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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: macos on December 01, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
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I mean arnold was the biggest guy in whichever contest he entered since the beginning of his career.
It is said that even franco was not aware of Arnold's stack.
His father was a national champ. He definitely had access to all the German Doping doctors. Arnold learned the tricks from his father's contacts(the german doping doctors).
What do you guys think?
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If not even Franco was aware, how are we supposed to know??? ;D
Running with Arnold
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0386757/
See Arnold Run
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419125/
The Running Arnold
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093894/
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Dr. Mengele and post war Nazi organization ODESSA (through research and experimentation in bodybuilding and what we know today as the galeniko diet, preformed at Auschwitz) supplied Arnold with cutting edge chemicals and coaching.
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Phew, so there WAS a Getbigger who knew!
Thanks Roger for coming through!
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Arnold was a big fan of high tren, low test
He also loved his halo & t3
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Dr. Mengela and post war Nazi organization ODESSA (through research and experimentation in bodybuilding and what we know today as the galeniko diet, preformed at Auschwitz) supplied Arnold with cutting edge chemicals and coaching.
who is the doc you refer to here?
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who is the doc you refer to here?
I'm assuming Roger is talking about Doctor Gophorit Mengela.
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Arnold was a big fan of high tren, low test
He also loved his halo & t3
You also knew it all along.
I must be living in the dark ages.
:(
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Running Man is underappreciated. I find that movie very entertaining.
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I'm assuming Roger is talking about Doctor Gophorit Mengela.
Never heard of him.
You know where i can find him?
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Never heard of him.
You know where i can find him?
You can PM him here on the boards.
His forumname is Go4It
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You can PM him here on the boards.
His forumname is Go4It
He tells me that he has already told the secret to shizzo
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I'm assuming Roger is talking about Doctor Gophorit Mengela.
I fucking laughed out loud!!!! a photoshop is in order!!
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Ric Drasin said he primarily took D-bols, Test, and PRIMOBOLIN...
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Ric Drasin said he primarily took D-bols, Test, and PRIMOBOLIN...
i cant stand to look at bald guys especially if they have no ultimate muscles
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here we go again.....
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I dont get get Ahhnold wasn't more bloaty from the Dbol he loved ???
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Ric Drasin said he primarily took D-bols, Test, and PRIMOBOLIN...
Isn't that prime muscle?
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He was running his dick up in that ugly maid....
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I mean arnold was the biggest guy in whichever contest he entered since the beginning of his career.
It is said that even franco was not aware of Arnold's stack.
His father was a national champ. He definitely had access to all the German Doping doctors. Arnold learned the tricks from his father's contacts(the german doping doctors).
What do you guys think?
His dad was a cop,where is the info he was a champ?
Early life
Schwarzenegger was born in Thal, Austria, a village bordering the Styrian capital Graz, and was christened Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger.[4] His parents were the local police chief, Gustav Schwarzenegger (1907–1972), and Aurelia (née Jadrny; 1922–1998). Gustav served in World War II, after he voluntarily applied to join the Nazi Party in 1938.[5] Gustav served with the German Army as a Hauptfeldwebel of the Feldgendarmerie and was discharged in 1943 after contracting malaria. They were married on October 20, 1945 – Gustav was 38, and Aurelia was 23-years-old. According to Schwarzenegger, both of his parents were very strict: "Back then in Austria it was a very different world, if we did something bad or we disobeyed our parents, the rod was not spared."[6] He grew up in a Roman Catholic family who attended Mass every Sunday.[7][8]
Gustav had a preference for his older son, Meinhard, over Arnold.[9] His favoritism was "strong and blatant," which stemmed from unfounded suspicion that Arnold was not his biological child.[10] Schwarzenegger has said his father had "no patience for listening or understanding your problems."[7] Schwarzenegger had a good relationship with his mother and kept in touch with her until her death.[11] In later life, Schwarzenegger commissioned the Simon Wiesenthal Center to research his father's wartime record, which came up with no evidence of Gustav's being involved in atrocities, despite Gustav's membership in the Nazi Party and SA.[9] Schwarzenegger's father's background received wide press attention during the 2003 California recall campaign.[12] At school, Schwarzenegger was apparently in the middle but stood out for his "cheerful, good-humored and exuberant" character.[7] Money was a problem in their household; Schwarzenegger recalled that one of the highlights of his youth was when the family bought a refrigerator.[10]
