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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2013, 06:27:40 PM »
Just extend Zero % interest rates and do QE rounds 4 -236 and we will be back on our feet in no time!

Also, keep pumping money into the financial markets, screw 85 billion per month make it 900 billion.

Why the fuck not, right?

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2013, 06:28:17 PM »
  I laugh at QE!   ;D

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2013, 06:29:30 PM »
  There is overwhelming evidence that quantitative easing does NOT work to strengthen the economy.

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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2013, 06:30:46 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 06:31:09 PM »
You sure are a weird mother fucker. In real life over you are batshit crazy. It's all good though. This world drives many people crazy..
huh? it s a fact, there s new flu pandemic starting in china, just check the news retard.

If some events are planned, others arent, remember the tsunamis in japan? Remember the japansese politics and tepco leaders? they were overwhelmed, they didnt have a clue what to do, and so far we dont even know if the whole thing is even under control.

Well , mix human made mistakes with simultaneous natural disasters and you obtain major world population decrease. Funny how nature regulates itself one way or another.  It happened in the past. And dont think the world is at peace; all countries are at war with each others even in so called peaceful times, all it takes is economic collapse for the strongest to suddenly want to fix that old unsettled argument with a neighbor that has been recently weakened enough to not defend himself as well as he could before. When the economy works people are focused on earning their lives and going back home to watch tv, but when all of this is in jeopardy, there s a need to find ennemies and solutions to your problems whatever the cost.

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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2013, 06:32:18 PM »
  That new virus is killing one in three. Fuck that.

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2013, 07:41:25 PM »
ZH is a good site

if you read zero hedge daily as i do, it is obvious the global crash is planned by elites from the whole world, they just want it to happen during summer so it will be easier for world populations to cope; one thing is sure tho, next winter is going to be tough for a lot lot of people on earth. Fact is the whole thing is scripted. Pretty tough to tell if japan, italy, spain or the US will colapse first but they ve all been out of order for quite a while. Markets are completley disconected from reality and artificially rated, basically alls numbers are manipulated, for the simple reason they are going to decide when truth will be revealed. In cyprus and everywhere in europe elites were able to get their money in safety weeks before it happened, simply because it is completely planned from the getgo. The same will apply everywhere, asia, north america, all rich people are carefully puting their assets in safety at the moment, they dont want to scare the sheeple, and once they re protected enough they ll stop manipulating numbers and most people worldwide will be ruined in days. There are no bullshit economists everywhere in europe telling the crowds be very careful, the elites are soon going to rape you raw. Most mainstream medias, journalists etc are hand in hand with both politics and industrials, so they keep saying everything will be allright, but it's when they re saying that you know you can start to panick, because it's exactly the opposite that s going to happen. They dont care much, they re all rich and safe. Those are middle and lower classes problems , not theirs; they ve been richer they ll still be richer, and will have security and military forces working for them.

They decided to start slowly with cyprus a little island with small population, to prepare psychologically the rest of europe and the world. All of this is perfectly planned. In cyprus they didnt revolt in the first days, they were shocked by the event, but it's weeks later people start to realize and to get angry. At this moment elites are already fleeing in their private jets to some hot sunny spot on earth with their millions or billions.

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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2013, 08:14:45 PM »
if you read zero hedge daily as i do, it is obvious the global crash is planned by elites from the whole world, they just want it to happen during summer so it will be easier for world populations to cope; one thing is sure tho, next winter is going to be tough for a lot lot of people on earth. Fact is the whole thing is scripted. Pretty tough to tell if japan, italy, spain or the US will colapse first but they ve all been out of order for quite a while. Markets are completley disconected from reality and artificially rated, basically alls numbers are manipulated, for the simple reason they are going to decide when truth will be revealed. In cyprus and everywhere in europe elites were able to get their money in safety weeks before it happened, simply because it is completely planned from the getgo. The same will apply everywhere, asia, north america, all rich people are carefully puting their assets in safety at the moment, they dont want to scare the sheeple, and once they re protected enough they ll stop manipulating numbers and most people worldwide will be ruined in days. There are no bullshit economists everywhere in europe telling the crowds be very careful, the elites are soon going to rape you raw. Most mainstream medias, journalists etc are hand in hand with both politics and industrials, so they keep saying everything will be allright, but it's when they re saying that you know you can start to panick, because it's exactly the opposite that s going to happen. They dont care much, they re all rich and safe. Those are middle and lower classes problems , not theirs; they ve been richer they ll still be richer, and will have security and military forces working for them.

