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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Marble on March 21, 2005, 08:44:22 PM
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hello general, i'm a resident jackass from your excellent hardcore section here at getbig. if it applies to you, you should visit it more often. there are many smart people eager to help and more insight and research are always valuable. ;D
forum-pimping aside, i need your help. i want to see if i can come up with an idea of what causes palumboism beyond "massive drug use". :P to do so, i need to develop an exact symptomology, because i think it's something categorically different from what ronnie, jay, etc. develop. i have a few hypotheses as to causes, but these are some symptoms i think i see:
a) lipodystrophy, or abnormal fat distribution. apparently there's reduced limbic fat but greater trunk and visceral fat. this means arms and legs would still be very cut but your torso and abdomen in particular would always appear watery and bloated. is this a good observation?
b) muscle atrophy and wasting. is it particular muscle groups that seem to get hit worse? note that synthol use may mask some of the wasting in muscle groups where it can be used...
c) bloated head. this isn't so different from what ronnie et al have and is probably linked just to gh and not anything else.
d) other symptoms? anything particularly strange and interesting that all of them have in common?
big help everyone. thank you.
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I really wish the original palumbism thread was never deleted in that snafu months ago. What a shame. Whoever authored it should replicate it as closely as possible to the original.
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what's a guy gotta do, post some pics or something? a simple "yuh-huh, i see that too, uh-huh." would suffice. 08
Marble...I think what it comes down to is knowing what you are doing...and also knowing your genetic limit.
Ronnie and Jay use BB as income..it's their bread and butter. they can't afford to look as bad as palumbo. Palumbo on the other hand treats himself like a third reich lab jew.
Jay's and Ronnie's "palumboism" is probably just as bad as Dave's, it's just that they are more muscular and have better genetics...so it offsets the bad sides...ie" their shoulders and arms are huge, so their trunk doesn't look as "bloated."
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I wrote this on another thread, regarding a fellow who is dangerously reaching into the early stages of Palumboism.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26765.0;id=22931;image)
First off, some parts of his back is looking great. Got to give credit for that. The chest looks good to.
But it is part of the problem as well.
I think the problem is that Shahriar Kamali has hurt his symmetry real bad with whatever extreme precontest protocols he uses.
Palumboism in its first stages will in most cases let the chest and back keep on growing, while the arms and the legs halts. The waist will grow, and the gut will protrude.
When was the last time the guy cleaned out? It's just like he's burned out majorly. Check the above pic, see how even though he's striking a pose, he can't hang with either of the offseason fatsos structurally. That's alarming.
Here's a pic of what Shahriar looked like when he was bursting on to the scene. Structurally challenged? Sure, somewhat, but still getting away with it due to great conditioning and great discipline.
He just seemed to be rushing it all too much, IMO.
I hope he can bounce back. He's a never was that hopefully can get his stuff together, by opting for a more moderate off/on policy, getting himself fresh again for battle. Then he can hope for maybe one day place in the money at the Olympia. If he qualifies.
Here's what he looked in the same pose when he made his pro debut:
(http://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2001/men/kamali02.jpg)
YIP
Zack
I am just guessing, but I believe that Palumboism in its first stages is about receptors quitting and the receptors that quit firsts are those located out in the limbs, hence the athropy, while the torso keeps on growing.
The growth hormone and insulin may have something to do with this. I don't have a fcuking clue really. What I do believe, is that the year-long cycles of certain pros and certain non-pro's, will result in shut down.
YIP
Zack
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I really wish the original palumbism thread was never deleted in that snafu months ago. What a shame. Whoever authored it should replicate it as closely as possible to the original.
What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?
Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders.
The condition is first characterised by the sudden development of an enormous midsection whereby the entire width of the trunk, ribcage and pelvis grows disproportionately whilst the oblique muscles will thicken rapidly and the abdomen will become distended with the patient unable to hold in their stomach.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal.jpg)
A particularly spectacular symptom used to confirm diagnosis are disproportionally small limbs on the otherwise gigantic upper body. This is first observed in the upper limbs, where the arms seem to remain in a catabolic shrinking state compared to the torso who's internal structures are growing out of control in all directions. The reasons for this are not yet understood. The quadraceps muscles of the legs also seem to be ever shrinking.
Overall a more neanderthal type structure develops:
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Greg_Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Neanderthal.gif)
In advanced Palumboism the outer dermis takes on a crackly brittle look, almost as if the patient has been glazed or varnished like a ceramic souvenier. The color of the skin will become uneven displaying varying hues and shades from grey to bright orange throughout the entire body, whilst the skin may appear weathered and abnormally aged.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.
Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.
Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.
What causes Palumboism ?
It is not fully known what causes the disease, although it is speculated that a genetic predisposition combined with an over reliance on high and never ending doses of various anabolic drugs accompanied by a gradual 'shut down' or mutation of the patient's own endiginous endocrine system possibly awakening dormant cro-magnonesque genes are causative factors.
Although Palumboism shares some symptoms with Acromegaly it should not be confused due to the additional conditions described above when making a diagnosis.
Treatments
There is no known cure for Palumboism, as long as the patient remains on his drug regimen there is little comfort and the condition will continue to deteriorate.
Promptly discontinuing drug use may halt further development of the condition although it cannot be fully reversed.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal-action.gif)
Palumboism in women
Although Palumboism can occur in the female sex it is extremely rare for the condition to reach the advanced stages witnessed in men, therefore accurate and prompt diagnosis becomes more difficult.
Whilst it should be noted that female Palumboism must not be directly confused with the seperate condition of virilization which is more commonly encountered, more cases of female Palumboism are being diagnosed and reported everyday.
(http://sicktracks.com/images/bass.jpg)
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(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
This is the best post I've read here for quite some time! Simply brilliant!! ;D ;D ;D
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DEFCON that was an amazing post.
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Sticky time...It's time for a re-study on this....
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(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal.jpg)
HOLY SHIT! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you save this? It sounds awfully familiar to the original diagnosis a few months back. In any case, thank you for that good laugh.
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The original was authored by a guest named "Lancet". I think that must have been Defcon under a pen-name because this post seems identical.
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i'm not convinced there's that much materially different in the compounds available to or used by kovacs, palumbo & crew vs. jay & ronnie. palumbo in particular prided himself on being pharmacologically astute, and look what happened to the guy. :'(
"receptors quitting" isn't a very good explanation, because receptors just don't really do that in most models. rats are bioengineered with some very severe gh- and igf-related genetic disruptions that are worse than anything these guys could live through.
there's something in medicine that reeks of palumboism. this isn't to suggest that this is what's happening to them. but its causes have been heavily analyzed, and the effects of whatever they've used might be intersect at some point with what these drugs do. the etiology of lipodystrophy in AIDS is unknown, but look at the lipodystrophy associated with HAART anti-retroviral therapy:
http://www.aegis.com/factshts/network/simple/lipodys.html
"The signs of lipodystrophy are a swollen belly along with loss of tissue from the face, arms and legs. The loss of fat from the face can give an appearance of sunken eyes and sticking-out cheekbones. The combination of extra fat around the belly and loss of tissue from the arms and legs can look similar to the effects of very poor nutrition. Lipodystrophy also looks a bit like wasting, which used to be a common problem in people with AIDS."
insulin resistance and hyperlipidemia are both heavily associated with lipodystrophy, the first of which can be a side of GH abuse. one possible explanation may simply be they've used far too much GH, but i don't buy it -- acromegaly, even untreated, certainly doesn't lead to a phenotype anything like... that. :-X
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ive noticed with pros suffering from palumboism start to use synthol too.
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i'm not convinced there's that much materially different in the compounds available to or used by kovacs, palumbo & crew vs. jay & ronnie. palumbo in particular prided himself on being pharmacologically astute, and look what happened to the guy. :'(
"receptors quitting" isn't a very good explanation, because receptors just don't really do that in most models. rats are bioengineered with some very severe gh- and igf-related genetic disruptions that are worse than anything these guys could live through.
there's something in medicine that reeks of palumboism. this isn't to suggest that this is what's happening to them. but its causes have been heavily analyzed, and the effects of whatever they've used might be intersect at some point with what these drugs do. the etiology of lipodystrophy in AIDS is unknown, but look at the lipodystrophy associated with HAART anti-retroviral therapy:
http://www.aegis.com/factshts/network/simple/lipodys.html
"The signs of lipodystrophy are a swollen belly along with loss of tissue from the face, arms and legs. The loss of fat from the face can give an appearance of sunken eyes and sticking-out cheekbones. The combination of extra fat around the belly and loss of tissue from the arms and legs can look similar to the effects of very poor nutrition. Lipodystrophy also looks a bit like wasting, which used to be a common problem in people with AIDS."
insulin resistance and hyperlipidemia are both heavily associated with lipodystrophy, the first of which can be a side of GH abuse. one possible explanation may simply be they've used far too much GH, but i don't buy it -- acromegaly, even untreated, certainly doesn't lead to a phenotype anything like... that. :-X
There goes Marbles on one of his rages again...Did anyone else get lost on that??
Goddamn Bio-chemists... >:(
:P
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There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.
Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.
Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.
I like how you refer to these people as patients LOL.
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As much as I'd like to take credit for the "Diagnosing Paluboism" post, I can't. Back when it was originally posted I loved it so much I uploaded the pics to my own server and posted it on my website. It's a club music related site with a message board. There's also a small section devoted to fitness and stuff. Everyone over there loved it too. I'm glad I saved it because I didn't realize it was deleted over here.
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F*ckin A, it's annoying and gay.
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That was the exact post I remember from last year. We will have to bump this up every now and then to keep this thread on the main page.
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That was the exact post I remember from last year. We will have to bump this up every now and then to keep this thread on the main page.
yes, it's the exact post. I took great care in preserving it. Even down to the the bold lettering. ;D
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yes, it's the exact post. I took great care in preserving it. Even down to the the bold lettering. ;D
Kudos for doing that. We all missed this post greatly.
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This is a classic post. A lot of pros are starting to look like palumbo these days.
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Palumboism = God dealt you a crappy hand at genetics, and you should have stuck to flipping burgers. Look at there early pics, it was all there from the beginning.
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This is a trip.................... .. ???
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Booooooooom Babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :o
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Shawn, starting another feud I see.......
BTW, those are funny.
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THIS IS THE FUNNIEST SHIT I'VE READ ALL YEAR.
NICE ALIEN-PALUMBO PIC SHAWN!!!!