As a boy, Schwarzenegger played several sports, heavily influenced by his father.[7] He picked up his first barbell in 1960, when his soccer coach took his team to a local gym.[4] At the age of 14, he chose bodybuilding over soccer as a career.[13][14] Schwarzenegger has responded to a question asking if he was 13 when he started weightlifting: "I actually started weight training when I was 15, but I'd been participating in sports, like soccer, for years, so I felt that although I was slim, I was well-developed, at least enough so that I could start going to the gym and start Olympic lifting."[6] However, his official website biography claims: "At 14, he started an intensive training program with Dan Farmer, studied psychology at 15 (to learn more about the power of mind over body) and at 17, officially started his competitive career."[15] During a speech in 2001, he said, "My own plan formed when I was 14 years old. My father had wanted me to be a police officer like he was. My mother wanted me to go to trade school."[16] Schwarzenegger took to visiting a gym in Graz, where he also frequented the local movie theaters to see bodybuilding idols such as Reg Park, Steve Reeves, and Johnny Weissmuller on the big screen.[6] When Reeves died in 2000, Schwarzenegger fondly remembered him: "As a teenager, I grew up with Steve Reeves. His remarkable accomplishments allowed me a sense of what was possible, when others around me didn't always understand my dreams. Steve Reeves has been part of everything I've ever been fortunate enough to achieve." In 1961, Schwarzenegger met former Mr. Austria Kurt Marnul, who invited him to train at the gym in Graz.[4] He was so dedicated as a youngster that he broke into the local gym on weekends, when it was usually closed, so that he could train. "It would make me sick to miss a workout... I knew I couldn't look at myself in the mirror the next morning if I didn't do it."[6] When Schwarzenegger was asked about his first movie experience as a boy, he replied: "I was very young, but I remember my father taking me to the Austrian theaters and seeing some newsreels. The first real movie I saw, that I distinctly remember, was a John Wayne movie."[6]
In 1971, his brother, Meinhard, died in a car accident.[4] Meinhard had been drinking and was killed instantly. Schwarzenegger did not attend his funeral.[10] Meinhard was due to marry Erika Knapp, and the couple had a three-year-old son, Patrick. Schwarzenegger would pay for Patrick's education and help him to immigrate to the United States.[10] Gustav died the following year from a stroke.[4] In Pumping Iron, Schwarzenegger claimed that he did not attend his father's funeral because he was training for a bodybuilding contest. Later, he and the film's producer said this story was taken from another bodybuilder for the purpose of showing the extremes that some would go to for their sport and to make Schwarzenegger's image more cold and machine-like in order to fan controversy for the film.[17] Barbara Baker, his first serious girlfriend, has said he informed her of his father's death without emotion and that he never spoke of his brother.[18] Over time, he has given at least three versions of why he was absent from his father's funeral.[10]
In an interview with Fortune in 2004, Schwarzenegger told how he suffered what "would now be called child abuse" at the hands of his father: "My hair was pulled. I was hit with belts. So was the kid next door. It was just the way it was. Many of the children I've seen were broken by their parents, which was the German-Austrian mentality. They didn't want to create an individual. It was all about conforming. I was one who did not conform, and whose will could not be broken. Therefore, I became a rebel. Every time I got hit, and every time someone said, 'you can't do this,' I said, 'this is not going to be for much longer, because I'm going to move out of here. I want to be rich. I want to be somebody.'"[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger
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I mean arnold was the biggest guy in whichever contest he entered since the beginning of his career.
It is said that even franco was not aware of Arnold's stack.
His father was a national champ. He definitely had access to all the German Doping doctors. Arnold learned the tricks from his father's contacts(the german doping doctors).
What do you guys think?
arnold knew
you are bad at asking questions
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I dont get get Ahhnold wasn't more bloaty from the Dbol he loved ???
he was.
they dont show you the out of shape pics.
they knew why.
in his book, the stacks are mentioned, he had a really thick book where he allegedly said it all, i had the book no idea where it is now.
i forgot what hes used but he started very early on
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he was.
they dont show you the out of shape pics.
they knew why.
in his book, the stacks are mentioned, he had a really thick book where he allegedly said it all, i had the book no idea where it is now.
i forgot what hes used but he started very early on
He claims natty in The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding.