They decided to start slowly with cyprus a little island with small population, to prepare psychologically the rest of europe and the world. All of this is perfectly planned. In cyprus they didnt revolt in the first days, they were shocked by the event, but it's weeks later people start to realize and to get angry. At this moment elites are already fleeing in their private jets to some hot sunny spot on earth with their millions or billions.




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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2013, 04:48:08 AM »
if you read zero hedge daily as i do, it is obvious the global crash is planned by elites from the whole world, they just want it to happen during summer so it will be easier for world populations to cope; one thing is sure tho, next winter is going to be tough for a lot lot of people on earth. Fact is the whole thing is scripted. Pretty tough to tell if japan, italy, spain or the US will colapse first but they ve all been out of order for quite a while. Markets are completley disconected from reality and artificially rated, basically alls numbers are manipulated, for the simple reason they are going to decide when truth will be revealed. In cyprus and everywhere in europe elites were able to get their money in safety weeks before it happened, simply because it is completely planned from the getgo. The same will apply everywhere, asia, north america, all rich people are carefully puting their assets in safety at the moment, they dont want to scare the sheeple, and once they re protected enough they ll stop manipulating numbers and most people worldwide will be ruined in days. There are no bullshit economists everywhere in europe telling the crowds be very careful, the elites are soon going to rape you raw. Most mainstream medias, journalists etc are hand in hand with both politics and industrials, so they keep saying everything will be allright, but it's when they re saying that you know you can start to panick, because it's exactly the opposite that s going to happen. They dont care much, they re all rich and safe. Those are middle and lower classes problems , not theirs; they ve been richer they ll still be richer, and will have security and military forces working for them.

They decided to start slowly with cyprus a little island with small population, to prepare psychologically the rest of europe and the world. All of this is perfectly planned. In cyprus they didnt revolt in the first days, they were shocked by the event, but it's weeks later people start to realize and to get angry. At this moment elites are already fleeing in their private jets to some hot sunny spot on earth with their millions or billions.

http://www.zerohedge.com/

@ZeroHedge on twitter. Solid and scary stuff.

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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2013, 04:51:43 AM »
if you read zero hedge daily as i do, it is obvious the global crash is planned by elites from the whole world, they just want it to happen during summer so it will be easier for world populations to cope; one thing is sure tho, next winter is going to be tough for a lot lot of people on earth. Fact is the whole thing is scripted. Pretty tough to tell if japan, italy, spain or the US will colapse first but they ve all been out of order for quite a while. Markets are completley disconected from reality and artificially rated, basically alls numbers are manipulated, for the simple reason they are going to decide when truth will be revealed. In cyprus and everywhere in europe elites were able to get their money in safety weeks before it happened, simply because it is completely planned from the getgo. The same will apply everywhere, asia, north america, all rich people are carefully puting their assets in safety at the moment, they dont want to scare the sheeple, and once they re protected enough they ll stop manipulating numbers and most people worldwide will be ruined in days. There are no bullshit economists everywhere in europe telling the crowds be very careful, the elites are soon going to rape you raw. Most mainstream medias, journalists etc are hand in hand with both politics and industrials, so they keep saying everything will be allright, but it's when they re saying that you know you can start to panick, because it's exactly the opposite that s going to happen. They dont care much, they re all rich and safe. Those are middle and lower classes problems , not theirs; they ve been richer they ll still be richer, and will have security and military forces working for them.

They decided to start slowly with cyprus a little island with small population, to prepare psychologically the rest of europe and the world. All of this is perfectly planned. In cyprus they didnt revolt in the first days, they were shocked by the event, but it's weeks later people start to realize and to get angry. At this moment elites are already fleeing in their private jets to some hot sunny spot on earth with their millions or billions.




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 Great post.
I agree Great Post...and it is the Truth.

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2013, 04:56:11 AM »
reminds me of this...