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Final Stage
(http://www.krankhaft.de/cards/turner.jpg)
Final Stage
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cripes, you guys are all useless. ;D
here's my best guess: excessive use of GH in particular causes a great degree of fat cell death, but a certain amount of fat is necessary to live, so palumboism is the adaptation. severe gh abuse also leads to some amount of insulin resistance(which may be related to the changes in fat cells), another known part of the cause of lipodystrophy. hyperlipidemia from androgens wouldn't help. this would all mirror the lipoatrophy seen from PI and HAART, but with a different cause; in fact, part of the treatment for that form is, ironically, GH itself.
so the net effect of the lipoatrophy and lipogenesis would be the division and creation of the more hardy fat cells centrally located, as well as a loss of intra-muscular and peripheral fat. some bodybuilders try to make up for this with large amounts of site oil (palumbo). muscle groups where this can't be done well turn to twigs (forearms, thighs).
the so-called GH gut is probably more directly caused by slin and LR3IGF-I in serious dosages. GH in particular actually can reduce the gut(at lower dosages) via downregulation of PPARgamma expression. this same downregulation is part of what kills fat cells off. LR3IGF-I increases muscle sensitivity and doesn't fiddle with the PPARgamma receptor like that; in fact, it can cause expression of PPARg mRNA. so, it wouldn't cause palumboism the same way GH would, but it will lead to greater intestinal hyperplasia and hypertrophy.
now i'm crawling back to the hardcore board where i belong. :-X
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freakin hilarious! i haven't been on here for a good 3-4 months and i see the rebirth of the palumboism thread! amazing...
for old time sakes:
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cripes, you guys are all useless. ;D
here's my best guess: excessive use of GH in particular causes a great degree of fat cell death, but a certain amount of fat is necessary to live, so palumboism is the adaptation. severe gh abuse also leads to some amount of insulin resistance(which may be related to the changes in fat cells), another known part of the cause of lipodystrophy. hyperlipidemia from androgens wouldn't help. this would all mirror the lipoatrophy seen from PI and HAART, but with a different cause; in fact, part of the treatment for that form is, ironically, GH itself.
so the net effect of the lipoatrophy and lipogenesis would be the division and creation of the more hardy fat cells centrally located, as well as a loss of intra-muscular and peripheral fat. some bodybuilders try to make up for this with large amounts of site oil (palumbo). muscle groups where this can't be done well turn to twigs (forearms, thighs).
the so-called GH gut is probably more directly caused by slin and LR3IGF-I in serious dosages. GH in particular actually can reduce the gut(at lower dosages) via downregulation of PPARgamma expression. this same downregulation is part of what kills fat cells off. LR3IGF-I increases muscle sensitivity and doesn't fiddle with the PPARgamma receptor like that; in fact, it can cause expression of PPARg mRNA. so, it wouldn't cause palumboism the same way GH would, but it will lead to greater intestinal hyperplasia and hypertrophy.
now i'm crawling back to the hardcore board where i belong. :-X
That was well written. You should be involved in the Palumboism handbook and subsequent website.
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That was well written. You should be involved in the Palumboism handbook and subsequent website.
However, he could have just made all of that up and I wouldn't know any better. ALmost all of it was unintelligeable to the common man.
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Booooooooom Babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :o
Few things make me laugh like i did when i saw this post ;D
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However, he could have just made all of that up and I wouldn't know any better. ALmost all of it was unintelligeable to the common man.
that's ok, it sounded good!
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Marble...I think what it comes down to is knowing what you are doing...and also knowing your genetic limit.
Ronnie and Jay use BB as income..it's their bread and butter. they can't afford to look as bad as palumbo. Palumbo on the other hand treats himself like a third reich lab jew.
Jay's and Ronnie's "palumboism" is probably just as bad as Dave's, it's just that they are more muscular and have better genetics...so it offsets the bad sides...ie" their shoulders and arms are huge, so their trunk doesn't look as "bloated."
That the answer. Palumbo, while havening great genetics, their not as good as
Ronnie's or Jay's just to name 2, is constantly playing the size game at all costs. He genetically maxed out a few years ago, but inseasts that more is better. He could easily IMO been a top pro if he didn't experiment on himself with all the androgens.
The 2005 Dave Palumbo doesn't even resemble, bodywise, the Dave of the early 90S. A lesson to be learned.
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even though daves physique looks bad, hes still a hell of a nice guy. ive yet to meet a pro or top amatuer that would openly give advice on supplements like him. i think the main reason why he is so popular is becuase hes such a nice guy.
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even though daves physique looks bad, hes still a hell of a nice guy. ive yet to meet a pro or top amatuer that would openly give advice on supplements like him. i think the main reason why he is so popular is becuase hes such a nice guy.
how hard is it to give advice on supplements? I get asked almost every day and I always give a good answer. I'm a nice guy too!
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even though daves physique looks bad, hes still a hell of a nice guy. ive yet to meet a pro or top amatuer that would openly give advice on supplements like him. i think the main reason why he is so popular is becuase hes such a nice guy.
Advices coming from Palumbo...
It's not like he's the greatest poster boy for how to use gear, you think? ;D
It just blows my mind that he actually has a column in MD where he gets to hand out advices on the hardcore aspect of bodybuilding. Palumboism, hallo?!!
Yeah, likeable fellow. But healthy looking?
YIP
Zack
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yes but he makes alot more money then many pros do and he isnt even a pro.
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yes but he makes alot more money then many pros do and he isnt even a pro.
Selling fake GH must be very profitable for Dave. I wonder if he hustles his commissary inside of prison.
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He won't be making much money any longer.
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heres jay and corimer pre-gh abuse... notice how jays jawline is more normal and how corimier doesnt have the mushroom cloud head.
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WOW. Cormier used to have a normal head :o :o
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Now, I'm not tryin to diss anyone or get involved in the whole palumbo haten thing, but, I've been looking at that issue that causes stomach distension in a very simple way.
How do almost all pros look when they first come on to the scene? GREAT! Usually top-notch with symmetry and all. Look at Ronnie when he first turned pro- 2000, Or Titus when he was an amateur; amazing structure with nothing popping out in weird places, etc.
Fast forward to 5-10 years later when the athlete makes a lot more money and has been on the scene for a while, and poof! The aesthetics are gone, along with a bigger face (yes it's true), and overall a much wider, thicker bone structure.
If you look at the pros that were always good - and probably never went overboard with relying on "something new" to get the "new look", they never had that problem. ( Example: Ray, Levrone, and all of the pre GH/Slin bodybuilders). If you also look at athletes with limited income - I'll use Darrem Charles as an example; he never had that type of problem. (neither did he ever make any drastic jumps in competitive bodyweight from year to year). I'm pretty sure that genetic predisposition has something to do with it, however, that's a different story. Seeing what happens to those that suffer from the complication, would you really leave the decision to use Gh/slin to chance of genetic predisposition? I know I wouldn't...
If you look at it closely, you'll find that the athletes that are cashing in, and making drastic jumps in bodyweight with evident GH/Insulin use are those with this complication. I'm sure that we all noticed Flex Wheeler's gut in the later days of his career. I'm sure that wasn't there when he first came on the scene and in the comeback he make in '02.
Ask yourself this, which pre 1985 bodybuilder had that complication? None that I know of... What came onto the scene in the 90's and became more and more popular in the late 90's? GH and Insulin right? Which one is it? I have no clue, but I think it would be wise to stay away from both.
Personally, like I've stated, I never used GH or Slin. I've been bodybuilding for 8 years and my waist looks better and better every year i compete. Yea yea, I'm not one of the biggest guys on stage, neither am I pro or even close yet, but honest to God - I'd rather have my physique than Say Kovacs's or Titus's, or even a '97 Dorian. Jay cutler is starting to fall into that too. You can see it in his lower abdominals, and his waist is getting even wider.
Take it as you will, the bottom line is that it's pretty evident that the issue arose after the increased use/abuse of GH/Slin.
it's a combination of the two. GH produces more IGF-I which upregulates insulin receptors and causes its own growth. in-vitro tests have been performed on human intestinal cells and the combination of IGF-I + slin is most potent, followed by IGF-I+ slin + GH, followed by slin + GH, followed by GH, followed by slin, followed by IGF-I on its own. go fig. GH by itself is almost entirely for bone growth and so-called mushroom head; ;D IGF-I and slin won't do much here for various reasons.
whether lower doses of LR3IGF-I on its own causes any hypertrophy is debatable, and this might be a very good use of the drug. what's also interesting is that the trophic effect is biphasic -- that is, there's a particular concentration where growth is optimally stimulated, and past there it actually gets *worse*. how much worse further down the line, i don't know. there's major synergy between slin and igf-i though on the trophy of the jejunum and duodenum. we're talking 1+1=17 grade synergy. ;D
palumboism, however, is something entirely different than simple intestinal hypertrophy. ronnie and jay get major guts but their muscles don't shrink and they still get stupid shredded around the midsection. this is a separate phenomenon.
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does he still have that Bodybuilder girlfriend ?
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I understand what you are saying. From my speculation though, the complication targets older athletes such as Don youngblood, Kovacs, etc. That being said, I still haven't seen "palumboism" in pre 90's athletes. It only further proves the point that I'm trying to make that these "new" drugs, whether it be IGF-1, GH, Slin, or what have you are the cause of the complication. Furthermore, since the athletes that suffer from the complication are significantly older athletes trying to compete with the younger guys, it leads me to believe that they are trying everything they can to beat out the newcomers. I know my theory is WAY simplified, but to me it makes sense. That's how I will avoid the complication (or both as you put it), in any case. ;)
Shari has Palumbism and he is relatively young.
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All this stuff is very funny. But, I can't help feeling sorry for Palumbo. He has f'd himself up bigtime. I can't imagine what he will look like in 10 years (if he lives that long).
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Personally, like I've stated, I never used GH or Slin.
...and then, all of a sudden, bodybuilding had a future.
YIP
Zack
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All this stuff is very funny. But, I can't help feeling sorry for Palumbo. He has f'd himself up bigtime. I can't imagine what he will look like in 10 years (if he lives that long).
it's roughly the functional equivalent of extreme type 2 diabetes + really high cholesterol + acromegaly. i think the second half (lives that long) is more important than the first (whether he looks okay).
i feel terrible for the guy too. there's a thin line between passion and mental illness in our sport...
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it's roughly the functional equivalent of extreme type 2 diabetes + really high cholesterol + acromegaly. i think the second half (lives that long) is more important than the first (whether he looks okay).
i feel terrible for the guy too. there's a thin line between passion and mental illness in our sport...
Also the problem that when there's evidence suggesting that our lifestyle is unhealthy, eg high protein diets or steroid use, we're quick to question the source, but when research is backing us up, we are not as critical.
Considering my high protein diet of 200+ grams of protein per day, it would not be a very pleasant thing to read that it was devastating to my health to be on such a diet. Just exemplifying.
It's good to be critical, but it should go both ways. Also when the evidence presented is supporting our cause.
I think we need to seriously need to ask what was up with the lifestyle of the Ironagers, since so many of them are having heart problems. It's not only Arnold. There are plenty of others. One have to make the assumption that their diet was above average in quality in comparison to the average American, yet they're suffering from numerous helath problems.
Instead of just referring to statistical invarities, I think the sensible approach would be to see what could be done to prevent these medical problems.
I am by no means an expert in the field assisting substances. I just feel that it's a shame that so many people's health seem to be failing because the general attitude is that it's quite harmless if done correct. Well, then show those who now use how to use it without corrupting their healths.
here endeth the rant. Sorry for messing with a glorious thread BTW...
YIP
Zack
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YIP
Zack
oh, i try to be balanced and honest even when it goes against what i'm doing. i've changed my stance on numerous substances, most particularly milk thistle. it's the only way to make rational decisions. i don't think anything i said here exactly supports palumboism, which is an amazing phenomenon. :o
their heart and cardiovascular symptoms are due unquestionably to their severe use of steroids. period. this is the biggest and most dangerous side effect of androgens; it's growth of the left ventricle, high blood pressure, and hyperlipidemia all in one unholy melange of doom. you can manage these side effects, particularly through megadoses of garlic and wise use of fish oil, mild diuretics, vitamin b5, and other drugs, but it's going to cause plenty of damage. you won't find anyone on the hardcore board who denies this. hell, one of our current threads is entitled, "any regrets?" we know and acknowledge the risks, and like to frame our board in the context of safety first, as best you can when messing with these chemicals.
personally, i've often listened to NIN's "Hurt" while shooting...
that said, steroids will not lead to gut enlargement beyond increasing intra-abdominal adiposity, and certainly won't cause palumboism.
fyi, high protein diets are only dangerous if you have pre-existing kidney problems. they're quite bad in that situation, but otherwise you'll be fine. :)
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fyi, high protein diets are only dangerous if you have pre-existing kidney problems. they're quite bad in that situation, but otherwise you'll be fine. :)
Yeah, I was just making an example which would apply to myself. It's easy for me to just say Go Natural! in regards to ergogenics. But I thought back of when I read a report on how high protein was bad, and how I treated that report, instantly trying to find studies that proved it wrong, which I did.