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(http://opntvnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/running-man-1987-01-g.jpg)
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It'll probably remain a secret forever. God knows how he kept his skin in such great condition, no gyno either. He must have not used test.
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I dont get get Ahhnold wasn't more bloaty from the Dbol he loved ???
That bloat mostly comes from diet... they ate very low carb diets back then which meant they didnt hold as much water...
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He claims natty in The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding.
haha ;D
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It'll probably remain a secret forever. God knows how he kept his skin in such great condition, no gyno either. He must have not used test.
maybe he was natural
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That bloat mostly comes from diet... they ate very low carb diets back then which meant they didnt hold as much water...
i dotn know, they have eaten much mch less than the gutbuilders of today, but theres some steroid which will blur the lines so quick even on strict diet.
they just made sure to be in shape for pics and videos, back then taking vids and pics was quite the endeveaur, the didnt have todays tech where everyone can take razorsharp pics,or blurred cswol-style pics ;D
damn i miss cwole
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i cant stand to look at bald guys especially if they have no ultimate muscles
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He's old and Bald now, but when he was Arnold's workout partner he was huge and had hair!
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His dad was a cop,where is the info he was a champ?
Early life
Schwarzenegger was born in Thal, Austria, a village bordering the Styrian capital Graz, and was christened Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger.[4] His parents were the local police chief, Gustav Schwarzenegger (1907–1972), and Aurelia (née Jadrny; 1922–1998). Gustav served in World War II, after he voluntarily applied to join the Nazi Party in 1938.[5] Gustav served with the German Army as a Hauptfeldwebel of the Feldgendarmerie and was discharged in 1943 after contracting malaria. They were married on October 20, 1945 – Gustav was 38, and Aurelia was 23-years-old. According to Schwarzenegger, both of his parents were very strict: "Back then in Austria it was a very different world, if we did something bad or we disobeyed our parents, the rod was not spared."[6] He grew up in a Roman Catholic family who attended Mass every Sunday.[7][8]
Gustav had a preference for his older son, Meinhard, over Arnold.[9] His favoritism was "strong and blatant," which stemmed from unfounded suspicion that Arnold was not his biological child.[10] Schwarzenegger has said his father had "no patience for listening or understanding your problems."[7] Schwarzenegger had a good relationship with his mother and kept in touch with her until her death.[11] In later life, Schwarzenegger commissioned the Simon Wiesenthal Center to research his father's wartime record, which came up with no evidence of Gustav's being involved in atrocities, despite Gustav's membership in the Nazi Party and SA.[9] Schwarzenegger's father's background received wide press attention during the 2003 California recall campaign.[12] At school, Schwarzenegger was apparently in the middle but stood out for his "cheerful, good-humored and exuberant" character.[7] Money was a problem in their household; Schwarzenegger recalled that one of the highlights of his youth was when the family bought a refrigerator.[10]
As a boy, Schwarzenegger played several sports, heavily influenced by his father.[7] He picked up his first barbell in 1960, when his soccer coach took his team to a local gym.[4] At the age of 14, he chose bodybuilding over soccer as a career.[13][14] Schwarzenegger has responded to a question asking if he was 13 when he started weightlifting: "I actually started weight training when I was 15, but I'd been participating in sports, like soccer, for years, so I felt that a....FROM WIKIPEDIA
I deeply appreciate the effort you put in right here going through all that text in wikipedia. Brother POB, you seem to have missed Arnold's autobiography where he has mentioned with a picture that his father was a Ice-rinking Champion of Austria.
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I dont get get Ahhnold wasn't more bloaty from the Dbol he loved ???
Arnold was a bloated pig off-season, he has himaelf mentioned being a permabulker in off-season before all the O's and all the promition of Weider's Supplements started by him.
Back in the day in Gold's Gym Venice, in his intial years in america ,his nickname was "Baloon Belly" and "Chubby"
Reference: page 95, Total Recall- My Unbelievably true life.
