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Peggy Noonan?
« on: November 06, 2010, 12:20:15 PM »
What do you guys think of her work?  Credible?  She worked under Reagan, and wrote some of his best speeches.  She campaigned vigorously for GWBush. 

Peggy Noonan (born Margaret Ellen Noonan on September 7, 1950, in Brooklyn, New York) is an American author of seven books on politics, religion, and culture and a weekly columnist for The Wall Street Journal. She was a primary speech writer and Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan and in her political writings is considered a Republican.


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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2010, 12:25:03 PM »
She's turned into a complete joke who can't make up her mind on anyone, whether it be bush, obbama, palin, etc etc. 

Her articles are not even really taken seriously any more. 

One day Barry is the best, next day the worst.  One day Sarah is great, the next day she is a nincompoop, etc etc. 

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2010, 12:27:20 PM »
Do you agree or disagree with her here, 333386?



Excuse me, but this was ignorant even for Mrs. Palin. Reagan people quietly flipped their lids, but I'll voice their consternation to make a larger point. Ronald Reagan was an artist who willed himself into leadership as president of a major American labor union (Screen Actors Guild, seven terms, 1947-59.) He led that union successfully through major upheavals (the Hollywood communist wars, labor-management struggles); discovered and honed his ability to speak persuasively by talking to workers on the line at General Electric for eight years; was elected to and completed two full terms as governor of California; challenged and almost unseated an incumbent president of his own party; and went on to popularize modern conservative political philosophy without the help of a conservative infrastructure. Then he was elected president.

"The point is not 'He was a great man and you are a nincompoop,' though that is true," Noonan continues. "The point is that Reagan's career is a guide, not only for the tea party but for all in politics. He brought his fully mature, fully seasoned self into politics with him. He wasn't in search of a life when he ran for office, and he wasn't in search of fame; he'd already lived a life, he was already well known, he'd accomplished things in the world."

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2010, 12:27:32 PM »
LOL!  The Palin obsession continues.   :)

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2010, 12:28:45 PM »
Do you agree or disagree with her here, 333386?



Excuse me, but this was ignorant even for Mrs. Palin. Reagan people quietly flipped their lids, but I'll voice their consternation to make a larger point. Ronald Reagan was an artist who willed himself into leadership as president of a major American labor union (Screen Actors Guild, seven terms, 1947-59.) He led that union successfully through major upheavals (the Hollywood communist wars, labor-management struggles); discovered and honed his ability to speak persuasively by talking to workers on the line at General Electric for eight years; was elected to and completed two full terms as governor of California; challenged and almost unseated an incumbent president of his own party; and went on to popularize modern conservative political philosophy without the help of a conservative infrastructure. Then he was elected president.

"The point is not 'He was a great man and you are a nincompoop,' though that is true," Noonan continues. "The point is that Reagan's career is a guide, not only for the tea party but for all in politics. He brought his fully mature, fully seasoned self into politics with him. He wasn't in search of a life when he ran for office, and he wasn't in search of fame; he'd already lived a life, he was already well known, he'd accomplished things in the world."


She took one comment and blew it way out of porportion.  it was ridiculous. 

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2010, 12:37:33 PM »
LOL!  The Palin obsession continues.   :)

Brutal attack the messenger technique there, hoss.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2010, 12:42:45 PM »
Brutal attack the messenger technique there, hoss.

Yes, it is.  But its true.   :)

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2010, 12:48:07 PM »
Yes, it is.  But its true.   :)

youre a moderator and a respected member of society.  act like it.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 12:49:04 PM »
youre a moderator and a respected member of society.  act like it.

lol

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 12:50:33 PM »
youre a moderator and a respected member of society.  act like it.

240 - you honestly make me spit food out sometimes you are so funny.   ;D  ;D

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Noonan: Palin a 'Nincompoop'
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 05:44:17 PM »
I think Peggy Noonan is just jealous!  >:(
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Conservative columnist and former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan doesn't like people demeaning the Gipper's legacy, not even Sarah Palin, and not even if she's only talking about the former president's Hollywood career.

