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For the life of me... I can't comprehend how the disciples of such a murderous and vile ideology feel they have the moral upper hand over others. Yet, in every TV show, in every newspaper, in every radio station, in every debate, there's always a fucking commie that IMHO should be invited to leave 1 second in.
Why???
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Any person with a strong ideology feels superior.
The merit of an ideology has to be measured in how much it is able to provide its members to wield an upper hand in society or even nature.
Communists/Socialists are in a way an antithesis to survival of the fittest and a disaster waiting to happen, especially for all underneath them.
But, also more selective ideologies are not perfect - at the end of the day some people will be wiped away while others will prosper and amass resources enabling them to "rewrite the rules".
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It's the same reason why New York Yankee and New England Patriots fans feel superior to other sport fans.
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it is the narcissits' creed 😎
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Because Yankees and Patriots win.....Communism and Socialism always fail.
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Any person with a strong ideology feels superior.
The merit of an ideology has to be measured in how much it is able to provide its members to wield an upper hand in society or even nature.
Communists/Socialists are in a way an antithesis to survival of the fittest and a disaster waiting to happen, especially for all underneath them.
But, also more selective ideologies are not perfect - at the end of the day some people will be wiped away while others will prosper and amass resources enabling them to "rewrite the rules".
Dude on the right looks like Dolph Lundgren.
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For the life of me... I can't comprehend how the disciples of such a murderous and vile ideology feel they have the moral upper hand over others. Yet, in every TV show, in every newspaper, in every radio station, in every debate, there's always a fucking commie that IMHO should be invited to leave 1 second in.
Why???
It’s basically cognitive dissonance. They don’t see all of the failures of socialism as failures. They’ve convinced themselves it wasn’t really socialism. They also don’t believe in economic theory, and, as a result, don’t have to be bothered with the reality of supply and demand, and scarcity. In their minds, there’s always enough to go around.
It’s an ideology that sounds good on paper. We’re all going to share and everyone’s going to be equal and have everything they need. However, in practice it’s invariably a disaster.
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It’s basically cognitive dissonance. They don’t see all of the failures of socialism as failures. They’ve convinced themselves it wasn’t really socialism. They also don’t believe in economic theory, and, as a result, don’t have to be bothered with the reality of supply and demand, and scarcity. In their minds, there’s always enough to go around.
It’s an ideology that sounds good on paper. We’re all going to share and everyone’s going to be equal and have everything they need. However, in practice it’s invariably a disaster.
Bang on, you speak a lot of sense TL...
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Bang on, you speak a lot of sense TL...
The funny thing is that it is "common sense", there is enough to go around, yet people chose to not use it, or view it as scarce. ;D
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For the life of me... I can't comprehend how the disciples of such a murderous and vile ideology feel they have the moral upper hand over others. Yet, in every TV show, in every newspaper, in every radio station, in every debate, there's always a fucking commie that IMHO should be invited to leave 1 second in.
Why???
Because it's never "real socialism". ::)
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Because it's never "real socialism". ::)
Their version will always be "real socialism".
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Because it's never "real socialism". ::)
The irony is that they are right for the wrong reason. It’s not really socialism when you can use the free market as a pressure valve. In a purely socialist economy this wouldn’t be the case.
Why Canadians Are Increasingly Seeking Medical Treatment Abroad
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/canadian-medical-tourism_us_5949b405e4b0db570d3778ff
“Everyone has access to free medical care that is ‘good enough.’ If you want to pay for better health care, you can’t,” he said. “That’s why those who can afford to, tend to go down to the U.S. for care if they have anything serious happen to them. You can have the greatest doctors in the world, but if the bureaucrats that run the system are making them treat patients with one hand tied behind their back, are they going to be delivering the best possible care
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The irony is that they are right for the wrong reason. It’s not really socialism when you can use the free market as a pressure valve. In a purely socialist economy this wouldn’t be the case.