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Arnold was a bloated pig off-season, he has himaelf mentioned being a permabulker in off-season before all the O's and all the promition of Weider's Supplements started by him.
Back in the day in Gold's Gym Venice, in his intial years in america ,his nickname was "Baloon Belly" and "Chubby"
I thought he didn't even train in offseason?
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I thought he didn't even train in offseason?
and makes you think that, bro?
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I thought he didn't even train in offseason?
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He did, but used much less sets, heavier weights and LOTS of "supplements" ;)
2 to 3 months before a contest the pace would increase drastically: 20 plus sets per body-part, minimal rest breaks- Trained 2 hours in early morning, returned for different body-parts workout in afternoon.
Mostly ZERO carb in pre-contest phase, plus lots of PRIMOBOLIN
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I'm assuming Roger is talking about Doctor Gophorit Mengela.
Found a photo of the Doctor in one of my old WWII books.
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Arnold was a big fan of high tren, low test
He also loved his halo & t3
No. Tren wasn't around then. No bodybuilder would be caught dead using straight testosterone prior to 1980. Halo and t3? What are you? Under 30 years old?
Drugs back then were Dianabol, Anavar, Winstrol, Equipose, Deca, Durobolin, Anadrol 50 (the real drug not the counterfeit one of today), Primo, and Nelivar. There was zero growth hormone and zero insulin.
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When I was 17 and wanting to get into bodybuilding, I became friends with Mr. America Rich Baretta. He in turn, set me up with Bob Gruskin. Yes the same Bob Gruskin who was Arnold's guru. He helped me prep for a couple of shows until I decided the amount of drugs that were in higher level bodybuilding wasn't for me and I switched to power lifting.
We spoke in depth about old time bodybuilding etc. and he once told me that similarly to how we use Equipoise now from horses, the Germans use gorilla hormones to gain muscle and that this was what Arnold, Louie, Franco etc. were all on. This is a 100% true story that this is what he told me...
And D-Bol was huge back then. They took a lot of it.
How true HIS story was about gorilla hormones, I have no idea. Take it as you will.
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When I was 17 and wanting to get into bodybuilding, I became friends with Mr. America Rich Baretta. He in turn, set me up with Bob Gruskin. Yes the same Bob Gruskin who was Arnold's guru. He helped me prep for a couple of shows until I decided the amount of drugs that were in higher level bodybuilding wasn't for me and I switched to power lifting.
We spoke in depth about old time bodybuilding etc. and he once told me that similarly to how we use Equipoise now from horses, the Germans use gorilla hormones to gain muscle and that this was what Arnold, Louie, Franco etc. were all on. This is a 100% true story that this is what he told me...
And D-Bol was huge back then. They took a lot of it.
How true HIS story was about gorilla hormones, I have no idea. Take it as you will.
do you mean resus monkey growth hormone
which outside cadaver gh was the first one widley used in bb
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do you mean resus monkey growth hormone
which outside cadaver gh was the first one widley used in bb
He said gorilla hormones... Had a name for it as well but hell this was early 90s so I forget the name.
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do you mean resus monkey growth hormone
which outside cadaver gh was the first one widley used in bb
This. Oldtimer1 take note of this.
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When I was 17 and wanting to get into bodybuilding, I became friends with Mr. America Rich Baretta. He in turn, set me up with Bob Gruskin. Yes the same Bob Gruskin who was Arnold's guru. He helped me prep for a couple of shows until I decided the amount of drugs that were in higher level bodybuilding wasn't for me and I switched to power lifting.
We spoke in depth about old time bodybuilding etc. and he once told me that similarly to how we use Equipoise now from horses, the Germans use gorilla hormones to gain muscle and that this was what Arnold, Louie, Franco etc. were all on. This is a 100% true story that this is what he told me...
And D-Bol was huge back then. They took a lot of it.
How true HIS story was about gorilla hormones, I have no idea. Take it as you will.
Equipose was not a steroid derived from horses. It was a steroid for horses. Some say it was the injectable form of Winstrol.
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This. Oldtimer1 take note of this.