I sometimes read threads on the hardcore board, and you all seem, as you claim, realistic. Not that my opinion counts for much, since I got no knowledge.
Back to Palumboism:
Is it possible that the receptors get shut down permanently through continous use? And that the receptors in the limbs gets shut down first? Hence causing the atrophy in legs and arms seen clearly in both Kovacs and Palumbo. Could the GH somehow be blamed?
Just asking some questions here, not making statements.
YIP
Zack
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Is it possible that the receptors get shut down permanently through continous use? And that the receptors in the limbs gets shut down first? Hence causing the atrophy in legs and arms seen clearly in both Kovacs and Palumbo. Could the GH somehow be blamed?
sort-of. it's probably a chain that looks something like this(independent of growth of bones & gut):
gh megadoses -> fat cell necrosis -> insulin resistance -> diabetes + lipodystrophy -> limb atrophy
(arrow down)
androgen megadoses -> hyperlipidemia + visceral adiposity ^
adiponectin probably mediates a lot of these flows, but i've just begun learning about that hormone. apparently the imbalance is only temporary, and goes away when gh is ceased, but the effects caused during the imbalance are permanent. the reason limbs atrophy first is that the fat cells there are simply more vulnerable. intra-muscular fat is important for muscle function and mass, and when insulin sensitivity drops your muscles everywhere will shrink. think nicely marbled steak. ;D
i'd kill for the full text of this article:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15573230
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i'd kill for the full text of this article :o
http://www.smj.org.sa/PDFFiles/Nov04/14Dysregulation20040120.pdf
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i'd kill for the full text of this article :o
http://www.smj.org.sa/PDFFiles/Nov04/14Dysregulation20040120.pdf
you're the man, asshole. ;D time to go bury myself in it. thanks so much for the help, and take care. :)
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The final aftermath of palumboism?
(http://img126.exs.cx/img126/1708/palumbo8yo.jpg)
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Shameless bump.
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As much as I'd like to take credit for the "Diagnosing Paluboism" post, I can't. Back when it was originally posted I loved it so much I uploaded the pics to my own server and posted it on my website. It's a club music related site with a message board. There's also a small section devoted to fitness and stuff. Everyone over there loved it too. I'm glad I saved it because I didn't realize it was deleted over here.
Im glad you saved it also-but is that the whole post? I thought it was longer.
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Im glad you saved it also-but is that the whole post? I thought it was longer.
No, I think that is it. Maybe it was shorter than you remembered it. He claims that he saved the entire post.
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newly diagnosed cases
(http://img136.echo.cx/img136/2098/weirdo1xb.jpg)
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newly diagnosed cases
(http://img136.echo.cx/img136/2098/weirdo1xb.jpg)
lol.. ik thought 240 would make the palumboism website?
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The gut is bad....but damn he is huge! :o
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Damn, I suddenly lost my appetite watching this topic :-X
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Shameless bump.
You fucking slut! :D
Cesar from GTA would slit you from knees to nutz...... >:(
Palumboism is a microcosm of several factors, it's not one all encompassing "disease". :-X
Kovacs has always had bad genetics for bodybuilding, he should have stayed with powerlifting, his poundages are higher than anyone, including Coleman.
Like others have stated, Palumbo maxed out his genetic potential and then some years ago, what you see now is the degradation. Not sure if it's receptor downgrade/shutdown as that is a speculative topic, but it's obvious that whatever he's doing his muscles aren't responding anymore. He's atrophying before our eyes.
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The final aftermath of palumboism?
(http://img126.exs.cx/img126/1708/palumbo8yo.jpg)
PWAHAHAHHAHAw!!!!
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Kovacs has always had bad genetics for bodybuilding, he should have stayed with powerlifting, his poundages are higher than anyone, including Coleman.
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I'm not so sure he was as strong as Coleman. Every picture I saw with Kovacs involved a smith machine.
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I'm not so sure he was as strong as Coleman. Every picture I saw with Kovacs involved a smith machine.
You transfer his legpress maxes to squats and he easily outpushes Coleman.....Not to mention Coleman's form isn't exactly "proper".
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There was a time when Kovacs looked half decent as a bodybuilder.
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There was a time when Kovacs looked half decent as a bodybuilder.
True.
That was the best Kovacs ever looked as a bodybuilder, after that everything snowballed. Amazing how we can look back on these things in retrospect and realize that it was his prime. :'(
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Dave Palumbo or whatever the hell his name is, is a TRUE example of how FAKE bodybuilding has become. ANYONE with extremely poor genetics can make it in this sport, you just have to be crazy/dumb enough to inject 101 sorts of drugs.
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The gut is bad....but damn he is huge! :o
gotta admit he looks awesome in that pic.
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a) lipodystrophy, or abnormal fat distribution. apparently there's reduced limbic fat but greater trunk and visceral fat. this means arms and legs would still be very cut but your torso and abdomen in particular would always appear watery and bloated. is this a good observation?
excellent observation...
on palumbo the skin around the abdominal reagion looks wierd...bumpy..aged??
..and there is no seperation from muscle to muscle...its like someone smeared em all over his body..
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on palumbo the skin around the abdominal reagion looks wierd...bumpy..aged??
..and there is no seperation from muscle to muscle...its like someone smeared em all over his body..
the skin is actually the largest human organ, and gh causes it to thicken considerably as well.
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the skin is actually the largest human organ, and gh causes it to thicken considerably as well.
The more we learn about GH, the more it seems like it's overrated.
The risks seems to outweigh the rewards...... :P
Doesn't help that most of these IFBB pros megadose on it.
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Booooooooom Babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :o
Shawn, remember when you did this to Kamili? Get ready for some flaming. Glass houses.
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does anyone else see the resembelence?
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does anyone else see the resembelence?
anyone else have pictures of a backstreet boy on their computer?
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anyone else have pictures of a backstreet boy on their computer?
No, but you knew it was a "backstreet boy" ;D
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does anyone else see the resembelence?
LOL!!!
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No, but you knew it was a "backstreet boy" ;D
Wait, let me salvage 240's masculinity and destroy my own at the same time:
That guy's from 98 Degrees. :-X
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Wait, let me salvage 240's masculinity and destroy my own at the same time:
That guy's from 98 Degrees. :-X
thanks man.
way to back the bus over yourself to save me from the shame.
Of course, I'd like to prove my masculinity another way.
I'd be willing to bang Jessica Simpson, and while rifling through her dresser for money (as she tries to repair her broken anus), I could find a 98 degree cd and see if Zach is correct.
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I suspect 240 has been overdosing on porn . In fact I've been suspecting this for some tme now. . .
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I suspect 240 has been overdosing on porn . In fact I've been suspecting this for some tme now. . .
actually i don't watch much.
what has led to your assessment?
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Dave Palumbo or whatever the hell his name is, is a TRUE example of how FAKE bodybuilding has become. ANYONE with extremely poor genetics can make it in this sport, you just have to be crazy/dumb enough to inject 101 sorts of drugs.
Um ::)....ok.....
He has a gut...but when u get size and conditioning like that, it has something to do with genetics. I assume you workout and therefore go to the gym regularly. I also assume you have seen some heavily juiced people there. How many of them are as big as Palumbo? How many pro's who inject juice like they inhale air, are as large as Palumbo? So although his gut waistline is large, you can not deny his size and conditioning is rarely matched.
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Dave is undoubtedly a genetic freak. He is in contest ready condition pretty much 365 days a year.
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neanderthal characteristics exhibited, widened waist and obliques, shadow of former best, diagnosis advanced palumboism
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0223.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0230.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0231.jpg)
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Full name is Gregory Mark Kovacs, born December 16, 1968 in Niagara Falls, New York. Height 6'3". Raised and lives in Fonthill, Ontario, Canada. Went to college for one year for electrical engineering. Married to Kim.
Contests include the 1995 North American 11th; 1996 Canadian 1st HW and overall; 1997 Night of Champions 16th; 1998 Ironman Pro 14th; 2001 Night of Champions 18th;
Holy shit. Kovacs was born in 1968. He's only 35???
He looks 50.
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Full name is Gregory Mark Kovacs, born December 16, 1968 in Niagara Falls, New York. Height 6'3". Raised and lives in Fonthill, Ontario, Canada. Went to college for one year for electrical engineering. Married to Kim.
Contests include the 1995 North American 11th; 1996 Canadian 1st HW and overall; 1997 Night of Champions 16th; 1998 Ironman Pro 14th; 2001 Night of Champions 18th;
Holy shit. Kovacs was born in 1968. He's only 35???
He looks 50.
i would even say possibly more than that if i saw him in the street
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That guy's from 98 Degrees. :-X
Zachary.......that's blasphemy what you just said. :-X
I hope your soul can recover. :'(
Holy shit. Kovacs was born in 1968. He's only 35???
He looks 50.
That's scary. :-\
So what will he look like when he's actually 50?
His face looks much older than his age.
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You transfer his legpress maxes to squats and he easily outpushes Coleman.....Not to mention Coleman's form isn't exactly "proper".
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Proper? lol I bet he uses much better form than you and anyone here. Kovacs is an ugly fuck, no way is he stronger than Ronnie. If he is, then show me proof.
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Proper? lol I bet he uses much better form than you and anyone here. Kovacs is an ugly f**k, no way is he stronger than Ronnie. If he is, then show me proof.
I have no proof, just like I have no proof that Coleman does proper form on squats or does them without kneewraps and squatsuit. ::)
Feel me?
Who cares what Kovacs look like? I wasn't talking about that.
I like how you follow my statements with logical questions.... :P
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1968 means he is 36, turning 37 this year.
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Holy shit! Whoever said he made improvements from the Arnold is an idiot.
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0229.jpg)
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(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0231.jpg)
He might look bad, but could you imagine how gigantic this guy would be in person??
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He might look bad, but could you imagine how gigantic this guy would be in person??
That kind of ties in to why I said he should go in to powerlifting.
He's built for that.....
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That kind of ties in to why I said he should go in to powerlifting.
He's built for that.....
Or pro wrestling. I just couldn't even guess how imposing this guy must be in person.
He makes Bob and Mustafa look like children!
(http://www.flexonline.com/contests/arnold2004/menpre/images/acb0565.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/contests/arnold2004/menpre/images/acb0563.jpg)
I'll say it again - I couldn't imagine how imposing he would look in person. :o
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Well said like a true muscle whorshipper.
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Or pro wrestling. I just couldn't even guess how imposing this guy must be in person.
He makes Bob and Mustafa look like children!
(http://www.flexonline.com/contests/arnold2004/menpre/images/acb0565.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/contests/arnold2004/menpre/images/acb0563.jpg)
I'll say it again - I couldn't imagine how imposing he would look in person. :o
well at 6'3 he would do that. But he doesnt have one body part bigger than bob or mustafa there except for his waist
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Isn't GH supposed to make you reverse aging?
What gives?
Is it only low doses that does that perhaps? Greg looks old and weary. I don't think it's funny anymore. I just feel sorry for him, and every year he gets to live without any health problems, I think is a great thing.
All the best wishes goes out to Kovacs. He did it all to himself, he's got nobody to blame but himself. Still I hope he will live as good as he can and as long as possible.
YIP
Zack
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the guy honestly does look like a living frankenstein!
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I had to bump this thread--DefCon's post is one of the most horrifyingly funny things I've ever read on these boards.
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This should be a sticky. This is a classic thread. Not as great as the original, but still good.
