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Title: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 02, 2013, 12:40:18 PM
Will be interesting to see what he brings to the table.

Cruz 2016
The freshman senator is considering a run for president.
By Robert Costa

Robert Costa  Freshman senator Ted Cruz is considering a presidential run, according to his friends and confidants.

Cruz won’t talk about it publicly, and even privately he’s cagey about revealing too much of his thought process or intentions. But his interest is undeniable.

“If you don’t think this is real, then you’re not paying attention,” says a Republican insider. “Cruz already has grassroots on his side, and in this climate, that’s all he may need.”

“There’s not a lot of hesitation there,” adds a Cruz donor who has known the Texan for decades. “He’s fearless.”

For the moment, Cruz’s inner circle is small: mostly aides from his Senate campaign; his father, Rafael; and his wife, Heidi. They didn’t plan on having these presidential conversations so early in his first term. Yet Cruz’s rapid ascent and a flurry of entreaties from conservative leaders have stoked their interest — and Cruz’s.

“Ted won’t be opening an Iowa office anytime soon, but he’s listening,” says a longtime Cruz associate. “This is all in the early stages; nothing is official. It’s just building on its own.”

Behind the scenes, there is a palpable fear on the right that the GOP will nominate a moderate Republican in 2016. There’s also growing unease with the field of likely contenders.

Enter Cruz. His supporters argue that he’d be a Barry Goldwater type — a nominee who would rattle the Republican establishment and reconnect the party with its base — but with better electoral results.

Republican power brokers from the early-primary states have noticed. They tell me that the Cruz factor is a frequent topic of discussion among state-based strategists.

“You bet, he’s on my radar,” says Chad Connelly, the chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party. “Conservatives think he’s a rock star. I hear about him from everybody.”

Cruz’s allies whisper that the 42-year-old attorney, who holds degrees from Harvard Law and Princeton, doesn’t take the groundswell of enthusiasm lightly. Besides talking with conservative grandees, he has called his peers in the legal community and raised the prospect.

“We all see a path, and he does, too,” says a former Cruz colleague. “This isn’t someone who needs to be told the obvious. He didn’t run for the Senate to get cozy, so no one who knows him is surprised that he’s at least looking at it.”

Cruz isn’t worried that his birth certificate will be a problem. Though he was born in Canada, he and his advisers are confident that they could win any legal battle over his eligibility. Cruz’s mother was a U.S. citizen when he was born, and he considers himself to be a natural-born citizen.

As Cruz considers a run, his staff keeps adding new speaking appearances to his calendar. This week, he’ll headline the South Carolina GOP’s Silver Elephant dinner; in late May, he’ll speak to Wall Street heavies at the New York GOP’s annual dinner.

Earlier this year, Cruz gave the keynote speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where he was greeted with a raucous reception and praised by Sarah Palin. She touted Cruz as a conservative who “chews barbed wire and spits out rust.”

The debates over gun control, immigration, and President Obama’s appointees have fueled his rise. He has been out front on each issue, brashly battling Democrats and, if need be, his fellow Republicans. “He’s the purest of the young conservative senators — that’s how we see him,” says a consultant who works for a leading conservative group.

That ideological purity and Cruz’s presidential maneuvers make aides close to other Republican contenders nervous. The backroom Republican consensus is that a Cruz insurgency would hardly be a quixotic publicity stunt. He’d outflank almost all of the other candidates on the right, and his debating skills, which once won him national awards, would be formidable. It doesn’t hurt that much of the media already hates him with a passion.

He’s also tighter with Republican donors than most people realize. Peter Thiel, the founder of PayPal, is a close friend — one of many donors with Cruz ties. Four years ago, Thiel poured more than $250,000 into Cruz’s aborted race for Texas attorney general, and he has recently donated millions to groups supporting Cruz, such as the Club for Growth. Sources close to other top Republican donors tell me that the senator is as good at wooing financiers as he is at wooing the Tea Party.

Cruz is obviously only one of several Senate conservatives gunning for the nomination. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, among others, have been busy traveling to the early states and slowly building up their political staffs. So have GOP governors such as Wisconsin’s Scott Walker and Louisiana’s Bobby Jindal.

For now, Cruz is running behind in terms of organization. But sources say that doesn’t deter him in the slightest. “If he thinks this country needs bold leadership, he’s not going to shy away,” the former colleague says. “He is one of the most confident people I know, and he’d run to win.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/347052/cruz-2016
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 02, 2013, 01:39:47 PM
Hmmm... Seems like he might just be a decent fellow?

Opposes TSA and National Defense Authorization Act. (Sep 2012)


No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas. (Oct 2012)
Give police more power to ask about immigration status. (Jun 2012)
Boots on the ground, plus a wall. (Apr 2012)
Triple the size of the Border Patrol. (Mar 2012)
Strengthen border security and increase enforcement. (Jul 2011)

Transition younger workers into personal savings system. (Jun 2012)

Adopt a single-rate tax system. (Jul 2010)
Repeal tax hikes in capital gains and death taxes. (Jul 2010)
Supports the Taxpayer Protection Pledge. (Aug 2012)
Opposes increasing tax rates. (Oct 2012)
Supports eliminating the inheritance tax. (Oct 2012)

Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan went on too long. (Jun 2012)

Government checks create dependency. (Aug 2012)

Education decisions best made at local level. (Jun 2012)

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on May 02, 2013, 02:37:34 PM
He calls shotgun seat in the GOP Clown Car.
Rick 'wash that Santorum off your hands' gets the driver's seat this go 'round.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 02, 2013, 03:12:43 PM
what is his position on immigration?

I'm guessing,being from TX, he is all about locking down the borders and against the bullshit that is amnesty?   About time a repub has the courage to take that position!



No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas. (Oct 2012)

Heck yes, as I suspected, he is :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: OzmO on May 02, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz)

Birthers unite!    :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 02, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz)

Birthers unite!    :D

Cruz is a classic right wing nutbag

Let's hope to heck he runs

It will be fun to watch the dumbfounded teabaggers wondering why they lost again
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Fury on May 02, 2013, 08:13:39 PM
Cruz is a classic right wing nutbag

Let's hope to heck he runs

It will be fun to watch the dumbfounded teabaggers wondering why they lost again

Princeton and Harvard educated. Meanwhile you spend 20 hours a day sniffing 333's ass on here.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 02, 2013, 08:57:37 PM
Cruz is a classic right wing nutbag

Let's hope to heck he runs

It will be fun to watch the dumbfounded teabaggers wondering why they lost again

tea party members tend to split their vote between 4 candidates they like, allowing a millionaire RINO to win the nomination.

Then they pretend they like him because he always picks a hapless Veep who promises to lapdog the tea party.

Then they don't show up and Obama wins again.  Fcking sad.


Cruz is great, I just hope there aren't 7 tea partiers splitting the vote so Christie or Rubio (sad sack establishment Rino hacks) don't win the nomination.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: George Whorewell on May 03, 2013, 02:33:33 AM
Cruz 2016 has been below my avatar for 6 months.

He is one of the only principled politicians left in the Washington and he is exactly the kind of person the US needs to reverse course.

Hopefully, this country will be worth governing by the time 2016 rolls around.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2013, 11:31:36 AM
Cruz 2016 has been below my avatar for 6 months.

He is one of the only principled politicians left in the Washington and he is exactly the kind of person the US needs to reverse course.

Hopefully, this country will be worth governing by the time 2016 rolls around.



The Village Idiot thinks he is crazy.  You think he's good.  I'm rolling with you.  :)  I need to look into this guy. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Skeletor on May 03, 2013, 11:42:34 AM
Cruz isn’t worried that his birth certificate will be a problem. Though he was born in Canada, he and his advisers are confident that they could win any legal battle over his eligibility. Cruz’s mother was a U.S. citizen when he was born, and he considers himself to be a natural-born citizen.


This should be interesting.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: OzmO on May 03, 2013, 12:03:13 PM
This should be interesting.

If he becomes president, Blacken007 will be the birther 33333   :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on May 03, 2013, 01:24:05 PM
The Village Idiot thinks he is crazy.  You think he's good.  I'm rolling with you.  :)  I need to look into this guy. 
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^
he also thought obama wasn't going to get a second term
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2013, 01:28:00 PM
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^
he also thought obama wasn't going to get a second term

So?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on May 03, 2013, 01:32:02 PM
So?

he was wrong,your going to take his opinion because you think he's correct.  that's so?  ;D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
he was wrong,your going to take his opinion because you think he's correct.  that's so?  ;D

Lots of people didn't think Obama would get a second term.  I certainly didn't think so.  Big deal.  But George is usually right. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2013, 01:39:46 PM
I like Rand better than Cruz
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2013, 02:46:38 PM
I like Rand better than Cruz

Careful tho... he supported the Rubio immigration program until the boston bombings.



On Monday, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., joined a band of Republican lawmakers arguing to “press pause” on immigration reform after last week’s Boston bombings.
“Until we can fully understand the systematic failures that enabled two individuals to immigrate to the United States from an area known for being hotbed of Islamic extremism, we should not proceed,” Paul said in a statement on his website. (The bombing suspects came to the United States as children and teenagers after their parents gained asylum, and they lived in the country as legal immigrants.)
Paul also sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, requesting a hearing dedicated to the national security aspect of immigration reform before any comprehensive effort moves forward. “The facts emerging in the Boston Marathon bombing have exposed a weakness in our current system,” he said. “If we don't use this debate as an opportunity to fix flaws in our current system, flaws made even more evident last week, then we will not be doing our jobs.”
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This was the latest change for Paul -- a potential presidential candidate in 2016 -- on the issue of immigration. He has moved from opponent of birthright citizenship (that is, granting citizenship to children of undocumented immigrants born in the U.S.), to supporter of comprehensive immigration reform, to one who believes the Boston bombings should slow down the legislation.
Here’s a look back at Paul in his own words on immigration:
Jan. 2011: Paul issues a press release after co-sponsoring a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants.

“Citizenship is a privilege, and only those who respect our immigration laws should be allowed to enjoy its benefits.” 
Feb. 8, 2013:  Paul pens an op-ed for the Washington Times, in which he says that he supports immigration reform. But he adds that, under his plan, Congress would vote annually for five years on whether border security has progressed – and only after that period would undocumented immigrants in the country receive green cards. He does, however, also reference them becoming citizens.
“Gradually, the undocumented persons would immigrate to the United States, internal immigration as they would not be asked to return home. These immigrants would not be given special privileges except that they would not have to leave the country…. I share the goal of a working immigration system, and a new approach to allowing those here in our country who want to work and stay out of trouble to stay here. Would I hope that when they become citizens, these new immigrants will remember Republicans who made this happen? Yes.”
March 19, 2013: Paul delivers a speech on immigration reform at the U.S Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. Based on his remarks, journalists begin to write that he supports a “pathway to citizenship.”
“Let’s start that conversation by acknowledging we aren’t going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants. If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you.”
March 19, 2013: Paul holds a conference call to clarify reporting that he supports a “pathway to citizenship,” per the Huffington Post.
“Those who are here, if they want to work, let's find a place for them. If they want to become citizens, I'm open to debate as to what we do to move forward." 
April 17, 2013: Paul speaks at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast, refraining from endorsing the Gang of Eight legislation on immigration reform.
“Generally, I am for immigration reform. It’s not that I’m going to be for anything with no rules, though.”
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2013, 03:01:45 PM
I like Rand better than Cruz

X2

I am still undecided on who is the more formidable nomination in a general election.

Rand would pick up more moderates, some liberals and the anti war crowd but Cruz is really starting to gain some steam and might have a shot getting a good portion of the Hispanic vote, like Texan George W was although I don't know where he is polling in that regard.

 Who is more diametrically opposed to Obama than Ted Cruz? They are basically opposites on nearly every issue. He also buried David Dewhurst in the senate election and I don't think anyone seen that coming, at least not to the degree he did.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 03:40:52 PM
Princeton and Harvard educated. Meanwhile you spend 20 hours a day sniffing 333's ass on here.



sniffing 333's ass is your job Fairy and I notice how you never fail to bring it up every time you post

clearly it's something you can't stop thinking about

why is that?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 03:46:09 PM
It's cracking me up that our resident right wingers think a batshit crazy teabagger from Texas has any chance on a national ticket

You guys pass up viable candidates like Christie and go for the absolute craziest morons - Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, etc..
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2013, 04:01:26 PM
It's cracking me up that our resident right wingers think a batshit crazy teabagger from Texas has any chance on a national ticket

You guys pass up viable candidates like Christie and go for the absolute craziest morons - Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, etc..

"You guys"??

I hear about Rand Paul running for President in 2016 on all different types of media. Mainstream, left leaning, right leaning.

That talk is not just relegated to a handful of people on a message board.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 04:17:23 PM
"You guys"??

I hear about Rand Paul running for President in 2016 on all different types of media. Mainstream, left leaning, right leaning.

That talk is not just relegated to a handful of people on a message board.

where did you get the idea that I was saying that only right wingers on GB were talking about Cruz or Rand

what I said was in reference to this thread specifically and all the people on this thread who are delusional enough to think a nutbag like Cruz is ever going to appeal to a national audience


Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2013, 04:28:53 PM
where did you get the idea that I was saying that only right wingers on GB were talking about Cruz or Rand

what I said was in reference to this thread specifically and all the people on this thread who are delusional enough to think a nutbag like Cruz is ever going to appeal to a national audience




Fair enough. Cruz would REALLY have to carry the Hispanic vote plus have an enviroment where the people are completely fed up with Obama by 2016 AND Hilary decides not to run but if all those line up I think he has "a shot"

And on the subject of Rand Paul, why do you think he has such a poor chance against anyone not named Hilary? He is polling really solid right now(much better than Christie). Why the characterization of him being a "nut job" or whatever? I think he has solid crossover, mainstream appeal.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 04:33:05 PM
Fair enough. Cruz would REALLY have to carry the Hispanic vote plus have an enviroment where the people are completely fed up with Obama by 2016 AND Hilary decides not to run but if all those line up I think he has "a shot"

And on the subject of Rand Paul, why do you think he has such a poor chance against anyone not named Hilary? He is polling really solid right now(much better than Christie). Why the characterization of him being a "nut job" or whatever? I think he has solid crossover, mainstream appeal.

what positions does he support or what has he said that would appeal to Hispanic voters

Rand, Cruz and any other teabagger or anyone with radical right wing views is not going to appeal to a national audience

Also keep in mind that the Republican establishment can't stand either of these guys and neither one is going to get very far without the support of the Republican machine ( think about how much support that gave Ron Paul)

People with extreme view from either party don't wind up on the national ticket
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2013, 04:41:43 PM
what positions does he support or what has he said that would appeal to Hispanic voters

Rand, Cruz and any other teabagger or anyone with radical right wing views is not going to appeal to a national audience

Also keep in mind that the Republican establishment can't stand either of these guys and neither one is going to get very far without the support of the Republican machine ( think about how much support that gave Ron Paul)

People with extreme view from either party don't wind up on the national ticket

What positions did Obama have over Hilary in the democratic primary to justify him getting around 90% of black support? Have you ever been to San Antonio, Laredo, McAllen and seen the last names of the elected officials? Hell, I remember on these various boards Wiggs said his top 2 favorite politicians were Herman Cain and Obama lol...people vote along racial lines ALL THE TIME regardless of positions.

Granted his policies will turn off some Hispanic voters but you are naive if you don't think many Hispanics would not vote his way, if only to make "history" once again.

Again, you can use terms like "extreme" to characterize Rand Paul and how that might turn off voters but AT THIS TIME he is doing extremely well in the polls and is looking to avoid walking straight into the political traps that really hurt his father.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 04:48:50 PM
What positions did Obama have over Hilary in the democratic primary to justify him getting around 90% of black support? Have you ever been to San Antonio, Laredo, McAllen and seen the last names of the elected officials? Hell, I remember on these various boards Wiggs said his top 2 favorite politicians were Herman Cain and Obama lol...people vote along racial lines ALL THE TIME regardless of positions.

Granted his policies will turn off some Hispanic voters but you are naive if you don't think many Hispanics would not vote his way, if only to make "history" once again.

Again, you can use terms like "extreme" to characterize Rand Paul and how that might turn off voters but AT THIS TIME he is doing extremely well in the polls and is looking to avoid walking straight into the political traps that really hurt his father.

try to remember how much support Hermain Cain got from black voters

If you think Hispanics will just line up to vote for Cruz because he is "one of them" then good luck with that

If you don't think Rand Paul or Cruz are extreme that's fine by me

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2013, 06:10:09 PM
try to remember how much support Hermain Cain got from black voters

If you think Hispanics will just line up to vote for Cruz because he is "one of them" then good luck with that

If you don't think Rand Paul or Cruz are extreme that's fine by me



1. Herman Cain would have gotten some level of support among blacks had he won the primary, no question about that. No way Obama beats Cain 95% to 5% or whatever the ratio was.

2. Yes, SOME Hispanics will just line up and vote on Cruz because of his last name(versus a non Hispanic)

3. How can I characterize Paul as "extreme" when he has been applauded by rightys and lefties on certain issues?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 06:19:29 PM
1. Herman Cain would have gotten some level of support among blacks had he won the primary, no question about that. No way Obama beats Cain 95% to 5% or whatever the ratio was.

2. Yes, SOME Hispanics will just line up and vote on Cruz because of his last name(versus a non Hispanic)

3. How can I characterize Paul as "extreme" when he has been applauded by rightys and lefties on certain issues?

1. no question about something you can't prove ....ok, if you say so
2. I'm sure some will but it won't make a difference because he is not going to say anything that will appeal to the majority of them and it's really a moot point because he'll never even be on the ticket
3.  Like I said before, fine be me

Neither Rand or Cruz will ever be on a National ticket

BTW - Ryan won't be on there either (just thought I would add him in - not saying you think he will be on there)   

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: George Whorewell on May 03, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
"Extremism" is defined by your average, mindless liberal automotant as having a system of beliefs which oppose ideas, people and things that are destructive to the United States.   I guess that makes Cruz as extreme as they come.

Cruz's latest bitchslap of the left includes challenging Joe Biden to a debate on guns--

http://washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-challenges-joe-biden-to-debate-about-gun-control/article/2528799  (http://washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-challenges-joe-biden-to-debate-about-gun-control/article/2528799)

Politics
Ted Cruz challenges Joe Biden to debate about gun control
May 3, 2013 | 3:06 pm | Modified: May 3, 2013 at 3:25 pm
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Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, noting that Vice President Joe Biden reportedly plans to revive a legislative push for gun control,  challenged him to a debate about policy responses to gun violence.

“I would like to invite the vice president to engage in an hour-long conversation and debate, ‘How do we stop crime’,” Cruz said at the National Rifle Association Leadership Forum today. “If Vice President Biden really believes that the facts are on his side ... then I would think he would welcome the opportunity to talk about the sources, the causes of violent crime, who is carrying it out, and how we can do everything humanly possible to stop it.”

Cruz indicated that he doesn’t regard Biden as a formidable opponent, noting that Biden’s home defense advice — firing a shotgun twice into the air — “is very useful, if it so happens that you’re being attacked by a flock of geese.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 03, 2013, 07:58:12 PM
I need to stay silent on this

F Obama
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 03, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
"Extremism" is defined by your average, mindless liberal automotant as having a system of beliefs which oppose ideas, people and things that are destructive to the United States.   I guess that makes Cruz as extreme as they come.

Cruz's latest bitchslap of the left includes challenging Joe Biden to a debate on guns--

http://washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-challenges-joe-biden-to-debate-about-gun-control/article/2528799  (http://washingtonexaminer.com/ted-cruz-challenges-joe-biden-to-debate-about-gun-control/article/2528799)

Politics
Ted Cruz challenges Joe Biden to debate about gun control
May 3, 2013 | 3:06 pm | Modified: May 3, 2013 at 3:25 pm
272Comments   190 Share on print Share on email

  

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, noting that Vice President Joe Biden reportedly plans to revive a legislative push for gun control,  challenged him to a debate about policy responses to gun violence.

“I would like to invite the vice president to engage in an hour-long conversation and debate, ‘How do we stop crime’,” Cruz said at the National Rifle Association Leadership Forum today. “If Vice President Biden really believes that the facts are on his side ... then I would think he would welcome the opportunity to talk about the sources, the causes of violent crime, who is carrying it out, and how we can do everything humanly possible to stop it.”

Cruz indicated that he doesn’t regard Biden as a formidable opponent, noting that Biden’s home defense advice — firing a shotgun twice into the air — “is very useful, if it so happens that you’re being attacked by a flock of geese.



what exactly is the bitchslap ?

a story about a senator who wants to debate the VP ?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on May 04, 2013, 05:43:33 AM
just another tea party nut job  :D :D  but don't say nothing,let them think he has a chance brraaahahahahahahah
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2013, 05:45:57 AM
just another tea party nut job  :D :D  but don't say nothing,let them think he has a chance brraaahahahahahahah

Yeah - and the liberal communists will go from one slave master to another another in Hitlery like nothing.

FORWARD!!!!!

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2013, 06:45:54 AM
YOU might be a Liberal:

If you think that excessive taxes should be paid by everyone, except you, you might be a liberal.



If you think that government knows how to spend your money better than you, you might be a liberal.



 If you think that the ACLU is good for this country and that the Tea Party is bad, you might be a liberal.



 If you think that class warfare for political purposes, is good for this country, you might be a liberal.

 If you disagree with the notion that as government gets bigger the people become smaller, you might be a liberal.

 If you don’t mind that the US is becoming a mediocre and socialistic country, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that being nice to our country’s enemies will make them love us, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that opinionated and mouthy Hollywood types are smart and love this country, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that it’s good for government to take from the productive and give to the lazy, you might be a liberal.

 If you agree that a lifetime of bad choices makes one eligible for government money, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that that a more successful person than you owes you something, you might be a liberal.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 04, 2013, 07:40:46 AM
YOU might be a Liberal:

If you think that excessive taxes should be paid by everyone, except you, you might be a liberal.



If you think that government knows how to spend your money better than you, you might be a liberal.



 If you think that the ACLU is good for this country and that the Tea Party is bad, you might be a liberal.



 If you think that class warfare for political purposes, is good for this country, you might be a liberal.

 If you disagree with the notion that as government gets bigger the people become smaller, you might be a liberal.

 If you don’t mind that the US is becoming a mediocre and socialistic country, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that being nice to our country’s enemies will make them love us, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that opinionated and mouthy Hollywood types are smart and love this country, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that it’s good for government to take from the productive and give to the lazy, you might be a liberal.

 If you agree that a lifetime of bad choices makes one eligible for government money, you might be a liberal.

 If you think that that a more successful person than you owes you something, you might be a liberal.


hey dipshit - if you're going to copy and paste at least give credit to the moron who wrote the lie

take the first statement on this list of bullshit and tell me where any liberal has said anyone should pay "excessive taxes" and that everyone should pay them except liberals

btw - nice job staying on topic
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: George Whorewell on May 05, 2013, 12:45:15 PM
hey dipshit - if you're going to copy and paste at least give credit to the moron who wrote the lie

take the first statement on this list of bullshit and tell me where any liberal has said anyone should pay "excessive taxes" and that everyone should pay them except liberals

btw - nice job staying on topic

Charles Rangle- Tax Cheat

Tim Geitner- Tax Cheat

Tom Dachle- Tax Cheat

Oh heck, why not address the 36 Obama Staffers who haven't paid their "fair share in taxes"?

http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/012612-599002-obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/012612-599002-obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2013, 12:30:09 PM
just another tea party nut job  :D :D  but don't say nothing,let them think he has a chance brraaahahahahahahah

What makes him a "nut job"?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2013, 12:39:01 PM
What makes him a "nut job"?

Anyone who is not a communist traitor and hates the USC is a nut to these people 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 06, 2013, 02:01:14 PM
Charles Rangle- Tax Cheat

Tim Geitner- Tax Cheat

Tom Dachle- Tax Cheat

Oh heck, why not address the 36 Obama Staffers who haven't paid their "fair share in taxes"?

http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/012612-599002-obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm (http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/012612-599002-obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm)

plenty of right wing tax cheaters too

Still waiting to see a quote from anyone (even those dipshits you listed above) advocating for "excessive taxes" and also saying they should be paid by everyone except them

Remember the loser that 333 plagiarized implied that this was some common trait among liberal so it should be pretty easy to find someone publicly advocating this.... unless of course it's complete busllshit
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2013, 02:07:42 PM
 ::)

Richardson on Cruz: 'I Don’t Think He Should Be Defined as a Hispanic' 

ABC: Former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson joined ABC News for a web interview after his appearance on the “This Week” roundtable on Sunday, answering viewer questions about his time as governor, his experience meeting with the Taliban, and his thoughts on Korean ruler Kim Jong-Un. When asked about Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Richardson expressed his distaste for the senator.

“I’m not a fan. I know [Ted Cruz is] sort of the Republican latest flavor. He’s articulate. He seems to be charismatic, but I don’t like his politics. I think he introduces a measure of incivility in the political process. Insulting people is not the way to go. But I guess he’s a force in the Republican political system, but I’m not a fan.”

ABC News: Do you think he represents most Hispanics with his politics?

“No, no. He’s anti-immigration. Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform. No, I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic. He’s a politician from Texas. A conservative state. And I respect Texas’ choice. But what I don’t like is… when you try to get things done, it’s okay to be strong and state your views, your ideology. But I’ve seen him demean the office, be rude to other senators, not be part of, I think, the civility that is really needed in Washington.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/05/05/Gov-Bill-Richardson-on-Ted-Cruz-He-should-Not-be-defined-as-a-Hispanic-He-demeans-the-office
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 06, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
::)

Richardson on Cruz: 'I Don’t Think He Should Be Defined as a Hispanic' 

ABC: Former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson joined ABC News for a web interview after his appearance on the “This Week” roundtable on Sunday, answering viewer questions about his time as governor, his experience meeting with the Taliban, and his thoughts on Korean ruler Kim Jong-Un. When asked about Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Richardson expressed his distaste for the senator.

“I’m not a fan. I know [Ted Cruz is] sort of the Republican latest flavor. He’s articulate. He seems to be charismatic, but I don’t like his politics. I think he introduces a measure of incivility in the political process. Insulting people is not the way to go. But I guess he’s a force in the Republican political system, but I’m not a fan.”

ABC News: Do you think he represents most Hispanics with his politics?

“No, no. He’s anti-immigration. Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform. No, I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic. He’s a politician from Texas. A conservative state. And I respect Texas’ choice. But what I don’t like is… when you try to get things done, it’s okay to be strong and state your views, your ideology. But I’ve seen him demean the office, be rude to other senators, not be part of, I think, the civility that is really needed in Washington.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/05/05/Gov-Bill-Richardson-on-Ted-Cruz-He-should-Not-be-defined-as-a-Hispanic-He-demeans-the-office

Wasn't Ted Cruz born in Canada and isn't his father Cuban and his mother Irish and Italian ?

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2013, 07:37:15 PM
Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform.


Any polls to back this?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 07, 2013, 11:34:45 AM
Cruz Ignores Richardson 'Mudslinging'
Tuesday, 07 May 2013 By Lisa Barron

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz says he has no interest in getting into a "mudslinging battle" with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson after the Democrat said the Texan doesn't represent the Hispanic community because of his opposition to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

Cruz responded by saying he doesn't think Americans care much for “name-calling,” according to Politico.

“In my experience, if people are insulting you, if they’re attacking your ethnicity, that tends to indicate that they don’t actually want to engage in the substantive merits of the argument,” said Cruz, whose father came to American from Cuba 55 years ago. "I certainly have no interest in getting into any sort of mudslinging battle on that front.”

Cruz told Fox News on Monday, “What we need to be focusing on is the substance of the argument. In particular, we need to be focusing on economic growth that enables more and more people to climb the economic ladder and reach the American dream.”

“I think what the Hispanic community wants, and what all Americans want, is an economy and an environment where small businesses can prosper, and where anybody can start with nothing and achieve anything,” he continued.

Richardson made his remarks during the web portion of ABC’s “This Week” program on Sunday after being asked whether he thought Cruz represented the views of most Hispanics.

“No, he’s anti-immigration,” Richardson responded. “Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform. I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic. He’s a politician from Texas, a conservative state.”

Richardson later said he was “misinterpreted and meant Cruz should simply not be defined “just” as a Hispanic.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cruz-richardson-hispanics-immigration/2013/05/07/id/503223
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2013, 11:36:37 AM
I like that Cruz calls the demos commies.   They get all upset cause they know at heart he is right. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 07, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Richardson is a lowlife based on first hand knowledge..and he's no more hispanic than cruz is but he sure tried to use that himself when he ran in 08.

Also the comments he made about all hispanics wanting the path to citizenship thing is just not true. Most hispanics are actually against amnesty..they get more pissed than most people over the immigration thing.  Most of them see it as freeloading, cheating, and hate it cause they all get lumped in to this and it makes all the ones who are born and raised americans look bad.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on May 07, 2013, 03:34:03 PM
Cruz Ignores Richardson 'Mudslinging'
Tuesday, 07 May 2013 By Lisa Barron

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz says he has no interest in getting into a "mudslinging battle" with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson after the Democrat said the Texan doesn't represent the Hispanic community because of his opposition to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

Cruz responded by saying he doesn't think Americans care much for “name-calling,” according to Politico.