Why Canadians Are Increasingly Seeking Medical Treatment Abroad
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/canadian-medical-tourism_us_5949b405e4b0db570d3778ff
“Everyone has access to free medical care that is ‘good enough.’ If you want to pay for better health care, you can’t,” he said. “That’s why those who can afford to, tend to go down to the U.S. for care if they have anything serious happen to them. You can have the greatest doctors in the world, but if the bureaucrats that run the system are making them treat patients with one hand tied behind their back, are they going to be delivering the best possible care
Great post. Thank you for posting about Canada's communistic healthcare system. Not to make it sound bad - it actually is pretty good, but I would like more choice than state-ran healthcare only.
I just try to keep myself healthy. Hopefully I will live a long healthy life and just drop dead of a heart attack at age 95 or something. ;D One can only hope at least...ideally, I would like to avoid using Canada's socialistic healthcare system, if that is possible.
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I can't for the life of me understand why capitalist slaves continuously defend their miserable conditions of existence by aping rhetoric they learned from bad-faith cultural critics?
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I can't for the life of me understand why capitalist slaves continuously defend their miserable conditions of existence by aping rhetoric they learned from bad-faith cultural critics?
Because they're not slaves, and they realize they live in one of the wealtiest nations in the world, with a quality of life superior to the one other countries possess.
Ever wondered why people risk their life so they can go to capitalist countries, where they become illegals and have no rights whatsoever? I don't see many people going to Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.
I swear some of you have a twisted perception of what poverty is.
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Because they're not slaves, and they realize they live in one of the wealtiest nations in the world, with a quality of life superior to the one other countries possess.
Ever wondered why people risk their life so they can go to capitalist countries, where they become illegals and have no rights whatsoever? I don't see many people going to Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.
I swear some of you have a twisted perception of what poverty is.
Micheal Moore takes 9/11 workers to Cuba.
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For the life of me... I can't comprehend how the disciples of such a murderous and vile ideology feel they have the moral upper hand over others. Yet, in every TV show, in every newspaper, in every radio station, in every debate, there's always a fucking commie that IMHO should be invited to leave 1 second in.
Why???
Fanatism.
They give up critical thinking and replace it with whatever rubbish their leaders keep repeating.
They're unable to question the moral and the aptitude of their leaders.
Venezuela has hyperinflation; the goverment claims businessman are too greedy and keep rising the prices.
Some socialist politician is involved in a corruption scandal; the media is lying, they're making up the evidences.
For them, their leaders are avatars of moral purity.
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Ever wondered why people risk their life so they can go to capitalist countries, where they become illegals and have no rights whatsoever?
No but I watched my friend play GTA4
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Any person with a strong ideology feels superior.
The merit of an ideology has to be measured in how much it is able to provide its members to wield an upper hand in society or even nature.
Communists/Socialists are in a way an antithesis to survival of the fittest and a disaster waiting to happen, especially for all underneath them.
But, also more selective ideologies are not perfect - at the end of the day some people will be wiped away while others will prosper and amass resources enabling them to "rewrite the rules".
Have to disagree with you there. They could survive, but only like ants: completely devoid of personality, mindlessly slaving away to make their leader more wealthy. They simply do not value the individual to the same degree as strong people do. And why would they? Individually they are weak. So their ideology makes perfect sense.
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For the life of me... I can't comprehend how the disciples of such a murderous and vile ideology feel they have the moral upper hand over others. Yet, in every TV show, in every newspaper, in every radio station, in every debate, there's always a fucking commie that IMHO should be invited to leave 1 second in.
Why???
Because its easier to steal from others than work for something for ones' self. Socialism and Communism is the belief system of losers and the lazy.
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Great post. Thank you for posting about Canada's communistic healthcare system. Not to make it sound bad - it actually is pretty good, but I would like more choice than state-ran healthcare only.
I just try to keep myself healthy. Hopefully I will live a long healthy life and just drop dead of a heart attack at age 95 or something. ;D One can only hope at least...ideally, I would like to avoid using Canada's socialistic healthcare system, if that is possible.
One of the main reasons why it’s pretty good it’s because it can “cheat” off the private sector. You have the largest economy in the world right next-door, 10 times the size of Canada’s. American pharmaceutical companies and medical supply companies bring prices down as a result of their r&d. This wouldn’t happen in a purely socialist economy.
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Have to disagree with you there. They could survive, but only like ants: completely devoid of personality, mindlessly slaving away to make their leader more wealthy. They simply do not value the individual to the same degree as strong people do. And why would they? Individually they are weak. So their ideology makes perfect sense.