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2013, 07:30:36 AM »
Getting jobs these days if you are inexperienced is almost impossible unless you have a contact in a company who can get you an interview. I've used LinkedIn to apply to jobs and it says how many others have also applied. A lot of the time, the number is close to 200 applicants. Like who the fuck will read 200 resumes? The lack of jobs in this economy is a very real problem

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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2013, 07:41:06 AM »
Getting jobs these days if you are inexperienced is almost impossible unless you have a contact in a company who can get you an interview. I've used LinkedIn to apply to jobs and it says how many others have also applied. A lot of the time, the number is close to 200 applicants. Like who the fuck will read 200 resumes? The lack of jobs in this economy is a very real problem
Yes in Europe itīs really bad.. itīs now getting to be Global.. itīs time for an uprising. I am no Communist but i am Left orientated and was in office here as a politician. I hate the way these rich people are squeezing the poor more and more...enough is enough !!

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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2013, 07:47:01 AM »
if you read zero hedge daily as i do, it is obvious the global crash is planned by elites from the whole world, they just want it to happen during summer so it will be easier for world populations to cope; one thing is sure tho, next winter is going to be tough for a lot lot of people on earth. Fact is the whole thing is scripted. Pretty tough to tell if japan, italy, spain or the US will colapse first but they ve all been out of order for quite a while. Markets are completley disconected from reality and artificially rated, basically alls numbers are manipulated, for the simple reason they are going to decide when truth will be revealed. In cyprus and everywhere in europe elites were able to get their money in safety weeks before it happened, simply because it is completely planned from the getgo. The same will apply everywhere, asia, north america, all rich people are carefully puting their assets in safety at the moment, they dont want to scare the sheeple, and once they re protected enough they ll stop manipulating numbers and most people worldwide will be ruined in days. There are no bullshit economists everywhere in europe telling the crowds be very careful, the elites are soon going to rape you raw. Most mainstream medias, journalists etc are hand in hand with both politics and industrials, so they keep saying everything will be allright, but it's when they re saying that you know you can start to panick, because it's exactly the opposite that s going to happen. They dont care much, they re all rich and safe. Those are middle and lower classes problems , not theirs; they ve been richer they ll still be richer, and will have security and military forces working for them.

They decided to start slowly with cyprus a little island with small population, to prepare psychologically the rest of europe and the world. All of this is perfectly planned. In cyprus they didnt revolt in the first days, they were shocked by the event, but it's weeks later people start to realize and to get angry. At this moment elites are already fleeing in their private jets to some hot sunny spot on earth with their millions or billions.
According to psychologists, cynicism is a combination of ignorance and fear communicated through arrogance. Yep, fear, check, arrogance, check, yeah... sounds about right. You have all these traits uberdud.

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2013, 08:10:10 AM »
his post is spot on.. itīs happening NOW

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2013, 03:32:31 PM »
not enough demand

jobs go down

demand comes from the employer and the consumer

the demand is mostly always high from the consumer

the demand is low from the employer because taxes are too high. every employee you hire is more paperwork and phone calls and conversations that you dont feel like partaking in, all in order to give an employee work to do

so do away with minimum wage

or lower taxes

i say do away with minimum wage

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« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2013, 12:40:07 PM »
Only basic local services and jobs related to food clothes and basic needs goods production will survive; but places are and will be expensive to obtain; lot of old people with no pensions and cut from their families -when they built any- are going to feel very sorry for themselves. Most people working behind a desk and pushing paper are going to have a hard time adapting because eventually they ll lose their jobs too. Dont wait for an official warning, it's slowly degrading by the day and everyone keeps pretending he/she is not concerned, that's what our societies based on appearances taught us to do for decades in such situations. Extremely egocentrical, egoistical atomized selfish individuals are not going to like it when they lose their confort, more than populations who are used to live in poverty.

Never ever has the world population been so high, so nobody knows how mass and instantanous deep poverty striking everyone is going to turn out. But it's not hard to figure we re going to go back to a feodal system worlwide for quite a while before a new equilibrium is found. Basically poor people will kill each others with the help of rich people until a smaller more maneageable world population is reached, then it will be a global standardization of living conditions for everyone.

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2013, 12:45:40 PM »
  Listen to Uber

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« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2013, 12:50:54 PM »
  Listen to Uber
Yeah, listen to me with your eyes!