“In my experience, if people are insulting you, if they’re attacking your ethnicity, that tends to indicate that they don’t actually want to engage in the substantive merits of the argument,” said Cruz, whose father came to American from Cuba 55 years ago. "I certainly have no interest in getting into any sort of mudslinging battle on that front.”

Cruz told Fox News on Monday, “What we need to be focusing on is the substance of the argument. In particular, we need to be focusing on economic growth that enables more and more people to climb the economic ladder and reach the American dream.”

“I think what the Hispanic community wants, and what all Americans want, is an economy and an environment where small businesses can prosper, and where anybody can start with nothing and achieve anything,” he continued.

Richardson made his remarks during the web portion of ABC’s “This Week” program on Sunday after being asked whether he thought Cruz represented the views of most Hispanics.

“No, he’s anti-immigration,” Richardson responded. “Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform. I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic. He’s a politician from Texas, a conservative state.”

Richardson later said he was “misinterpreted and meant Cruz should simply not be defined “just” as a Hispanic.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cruz-richardson-hispanics-immigration/2013/05/07/id/503223

+1 Cruz
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on May 07, 2013, 03:47:29 PM
Richardson is a lowlife based on first hand knowledge..and he's no more hispanic than cruz is but he sure tried to use that himself when he ran in 08.

Also the comments he made about all hispanics wanting the path to citizenship thing is just not true. Most hispanics are actually against amnesty..they get more pissed than most people over the immigration thing.  Most of them see it as freeloading, cheating, and hate it cause they all get lumped in to this and it makes all the ones who are born and raised americans look bad.

X2

Using that "you're not truly Black/Hispanic" card unless you vote Democrat is SO played out. There is a politician in the Dallas area named Domingo Garcia who says the same bullshit word for word. I would feel insulted if I was a constituent and he said something like that.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 08, 2013, 08:37:35 AM
Most of the hispanics I know, and that's a shitload of people, are actually staunch republicans..
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 08, 2013, 09:02:48 AM
Most of the hispanics I know, and that's a shitload of people, are actually staunch republicans..

somehow you must have managed to only know hispanics in the 27% that voted for Romney and none of the 71% that voted for Obama
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on May 08, 2013, 09:09:29 AM
somehow you must have managed to only know hispanics in the 27% that voted for Romney and none of the 71% that voted for Obama
thank you.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on May 08, 2013, 10:27:19 AM
somehow you must have managed to only know hispanics in the 27% that voted for Romney and none of the 71% that voted for Obama

I don't really give much credibility to the all these 'polls' everyone likes to throw around.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 08, 2013, 11:48:02 AM
Bozell Column: Ted Cruz Has All the Right Enemies
By Brent Bozell | May 07, 2013

The Washington Post offered a splashy profile of freshman Sen. Ted Cruz on Tuesday, and the most surprising thing about it was a lack of venom. The reporter described “the self-assured, nonstop talker who won national debate championships as an undergraduate at Princeton.”

Cruz “honed his reputation early in his career as a dazzling Supreme Court advocate” and now “has bashed into the national conversation,” most notably in attacking establishment Republicans who’ve called him and other young Senate conservatives “wacko birds.”

This story, however, wasn’t as surprising as James Carville’s declaration on ABC’s “This Week.” He was typically blunt – but in a wholly unexpected direction: “I think he is the most talented and fearless Republican politician I’ve seen in the last 30 years.”

Carville accurately described the conservative view: “‘If we only got someone who was articulate and was for what we were for, we would win elections. And we get these John McCains and these Mitt Romneys and these squishy guys that can’t do anything.’” Carville added: “Well, there’s one thing this guy is not -- he ain’t squishy, not in the least.”

The more typical take from the Left came from the same program, when former Gov. Bill Richardson insisted that Hispanic and conservative cannot go together in the same sentence: “He’s anti-immigration. Almost every Hispanic in the country wants to see immigration reform.
I don’t think he should be defined as a Hispanic. He’s a politician from Texas. A conservative state.” In the Richardson calculus, “pro-immigration” Marco Rubio is a Hispanic, while “anti-immigration” Ted Cruz is a politician from Texas.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is so tired of Cruz and his objections already that he has denounced him to his face as a “schoolyard bully.” (To which Cruz shot back: “I wasn’t aware we were in a schoolyard.”)

Few people try to paint Ted Cruz as a lightweight – except the lightweights. Haters at the Daily Kos blog have risibly jeered he couldn’t be considered as qualified to be “pool boy.” Chris Matthews bashed Cruz as “another one of these well-educated right wingers like Pat Robertson. It’s like they flush out their high educations when they get out of school for political purposes.”

David Letterman recently named Cruz as a “Stooge of the Night” for failing to vote Letterman’s way on gun control. But the segment was so listless and unfunny it almost made you miss that other gray-haired liberal guy with the glasses – remember that guy? – who did that “Worst Person in the World” segment.

It’s clear that Cruz’s intelligence is marking him for media harassment. Former Newsweek Washington bureau chief Evan Thomas spoke for the journalistic masses: “You need to watch this guy, because there are a lot of demagogues out there, but not that many who are that smart. He is really, really smart, and that makes him potentially dangerous.”

Liberals are far more comfortable with Republican leaders they can define as dimwits – like that Harvard MBA, George W. Bush. They champion liberal politicians with mediocre college grades like Al Gore with honorifics like “The Thinking Man’s Thinking Man.” Ted Cruz upsets their liberals-are-smarter apple cart.

The media’s Republicans In Name Only aren’t fans, either. New York Times columnist David Brooks – the pseudoconservative who fraudulently purports to represent the Right on both PBS and NPR – declared that when you mention Cruz to other senators, “you just get titanic oceans of eye-rolling, because you’re a freshman, you don’t go in and take over hearings.” Cruz is supposed to go along to get along, learn his place, “grow in office” and join the establishment. Brooks strangely added: “It doesn’t help that he has a face that looks a little like Joe McCarthy actually.”

Liberals have repeatedly linked Cruz to McCarthy after The New Yorker savaged Cruz because he said in a 2010 speech to a conservative crowd that Barack Obama “would have made a perfect president of Harvard Law School” because “there were fewer declared Republicans in the faculty when we were there than communists! There was one Republican. But there were 12 who would say they were Marxists.”

The New Yorker’s star witness against Cruz was “Republican” Harvard Law professor Charles Fried, who claimed he was one of four "out" Republicans on staff. Fried is an Obama supporter who recently donated $250 to elect liberal Senator Elizabeth Warren.

Despite the media harassment, Ted Cruz is kicking tail and taking names. The Washington Post notes that his reaction to all the criticism can be summed up as “Lovin’ it!” He is one member of Congress I’d like every other Republican to emulate. How crazy could that make the media elite?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-bozell/2013/05/07/bozell-column-ted-cruz-has-all-right-enemies
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on May 08, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
I don't really give much credibility to the all these 'polls' everyone likes to throw around.

that's actual voting results from the last presidential election

it has to have at least as much credibility as an individual claim that "Most of the hispanics I know, and that's a shitload of people, are actually staunch republicans.."
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 08, 2013, 12:10:37 PM
somehow you must have managed to only know hispanics in the 27% that voted for Romney and none of the 71% that voted for Obama

It's very possible that MORE than 27% of hispanics are repubs - they just didn't bother voting cause romney sucked.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: loco on May 08, 2013, 12:23:02 PM
Most of the hispanics I know, and that's a shitload of people, are actually staunch republicans..

In my experience, most people who have immigrated or have parents/grandparents who have immigrated to the US from communist countries like the former Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Some Central American countries(1960s-1980s), tend to vote Republican.

So Cubans or people of Cuban ancestry in the US, and Hispanics from some central American countries, tend to vote Republican.  All other Hispanics tend to vote Democrat.  
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 10, 2013, 05:54:35 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 21, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
Texas Republican Sen. Cruz eligible to be president should he decide to run
Published May 19, 2013
FoxNews.com

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz was born in Canada but is qualified to become president should he mount a campaign in 2016 or beyond.

Cruz was born in Calgary, and his father is from Cuba. But the Republican senator’s mother is from the first state of Delaware, which appears to settle the issue.

Government officials didn’t exactly have to scramble for the information amid speculation the firebrand freshman senator was contemplating a presidential run and might be ineligible, considering similar questions about President Obama’s birth prompted the Congressional Research Office to compile a 2009 report to try to resolve the issue.

The 14-page report by the non-partisan office’s legislative attorney Jack Maskell essentially states the Constitution sets out three eligibility requirements to be president: one must be at least 35, a resident within the United States for 14 years and a “natural born citizen.”

The report states "the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including … those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements."

However, Maskell points out in an expanded, Nov. 2011 memorandum “there is no Supreme Court case which has ruled specifically on the presidential eligibility requirements, although several cases have addressed the term ‘natural born’ citizen. And this clause has been the subject of several legal and historical treatises over the years, as well as more recent litigation.”

Cruz has excited the Republican Party’s conservative base during his first five months in the Senate – while annoying moderates – by opposing everything from Obama Cabinet nominations to the bipartisan Senate immigration bill.

The 42-year-old Cruz has yet to publicly announce his intentions, but in front of a microphone he talks mostly about big-picture national issues, with most of the presidential buzz coming from supporters.

“I’ve been in 25 cities in the last few months, all I have to do is mention Ted Cruz’s name, and they stand up and cheer,” former South Carolina Republican Sen. Jim DeMint said at a state party dinner earlier this month. “They’re hungry for someone who’s not afraid, willing to stand up and trying to change the status quo.”

Obama’s eligibility was questioned by a group of people labeled birthers because they though his Hawaii birth certificate was fake and that he was born in Kenya. His mother was from Kansas and his father from Kenya.

Others have faced similar questions including Obama’s 2008 presidential opponent Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain.

McCain was born on a military installation in the Panama Canal Zone where his mother and Navel officer father were stationed. And George Romney, father of 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, was born in Mexico but still ran for president in 1968.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/19/cruz-eligible-presidential-run/?test=latestnews
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on June 03, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
I like it.   :)


Ted Cruz: Replace the IRS With Flat Tax
Monday, 03 Jun 2013
By Christiana Lilly

Sen. Ted Cruz Monday called for replacement of the the Internal Revenue Service with a simple tax or flat tax.

The Texas Republican also accused the Obama administration of a "willingness to use the machinery of government to target political enemies."

"It was wrong when Richard Nixon did it and it was wrong when Barack Obama did it," Cruz said on Fox News, referring to the controversy surrounding the IRS targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

There's been no evidence to suggest President Barack Obama or anyone connected to the White House ordered the IRS scrutiny of tea party and other conservative groups, but Cruz called the controversy "a manifestation of too much power in the federal government."

"When the federal government has too much power in our individual lives, it's an invitation to being abused," he added.

The tea party favorite said the IRS mess proves there's a better way to ensure fairness in the tax process — a simple, or flat tax paid each year by filling out a postcard-size return.

"The average American can fill out our taxes on a postcard, put down how much you earn, put down a deduction for charitable contribution, for home mortgage, and how much you owe. It ought to be just a simple one-page postcard and take the agents, the bureaucracy, out of Washington and limit the part of government," he said.

"This administration has been willing to disregard the Constitution, disregard the Bill of Rights, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the Fourth and Fifth amendments . . . to set aside the constraints of the law for partisan ends, and the result of it has been people's trust in the integrity of government has been undermined."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/irs-abolish-flat-tax/2013/06/03/id/507772
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on June 03, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
I hope he runs

he will be fun to watch teabaggers cry in bewilderment as another one of their ilk makes a fool of himself and gets soundly rejected by the majority of normal people in this country
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on June 24, 2013, 05:44:36 PM
Cruz Wins White House Dossier 2016 GOP Presidential Poll
by Keith Koffler on June 24, 2013

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz scored a huge victory in a White House Dossier poll of readers’ preferences for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, garnering nearly a third of the vote, while former conservative darling Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida barely registered in the survey.

Cruz has emerged during his frist year in the Senate as an unflagging conservative leader on a string of issues, most notably gun control and immigration. Thirty one percent of voters in the poll, who mostly described them as conservative, said Cruz was their choice for president.

While Cruz’s star has soared, Rubio’s has dimmed nearly the point of invisibility. Rubio, who has drawn conservative ire for his banner role in pushing an immigration reform bill this year, garnered just three percent of the vote.

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, who achieved stardom among conservatives this year with a filibuster opposing the use of drone strikes against Americans on U.S. soil, scored second in the poll with 16 percent. And physician Ben Carson, who gained prominence in February by delivering a strongly conservative speech at the National Prayer Breakfast while President Obama was forced to look on, captured 10 percent of the vote.

Two well-regarded Wisconsin conservatives made solid if unremarkable showings. Rep, Paul Ryan, who ran for vice president in 2012, and Gov. Scott Walker tied with six percent of the vote – though Walker was ahead on votes. Moderate governors Jeb Bush of Florida and Chris Christie of New Jersey tallied four percent and three percent respectively. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal cornered just two percent, while Rick Santorum, Jon Huntsman Jr., and Donald Trump each barely registered with one percent of the vote.

Sarah Palin was initially included in the poll but was removed early in the voting after a pro-Palin website directed its readers to vote for her. Before then, she had received only scant support.

The poll, which went up on the website Friday afternoon and was closed this morning, asked readers, “If the 2016 Republican presidential primary were held in your state today, for whom would your vote?”

The survey was not strictly “scientific” – participants were not randomly contacted, but instead allowed to vote on the website at their own initiative. But it probably provides a reliable snapshot of where conservatives – who comprise a majority of those who vote in the GOP primaries – stand at this point. A total of 3,370 readers cast votes, and Cruz maintained around a third of the vote nearly from the beginning.

Of those who voted, 2,583 also answered a question about their politics, with 56 percent describing themselves as “conservative,” 32 percent identifying as “very conservative,” and 11 percent saying they are “moderate.” Only one percent chose “liberal” or “very liberal.”

But the voters can hardly be described as unwilling to consider moderates. Thirty one percent of the 3,172 who revealed their favorite for 2012 said their “preferred” candidate in primaries was Mitt Romney. Fifteen percent said they liked Herman Cain, 13 percent favored Newt Gingrich, and another 13 percent were for Rick Perry.

A complete tabulation of the poll results can be found here.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 24, 2013, 06:49:18 PM
Cruz Paul or Paul Cruz

Anything less and im staying home most likely 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 24, 2013, 07:06:46 PM
Cruz Paul or Paul Cruz

Anything less and im staying home most likely 

 8)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 24, 2013, 07:17:06 PM
Cruz Paul or Paul Cruz

Anything less and im staying home most likely 

rand has more nat'l experience - put him 1st on the ticket.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on June 24, 2013, 09:35:49 PM
Gotta respect the man thus far.

Unwavering in all his principles.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on June 25, 2013, 01:22:28 PM
Gotta respect the man thus far.

Unwavering in all his principles.

the same could be said of Fred Phelps, Adolf Hitler or any number of nutbags

it's his principals that will make him a pariah on the national stage

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on June 25, 2013, 02:09:48 PM
the same could be said of Fred Phelps, Adolf Hitler or any number of nutbags

it's his principals that will make him a pariah on the national stage



Great analogy ::)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 25, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
the same could be said of Fred Phelps, Adolf Hitler or any number of nutbags

it's his principals that will make him a pariah on the national stage



I looked at this thread just to how the libs would react. Entertaining as usual. 5150 all thw way. Did not disappoint. lol
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on June 25, 2013, 09:56:45 PM
I looked at this thread just to how the libs would react. Entertaining as usual. 5150 all thw way. Did not disappoint. lol

my only a "reaction" is stating that he has no chance on a national stage and that I hope he runs

I understand that right wing dingbats can't believe that the country would reject the message of a right wing nutbag

I understand that you dwell in a world where Obama has created a disaster and you believe the country will run toward and embrace a far right nutbag message

We'll have to wait until 2016 to see which one of us is disappointed
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on June 28, 2013, 02:34:34 PM
my only a "reaction" is stating that he has no chance on a national stage and that I hope he runs

I understand that right wing dingbats can't believe that the country would reject the message of a right wing nutbag

I understand that you dwell in a world where Obama has created a disaster and you believe the country will run toward and embrace a far right nutbag message

We'll have to wait until 2016 to see which one of us is disappointed

and don't bitch at me when I 'bump' this thread in three years.....and revisit and smile.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
and don't bitch at me when I 'bump' this thread in three years.....and revisit and smile.

Anything would be better than the ghetto crackhead poverty pimp in the WH now
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on July 01, 2013, 02:52:23 PM
Anything would be better than the ghetto crackhead poverty pimp in the WH now

of course, that means that Hillary would be better....are you prepared for 4/8 years of Ma'am President?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on August 12, 2013, 01:13:06 PM
Is Ted Cruz the 2016 GOP frontrunner? In Iowa, maybe
By BYRON YORK | AUGUST 12, 2013

Ted Cruz, who has been in the U.S. Senate all of eight months, is zooming toward the front of the... There are no polls showing Ted Cruz leading the 2016 Republican presidential field in the Iowa. A PPP survey last month found Cruz in sixth place in the state, behind Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio. But after a particularly well-received appearance at a conservative event in Ames, Iowa over the weekend, there seems little doubt that Cruz, who has been in the U.S. Senate all of eight months, is zooming toward the front of the GOP pack in the nation’s first-voting state.

The gathering, sponsored by the social conservative organization Family Leader, featured appearances by Rick Santorum, winner of the 2012 Republican caucuses, and Cruz, along with billionaire gadfly Donald Trump. From all accounts, Santorum was a popular speaker; the social conservative crowd appreciated not only his positions but the enormous effort he has made to get to know the state of Iowa and its conservative residents.

“The reception for Santorum was appreciative, consistent, and steady,” Bob Vander Plaats, head of the Family Leader and organizer of the event, told me via email. “The anticipation for and reception of Cruz was over the top. He was propelled by an amazing speech by his father, Rafael. All that said, Cruz delivered. Most walked away talking Cruz!”

“Although they both received a warm reception from the Christian conservative audience, Cruz clearly bested Santorum in terms of enthusiasm, excitement, and anticipation of a 2016 presidential run,” said Jamie Johnson, a GOP state committeeman and a strong Santorum backer in 2012.

“While [Santorum] delivered a good speech, he was upstaged by Cruz, who from everything I’ve seen has become the great conservative hope for Iowa conservatives,” said Craig Robinson, founder and editor of the influential Iowa Republican blog. “You could sense the crowd’s anticipation before Cruz spoke. The energy in the room as he spoke was unmatched by any other speaker that day.”

“Cruz has only been to Iowa twice,” Robinson concluded, “but in the limited time he’s been in the state he’s done everything right.”

None of that is to say that Cruz has left any other Republican candidates in the dust. Rand Paul, Scott Walker, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal — each will be welcomed by Iowa Republicans if he decides to run. But it does say that, at least for the moment, Cruz has almost instantly joined the group of Republicans who should be taken seriously as a presidential hopeful. Maybe that will change — maybe Cruz will make a big mistake or just wear out his welcome — but right now, he is the hot name in Iowa Republican circles.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-is-ted-cruz-the-2016-gop-frontrunner-in-iowa-maybe/article/2534147
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on August 12, 2013, 01:42:39 PM
Here is the most recent winner of the Iowa Straw Poll
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 13, 2013, 09:53:59 AM
Haha graspingat straws man really reaching deep.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on August 13, 2013, 03:31:26 PM
:D


Cruz thinks the government creates jobs ???

That commie wil never win the repub primary.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 13, 2013, 05:03:39 PM

Cruz thinks the government creates jobs ???

That commie wil never win the repub primary.

bullshit... link to where cruz said this?   Completely socialist thinking dude.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on August 13, 2013, 06:34:02 PM
bullshit... link to where cruz said this?   Completely socialist thinking dude.

The post i quoted.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on August 13, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
Haha graspingat straws man really reaching deep.

time will tell

I'm always fascinated when extremist think their guy is going to appeal to moderates on a national level

Ron Paul fans just couldn't figure out why he wasn't getting traction because all they did was talk to each other about how great RP was and didn't bother to notice the rest of the country didn't share their enthusiasm
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on August 14, 2013, 04:18:25 AM
time will tell

I'm always fascinated when extremist think their guy is going to appeal to moderates on a national level

Ron Paul fans just couldn't figure out why he wasn't getting traction because all they did was talk to each other about how great RP was and didn't bother to notice the rest of the country didn't share their enthusiasm


RP is honest and consistent in his message. Thats why his own party hates him. They dont like facts and truth.

Cruz is just another lobbyist for oil, guns etc...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 14, 2013, 07:48:26 AM
time will tell

I'm always fascinated when extremist think their guy is going to appeal to moderates on a national level

Ron Paul fans just couldn't figure out why he wasn't getting traction because all they did was talk to each other about how great RP was and didn't bother to notice the rest of the country didn't share their enthusiasm

You can't honestly compare cruz with bachmann. He is actually intelligent and she's always been a known dingbat and petty attention whore.
And ron paul did get plenty of traction. He had as much support as anyone last year...the 'powers that be' just swept him under the rug as best they could and and kept his name off the ballot. He was the only true threat to beat obama last year, if those were the two names on the ballot.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 14, 2013, 08:20:11 AM
He was the only true threat to beat obama last year, if those were the two names on the ballot.


agreed there.   Obama and Romney were fairly close on most of the issues - so voters chose the candidate with more experience.  That was obama, of course.  It could happen again in 2016... Christie has WAY less experience than Hilary and would probably lose, as their positions are pretty darn close. 

Now, someone whose positions match up with plenty of dems (on war), line up with the far right base on almost everything, and common sense speaks to swing voters... well, I don't think Ron Paul would have lost to obama with some 330 electoral votes, that's for sure.  Running RINOS doesn't work.  Repubs should get that by now and run a Cruz or Rand in 2016.  Give the voters a CLEAR choice.  Everyone is so sick of obama, bush, hilary, etc.   You give them hilry/Jeb and it's business as usual.  I tells ya, put up a strong Rand paul and he could win it.  Christie won't win... he's really romney all over again, on the issues.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 14, 2013, 11:22:28 AM

agreed there.   Obama and Romney were fairly close on most of the issues - so voters chose the candidate with more experience.  That was obama, of course.  It could happen again in 2016... Christie has WAY less experience than Hilary and would probably lose, as their positions are pretty darn close. 

Now, someone whose positions match up with plenty of dems (on war), line up with the far right base on almost everything, and common sense speaks to swing voters... well, I don't think Ron Paul would have lost to obama with some 330 electoral votes, that's for sure.  Running RINOS doesn't work.  Repubs should get that by now and run a Cruz or Rand in 2016.  Give the voters a CLEAR choice.  Everyone is so sick of obama, bush, hilary, etc.   You give them hilry/Jeb and it's business as usual.  I tells ya, put up a strong Rand paul and he could win it.  Christie won't win... he's really romney all over again, on the issues.

EXACTLY!!!!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on August 19, 2013, 12:10:31 PM
Dual citizenship may pose problem if Ted Cruz seeks presidency
Sen. Ted Cruz's birth certificate shows he was born in Canada in 1970. It was released exclusively to The Dallas Morning News.
TODD J. GILLMAN The Dallas Morning News
Washington Bureau
tgillman@dallasnews.com
Published: 18 August 2013 11:04 PM
Updated: 19 August 2013 12:21 PM

WASHINGTON — Born in Canada to an American mother, Ted Cruz became an instant U.S. citizen. But under Canadian law, he also became a citizen of that country the moment he was born.

Unless the Texas Republican senator formally renounces that citizenship, he will remain a citizen of both countries, legal experts say.

That means he could assert the right to vote in Canada or even run for Parliament. On a lunch break from the U.S. Senate, he could head to the nearby embassy — the one flying a bright red maple leaf flag — pull out his Calgary, Alberta, birth certificate and obtain a passport.

“He’s a Canadian,” said Toronto lawyer Stephen Green, past chairman of the Canadian Bar Association’s Citizenship and Immigration Section.

The circumstances of Cruz’s birth have fueled a simmering debate over his eligibility to run for president. Knowingly or not, dual citizenship is an apparent if inconvenient truth for the tea party firebrand, who shows every sign he’s angling for the White House.

“Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,” said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier. “To our knowledge, he never had Canadian citizenship.”

The U.S. Constitution allows only a “natural born” American citizen to serve as president. Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.

The Constitution says nothing about would-be presidents born with dual citizenship.

Detractors have derided Cruz as “Canadian Ted,” saying he can’t run for president because he wasn’t born on U.S. soil.

Cruz, a Harvard-trained lawyer and former clerk for the U.S. chief justice, disagrees. He reasserted last week that being an American by birth makes him eligible.

Looking ahead

Two visits in recent weeks to Iowa, the first state to winnow the field of presidential candidates, set off a fresh flurry of commentary on the issue. He heads to New Hampshire, another early voting state, on Friday — another strong sign that he’s eyeing a 2016 run.

The political impact of his citizenship status remains to be seen. Doubts about President Barack Obama’s heritage dogged him throughout 2008 and persist among hardcore “birthers.”

Officials at Citizenship and Immigration Canada said that without a signed privacy waiver from Cruz, they cannot discuss his case.

“Generally speaking, under the Citizenship Act of 1947, those born in Canada were automatically citizens at birth unless their parent was a foreign diplomat,” said ministry spokeswoman Julie Lafortune.

For the first time, Cruz released his birth certificate Friday in response to inquiries from The Dallas Morning News.

Dated a month after his birth on Dec. 22, 1970, it shows that Rafael Edward Cruz was born to Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, a “geophysical consultant” born in Matanzas, Cuba, and the former Eleanor Elizabeth Wilson, born in Wilmington, Del.

Her status made the baby a U.S. citizen at birth. For that, U.S. law required at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen who had lived for at least a decade in the United States.

She registered his birth with the U.S. consulate, Frazier said, and the future senator received a U.S. passport in 1986 ahead of a high school trip to England.

Rafael Cruz, now a pastor in suburban Dallas, fled Cuba for Texas as a teen in 1957. He remained a Cuban citizen until he became a naturalized American in 2005.

Automatic citizenship

Until 1947, people born in Canada were British subjects. The system Canada adopted after that closely mirrors that of the U.S.

Both confer citizenship automatically to anyone born on their territory, and to children of citizens even when the birth takes place overseas.

By 1970, the Cruzes had moved to the Canadian oil patch, where they launched a seismic-data business. For purpose of citizenship, being foreigners made no difference.

“If a child was born in the territory, he is Canadian, period,” said France Houle, a law professor at the University of Montreal. “He can ask for a passport. He can vote.”

The fact that Cruz left Canada when he was 4 doesn’t affect his status there, either.

“If you leave when you’re 2 minutes old, you’re still an American. It’s the same in Canada,” said Allison Christians, a law professor at McGill University in Montreal. “He’s a Canadian citizen.”

Having practiced international tax law in the U.S. for 25 years, Christians has made a close study of citizenship rules. They often come into play in tax cases.

“They can feel as American as they want. But the question of citizenship is determined by the law of the territory in which you were physically born,” she said. “It’s not up to the Cruz family to decide whether they’re citizens.”

As a Cuban, Rafael Cruz probably could have requested citizenship for his son, experts said. Even if he’d wanted to, the Cuban Constitution bans dual citizenship. And the chance to register the child passed long ago.

“The U.S. and Cuba have very similar legal patterns and requirements,” said David Abraham, a professor of immigration and citizenship law at the University of Miami.

The situation reflects the overlapping jurisdictions, said Demetrios Papademetriou, president of the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute, who called birthright citizenship common in English-speaking countries.

“If Ted Cruz was born in Canada, he is Canadian. He is American. He is a dual citizen,” he said.

That’s not uncommon in Canada, especially in French-speaking Quebec. But even there it can cause headaches for politicians.

In 2006, Canada’s Liberal Party Leader Stéphane Dion — born in Quebec City and also a citizen of France, his mother’s homeland — gave into a public uproar. He promised, reluctantly, to give up his French citizenship if he became prime minister, which never happened.

Taxes

Unlike the U.S., which requires its citizens to pay taxes no matter where they live in the world, Canada only taxes people who reside there.

So there’s rarely much reason to relinquish Canadian citizenship.

For Cruz, though, it may become a political imperative. Though it would not affect his eligibility for the presidency, he could face questions about whether it’s appropriate for a commander in chief to have dual citizenship.

The relinquishment process is easy enough. It can take from a few weeks to a year. There’s a four-page form with a $100 fee. Applicants must appear before a special judge to prove they have citizenship elsewhere and aren’t engaged in fraud.

Records are kept private.

Green, one of Canada’s top immigration lawyers, has counseled pro sports teams, athletes and major corporations. He knows one person who renounced his Canadian citizenship as a condition of joining the U.S. Secret Service.

“I’ve done it for people,” he said. “No problem.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20130818-born-in-canada-ted-cruz-became-a-citizen-of-that-country-as-well-as-u.s..ece
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: headhuntersix on August 19, 2013, 12:46:58 PM
Oh so when its a republican the media startes doing its job? Where were these assholes 6 years ago?

Oh yeah...... ::)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on August 19, 2013, 02:50:18 PM
CRUZ

two letters shy of CRAZY
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 19, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
Oh so when its a republican the media startes doing its job? Where were these assholes 6 years ago?

Hmmm I didn't know "its job" was to hold integrity or ask tough Qs or get to thenitty gritty or expose corruption.