It was rarely used and very expensive. Growth hormone was used first from the pituitary gland of human cadavers. This was during the height of the aids scare so most bodybuilders wouldn't use it. This was early 80's maybe late 70's. The monkey derived one was also something bodybuilders talked about but no one knew anyone that used it prior to 1980's. No, I will bet Arnold, Franco, Zane, Mentzer, Robby, Padilla and the rest never used growth hormone or insulin. Their bodies are the smoking gun proof of that.
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Equipose was not a steroid derived from horses. It was a steroid for horses. Some say it was the injectable form of Winstrol.
No where did I say gorilla hormones from gorillas. I said gorilla hormones. Could be the same way. I don't know it was not my info jack ass.
Edit: I did say from horses and not for so yes... But you know what I mean.
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No where did I say gorilla hormones from gorillas. I said gorilla hormones. Could be the same way. I don't know it was not my info jack ass.
hehe i think you were misinformed
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Warm horse piss
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i was told odd things also over the years
turtle blood
bull testicles
cadaver gh
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hehe i think you were misinformed
Listen newb.... Do you even know who Bob Gruskin is? Go get your shine box you little turd.
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Arnold was a bloated pig off-season, he has himaelf mentioned being a permabulker in off-season before all the O's and all the promition of Weider's Supplements started by him.
Back in the day in Gold's Gym Venice, in his intial years in america ,his nickname was "Baloon Belly" and "Chubby"
Reference: page 95, Total Recall- My Unbelievably true life.
Arnold actually got very skinny off season. There are many pictures of him showing that. Franco, Zane, and many others also lost weight after a contest when they went off drugs. Using drugs are a risk to health but it seemed back in the day the big stars competed in one contest or for a period of contests in one month or so. So many of them only used for few months out of a year.
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When I was 17 and wanting to get into bodybuilding, I became friends with Mr. America Rich Baretta. He in turn, set me up with Bob Gruskin. Yes the same Bob Gruskin who was Arnold's guru. He helped me prep for a couple of shows until I decided the amount of drugs that were in higher level bodybuilding wasn't for me and I switched to power lifting.
We spoke in depth about old time bodybuilding etc. and he once told me that similarly to how we use Equipoise now from horses, the Germans use gorilla hormones to gain muscle and that this was what Arnold, Louie, Franco etc. were all on. This is a 100% true story that this is what he told me...
And D-Bol was huge back then. They took a lot of it.
How true HIS story was about gorilla hormones, I have no idea. Take it as you will.
You're mad at me because you can't form a coherent thought and I'm supposed to guess what you meant? I think you meant exactly what you wrote and now you are embarrassed. Gorilla hormones!
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You're mad at me because you can't form a coherent thought and I'm supposed to guess what you meant? I think you meant exactly what you wrote and now you are embarrassed. Gorilla hormones!
You think I'm mad because I called you a jack ass? Maybe it's just cause...
Your a jack ass.
I clearly state I have no clue if it was accurate or not. BUT Bob Gruskin is one of the most knowledgable and respected people in bodybuilding... Ever. And you are who exactly? So yeah.
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he was.
they dont show you the out of shape pics.
they knew why.
in his book, the stacks are mentioned, he had a really thick book where he allegedly said it all, i had the book no idea where it is now.
i forgot what hes used but he started very early on
Stacks mentioned?
how old was it?
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It was rarely used and very expensive. Growth hormone was used first from the pituitary gland of human cadavers. This was during the height of the aids scare so most bodybuilders wouldn't use it. This was early 80's maybe late 70's. The monkey derived one was also something bodybuilders talked about but no one knew anyone that used it prior to 1980's. No, I will bet Arnold, Franco, Zane, Mentzer, Robby, Padilla and the rest never used growth hormone or insulin. Their bodies are the smoking gun proof of that.
I know it was rarely used and expensive but it WAS around and a few experimented. Arnold used cadaver GH for a little while to experiment until he got put off by the stories. I forget my source but I think he said he tried it a few times or gh15 said it (if gh15 said it it must be true ;D). It was definitely not used enough to make any significant impact on the physique of any bodybuilder back then because it would be obvious as day.
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Equipose was not a steroid derived from horses. It was a steroid for horses. Some say it was the injectable form of Winstrol.
Um...isn't EQ more comparable to an injectable Dbol?