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« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2013, 12:58:09 PM »
According to psychologists, cynicism is a combination of ignorance and fear communicated through arrogance. Yep, fear, check, arrogance, check, yeah... sounds about right. You have all these traits uberdud.
according to psychologists, everyone is crazy but themselves  anyway.

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« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2013, 01:18:53 PM »
It's probably better with fewer jobs.  There's no need for the secretary making $12/hr to get out on the freeway driving her husband's $80k Range Rover to work.  What's the point?  Stay home and learn how to cook.   

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« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2013, 02:52:21 PM »
every employee you hire is more paperwork

PAYG registration as a trading entity.  

Per individual worker: Name, TFN, DOB, DL# (if applicable), address, and bank account details, superannuation account details, and medical certification of fitness for work (seriously & at your cost) - prior to start.  Accrued sick leave, reported weekly to employee.  Accrued holiday leave, reported weekly to employee.  Long service leave 'loading' reported and payed quarterly. Superannuation to be payed quarterly.  Worker's compensation insurance payments as per payment schedule.  Worker's compensation insurance wages reporting, annually.  PAYG wages withholding to be reported and payed quarterly along with quarterly GST reporting.  PAYG statement to be issued annually to workers.

The safety assurance list is even more onerous and is government mandated at the behest of insurance companies seeking pay-when-we-feel-like-it legislation.  Fail to fully comply, and I mean fucking fully, over the course of years of practice and record keeping, and the corporate veil is negated in the event of an injury, actual or spurious.  Super general, general, monthly, weekly, job specific, daily, and "Take 5" paperwork all to be completed and kept on file, reported, etc.  One missing piece of paper, one squeaky bolt on a ladder, whatever, and kiss everything you have adios in the event of a worker's compensation claim.  Which you should just go ahead and do because somewhere in this impossible scheme you will, however small, have failed to be compliant.  And if you haven't then dig the new catchphrase:  "Every accident is preventable."  So why am I paying you, worker's comp insurance company?  Oh yeah, I have to under penalty of law.  However much you say and whatever impossible demands you want to impose.

And there's more.  Way more.  Advertising, interviewing & vetting (they are all idiots!  why am I here.)  Training costs - oh boy.  Lost costs from untrainables.  Seeming trainables who can't achieve breakeven.  People you can't just fire because you can't fire anyone, by law, without 3 written warnings.  No shows.  Wednesday shows when they're broke and need a quick advance.  Drug addicts.  Alcoholics.  Why would you tell the client he's a dick because you were late?  Glad I factor for bad debt.  People who keep fucking things up so you work back to fix their work.  Apprenticeship schemes (not even).  Tools of trade & associated costs.  Idiots damaging tools. Idiots losing tools.  Thieves pawning tools. Vehicles (purchase, maintenance, idiots, & associated costs).  Insurances on tools of trade and vehicles.  There is no end.

By the time I train a trainable man and put him in a company van with required tools to go to your house to work for 30 minutes, I have to bill you like $500 just to break even.  And the quality of his work is going to be shit compared to what I will do in 10 minutes for a lousy $200, and you're wife is gonna be horny later on.

If I want to pay you $50 an hour to do something you're capable of doing, and you want to do it for $50 an hour, well guess what?  We can't legally do it.  You'd think we could but there's all these assholes who have interposed themselves between you and I, so if we want to strike a simple agreement then we need the ok of every single one of them.  And that's gonna cost us.  I have to give a shitload of percentages to private companies with legislative clout and jump through their hoops (*penalty of law*), and so do you.  Sorry to report that they have made you unemployable by virtue of costs and liabilities.  I now need you billable at $200 an hour in order to pay you $50 an hour, but if your work is billable at $200 then you're not going to be here long at $50.



And that's how I became a communist who hates everyone.

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Re: NO Jobs
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2013, 08:23:01 PM »
Meanwhile, the rich man is having tons of fun... preparing the next war.




 

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« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2013, 08:29:38 PM »
  Every post by Uber in this thread is amazing

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2013, 06:51:00 AM »
according to psychologists, everyone is crazy but themselves  anyway.

Most people that go into psychiatry/psychology are trying to find out what's wrong with them, I once saw a shrink trying to diagnose himself wit the DSM3R and then self medicate. One of the highest suicide rates..... And usually pompous aholes.