I was under the impression that "the media" was really just a bunch of entertainment channels/print outlets - just like BET or MtV or Oprah network - whose "job" was to earn profits for its shareholders.

Maybe in some black & white film from the 30s, people became journalists to "expose conspiracies" and "tell the people the truth".  Today?  Sheesh, that's all gone.  "Journalists" are beauty contest winners that read script that comes right from party leaders.  You know its' true dude.  Megyn Kelly and Robin Meade sure ain't Murrow and Cronkite.  And really, we don't know if Murrow and Cronkite were ever the stalwart integrity guys painted on tv as well, do we?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 20, 2013, 07:30:34 AM
CRUZ

two letters shy of CRAZY

Explain how exactly he is crazy.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Fury on August 20, 2013, 09:10:49 AM
Explain how exactly he is crazy.

Still waiting for StrawAnus to explain that. He keeps dodging it, though.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on August 20, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
Cruz says he will renounce any Canadian citizenship after releasing birth certificate
Published August 20, 2013
FoxNews.com
 
Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz says he will renounce any Canadian citizenship he may have after a newspaper reported he was likely a dual citizen because he was born in Calgary, Alberta to an American mother.

In a statement late Monday, Cruz says he always assumed since he never made an attempt to claim Canadian citizenship, he was only an American citizen. However, he acknowledges it's possible he also has Canadian citizenship, as reported by The Dallas Morning News.

“Assuming that is true, then sure, I will renounce any Canadian citizenship," Cruz said. "Nothing against Canada, but I’m an American by birth and as a U.S. senator; I believe I should be only an American.”

The debate arose when the possible 2016 Republican presidential candidate, in a throwback to the debate over President Obama's citizenship, released his birth certificate to The Dallas Morning News.

Unlike the 2008 flare-up over Obama's nationality, few are challenging what the birth certificate shows -- in this case, that Cruz was born to an American mother in Calgary, Canada, in 1970.

The newspaper cited legal scholars in asserting Cruz is technically a U.S. and a Canadian citizen, since Canadian law confers citizenship to most the moment they are born on Canadian soil.

A spokeswoman with Citizenship and Immigration Canada would not discuss the particulars of Cruz' citizenship when reached by FoxNews.com.

But the law does seem clear that somebody in Cruz' circumstances would be considered a Canadian citizen.

"Generally speaking, under the Citizenship Act of 1947, those born in Canada were automatically citizens at birth unless their parent was a foreign diplomat," the spokeswoman told FoxNews.com in an email.

 If Cruz does indeed hold dual citizenship, it does not affect his eligibility to run for the White House. It could, however, prompt calls for him to renounce his Canadian citizenship all the same.

Under U.S. law, the fact Cruz was born to a U.S. citizen parent already makes him a U.S. citizen. Many scholars also have said it makes him what the U.S. Constitution describes as a "natural-born" American, and therefore eligible to run for president.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/20/cruz-disputes-claim-dual-citizenship-with-canada-releases-birth-certificate/?test=latestnews#ixzz2cXEjtubk
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 20, 2013, 11:50:32 AM
Good.  It's a cute footnote, but doesn't affect his ability to be president.  Being born in calgary doesn't exactly help him like being born in Montana would lol, but hey, he's legal and can be POTUS. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Skeletor on August 20, 2013, 11:59:30 AM
I posted this on another Cruz topic but got no real answer. Hopefully I can get one here.

Quote
Haven't followed the whole Cruz case but it appears Cruz's father was not an American (it is claimed he was later naturalized), his mother was an American and he was born outside of the USA (Canada).
Obama's father was not an American, his mother was an American and he was born in the USA (or outside of the USA if you subscribe to this line of thought).
How does one automatically fulfill the "natural born citizen" requirement and the other doesn't?
As I said I have not followed the Cruz hype or the birther bandwagon so can someone shed some light on this?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on August 20, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
Explain how exactly he is crazy.
watch and listen to him.  He has those Michele Bachmann eyes.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Fury on August 20, 2013, 06:03:45 PM
watch and listen to him.  He has those Michele Bachmann eyes.

Well that settles it. The gay doesn't like the look in his eyes.  ::)


Have anything else to explain it? Keep in mind that Cruz is Harvard and Princeton educated and has argued dozens of cases in front of the supreme court. Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz has called him one of the most brilliant students he ever taught.

But you don't like his eyes.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 21, 2013, 07:18:11 AM
watch and listen to him.  He has those Michele Bachmann eyes.

I don't see that at all. Bachmann is a petty attention whore who says stupid shit.

Cruz is highly intellligent and reasonable and makes sense.

You libs have fallen on the old ron pau default-" well we can't debate him or prove him wrong with facts so we will just..uh..uh just say that he's crazy."
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2013, 10:29:26 AM
EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the top level of politics is, well, a little bit crazy.  Every one.  Yes, Ron paul.  Yes, obama and Bush.

many have huge egos, many are power hungry, some are zealots, some really care about their cause.  Some don't. 

But yes, they're all a little crazy to take this job.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on August 21, 2013, 11:38:01 AM
He's a rookie and just made a rookie mistake.
"we're not going to blink"

but, of course, the GOP will.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2013, 11:58:52 AM
He's a rookie and just made a rookie mistake.
"we're not going to blink"

but, of course, the GOP will.


Still waiting for you and StrawAnus to explain to us how he's "crazy".  ::)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on August 21, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
Still waiting for you and StrawAnus to explain to us how he's "crazy".  ::)

What's the point Fairy

You've been given many examples in the past but you're too busy sucking Cruz's cock to pay attention

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2013, 07:51:22 PM
What's the point Fairy

You've been given many examples in the past but you're too busy sucking Cruz's cock to pay attention



You sound angry.

All I see in this thread is you crying like a little bitch.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 22, 2013, 07:52:44 AM
Graspingat Straws man seems to get owned in every thread he posts in.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on August 22, 2013, 10:05:40 AM
You sound angry.

All I see in this thread is you crying like a little bitch.

weird that you perceive anger in that statement when it's obvious futility

btw - stop begging me to respond to your posts

You're beginning to sound like 333 with your desperate need for attention
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on August 22, 2013, 01:07:03 PM
weird that you perceive anger in that statement when it's obvious futility

btw - stop begging me to respond to your posts

You're beginning to sound like 333 with your desperate need for attention
butt, is he as cute as 33 ?
can he open bottles?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2013, 11:37:01 AM
I smell fear.   :)

Ted Cruz: Democrats' new bogeyman
By Peter Hamby, CNN Digital National Political Correspondent
updated 11:27 AM EDT, Wed October 9, 2013

Richmond, Virginia (CNN) -- It's official: Ted Cruz is Democratic enemy number one.

In the span of a year, Cruz has transformed himself from a little-known Senate candidate into the face of a government shutdown that has roiled Washington politics and raised questions about the viability of the American political process.

Democrats are now raising his profile at every turn, in political campaigns from Brooklyn to San Diego, casting him as a right wing zealot and hoping to hang the controversial tea party icon around the necks of every Republican office-seeker in the country.

Cruz: Use debt ceiling debate for leverage

The first-term Texas senator, a shrewd and often shameless promoter of stand-your-ground conservatism, is currently starring in a slew of television ads, talking points and a raft of fundraising emails attacking Republicans over the ongoing government shutdown.

Far from being an object of fear, Cruz is a welcome newcomer for Democrats -- the embodiment of what they claim is dangerous tea party obstructionism, and a far more useful villain than Mitch McConnell, John Boehner or any of the buttoned-up regulars straight out of Capitol Hill central casting.

DNC targeting key Republicans over shutdown


Ted Cruz: Hurting the GOP brand?
Cruz: Debt ceiling is the best leverage
Sen. Ted Cruz: GOP's odd man out
S.E. Cupp: Ted Cruz is a hero Cruz might be responsible for pushing the United States government to the apogee of dysfunction, but for Democratic operatives charged with winning elections, any Cruz is good news.

"It's not that we're making Cruz a bogeyman," said Mo Elleithee, the communications director for the Democratic National Committee. "It's that Republicans are making him their leader. We're more than happy to have a debate with them over whether that's a good thing for the country or not."

With helpful prodding from top Democrats in the nation's capital, the "debate" over Cruz is playing out in races around the country, far from the halls of the Congress.

When Carl DeMaio, a Republican House candidate in southern California, made a sympathetic remark about Cruz during a speech to the Downtown San Diego Lions Club last week, operatives from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in Washington quickly packaged the clip and circulated it to local reporters under the slug: "Carl DeMaio's model legislator: Ted Cruz."

In the New York mayor's race, long shot Republican nominee Joe Lhota said in a radio interview that he favored delaying the Affordable Care Act's individual insurance mandate by a year. The campaign of Democrat Bill de Blasio immediately turned their cannons on Lhota, accusing him of "marching in lockstep with Republican extremists like Ted Cruz."

Across the Hudson River in New Jersey, Democratic Senate candidate Cory Booker name-dropped Cruz during an attack on his GOP opponent Tuesday.

'The Ted Cruz strategy'

And over the past two weeks, strategists working for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee have been carpet-bombing local reporters in Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Montana, North Carolina and West Virginia with statements accusing GOP Senate candidates in those states of supporting "the Ted Cruz strategy" of political brinksmanship.

The Texan also appears in a pair of new television ads about the shutdown from MoveOn.org and Organizing for Action, the White House's political operation.

Washington's warm bath of celebrity and self-interest

Then there's American Bridge, the well-funded Democratic research group that launched a cheeky website, "SpeakerCruz.com," after reports surfaced that the Texas senator was brazenly advising GOP House members from across the Capitol before the shutdown began. The website depicts Cruz telling an anguished Boehner, "I got it from here, bud."

"Ted Cruz is a powerful tool for Democrats for the same reasons he's so popular among the Republican base: he's perfectly emblematic of where today's Republican Party is and where it's headed," said Chris Harris, a spokesman for American Bridge. "The tea party loves him for leading the Republican Party into this shutdown, but the vast majority of Americans see it as the disaster it truly is."

Nowhere has this theory been put to the test more than in the Virginia governor's race, where Cruz chewed up more than a week's worth of campaign oxygen in the closely watched contest between Republican Ken Cuccinelli and Democrat Terry McAuliffe.

Cruz promises Republican victory in shutdown fight


Analysis: This is Obama-Cruz shutdown
Podesta: Ted Cruz 'running the House' After the government lurched toward shutdown last week, Democrats were handed a well-timed gift: Cruz had been previously booked to deliver the keynote address at a conservative gala in Richmond where, as it happened, Cuccinelli was also scheduled to speak.

McAuliffe's campaign cut a television and radio ad binding the two Republicans together, just as the 170,000 Virginians who take home a federal paycheck were bracing for furloughs and service cutbacks.

"Look who's coming to Virginia this weekend," a stern-sounding narrator intoned on the radio ad, which was still on the air as of this week. "Ted Cruz, the Republican senator from Texas who is the leader of the government shutdown. Cruz is coming in to campaign for another radical Republican, Ken Cuccinelli."

The Democratic Party of Virginia launched a similar broadside, blitzing households with robocalls admonishing Cuccinelli. American Bridge got in on the act, too, creating a "Dump Cruz" petition demanding that Cuccinelli not appear with the Texan.

Zelizer: D.C. crisis could jump-start case for reform

An uncomfortable position

Forget that Cuccinelli, himself a tea party darling, was technically not holding a campaign event with Cruz. The onslaught put Cuccinelli in a vise grip, drowning out his message and putting him in the awkward position of demanding an end to the government stalemate while dodging questions about Cruz's role in the Beltway drama.

When Cuccinelli finally did speak at the Family Foundation dinner on Saturday night, he made only a passing reference to the shutdown and made no mention of Cruz, one of the GOP's biggest stars who happened to be waiting backstage only a few yards away.


Rep. King: Ted Cruz is a fraud He slipped out the Richmond Convention Center in a hurry, well before Cruz took the stage.

Aside from surveys that show the shutdown to be deeply unpopular, the blame-it-on-Cruz strategy is, at the moment, more of a safe bet than a poll-tested message.

Polls show a vast majority of Americans disapprove of the shutdown, and a CNN/ORC poll on Monday showed Republicans in Congress shouldering slightly more of the blame for the stalemate than Democrats or President Obama.

Yet while Americans seem to have clear opinions on the shutdown, Cruz is a much less defined figure. In a poll from Quinnipiac University released last week, almost 60% of Americans said they did not know enough about Cruz to have an opinion about him. Among those who did, opinions were slightly more negative than positive.

Democrats working on the Virginia governor's race tested Cruz's name in a focus group with roughly 30 undecided voters race this past weekend, according to a person familiar with the session, which was held in the Washington suburbs where the shutdown's impact is felt most acutely.

According to the source, Cruz was not a well-known personality among the voters. But when the Democratic operatives described Cruz as a tea party leader with a prominent role in the shutdown, and said he was appearing with Cuccinelli at the gala Saturday night, impressions of both men soured among the focus group participants.

Some Republican pragmatists, already worried that emboldened conservative hard-liners are tarnishing the party's brand, acknowledge that Democrats appear to have found a potent weapon in Cruz.

David Kochel, a 26-year veteran of Iowa politics who managed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign in the battleground state, said bluntly that "swing voters are repelled by Cruz."

Little personal downside for Cruz

But there is little personal downside in the high stakes fight for Cruz, an in-demand figure on the conservative speaking circuit who has designs on the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Having a Democratic bulls eye on his back only boosts his stature on the right, Kochel argued.

"It's an interesting strategy that works to the benefit of Democrats who want to attach his brand to the GOP at a time when he's underwater in approval ratings, but it also works to Cruz's benefit because it elevates him with the GOP base," he said.

Rick Wilson, a Florida-based Republican strategist, said Cruz is custom-built for today's political environment, in which political leaders are often rewarded for combat and punished for compromise.

"The base loves him, he's become the Official Enemy of the Left, and he's raising major bank," Wilson said. "This is the United States of Ambition, and he's making his bones, fast."

Cruz's white-hot profile could easily fade in the coming months, well before the 2014 midterm cycle begins in earnest. But the Republican has shown a remarkably canny ability to maneuver his way into the national conversation.

As long as Cruz remains in the spotlight, Democrats have plans to use him to their advantage.

"Right now, Ted Cruz and the tea party has become a synonym for the problem, and we're going to continue to use that against the Republicans who voted with him," said one national Democratic strategist working on a number of House races. "How big that will be next year, the verdict is still out on that."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/politics/shutdown-ted-cruz-democrats/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Necrosis on October 09, 2013, 11:45:14 AM
I smell fear.   :)

Ted Cruz: Democrats' new bogeyman
By Peter Hamby, CNN Digital National Political Correspondent
updated 11:27 AM EDT, Wed October 9, 2013

Richmond, Virginia (CNN) -- It's official: Ted Cruz is Democratic enemy number one.

In the span of a year, Cruz has transformed himself from a little-known Senate candidate into the face of a government shutdown that has roiled Washington politics and raised questions about the viability of the American political process.

Democrats are now raising his profile at every turn, in political campaigns from Brooklyn to San Diego, casting him as a right wing zealot and hoping to hang the controversial tea party icon around the necks of every Republican office-seeker in the country.

Cruz: Use debt ceiling debate for leverage

The first-term Texas senator, a shrewd and often shameless promoter of stand-your-ground conservatism, is currently starring in a slew of television ads, talking points and a raft of fundraising emails attacking Republicans over the ongoing government shutdown.

Far from being an object of fear, Cruz is a welcome newcomer for Democrats -- the embodiment of what they claim is dangerous tea party obstructionism, and a far more useful villain than Mitch McConnell, John Boehner or any of the buttoned-up regulars straight out of Capitol Hill central casting.

DNC targeting key Republicans over shutdown


Ted Cruz: Hurting the GOP brand?
Cruz: Debt ceiling is the best leverage
Sen. Ted Cruz: GOP's odd man out
S.E. Cupp: Ted Cruz is a hero Cruz might be responsible for pushing the United States government to the apogee of dysfunction, but for Democratic operatives charged with winning elections, any Cruz is good news.

"It's not that we're making Cruz a bogeyman," said Mo Elleithee, the communications director for the Democratic National Committee. "It's that Republicans are making him their leader. We're more than happy to have a debate with them over whether that's a good thing for the country or not."

With helpful prodding from top Democrats in the nation's capital, the "debate" over Cruz is playing out in races around the country, far from the halls of the Congress.

When Carl DeMaio, a Republican House candidate in southern California, made a sympathetic remark about Cruz during a speech to the Downtown San Diego Lions Club last week, operatives from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in Washington quickly packaged the clip and circulated it to local reporters under the slug: "Carl DeMaio's model legislator: Ted Cruz."

In the New York mayor's race, long shot Republican nominee Joe Lhota said in a radio interview that he favored delaying the Affordable Care Act's individual insurance mandate by a year. The campaign of Democrat Bill de Blasio immediately turned their cannons on Lhota, accusing him of "marching in lockstep with Republican extremists like Ted Cruz."

Across the Hudson River in New Jersey, Democratic Senate candidate Cory Booker name-dropped Cruz during an attack on his GOP opponent Tuesday.

'The Ted Cruz strategy'

And over the past two weeks, strategists working for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee have been carpet-bombing local reporters in Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Montana, North Carolina and West Virginia with statements accusing GOP Senate candidates in those states of supporting "the Ted Cruz strategy" of political brinksmanship.

The Texan also appears in a pair of new television ads about the shutdown from MoveOn.org and Organizing for Action, the White House's political operation.

Washington's warm bath of celebrity and self-interest

Then there's American Bridge, the well-funded Democratic research group that launched a cheeky website, "SpeakerCruz.com," after reports surfaced that the Texas senator was brazenly advising GOP House members from across the Capitol before the shutdown began. The website depicts Cruz telling an anguished Boehner, "I got it from here, bud."

"Ted Cruz is a powerful tool for Democrats for the same reasons he's so popular among the Republican base: he's perfectly emblematic of where today's Republican Party is and where it's headed," said Chris Harris, a spokesman for American Bridge. "The tea party loves him for leading the Republican Party into this shutdown, but the vast majority of Americans see it as the disaster it truly is."

Nowhere has this theory been put to the test more than in the Virginia governor's race, where Cruz chewed up more than a week's worth of campaign oxygen in the closely watched contest between Republican Ken Cuccinelli and Democrat Terry McAuliffe.

Cruz promises Republican victory in shutdown fight


Analysis: This is Obama-Cruz shutdown
Podesta: Ted Cruz 'running the House' After the government lurched toward shutdown last week, Democrats were handed a well-timed gift: Cruz had been previously booked to deliver the keynote address at a conservative gala in Richmond where, as it happened, Cuccinelli was also scheduled to speak.

McAuliffe's campaign cut a television and radio ad binding the two Republicans together, just as the 170,000 Virginians who take home a federal paycheck were bracing for furloughs and service cutbacks.

"Look who's coming to Virginia this weekend," a stern-sounding narrator intoned on the radio ad, which was still on the air as of this week. "Ted Cruz, the Republican senator from Texas who is the leader of the government shutdown. Cruz is coming in to campaign for another radical Republican, Ken Cuccinelli."

The Democratic Party of Virginia launched a similar broadside, blitzing households with robocalls admonishing Cuccinelli. American Bridge got in on the act, too, creating a "Dump Cruz" petition demanding that Cuccinelli not appear with the Texan.

Zelizer: D.C. crisis could jump-start case for reform

An uncomfortable position

Forget that Cuccinelli, himself a tea party darling, was technically not holding a campaign event with Cruz. The onslaught put Cuccinelli in a vise grip, drowning out his message and putting him in the awkward position of demanding an end to the government stalemate while dodging questions about Cruz's role in the Beltway drama.

When Cuccinelli finally did speak at the Family Foundation dinner on Saturday night, he made only a passing reference to the shutdown and made no mention of Cruz, one of the GOP's biggest stars who happened to be waiting backstage only a few yards away.


Rep. King: Ted Cruz is a fraud He slipped out the Richmond Convention Center in a hurry, well before Cruz took the stage.

Aside from surveys that show the shutdown to be deeply unpopular, the blame-it-on-Cruz strategy is, at the moment, more of a safe bet than a poll-tested message.

Polls show a vast majority of Americans disapprove of the shutdown, and a CNN/ORC poll on Monday showed Republicans in Congress shouldering slightly more of the blame for the stalemate than Democrats or President Obama.

Yet while Americans seem to have clear opinions on the shutdown, Cruz is a much less defined figure. In a poll from Quinnipiac University released last week, almost 60% of Americans said they did not know enough about Cruz to have an opinion about him. Among those who did, opinions were slightly more negative than positive.

Democrats working on the Virginia governor's race tested Cruz's name in a focus group with roughly 30 undecided voters race this past weekend, according to a person familiar with the session, which was held in the Washington suburbs where the shutdown's impact is felt most acutely.

According to the source, Cruz was not a well-known personality among the voters. But when the Democratic operatives described Cruz as a tea party leader with a prominent role in the shutdown, and said he was appearing with Cuccinelli at the gala Saturday night, impressions of both men soured among the focus group participants.

Some Republican pragmatists, already worried that emboldened conservative hard-liners are tarnishing the party's brand, acknowledge that Democrats appear to have found a potent weapon in Cruz.

David Kochel, a 26-year veteran of Iowa politics who managed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign in the battleground state, said bluntly that "swing voters are repelled by Cruz."

Little personal downside for Cruz

But there is little personal downside in the high stakes fight for Cruz, an in-demand figure on the conservative speaking circuit who has designs on the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Having a Democratic bulls eye on his back only boosts his stature on the right, Kochel argued.

"It's an interesting strategy that works to the benefit of Democrats who want to attach his brand to the GOP at a time when he's underwater in approval ratings, but it also works to Cruz's benefit because it elevates him with the GOP base," he said.

Rick Wilson, a Florida-based Republican strategist, said Cruz is custom-built for today's political environment, in which political leaders are often rewarded for combat and punished for compromise.

"The base loves him, he's become the Official Enemy of the Left, and he's raising major bank," Wilson said. "This is the United States of Ambition, and he's making his bones, fast."

Cruz's white-hot profile could easily fade in the coming months, well before the 2014 midterm cycle begins in earnest. But the Republican has shown a remarkably canny ability to maneuver his way into the national conversation.

As long as Cruz remains in the spotlight, Democrats have plans to use him to their advantage.

"Right now, Ted Cruz and the tea party has become a synonym for the problem, and we're going to continue to use that against the Republicans who voted with him," said one national Democratic strategist working on a number of House races. "How big that will be next year, the verdict is still out on that."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/politics/shutdown-ted-cruz-democrats/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3

Fear that a money hungry, corrupt moron is chasing power...sure.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 09, 2013, 11:46:01 AM
Fear that a money hungry, corrupt moron is chasing power...sure.

 ::)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 09, 2013, 04:36:10 PM
I smell fear.   :)

Ted Cruz: Democrats' new bogeyman
By Peter Hamby, CNN Digital National Political Correspondent
updated 11:27 AM EDT, Wed October 9, 2013

Richmond, Virginia (CNN) -- It's official: Ted Cruz is Democratic enemy number one.

In the span of a year, Cruz has transformed himself from a little-known Senate candidate into the face of a government shutdown that has roiled Washington politics and raised questions about the viability of the American political process.

Democrats are now raising his profile at every turn, in political campaigns from Brooklyn to San Diego, casting him as a right wing zealot and hoping to hang the controversial tea party icon around the necks of every Republican office-seeker in the country.

Cruz: Use debt ceiling debate for leverage

The first-term Texas senator, a shrewd and often shameless promoter of stand-your-ground conservatism, is currently starring in a slew of television ads, talking points and a raft of fundraising emails attacking Republicans over the ongoing government shutdown.

Far from being an object of fear, Cruz is a welcome newcomer for Democrats -- the embodiment of what they claim is dangerous tea party obstructionism, and a far more useful villain than Mitch McConnell, John Boehner or any of the buttoned-up regulars straight out of Capitol Hill central casting.

DNC targeting key Republicans over shutdown


Ted Cruz: Hurting the GOP brand?
Cruz: Debt ceiling is the best leverage
Sen. Ted Cruz: GOP's odd man out
S.E. Cupp: Ted Cruz is a hero Cruz might be responsible for pushing the United States government to the apogee of dysfunction, but for Democratic operatives charged with winning elections, any Cruz is good news.

"It's not that we're making Cruz a bogeyman," said Mo Elleithee, the communications director for the Democratic National Committee. "It's that Republicans are making him their leader. We're more than happy to have a debate with them over whether that's a good thing for the country or not."

With helpful prodding from top Democrats in the nation's capital, the "debate" over Cruz is playing out in races around the country, far from the halls of the Congress.

When Carl DeMaio, a Republican House candidate in southern California, made a sympathetic remark about Cruz during a speech to the Downtown San Diego Lions Club last week, operatives from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in Washington quickly packaged the clip and circulated it to local reporters under the slug: "Carl DeMaio's model legislator: Ted Cruz."

In the New York mayor's race, long shot Republican nominee Joe Lhota said in a radio interview that he favored delaying the Affordable Care Act's individual insurance mandate by a year. The campaign of Democrat Bill de Blasio immediately turned their cannons on Lhota, accusing him of "marching in lockstep with Republican extremists like Ted Cruz."

Across the Hudson River in New Jersey, Democratic Senate candidate Cory Booker name-dropped Cruz during an attack on his GOP opponent Tuesday.

'The Ted Cruz strategy'

And over the past two weeks, strategists working for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee have been carpet-bombing local reporters in Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Michigan, Montana, North Carolina and West Virginia with statements accusing GOP Senate candidates in those states of supporting "the Ted Cruz strategy" of political brinksmanship.

The Texan also appears in a pair of new television ads about the shutdown from MoveOn.org and Organizing for Action, the White House's political operation.

Washington's warm bath of celebrity and self-interest

Then there's American Bridge, the well-funded Democratic research group that launched a cheeky website, "SpeakerCruz.com," after reports surfaced that the Texas senator was brazenly advising GOP House members from across the Capitol before the shutdown began. The website depicts Cruz telling an anguished Boehner, "I got it from here, bud."

"Ted Cruz is a powerful tool for Democrats for the same reasons he's so popular among the Republican base: he's perfectly emblematic of where today's Republican Party is and where it's headed," said Chris Harris, a spokesman for American Bridge. "The tea party loves him for leading the Republican Party into this shutdown, but the vast majority of Americans see it as the disaster it truly is."

Nowhere has this theory been put to the test more than in the Virginia governor's race, where Cruz chewed up more than a week's worth of campaign oxygen in the closely watched contest between Republican Ken Cuccinelli and Democrat Terry McAuliffe.

Cruz promises Republican victory in shutdown fight


Analysis: This is Obama-Cruz shutdown
Podesta: Ted Cruz 'running the House' After the government lurched toward shutdown last week, Democrats were handed a well-timed gift: Cruz had been previously booked to deliver the keynote address at a conservative gala in Richmond where, as it happened, Cuccinelli was also scheduled to speak.

McAuliffe's campaign cut a television and radio ad binding the two Republicans together, just as the 170,000 Virginians who take home a federal paycheck were bracing for furloughs and service cutbacks.

"Look who's coming to Virginia this weekend," a stern-sounding narrator intoned on the radio ad, which was still on the air as of this week. "Ted Cruz, the Republican senator from Texas who is the leader of the government shutdown. Cruz is coming in to campaign for another radical Republican, Ken Cuccinelli."

The Democratic Party of Virginia launched a similar broadside, blitzing households with robocalls admonishing Cuccinelli. American Bridge got in on the act, too, creating a "Dump Cruz" petition demanding that Cuccinelli not appear with the Texan.

Zelizer: D.C. crisis could jump-start case for reform

An uncomfortable position

Forget that Cuccinelli, himself a tea party darling, was technically not holding a campaign event with Cruz. The onslaught put Cuccinelli in a vise grip, drowning out his message and putting him in the awkward position of demanding an end to the government stalemate while dodging questions about Cruz's role in the Beltway drama.

When Cuccinelli finally did speak at the Family Foundation dinner on Saturday night, he made only a passing reference to the shutdown and made no mention of Cruz, one of the GOP's biggest stars who happened to be waiting backstage only a few yards away.


Rep. King: Ted Cruz is a fraud He slipped out the Richmond Convention Center in a hurry, well before Cruz took the stage.

Aside from surveys that show the shutdown to be deeply unpopular, the blame-it-on-Cruz strategy is, at the moment, more of a safe bet than a poll-tested message.

Polls show a vast majority of Americans disapprove of the shutdown, and a CNN/ORC poll on Monday showed Republicans in Congress shouldering slightly more of the blame for the stalemate than Democrats or President Obama.

Yet while Americans seem to have clear opinions on the shutdown, Cruz is a much less defined figure. In a poll from Quinnipiac University released last week, almost 60% of Americans said they did not know enough about Cruz to have an opinion about him. Among those who did, opinions were slightly more negative than positive.

Democrats working on the Virginia governor's race tested Cruz's name in a focus group with roughly 30 undecided voters race this past weekend, according to a person familiar with the session, which was held in the Washington suburbs where the shutdown's impact is felt most acutely.

According to the source, Cruz was not a well-known personality among the voters. But when the Democratic operatives described Cruz as a tea party leader with a prominent role in the shutdown, and said he was appearing with Cuccinelli at the gala Saturday night, impressions of both men soured among the focus group participants.