You are right, good point - "survival of the fittest" unfortunately is often taken advantage of by cheaters who refuse to die off.
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It's because they're taught this from birth. Just like kids here in America who have to say the Pledge of Allegiance ever day in school. Forcing their loyalty from a young age. Why the fuck should a kid pledge their allegiance to any country at a young age?
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Answers to OP....
1) They are delusional
2) Cognitive dissonance
3) Mentally ill
4) Deeply immature
DRUM ROLL......
5) They practice deceipt upon the population - they intentionally lie to misrepresent - basic propaganda approach. The ones at the top particularly - they know they are gonna rape and mass murder if they ever succeed.
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ask strawman he's a perfect case study
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I can't for the life of me understand why capitalist slaves continuously defend their miserable conditions of existence by aping rhetoric they learned from bad-faith cultural critics?
This is what I’m talking about.
In Venezuela, you have poor fucks waiting for hours on supermarket lines just to get a piece of moldy bread. Here in capitalist slave United States you have useless ghetto rats managing to get up to 300 pounds before they even hit adulthood.
(http://ontvsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/quantasia-sharpton.jpg)
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I can't for the life of me understand why capitalist slaves continuously defend their miserable conditions of existence by aping rhetoric they learned from bad-faith cultural critics?
Pay attention guys, this is what I was talking about.
We have a real live one here.
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This is what I’m talking about.
In Venezuela, you have poor fucks waiting for hours on supermarket lines just to get a piece of moldy bread. Here in capitalist slave United States you have useless ghetto rats managing to get up to 300 pounds before they even hit adulthood.
(http://ontvsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/quantasia-sharpton.jpg)
I've talked to communists on social media and they're nuts.
They have a twisted perception of reality.
- they think only physical labor creates wealth, therefore every business owner is making money out of his/her employees.
- they fail to realize that 9 out of 10 businesses fail in the first five years. You just don't hire a few employees, oppress them and become rich.
- they believe in conspiracy "theories" and think that all economic problems in socialists states are caused by the US or the "bourgeoisie".
- they assume that everyone is capable of running a successful business (ain't that funny).
- they all hate the US.
- they all think highly of themselves and claim to be very intelligent.
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I've talked to communists on social media and they're nuts.
They have a twisted perception of reality.
- they think only physical labor creates wealth, therefore every business owner is making money out of his/her employees.
- they fail to realize that 9 out of 10 businesses fail in the first five years. You just don't hire a few employees, oppress them and become rich.
- they believe in conspiracy "theories" and think that all economic problems in socialists states are caused by the US or the "bourgeoisie".
- they assume that everyone is capable of running a successful business (ain't that funny).
- they all hate the US.
- they all think highly of themselves and claim to be very intelligent.
Every point made is spot on. That’s why it makes no sense to argue with these people. They’re too fucked up.
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Yup - F socialism and communism
I've talked to communists on social media and they're nuts.
They have a twisted perception of reality.
- they think only physical labor creates wealth, therefore every business owner is making money out of his/her employees.
- they fail to realize that 9 out of 10 businesses fail in the first five years. You just don't hire a few employees, oppress them and become rich.
- they believe in conspiracy "theories" and think that all economic problems in socialists states are caused by the US or the "bourgeoisie".
- they assume that everyone is capable of running a successful business (ain't that funny).
- they all hate the US.
- they all think highly of themselves and claim to be very intelligent.
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Because they're not slaves, and they realize they live in one of the wealtiest nations in the world, with a quality of life superior to the one other countries possess.
Ever wondered why people risk their life so they can go to capitalist countries, where they become illegals and have no rights whatsoever? I don't see many people going to Venezuela, Cuba or North Korea.
I swear some of you have a twisted perception of what poverty is.
If they're under 35 they're more than likely talking about Nordic model\social democracy\democratic socialism, if you look at every metric available you can see that all of those countries rank higher than america in quality of life
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If they're under 35 they're more than likely talking about Nordic model\social democracy\democratic socialism, if you look at every metric available you can see that all of those countries rank higher than america in quality of life
As I said there’s no point in arguing with this type of mental illness.