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Ribcage expansion occurs with certain exercises; it pushes out your abdominal wall. Unfortunately the greatest area of expansion is in the flexible lower ribcage. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/Skeleton.jpg)
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well at 6'3 he would do that. But he doesnt have one body part bigger than bob or mustafa there except for his waist
Just to stir it up a bit...
The first time I met Greg was back in 99 at a competition inWindsor Canada, and indeed he was the single largest most imposing figure of a man I had ever seen. He was offseason (of course!) and claimed to weigh about 412lbs. I'm about the same height and at the time about 270lbs but I felt like an absolute child standing next to this behemoth. His arms were still at their astoundingly largest size at this point (yet to succumb to the atrophy and other ravages of so called - "palumboism") and the sheer width and breadth of the mans torso was mind boggling. I beleive Ernie Taylor was guest posing that day and he greeted Greg, again only to be dwarfed by him. Just to be clear, I'm not making any statements as to how he looked under his "busting at the seams" golf shirt, just that he was undeniably imposing.
The only other man I've met whom shared a similarly imposing physique is the late Trevor Smith. Similar reaction to him but truly a gently giant.
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I hope for gregs sake he can add back that mass and not worry about competing, but just do the strong man stuff. He would surely make more money than he does now
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I had to bump this thread--DefCon's post is one of the most horrifyingly funny things I've ever read on these boards.
Where the fuck is DEFCON anyway?
That nugga been AWOL!!! >:(
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Where the fuck is DEFCON anyway?
That nugga been AWOL!!! >:(
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I thought he was also MassWithClass, the mayhemer that died at 37 of organ failure, rip.
That wasn't him? Somebody told me that... I hope not. That story is fucking scary.
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I thought he was also MassWithClass, the mayhemer that died at 37 of organ failure, rip.
That wasn't him? Somebody told me that... I hope not. That story is fucking scary.
That's a rumor, bro.
Fuck that.....
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What's wrong with Palumbo's look?
Yours,
GV
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Glad somebody revived this before it died out.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26737.0;id=40853;image)
^What's wrong with that chick? :-[
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These pictures make me want to take massive amounts of drugs and throw my gains in the gutter. Nothing worse than a roid defect.
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^What's wrong with that chick? :-[
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thats a chick?
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These pictures make me want to take massive amounts of drugs and throw my gains in the gutter. Nothing worse than a roid defect.
Croatcher........I've been trying to convince you to turn to the "DarkSide" for awhile now.
There's nothing more for you in this world.......it's time to turn a new leaf and reach new plateaus.
Grab your nuts and take the plunge.
No regrets......
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The Synthol Olympia will be friggin' AWESOME.. :P
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Uh oh..
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Uh oh..
We've got leakage....... :-\
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Uh oh..
How often do you see stretch marks on the outer delts , LMFSO.
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Nasser is going to be the new Palumbo if he doesn't retire.
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Ummm, Nasser's still competing?? ???
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Let's find out.
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The Synthol Olympia will be friggin' AWESOME.. :P
That dude on the right injected Synthol on his abs ;D
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all good theroies on Pulomboism.Another thing it resembles is somthing called cushing syndrom.A condition of high cortisol thats symptoms include skinny limbs,and a big belly and trunk.When your on high doses of abs for an extended amount of time your imune system gets verylow and your body starts to release a lot of cortisol. The reson some proes dont get it could be they go off for a while.Like Ronnie he goes off for quite a few mos after the olympia.Just a theorie
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all good theroies on Pulomboism.Another thing it resembles is somthing called cushing syndrom.A condition of high cortisol thats symptoms include skinny limbs,and a big belly and trunk.When your on high doses of abs for an extended amount of time your imune system gets verylow and your body starts to release a lot of cortisol. The reson some proes dont get it could be they go off for a while.Like Ronnie he goes off for quite a few mos after the olympia.Just a theorie
That's pretty good...marble would be proud and I wish we could hear his take on this angle.
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all good theroies on Pulomboism.Another thing it resembles is somthing called cushing syndrom.A condition of high cortisol thats symptoms include skinny limbs,and a big belly and trunk.When your on high doses of abs for an extended amount of time your imune system gets verylow and your body starts to release a lot of cortisol. The reson some proes dont get it could be they go off for a while.Like Ronnie he goes off for quite a few mos after the olympia.Just a theorie
GOOD THEORY.
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GOOD THEORY.
YES! EXCELLENT THOERY...oppss...all caps..me bad....
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YES! EXCELLENT THOERY...oppss...all caps..me bad....
DON'T YOU MEAN "MY"? IDIOT.
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why isn't this a sticky yet?
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we isn't this a sticky yet?
It's bullshit I tell ya. >:(
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we isn't this a sticky yet?
WE NEED MORE CRAIG TITUS STICKIES BEFORE EVEN THINKING ABOUT MAKING THIS ONE A STICKY.
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YES! EXCELLENT THOERY...oppss...all caps..me bad....
I think you mean " oops." And for what it's worth, no one cares about upper case. And I think you spelled THEORY incorrectly.
Big Ronnie Abston MBA, LLB
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I think you mean " oops." And for what it's worth, no one cares about upper case. And I think you spelled THEORY incorrectly.
Big Ronnie Abston MBA, LLB
No...opppssss is the way you spell it.........And I think everyone cares about upper case!
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That's pretty good...marble would be proud and I wish we could hear his take on this angle.
We need to bring back the Marble...... :-\
He was the nugga that made things flow.......
He bridged gaps, made connections......
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No Ron, it's oops.
Big Ronnie Abston MBA, LLB
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Palumbo on the other hand treats himself like a third reich lab jew.
;D LOL ;D
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neanderthal characteristics exhibited, widened waist and obliques, shadow of former best, diagnosis advanced palumboism
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0223.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0230.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/05contests/05Toronto/menpre/images/aaat0231.jpg)
This is going to sound odd, but don't you think someone would have told him (a friend, perhaps?) that his conditioning just isn't all there? Even if you have never stepped on a stage, can you just tell by the pics and photos of the shows what the level of competition is? I just don't get it...
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The Synthol Olympia will be friggin' AWESOME.. :P
Those two are absolutely the stupidest looking f*ckwipes I have ever had the displeasure of looking at. What the f*ck is wrong w/those idiots??
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2 comments:
1. This is the best thread ever!
2. Yes! Bring back Marble!
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Is Palumbo's sorry ass ever going to compete again?
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Is Palumbo's sorry ass ever going to compete again?
Bodybuilders always make comebacks ;D
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it's not only palumbo with a severe drug problem. it goes everywhere and anywhere in bodybuilding/fitness. if you think that jason cutler is less of an abuser/user/dealer of drugs than palumbo then something is severely wrong with your head. any one that achieved his/her pro card...infact any one that achieved top amatuer status and sadly many who are simply average amature joes is/are deeply involved with hormones and many are involved with other pain meds and some kind of narcotics.
NOW i do understand that this post will be erased sooner or later but do not be fooled. from the "representetive" bobbie to the average criminal the murderer...from amatuer palumbo to new pro marcus....it is all involved with severe usage of hormones and in many times pain killers and the regular x and weed that they sell out at clubs/apts before they get their pro cards for quite a few years while they party around. pay attention im not talkin nothing here about the gay/gay for pay side of the game which is not needed at the moment.
there is a lot to tell and probably a book is the right place to do it but this is not the time yet! there are powers standing behind the ifbb. men that have nothing to do with being a bodybuilder. from old joe to the ones bobbie is kissing ass to average promoters. there is more than you think to this stories.
now you will ask me how do i know. i know because majority of them goes through me in some way or another with out them even knowing it inorder to get their products. yes yes even the home brews are made out of something that comes from us even the ones who think they are all safe and get the ug products and not the name brands have something to do with us. egolds wu wire transfers cc person to person transfers, face to face transfers, buying in mx or getting from your friend who works in a warehouse at a medical supply company...everything has its price.
some will say what i say is bullshit some will know its not. to me it dont matter as of now since im still in the game for quite few more years. the moment i retire when im back home for good a book will be published and along with this book there will be action. a real action that wont involve only baseball players. the only diff between this book and the ones published already will be the facts written inside and the backup for those facts. reason i will do it is kids. in the last few years something very bad happening and no one says nothing. it will stop when im retired
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gh15, i'd buy that book!
and if you need help selling / promoting it, look me up ;)
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Bodybuilders always make comebacks ;D
Maybe he'll compete in the PDI.
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Maybe he'll compete in the PDI.
Yeah, it would be hardcore to see him face of with Rhino. Battle of the Uberfreaks!
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in the last few years something very bad happening and no one says nothing. it will stop when im retired
Can you give us a hint or something ?
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it's not only palumbo with a severe drug problem. it goes everywhere and anywhere in bodybuilding/fitness. if you think that jason cutler is less of an abuser/user/dealer of drugs than palumbo then something is severely wrong with your head. any one that achieved his/her pro card...infact any one that achieved top amatuer status and sadly many who are simply average amature joes is/are deeply involved with hormones and many are involved with other pain meds and some kind of narcotics.
NOW i do understand that this post will be erased sooner or later but do not be fooled. from the "representetive" bobbie to the average criminal the murderer...from amatuer palumbo to new pro marcus....it is all involved with severe usage of hormones and in many times pain killers and the regular x and weed that they sell out at clubs/apts before they get their pro cards for quite a few years while they party around. pay attention im not talkin nothing here about the gay/gay for pay side of the game which is not needed at the moment.
there is a lot to tell and probably a book is the right place to do it but this is not the time yet! there are powers standing behind the ifbb. men that have nothing to do with being a bodybuilder. from old joe to the ones bobbie is kissing ass to average promoters. there is more than you think to this stories.
now you will ask me how do i know. i know because majority of them goes through me in some way or another with out them even knowing it inorder to get their products. yes yes even the home brews are made out of something that comes from us even the ones who think they are all safe and get the ug products and not the name brands have something to do with us. egolds wu wire transfers cc person to person transfers, face to face transfers, buying in mx or getting from your friend who works in a warehouse at a medical supply company...everything has its price.
some will say what i say is bullshit some will know its not. to me it dont matter as of now since im still in the game for quite few more years. the moment i retire when im back home for good a book will be published and along with this book there will be action. a real action that wont involve only baseball players. the only diff between this book and the ones published already will be the facts written inside and the backup for those facts. reason i will do it is kids. in the last few years something very bad happening and no one says nothing. it will stop when im retired
finally someone speaks the truth...The funny thing is that alot of people really believe that cutler -ronnie ect don't even use oil...They believe that shoulders really do shoot straight up or when their whole body is cut to shreads but their shoulders and arms don't have a visable cut in them...Its genetics...
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OMG after reading and looking over this thread I don't think I will ever take GH. That shit is disgusting. I thought we were trying to shape our bodies to look like greek gods not fuc*ing monkey men. That's seriously repulsive. I do have to thank palumbo and kovacs though for being guinea pigs and ruining their bodies so I won't make that same future mistake. God Bless them.
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OMG after reading and looking over this thread I don't think I will ever take GH. That shit is disgusting. I thought we were trying to shape our bodies to look like greek gods not fuc*ing monkey men. That's seriously repulsive. I do have to thank palumbo and kovacs though for being guinea pigs and ruining their bodies so I won't make that same future mistake. God Bless them.
It would appear that Kovacs and Palumbo both went a little over the standard 200-400 mgs per week of 'roids and 2 iu's per day of GH.
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So, have both Palumbo and Kovacs finally seen the light and formally retired? I wonder how big Kovacs waist is. 50 inches?
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finally someone speaks the truth...The funny thing is that alot of people really believe that cutler -ronnie ect don't even use oil...They believe that shoulders really do shoot straight up or when their whole body is cut to shreads but their shoulders and arms don't have a visable cut in them...Its genetics...