Some Republican pragmatists, already worried that emboldened conservative hard-liners are tarnishing the party's brand, acknowledge that Democrats appear to have found a potent weapon in Cruz.

David Kochel, a 26-year veteran of Iowa politics who managed Mitt Romney's presidential campaign in the battleground state, said bluntly that "swing voters are repelled by Cruz."

Little personal downside for Cruz

But there is little personal downside in the high stakes fight for Cruz, an in-demand figure on the conservative speaking circuit who has designs on the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Having a Democratic bulls eye on his back only boosts his stature on the right, Kochel argued.

"It's an interesting strategy that works to the benefit of Democrats who want to attach his brand to the GOP at a time when he's underwater in approval ratings, but it also works to Cruz's benefit because it elevates him with the GOP base," he said.

Rick Wilson, a Florida-based Republican strategist, said Cruz is custom-built for today's political environment, in which political leaders are often rewarded for combat and punished for compromise.

"The base loves him, he's become the Official Enemy of the Left, and he's raising major bank," Wilson said. "This is the United States of Ambition, and he's making his bones, fast."

Cruz's white-hot profile could easily fade in the coming months, well before the 2014 midterm cycle begins in earnest. But the Republican has shown a remarkably canny ability to maneuver his way into the national conversation.

As long as Cruz remains in the spotlight, Democrats have plans to use him to their advantage.

"Right now, Ted Cruz and the tea party has become a synonym for the problem, and we're going to continue to use that against the Republicans who voted with him," said one national Democratic strategist working on a number of House races. "How big that will be next year, the verdict is still out on that."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/politics/shutdown-ted-cruz-democrats/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3

Dems LOVE Ted Cruz

That fear you smell is coming from your own party

Repubs hate him and truly fears him (and they fear him not because he is doing anything good but rather because he is a nutbag and they are all getting blamed for his actions)

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 09, 2013, 08:46:07 PM
Ted Cruz 2016?  Thank You God!  He'll be the 1st Repudlicker since '64 to lose Texas if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Fury on October 09, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
Ted Cruz 2016?  Thank You God!  He'll be the 1st Repudlicker since '64 to lose Texas if I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, because he wasn't handily elected to the Senate in Texas or anything.  ::)

Stupid post from a stupid gimmick.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 09, 2013, 08:50:53 PM
Yeah, because he wasn't handily elected to the Senate in Texas or anything.  ::)

Stupid post from a stupid gimmick.

Your mother likes my gimmick.  True story.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on October 11, 2013, 02:46:10 PM
Yeah, because he wasn't handily elected to the Senate in Texas or anything.  ::)

Stupid post from a stupid gimmick.
that's because we didn't know him.
now we do.
will lose the mexican vote
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 11, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
Heckled at Values Voter Summit, Ted Cruz escalates feud with John McCain
By Todd J. Gillman
tgillman@dallasnews.com
9:39 am on October 11, 2013 

WASHINGTON — Heckler after heckler rose to challenge Sen. Ted Cruz this morning at a major gathering of social conservatives, hoping to break his flow. It turned out the Texas senator has an endless supply of comebacks.

“President Obama’s paid political operatives are out in force today … You know why? Because the men and women in this room scare the living daylights out of them,” he said after the second interruption.

Another woman popped up moments later.

“Is anybody left at the Organizing for America headquarters?” he said.

After the fifth or sixth heckler, Cruz asserted that he had now faced more questions in the span of a few minutes than President Obama has taken in the last year. “Let me make an offer to our president …. If he wants to get a hundred of his most rabid political operatives in a room, I’ll answer questions as long as he likes.” In exchange, Cruz said, Obama would have to take 10 people from the Values Voter Summit and answer their questions for a half-hour.

Another speaker might have lost his train of thought, grown flustered or nasty. Cruz, speaking as always without notes, kept going unflapped.

And after yet another heckler, Cruz grew somber and combative. “The left will always always always tell you who they fear,” he said – leaving it hanging for a moment, implying that he is the biggest threat. “And they fear you. They fear the American people.”

The crowd ate it up. More than 1,000 activists filled a ballroom at the Omni Shoreham hotel for the annual summit, organized by the Family Research Council. Cruz’s crusade against Obamacare has made his star burn even brighter on the right, boding well for a 2016 presidential bid.

He noted the stiff resistance he has faced in the effort to fight Obamacare.

“It was far too risky, and if there’s one overarching urge in Washington, it is risk-aversion,” he said. “…None of us know what’s going to happen on this Obamacare fight. In my view, the House of Representatives needs to keep doing what it’s doing, which is standing strong.

He drew a strong ovation.

But so much for any détente between Cruz and Sen. John McCain, who has called Cruz a “wacko bird” and derided the push to defund Obamacare as “not rational” and a “fool’s errand.”

The man who introduced Cruz Friday morning, Brent Bozell, founder and president of the Media Research Center, blasted the 2008 GOP nominee for president as one of the “whiners” and “faux conservatives” who have criticized Cruz for leading the fight that triggered the government shutdown.

Cruz embraced Bozell and made no effort to repudiate his comments.

“They’re trying to destroy him and make no mistake about that,” Bozell said. “Until Ted Cruz came along with Mike Lee, they had no Plan B. They had no Plan A.”

Bozell singled out McCain as intellectually dishonest, noting that in his 2010 reelection, he had vowed to fight Obamacare.

The Omni is not far from the National Zoo which — if not for today’s pouring rain and, of course, the shutdown — would be teeming with visitors.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, opened the gathering with bit of theater. Taking shots at Obama for erecting barricades to keep family vacationers out of national parks, and veterans away from war memorials, he gestured to crowd-control fences flanking the lectern on stage. The crowd cheered as assistants then moved those barricades.

The government shutdown, he said, “is like being in a perpetual TSA line.  Nobody seems to be moving but you still have to empty your pockets.”

Utah Sen. Mike Lee – Cruz’s partner in the anti-Obamacare crusade — spoke just before Cruz. He asserted that by maximize inconvenience for Americans, rather than mitigating the impact of the shutdown, Obama showed the dangers of letting the president control a vast new health care machinery.

“We must stop it. We must defund it, we cannot accept it,” Lee said.

He got a standing ovation when he said that for the tough fight to defund Obamacare, “We make no apologies.”

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/10/ted-cruz-at-value-voter-summit-escalating-feud-with-sen-john-mccain.html/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2013, 05:35:28 AM
Heckled at Values Voter Summit, Ted Cruz escalates feud with John McCain
By Todd J. Gillman
tgillman@dallasnews.com
9:39 am on October 11, 2013 

WASHINGTON — Heckler after heckler rose to challenge Sen. Ted Cruz this morning at a major gathering of social conservatives, hoping to break his flow. It turned out the Texas senator has an endless supply of comebacks.

“President Obama’s paid political operatives are out in force today … You know why? Because the men and women in this room scare the living daylights out of them,” he said after the second interruption.

Another woman popped up moments later.

“Is anybody left at the Organizing for America headquarters?” he said.

After the fifth or sixth heckler, Cruz asserted that he had now faced more questions in the span of a few minutes than President Obama has taken in the last year. “Let me make an offer to our president …. If he wants to get a hundred of his most rabid political operatives in a room, I’ll answer questions as long as he likes.” In exchange, Cruz said, Obama would have to take 10 people from the Values Voter Summit and answer their questions for a half-hour.

Another speaker might have lost his train of thought, grown flustered or nasty. Cruz, speaking as always without notes, kept going unflapped.

And after yet another heckler, Cruz grew somber and combative. “The left will always always always tell you who they fear,” he said – leaving it hanging for a moment, implying that he is the biggest threat. “And they fear you. They fear the American people.”

The crowd ate it up. More than 1,000 activists filled a ballroom at the Omni Shoreham hotel for the annual summit, organized by the Family Research Council. Cruz’s crusade against Obamacare has made his star burn even brighter on the right, boding well for a 2016 presidential bid.

He noted the stiff resistance he has faced in the effort to fight Obamacare.

“It was far too risky, and if there’s one overarching urge in Washington, it is risk-aversion,” he said. “…None of us know what’s going to happen on this Obamacare fight. In my view, the House of Representatives needs to keep doing what it’s doing, which is standing strong.

He drew a strong ovation.

But so much for any détente between Cruz and Sen. John McCain, who has called Cruz a “wacko bird” and derided the push to defund Obamacare as “not rational” and a “fool’s errand.”

The man who introduced Cruz Friday morning, Brent Bozell, founder and president of the Media Research Center, blasted the 2008 GOP nominee for president as one of the “whiners” and “faux conservatives” who have criticized Cruz for leading the fight that triggered the government shutdown.

Cruz embraced Bozell and made no effort to repudiate his comments.

“They’re trying to destroy him and make no mistake about that,” Bozell said. “Until Ted Cruz came along with Mike Lee, they had no Plan B. They had no Plan A.”

Bozell singled out McCain as intellectually dishonest, noting that in his 2010 reelection, he had vowed to fight Obamacare.

The Omni is not far from the National Zoo which — if not for today’s pouring rain and, of course, the shutdown — would be teeming with visitors.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, opened the gathering with bit of theater. Taking shots at Obama for erecting barricades to keep family vacationers out of national parks, and veterans away from war memorials, he gestured to crowd-control fences flanking the lectern on stage. The crowd cheered as assistants then moved those barricades.

The government shutdown, he said, “is like being in a perpetual TSA line.  Nobody seems to be moving but you still have to empty your pockets.”

Utah Sen. Mike Lee – Cruz’s partner in the anti-Obamacare crusade — spoke just before Cruz. He asserted that by maximize inconvenience for Americans, rather than mitigating the impact of the shutdown, Obama showed the dangers of letting the president control a vast new health care machinery.

“We must stop it. We must defund it, we cannot accept it,” Lee said.

He got a standing ovation when he said that for the tough fight to defund Obamacare, “We make no apologies.”

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/10/ted-cruz-at-value-voter-summit-escalating-feud-with-sen-john-mccain.html/

No, everyone knows how this is going to end, they have no chance at defunding obamacare, it's impossible currently and McCain was spot on.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 12, 2013, 10:33:06 AM
If you ever need an indicator of who will not be a national Republican leader all you need to do is look who is popular at the "Values Voters" summit

btw  - what values are being represented here?

profound stupidity, recklessness, hubris?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Necrosis on October 12, 2013, 11:20:54 AM
If you ever need an indicator of who will not be a national Republican leader all you need to do is look who is popular at the "Values Voters" summit

btw  - what values are being represented here?

profound stupidity, recklessness, hubris?

Not to mention Cruz solely did this for himself. There was never ever a chance at defunding Obamacare in this manner. Imagine if Obama said I won't open the government till there is a national gun registry etc...

This issue is settled like the IRS nonsense and Benghazi, another beating for the GOP.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 15, 2013, 09:14:34 AM
that's because we didn't know him.
now we do.
will lose the mexican vote

If by 'mexican vote' you mean all the illegals and foreign nationals the dems are encouraging to pour into texas, then yes, he will lose those, as is the dems' plan.
If you mean hispanic texans, you are aware that millions of them do not vote democrat right? Texas has more hispanics than any other state and yet still votes conservative.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Necrosis on October 15, 2013, 09:25:26 AM
If by 'mexican vote' you mean all the illegals and foreign nationals the dems are encouraging to pour into texas, then yes, he will lose those, as is the dems' plan.
If you mean hispanic texans, you are aware that millions of them do not vote democrat right? Texas has more hispanics than any other state and yet still votes conservative.

All Mexicans are illegal.

More hicks then any state also. Hence the GOP vote. apparently color of skin matters to you. I mean rednecks are butt fuck stupid.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 15, 2013, 09:31:59 AM
All Mexicans are illegal.

More hicks then any state also. Hence the GOP vote. apparently color of skin matters to you. I mean rednecks are butt fuck stupid.

Spoken like a real doctor
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2013, 10:26:59 AM
I've heard a number of other liberals say the same thing about him.  Very smart guy. 

Dershowitz: Ted Cruz Is an 'Intelligent,' 'Principled' Debater
Wednesday, 16 Oct 2013
By Greg Richter

Sen. Ted Cruz, who has led the tea-party wing of Republicans in Congress to push for defunding of Obamacare, is an intelligent and principled debater, says his old Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz.
 
Appearing Tuesday on CNN's "Piers Morgan Live," Dershowitz called the freshman Texas Republican "one of the sharpest students I had, in terms of analytic skills. I've had 10,000 students over my 50 years at Harvard. . . . He has to qualify among the brightest of the students."
 
Although some in his own party have accused him of grandstanding, Cruz deeply believes in what he is doing, Dershowtiz said. Cruz made intelligent points and won debates constantly in his class – including winning debates with professors, Dershowitz said.
 
Former economic adviser to President Barack Obama, Austan Goolsbee, appearing on Fox News Channel's "Hannity" on Tuesday, said much the same thing about his former Harvard classmate.
 
"I think Democrats would make a big mistake to underestimate him," Goolsby said. "I think he's very smart."

 
"He deeply believes what he's doing," Dershowitz said. "I don't think of him so much as a tactical or strategic thinker. He's deeply principled."
 
Cruz believes he's doing the right thing, Dershowitz said, though he said that doesn't mean he's always right.
 
"And he's very hard to get off that principled argument. I saw that years ago when he was a student," Dershowitz said. Cruz was not a compromiser and didn't care about making friends by accepting what was considered politically correct.
 
"If you want to defeat Ted Cruz," Dershowitz said, "you have to appeal to his principles, not to his tactics."
 
That said, Dershowitz thinks his former student has gone too far in pushing for defunding the Affordable Care Act. Republicans successfully tied the effort to 2014 fiscal year federal funding. An impasse with Obama and Democrats in the House and Senate led to a partial government shutdown beginning Oct. 1 and to a looming deadline to raise the debt ceiling on Oct. 17.
 
But Cruz' action raise serious constitutional questions "of the kind that Ted Cruz should be interested in," Dershowitz said. "Can you imagine [Alexander] Hamilton and [James] Madison sitting around and drafting the Constitution and the Federalist Papers?

"They're talking about how the government has to pay its debts, how it has to secure the credit of the United States. … Nobody, in a million years, would have contemplated the power of Congress to shut down the government to create doubts about our creditworthiness," Dershowitz said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cruz-dershowitz-intelligent-principled/2013/10/16/id/531276#ixzz2huHYW2sh
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2013, 10:29:24 AM
Ted Cruz raises $1.19 million in third quarter
BY MATEA GOLD
October 15 at 5:03 pm

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) has been pilloried for his attempt to use a stopgap budget measure to undermine the Affordable Care Act, a maneuver that set in motion the current federal government shutdown and the crisis in Congress. But his role as a leader of the defund movement has only elevated his standing among conservative activists.

That’s clear in the latest fundraising report filed by his joint fundraising committee, in which Cruz reported raising nearly $800,000 in the third quarter. That’s almost double the amount that the Ted Cruz Victory Committee raised from April 1 to June 30, shortly after it was formed.

The Texas senator brought in additional funds directly through his Senate reelection committee and his leadership PAC in the last three months, giving him a total raise of $1.19 million for the third quarter, according to figures released Tuesday evening by his campaign. That's up from the $1 million-plus he raised in total in the second quarter.

In all, Cruz received 12,000 donations in the third quarter and ended September with nearly $1.6 million on hand.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/10/15/ted-cruz-raises-nearly-800000-in-third-quarter/?hpid=z10
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 16, 2013, 10:32:18 AM
More from Dershowitz

http://news.yahoo.com/dershowitz-throws-constitution-figuratively-ted-cruz-141406725--politics.html

Dershowitz throws the Constitution, figuratively, at Ted Cruz

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After praising Cruz as a student, as he had done earlier this year, Dershowitz leveled some harsh claims against him.

“He has to qualify among the brightest of the students,” Dershowitz said, who added that Cruz is deeply principled.

But when it came to the shutdown and debt-ceiling fight, Dershowitz made his case.

“I think it raises very serious constitutional questions of the kind that Ted Cruz should be interested in. Could you imagine Hamilton and Madison sitting around and drafting the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. They’re talking about how the government has to pay its debts, how it has to secure the credit of the United States, how the House of Representatives to originate bills on revenue. Nobody in a million years would have contemplated the power of Congress to shut down the government, to create doubts about our creditworthiness,” he said.

“I think you can make a very strong argument that what Ted Cruz is doing is deeply unconstitutional. Whether a court would accept that or say it’s a political question is another issue, but Cruz is a principled man. He ought to look at the Constitution and look into his heart and ask himself, ‘What would Alexander Hamilton have done,’” Dershowitz said.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 16, 2013, 01:46:36 PM
he's smart, he just lacks common sense at time.

"We need 100 jesse helms" wasn't something that'll help him against hilary in 2016.

But it will probably get him the nomination, so maybe he's pretty smart in that aspect.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2013, 01:49:16 PM
he's smart, he just lacks common sense at time.

"We need 100 jesse helms" wasn't something that'll help him against hilary in 2016.

But it will probably get him the nomination, so maybe he's pretty smart in that aspect.

Turning on Cruz already?  I'm shocked.  Shocked I tell you. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 16, 2013, 02:21:03 PM
Turning on Cruz already?  I'm shocked.  Shocked I tell you. 

I haven't turned on anyone.  I'm capable of pointing out the positives and negatives of candidates.  Out of the bunch right now, I like Cruz the best.

BB, you're allowed to observe the good and bad things about each candidate.  It's not "turning on" someone to admit their flaws.  Actually, I'd MUCH rather trust an analysis of a candidate that discusses both the good and bad points - I would never believe a person that refuses to admit anything is wrong with 'their guy'.

I can and will point out good and bad points about all the repubs and dems in the 2016 field.  it's what the political board is for. 

To clarify, Cruz is very capable of beating Hilary - probably the best chance out of what we've seen in the 2016 possibilities so far.  I hope he runs and I hope he wins.  But I admit he's not perfect.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2013, 02:35:31 PM
I haven't turned on anyone.  I'm capable of pointing out the positives and negatives of candidates.  Out of the bunch right now, I like Cruz the best.

BB, you're allowed to observe the good and bad things about each candidate.  It's not "turning on" someone to admit their flaws.  Actually, I'd MUCH rather trust an analysis of a candidate that discusses both the good and bad points - I would never believe a person that refuses to admit anything is wrong with 'their guy'.

I can and will point out good and bad points about all the repubs and dems in the 2016 field.  it's what the political board is for. 

To clarify, Cruz is very capable of beating Hilary - probably the best chance out of what we've seen in the 2016 possibilities so far.  I hope he runs and I hope he wins.  But I admit he's not perfect.


Yeah.  Whatever you say.  I'm sure you'll be pointing out a lot of "bad" things about Cruz. 

I don't know whether he is the right person in 2016.  Depends on how he performs and who else is running.  But I do like what I've read and seen so far from him.  Definitely smarter than the guy occupying the White House now. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on October 16, 2013, 03:04:36 PM
Yeah.  Whatever you say.  I'm sure you'll be pointing out a lot of "bad" things about Cruz. 

I don't know whether he is the right person in 2016.  Depends on how he performs and who else is running.  But I do like what I've read and seen so far from him.  Definitely smarter than the guy occupying the White House now. 

If he can't then what's the worst case scenario? A solid voice in the senate for the next couple decades? I'll take that.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 16, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
If he can't then what's the worst case scenario? A solid voice in the senate for the next couple decades? I'll take that.

True.  We need smart, accomplished people in government.  I hope he stays. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Necrosis on October 16, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
Spoken like a real doctor

I was being factitious but I can see that was lost on you.

aids is a conspiracy
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on October 17, 2013, 12:56:29 PM
blink blink blink
teddy blinked
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 18, 2013, 10:43:44 AM
Cruz: This Wasn't The 'Ted Cruz Shutdown'
Thursday, 17 Oct 2013
By Greg Richter

Sen. Ted Cruz would do "anything" to stop full implementation of Obamacare, he told ABC News' Jonathan Karl when asked if he would be willing to allow another government shutdown in his fight against the healthcare law.

"I would do anything, and I will continue to do anything I can, to stop the train wreck that is Obamacare," Cruz, R-Texas, said Thursday on ABC's "World News Tonight."

Cruz was unfazed when Karl told him that the 16-day shutdown that ended late Wednesday is seen as "the Ted Cruz shutdown."

"Jon, I agree that a lot of D.C. politicians tried to call it that, and a lot of the media did, too," Cruz said. But the freshman senator said he repeatedly declared he didn't want a shutdown, and repeatedly voted to reopen the government.

Blame, he said, lies with Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and President Barack Obama for their refusal to negotiate or compromise. Cruz led the effort to tie defunding of Obamacare to the continuing budget resolution.

Republican leadership blasted Cruz, saying that while they agreed with his argument, his tactic wouldn't work. Polls showed the public blamed Democrats, Republicans and Obama for the impasse, but Republicans took the biggest hit, seeing their approval ratings hit a record low.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who along with Reid hammered out the final deal that ended the shutdown took a different view, saying there would be no further shutdowns.

"One of my favorite old Kentucky sayings is there's no education in the second kick of a mule," McConnell told The Hill.

http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/ted-cruz-anything-obamacare-shutdown/2013/10/17/id/531704#ixzz2i63KbF00
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: dario73 on October 18, 2013, 10:49:42 AM
Cruz: This Wasn't The 'Ted Cruz Shutdown'
"One of my favorite old Kentucky sayings is there's no education in the second kick of a mule," McConnell told The Hill.

http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/ted-cruz-anything-obamacare-shutdown/2013/10/17/id/531704#ixzz2i63KbF00

If there is anyone that needs to get mule-kicked in the head, it is McConnell.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 18, 2013, 11:14:55 AM
If there is anyone that needs to get mule-kicked in the head, it is McConnell.

Agree.  Scoring that earmark was pretty darn bad.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 18, 2013, 11:49:06 AM
Cruz: This Wasn't The 'Ted Cruz Shutdown'


LOL, oh NOW he wants to disown it?  haha I bet if obama had folded instead of winning 100% of his obhectives (as palin admitted), Cruz woudln't be distancing himself from the shutdown.

Appearing on Fox News on Monday, Cruz argued that the shutdown — for which he toured the country and swayed his House colleagues — would end up doing Republicans more good than harm in the next election cycle.   http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/10/ted-cruz-convinced-his-strategy-will-lead-republicans-2014-victory/70299/

Sorry, but Cruz OWNS the shutdown, for good or for bad.  He toured the country to convince house members to join in, according to FOX news lol.  If the shutdown had been a success, and not a failure, Cruz would have rode it straight to the 2016 nomination.  We all know this.  Wisely so, too. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: dario73 on October 18, 2013, 01:34:09 PM
LOL, oh NOW he wants to disown it?  

Sorry, but can you put up a link where he claimed that it was his shutdown?

You can say he was misguided, but to say that he made it all about himself is silly even for yourself.

At least, he stood up for what he believes in, unlike the faggoty republicans in the house of representatives who voted to kick the can down the road for another 5 months. WOOOOHOOO!!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 18, 2013, 02:16:04 PM
Sorry, but can you put up a link where he claimed that it was his shutdown?

You can say he was misguided, but to say that he made it all about himself is silly even for yourself.

At least, he stood up for what he believes in, unlike the faggoty republicans in the house of representatives who voted to kick the can down the road for another 5 months. WOOOOHOOO!!

That last part is the key...and exactly why conservatives are appreciating him...for the first time they have someone who will actually MAKE A STAND, on principle, even knowing it may hurt him. Conservatives are sick of, and have had nothing but, defeatist wimpy RINOS who inevitably cave under pressure and sell out the cause, and for once they somebody who actually can't be backed down.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Roger Bacon on October 18, 2013, 02:50:50 PM
That last part is the key...and exactly why conservatives are appreciating him...for the first time they have someone who will actually MAKE A STAND, on principle, even knowing it may hurt him. Conservatives are sick of, and have had nothing but, defeatist wimpy RINOS who inevitably cave under pressure and sell out the cause, and for once they somebody who actually can't be backed down.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on October 19, 2013, 04:46:48 AM
That last part is the key...and exactly why conservatives are appreciating him...for the first time they have someone who will actually MAKE A STAND, on principle, even knowing it may hurt him. Conservatives are sick of, and have had nothing but, defeatist wimpy RINOS who inevitably cave under pressure and sell out the cause, and for once they somebody who actually can't be backed down.


Then what do you call this quote?:

Cruz: This Wasn't The 'Ted Cruz Shutdown'


He might not have backed down but he didnt take any resposibility either. A sad man.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2013, 06:52:10 AM
I admire him for making the move, and as fox said, traveling and getting everyone on board.  it was a cool move.  But now that it failed, it seems the GOP establishment is using this to TRASH him.  Palin, boehnner, rush, levin, all calling the shutdown a FAILURE for repubs and "obama got 100% of what he wanted"

They're throwing him under the bus now.  Still, he has to own it.  Keep his name on it.  Cause in 2 years, the sting will pass and he'll want to own it again, bragging about it as the only 2016er that really gave enough of a shit to do something.  Disowning it now... I hope getbiggers remember... and in 1-2 years, when debates begin, and someone says "Remember when cruz had the balls to lead that shutdown (which is accurate), we will have to remind ourselves "No, he made it very clear afterwards, it wasn't a ted cruz thing, it was a congress thing".

I still think he's the 2016 guy.  But he SHOULD be saying yes, it's his baby.  Cause it is!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Gonuclear on October 20, 2013, 03:55:12 PM
It's cracking me up that our resident right wingers think a batshit crazy teabagger from Texas has any chance on a national ticket

You guys pass up viable candidates like Christie and go for the absolute craziest morons - Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, etc..

Great, isn't it?   They hate Christie, and he is probably their strongest candidate right now.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2013, 02:49:15 PM
Upsetting Republicans and Democrats?  I'm starting to like this guy.   :)

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz blasts 'party bosses' in homecoming rally
Updated 10/22/2013 at 1:48pm

(CNN) – Sen. Ted Cruz was greeted by a screaming crowd of supporters and cheers of "Thank you Ted!" and "Welcome Home!" Monday night in Texas.

The freshman senator said he was happy to be back home in Houston, and wasn't afraid to be honest about his feelings on Washington.

"It is terrific to be back in America," said Cruz as supporters waved homemade signs promoting "#MakeDCListen," a hashtag that was a prominent part of Cruz's 21-hour speech on the Senate floor in late September.

In the opinion of many on Capitol Hill, Democrats and Republicans, that speech was the kick-off of an irresponsible and destructive campaign to defund Obamacare at the risk of all else.

With the White House and Congress unable to settle their budgetary differences, the federal government was partially shut down for more than two weeks, and came very close to running out of money to pay its bills.

Cruz's colleagues in the Senate didn't stay quiet. "It was a fool's errand to start with. It was never going to succeed," Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."

On CBS's "Face the Nation," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said, "Shutting down the government, in my view, is not conservative policy."

Back in Texas, Cruz was quick to admit that he had made some enemies when he told the crowd a story about his two young daughters.

Catherine had announced at a family outing that she wanted to grow up to work in the Senate "like daddy." However, Cruz's other daughter, Caroline, immediately dismissed that as "boring." She also pointed out the fact that "by then daddy will be dead anyways."

Cruz went on to say, "I kind of wondered if Caroline had been talking to Republican leadership in Washington, if she knew something I didn't know."

If this isn't evidence enough that Cruz isn't too concerned with the "voices in Washington," when asked whether he was hoping to repair his relationships with Republican leaders, Cruz laughed. "I don't work for the party bosses in Washington. I work for 26 million Texans."

Ted Cruz won't rule out another shutdown, aide tells CNN

Cruz had some fun with the problems plaguing HealthCare.gov as well, saying, "the Nigerian e-mail scammers" had been hired to run the site.

The senator also had some harsh words, laying the blame for "a lousy deal" squarely at the feet of the Senate Republicans who didn't "unite with House Republicans."

The deal that ended the shutdown and raised the debt ceiling was passed with 87 House Republicans joining 197 Democrats to vote 'Yea' and 144 Republicans voting 'Nay.'

"We didn't ultimately win this battle," said Cruz. "But listen, no one in this room started this fight thinking it would be easy. We all knew that if we took on the Washington establishment the establishment would fight back."

Cruz assured the crowd that the past two months had seen enormous progress and that if they "follow the model" of grass-roots campaigns and citizen engagement they would "change the debate" in Washington.

Movements such as the constituent support of Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul's filibuster on drones, and the backlash against gun control legislation after the shooting in Newtown, Cruz said, were evidence of effective campaigns Democrats and the White House were forced to listen to.

Cruz said the message of the rally was clear: Texans and the American people don't want Obamacare and they're fed up with Congress.

But for all his talk of blowing off the party bosses, Cruz acknowledged that success for the Republicans lay with a unified message.

"I'm hopeful, with a little bit of time and reflection, that Senate Republicans will decide to come together again," Cruz said.