She writes in her latest column of a recent incident in which Sarah Palin attempted to explain away a Karl Rove criticism over her "reality show" by drawing parallels to former president Ronald Reagan's silver screen career, including his roles in movies such as "Bedtimes for Bonzo, bozo or something":

    Excuse me, but this was ignorant even for Mrs. Palin. Reagan people quietly flipped their lids, but I'll voice their consternation to make a larger point. Ronald Reagan was an artist who willed himself into leadership as president of a major American labor union (Screen Actors Guild, seven terms, 1947-59.) He led that union successfully through major upheavals (the Hollywood communist wars, labor-management struggles); discovered and honed his ability to speak persuasively by talking to workers on the line at General Electric for eight years; was elected to and completed two full terms as governor of California; challenged and almost unseated an incumbent president of his own party; and went on to popularize modern conservative political philosophy without the help of a conservative infrastructure. Then he was elected president.

"The point is not 'He was a great man and you are a nincompoop,' though that is true," Noonan continues. "The point is that Reagan's career is a guide, not only for the tea party but for all in politics. He brought his fully mature, fully seasoned self into politics with him. He wasn't in search of a life when he ran for office, and he wasn't in search of fame; he'd already lived a life, he was already well known, he'd accomplished things in the world."

Though Noonan's piece is not simply a jab at Palin, but rather a larger message about the real political significance of one's actions and accomplishments, as well as the necessity to "earn your way into politics," it's also worth noting that Noonan has never shied away from writing confrontational columns about the former Alaska Governor.

From Palin's coming out party until her decision to step down as Governor of the Frontier State, Noonan has made it clear that she doesn't jive with the "mama grizzly" brand of politics.
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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2010, 06:33:44 AM »
Noonan ,like all conservatives that go to MSNBC is a gutless coward[other then Buchannon].She is so scared to lose her job she wont give an opinion.Little difference between her and Joe Scarborough.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2010, 06:37:01 AM »
Awww...former right wing darling Noonan thinks Caribou Barbie is an IDIOT, and now the Tea Baggers are ready to hang her. What a shame.
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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2010, 06:42:52 AM »
here's the thing tho - everyone attacks her, that's cool... but that article... it's pretty accurate.

reagan served two terms as the largest population state in America.
palin served half a term (of which she was running for vp 50% of the time) for a state with the smallest population.

His experience dwarfs hers. 

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2010, 06:46:37 AM »
here's the thing tho - everyone attacks her, that's cool... but that article... it's pretty accurate.

reagan served two terms as the largest population state in America.
palin served half a term (of which she was running for vp 50% of the time) for a state with the smallest population.

His experience dwarfs hers. 
OF COURSE it does. Any comparison is nonsensical.
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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2010, 08:05:49 AM »
OF COURSE it does. Any comparison is nonsensical.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2010, 08:28:01 AM »
here's the thing tho - everyone attacks her, that's cool... but that article... it's pretty accurate.

reagan served two terms as the largest population state in America.
palin served half a term (of which she was running for vp 50% of the time) for a state with the smallest population.

His experience dwarfs hers. 

Why ANYONE compares Palin to Reagan is beyond my understanding.In fact,anyone who compares ANYONE to Reagan is an idiot.He was a giant among midgets..However,her expieriance DWRAFED Obamas before he became president.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 08:37:19 AM »
PALIN was the one who compared herself to reagan.

She pointed out that he made a great president despite startting in movies, so she would make a fine president as well based upon her reality series.

She failed to mention he served as a union (SAG?) president for a long time, then governor for 2 FULL terms.

She's a cheerleader/attack dog.  It's that simple.  Tony Robbins gives great motivational speeches too, but I sure as hell woudln't want him carrying the nuclear football.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2010, 09:00:48 AM »
PALIN was the one who compared herself to reagan.

She pointed out that he made a great president despite startting in movies, so she would make a fine president as well based upon her reality series.

She failed to mention he served as a union (SAG?) president for a long time, then governor for 2 FULL terms.