Shoulders shooting straight up? I've only seen Cutler's do that. Ronnie's arms always have cuts. Are you okay? :-\
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ma fucka
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ma fucka
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I think he mispelled mother.
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I think he mispelled mother.
;D, but what was he trying to say?
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;D, but what was he trying to say?
He was trying to establish his ghetto fabulous gramma!
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New evidence just in:
(http://www.flexonline.com/06contests/06ny/indiv/images/FDBE0239.jpg)
YIP
Zack
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I don't really have anything against the guy but he starting to show signs isn't he.
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Classic symptoms displayed here. Arms appear small, waist bloated out. Tan not quite right, strained smile, small forearms and legs shrinking. Neanderthal facial features increasing.
This is definelty an advanced case
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where's the pic??
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Honory bump for Kamali keepin it real :)
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Classic symptoms displayed here. Arms appear small, waist bloated out. Tan not quite right, strained smile, small forearms and legs shrinking. Neanderthal facial features increasing.
This is definelty an advanced case
hold up a second King ALWAYS had VERY small arms
so it is hard to say palumboism based on the arms, but you're right his midsection looks terrible. He clearly has a tremendous amount of intra-abdominal fat / organ growth
King you should seek legal counsel, you may have a case against Chad
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King you should seek legal counsel, you may have a case against Chad
I would imagine that teh Chad has his "athletes" sign a legal waiver absolving him of any responsibility for the problems they encounter as a result of his "help" (and likely denying any such help was offered or given in the first place). This would likely explain why he apparently has suffered no criminal or civil repercussions for past incidents alledged to have happened as a direct result of his services.
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I would imagine that teh Chad has his "athletes" sign a legal waiver absolving him of any responsibility for the problems they encounter as a result of his "help" (and likely denying any such help was offered or given in the first place). This would likely explain why he apparently has suffered no criminal or civil repercussions for past incidents alledged to have happened as a direct result of his services.
But is that contract binding? If he is engaging in illegal activity, maybe it's not. Of course, bodybuilders won't want to take it to court because they will also be implicated for engaging in the activity.
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But is that contract binding? If he is engaging in illegal activity, maybe it's not. Of course, bodybuilders won't want to take it to court because they will also be implicated for engaging in the activity.
Good question. I'm not a lawyer, but my guess is that the contract would specify that he was being hired strictly as a nutritional adviser, and that the athletes are agreeing to only accept advice on diet and perhaps use of otc supplements.
I suppose he'd probably have something in there about the athletes consenting that they are in good health to their knowledge. The contract could possibly state that he and they are acknowledging that they are not engaging in any illegal or potentially dangerous activities, and that they have the choice to follow his advice or not.
Perhaps this would absolve him from any accountability if the athletes were given any off-the-record verbal "suggestions" that may not be legal and / or safe. But this is all just speculation on my part. Are there any lawyers reading this board?
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Damn Kamali's Legs are like the Pistons vs Cavs...
NO SWEEP
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If the terrible Dorian vs. Ronnie thread won't die, this one shouldn't either
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THIS IS THE FUNNIEST SHIT I'VE READ ALL YEAR.
I take it you missed the "Vince Thread"? :D
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again, can't let this thread die
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addition
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=88614.0
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It would appear that Kovacs and Palumbo both went a little over the standard 200-400 mgs per week of 'roids and 2 iu's per day of GH.
The current IFBB and NPC guys have a word for someone who only does 200 mg/ test and 2 iu's/ gh: "natural". ::)
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The current IFBB and NPC guys have a word for someone who only does 200 mg/ test and 2 iu's/ gh: "natural". ::)
;D
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will palumbo ever compete again?
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is palumboism named after david?...serious question....and who came up with this disease?
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is palumboism named after david?...serious question....and who came up with this disease?
yes, it is named after him
it isnt an official disease. about two yrs ago, some guest with the handle "Lancet" posted it originally. it was obviously intended as a joke, but it is an interesting phenomenon
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What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?
Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders.
The condition is first characterised by the sudden development of an enormous midsection whereby the entire width of the trunk, ribcage and pelvis grows disproportionately whilst the oblique muscles will thicken rapidly and the abdomen will become distended with the patient unable to hold in their stomach.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal.jpg)
A particularly spectacular symptom used to confirm diagnosis are disproportionally small limbs on the otherwise gigantic upper body. This is first observed in the upper limbs, where the arms seem to remain in a catabolic shrinking state compared to the torso who's internal structures are growing out of control in all directions. The reasons for this are not yet understood. The quadraceps muscles of the legs also seem to be ever shrinking.
Overall a more neanderthal type structure develops:
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Greg_Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Neanderthal.gif)
In advanced Palumboism the outer dermis takes on a crackly brittle look, almost as if the patient has been glazed or varnished like a ceramic souvenier. The color of the skin will become uneven displaying varying hues and shades from grey to bright orange throughout the entire body, whilst the skin may appear weathered and abnormally aged.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.
Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.
Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.
What causes Palumboism ?
It is not fully known what causes the disease, although it is speculated that a genetic predisposition combined with an over reliance on high and never ending doses of various anabolic drugs accompanied by a gradual 'shut down' or mutation of the patient's own endiginous endocrine system possibly awakening dormant cro-magnonesque genes are causative factors.
Although Palumboism shares some symptoms with Acromegaly it should not be confused due to the additional conditions described above when making a diagnosis.
Treatments
There is no known cure for Palumboism, as long as the patient remains on his drug regimen there is little comfort and the condition will continue to deteriorate.
Promptly discontinuing drug use may halt further development of the condition although it cannot be fully reversed.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal-action.gif)
Palumboism in women
Although Palumboism can occur in the female sex it is extremely rare for the condition to reach the advanced stages witnessed in men, therefore accurate and prompt diagnosis becomes more difficult.
Whilst it should be noted that female Palumboism must not be directly confused with the seperate condition of virilization which is more commonly encountered, more cases of female Palumboism are being diagnosed and reported everyday.
(http://sicktracks.com/images/bass.jpg)
Excellent post.
Bump.
YIP
Zack
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(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
lats and nice pointy tricep
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(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/NPC_Nationals/2002/Nationals_049.jpg)(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dave_Palumbo/Dave_Palumbo_03.jpg)
Nice improvement in tri/bi area... 8)
YIP
Zack
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(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/NPC_Nationals/2002/Nationals_049.jpg)(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dave_Palumbo/Dave_Palumbo_03.jpg)
Nice improvement in tri/bi area... 8)
YIP
Zack
You know you are in great condition when the scar tissue in your but is striated
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dave_Palumbo/Dave_Palumbo_03.jpg)
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Seems like some of the effects of gh is reversable. The facial features is anyway. Not sure if all effects of it can be reversed though as acromelagy enlarges bone structure aswell.
Interesting article. Video to:
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2293003&page=2
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I wonder if Palumbo has ever seen this thread
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You know you are in great condition when the scar tissue in your but is striated
(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dave_Palumbo/Dave_Palumbo_03.jpg)
HOly crap this guy has the worst physique ever......this is a classic case and example of HOW NOT TO DO IT, people.
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There's been some speculation that the ageing process itself contributes to Palumboism, since you never really see it in guys in their 20's, but it could simply be because a dozen or so years worth of 'roid/gh/insulin abuse may be required to produce the negative effects characteristic of this syndrome. It should also be noted that, like most diseases, some individuals seem to be genetically more susceptible to it than others. More research is definitely needed. I think some medical researcher needs to apply for a grant to further study this dreadful condition that is Palumboism.
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There's been some speculation that the ageing process itself contributes to Palumboism, since you never really see it in guys in their 20's, but it could simply be because a dozen or so years worth of 'roid/gh/insulin abuse may be required to produce the negative effects characteristic of this syndrome. It should also be noted that, like most diseases, some individuals seem to be genetically more susceptible to it than others. More research is definitely needed. I think some medical researcher needs to apply for a grant to further study this dreadful condition that is Palumboism.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=91183.msg1314106#msg1314106
looks like there is already a fund dedicated to the cause..
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This tread should have a sticky :P
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This tread should have a sticky :P
I know, what is wrong with the mods here
We have to keep bumping this thread to make sure it never dies
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Isnt Palumbo supposed to be real knowledgable about all the forms of gear? I think he writes a column on the subject for some magazine, and has some kind of medical degree from college.
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Isnt Palumbo supposed to be real knowledgable about all the forms of gear? I think he writes a column on the subject for some magazine, and has some kind of medical degree from college.
I remember reading in an inty that MuscleMag did with him that he was well-educated, but when it comes to pharmaceuticals, he seems to be little more than one of those dime-a-dozen "gurus" who give out advice that best suits them rather than anyone else. And as you can see from the above photos, you'd be well-advised to look elsewhere.
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this was easily the best thread i've ever seen on here...Palumboism with pictures to go with it and some medical terminology...Brilliant!!
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Isnt Kovacs looking better these days?
I didnt think you could improve once you were screwed.
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Palumbo was supposedly studying to be an MD. I don't know what happended lol. That physique is terrifying.
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He figured out that he couldn't prescribe to himself. Pretty soon we will be talking about "Anthonyism"
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Adonism?
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Palumbo was supposedly studying to be an MD.
You misunderstood... he was studying to work at MD.
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correct.... he now gives his advice on how to permanantly shut off your own test production forever. Almost as much of a disgrace as his lil cronie Valvalino.
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Palumbo's physique might b terrifying...
but he's still a Hit with the girls!!!
(http://www.bodybuildingquebec.ca/Colette_Nelson.jpg)
I would leave anything behind for a hottie like this!!!
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has he retired?
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Palumbo's physique might b terrifying...
but he's still a Hit with the girls!!!
(http://www.bodybuildingquebec.ca/Colette_Nelson.jpg)
I would leave anything behind for a hottie like this!!!
that statement reveals everything about you that we will ever want to know. :'(
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bump ;D
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where is marble anyway ?
that guy is a genius
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where is marble anyway ?
that guy is a genius
Thats what I would like to know, he left here about a year and a half ago. Not sure what happened but the guy was doing some kind of medical reasearch or something for a living.
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*bump* for MD Spammers! ;D
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*bump* for MD Spammers! ;D
Rofl... this is a thread that must be bumped from time to time so the new commers can learn of this terrible disease.
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Rofl... this is a thread that must be bumped from time to time so the new commers can learn of this terrible disease.
Exactly. We bump it every couple of months so it never dies.
I wish Avidan would just pin the thing and save us the trouble.
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Exactly. We bump it every couple of months so it never dies.
I wish Avidan would just pin the thing and save us the trouble.
exactly
maybe ron is afraid of offending his buddy dave
palumbo must know by now that he is known as exhibit a for what you would NOT want to look like
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http://www.sadgamer.com/~milkmandan/SA/Bump.jpg (http://www.sadgamer.com/~milkmandan/SA/Bump.jpg)
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And to think this mutant is giving advices on physique development in MD. hahaha.
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And to think this mutant is giving advices on physique development in MD. hahaha.
this thread should never be viewed around meal time
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people wonder why bodybuilding is declining. Exhibit A should be Kovacs, followed by Palumbo.
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this thread should never be viewed around meal time
Or prior to sexual activity........it kills the mood....
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this is one of my favs on here for sure....Dr. Palumbo at his best...He looks like a pink flamingo with T/rex arms
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I really just think the pics are from an angle and pose that don't favor Dave's physiqe. There are pics of Palumbo I have seen where he looks awesome.
Why all the hatered toward the guy for the way you guys feel he looks? I dont think he ever said he was the best, or act at all cocky about his body, so why continue to beat the man up about it? Seems kind of grade school if you ask me.
I loved marble but man it was inconsiderate of him to start this thread using Dave or any particular person as an example.
