out come of the C&K case; he'll have an independent conclusion out from his sleeve, in support of the verdict. It's a clever tactic, but not cutting-edge. Great writing he provides for the site; but he's careful of how much information he writes about. For the C&K case, right now: he saving up amo' for later. He'll even bring back the topic and credit himself for helping out the James' legal fund.

Ron · « **Reply #67 on:** February 20, 2006, 10:05:37 AM »

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Ron is one of those people who praises along side the "emperor's new clothes". Then, will speak against the ridiculousness, after the damage is done; with a list of facts to support his views only. He secretly plays detective; only to prove the facts against anyone, later. Just watch, regardless of the out come of the C&K case; he'll have an independent conclusion out from his sleeve, in support of the verdict. It's a clever tactic, but not cutting-edge. Great writing he provides for the site; but he's careful of how much information he writes about. For the C&K case, right now: he saving up amo' for later. He'll even bring back the topic and credit himself for helping out the James' legal fund.

Well - ok. Secretly playing detective is the same for me as trying to get all of the facts for you guys to decide. As for having an independent conclusion - yes, I will, that is my opinion, as well as you can have one too on the case. As for other stories in C&K, yes, that is true too (it isn't the only thing in bodybuildin). And as for the James Legal Fund, if I help them with a check, there is no problem there, is there? But taking credit for it. No - I don't take credit for anything that isn't mine.

nestor · « **Reply #68 on:** February 20, 2006, 06:51:33 PM »

very well said Ron ....

FLYLO · « **Reply #69 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:24:52 AM »

Thank you for responding Ron.
I like the info and all the journalism you provide, for us viewers. It's difficult to comprehend someone as intelligent as yourself, bringing forth a collection of information of facts, and not have a conclusion; or state an educated-guess with facts that you have gattherred. Even when the facts support a guilty verdict.

shockandawe · « **Reply #70 on:** February 21, 2006, 01:53:40 PM »

Talk about a meltdown... Sheesh!!

Earl1972 · « **Reply #71 on:** February 24, 2006, 05:28:21 PM »

Quote from: LLES on February 10, 2006, 11:07:13 AM

How does Taser International know how many times & what time the taser was discharged? I zapped myself once with a stun-gun(when I was I cop, required) & I can tell you ,it is not fun, makes your joints esp the elbows & knees hurt like a MF'er afterwards. But I was unaware that it had a tracking device in it.Once was enough, doing it 6 times sounds like pure rage.

why is that required?

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