She's a cheerleader/attack dog.  It's that simple.  Tony Robbins gives great motivational speeches too, but I sure as hell woudln't want him carrying the nuclear football.

That is a total distortion of what she said.Chris Wallace was quotting Carl Rove who said that Palins reality show hurt her gravitas in a presidential bid.She pointed out Reagan was in the movies and one called bowling for Bonzo[or whatever]and that didnt hurt him and then pointed out that her show wasnt a reality show and Rove even had the network it was on wrong.NEVER once did she say she was like Reagan,never once did she compare herself to Reagan.As usual,your lying when it comes to Palin.If your going to attack her,attack her on things she actually did or said,not on something MSNBC said she did or said.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2010, 09:19:23 AM »
That is a total distortion of what she said.Chris Wallace was quotting Carl Rove who said that Palins reality show hurt her gravitas in a presidential bid.She pointed out Reagan was in the movies and one called bowling for Bonzo[or whatever]and that didnt hurt him and then pointed out that her show wasnt a reality show and Rove even had the network it was on wrong.NEVER once did she say she was like Reagan,never once did she compare herself to Reagan.As usual,your lying when it comes to Palin.If your going to attack her,attack her on things she actually did or said,not on something MSNBC said she did or said.

yes, a reality show is something that a president SHOULD NOT DO.  Rove is right about the gravitas of the job.  yes, reagan did movies.  But he was a dignified dude.  Palin is, sorry yall, just not dignified.  You know this.

Obama is a bowing suckup socialist - but he is still capable of carrying himself with dignity in int'l situations.  palin will be farting and giggling and making it all about herself in these situations.  Rove konws it.

Rove was right about ODonnell.  And he's right about Palin.  She will blow a sure thing in 2012, and most of you know it.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2010, 09:21:10 AM »
yes, a reality show is something that a president SHOULD NOT DO.  Rove is right about the gravitas of the job.  yes, reagan did movies.  But he was a dignified dude.  Palin is, sorry yall, just not dignified.  You know this.

Obama is a bowing suckup socialist - but he is still capable of carrying himself with dignity in int'l situations.  palin will be farting and giggling and making it all about herself in these situations.  Rove konws it.

Rove was right about ODonnell.  And he's right about Palin.  She will blow a sure thing in 2012, and most of you know it.

Thune/Christie -   Done Deal to defeat Obama in MEGA TSUNAMI 

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2010, 09:22:48 AM »
yes, a reality show is something that a president SHOULD NOT DO.  Rove is right about the gravitas of the job.  yes, reagan did movies.  But he was a dignified dude.  Palin is, sorry yall, just not dignified.  You know this.

Obama is a bowing suckup socialist - but he is still capable of carrying himself with dignity in int'l situations.  palin will be farting and giggling and making it all about herself in these situations.  Rove konws it.

Rove was right about ODonnell.  And he's right about Palin.  She will blow a sure thing in 2012, and most of you know it.

So,you agree she never compared herself to Reagan which was my point.Her show is not a reality show,its a nature show on the beuty of Alaska.Rove is a f'n idiot who helped sink ODonnell.Rove is a major reason why the republicans lost the house and senate in the first place.

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 09:24:32 AM »
Thune/Christie -   Done Deal to defeat Obama in MEGA TSUNAMI  

you say this now - but then you post 30 palin pictures and start 12 threads about her.

33, youre smart enough to know palin will probably lose to obama - polls show that - but I think youre just too darn smitten with her to come out and say 'she's a bag of shit, period'.  This return to, "but she loves america"... is such a distraction.  

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Re: Peggy Noonan?
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2010, 09:25:53 AM »
\.Rove is a f'n idiot who helped sink ODonnell.\

Bullshit.  please stop repeating that DeMint standard line.

Rove KNEW she was a witch, claiming chinese top clearance, full of shit on so many levels.  He was HONEST from minute one.  he didn't sink her - remember the assload of $ she got following her win against castle? 

blame rove, but you're wrong - she was a shitty canddiate.  Rove would have never said a thing - she still would have lost by 17.