Marble please take care of this.
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I really just think the pics are from an angle and pose that don't favor Dave's physiqe. There are pics of Palumbo I have seen where he looks awesome.
Why all the hatered toward the guy for the way you guys feel he looks? I dont think he ever said he was the best, or act at all cocky about his body, so why continue to beat the man up about it? Seems kind of grade school if you ask me.
I loved marble but man it was inconsiderate of him to start this thread using Dave or any particular person as an example.
Marble please take care of this.
What are you talking about?
Modern bodybuilding is failing. It is obvious for everyone to see. One of the main reasons, IMO, is because physiques like Palumbo's make people immediately disgusted upon sight. It's not like it happened by accident either. I mean the type of shit he must have taken to ruin his body in this way would probably boggle one's mind.
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What are you talking about?
Modern bodybuilding is failing. It is obvious for everyone to see. One of the main reasons, IMO, is because physiques like Palumbo's make people immediately disgusted upon sight. It's not like it happened by accident either. I mean the type of shit he must have taken to ruin his body in this way would probably boggle one's mind.
Modern Bodybuilding?
Regular people have always thought physiqes of the top guys were "disgusting" That why Im not sure why you say bodybuilding is failing? It never was and never will be more than a niche "sport" What do you feel bodybuilding should be? Like the NFL or baseball in popularity? Its better off being basicaly underground anyhow, then it can stay pure, to the few 100,000 in the world that pursue it hardcore.
And IMO like I have said I have seen pics of Palumbo where he looked pretty damn good. But it is all subjective. A piece of art or whatever may look great in your eyes, but I may think it sucks, really no reason to start talking someone down and calling them names.
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Marble please take care of this.
I don't think he can...he's been gone for a long time.
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I don't think he can...he's been gone for a long time.
Yeah I know, must admit was just trying to somehow draw the cat out, by some miracle.
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Yeah I know, must admit was just trying to somehow draw the cat out, by some miracle.
He is missed.
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huge285 03:35:44 PM Viewing the topic investigating "palumboism".
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huge285 03:35:44 PM Viewing the topic investigating "palumboism".
;D
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I really just think the pics are from an angle and pose that don't favor Dave's physiqe. There are pics of Palumbo I have seen where he looks awesome.
Why all the hatered toward the guy for the way you guys feel he looks? I dont think he ever said he was the best, or act at all cocky about his body, so why continue to beat the man up about it? Seems kind of grade school if you ask me.
I loved marble but man it was inconsiderate of him to start this thread using Dave or any particular person as an example.
Marble please take care of this.
Why all the hatred towards him? It's simple, people love to hate on those who've experienced any level of success...this is true in most aspects of life, but it goes to a higher level in the world of BB.
No sain individual can legitimately claim that he was/is not a great BB..they cannot say it and actually believe it. They may not like his look, but everyone has the "look" they like and the one they want. Take Dorian for instance, although a great BB, he doesn't have a lot of appeal to me. This doesn't make him any less of a great BB though.
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Why all the hatred towards him? It's simple, people love to hate on those who've experienced any level of success...this is true in most aspects of life, but it goes to a higher level in the world of BB.
No sain individual can legitimately claim that he was/is not a great BB..they cannot say it and actually believe it. They may not like his look, but everyone has the "look" they like and the one they want. Take Dorian for instance, although a great BB, he doesn't have a lot of appeal to me. This doesn't make him any less of a great BB though.
Jumbo looks like shit, small extremities and a huge GH Gut capped off with the ugliest melon on the face of the earth.
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Bump for research purposes ;D
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this post was the funniest thing.
"What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?
Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders."
lmao......comedy........
just for the record...who actually hit out with this term first???
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huge285 03:35:44 PM Viewing the topic investigating "palumboism".
;D ;D ;D ;D i guess its good to learn new things about yourself. hahaha.
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bump. this thread will never go away. ;D
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bump. this thread will never go away. ;D
I agree, we will never let it die!
If that stupid ass truce thread never dies, this one sure won't either
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has anyone ever seen Palumbo's mug shot? It has to out there somewhere...
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Yeah I know, must admit was just trying to somehow draw the cat out, by some miracle.
Marble has been put back on his shelf.....
He will never come back. :-X
DIV
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Are there any evolutionary advantages to advanced Palumboism? Maybe the formation of a second stomach with the ability to expell vomitus to the oral cavity for additional mastication?
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Are there any evolutionary advantages to advanced Palumboism? Maybe them formation of a second stomach with the ability to expell vomitus to the oral cavity for additional mastication?
Gills.
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huge285 03:35:44 PM Viewing the topic investigating "palumboism".
Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahah aha! ;D
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palumbo's wikipedia page...
Dave Palumbo is no longer competing as he is now focused on living longer.
Contents [hide]
1 Vital statistics
2 Competitive history
3 See also
4 External links
[edit] Vital statistics
Height: 4'7"
Contest weight: 962 lbs
Off-season weight: Around 612 lbs.
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palumbo's wikipedia page...
Dave Palumbo is no longer competing as he is now focused on living longer.
Contents [hide]
1 Vital statistics
2 Competitive history
3 See also
4 External links
[edit] Vital statistics
Height: 4'7"
Contest weight: 962 lbs
Off-season weight: Around 612 lbs.
It also mentions "Palumboism" (at least until the editors catch it. ;D)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Palumbo
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It also mentions "Palumboism" (at least until the editors catch it. ;D)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Palumbo
"Dave holds the distinction of being the only bodybuilder to have a disease named after him. (see "Palumboism", a disease seen only in long-time competitive bodybuilders using anabolic steroids, growth hormone, and insulin)"
Nice. ;D
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Palumboism doesn't have a link yet... :'(
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From Wiki:
"Dave holds the distinction of being the only bodybuilder to have a disease named after him. (see "Palumboism", a disease seen only in long-time competitive bodybuilders using anabolic steroids, growth hormone, and insulin)"
Quick, someone make a page for Palumboism!!
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Greg Kovacs looking young at 39!
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4zwr6l4.jpg)
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Greg Kovacs looking young at 39!
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4zwr6l4.jpg)
WTF?? Dude looks like he's in his 50's+
He did, however, have the worst case of Palumboism ever recorded... worse than Dave himself. Maybe the syndrome ages you as well?
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WTF?? Dude looks like he's in his 50's+
He did, however, have the worst case of Palumboism ever recorded... worse than Dave himself. Maybe the syndrome ages you as well?
IMO he doesn't look that old.. you're probably looking at all the muscle on his face...
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must...not...die...
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wow,
first time I read this thread.
I learn something new everyday.
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Greg Kovacs looking young at 39!
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4zwr6l4.jpg)
he has the face of a senior citizen. :-\
the video where all his horrible pics are taken from used to be on youtube and the guy looked like he was about to cry when he was walking off stage. :'(
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he has the face of a senior citizen. :-\
the video where all his horrible pics are taken from used to be on youtube and the guy looked like he was about to cry when he was walking off stage. :'(
yeah, it is horrible. he can't be more than about 40, but looks like 65
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bump ;D
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That was classic
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(http://i19.tinypic.com/4zwr6l4.jpg)
Oh my god! :o Kovacs should immediately get in touch with Dr. Kevorkian, I believe he was released from prison last month. Why even bother living out the last 3 or 4 years of his pathetic life :-[
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WTF?? Dude looks like he's in his 50's+
He did, however, have the worst case of Palumboism ever recorded... worse than Dave himself. Maybe the syndrome ages you as well?
You guys are confusing Palumboism with Kovacitis.
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There's a new form of Palumboism: "Preformative Palumboism, Billy guns Variant". Subjects with out the matching muscularity of more advanced patients mysteriously wither away and form many of the facial features of someone with this disease. An added symptom is intense facial acne. Also known as "Fetal Alcohol Palumboism"
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There's a new form of Palumboism: "Preformative Palumboism, Billy guns Variant". Subjects with out the matching muscularity of more advanced patients mysteriously wither away and form many of the facial features of someone with this disease. An added symptom is intense facial acne. Also known as "Fetal Alcohol Palumboism"
Some medical experts suspect that some of the gear Palumbo sells is contaminated with a previously unknown strand of flesh eating virii.
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Greg Kovacs looking young at 39!
(http://i19.tinypic.com/4zwr6l4.jpg)
Looks like someone closing in on 60.
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"Preformative Palumboism, Billy guns Variant".
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Its like Palumbo's chest, arm and thigh muscles are rotting and his skull and guts keep gaining mass..........holy shit, that would suck
;D
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bump ;D ;D ;D
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it is irreversible, there is nothing you can take that will shrink down your skull or abdominal fat. You can always inject your arms/legs/chest with synthol on a daily basis i guess. ;D
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The one thing that remains a mystery is why some guys develop this while others don't
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Just a reminder that Dave Palumbo is still a hideous drugged up douchebag with a thing for retards and the penoris. Bibbbidddddddddddddddyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy BUMP!
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Just a reminder that Dave Palumbo is still a hideous drugged up douchebag with a thing for retards and the penoris. Bibbbidddddddddddddddyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy BUMP!
palumboism...
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Shari getting closer to the final stages of Palumboism.
Advance Palumboism:
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=164968.0;attach=190476;image)
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Best thread ever.
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One more bump for all the new little gimmick hatchlings :-\
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Best thread ever.
no doubt
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This should be a compulsory subject in med school
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palumboism---
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Legendary thread!
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* keepin' the thread alive
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i dont think there is any palumboism, i think it is just age...and I bet palumbo is a good 10 years older than he admits too.
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* keepin' the thread alive
Thanks ShiftedShapes!
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i dont think there is any palumboism, i think it is just age...and I bet palumbo is a good 10 years older than he admits too.
???
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
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what are Palumbo and Kovacks ages?...like I said I bet they are really 10 years older than they say they are. I would bet that Palumbo is 55.
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what are Palumbo and Kovacks ages?...like I said I bet they are really 10 years older than they say they are. I would bet that Palumbo is 55.
what makes you think that? I mean, they looked like their stated age for a long time and then all in the sudden they started to look ancient. I think the drugs are responsible, not age
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what makes you think that? I mean, they looked like their stated age for a long time and then all in the sudden they started to look ancient. I think the drugs are responsible, not age
because this "palumboism" if true would be happening to more bodybuiders than just a few here and there. They all take the same amount of stuff. I think Kovacks was probably late 40's close to 50 in those pics. Some people age earlier than others.
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I think Kovacks was probably late 40's close to 50 in those pics. Some people age earlier than others.
Try early 30's... he just looks older due to the palumboism.
He was born in 1968, and those pics were taken in early 03 at the ASC where he got dead last.
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Try early 30's... he just looks older due to the palumboism.
He was born in 1968, and those pics were taken in early 03 at the ASC where he got dead last.
I dont believe it, how do you know for sure....the whole industry lies all the time, they used to lie about roids.....why wouldnt they lie about their age? Im not knocking it but thats just the way it is.
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Born 1968 and it is now 2007 and you say early 30's where the hell did you go to school son?
The photos in question were taken in early 2003. ::)
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*bump* for Palumboism! :D
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*bump* for Palumboism! :D
classic thread no doubt
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classic thread no doubt
one of the best threads, no doubt.
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alright couple things...I've seen pics of palumbo where he looks pretty good but that one pic of him at nationals where he looked terrible, he got 2nd in the superheavies which is amazing heh..and dave is a much better nutritionist than he is bber. he is a really smart guy and down to earth guy too. ya he wasnt the best of bbers but he is good for the sport.
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is there a link for the original palumboism thread?
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alright couple things...I've seen pics of palumbo where he looks pretty good but that one pic of him at nationals where he looked terrible, he got 2nd in the superheavies which is amazing heh..and dave is a much better nutritionist than he is bber. he is a really smart guy and down to earth guy too. ya he wasnt the best of bbers but he is good for the sport.