"I would love to see Republican unity, to see all of us stand together against this train wreck that is Obamacare and with the American people."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/21/republican-sen-ted-cruz-blasts-party-bosses-in-homecoming-rally/?hpt=hp_t3
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Mr. MB on October 22, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
I think if the GOP just relaxes and lets the cards play out the Dems will implode in 2014 then 2016 will be wide open. The open D Senate seats favor a R change due to demographics. The House should stay about the same if not a bigger GOP gain due to Obamacare failing shortly. This give Cruz time to sharpen his Spanish and start traveling abroad exposing the less than lackluster tenure of Secretary Clinton. Europe is going conservative again and they will welcome Cruz. He needs (a good liberal word of choice) gravitas.
H Clinton is like the Kardashians...famous for being famous. She did squat while a Senator and squat while Sec of State.

I am a secular Libertarian who votes mostly Republican while holding my nose. If Cruz brings his religion into the forefront like his Pastor father is urging him to do....I punt.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
I think if the GOP just relaxes and lets the cards play out the Dems will implode in 2014 then 2016 will be wide open. The open D Senate seats favor a R change due to demographics. The House should stay about the same if not a bigger GOP gain due to Obamacare failing shortly. This give Cruz time to sharpen his Spanish and start traveling abroad exposing the less than lackluster tenure of Secretary Clinton. Europe is going conservative again and they will welcome Cruz. He needs (a good liberal word of choice) gravitas.
H Clinton is like the Kardashians...famous for being famous. She did squat while a Senator and squat while Sec of State.

I am a secular Libertarian who votes mostly Republican while holding my nose. If Cruz brings his religion into the forefront like his Pastor father is urging him to do....I punt.

Interesting take.  Never thought about Hillary being famous for being famous, but there is some truth to that. 

Also agree with your comments about what Cruz needs to do to become viable. 

Regarding religion, he has to start wearing it on his sleeve.  They all do when they're running.  Obama did it.  But that doesn't bother me, unless they are disingenuous. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2013, 03:47:37 PM
It's going to be fun watching the teabaggers be utterly dumbfounded AGAIN when the country rejects their idiotic candidates

It's always funny how they are baffled as to why the majority of the country wants nothing to do with these people

If Ron Paul can't get any national traction then Ted Cruz certainly isn't going to do any better
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2013, 03:58:37 PM
Upsetting Republicans and Democrats?  I'm starting to like this guy.   :)

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz blasts 'party bosses' in homecoming rally
Updated 10/22/2013 at 1:48pm

(CNN) – Sen. Ted Cruz was greeted by a screaming crowd of supporters and cheers of "Thank you Ted!" and "Welcome Home!" Monday night in Texas.

The freshman senator said he was happy to be back home in Houston, and wasn't afraid to be honest about his feelings on Washington.

"It is terrific to be back in America," said Cruz as supporters waved homemade signs promoting "#MakeDCListen," a hashtag that was a prominent part of Cruz's 21-hour speech on the Senate floor in late September.

In the opinion of many on Capitol Hill, Democrats and Republicans, that speech was the kick-off of an irresponsible and destructive campaign to defund Obamacare at the risk of all else.

With the White House and Congress unable to settle their budgetary differences, the federal government was partially shut down for more than two weeks, and came very close to running out of money to pay its bills.

Cruz's colleagues in the Senate didn't stay quiet. "It was a fool's errand to start with. It was never going to succeed," Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."

On CBS's "Face the Nation," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, said, "Shutting down the government, in my view, is not conservative policy."

Back in Texas, Cruz was quick to admit that he had made some enemies when he told the crowd a story about his two young daughters.

Catherine had announced at a family outing that she wanted to grow up to work in the Senate "like daddy." However, Cruz's other daughter, Caroline, immediately dismissed that as "boring." She also pointed out the fact that "by then daddy will be dead anyways."

Cruz went on to say, "I kind of wondered if Caroline had been talking to Republican leadership in Washington, if she knew something I didn't know."

If this isn't evidence enough that Cruz isn't too concerned with the "voices in Washington," when asked whether he was hoping to repair his relationships with Republican leaders, Cruz laughed. "I don't work for the party bosses in Washington. I work for 26 million Texans."

Ted Cruz won't rule out another shutdown, aide tells CNN

Cruz had some fun with the problems plaguing HealthCare.gov as well, saying, "the Nigerian e-mail scammers" had been hired to run the site.

The senator also had some harsh words, laying the blame for "a lousy deal" squarely at the feet of the Senate Republicans who didn't "unite with House Republicans."

The deal that ended the shutdown and raised the debt ceiling was passed with 87 House Republicans joining 197 Democrats to vote 'Yea' and 144 Republicans voting 'Nay.'

"We didn't ultimately win this battle," said Cruz. "But listen, no one in this room started this fight thinking it would be easy. We all knew that if we took on the Washington establishment the establishment would fight back."

Cruz assured the crowd that the past two months had seen enormous progress and that if they "follow the model" of grass-roots campaigns and citizen engagement they would "change the debate" in Washington.

Movements such as the constituent support of Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul's filibuster on drones, and the backlash against gun control legislation after the shooting in Newtown, Cruz said, were evidence of effective campaigns Democrats and the White House were forced to listen to.

Cruz said the message of the rally was clear: Texans and the American people don't want Obamacare and they're fed up with Congress.

But for all his talk of blowing off the party bosses, Cruz acknowledged that success for the Republicans lay with a unified message.

"I'm hopeful, with a little bit of time and reflection, that Senate Republicans will decide to come together again," Cruz said.

"I would love to see Republican unity, to see all of us stand together against this train wreck that is Obamacare and with the American people."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/21/republican-sen-ted-cruz-blasts-party-bosses-in-homecoming-rally/?hpt=hp_t3


yeah, turning off people in both Republican and Democratic parties is a brilliant strategy for winning a national election

at least he admits he and his party caused the last shutdown.....right Bum?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2013, 06:06:03 PM
Upsetting Republicans and Democrats?  I'm starting to like this guy.   :)

I'd prefer the repubs choose a candidate that ALL republicans like.

In 2008, they chose a candidate that half the repubs couldn't stand.  They lost.
In 2012, they chose a candidate that half the repubs couldn't stand.  They lost.

Maybe in 2016, the repubs should choose a candidate that most of the people in the party like. 

Seriously, i CANNOT understand repubs continually working so hard to find a candidate with the highest mountain to climb to win the nomination.  It's like "Oh, this guy wrote a gun bill AND supported abortion, let's run him!" and the base stays home.   It's like they just see some cool Hollywood storyline of "Oh, this dude overcame the greatest odds to win!"  -  That's NOT how it works.  Run a smart candidate that doesn't cause 20% of the party to hold their noses and stay home on election day.  Or, enjoy a Hilary presidency.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Mr. MB on October 22, 2013, 07:59:54 PM
Lots of truth in above. Dems can call each other scumbags like Kennedy and Johnson  and Obama and Hillary....then they end up snuggling under the sheets. The GOP ends up eating their own children. The only way Regan got elected was thru conservatives and the Regan Democrats. 3 million Republicans stayed home last election. Half thought of Romney as a RINO and the evangelicals thought the Morman was the devil. They got Obama, 7 trillian in addded debt, staggering unemployment, loss of face on the foriegn front, rise of Moslem Brotherhood, class warefare, degredation of our military, OBAMACARE....need I go on? Thanks asshole Republicans.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 22, 2013, 08:44:47 PM
Lots of truth in above. Dems can call each other scumbags like Kennedy and Johnson  and Obama and Hillary....then they end up snuggling under the sheets. The GOP ends up eating their own children. The only way Regan got elected was thru conservatives and the Regan Democrats. 3 million Republicans stayed home last election. Half thought of Romney as a RINO and the evangelicals thought the Morman was the devil. They got Obama, 7 trillian in addded debt, staggering unemployment, loss of face on the foriegn front, rise of Moslem Brotherhood, class warefare, degredation of our military, OBAMACARE....need I go on? Thanks asshole Republicans.

Reagan couldn't get through the primaries today

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 23, 2013, 12:42:31 AM
Reagan couldn't get through the primaries today



Regan use to fancy sucking the dick before he was governor.  That's why his first wife left him.  Nancy was all about the convenience.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Gonuclear on October 23, 2013, 02:46:20 AM
Regan use to fancy sucking the dick before he was governor.  That's why his first wife left him.  Nancy was all about the convenience.

Thanks for elevating the discussion.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 23, 2013, 11:33:16 AM
Lots of truth in above. Dems can call each other scumbags like Kennedy and Johnson  and Obama and Hillary....then they end up snuggling under the sheets. The GOP ends up eating their own children.

tough to argue this.  Plus, if you had to list 5 differences between the hilary and obama 2008 platforms/positions, well, they were pretty close.

Now, could we list differences between Ron paul, Mitt, Huck, mccain?  Oh yes - worlds apart on a lot of issues.   This is the problem?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 04:03:34 PM
McCain on Cruz in 2016
Posted by
CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) - Asked Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" whether Sen. Ted Cruz would be an "attractive" presidential candidate in 2016, Sen. John McCain said he couldn't predict the future but said the Texas Republican will be "very attractive to many" in Cruz's conservative base.

"The question is," he added, "will our party be able to field a winning presidential candidate and vice president so that we can win the election rather than – unfortunately, the record of the last couple has not been what we want it to be.

"I can say that from a personal standpoint," the 2008 Republican presidential nominee told CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger.

Cruz hasn't said he plans to run in the next presidential cycle, but his multiple trips to early primary and caucus states - coupled with his meteoric rise among conservatives - has fueled speculation that he may be interested in a White House bid.

Asked about his plans in an interview with CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash, Cruz said he's focused "entirely" on his job in the U.S. Senate.

He said the reason he has traveled to early voting states is because he's trying to "make the case to the American people."

"You don't get 2 million people signing a national petition without going directly to the people," he said, referring to the "Don't Fund Obamacare" website.

The Republican attended a GOP fundraiser in New Hampshire in August, gave the keynote address at a GOP dinner in South Carolina in May and visited Iowa twice this summer for separate events. He returns to the Hawkeye State for a third time this week to speak at a dinner in Des Moines and to be a guest at Rep. Steve King's annual Col. Bud Day Pheasant Hunt.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/20/mccain-on-cruz-in-2016/?iref=obinsite
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on October 28, 2013, 04:31:58 PM
Charles Krauthammer thinks the 2016 GOP nominee will come out of the governorships with Christie, Scott Walker and Susanna Martinez being the front runners.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
The more I listen to whiny libs complain about Cruz, the more I like him. He scares the shit out if them. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 04:37:15 PM
Martinez will be an interesting candidate.  Liked her convention speech a lot.  Want to see what kind of job she has done as governor and how she would plan to lead the country.  Assuming she's running.  
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on October 28, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
Martinez will be an interesting candidate.  Liked her convention speech a lot.  Want to see what kind of job she has done as governor and how she would plan to lead the country.  Assuming she's running.  

She's been way out on the fringe of GOP nominee talk for a while but I seen that same speech and others and I agree, I think she could be a potential force.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 04:40:18 PM
She's been way out on the fringe of GOP nominee talk for a while but I seen that same speech and others and I agree, I think she could be a potential force.

Yeah. She was rumored to be on the VP list, but not sure if that came from Romney or the talking heads. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 28, 2013, 04:45:13 PM
The more I listen to whiny libs complain about Cruz, the more I like him. He scares the shit out if them. 

Dems love Cruz

Its Repubs who are scared of him and hate him
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 28, 2013, 04:46:19 PM
Charles Krauthammer thinks the 2016 GOP nominee will come out of the governorships with Christie, Scott Walker and Susanna Martinez being the front runners.

I also think a Governor is the likely nomineee
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 04:53:37 PM
Dems love Cruz

Its Repubs who are scared of him and hate him

Bullshit.  Your boy Ed Shultz and EVERY lib I have spoken to about him just loses it when his name comes up. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 28, 2013, 04:56:42 PM
I'll vote for Ted Cruz in the GOP primary just like I did for Santorum with hopes of making him the candidate and assuring Hillary or whatever Democrat is opposing him is the next POTUS.  Texas is fast turning purple.  If it's Hillary vs Cruz, Texas is in play.  At a minimum.  You morons had better get it together, because once Dem's start winning Texas your party is finished at the Presidential level. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2013, 04:57:20 PM
Bullshit.  Your boy Ed Shultz and EVERY lib I have spoken to about him just loses it when his name comes up. 

Truth.  You always know who the biggest threat is, based on the reaction liberals have.  He is the new liberal boogyman.  

Check out Alinsky/Obama's rules.  They will be demonizing Cruz, just like they did with Romney.  The opposition research teams are probably hard at work.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 05:03:08 PM
I'll vote for Ted Cruz in the GOP primary just like I did for Santorum with hopes of making him the candidate and assuring Hillary or whatever Democrat is opposing him is the next POTUS.  Texas is fast turning purple.  If it's Hillary vs Cruz, Texas is in play.  At a minimum.  You morons had better get it together, because once Dem's start winning Texas your party is finished at the Presidential level. 

Perfect lead in to my point. If Cruz is sooooo bad, then why wouldnt you half-wits want him to win the nomination and ensure victory?   Like Beach said, as soon as your type gets scared they have to demonize because they have zero ability to win on REAL issues.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 28, 2013, 05:05:19 PM
Perfect lead in to my point. If Cruz is sooooo bad, then why wouldnt you half-wits want him to win the nomination and ensure victory?   Like Beach said, as soon as your type gets scared they have to demonize because they have zero ability to win on REAL issues.

I want him on the ticket.  I am a card carrying Liberal.  He puts Texas in play in 2016.  I'll put Cruz 2016 signs on my lawn and post pics here.  Please, if there is a GOD let Ted Cruz be the GOP nominee!!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 05:08:55 PM
I want him on the ticket.  I am a card carrying Liberal.  He puts Texas in play in 2016.  I'll put Cruz 2016 signs on my lawn and post pics here.  Please, if there is a GOD let Ted Cruz be the GOP nominee!!

He would win Texas in a landslide.  Go ahead and support him.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 28, 2013, 05:11:34 PM
Bullshit.  Your boy Ed Shultz and EVERY lib I have spoken to about him just loses it when his name comes up. 

LOL @ Shultz being my boy when I'ever never even seen his show.

Dems love Cruz but just not for the same reason that you love him
I assumed that was obvious but once again I've overestimated the intelligence of a right winger on this board.   If you are unaware or ignorant of the fact that many Repubs hate and fear Cruz and more importantly the reason why,  I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 05:14:12 PM
LOL @ Shultz being my boy when I'ever never even seen his show.

Dems love Cruz but just not for the same reason that you love him
I assumed that was obvious but once again I've overestimated the intelligence of a right winger on this board.   If you are unaware or ignorant of the fact that many Repubs hate and fear Cruz and more importantly the reason why,  I won't waste my time trying to explain it to you.

O know exactly why the repubs hate him and I certainlt dont need any explanation from you.  He scares the idiot repub establishment more than your liberal panty wastes.  And I love it. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on October 28, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
He would win Texas in a landslide.  Go ahead and support him.

After 3 more years of this disastrous presidency, he would win by 20 points, easily.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 05:27:25 PM
After 3 more years of this disastrous presidency, he would win by 20 points, easily.

I think so too.  I love that he is moving the repubs farther to the right. And I dont care that people think they cant win if they do.  The REAL problem in the last two elections was repub candidates that didnt get the party fired up. Cruz can do this.  Infortunately he is going to have both sides smearing him.  Like Ron Paul did. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 28, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
O know exactly why the repubs hate him and I certainlt dont need any explanation from you.  He scares the idiot repub establishment more than your liberal panty wastes.  And I love it. 

so you at least know that Repubs hate him but do you know WHY

because they know he is un-electable in a national election and all he does is harm the party as whole

which is the reason why Dems love him

You idiots haven't learned anything from watching Ron Paul crash and burn in the last two elections in spite of raising a ton of money
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 28, 2013, 06:18:16 PM
so you at least know that Repubs hate him but do you know WHY

because they know he is un-electable in a national election and all he does is harm the party as whole

which is the reason why Dems love him

You idiots haven't learned anything from watching Ron Paul crash and burn in the last two elections in spite of raising a ton of money

Nope. The real reason they hate him is because he calls them out on bullshit and is forcing their hand. The turnout in 12 was pathetic and someone like him can re-energize the true base of the party and it scares the hacks like Graham, boehner, etc. shitless.

The establishment in DC on both sides have no interest in giving up their power to someone like him. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 28, 2013, 06:21:23 PM
Nope. The real reason they hate him is because he calls them out on bullshit and is forcing their hand. The turnout in 12 was pathetic and someone like him can re-energize the true base of the party and it scares the hacks like Graham, boehner, etc. shitless.

The establishment in DC on both sides have no interest in giving up their power to someone like him. 

I've heard this argument before

you believe that some huge amount of Republican voters stayed home because they didn't get candidate that was far enough to the right and that once you get a Cruz or Paul on that national ticket that this secret hoard of Repubs will show up and take the day

We'll ignore for the moment all he swing voters you will lose and all the moderate Repubs that will choose to stay home

Do I have your basic belief correct?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 28, 2013, 06:23:48 PM
I've heard this argument before

you believe that some huge amount of Republican voters stayed home because they didn't get candidate that was far enough to the right and that once you get a Cruz or Paul on that national ticket that this secret hoard of Repubs will show up and take the day

We'll ignore for the moment all he swing voters you will lose and all the moderate Repubs that will choose to stay home

Do I have your basic belief correct?

BINGO!!  Yes, you've summed it up correctly. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 28, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
Martinez will be an interesting candidate.  Liked her convention speech a lot.  Want to see what kind of job she has done as governor and how she would plan to lead the country.  Assuming she's running. 

Disagree.  She treated guns as props during this speech, she was too eager to please.  Zero gravitas.  All cheerleading and overacting.

Seriously, she's 4 years away from the serious sophistication that we see with a Jeb, a christie even.  You know, that mature and serious nature.  She kept saying lines like "you know, my guns, that I keep by my bedside, my rifle, am I right everyone?"

Sorry, that kind of over the top obnoxiousness with the gun talk is obvious weak pandering.  She'll be an excellent candidate once she stops being that fake cheeked, too eager to please pandering type like Rubio.

Until then, let those with the SERIOUS look on their face run the party - jeb, jindal, rand, christie, thune, huntsmann, etc.  You know what I"m talking about - romney with the fake smile, rubio with the fake smile, martinez - I just think in a debate against hilary and her GRAVITAS, they'll look SOFT.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on October 29, 2013, 04:20:43 PM
I've heard this argument before

you believe that some huge amount of Republican voters stayed home because they didn't get candidate that was far enough to the right and that once you get a Cruz or Paul on that national ticket that this secret hoard of Repubs will show up and take the day

We'll ignore for the moment all he swing voters you will lose and all the moderate Repubs that will choose to stay home

Do I have your basic belief correct?

In part.  I dont think the number of swing voters is even remotely accurate. The vast majority of them just dont want to disclose their views or voting, imo.  I could be wrong but I often act as one to get peoples real views on issues. 

And I really dont care if the RINO's, I dont think there are many moderate repubs anyway, on.  They are the real problem with the party anyway. 

I just really think its time for a strong third party. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
Disagree.  She treated guns as props during this speech, she was too eager to please.  Zero gravitas.  All cheerleading and overacting.

Seriously, she's 4 years away from the serious sophistication that we see with a Jeb, a christie even.  You know, that mature and serious nature.  She kept saying lines like "you know, my guns, that I keep by my bedside, my rifle, am I right everyone?"

Sorry, that kind of over the top obnoxiousness with the gun talk is obvious weak pandering.  She'll be an excellent candidate once she stops being that fake cheeked, too eager to please pandering type like Rubio.

Until then, let those with the SERIOUS look on their face run the party - jeb, jindal, rand, christie, thune, huntsmann, etc.  You know what I"m talking about - romney with the fake smile, rubio with the fake smile, martinez - I just think in a debate against hilary and her GRAVITAS, they'll look SOFT.

Yes, yes, and Huntsman was going to be the Republican nominee, Crist was going to win the Senate, Bachman for president, etc., etc. 

Don't quit your day job.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2013, 10:04:18 AM
Fear is in the air.  Can you smell it? 

Reid: Cruz 2016 nomination would destroy GOP
Posted by
CNN Political Unit

Washington (CNN) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says in some ways, he hopes Ted Cruz becomes the Republican presidential nominee in 2016.

"If I didn't care so much about our country, I would hope he would get the Republican nomination for president, because that would mean the end of the Republican Party," the Nevada Democrat said about the freshman senator from Texas on Wednesday night in an interview on MSNBC.

Cruz, a favorite of tea party supporters and other grassroots activists, was a ringleader among a group of conservative lawmakers who tied their push to defund or dismantle Obamacare with the funding of the federal government. Their standoff with congressional Democrats and the White House resulted in this month's 16-day partial shutdown of the federal government.

Even though polling indicates the standoff hurt the GOP's image more than the Democrats', Reid said in an interview with MSNBC host Rachel Maddow that he thought the shutdown will help Cruz with fundraising.

"With Ted Cruz, I am sure this will help him raise more money."

Reid, the top Democrat in the Senate, said that Cruz "stands for everything America doesn't."

Cruz is considered a possible contender for the 2016 GOP nomination. Last week he made his third trip this year to Iowa, and next week he heads back to South Carolina, two crucial early voting states in the presidential primary and caucus calendar.

Asked about his political plans in an interview with CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash after the end of the government shutdown, Cruz said he's focused "entirely" on his job in the U.S. Senate. He said the reason he has traveled to early voting states is because he's trying to "make the case to the American people."

As for reports that Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma earlier this week called Reid an a–hole, the Senate Majority Leader said, "I'm sure he didn't mean it," adding that, "We had a meeting. It's all over with."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/31/reid-cruz-2016-nomination-would-destroy-gop/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 31, 2013, 10:48:49 AM
it would be very entertaining TV to watch Cruz become the nominee.

SUCH an extreme contrast to whatever the dems run.

Voters would have to CHOOSE and it'd be very clear - the positions on gun control, amnesty, obamacare, gay marriage, etc - It wouldn't be like 2008 and 2012 when you could say "Well yeah, but 5 years ago, mccain/romney agreed..." and it sure wouldn't be some repub candidate trying to convince base voters how he is severely conservative. 

I would love to see it.  Granted, I'd prefer it to be Rand, since Cruz has kinda a goober look to him, and yes, looks matter bigtime as president.  I'd rather see a Rand or Perry because some people will just choose the dude that LOOKS like president.  Cruz just doesn't look like a president... sorry, it also screws kuscinish, jindal, and many others - you can't look like a goober, sorry.  it's the Goober Rule.

1. goober
basically a goober is just a kindhearted, rather oblivious goofball. it's term of endearment really. it comes from the ancient scottish verb "to goub", which has to do with doing a dance and smiling sheepishly while doing so, exposing the goubs in one's teeth.
"That John is such a goober," said Jane as John vector-danced* his Junior Prom away.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on November 25, 2013, 06:31:19 PM
Ted Cruz’s Aggressive Campaigning Could Hurt Him With Crucial Iowa Voters
Ben JacobsBy Ben Jacobs
November 25th 2013

After leading the shutdown and making headlines for months, the senator is aggressively campaigning in Iowa. But will voters burn out on him before the crucial caucus vote?
Eventually, even the most gleeful child learns that there is such a thing as too much ice cream when the carton is empty and all that’s left is the toothache. Might conservative Iowa Republicans, a demographic that plays an outsize role in the presidential nominating process, ever feel the same way about Ted Cruz?

The Texas senator has been in office for less than a year and has already become a national figure and a frontrunner not just in the 2016 Iowa caucuses but eventually to receive the GOP nomination as well. Indeed, according to prominent Iowa conservative leader Bob Vander Plaats, Cruz would win the Iowa caucuses “going away” if they were held today. His problem is that they still are two years away, plenty of time for even those conservatives most excited by Cruz to tire of the Texas senator.

Cruz’s 21-hour anti-Obamacare speech on the Senate floor on the eve of October’s government shutdown established him as a national figure, but his star had been rising before that. It was Cruz’s performance in the 2012 Texas Senate primary, when he won as an underdog Tea Party candidate, that gained him prominence in the Republican Party. Cruz combined Hispanic heritage (his father was born in Cuba) with unimpeachable conservative credentials and a sterling legal record as Texas’s solicitor general, arguing nine cases before the Supreme Court and drawing comparisons to a fellow Harvard Law graduate, Barack Obama.

Campaigning aggressively at this stage in the election cycle would expose any political weaknesses far earlier than they might otherwise.
The Obama comparisons ended once Cruz took office. As a junior senator, Cruz has aggressively courted national media coverage to promote his causes, a strategy counter to the one President Obama used when he first entered Congress. According to Tommy Vietor, a former Obama Senate press aide who later worked for Obama both on his 2008 campaign and in the White House, the then-Illinois senator “basically declined every national press interview for nine months once he took office.” It was the same approach taken by Hillary Clinton when she was elected in 2000: “Keep your head down, focus on your work, and don’t look like you’re a show horse.”

In Vietor’s opinion, “when you’re an elected official and out doing every possible interview and on cable news, it diminishes you and makes people wonder why you aren’t spending more time doing your actual job.” As senator, Obama also took pains to avoid the appearance of even considering a presidential campaign and only visited Iowa twice before beginning his presidential campaign, both times while campaigning for fellow Democrats in the runup to the 2006 midterm elections.

By contrast, some grassroots Iowa Republicans say Cruz has hit just the right notes. Jamie Johnson, a member of the Republican Party of Iowa’s state central committee, said Cruz’s approach to the Hawkeye State has been “just right.” He noted that the Texas senator has made three trips to Iowa, each for a high-profile event, and that he likely won’t be back in the Midwest until next spring. Craig Robinson, a former party operative and editor of the Iowa Republican, voiced a bit more skepticism. While he acknowledged that Cruz has been in the state “a lot,” his criticism is not so much that the Texas senator is spending too much time in Iowa but that he has been concentrating on the wrong parts of the state. Cruz has been “been Des Moines-focused,” Robinson said. “It would be a bigger deal to me if he went to Dubuque or Davenport. That would be more interesting, rather than repeating” his trips to metro Des Moines.

As a presidential hopeful on the right of the Republican Party, Cruz has far more reason to visit Iowa in an effort to attract publicity than most of his potential competitors. After all, the past two winners of the Iowa caucuses, Rick Santorum in 2012 and Mike Huckabee in 2008, might run in 2016, along with a number of other conservatives with strong links to the state, such as Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) or Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX), another former presidential candidate. Cruz is appealing to a specific slice of Iowa caucusgoers, committed conservatives who are far more familiar with his competitors. As one observer pointed out, he has “more ground to make up.”

The risk for Cruz with Iowa voters is that campaigning aggressively at this stage in the election cycle would expose any political weaknesses far earlier than they might be otherwise. Doug Gross, who was the Republican nominee for governor in 2002 and is associated with the pro-business, establishment wing of the GOP, said the Texas senator is exposing his “feet of clay.” Gross said he thought Cruz performed poorly on his most recent visit to the state in October, when he spoke at the Republican Party of Iowa’s Ronald Reagan dinner in Des Moines. In Gross’s opinion, Cruz gave “a 45-minute self-indulgent rant” that hurt him with Iowa Republicans and “was better suited for D.C.” than a friendly part of the Midwest, where “neighbors know neighbors.”

Of course, as Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier emphasized, his speaking schedule isn’t just about Iowa. “The senator accepts event invitations and schedules interviews that offer the best platform for him to share his priorities and make the argument for the policies he is pursuing in the interests of the Texans he represents,” she said. She noted that Cruz’s camp was “mindful” of the risk of overexposure but still “pleased that his message has been able to resonate largely through the work he has done in his role as a senator—in committee hearings, statements on the floor, etc. Of course, media interviews are a part of getting that message out, too.”

The problem for most politicians is that they are never “new” for long. They all eventually become known quantities. While Vietor pointed out that Cruz has “completely diluted his sort of freshness factor and everything he says is completely predictable,” that’s the case with almost every public figure who has stuck around in politics. The Texas senator was always going to lose his initial bloom after the wave of publicity surrounding his 21-hour speech and his leadership role during the government shutdown. The question now is whether Cruz and his team can deliver a message that resonates and maintain an appeal with Hawkeye State voters who no longer see him as the exciting new guy.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/25/ted-cruz-s-aggressive-campaigning-could-hurt-him-with-crucial-iowa-voters.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 25, 2013, 08:50:03 PM
Ted Cruz’s Aggressive Campaigning Could Hurt Him With Crucial Iowa Voters
Ben JacobsBy Ben Jacobs

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/11/25/ted-cruz-s-aggressive-campaigning-could-hurt-him-with-crucial-iowa-voters.html

Sorry, the Daily Beast is liberal drivel.  I don't consider them a credible source.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on November 26, 2013, 09:31:18 AM
Fear is in the air.  Can you smell it? 

Reid: Cruz 2016 nomination would destroy GOP
Posted by
CNN Political Unit

Washington (CNN) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says in some ways, he hopes Ted Cruz becomes the Republican presidential nominee in 2016.

"If I didn't care so much about our country, I would hope he would get the Republican nomination for president, because that would mean the end of the Republican Party," the Nevada Democrat said about the freshman senator from Texas on Wednesday night in an interview on MSNBC.

Cruz, a favorite of tea party supporters and other grassroots activists, was a ringleader among a group of conservative lawmakers who tied their push to defund or dismantle Obamacare with the funding of the federal government. Their standoff with congressional Democrats and the White House resulted in this month's 16-day partial shutdown of the federal government.