However, for those with a normal mentality, Sweden build up its wealth through capitalism and then the welfare state took over. If you look at every Swedish company that’s world-class they’re all like 100 years old. There’s nothing new and innovative going on right now in Sweden:
“Volvo was established in 1915 as a subsidiary of SKF, the ball bearing manufacturer; however the Volvo Group and Volvo Cars consider themselves to have been officially founded on 14 April 1927, when the first car, the Volvo ÖV 4 series, nicknamed as "Jakob", rolled out of the factory in Hisingen, Gothenburg.[3] The building remains (57°42′50″N 11°55′19″E”
How the Welfare State Corrupted Sweden | Mises Institute
Per Bylund
https://mises.org/library/how-welfare-state-corrupted-sweden
Decent morality is long gone. It was completely destroyed in little more than two generations — through public welfare benefits and the concept of welfare rights.
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I've talked to communists on social media and they're nuts.
They have a twisted perception of reality.
- they think only physical labor creates wealth, therefore every business owner is making money out of his/her employees.
- they fail to realize that 9 out of 10 businesses fail in the first five years. You just don't hire a few employees, oppress them and become rich.
- they believe in conspiracy "theories" and think that all economic problems in socialists states are caused by the US or the "bourgeoisie".
- they assume that everyone is capable of running a successful business (ain't that funny).
- they all hate the US.
- they all think highly of themselves and claim to be very intelligent.
Good points. It seems they always either ignore IP or are entirely ignorant of its existence.
And yes, everyone can run a successful business. ::) The only reason leftists aren't all millionaires is because they choose not to be.
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If they're under 35 they're more than likely talking about Nordic model\social democracy\democratic socialism, if you look at every metric available you can see that all of those countries rank higher than america in quality of life
The ones I've talked to are huge fans of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union.
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The ones I've talked to are huge fans of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union.
The author of the piece I posted was born in Sweden and his family has lived there for several generations. I heard him in a podcast say that when he was growing up, people on TV were always praising the old Soviet Union system.
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If they're under 35 they're more than likely talking about Nordic model\social democracy\democratic socialism, if you look at every metric available you can see that all of those countries rank higher than america in quality of life
They won't for long. And I think they also had high rates of depression and suicide.
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They won't for long. And I think they also had high rates of depression and suicide.
The dope is comparing what was a until recently a heterogeneous, isolated country of 10 million to a geographically, racially and economically diverse country of 300 million. It’s a ridiculous comparison but when you have to rationalize a failed ideology you do what you can.
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The dope is comparing what was a until recently a heterogeneous, isolated country of 10 million to a geographically, racially and economically diverse country of 300 million. It’s a ridiculous comparison but when you have to rationalize a failed ideology you do what you can.
My favorite is when the compare the US to Iceland.
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This is what I’m talking about.
In Venezuela, you have poor fucks waiting for hours on supermarket lines just to get a piece of moldy bread. Here in capitalist slave United States you have useless ghetto rats managing to get up to 300 pounds before they even hit adulthood.
(http://ontvsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/quantasia-sharpton.jpg)
And why should I compare myself to a venezuelan? If he is worse off than me, I should be grateful?
Would you tell him, "be grateful you aren't forced to rape your sister, kill your father, and dig until you're unceremoniously shot at the bottom of a mine"?
Would you then travel to the African and tell him, "at least you aren't an ape (albeit just barely) who lives every second in fear of predation and will certainly be torn to bits before he's old. Be grateful for your steady work!"
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Would you tell him, "be grateful you aren't forced to rape your sister, kill your father, and dig until you're unceremoniously shot at the bottom of a mine"?
ha ha you just described communism.
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And why should I compare myself to a venezuelan? If he is worse off than me, I should be grateful?
Would you tell him, "be grateful you aren't forced to rape your sister, kill your father, and dig until you're unceremoniously shot at the bottom of a mine"?
Would you then travel to the African and tell him, "at least you aren't an ape (albeit just barely) who lives every second in fear of predation and will certainly be torn to bits before he's old. Be grateful for your steady work!"