Hi Dave!
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I spent the last full hour reading this entire thread. Unbelieveably funny. This is why I registered here at GB. I can see 'palumboism' being a topic discussed by The Surgeon General in the near future.
I can see the AMA legitimizing it as a real medical ailment.
FT-1
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I spent the last full hour reading this entire thread. Unbelieveably funny. This is why I registered here at GB. I can see 'palumboism' being a topic discussed by The Surgeon General in the near future.
I can see the AMA legitimizing it as a real medical ailment.
FT-1
-"The Master"
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-"The Master"
m-04
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Bump--this can't die.
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Bump--this can't die.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26737.0;attach=23090;image)
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Some people believe that when CERN hits the switch of there LHC(Large Hadron Collider) near Geneva Switzerland next month...And the particle's are smashed together to create black holes, that the earth will suck itself thru these holes and will cease to exist...
Some scientist have said that the only thing that will probably make it out alive is David Palumbo and a thing called the muscle phone...They believe that Palumbo will be left to tell the story of the elusive "God Particle" that is even beyound Einstein himself...Palumbo and this phone will be the only thing that can stand the Cosmic Rays that start the black holes...
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shawn is back?? ??? When did this happen?
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Some people believe that when CERN hits the switch of there LHC(Large Hadron Collider) near Geneva Switzerland next month...And the particle's are smashed together to create black holes, that the earth will suck itself thru these holes and will cease to exist...
Some scientist have said that the only thing that will probably make it out alive is David Palumbo and a thing called the muscle phone...They believe that Palumbo will be left to tell the story of the elusive "God Particle" that is even beyound Einstein himself...Palumbo and this phone will be the only thing that can stand the Cosmic Rays that start the black holes...
Hahaha, funny stuff.
-Zaphod
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ttt
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This thread will be bumped continuously for all time. ;D
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This thread will be bumped continuously for all time. ;D
CERN set it up this way...Palumbo is the key figure...And has the most knowledge to move from dimension to dimension and relay to those people about a world that once existed...
It all makes sense now...Walk into any Walmart and you will all see Palumboism to the utmost degree with people who never even touched a weight...I believe because of this, the David Palumbo is the chosen one...
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“Strided Glutes” gets him turned on :P ;D
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So, is Palumbo done competing?
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So, is Palumbo done competing?
Who cares. Thanks for bumping the thread, though! :D
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Looks like Desmond Miller will be the next victim.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220433.0;attach=258311;image)
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Looks like Desmond Miller will be the next victim.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=220433.0;attach=258311;image)
he miss the carb load ;D
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/1rt9og.jpg)
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(http://i30.tinypic.com/mr6xqg.jpg)
Initial stages for young trey
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(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
He seems like a great dude.
BUT I can´t believe this got second place in any comp with more the 2 competitors....
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bump..... ;D
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bump..... ;D
amazing contribution ::)
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/1rt9og.jpg)
Thats really intense
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Thats really intense
Whatchoo Talk'n 'Bout, Willis?
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2ur9gtt.jpg)
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Whatchoo Talk'n 'Bout, Willis?
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2ur9gtt.jpg)
More! More! :o
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More! More! :o
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2w3ubll.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/108is6d.jpg)
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Whatchoo Talk'n 'Bout, Willis?
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2ur9gtt.jpg)
WTF is that thing?
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missing link?
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WTF is that thing?
proof that even god has bad hair days
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proof that even god has bad hair days
god didn't make that thing, science did ;D
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WTF is that thing?
Disgusting...32 I.U's og HGH per day... :-\
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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X3264.jpg)
(http://www.flexonline.com/08contests/08olympia/men/jay_cutler/images/_MG_8630.jpg)
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What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?
Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders.
The condition is first characterised by the sudden development of an enormous midsection whereby the entire width of the trunk, ribcage and pelvis grows disproportionately whilst the oblique muscles will thicken rapidly and the abdomen will become distended with the patient unable to hold in their stomach.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal.jpg)
A particularly spectacular symptom used to confirm diagnosis are disproportionally small limbs on the otherwise gigantic upper body. This is first observed in the upper limbs, where the arms seem to remain in a catabolic shrinking state compared to the torso who's internal structures are growing out of control in all directions. The reasons for this are not yet understood. The quadraceps muscles of the legs also seem to be ever shrinking.
Overall a more neanderthal type structure develops:
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Greg_Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Neanderthal.gif)
In advanced Palumboism the outer dermis takes on a crackly brittle look, almost as if the patient has been glazed or varnished like a ceramic souvenier. The color of the skin will become uneven displaying varying hues and shades from grey to bright orange throughout the entire body, whilst the skin may appear weathered and abnormally aged.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.
Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.
Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.
What causes Palumboism ?
It is not fully known what causes the disease, although it is speculated that a genetic predisposition combined with an over reliance on high and never ending doses of various anabolic drugs accompanied by a gradual 'shut down' or mutation of the patient's own endiginous endocrine system possibly awakening dormant cro-magnonesque genes are causative factors.
Although Palumboism shares some symptoms with Acromegaly it should not be confused due to the additional conditions described above when making a diagnosis.
Treatments
There is no known cure for Palumboism, as long as the patient remains on his drug regimen there is little comfort and the condition will continue to deteriorate.
Promptly discontinuing drug use may halt further development of the condition although it cannot be fully reversed.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal-action.gif)
Palumboism in women
Although Palumboism can occur in the female sex it is extremely rare for the condition to reach the advanced stages witnessed in men, therefore accurate and prompt diagnosis becomes more difficult.
Whilst it should be noted that female Palumboism must not be directly confused with the seperate condition of virilization which is more commonly encountered, more cases of female Palumboism are being diagnosed and reported everyday.
(http://sicktracks.com/images/bass.jpg)
Quoted and bumped for brilliance
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Quoted and bumped for brilliance
Some one add the to Wikipedia. again ;D
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Bump...
this thread should never die!!! ;D
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Whatchoo Talk'n 'Bout, Willis?
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2ur9gtt.jpg)
That's a very nice, flowing physique. Truly the definition of aesthetic beauty.
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Quoted and bumped for brilliance
This needs to be Wiki'ed..
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What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?
Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders.
The condition is first characterised by the sudden development of an enormous midsection whereby the entire width of the trunk, ribcage and pelvis grows disproportionately whilst the oblique muscles will thicken rapidly and the abdomen will become distended with the patient unable to hold in their stomach.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal.jpg)
A particularly spectacular symptom used to confirm diagnosis are disproportionally small limbs on the otherwise gigantic upper body. This is first observed in the upper limbs, where the arms seem to remain in a catabolic shrinking state compared to the torso who's internal structures are growing out of control in all directions. The reasons for this are not yet understood. The quadraceps muscles of the legs also seem to be ever shrinking.
Overall a more neanderthal type structure develops:
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Greg_Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Neanderthal.gif)
In advanced Palumboism the outer dermis takes on a crackly brittle look, almost as if the patient has been glazed or varnished like a ceramic souvenier. The color of the skin will become uneven displaying varying hues and shades from grey to bright orange throughout the entire body, whilst the skin may appear weathered and abnormally aged.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.
Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.
Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.
What causes Palumboism ?
It is not fully known what causes the disease, although it is speculated that a genetic predisposition combined with an over reliance on high and never ending doses of various anabolic drugs accompanied by a gradual 'shut down' or mutation of the patient's own endiginous endocrine system possibly awakening dormant cro-magnonesque genes are causative factors.
Although Palumboism shares some symptoms with Acromegaly it should not be confused due to the additional conditions described above when making a diagnosis.
Treatments
There is no known cure for Palumboism, as long as the patient remains on his drug regimen there is little comfort and the condition will continue to deteriorate.
Promptly discontinuing drug use may halt further development of the condition although it cannot be fully reversed.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal-action.gif)
Palumboism in women
Although Palumboism can occur in the female sex it is extremely rare for the condition to reach the advanced stages witnessed in men, therefore accurate and prompt diagnosis becomes more difficult.
Whilst it should be noted that female Palumboism must not be directly confused with the seperate condition of virilization which is more commonly encountered, more cases of female Palumboism are being diagnosed and reported everyday.
(http://sicktracks.com/images/bass.jpg)
A true getbig classic.
Should be teached in schools.
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A true getbig classic.
Should be teached in schools.
Apparently, so should English. :-\
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Apparently, so should English. :-\
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teached
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teached
Just because it's in the "urban dictionary" ::) doesn't make it proper English, "m8".
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Just because it's in the "urban dictionary" ::) doesn't make it proper English, "m8".
"past tense and past participle of "teach". Commonly used in Trinidad by the most educated people."
Maybe your sarcasm detector is broken, "mate"?
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"past tense and past participle of "teach". Commonly used in Trinidad by the most educated people."
Maybe your sarcasm detector is broken, "mate"?
I like you.
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(http://i27.tinypic.com/2w3ubll.jpg)(http://i28.tinypic.com/108is6d.jpg)
WOW JUST FUCKING WOW!!!!!!!!!
I wonder what he sees in the mirror------he probably sees a mixture of Ronnie Coleman and Arnold looking back at him :-\
what a circus BBing is ??? :o :o
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Bump for the love of oil
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Thread.....must.....not. ....die.
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what's palumoism
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what's palumoism
I'm glad you asked:
What is Palumboism or Palumbism ?
Palumboism is a rare, complex disease only seen in the nether ranks of competitive bodybuilders.
The condition is first characterised by the sudden development of an enormous midsection whereby the entire width of the trunk, ribcage and pelvis grows disproportionately whilst the oblique muscles will thicken rapidly and the abdomen will become distended with the patient unable to hold in their stomach.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/kovacs4.jpg)
The condition is further characterised by chronic metamorphasies of the facial and cranial features, culminating in thick folds of dermal tissue round the mouth and thickening of the Levator labii. Mandibular and mental protuberance hypertrophy and overall cranial hyperplasia, accompanied by a dramatic increase in the size of the frontal ridge follows. Premature aging is also common with Palumboism
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal.jpg)
A particularly spectacular symptom used to confirm diagnosis are disproportionally small limbs on the otherwise gigantic upper body. This is first observed in the upper limbs, where the arms seem to remain in a catabolic shrinking state compared to the torso who's internal structures are growing out of control in all directions. The reasons for this are not yet understood. The quadraceps muscles of the legs also seem to be ever shrinking.
Overall a more neanderthal type structure develops:
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Greg_Kovacs.jpg)
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Neanderthal.gif)
In advanced Palumboism the outer dermis takes on a crackly brittle look, almost as if the patient has been glazed or varnished like a ceramic souvenier. The color of the skin will become uneven displaying varying hues and shades from grey to bright orange throughout the entire body, whilst the skin may appear weathered and abnormally aged.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/Palumbo_2.jpg)
There may also be a high level of vascular distension which never seems to go away in the patient, this will often result in veins having a 'worn out' apperance.
Perhaps the most unusual and distressing issue is that the patient seems totally unaware of what is happening to him.
Post mortem examination of patients sometimes reveals large quantities of a foreign oil-like substance in the biceps and anterior deltoid muscle heads.
What causes Palumboism ?
It is not fully known what causes the disease, although it is speculated that a genetic predisposition combined with an over reliance on high and never ending doses of various anabolic drugs accompanied by a gradual 'shut down' or mutation of the patient's own endiginous endocrine system possibly awakening dormant cro-magnonesque genes are causative factors.
Although Palumboism shares some symptoms with Acromegaly it should not be confused due to the additional conditions described above when making a diagnosis.
Treatments
There is no known cure for Palumboism, as long as the patient remains on his drug regimen there is little comfort and the condition will continue to deteriorate.