Even though polling indicates the standoff hurt the GOP's image more than the Democrats', Reid said in an interview with MSNBC host Rachel Maddow that he thought the shutdown will help Cruz with fundraising.

"With Ted Cruz, I am sure this will help him raise more money."

Reid, the top Democrat in the Senate, said that Cruz "stands for everything America doesn't."

Cruz is considered a possible contender for the 2016 GOP nomination. Last week he made his third trip this year to Iowa, and next week he heads back to South Carolina, two crucial early voting states in the presidential primary and caucus calendar.

Asked about his political plans in an interview with CNN Chief Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash after the end of the government shutdown, Cruz said he's focused "entirely" on his job in the U.S. Senate. He said the reason he has traveled to early voting states is because he's trying to "make the case to the American people."

As for reports that Republican Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma earlier this week called Reid an a–hole, the Senate Majority Leader said, "I'm sure he didn't mean it," adding that, "We had a meeting. It's all over with."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/31/reid-cruz-2016-nomination-would-destroy-gop/

yes, it smells like the Republican Party is fearful that Ted Cruz and his fellow teabaggers will cause them to lose the POTUS and maybe even more seats in the House and Senate
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2013, 10:03:05 AM
yes, it smells like the Republican Party is fearful that Ted Cruz and his fellow teabaggers will cause them to lose the POTUS and maybe even more seats in the House and Senate

FOX & the repubs have trashed Cruz in recent months.

They're prefer another "establishment" candidate of the moderate persuasion that will "win swing voters".

President Romney & President mcCain approved!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on November 26, 2013, 10:08:36 AM
Sorry, the Daily Beast is liberal drivel.  I don't consider them a credible source.

Quote
Mitt Romney made yet another gaffe on Thursday when he admitted to reporters that he had met with MI6 head Sir John Sawers. The meeting with the chief of Britain’s intelligence agency was not on Romney’s public schedule, but then he told the press, “I appreciated the insights and perspectives of the leaders of the government here and opposition here as well as the head of MI6 as we discussed Syria and the hope for a more peaceful future for that country.” The Foreign and Commonwealth Office later commented, “Sir John Sawers meets many people, but we don’t give a running commentary on any of these private meetings.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/07/26/romney-blabs-about-mi6-meeting.html

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Here's the article... Some reasons are trivial, others serious:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/03/16-reasons-why-hillary-clinton-will-win-2016.html



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Dick Cheney Defends his Legacy in New Book 'In My Time'

hahahahahahahahahahhaha

www.thedailybeast.com/.../dick-cheney-defends-his-legacy-in-new-... - CachedYou +1'd this publicly.
Aug 28, 2011 – The dark lord of American politics has a new book out, fiercely defending his legacy.


dude, really?  hahahahahha
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on November 26, 2013, 10:09:32 AM
FOX & the repubs have trashed Cruz in recent months.

They're prefer another "establishment" candidate of the moderate persuasion that will "win swing voters".

President Romney & President mcCain approved!

maybe they prefer to lose small rather than lose big
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on November 26, 2013, 12:21:25 PM
FOX & the repubs have trashed Cruz in recent months.

They're prefer another "establishment" candidate of the moderate persuasion that will "win swing voters".

President Romney & President mcCain approved!
wait !!!!
Fox trashed a republican?
stop the presses
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
wait !!!!
Fox trashed a republican?
stop the presses

BIG TIME.

Rush Limbaugh Tears Into Fox News For Ted Cruz Criticism (AUDIO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/25/rush-limbaugh-fox-news-ted-cruz_n_3990639.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 26, 2013, 03:57:21 PM
Cruz causes the repub establishment and libtards to wet their panties equally.  Good enough for me. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on November 26, 2013, 04:39:12 PM
Cruz causes the repub establishment and libtards to wet their panties equally.  Good enough for me. 

Yep.  I agree.  At a minimum, that makes him an intriguing candidate. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on November 26, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
Cruz causes the repub establishment and libtards to wet their panties equally.  Good enough for me. 

no he doesn't

Dems are praying to Satan that Repubs are dumb enough to nominate Cruz

We would LOVE it

If you just think about your statement for a second you'll see how illogical it is
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
Repubs have an either/or problem.   

EITHER they choose a moderate - Romney, mccain (and next Christie) - and their base doesn't donate or vote - they lose.

The other option, a far-right candidate like Cruz, will motivate the base, BUT if he has the "repub establishment" pissing their pants, that's not a good thing - he'll need their support and money and votes.

I'd say, give it a try.  It might work, I hope so.  But if not... repubs needs to SERIOUSLY unite behind some message, like the dems have.  Or they'll never win the white house again.  The last time the repubs easily won a prez election?  1988.  Think about that.  92, loss.  96, bad loss.  2000 and 2004, they barely scraped by.  2008 and 2016, they were easily whooped. 

If the FL recount and OH oddities didn't happen, we would be talking about repubs losing the LAST SIX elections.  Sure, idiots will say "yeah, but we sitll won!".   You won 00 and 04 by luck, admit it.  On the other hand, 2008 and 2012 were won by a party with a united message.

until the repubs have a united message, I dunno...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on November 26, 2013, 07:35:06 PM
Repubs have an either/or problem.   

EITHER they choose a moderate - Romney, mccain (and next Christie) - and their base doesn't donate or vote - they lose.

The other option, a far-right candidate like Cruz, will motivate the base, BUT if he has the "repub establishment" pissing their pants, that's not a good thing - he'll need their support and money and votes.

I'd say, give it a try.  It might work, I hope so.  But if not... repubs needs to SERIOUSLY unite behind some message, like the dems have.  Or they'll never win the white house again.  The last time the repubs easily won a prez election?  1988.  Think about that.  92, loss.  96, bad loss.  2000 and 2004, they barely scraped by.  2008 and 2016, they were easily whooped. 

If the FL recount and OH oddities didn't happen, we would be talking about repubs losing the LAST SIX elections.  Sure, idiots will say "yeah, but we sitll won!".   You won 00 and 04 by luck, admit it.  On the other hand, 2008 and 2012 were won by a party with a united message.

until the repubs have a united message, I dunno...

and why do you think he would have the Repub establishment pissing their pants ?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 26, 2013, 10:58:24 PM
and why do you think he would have the Repub establishment pissing their pants ?

‘Thank You, Ted Cruz’ Ads Set to Run During Thanksgiving NFL Games


A conservative group’s ad thanking Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his efforts to defund the Affordable Care Act is set to air this week during the televised broadcast of multiple National Football League games.

The video ad, created by the Conservative Campaign Committee, praises the Texan senator for “step forward” to take on the “disastrous Obamacare scheme” by “doing everything he could to stop Obamacare before it could hurt Americans.”

The ad features video clips of MSNBC’s Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough calling Cruz a “political terrorist” and “stupid,” respectively, underscoring the CCC’s belief that Cruz “withstood the criticism” and “showed the courage of his convictions” by leading the charge to defund Obamacare.

“We the people have a simple but important message for Ted Cruz,” the ad concludes. “We say: Thank you.”

full article:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thank-you-ted-cruz-ads-set-to-run-during-thanksgiving-nfl-games/

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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 27, 2013, 07:07:21 AM
The one thing he needs to work on is knowing when to tone down pollitician mode and get more laid back and personable. You can't be in politician mode 24/7 or you aren't going to be likeable.  I watched him on jay leno and it was like he was giving a stump speech at a fundraiser. Its like dude your on jay leno, lighten up, turn off politician mode and relax and connect with regulsr people. If he is unable to do this, he will lose credibility with people and won't go anywhere.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: The Showstoppa on November 27, 2013, 08:37:13 AM
no he doesn't

Dems are praying to Satan that Repubs are dumb enough to nominate Cruz

We would LOVE it

If you just think about your statement for a second you'll see how illogical it is

Not at all.  He is moving the party back to where it belongs and the repub establishment hates that, as most are just RINO's.  obviously dems hate him.  And you can always tell who a side fears most when they gave a heartattack when their name is mentioned.  And all lubs do this with him.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 27, 2013, 08:56:26 AM
Not at all.  He is moving the party back to where it belongs and the repub establishment hates that, as most are just RINO's.  obviously dems hate him.  And you can always tell who a side fears most when they gave a heartattack when their name is mentioned.  And all lubs do this with him.

Exactly. The establishment repubs are Vichy republicans. Nothing more that democrat collaborators.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on November 27, 2013, 09:26:31 AM
‘Thank You, Ted Cruz’ Ads Set to Run During Thanksgiving NFL Games


A conservative group’s ad thanking Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) for his efforts to defund the Affordable Care Act is set to air this week during the televised broadcast of multiple National Football League games.

The video ad, created by the Conservative Campaign Committee, praises the Texan senator for “step forward” to take on the “disastrous Obamacare scheme” by “doing everything he could to stop Obamacare before it could hurt Americans.”

The ad features video clips of MSNBC’s Chris Matthews and Joe Scarborough calling Cruz a “political terrorist” and “stupid,” respectively, underscoring the CCC’s belief that Cruz “withstood the criticism” and “showed the courage of his convictions” by leading the charge to defund Obamacare.

“We the people have a simple but important message for Ted Cruz,” the ad concludes. “We say: Thank you.”

full article:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thank-you-ted-cruz-ads-set-to-run-during-thanksgiving-nfl-games/

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why did you respond to my question by not answering it ?

and why do you think he would have the Repub establishment pissing their pants ?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on November 28, 2013, 08:07:44 AM
Exactly. The establishment repubs are Vichy republicans. Nothing more that democrat collaborators.
and we thank and appreciate their support.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 28, 2013, 02:24:14 PM
why did you respond to my question by not answering it ?

and why do you think he would have the Repub establishment pissing their pants ?

cause he will do some radical shit to cut spending - military, pork, etc - and boehnner and friends love that spending.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: avxo on November 28, 2013, 05:36:41 PM
cause he will do some radical shit to cut spending - military, pork, etc - and boehnner and friends love that spending.

LOL... can you really be that naive?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: tonymctones on November 28, 2013, 05:45:26 PM
LOL... can you really be that naive?
he is trolling
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 28, 2013, 06:37:21 PM
he is trolling

no, i'm really not.

tony, we both know christie isn't going to fix the budget.  we know hilary isn't going to fix the budget.

Cruz?  I think he's just crazy enough to do it :) 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 09, 2013, 06:58:44 AM
December 7, 2013
Ted Cruz and Mike Lee being vindicated on shutdown
Thomas Lifson

 
The GOP establishment is loath to admit it, but the government shutdown is turning out to be a brilliant political chess move on the part of Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. The Obamacare disaster, fully predictable by anyone who understands the effect of incentives and the fundamental incompetence of academic theorists and left wing ideologues, has made the go-for-broke attempt to stop it an obvious profile in courage.

Just take a look at this chart from the Huffington Post, via Charlie Cook:

(http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/assets/generic%20ballot%2012%2013.jpg)

Cook, a seasoned observer, sees the polling data moving against Democrats, and wonders, "Can Democrats Recover From the Obamacare Catastrophe?" But he fails to connect the dots, and dishes some typical establishmentarian snark at Cruz and Lee.

...in August, statements started coming from some of the more exotic Republicans in the House and Senate that perhaps it was a good idea to shut down the government over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Notwithstanding warnings from House and Senate Republican leaders and experienced (and wiser) members that such an effort would be a disaster for the party, the Republicans in the "kamikaze caucus" barreled ahead, over the cliff, shutting down the government.
 
 They were stupid, in Cook's eyes, because the polls turned against the GOP, as the media launched its predictable campaign blaming it for the ginned-up inconveniences (remember fencing off the WW II memorial?). What Cook doesn't (or refuses) to see is that the turning of polls against the Democrats post-healthcare.gov is not a random, chance occurrence, but rather predictable to anyone who looks two or three moves ahead on the chessboard.

The budget and debt limit fights lie ahead. Cruz and Lee have laid out the path for us. The GOP can now say that that because the Democrats have shown they are willing to shut down the government in order to preserve Obamacare, this time around there will be no shutdown. The previous efforts were futile, so we will not repeat our principled move. The federal government will continue to operate, and Obamacare will continue to damage the well-being of the American people. The Democrats have proven that they are so adamant about inflicting it upon us that they are willing to shut down the government.

A catastrophe is unfolding that is depriving responsible Americans of the health care insurance they prudently purchased, and leaving many unprotected next year, despite administration assurances that they are "enrolled" (even though their insurance companies don't know it and haven't been paid).

I am stunned that so many people, such as the brilliant Charles Krauthammer, fail to see how the predicate was being laid. Having proven themselves willing to shut down the government to protect Obamacare, the Democrats now own it. President Obama's promise that it will not be repealed "while I am president" makes his ego the problem, and Democrats who support him become equally culpable.

One person who does get it is William Jacobson of Legal Insurrection:

Cruz and Lee were trying to stop the disaster known as Obamacare. The legacy will be Democrats going to the mat to protect and preserve Obamacare. If Democrats owned Obamacare before, as a result of the efforts of Cruz, Lee and others, Democrats swallowed Obamacare whole in September.

Now everything has changed because Obamacare and Democrats are one and the same.

Bill and I are still lonely voices. But maybe others will wise up. Today's polling results are not the be-all and end-all of politics. Standing on principle gets noticed when the disaster being fought unfolds as predicted.

Of course, the polls could change by November 2014. But Obamacare is so deeply flawed that its ownership will hurt the Democrats and benefit the GOP.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/ted_cruz_and_mike_lee_being_vindicated_on_shutdown.html#ixzz2mzQp37y3
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2013, 09:40:58 AM
Getting ready to run. 

Ted Cruz says he’s hired lawyers to renounce Canadian citizenship
(http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20131113-ted-cruz-at-value-voter-summit-2013.ece/BINARY/w620x413/Ted+Cruz+at+Value+Voter+Summit+2013)
Sen. Ted Cruz at the 2013 Values Voter Summit on Oct. 11, held by the Family Research Council. (Andrew Burton/Getty Images)
By TODD J. GILLMAN Washington Bureau tgillman@dallasnews.com
Published: 28 December 2013 09:42 PM
Updated: 29 December 2013 10:41 AM

WASHINGTON — The junior senator from Texas is still a Canadian. But he’s working on it, eh?

Born in Alberta 43 years ago last Sunday, Sen. Ted Cruz was unaware of his dual nationality until The Dallas Morning News explored the issue in August.

Since then, he said in a recent interview, “I have retained counsel that is preparing the paperwork to renounce the citizenship.”

He expects to complete the process in 2014. That time frame jibes with predictions from Canadian legal experts.

He doesn’t dispute holding dual citizenship. “Not at this point,” he said.

When Cruz was born, his parents were living in the Canadian oil patch in Calgary. His mother is a native-born American. His father, a Cuban émigré who later became a naturalized American, was still a Cuban citizen.

Under U.S. law, a child born with even one American parent is automatically entitled to citizenship, even if the birth takes place outside the country. Canada, like the United States, also confers automatic citizenship to anyone born on its soil, regardless of the parents’ nationalities.

That revelation by The News startled Cruz and his parents.

His mother, he said, had understood that it would have taken an affirmative act to claim Canadian citizenship, and that’s what she’d told him as a child.

“There was no reason to retain counsel to analyze Canadian law, because it wasn’t relevant to anything I was doing,” he said.

The topic came up last month when he met with real estate mogul Donald Trump, Cruz said, though “not in any significant respect.” He declined to elaborate.

Trump was among the most vocal “birthers” to question Barack Obama’s eligibility to serve as president, refusing to accept as genuine his Hawaiian birth certificate.

But the strong legal consensus is that with even one American parent — a circumstance shared by Obama and Cruz — a child born anywhere qualifies as a “natural born American,” entitled to citizenship at birth and therefore eligible to serve as president.

The senator shrugged off any political implications.

“My political perspective is focused on representing the state of Texas,” he said.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20131228-ted-cruz-says-hes-hired-lawyers-to-renounce-canadian-citizenship.ece
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on December 30, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
the repubs run another man with no chance of winning, smart  :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 30, 2013, 10:20:10 AM
Getting ready to run. 

Ted Cruz says he’s hired lawyers to renounce Canadian citizenship

LOL... I can just hear Perry and the other repubs coming at him... "Maybe we can ask Cruz what they think of this issue, up in canada..."
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on December 30, 2013, 10:27:55 AM
Carnival Cruz  ;D they never learn  :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on December 30, 2013, 12:03:31 PM
December 7, 2013
Ted Cruz and Mike Lee being vindicated on shutdown
Thomas Lifson

 
The GOP establishment is loath to admit it, but the government shutdown is turning out to be a brilliant political chess move on the part of Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. The Obamacare disaster, fully predictable by anyone who understands the effect of incentives and the fundamental incompetence of academic theorists and left wing ideologues, has made the go-for-broke attempt to stop it an obvious profile in courage.

Just take a look at this chart from the Huffington Post, via Charlie Cook:

(http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/assets/generic%20ballot%2012%2013.jpg)

Cook, a seasoned observer, sees the polling data moving against Democrats, and wonders, "Can Democrats Recover From the Obamacare Catastrophe?" But he fails to connect the dots, and dishes some typical establishmentarian snark at Cruz and Lee.

...in August, statements started coming from some of the more exotic Republicans in the House and Senate that perhaps it was a good idea to shut down the government over the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. Notwithstanding warnings from House and Senate Republican leaders and experienced (and wiser) members that such an effort would be a disaster for the party, the Republicans in the "kamikaze caucus" barreled ahead, over the cliff, shutting down the government.
 
 They were stupid, in Cook's eyes, because the polls turned against the GOP, as the media launched its predictable campaign blaming it for the ginned-up inconveniences (remember fencing off the WW II memorial?). What Cook doesn't (or refuses) to see is that the turning of polls against the Democrats post-healthcare.gov is not a random, chance occurrence, but rather predictable to anyone who looks two or three moves ahead on the chessboard.

The budget and debt limit fights lie ahead. Cruz and Lee have laid out the path for us. The GOP can now say that that because the Democrats have shown they are willing to shut down the government in order to preserve Obamacare, this time around there will be no shutdown. The previous efforts were futile, so we will not repeat our principled move. The federal government will continue to operate, and Obamacare will continue to damage the well-being of the American people. The Democrats have proven that they are so adamant about inflicting it upon us that they are willing to shut down the government.

A catastrophe is unfolding that is depriving responsible Americans of the health care insurance they prudently purchased, and leaving many unprotected next year, despite administration assurances that they are "enrolled" (even though their insurance companies don't know it and haven't been paid).

I am stunned that so many people, such as the brilliant Charles Krauthammer, fail to see how the predicate was being laid. Having proven themselves willing to shut down the government to protect Obamacare, the Democrats now own it. President Obama's promise that it will not be repealed "while I am president" makes his ego the problem, and Democrats who support him become equally culpable.

One person who does get it is William Jacobson of Legal Insurrection:

Cruz and Lee were trying to stop the disaster known as Obamacare. The legacy will be Democrats going to the mat to protect and preserve Obamacare. If Democrats owned Obamacare before, as a result of the efforts of Cruz, Lee and others, Democrats swallowed Obamacare whole in September.

Now everything has changed because Obamacare and Democrats are one and the same.

Bill and I are still lonely voices. But maybe others will wise up. Today's polling results are not the be-all and end-all of politics. Standing on principle gets noticed when the disaster being fought unfolds as predicted.

Of course, the polls could change by November 2014. But Obamacare is so deeply flawed that its ownership will hurt the Democrats and benefit the GOP.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/12/ted_cruz_and_mike_lee_being_vindicated_on_shutdown.html#ixzz2mzQp37y3

this is not a vindication of the shutdown but a repudiation of the horrible rollout of Obamacare (website malfunction, cancelled policies, etc..)

the rise you see in Generic Dem Candidate was a result of the public backlash AGAINST the shutdown which they blamed on Repubs and then then the crash in Dem support was due to the horrible roll out of Obamacare

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: temple_of_dis on December 30, 2013, 01:47:39 PM
the dem run another man with no chance of winning, smart  :D

fixed

hitlery isn't a man
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 10, 2014, 04:09:51 PM
Cruz Calls President ‘Dangerous And Terrifying’
January 10, 2014

AUSTIN, Texas (CBS Houston/AP) — U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz has told a conservative conference that President Barack Obama is lawless, providing the right wing rhetoric that makes him so popular in his home state.

The conservative Republican laid out his reasoning for why he thinks the president is “dangerous and terrifying.”

According to the Statesman, Cruz also slammed Obama for what he referred to as a pattern of “lawlessness on a breathtaking scale.”

“We are a nation of laws and not men,” Cruz was additionally quoted as saying by the website. “If we had a system where a president can pick and choose what laws to follow at utter whim … that is seriously dangerous.”

The public policy conference at which he spoke was sponsored by the conservative Texas Public Policy Foundation. Minutes before his address, the organization posted a photograph of Cruz on their official Facebook page.

His address comes just one day after he released a statement on his official website that took aim at Obama’s “promise zone.”

“It’s altogether fitting that President Obama is … talking about income inequality because income inequality has increased dramatically as a direct result of his economic policies,” the statement reads. “Unfortunately, rather than stop Washington’s job-killing policies, President Obama proposes yet more government spending and debt.”

It concludes, “All of America needs to be a real ‘Promise Zone’ – with reduced barriers to small businesses creating private-sector jobs – and we should start by repealing every word of Obamacare, building the Keystone pipeline, abolishing the IRS, and rolling back abusive regulations.”

Cruz has garnered national attention by frequently condemning the Obama administration and the federal health care overhaul. In addition to calling for a complete repeal of the Affordable Care Act, he said he would replace it with a conservative alternative that would expand health care coverage.

Cruz also criticized Obama for not enforcing drug laws in states that have legalized use of marijuana.

Phillip Martin, deputy director of the liberal Progress Texas group, said Cruz’s positions have damaged the nation, particularly when he led Republican efforts to shut down the U.S. government if Obama did not repeal his health care program.

“Ted Cruz’s temper tantrums cost taxpayers billions of dollars and did nothing for the 6 million Texans without health insurance,” he said.
Cruz is often mentioned as a potential candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/01/10/cruz-calls-president-dangerous-and-terrifying/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on January 10, 2014, 07:41:07 PM
fixed

hitlery isn't a man

Very clever you are indeed.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: avxo on January 11, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Well, Ted Cruz certainly is a competent lawyer (and, maybe even a law professor: he just published a great paper containing original legal scholarship, a rare if not unheard of thing for a sitting U.S. Senator to do such a thing) and he might make a decent Judge if he could divorce his personal beliefs from the law, but President?

I can't think of anything that makes me think that he's the person I want at the helm. I really can't. on the other hand, I can think of a few reason as to why I don't.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: tonymctones on January 11, 2014, 09:00:18 PM
Well, Ted Cruz certainly is a competent lawyer (and, maybe even a law professor: he just published a great paper containing original legal scholarship, a rare if not unheard of thing for a sitting U.S. Senator to do such a thing) and he might make a decent Judge if he could divorce his personal beliefs from the law, but President?

I can't think of anything that makes me think that he's the person I want at the helm. I really can't. on the other hand, I can think of a few reason as to why I don't.
give it a day or two AV, wait until you see the dem candidate who is ready to double down on the progressive policies we have seen for the last 5 years...youll be begging to vote for the rep candidate...

when the best dem candidate is hillary "what difference does it make now" clinton...well just refer to the above
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2014, 05:19:31 PM
give it a day or two AV, wait until you see the dem candidate who is ready to double down on the progressive policies we have seen for the last 5 years...youll be begging to vote for the rep candidate...

when the best dem candidate is hillary "what difference does it make now" clinton...well just refer to the above

I wish what you said was right.  I am still waiting for some "progressive" policies.  Obama isn't half the liberal Richard Nixon was.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on January 27, 2014, 10:21:42 PM
In the span of a year, Cruz has transformed himself from a little-known Senate candidate into the face of a government shutdown that has roiled Washington politics and raised questions about the viability of the American political process.

Sen Cruz.... The shutdown is the #1 thing you have accomplished.  Own it... Brag about it.  Don't deny it - it's your #1 source of street cred with your base!



Veteran CBS host laughs in Cruz’s face after he repeatedly denies shutting down government

“The question I asked you was, would you ever conceive of trying to shut down the government again?” Schieffer pressed, clearly not buying in to the alternate reality.

“As I said, I didn’t threaten to shut down the government the last time,” Cruz insisted. “I don’t think we should ever shut down the government. And I repeatedly voted…”

“Well,” Schieffer interrupted, laughing out of frustration. “If you didn’t threaten to shut down the government, who was it that did?”

“President Obama,” Cruz said.

MORE plus video:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/26/veteran-cbs-host-laughs-in-cruzs-face-after-he-repeatedly-denies-shutting-down-government/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 28, 2014, 09:06:47 AM
Cruz to Obama: Apologize in Speech for Lost Health Coverage
Monday, 27 Jan 2014
By Greg Richter

Sen. Ted Cruz has a suggestion to President Barack Obama for his State of the Union address Tuesday: look the American people in the eye and say he's sorry to everyone who has lost health insurance under Obamacare.

"Unfortunately, the odds are not high" he'll do it, Cruz, R-Texas., said on Fox News Channel's "On the Record With Greta Van Susteren."

"This president has not taken responsibility for the harm that has come from his policies," Cruz said Monday.

Van Susteren noted that Obama did apologize in a November TV interview.

"An apology is empty if there's no action after it," Cruz responded.

The senator said he goes home to Texas almost every weekend and meets people who say they've lost their coverage and are scared.

Though 48 million were reported to have been without health insurance before the Affordable Care Act began accepting enrollments Oct. 1, there have been only 3 million new enrollees, and only 330,000 of those didn't already have coverage, Cruz said.

It would have been cheaper to have sent each of them $1 million, which would have cost only one-sixth as much as has been spent, he said.

"And it wouldn't have messed up everyone else's insurance," he said.

Open enrollment lasts through the end of March, but actual signups to date haven't met projections. Also, young, healthy people, who were supposed to have provided the plan's financial support, have been slow to sign on.

Asked by Van Susteren what he saw as Obamacare's "breaking point," Cruz said there were a series of them. The first came in the fall, when 5 million people lost their healthcare coverage because of the law. The second, which is happening now, is the spikes in premiums seen by younger people.

The final shoes to drop will come in the spring, he said, when premiums go up for everyone and people realize they can't see their current doctors. Finally, he said, large companies will drop their employees as the employer mandate kicks in and let them fend for themselves on the healthcare exchanges.

Republican Sens. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, Orrin Hatch of Utah, and Richard Burr of North Carolina on Monday presented their own alternative to Obamacare, the Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment Act, or CARE Act. It would keep parts of Obamacare but give more power to states and individuals.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Ted-Cruz-union-sorry-Obamacare/2014/01/27/id/549355#ixzz2riJghh2n
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on January 28, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
Sen Cruz.... The shutdown is the #1 thing you have accomplished.  Own it... Brag about it.  Don't deny it - it's your #1 source of street cred with your base!



Veteran CBS host laughs in Cruz’s face after he repeatedly denies shutting down government

“The question I asked you was, would you ever conceive of trying to shut down the government again?” Schieffer pressed, clearly not buying in to the alternate reality.

“As I said, I didn’t threaten to shut down the government the last time,” Cruz insisted. “I don’t think we should ever shut down the government. And I repeatedly voted…”

“Well,” Schieffer interrupted, laughing out of frustration. “If you didn’t threaten to shut down the government, who was it that did?”

“President Obama,” Cruz said.

MORE plus video:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/26/veteran-cbs-host-laughs-in-cruzs-face-after-he-repeatedly-denies-shutting-down-government/

iron clad proof that Ted Cruz is certifiably insane and not competent to hold any public office
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 29, 2014, 10:13:53 AM
Ted Cruz: The Imperial Presidency of Barack Obama
In the nation's history, there is simply no precedent for an American president so wantonly ignoring federal law.
By TED CRUZ CONNECT
Jan. 28, 2014

Of all the troubling aspects of the Obama presidency, none is more dangerous than the president's persistent pattern of lawlessness, his willingness to disregard the written law and instead enforce his own policies via executive fiat. On Monday, Mr. Obama acted unilaterally to raise the minimum wage paid by federal contracts, the first of many executive actions the White House promised would be a theme of his State of the Union address Tuesday night.

The president's taste for unilateral action to circumvent Congress should concern every citizen, regardless of party or ideology. The great 18th-century political philosopher Montesquieu observed: "There can be no liberty where the legislative and executive powers are united in the same person, or body of magistrates." America's Founding Fathers took this warning to heart, and we should too.

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At a White House reception for U.S. mayors, Jan. 23. Reuters

Rule of law doesn't simply mean that society has laws; dictatorships are often characterized by an abundance of laws. Rather, rule of law means that we are a nation ruled by laws, not men. That no one—and especially not the president—is above the law. For that reason, the U.S. Constitution imposes on every president the express duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Yet rather than honor this duty, President Obama has openly defied it by repeatedly suspending, delaying and waiving portions of the laws he is charged to enforce. When Mr. Obama disagreed with federal immigration laws, he instructed the Justice Department to cease enforcing the laws. He did the same thing with federal welfare law, drug laws and the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

On many of those policy issues, reasonable minds can disagree. Mr. Obama may be right that some of those laws should be changed. But the typical way to voice that policy disagreement, for the preceding 43 presidents, has been to work with Congress to change the law. If the president cannot persuade Congress, then the next step is to take the case to the American people. As President Reagan put it: "If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat" of electoral accountability.

