I was comparing to MMA/fights ... I didn't mention rugby.
NFL players rely on drugs and pads to be tough.
Let's see how tought and deadly they are without drugs/pads.
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A ton of MMA fighters have pissed hot so that point is moot.
Unless you trained at chute*boxe back in the day, there isn't really anything more hardcore than D-1 or Pro Football.