An honest discussion would center on why he is worse off, and recognise that communism will always fail. Which may not make capitalism a perfect system, but it sure makes it better than communism.
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And why should I compare myself to a venezuelan? If he is worse off than me, I should be grateful?
Would you tell him, "be grateful you aren't forced to rape your sister, kill your father, and dig until you're unceremoniously shot at the bottom of a mine"?
Would you then travel to the African and tell him, "at least you aren't an ape (albeit just barely) who lives every second in fear of predation and will certainly be torn to bits before he's old. Be grateful for your steady work!"
Nobody said you should compare yourself to a venezuelan.
The post you quoted implies food in Venezuela is scarce and expensive, while in the US is the complete opposite.
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Nobody said you should compare yourself to a venezuelan.
The post you quoted implies food in Venezuela is scarce and expensive, while in the US is the complete opposite.
Sorry, I guess I thought the implication is that capitalism is great because capitalists arent begging for bread.
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Done arguing online, especially politics. The left has done such a good job of showing me how "tolerant" they are. I will never attempt it again. It does not mean I agree, it means that if you cannot define your terms, expect them accepted without definition or real world examples, then i simply cannot engage in any meaningful dialogue with you. Blank assertions, logical fallacies and attacks ad hominem are not intellectual discussion or debate. so I will post cat pics. that is all humanity is apparently ready for...
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Aside from what I've already posted about communists/socialists... my other beef is this: Of all I've read about communism and socialism, my take away is...
1) It's a gradually return-diminishing exercise. Dirty little secret of communism is that, just as any economic system, they need to trade with others in order to temporarily survive. And not just trade, they either need a trade surplus or an insane abundance of a natural resource. Eventually either the resource is exhausted or the trade surplus comes to an end. When this happens, the economy takes a nosedive and cannot recover from it. See USSR. OR, take a look at any European countries that went socialist right after 9/11 and see how they fared when the credit crunch came down on everyone. Spain comes to mind. So does Greece and Italy. The socialists basically went on a spending bonanza and dismissed warnings from the ECB about the dangers of draining the safety-net funds. They didn't even give a shit. They continued on financing things like bonus pay for the retirees, sex changes in foreign countries, free medical care for anyone who wanted it (regardless of legal status,) et cetera.
2) It requires an insane amount of people to be killed to be implemented. See China or Stalin's Soviet Union. The trail of death is really astonishing.
3) It eventually dies out. No surprise here. There isn't a single communist country in the world that has been able to implement communism without force for more than 100 years. China is an exception because it has embraced an economy that is, let's not kid ourselves, "capitalistic" and it's so God Damned big that, after almost a thousand years of living by themselves in isolated communities without the help of the State, people don't require or demand anything from the central government. So, if you have a population of 1.4 billion souls and only 35-40% of those living in the country actually require any resources from the government, it's not a surprise that those resources can be used somewhere else. Some parts of China are so remote that the government itself does not collect any taxes because it would cost them more to travel to these communities than what would be collected, so they leave them alone.
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They don't. If anything, they feel inferior and covet other peoples' stuff and want the government to redistribute it.
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For the life of me... I can't comprehend how the disciples of such a murderous and vile ideology feel they have the moral upper hand over others. Yet, in every TV show, in every newspaper, in every radio station, in every debate, there's always a fucking commie that IMHO should be invited to leave 1 second in.
Why???
Because they are a bunch of sick fucks trying to hide their own deviancy.
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Here's the part that pisses me off the most: as a right wing conservative, I don't try and sway others towards my political views. As a matter of fact, I don't want any liberal converts because they are soiled for life in that regard. But they, on the other hand, want to post their argument to everyone who doesn't agree with them as if we are all of a sudden going to "come to our senses."
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They don't. If anything, they feel inferior and covet other peoples' stuff and want the government to redistribute it.
It’s understandable why this ideology would be popular among college age kids.
They’ve been living on their parents dime for their entire lives and are now facing the prospect of fending for themselves. Under those conditions, the concept of “free everything“ sounds awesome.
Of course, the plan starts to fall apart when the question comes up of whether the people providing all the free stuff will also be working for free.
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This guys sums it up perfectly. :)
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Just look at Castro's socialist paradise , Cuba is fucked ::)