President Obama has a different approach. As he said recently, describing his executive powers: "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone." Under the Constitution, that is not the way federal law is supposed to work.

The Obama administration has been so brazen in its attempts to expand federal power that the Supreme Court has unanimously rejected the Justice Department's efforts to expand federal power nine times since January 2012.

There is no example of lawlessness more egregious than the enforcement—or nonenforcement—of the president's signature policy, the Affordable Care Act. Mr. Obama has repeatedly declared that "it's the law of the land." Yet he has repeatedly violated ObamaCare's statutory text.

The law says that businesses with 50 or more full-time employees will face the employer mandate on Jan. 1, 2014. President Obama changed that, granting a one-year waiver to employers. How did he do so? Not by going to Congress to change the text of the law, but through a blog post by an assistant secretary at Treasury announcing the change.

The law says that only Americans who have access to state-run exchanges will be subject to employer penalties and may obtain ObamaCare premium subsidies. This was done to entice the states to create exchanges. But, when 34 states decided not to establish state-run exchanges, the Obama administration announced that the statutory words "established by State" would also mean "established by the federal government."

The law says that members of Congress and their staffs' health coverage must be an ObamaCare exchange plan, which would prevent them from receiving their current federal-employee health subsidies, just like millions of Americans who can't receive such benefits. At the behest of Senate Democrats, the Obama administration instead granted a special exemption (deeming "individual" plans to be "group" plans) to members of Congress and their staffs so they could keep their pre-existing health subsidies.

Most strikingly, when over five million Americans found their health insurance plans canceled because ObamaCare made their plans illegal—despite the president's promise "if you like your plan, you can keep it"—President Obama simply held a news conference where he told private insurance companies to disobey the law and issue plans that ObamaCare regulated out of existence.

In other words, rather than go to Congress and try to provide relief to the millions who are hurting because of the "train wreck" of ObamaCare (as one Senate Democrat put it), the president instructed private companies to violate the law and said he would in effect give them a get-out-of-jail-free card—for one year, and one year only. Moreover, in a move reminiscent of Lewis Carroll's looking-glass world, President Obama simultaneously issued a veto threat if Congress passed legislation doing what he was then ordering.

In the more than two centuries of our nation's history, there is simply no precedent for the White House wantonly ignoring federal law and asking private companies to do the same. As my colleague Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa asked, "This was the law. How can they change the law?"

Similarly, 11 state attorneys general recently wrote a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius saying that the continuing changes to ObamaCare are "flatly illegal under federal constitutional and statutory law." The attorneys general correctly observed that "the only way to fix this problem-ridden law is to enact changes lawfully: through Congressional action."

In the past, when Republican presidents abused their power, many Republicans—and the press—rightly called them to account. Today many in Congress—and the press—have chosen to give President Obama a pass on his pattern of lawlessness, perhaps letting partisan loyalty to the man supersede their fidelity to the law.

But this should not be a partisan issue. In time, the country will have another president from another party. For all those who are silent now: What would they think of a Republican president who announced that he was going to ignore the law, or unilaterally change the law? Imagine a future president setting aside environmental laws, or tax laws, or labor laws, or tort laws with which he or she disagreed.

That would be wrong—and it is the Obama precedent that is opening the door for future lawlessness. As Montesquieu knew, an imperial presidency threatens the liberty of every citizen. Because when a president can pick and choose which laws to follow and which to ignore, he is no longer a president.

Mr. Cruz, a Republican senator from Texas, serves as the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Human Rights.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304632204579338793559838308?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304632204579338793559838308.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: tonymctones on January 29, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
iron clad proof that Ted Cruz is certifiably insane and not competent to hold any public office
both of them made the choice to shut it down, it wasnt one sided
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 31, 2014, 07:40:07 AM
Ted Cruz: The Imperial Presidency of Barack Obama
In the nation's history, there is simply no precedent for an American president so wantonly ignoring federal law.
By TED CRUZ CONNECT
Jan. 28, 2014

Of all the troubling aspects of the Obama presidency, none is more dangerous than the president's persistent pattern of lawlessness, his willingness to disregard the written law and instead enforce his own policies via executive fiat. On Monday, Mr. Obama acted unilaterally to raise the minimum wage paid by federal contracts, the first of many executive actions the White House promised would be a theme of his State of the Union address Tuesday night.

The president's taste for unilateral action to circumvent Congress should concern every citizen, regardless of party or ideology. The great 18th-century political philosopher Montesquieu observed: "There can be no liberty where the legislative and executive powers are united in the same person, or body of magistrates." America's Founding Fathers took this warning to heart, and we should too.

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At a White House reception for U.S. mayors, Jan. 23. Reuters

Rule of law doesn't simply mean that society has laws; dictatorships are often characterized by an abundance of laws. Rather, rule of law means that we are a nation ruled by laws, not men. That no one—and especially not the president—is above the law. For that reason, the U.S. Constitution imposes on every president the express duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."

Yet rather than honor this duty, President Obama has openly defied it by repeatedly suspending, delaying and waiving portions of the laws he is charged to enforce. When Mr. Obama disagreed with federal immigration laws, he instructed the Justice Department to cease enforcing the laws. He did the same thing with federal welfare law, drug laws and the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

On many of those policy issues, reasonable minds can disagree. Mr. Obama may be right that some of those laws should be changed. But the typical way to voice that policy disagreement, for the preceding 43 presidents, has been to work with Congress to change the law. If the president cannot persuade Congress, then the next step is to take the case to the American people. As President Reagan put it: "If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat" of electoral accountability.

President Obama has a different approach. As he said recently, describing his executive powers: "I've got a pen, and I've got a phone." Under the Constitution, that is not the way federal law is supposed to work.

The Obama administration has been so brazen in its attempts to expand federal power that the Supreme Court has unanimously rejected the Justice Department's efforts to expand federal power nine times since January 2012.

There is no example of lawlessness more egregious than the enforcement—or nonenforcement—of the president's signature policy, the Affordable Care Act. Mr. Obama has repeatedly declared that "it's the law of the land." Yet he has repeatedly violated ObamaCare's statutory text.

The law says that businesses with 50 or more full-time employees will face the employer mandate on Jan. 1, 2014. President Obama changed that, granting a one-year waiver to employers. How did he do so? Not by going to Congress to change the text of the law, but through a blog post by an assistant secretary at Treasury announcing the change.

The law says that only Americans who have access to state-run exchanges will be subject to employer penalties and may obtain ObamaCare premium subsidies. This was done to entice the states to create exchanges. But, when 34 states decided not to establish state-run exchanges, the Obama administration announced that the statutory words "established by State" would also mean "established by the federal government."

The law says that members of Congress and their staffs' health coverage must be an ObamaCare exchange plan, which would prevent them from receiving their current federal-employee health subsidies, just like millions of Americans who can't receive such benefits. At the behest of Senate Democrats, the Obama administration instead granted a special exemption (deeming "individual" plans to be "group" plans) to members of Congress and their staffs so they could keep their pre-existing health subsidies.

Most strikingly, when over five million Americans found their health insurance plans canceled because ObamaCare made their plans illegal—despite the president's promise "if you like your plan, you can keep it"—President Obama simply held a news conference where he told private insurance companies to disobey the law and issue plans that ObamaCare regulated out of existence.

In other words, rather than go to Congress and try to provide relief to the millions who are hurting because of the "train wreck" of ObamaCare (as one Senate Democrat put it), the president instructed private companies to violate the law and said he would in effect give them a get-out-of-jail-free card—for one year, and one year only. Moreover, in a move reminiscent of Lewis Carroll's looking-glass world, President Obama simultaneously issued a veto threat if Congress passed legislation doing what he was then ordering.

In the more than two centuries of our nation's history, there is simply no precedent for the White House wantonly ignoring federal law and asking private companies to do the same. As my colleague Democratic Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa asked, "This was the law. How can they change the law?"

Similarly, 11 state attorneys general recently wrote a letter to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius saying that the continuing changes to ObamaCare are "flatly illegal under federal constitutional and statutory law." The attorneys general correctly observed that "the only way to fix this problem-ridden law is to enact changes lawfully: through Congressional action."

In the past, when Republican presidents abused their power, many Republicans—and the press—rightly called them to account. Today many in Congress—and the press—have chosen to give President Obama a pass on his pattern of lawlessness, perhaps letting partisan loyalty to the man supersede their fidelity to the law.

But this should not be a partisan issue. In time, the country will have another president from another party. For all those who are silent now: What would they think of a Republican president who announced that he was going to ignore the law, or unilaterally change the law? Imagine a future president setting aside environmental laws, or tax laws, or labor laws, or tort laws with which he or she disagreed.

That would be wrong—and it is the Obama precedent that is opening the door for future lawlessness. As Montesquieu knew, an imperial presidency threatens the liberty of every citizen. Because when a president can pick and choose which laws to follow and which to ignore, he is no longer a president.

Mr. Cruz, a Republican senator from Texas, serves as the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Human Rights.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304632204579338793559838308?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304632204579338793559838308.html


Any of you liberals care to dispute anything he said here? Or is it just easier to call him 'crazy' ::)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 31, 2014, 08:25:47 AM
Cruz: House GOP Immigration Plan Amounts to 'Amnesty'
Friday, 31 Jan 2014
By Melissa Clyne

Tackling immigration reform before the midterm elections in November will splinter the GOP and fumble the party’s opportunity to regain the Senate, predicts Sen. Ted Cruz.

Granting legal status to illegal immigrants, as Republican House leaders recommended Thursday, is tantamount to amnesty, according to Cruz.

"Amnesty is wrong in any circumstance, and if we are going to fix our broken immigration system — and we should — it makes much more sense to do so next year, so that we are negotiating a responsible solution with a Republican Senate majority," the Texas Republican and tea party favorite told Breitbart.

“Anyone pushing an amnesty bill right now should go ahead and put a 'Harry Reid for Majority Leader' bumper sticker on their car, because that will be the likely effect if Republicans refuse to listen to the American people and foolishly change the subject from Obamacare to amnesty.”

House Republicans this week called for a renewed push to create a path to legal status for illegal aliens, a prickly issue within the party.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan maintains that the GOP plan, contained in a set of guiding principles released by the leadership, is not “an automatic pathway to citizenship,” but would allow immigrants to obtain work permits and green cards if border security and other benchmarks are met, The Hill reports.

The House leadership approach to immigration reform also calls for a new guest-worker program, and increase in high-skilled work visas and a pathway to citizenship for children brought into the U.S. illegally, The Hill noted.

Cruz and other GOP conservatives believe that any immigration overhaul should focus first strengthening border security to ebb the flow of illegal immigrants before even considering ways to grant legal or citizenship status to the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants already in the United States.

Republicans are united in their opposition to Obamacare and are hoping to capitalize on the program’s failures in November’s midterm elections. But if immigration reform overshadows it, key conservative groups opposed to the healthcare law say it could kill GOP chances of retaking the Senate and adding seats in the House.

“There’s absolutely no doubt that an immigration push is going to divide the Republican Party and take the focus off Obamacare,” Heritage Action spokesman Dan Holler told Bloomberg Businessweek, which reported earlier this week that Cruz was meeting with House tea party Republicans.

“I very much hope the House of Representatives does not go down that road, and I don’t believe they will,” he said. “It’s certainly something the American people don’t want to see Congress do.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/immigration-cruz-splinter-Republicans/2014/01/31/id/550124#ixzz2rzh0FqdO
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on February 03, 2014, 05:04:21 PM

Any of you liberals care to dispute anything he said here? Or is it just easier to call him 'crazy' ::)
saves time to say crazy. less key strokes. unless one is of the cut and paste school of 333386.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2014, 05:23:11 PM
both of them made the choice to shut it down, it wasnt one sided

false but I have no doubt you believe that

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
false but I have no doubt you believe that


::) have fun voting for nancy bat shit crazy pelosi again
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
::) have fun voting for nancy bat shit crazy pelosi again

Thanks, I will.

I also truly hope you get the opportunity to vote for Cruz for POTUS

It think having him on the ticket would be wonderful for the Dems
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 03, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
Cruz needs to get in the gym and lose that 50's goober look.  You know, the weird, gross fat man face.   He's smart and brilliant ideas and aside from the whole, "i never tried to shut down the govt, it was all obama" lol...

aside from that, he's a great candidate who hasn't stepped in shit, AT ALL, like Christie and the 47% guy back in 2012.   He has a solid record and can really win... but he's gotta work on this look.  Cardio maybe, perhaps a different hairstyle, or a more serious look to him.  He just needs to work on that.  get jacked or epic leans or something.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 03, 2014, 07:54:53 PM
Thanks, I will.

I also truly hope you get the opportunity to vote for Cruz for POTUS

It think having him on the ticket would be wonderful for the Dems

so you vote for someone who admits to voting for shit wo reading it.   FU commie
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 03, 2014, 08:15:15 PM
so you vote for someone who admits to voting for shit wo reading it.   FU commie

you mean just like every other person in Congress

I assume you've voted in the past so you've had to have done the same thing so essentially you just told yourself to FU
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: temple_of_dis on February 05, 2014, 04:35:40 PM
Cruz is cool and into small government.  Id vote for him but Rand and Walker might be even better.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 13, 2014, 04:17:43 PM
Ted Cruz Introduces Anti-Gay Marriage Bill
Posted: 02/13/2014 12:41 pm EST Updated: 02/13/2014

WASHINGTON -- It seems Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has taken up a new cause in Congress -- defending states' right to regulate marriage.

Amid a wave of court decisions striking down anti-gay marriage laws in states, the Texas Republican introduced a bill to the Senate Wednesday to amend U.S. law "with regard to the definition of 'marriage' and 'spouse' for Federal purposes and to ensure respect for State regulation of marriage." Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) is the bill's only co-sponsor so far.

The bill's authors sent out a release about the bill Thursday afternoon, saying "it will ensure the federal government gives the same deference to the 33 states that define marriage as the union between one man and one woman as it does to the 17 states that have chosen to recognize same-sex unions."

“I support traditional marriage. Under President Obama, the federal government has tried to re-define marriage, and to undermine the constitutional authority of each state to define marriage consistent with the values of its citizens,” Cruz said in a statement. “The Obama Administration should not be trying to force gay marriage on all 50 states. We should respect the states, and the definition of marriage should be left to democratically elected legislatures, not dictated from Washington. This bill will safeguard the ability of states to preserve traditional marriage for its residents.”

Cruz's bill comes after Rep. Randy Weber (R-Texas) introduced a bill in January called the "State Marriage Defense Act Of 2014," which would require federal agencies to look into a person's "legal residence" when determining marital status and how federal law would be applied.

In June the Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act, which had barred the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages. Since then, the federal government has allowed gay married couples to file jointly on federal tax returns regardless of state residence and has permitted the surviving spouse of gay married couples to collect Social Security benefits, along with an array of other benefits that were previously only available to heterosexual marriages.

Cruz warned of the dangers of gay marriage a month after the Supreme Court decision in a July 2013 interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network. "If you look at other nations that have gone down the road towards gay marriage, that’s the next step where it gets enforced," he said. "It gets enforced against Christian pastors who decline to perform gay marriages, who speak out and preach biblical truths on marriage."

While Cruz's bill has next to no chance of even coming up in the Democratic-controlled Senate, let alone being signed by President Barack Obama, it is a sign that gay marriage is still an issue among the conservative right. While Republican governors such as Chris Christie of New Jersey and Susana Martinez of New Mexico have decided not to fight gay marriage in their states despite being opposed to it, federal lawmakers have continued to introduce bills limiting its recognition.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/ted-cruz-gay-marriage-bill_n_4780699.html?&ir=Gay+Voices&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000054
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 13, 2014, 05:20:39 PM
Ted Cruz Introduces Anti-Gay Marriage Bill
Posted: 02/13/2014 12:41 pm EST Updated: 02/13/2014

Haters will accuse Cruz of just sucking up to his base.

Most people will just accept this issue is so important to Cruz that he's willing to put it in front of things like healthcare, the economy, immigration, etc. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: tonymctones on February 13, 2014, 05:31:03 PM
Haters will accuse Cruz of just sucking up to his base.

Most people will just accept this issue is so important to Cruz that he's willing to put it in front of things like healthcare, the economy, immigration, etc. 
LOL dont forget your knee pads, dont want those tooth pick knees to get scratched while youre deep throating for libs
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 13, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
LOL dont forget your knee pads, dont want those tooth pick knees to get scratched while youre deep throating for libs

all kidding aside, do you consider this move by Cruz to be anything but sucking up to the far right BASE voters?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: tonymctones on February 13, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
all kidding aside, do you consider this move by Cruz to be anything but sucking up to the far right BASE voters?
id say its pretty consistent with his beliefs and actions so far, so the better question is do you consider the majority of his previous actions "sucking up to his base"?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 13, 2014, 06:51:40 PM
id say its pretty consistent with his beliefs and actions so far, so the better question is do you consider the majority of his previous actions "sucking up to his base"?

Also consistent with the constituents of his state, where they passed a traditional marriage constitutional amendment by more than seventy percent.  And traditional marriage is still on the books in thirty-three states. 

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 25, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
Carville: Ted Cruz Would Make Great Candidate for Conservatives
Tuesday, 25 Feb 2014
By Greg Richter

Ted Cruz, the tea party Republican from Texas, may be exactly what frustrated conservatives are looking for in a presidential candidate, James Carville said Monday on the "Hannity" Fox News show.

Cruz is talented, "whip smart," "as educated a guy as you can be," and very good on his feet, the Democratic strategist said.

If he were a conservative "watching Michele Bachmann or Herman Cain is actually painful," he said. "Ted Cruz to a lot of people says what they're thinking in a very articulate way. He has great command of the language."

Carville said he's heard from many Republicans who tell him they're tired of going along with "establishment" presidential candidates who lose in the general election.

"We went with Bob Dole, we went with John McCain, we went with Mitt Romney," he quoted them as saying. "We went down this road, and everybody said this is the pragmatic thing to do, and it led us to defeat. Why don't we try to get somebody like a Ted Cruz?"

Cruz is undoubtedly skilled enough that he'll do very well in the primaries, Carville predicted.

"Whether he's going to be the nominee or not, I doubt that," he added. "But I think he's going to cause a lot of angst, and I think he's very good on his feet. If I were a conservative, if I were Sean Hannity, if I was Rush Limbaugh, I would like him because he makes the case that I want somebody to make to the American people."

Still, he said, Republicans will have to battle it out whether they want to stick with the pragmatism of a McCain or the idealism of a Cruz.

"That's a conflict that Republicans have got to flush out in 2016," he said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/James-Carville-Ted-Cruz-election-Hannity/2014/02/25/id/554533#ixzz2uNC08LQC
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2014, 03:23:42 PM
Carville = Captain Obvious :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 25, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
Dems would LOVE to see Cruz as the nominee

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 26, 2014, 08:41:27 AM
Lmao could you imagine him debating joe biden
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2014, 10:14:44 AM
Lmao could you imagine him debating joe biden

I've never seen Cruz debate, but I do think he would wipe the floor with Biden.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on February 26, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
I've never seen Cruz debate, but I do think he would wipe the floor with Biden.

Never seen him debate, but do think he'd wipe the floor with Biden.  I can see how you arrived at that conclusion.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 26, 2014, 04:47:16 PM
Cruz is a bomb thrower but doesn't actually have any plans or solutions to anything nor has he been put under the scrutiny of a national candidate

He's has a very slim chance of actually winning the nomination but Dems would LOVE it if he was the candidate
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2014, 04:51:26 PM
Never seen him debate, but do think he'd wipe the floor with Biden.  I can see how you arrived at that conclusion.

Not apparent from what I wrote, but I've seen Biden debate and he's terrible.  I've seen Cruz give speeches and appear on shows, and read comments about his intellect from both liberals and conservatives, etc.  That's why I think he would kick Biden's butt. 

But I guess that's not saying a whole lot.  I think Palin was better in debates than he was, so Ryan, Hillary, and probably most of the other Democrats running in 2008.  That may explain why Democrats repeatedly rejected Biden as the nominee. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on February 26, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
Lol palin. She was a fucking moron,with her catch phrases and winks  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on February 26, 2014, 10:01:05 PM
If memory serves, Uncle Joe debated Eddie Munster right after Obama laid the egg in the 1st debate with Mitt.  Also, if memory again serves, I believe Uncle Joe laid waste to the twerp and set the wheels in motion for Obama's ass-kicking of Mitt in the rematch and ultimate face fucking in the general election.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2014, 11:45:27 PM
Cruz is a bomb thrower but doesn't actually have any plans or solutions to anything nor has he been put under the scrutiny of a national candidate

He's has a very slim chance of actually winning the nomination but Dems would LOVE it if he was the candidate

I want to disagree.... but the last FOUR repub nominees?

Two RINOS and a "compassionate Conservative" twice. 

The last TRUE conservative... tough question.... Reagan?  Um, lots of liberal policies there too.

Typically, most repubs WANT a true conservative, but there are 6 of them in the race, and 2 RINOS... and the conservatives always get their 10% each while the #1 RINO wins with 24% lol.   shocking... 60%+ of the repubs want a non-RINO, yet they always end up with one...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 27, 2014, 08:18:44 AM
Colin Cowherd did a piece on hispanics/repubs/cruz/rubio today.

He said 2 days after the 2016 election (where obama got 71% of hispanic vote and Romney got 27%)...

Hannity went on TV and OFFICIALLY reversed his anti-amnesty position for FOX news, and the network just changed positions instantly. 

And, the GOP instantly made Rubio & Cruz their two biggest stars, scooting some other repubs that have more experience to the side because, well, they wanted to adapt and win that hispanic vote.  Tough to disagree.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 27, 2014, 08:40:03 AM
I want to disagree.... but the last FOUR repub nominees?

Two RINOS and a "compassionate Conservative" twice.  

The last TRUE conservative... tough question.... Reagan?  Um, lots of liberal policies there too.

Typically, most repubs WANT a true conservative, but there are 6 of them in the race, and 2 RINOS... and the conservatives always get their 10% each while the #1 RINO wins with 24% lol.   shocking... 60%+ of the repubs want a non-RINO, yet they always end up with one...

the last 4 Repub Nominees were

Bush
Bush
McCain
Romney

McCain lost his marbles during the election (remember him one day saying the fundamentals of the economy are strong and the next day shutting down his campaign? and of course Palin turned out to be POISON)

Romney - bad candidate from the beginning but still the Repubs knew they had to choose him because who else were they going to run.  I think at that point every other idiot had been on top for a few weeks and the last of the bunch to hold that place was Santorum.  Were they really going to run Santorum?

Repubs have the same problem this year and that's because it's endemic to their party as a whole.  They have driven out the reasonable moderates who are electable while the country as a whole is shifting to the center both socially and fiscally

from the NYT article posted in another thread about Obama's poll ratings:

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A majority of Americans surveyed also said they wanted both parties to do more to address the concerns of the middle class, reduce the budget deficit with both tax increases and spending cuts, and let illegal immigrants stay in the country and apply for citizenship. Mr. Obama shares those positions on the budget and immigration.

Cruz has no answers to any of this shit.  His sole purpose in life is to throw ideological fits

Remember how soundly he was criticized by his own party for forcing a government shutdown with no exit strategy.

The guy is not POTUS material but he will be a nice edition to the 2016 clown car
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 27, 2014, 09:53:32 AM
If memory serves, Uncle Joe debated Eddie Munster right after Obama laid the egg in the 1st debate with Mitt.  Also, if memory again serves, I believe Uncle Joe laid waste to the twerp and set the wheels in motion for Obama's ass-kicking of Mitt in the rematch and ultimate face fucking in the general election.

LOLOLOL at Biden 'laying waste' to anything other than the country or his toilet every morning
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 27, 2014, 10:26:54 AM
If memory serves, Uncle Joe debated Eddie Munster right after Obama laid the egg in the 1st debate with Mitt.  Also, if memory again serves, I believe Uncle Joe laid waste to the twerp and set the wheels in motion for Obama's ass-kicking of Mitt in the rematch and ultimate face fucking in the general election.

That's not my recollection.  Biden was terrible x 2.  Talking loudly, interrupting, sarcasm, rudeness, etc. are not good debate techniques. 

But never fear:  looks like you'll have an opportunity to watch him in action again in the Democrat primary.   
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 27, 2014, 10:34:44 AM
In the Veep debate, Biden was a loud idiotic douchebag BUT he was able to bully Ryan.

Nobody expected uncle Joe to be einstein up in that room.  But many thought Paul Ryan would prove he had what everyone wondered - BALLS.  We know he had the hair, the brains, the experience, the background, the ideology, the speech, the state, all that... but nobody knew if this man - who wanted to be a heartbeat away from the presidency - had the balls to tell the crazy old man in the room to sit down and STFU. 

if crazy uncle joe could make it a loud draw, obama won.  Being polite and sipping water and watching the clock didn't show Ryan to be a grownup yet.  Maybe he'll get there for 2020 or 2024, he's bright and young.  But would JFK or Clinton (both that young also) have sat at that table and let uncle joe biden shout them down all night?  NOPE.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 28, 2014, 11:53:06 AM
Ted Cruz Is Superstar at Tea Party Anniversary
Friday, 28 Feb 2014 11:10 AM
By John Gizzi

At the fifth anniversary celebration of Tea Party Patriots, one of the nation's largest conservative grass-roots organizations, the group's biggest political hero was Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas.

Although Cruz's conservative GOP colleagues Rand Paul of Kentucky and Mike Lee of Utah were given warm welcomes by the hundreds of tea partiers at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in Washington, D.C., the Texan drew the loudest applause for his remarks and was mobbed by the largest flock of autograph-seekers.

"We are making the case for the American people, and let me tell you, I'm absolutely convinced we are going to repeal every single word of Obamacare," Cruz said to a prolonged ovation.

At a briefing with reporters following his address, Cruz told Newsmax that he is not concerned that a national leader has not yet emerged for grass-roots conservatives as Ronald Reagan did in the late 1970s.

Emphasizing his opinion that the tea party movement "emerged from the people, and the American people are its leaders," Cruz said, "I also see an abundance of leaders stepping forward." Although he did not name them, the senator said he considered "anyone who is standing up for the Constitution" as a leader.

"It would be wonderful if 10, 12, or 15 leaders would stand up and make the case for getting back to the Constitution and the fundamental principles that made American great," said Cruz, who is frequently mentioned as a Republican presidential candidate in 2016.

Cruz also praised House Republicans for providing what he called "the only oversight" of the Obama administration.

Cruz recalled how earlier in the week, he had offered a measure in the Senate Judiciary Committee to "make it a criminal offense to target and harass someone because of political views." All the Democrats on the committee voted against his bill, Cruz said.

Noting that it has been nine months since the revelations of the IRS' targeting of conservative tea party groups and President Barack Obama saying he was "embarrassed" by the IRS behavior, Cruz pointed out that "there has been no one indicted so far. The Democrats are now openly embracing the notion that the IRS should not be held accountable."

Cruz held back on saying who he voted for by absentee ballot in the Republican Senate primary next Tuesday. Candidates include fellow Texas Sen. John Cornyn and Rep. Steve Stockman, a tea party-backed insurgent.

"I'm not involved in the race," Cruz told reporters. "I tend to stay out of incumbent primaries. I trust the grass-roots."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ted-Cruz-tea-party-patriots/2014/02/28/id/555347#ixzz2ueFquLP7
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 28, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
Cruz seems to be the only repub that isn't turning into a RINO lately.   Good for him.

I wish he woudln't run from his role in the govt shutdown.  But that's minor.  He's a great candidate for 2016.

He should hit the gym maybe.  Looking a little doughy. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on February 28, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Yes he needs to shape up, he is starting to look chubby/sloppy fat and appearances matter in his field. Maybe we should work up a weighlifting routine for him and send him some advices  :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 13, 2014, 07:41:04 PM
Ted Cruz: I Don't Agree with Rand Paul on Foreign Policy
Sunday, 09 Mar 2014
By Sandy Fitzgerald

Russian President Vladimir Putin does not fear retribution for his actions in Ukraine because President Barack Obama has shown weakness in his foreign policy, Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz said Sunday.

"Their policy has to been to alienate our friends and coddle and appease our enemies," said Cruz, coming off a successful Conservative Political Action Conference appearance this past weekend to speak with ABC "This Week" correspondent Jon Karl.

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The tea party favorite came in second behind Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul in the CPAC's straw poll of 2016 potential presidential race candidates over the weekend. But he's still a star attraction at the event, especially compared to a year ago, when relatively few had heard of the freshman senator, ABC reported.

All that changed by this year, after Cruz' Senate floor filibusters against Obamacare and strong conservative views on the national debt.

Cruz said Sunday that in other critical situations, such as the terror attacks in Benghazi, Libya and Obama's "red line" in Syria, the president has shown weakness and now people like Putin do not think the United States will take action when other leaders act aggressively.

Cruz, who favors sanctions over military action when it comes to dealing with the Ukranian situation, pointed out that "when Mitt Romney talked about Putin expanding his sphere of experience, [then-Sen. Barack] Obama mocked him."

"Putin is a KGB thug," said Cruz. "The president should have stood unapologetically for freedom. When the United States doesn't stand for freedom, tyrants notice."