Promptly discontinuing drug use may halt further development of the condition although it cannot be fully reversed.
(http://www.sicktracks.com/images/neanderthal-action.gif)
Palumboism in women
Although Palumboism can occur in the female sex it is extremely rare for the condition to reach the advanced stages witnessed in men, therefore accurate and prompt diagnosis becomes more difficult.
Whilst it should be noted that female Palumboism must not be directly confused with the seperate condition of virilization which is more commonly encountered, more cases of female Palumboism are being diagnosed and reported everyday.
(http://sicktracks.com/images/bass.jpg)
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that shit is scary :o
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I'm glad you asked:
That info should be posted on wikiPedia no joke.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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That info should be posted on wikiPedia no joke.
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Google "palumboism"... even though it started here, it has made its way around the world. :D
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Do all Palumboism sufferers have the "plucked-brow" & "eyeliner" symptoms?
Also, is there a known cure, or drug that can help the victims of this horrible illness lead normal lives/ease the pain (at least the pain of those looking at them)?
(http://www.davepalumbo.com/2008%20Photos/2008Arnold/images/IMG_2372.jpg)
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Bump ;D
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Man, this thread brings back memories....Getbig at its finest.... ;D Those were the days...this place was funny on a daily basis. There was always something interesting going on, et cetera.....
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Gentlemen, I have found the cure for palumboism--
photoshop ;D
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1htoie.jpg)
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ok this one was difficult.. not sure photoshop helped :-\
(http://i42.tinypic.com/oiglqx.jpg)
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late nights and boredom =
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late nights and boredom =
wow!!!! interesting work bro.
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*bump* for Palumboism!
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Haha, thanks NB ::)
Its somehow gratifying to make something aesthetic out of something so hideous.
If anyone wants to give me something to do, I'd take a challenge of doing more photos..
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Haha, thanks NB ::)
Its somehow gratifying to make something aesthetic out of something so hideous.
If anyone wants to give me something to do, I'd take a challenge of doing more photos..
actually I wasnt trying to be sarcastic---I was serious-------its crazy to see how good these mess looks after you photoshopped him
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26737.0;attach=306525;image)
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ahhhhhh I'm an idiot. Not sure how I read that so wrong the first time. let's retry that-
Haha, thanks NB ;D
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greg kovacs received the cure for palumboism tonight after a long and storied battle with the disease.. it even helped his giant ogre chin and brow return to normal size! ;D
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greg kovacs received the cure for palumboism tonight after a long and storied battle with the disease.. it even helped his giant ogre chin and brow return to normal size! ;D
Photoshop is the cure for Palumboism? Who knew? ::)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26737.0;attach=306991;image)
holy shit---this really shows how grossly huge and wide his waist got :o
these photoshops are awesome!!
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WOW JUST FUCKING WOW!!!!!!!!!
I wonder what he sees in the mirror------he probably sees a mixture of Ronnie Coleman and Arnold looking back at him :-\
what a circus BBing is ??? :o :o
Seriously, this is probably the worst physique I've ever seen on a stage.
Who is this guy?
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late nights and boredom =
Quad the fuck... the lefty one look more real...
Luinitari, speak on this.
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greg kovacs received the cure for palumboism tonight after a long and storied battle with the disease.. it even helped his giant ogre chin and brow return to normal size! ;D
It still looks like the "six pack" of a 90 year old..
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*bump* for Dave! :D
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(http://i31.tinypic.com/1rt9og.jpg)
that is just flat out amazing................h is internal organs must be pushing against the lining of the endoderm...............l ike pork sausage against the thin membrane that is used to form it.
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Has the Professor of Palumboism, His Highness Palumbo Himself, ever commented on this condition? Surely he must have some views on palumboism. He invented it!
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Has the Professor of Palumboism, His Highness Palumbo Himself, ever commented on this condition? Surely he must have some views on palumboism. He invented it!
Do a google search on Palumboism:
http://www.google.com/search?q=palumboism&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=1&startPage=1&rlz=1I7GPEA_enUS291 (http://www.google.com/search?q=palumboism&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=1&startPage=1&rlz=1I7GPEA_enUS291)
It's all over the 'net, on dozens of different sites. It's a recognized medical condition at this point. Behold the power that Getbig once had!
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Google image results for Palumboism:
http://images.google.com/images?q=palumboism&rls=com.microsoft:*&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7GPEA_enUS291&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=z7qAStqREofKsQP8uID3CA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4 (http://images.google.com/images?q=palumboism&rls=com.microsoft:*&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7GPEA_enUS291&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=z7qAStqREofKsQP8uID3CA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4)
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that is just flat out amazing................h is internal organs must be pushing against the lining of the endoderm...............l ike pork sausage against the thin membrane that is used to form it.
Yes, but he has better bicep split than Ronnie Coleman!!! 8)
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Do a google search on Palumboism:
http://www.google.com/search?q=palumboism&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=1&startPage=1&rlz=1I7GPEA_enUS291 (http://www.google.com/search?q=palumboism&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=1&startPage=1&rlz=1I7GPEA_enUS291)
It's all over the 'net, on dozens of different sites. It's a recognized medical condition at this point. Behold the power that Getbig once had!
LOL
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Yes, but he has better bicep split than Ronnie Coleman!!! 8)
yep, great arms and calves.............like anything else.........i suppose you got to weight the pros and cons. ;D ;D
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(http://i27.tinypic.com/bj92dg.jpg)
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That must be stage 4 of palumboism!!!
This thread should never die!
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best thread on GB ;D
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I wrote this on another thread, regarding a fellow who is dangerously reaching into the early stages of Palumboism.
I am just guessing, but I believe that Palumboism in its first stages is about receptors quitting and the receptors that quit firsts are those located out in the limbs, hence the athropy, while the torso keeps on growing.
The growth hormone and insulin may have something to do with this. I don't have a fcuking clue really. What I do believe, is that the year-long cycles of certain pros and certain non-pro's, will result in shut down.
YIP
Zack
Zack,
Growth hormone causes smooth muscle hypertrophy in organs by at least 4 mechanisms. Posting them again is a waste of bandwidth. It also causes insulin resistance and flat/small bone growth. This is why people get big jaws, craniums, stubby fingers and big feet.
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TTT!!!
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George Farah, entering Stage I Palumboism?
(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/large/51922.jpg)
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(http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/troll-face-high-resolution.png)
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what causes the shrinking limbs is increased pressure on the spinal column which impinges nerves and blood flow to the limps and cuts of a little blood flow to them.
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Lets keep this thing going with another poor unsuspecting Palumboism victim. ;D
Are there any missing? Im sure there are more out there
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I have read something about Gh causing carpal tunnel syndrome because of the abnormal growth of the wrist bones. Therefore GH addicts would have a very hard time training biceps and tri's.
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Lets keep this thing going with another poor unsuspecting Palumboism victim. ;D
Are there any missing? Im sure there are more out there
I dont know if thats pauloblism or the fact hes 60yos old lol
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^^^ Arms too big and proportional for a diagnosis of Palumboism to be made..
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I dont know if thats pauloblism or the fact hes 60yos old lol
True. I suppose palumboism has sympathy for the elderly and just attacks the young when they are in their prime.
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Bump for preserving the genius.
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All the guys from the '70s and '80s shake their heads at this non-sense. The glory days sure have passed. Maybe McMillan can lead the charge to bring them back
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LOL. Best thread ever. ;D
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People with AIDS look like this too
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what causes the shrinking limbs is increased pressure on the spinal column which impinges nerves and blood flow to the limps and cuts of a little blood flow to them.
This. Spinal stenosis(narrowing of the spinal canal) from years of lifting weights. The guys with Palumboism probably were born with spinal stenosis and it gets greatly exasperated by years of heavy lifting. Do some research, it matches Palumboism pretty closely.
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I wonder if Diabetes helps add to symptoms of Palumboism. They're ALL diabetics who most are in denial over the disease.
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hello general, i'm a resident jackass from your excellent hardcore section here at getbig. if it applies to you, you should visit it more often. there are many smart people eager to help and more insight and research are always valuable. ;D
forum-pimping aside, i need your help. i want to see if i can come up with an idea of what causes palumboism beyond "massive drug use". :P to do so, i need to develop an exact symptomology, because i think it's something categorically different from what ronnie, jay, etc. develop. i have a few hypotheses as to causes, but these are some symptoms i think i see:
a) lipodystrophy, or abnormal fat distribution. apparently there's reduced limbic fat but greater trunk and visceral fat. this means arms and legs would still be very cut but your torso and abdomen in particular would always appear watery and bloated. is this a good observation?
b) muscle atrophy and wasting. is it particular muscle groups that seem to get hit worse? note that synthol use may mask some of the wasting in muscle groups where it can be used...
c) bloated head. this isn't so different from what ronnie et al have and is probably linked just to gh and not anything else.
d) other symptoms? anything particularly strange and interesting that all of them have in common?
big help everyone. thank you.
a) pure broscience, brown adipose tissue and white adipose tissue is all there is.
b) seriously? segmentad muscle atrophy?
c) gh will grow and "bloat" not only your muscles, but your skeletal ssytem as a whole
d) the cockatail of drugs they consume is enough to ensure some "odd" changes
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I wonder if Diabetes helps add to symptoms of Palumboism. They're ALL diabetics who most are in denial over the disease.
I understand that most if not all pro bodybuilders take insulin, but how does it turn them into diabetics?
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This. Spinal stenosis(narrowing of the spinal canal) from years of lifting weights. The guys with Palumboism probably were born with spinal stenosis and it gets greatly exasperated by years of heavy lifting. Do some research, it matches Palumboism pretty closely.
Did you mean "exacerbated"?
And well, Palumboism doesnt really seem to be related to stenosis, bone structure and bone deficiencies? More like enlargement of certain soft muscle tissue
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Did you mean "exacerbated"?
And well, Palumboism doesnt really seem to be related to stenosis, bone structure and bone deficiencies? More like enlargement of certain soft muscle tissue
I was speaking more for the atrophied limbs being related to stenosis. The enlargement of certain tissues, the abdomen, falls more in line with slin and GH abuse.
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i think is the XS use of insulin,. GH and IGF 1 whcih causes the lipodystrophy/central abdominal bloating/limb atrophy
the combosomehow causes Xs endogenous production of cortisol from the adrenals giving a combination of a somewhat Cushingoid/HIV +ve Phenotype
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I really wish the original palumbism thread was never deleted in that snafu months ago. What a shame. Whoever authored it should replicate it as closely as possible to the original.
I have very good news
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Is that shoe polish on the patients(Palumbo's)head?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=500543.0;attach=538960;image)
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Bio3training theories on what causes Palumboism sound pretty reasonable.
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bump
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This thread = Getbig
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All these years later and we still see new victims of Palumboism.
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The original!
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For Historical and Educational Purposes:
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For Historical and Educational Purposes:
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Geez, where did he place???
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Love that gut on big Lenny. He's taking the sport to a new level with that package.
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Legendary thread
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Geez, where did he place???
Stage 5 Palumboism plateau sigma, a theorized level that as of yet had not been observed. Incredible discovery TA.
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For Historical and Educational Purposes:
For Halloween is more like it. :'(
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Lol...WTF...hahaha
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"Palomboism" and Big Lenny made it into this guy's vid ;D
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Who's the worst on the scene now?
Heath looks like the gut is getting a little out of control
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Now that Dave Palumbo is a doctor, he can explain his own syndrome.
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I give Palumbo credit for being afflicted with his own syndrome, unlike Dr. Down.
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I give Palumbo credit for being afflicted with his own syndrome, unlike Dr. Down.
This made me LOL ;D
I am a bad person