Paul has commented that some people are still "stuck in the Cold War" era when it comes to dealing with Russia. While Cruz says he's a big fan and good friend of Paul's, "I don't agree with him on foreign policy."

Cruz isn't backing down from his other fights, however. In his CPAC speech, Cruz vowed that Republicans "will repeal every single word of Obamacare," a threat that Karl told him may be difficult as long as Obama is in office.

The Texan said that he does believe that Obamacare will be eliminated, and Democrats will help.

"If there's one thing that unifies politicians of both parties, it is their top priority is preserving their own hides," said Cruz, who believes Congressional Democrats may turn their backs on Obamacare so they can win their upcoming elections.

"It is the most unpopular law in the country," Cruz said. "Millions of people have lost their jobs, their healthcare, and forced into part-time work."

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cruz-obama-paul-putin/2014/03/09/id/556897#ixzz2vtvNaERi
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 13, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
Ted Cruz: I Don't Agree with Rand Paul on Foreign Policy


GOOD!   It's very important that Cruz work hard to show the base that YES, Rand paul will open up the borders, and Cruz WILL NOT.

We all see the coordinated pro-amnesty move by many repubs and FOX news too...

it's nice to see Cruz stick to his principles and not cave with the rest of the libs.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: alabama ftw on March 13, 2014, 10:44:20 PM
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 14, 2014, 07:36:31 AM
GOOD!   It's very important that Cruz work hard to show the base that YES, Rand paul will open up the borders, and Cruz WILL NOT.

We all see the coordinated pro-amnesty move by many repubs and FOX news too...

it's nice to see Cruz stick to his principles and not cave with the rest of the libs.

The more Rand moves to moderate positions for his presidential run the more im favoring Cruz.

Cruz sticks to his guns. Sticks to the principles even while being showered with hate from all sides. The more he does this, the more he is standing out in the field, and conservatives will be drawn to him. They are more than anything else looking for SOMEONE to actually stand up, and not fold or sell out. So far, cruz is the only game in town. Hopefully he can keep it up
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on June 09, 2014, 01:26:47 PM
Ted Cruz wins presidential straw poll at Republican Leadership Conference
Posted by
CNN's Conor Finnegan

(CNN) – Ted Cruz, R-Texas, has won another straw poll, boosting his national profile and elevating his name among potential 2016 presidential contenders.

The firebrand freshman senator and tea party favorite was among a handful of 2016 hopefuls speaking at the Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans this week.

Cruz finished in first place in the annual conference's presidential straw poll at 30.33%. Dr. Ben Carson, a Fox News commentator and conservative activist, finished in second with 29.38% while Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, was third with 10.43%.

Fox News host and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Texas Governor Rick Perry rounded out the top five, at 5.06% and 4.90%, respectively.

Neither Carson nor Paul spoke at the conference, but their support was a show of confidence by the traditionally more conservative crowd. The annual meeting of activists features of who's who of big-name Republican politicians. It is an important appearance for potential presidential candidates to make.

More moderate Republicans also skipped the conference, but many fared much worse in the straw poll. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie came in dead last with 1.11% while Florida’s former Gov. Jeb Bush and current Sen. Marco Rubio and came in seventh and eighth at 4.42% and 3.32 %, respectively.

Cruz's address was among the most popular. He was interrupted several times by cheers and standing ovations - especially when he told the crowd he was "convinced" the Republican Party would retake control of Congress in the midterm elections this fall.

Cruz won the Values Voter summit's presidential straw poll last fall, and came in second to Sen. Paul in this year's straw poll at the big Conservative Political Action Conference.

The potential 2016 presidential candidate said that across the country, people tell him that they are scared – of losing their freedom, losing their constitutional rights, and bankrupting their children and grandchildren.

"There is an urgency facing this country – there is an urgency in politics unlike anything we've ever seen," he said, arguing those fears were driving a new movement.

"America is waking up. We are seeing revival, we are seeing renewal, and together – mark my words – we are going to turn this nation around," he said.

Cruz highlighted his past battles with what he regards as the Washington elites, Democrat and Republican, in the fight over drones, gun rights and filibusters. But he cited a "tsunami" of populist power, a wave of grassroots support as the core of those victories.

"Thank you!" he exclaimed to a shout of thanks from the audience. "Nobody cares what any politician in Washington says. Power in politics, sovereignty in America is with we the people, and that is the path to turning this country around, empowering the people."

That wave will unseat Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-Louisiana, and force Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, out, he said to applause and cheers. A conservative Democrat, Landrieu faces a tough re-election this fall, and the crowd of Louisiana Republicans is eager to unseat her and strip the Democrats of their majority status.

Sounding like a candidate on the trail, Gov. Perry took the occasion to tout his record in Texas, on everything from job creation to reducing nitrous oxide emissions.

“The best ideas can be found in the states, where innovative policies get replicated all the time,” said the two-term governor. “And I have never been afraid to borrow good ideas, regardless of where they come from. No political party has a monopoly on good ideas.”

He argued the party should be the same way.

“If we are to win a majority in both houses of Congress and take back the White House, we must again be the party of big ideas,” he added later. “Americans are looking for leadership that transcends partisanship.”

Former Pennsylvania senator and presidential candidate Rick Santorum also gave a passionate speech that called for a return to conservative values and slammed those who would compromise in order to win elections – a veiled swipe he has made before at moderate Republicans, like Gov. Christie.

"The problem with the Republican Party is that we have people in the party who don't believe in the very foundational principles of our party," said Santorum, going on to criticize the party's "moderate" funders, an "expert political class" from "dark-blue communities" in major cities.

"We talk to job creators, not job holders – and ladies and gentlemen, there are a lot more job holders than there are job creators," he said, with a message of economic populism that pushed the GOP to be "pro-growth and pro-worker," not just pro-business.

Santorum finished in ninth place in the straw poll, at 2.37%.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, and business magnate Donald Trump were also in attendance at the conference - although none of them were included in the straw poll.

Former presidential candidate Herman Cain also spoke, and even hinted that he may run for president again.

Calling the Obama administration "a period of scandals and a crisis of leadership," the businessman and radio host told the crowd to "stay informed. The stupid people are out-voting us."

At one time the leading candidate in the 2012 Republican field, Cain also pushed back against the notion that Republicans don't reach out to minorities – citing himself as an example.

"What am I, chopped liver?" he exclaimed.

Cain was also not featured in the straw poll.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/31/cruz-convinced-gop-to-retake-congress-this-fall/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 09, 2014, 06:58:42 PM
The more Rand moves to moderate positions for his presidential run the more im favoring Cruz.

Cruz sticks to his guns. Sticks to the principles even while being showered with hate from all sides. The more he does this, the more he is standing out in the field, and conservatives will be drawn to him. They are more than anything else looking for SOMEONE to actually stand up, and not fold or sell out. So far, cruz is the only game in town. Hopefully he can keep it up

completely true.   Rand wants to be president so bad, and he knows the brilliant GOP media (Fox, Rush, etc) has backed shitty ass RINOs in the last 2 races, and so the voters have obediently obeyed them.

Rand isn't 1/10th the man that his father is.   :(   Cruz 2016.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Roger Bacon on June 10, 2014, 05:02:09 AM
completely true.   Rand wants to be president so bad, and he knows the brilliant GOP media (Fox, Rush, etc) has backed shitty ass RINOs in the last 2 races, and so the voters have obediently obeyed them.

Rand isn't 1/10th the man that his father is.   :(   Cruz 2016.

I have more faith in Rand. I think he has very similar beliefs as his father, but he's a realist and he doesn't blurt stuff out that will obviously put people off.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2014, 06:54:10 AM
I have more faith in Rand. I think he has very similar beliefs as his father, but he's a realist and he doesn't blurt stuff out that will obviously put people off.

I accepted when he took some politically correct issues on things.  But a radical shift on illegal immigration?   That goes beyond "just not looking crazy" and wanders into RINO Hispandering territory. 

Ron Paul got in trouble when he supported fcked up things because at the time, the Constitution was okay with it.  Rand is just shifting left here to suck up to Hispanic voters.

Repubs are in for a world of hurt when Hispanic voters don't vote for them anyway.  Polls show the majority of actual legal voting Hispanics DONT support amnesty.  All the GOP (and Rand) will do is turn off their base.  And that turned-off base punished RINOs in 08 and 12 elections by staying home.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on June 10, 2014, 07:49:06 AM
I accepted when he took some politically correct issues on things.  But a radical shift on illegal immigration?   That goes beyond "just not looking crazy" and wanders into RINO Hispandering territory. 

Ron Paul got in trouble when he supported fcked up things because at the time, the Constitution was okay with it.  Rand is just shifting left here to suck up to Hispanic voters.

Repubs are in for a world of hurt when Hispanic voters don't vote for them anyway.  Polls show the majority of actual legal voting Hispanics DONT support amnesty.  All the GOP (and Rand) will do is turn off their base.  And that turned-off base punished RINOs in 08 and 12 elections by staying home.

As you've been mentioning recently, look for Rick Perry to make a big splash come primary time if he can run a solid campaign.

He's starting to pick up some serious momentum here lately. Always polled well with Hispanics. Solid conservative who would energize The Right and has a proven Executive track record that would bring in some Independents weary of the disaster we have had to endure the past 6 years.

I'm still not convinced Cruz even wants to run at this point. Perry, of course has that Executive mentality entrenched in him being a multiple term Governor in a big state like Texas but part of me still thinks Cruz just enjoys being that heavy hitter in The Senate for the time being.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2014, 08:26:46 AM
As you've been mentioning recently, look for Rick Perry to make a big splash come primary time if he can run a solid campaign.

He's starting to pick up some serious momentum here lately. Always polled well with Hispanics. Solid conservative who would energize The Right and has a proven Executive track record that would bring in some Independents weary of the disaster we have had to endure the past 6 years.

I'm still not convinced Cruz even wants to run at this point. Perry, of course has that Executive mentality entrenched in him being a multiple term Governor in a big state like Texas but part of me still thinks Cruz just enjoys being that heavy hitter in The Senate for the time being.

Cruz is a VERY safe VP pick for a RINO-ish nominee, like a Jeb or even Rand now, or a Perry.   Perry/Cruz is a great ticket.

Repubs that I know are PISSED when I point out their favorite is suddenly supporting amnesty.   Most deny it outright. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: avxo on June 17, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
Perry/Cruz is a great ticket.

Wha... wait, what?! What's your definition of "great"?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2014, 06:42:11 PM
Cruz is a VERY safe VP pick for a RINO-ish nominee, like a Jeb or even Rand now, or a Perry.   Perry/Cruz is a great ticket.

Repubs that I know are PISSED when I point out their favorite is suddenly supporting amnesty.   Most deny it outright. 

you're high

Not only would he be poison on the ticket but he's the type that is  likely to "go rogue" either on the campaign trail or in office and no smart candidate will want that

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 17, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
you're high

Not only would he be poison on the ticket but he's the type that is  likely to "go rogue" either on the campaign trail or in office and no smart candidate will want that



That was pretty much what Palin & Paul Ryan where... all shiny smiling tea party, very mediocre candidates.

Cruz is better - he's a little frumpy and homely, but he is actually a true conservative.  Palin and Ryan just do it when it is convenient. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2014, 07:22:05 PM
That was pretty much what Palin & Paul Ryan where... all shiny smiling tea party, very mediocre candidates.

Cruz is better - he's a little frumpy and homely, but he is actually a true conservative.  Palin and Ryan just do it when it is convenient. 

the guy who shut down the government is not going to be on the ticket

he is poison and a loose cannon

no one is going to be that stupid
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 17, 2014, 07:30:20 PM
the guy who shut down the government is not going to be on the ticket
he is poison and a loose cannon
no one is going to be that stupid

Palin was never vetted properly.  Palin was the definition of a loose cannon lol. 

Paul Ryan had ZERO presence.  He made romney look exciting.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on June 17, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Palin was never vetted properly.  Palin was the definition of a loose cannon lol.  

Paul Ryan had ZERO presence.  He made romney look exciting.



Palin translates well to a good personality for the television/entertainment.

As far as political skill goes she's not even in the stratosphere as Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz wins or at the very least sways elections for politicians with his endorsements.

Does that translate to winning Presidential elections? Maybe yes, maybe no. Ultimately that comes down to The American People.

But make no mistake, the man will be VERY strong with his presence during debates and the very opposite of the tired, played out "He's a nutcase" angle lefties like to throw out there.

The main reason lefties attack Ted Cruz so hard is because he obviously has big time political skill otherwise you would hardly even know his name.

He's like the anti-Barack Obama whose own party can't separate themselves from him quickly enough come campaign time.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 17, 2014, 07:43:51 PM
Palin translates well to a good personality for the television/entertainment.

As far as political skill goes she's not even in the stratosphere as Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz wins or at the very least sways elections for politicians with his endorsements.

Does that translate to winning Presidential elections? Maybe yes, maybe no. Ultimately that comes down to The American People.

But make no mistake, the man will be VERY strong with his presence during debates and the very opposite of the tired, played out "He's a nutcase" angle lefties like to throw out there.

The main reason lefties attack Ted Cruz so hard is because he obviously has big time political skill otherwise you would hardly even know his name.

He's like the anti-Barack Obama whose own party can't separate themselves from him quickly enough come campaign time.


Cheney was about the most boring VP choice ever - 2 wins.
Al gore - even boringer - 2 wins.
Look at Bush1 too... boring boring boring.

They were taken seriously because they spoke slowly, made their points and weren't about flash/trying to please.  They had gravitas, which I believe cruz is developing very quickly.  Paul Ryan was a smiler, always trying to grin and please.  Palin was just so full of herself ,mocking education and using the L-word because her venom was all that she had. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on June 17, 2014, 07:48:15 PM
Palin translates well to a good personality for the television/entertainment.

As far as political skill goes she's not even in the stratosphere as Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz wins or at the very least sways elections for politicians with his endorsements.

Does that translate to winning Presidential elections? Maybe yes, maybe no. Ultimately that comes down to The American People.

But make no mistake, the man will be VERY strong with his presence during debates and the very opposite of the tired, played out "He's a nutcase" angle lefties like to throw out there.

The main reason lefties attack Ted Cruz so hard is because he obviously has big time political skill otherwise you would hardly even know his name.

He's like the anti-Barack Obama whose own party can't separate themselves from him quickly enough come campaign time.


I've said MANY times I would love to see him on the ticket

I'm praying to satan he's on the ticket

I'm just saying it's not going to happen because he's political poison

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on June 17, 2014, 07:53:56 PM
Cheney was about the most boring VP choice ever - 2 wins.
Al gore - even boringer - 2 wins.
Look at Bush1 too... boring boring boring.

They were taken seriously because they spoke slowly, made their points and weren't about flash/trying to please.  They had gravitas, which I believe cruz is developing very quickly.  Paul Ryan was a smiler, always trying to grin and please.  Palin was just so full of herself ,mocking education and using the L-word because her venom was all that she had. 

I never really thought about it but you might be onto something there.

As much as I loathe Al Gore now, looking back at that period of time he was actually heralded in pretty high regard as being a significant talent behind the scenes and some would even call him the "real" talent at the beginning of Clinton's presidency.

And of course with Bush 2, Cheney was looked at as "the real power behind the scenes" for practically all of W's tenure.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 17, 2014, 09:50:24 PM
It's all about GRAVITAS.  It's that slow, quiet dignity with which strong leaders carry themselves.

You see Susanna Martinez, all smiles and nonstop pandering tossing around gun model numbers and giggling - that's soft, dude.  But you see Jeb - Serious face and telling the base "I dont give a shit what you think" - that's deep, experienced gravitas.  Even if you disagree with everything Jeb says, you respect the dude cause he will smack you in the head.

Hilary has it.  Obama is trying.  Bill Clinton has it.  Newt has it.  Bush 1 always have it.  Reagan sure had it.  Rudy tries.  Huck has it now. Perry is developing it very quickly.  Ron Paul definitely had it.  

Romney doesn't have it.  Mccain is too immature to have it, despite everything he's done.  Singing "bomb iran" - nobody can argue he's dignified.  

Maybe that's what I'm trying to define - slow, quiet dignity.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: avxo on June 18, 2014, 01:57:22 PM
But you see Jeb - Serious face and telling the base "I dont give a shit what you think" - that's deep, experienced gravitas.  Even if you disagree with everything Jeb says, you respect the dude cause he will smack you in the head.

I don't respect Jeb Bush; respect is earned, and he's done nothing to earn mine - in fact, he's done a few things that caused him to be in the red.

The "Jeb Bush is great!" movement is alien to me. I don't understand what people see in him; he wasn't a particularly good Governor and he most likely would not be a particularly good President. And frankly, I find it hard to believe that out of however many millions of us are eligible for the Office of the President, Jeb Bush is even moderately-well qualified.

That he's a member of the Bush clan is the straw that breaks the camel's back for me; even if were great, I would not vote for him because I do not believe it is wise to install member after member of a family - any family in office.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on June 18, 2014, 03:18:49 PM
Cruz can be the GOP nominee in '16. He has impeccable establishment credentials, Princeton/Harvard, which makes him acceptable to the ruling class. And his foreign policy remarks are code words for "I support Israel." 

he will have to downplay having a decent education.  Many low-grade voters equate attending nice schools with "hoity toity liberals".
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on August 01, 2014, 10:26:42 AM
Ted Cruz bucks the establishment, again
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN
July 31, 2014

Washington (CNN) -- Ted Cruz appears to have played a key role in the emergency border bill falling apart in the House.

Less than 24 hours before GOP leaders pulled a vote on Thursday on the $659 million emergency measure to address the crisis provoked by a surge of migrant youth from Central America, the arch-conservative Republican senator had lobbied House allies to scrap it unless it included a provision to toughen deportation policy.

Support for the bill as written was already tenuous at best, but Cruz held sway, for the moment anyway. Negotiations were scheduled to run into Thursday night with a GOP meeting set for Friday morning to discuss next steps.

Still, the meddling complicated an already arduous process in both the House and the Senate of marshaling support to help thousands minors, many unaccompanied and still stuck in a legal limbo that is stressing immigration services.

Ground zero for the crisis is the Rio Grande crossing in Cruz's home state of Texas.

Has his reasons

Cruz had his reasons and it wasn't the first time he's figuratively crossed the Capitol to buck Republican leaders to make his case to conservative members.
The move that heightened legislative uncertainty most likely leaves President Barack Obama able to throw pretty sharp darts at House Republicans.
Obama's sure to blame them for doing nothing about the border crisis as Congress stops work for a month-long summer recess, likely leaving him to use his executive powers to do what he can in the meantime.

Even though getting a bitterly divided Congress to agree on a common approach on the border crisis in a midterm election year was a long shot from the start, it appears lawmakers in both parties won't even have the political cover as they arrive home of having voted for or against something in their own chamber.
"The Obama White House should put Ted Cruz on the payroll," Republican Rep. Peter King of New York quipped to the Washington Post following Cruz's latest foray into House affairs.

 Cruz vs. Boehner on border bill Should Congress leave for break? 'Border is not open to Central Americans'
What was he after anyway?

Cruz, a tea party star who may have presidential ambitions, met with House allies on Wednesday night in is office where pizza was served. His office wasn't saying much about it.

But others who were there said he pushed them hard for a provision that would bar the Obama administration from expanding a policy that prevents deportation of immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children.

He urged them to oppose the emergency border bill backed by Speaker John Boehner and his lieutenants unless it defunded that policy. Cruz likens it to amnesty even though it does not convey legal status.

California GOP Rep. Devin Nunes said Cruz's intervention was "not helpful."

"It's kind of shocking to me that some of our members are willing to turn their voting cards over to the Senate or to outside groups," Nunes said of those following Cruz' lead.

But Rep. Steve King, an Iowa Republican who attended the dinner meeting with Cruz, said the attendees did not make a pact on the House bill and denied that he twisted any arms to kill it, as Republican leadership aides have claimed.

"I don't think that would be accurate," he told CNN Senior Congressional Correspondent Dana Bash. "Ted's a listener."

Remember the shutdown

The scenario on Thursday conjured up memories of last fall, when Cruz led the charge against funding Obamacare that helped draw Congress into a government shutdown.

At the time, Cruz rallied tea party allies in the House to join his dogged opposition to Obama's signature health law, which remains a partisan political flashpoint.

Instead of working for compromise in the days before the shutdown, Cruz took to the Senate floor for 21 hours to push against Obamacare. The shutdown lasted 16 days.

Boehner and other Republicans admitted the tactic was a mistake and some, like Sen. John McCain, called it futile.

"It was a fool's errand to start with. It was never going to succeed," McCain said then on CNN's "State of the Union."

Cruz placed the blame squarely on Democrats and the White House and denied his role in provoking the shutdown, despite being branded by Democrats and even some Republicans as the architect of the standoff.

And then there was Cruz and the debt ceiling.

And the debt ceiling

Just months later, Cruz again angered fellow Republicans by blocking a vote to raise the nation's borrowing authority so it could pay its bills.
Republicans quickly scuttled Cruz's filibuster attempt, which would have forced at least 60 senators to vote in favor of raising the debt limit to avoid a U.S. debt default.

That would have forced some Republicans into the awkward position of voting against the measure and being seen as responsible for another shutdown or voting for it and hurting their standing with conservatives.

That procedural move provoked a contentious exchange between Cruz and his GOP colleagues as he accused the Republican leadership of "trickery."

Cautious on primaries

Cruz has since cautiously waded into primary politics this election cycle by linking up -- often quietly -- with conservative groups that are backing challengers and opposing establishment incumbents in several Senate primaries.

Cruz appeared in a Senate Conservatives Fund ad backing a tea party-backed candidate vying for an open Oklahoma Senate seat in June.

And that group has poured millions of dollars supporting challenges to Republican incumbents, including state Sen. Chris McDaniel's contentious challenge to veteran Sen. Thad Cochran and Matt Bevin's failed battle against Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Cruz also penned a fundraising appeal for the Madison Project, a PAC that set its sights on dethroning establishment figures ranging from Cochran to McConnell to Kansas Sen. Pat Roberts.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/31/politics/ted-cruz-establishment-challenge/index.html?hpt=hp_bn3
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2014, 10:29:34 AM
Ted Cruz bucks the establishment, again
By Jeremy Diamond, CNN


where can I order a Ted Cruz T-shirt?   I will wear that thing twice a week.  Love this candidate.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 01, 2014, 10:46:27 AM
I love hearing all the RINOS and the democrats like peter king get their panties twisted over Cruz...

"Waaahh, we were already to go on vacation, we had our little bandaid, cave-in legislation all ready to go as usual, so we could tell our constituents we 'did something', and here comes Cruz again trying to get us to do the right thing!! Ugh i hate him!!"

Hahhaha, fucking losers, the american people are laughing at you. Cruz is the only one actually trying to fix the problem
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: RRKore on August 01, 2014, 11:48:17 AM
I love hearing all the RINOS and the democrats like peter king get their panties twisted over Cruz...

"Waaahh, we were already to go on vacation, we had our little bandaid, cave-in legislation all ready to go as usual, so we could tell our constituents we 'did something', and here comes Cruz again trying to get us to do the right thing!! Ugh i hate him!!"

Hahhaha, fucking losers, the american people are laughing at you. Cruz is the only one actually trying to fix the problem

Speaking of congressional vacation:
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on August 01, 2014, 12:39:12 PM
where can I order a Ted Cruz T-shirt?   I will wear that thing twice a week.  Love this candidate.

That is one thing I have to say in defense of 240...I don't understand where he is coming from alot of times and he gets portrayed as a liberal leaning lefty but he has always been firm in his backing of Cruz.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on August 01, 2014, 01:27:49 PM
That is one thing I have to say in defense of 240...I don't understand where he is coming from alot of times and he gets portrayed as a liberal leaning lefty but he has always been firm in his backing of Cruz.

I like cruz a lot.  He was a little inconsistent during the shutdown, but he's head and shoulders above the rest of the GOP crop and anyone the Dems can throw at 2016.

See that - because I can admit the candidate I like has a flaw - the downplaying of his role in the shutdown/displacing blame - I will be called a raging liberal piece of shite. 

If I'm asking an opinion of a candidate, I put more faith in an assessment which includes some flaws too.  When I hear "So-and-so is perfect, zero flaws, zero mistakes", I have to wonder.   So I'll get shit on for saying that about him.  But yeah, Cruz is gonna be fiscally responsible.  He will close up the border.  He will get us out of the world police business.  No republican will, we know that.  No dem will, we know that too.  Cruz has been consistent, even when his own party and FOX shit all over him.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on August 29, 2014, 04:07:11 PM
Ted Cruz feeds 2016 buzz with hires
By BURGESS EVERETT and JOHN BRESNAHAN | 8/28/14

Ted Cruz is beefing up his political staff as speculation heats up that the Texas senator may run for president in 2016.

The Republican firebrand is adding muscle to his campaign and political operations to help Cruz and his staff keep up with the growing political demands on Cruz since he arrived in the Senate in 2013 and achieved fame — or notoriety, depending on one’s view.

Joel Mowbray, a consultant for a foreign policy think tank, has been volunteering for the political operation and “will end up playing a role” on the paid political staff, the adviser said. Nick Muzin, a former top House Republican Conference aide that now works in Cruz’s congressional office as a deputy chief of staff, will be working on coalitions building and outreach for Cruz’s political operation.

(Also on POLITICO: Michael Steele: Beware pizza with Ted Cruz)

Jason Miller, who’s advised prominent conservatives like Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), has been brought on to “to put together a more robust communications operation,” the adviser said, while longtime GOP presidential campaign hand and Axiom Strategies founder Jeff Roe has been brought on board to build out the political organization. Lauren Lofstron will work on fundraising. Those three hires were first reported by the Washington Examiner.

Chip Roy, Cruz’s chief of staff, also received $1,100 in July for political consulting for the senator’s leadership PAC — though this is not Roy’s first work on the political side for Cruz, the adviser said. Both GOP Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Marco Rubio of Florida have moved their chiefs from their congressional offices to their political operations — but Roy isn’t going anywhere yet.

Several Cruz aides sought to dispel rumors that Roy is stepping away from Cruz’s congressional office to engage in politics full-time. Roy remains Cruz’s chief of staff, they said.

“[Cruz’s] leadership, his travel, the positions he’s taken; all of the above have created a real demand. We are making sure we are adding new resources,” a Cruz adviser said Thursday evening. “The only way to achieve change is to build a robust grassroots army,” the adviser added, which “takes a lot of work.”

Though Cruz has not announced that he will run for president, the work of several more experienced political hands in his shop will allow a 2016 campaign to more easily rev up. And most tapped-in Republicans inside and outside Washington believe Cruz is indeed eyeing the White House, with his growing sway on the right, increased visibility stumping for conservative candidates and a book on the way for 2015.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/2016-elections-ted-cruz-110437.html#ixzz3BpEICVNf
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on August 29, 2014, 04:56:06 PM
Cruz can run on how he shut down the government and helped create gridlock by blocking everything he could

That should endear to to the majority of the country who we all know loves gridlock and partisan bickering
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 02, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
Cruz fires up conservatives, says bomb Islamic State 'back to the Stone Age'
Published August 31, 2014
FoxNews.com

Sen. Ted Cruz, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, made clear this weekend his foreign policy strategy for dealing with the militant group Islamic State: “bomb them back to the Stone Age.”

"They want to go back and reject modernity," he said. "Well, I think we should help them. We ought to bomb them back to the Stone Age."

Cruz, R-Texas, made his remarks Saturday in Dallas at a summit for Americans for Prosperity, the political arm of the billionaire GOP donors Charles and David Koch.

The influential gathering of conservatives also included speeches by a few other potential 2016 GOP White House candidates -- Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence.

Cruz also staked out his position on such domestic issues as the U.S. border-illegal immigration crisis and the Affordable Care Act.

“In the year 2017, a Republican president in the Rose Garden is going to sign a bill repealing every word of ObamaCare," he said.

Cruz joked about inviting President Obama to the southern border to see where thousands of unaccompanied immigrant children have poured into the country. The president declined such an invitation from Perry.

"I figured out the only way there is a chance in heaven he might come (is if) I'm inviting him to come to a golf course," Cruz said.

A crowd of more than 3,000 at a hotel ballroom serenaded him with calls of "Run Ted, Run."

However, Cruz ignored direct questions about a presidential campaign when he met with reporters after the speech.

He told conservatives in the audience, "Each of you is here because we are part of a grassroots fire that is sweeping this country. … We are building an army."

On Friday, Perry and Paul pounced on Obama's "we don't have a strategy yet" comments earlier in the week regarding the violent militant faction of Islamic State attacking cities in Iraq.

"Yesterday, the president admitted he had no strategy to deal with ISIS," Perry said, drawing hoots and hisses from a packed convention hall. "The deepening chaos in Iraq, Syria, Gaza, and Ukraine is all the clear and compelling evidence the world needs of a president one step behind, lurching from crisis to crisis."

Paul fired up the audience by suggesting that Obama's lack of leadership showed he'd been on the job too long.

Republicans criticizing Obama's foreign policy is nothing new, but there are deepening divisions within the GOP over how to move forward.

The broader debate pits those who favor the GOP's traditional muscular foreign policy -- a group that includes Perry and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio -- and those, like Paul and Cruz, who prefer a smaller international footprint. The so-called isolationist approach plays well with grassroots activists and a war-weary public, but worries many Republican officials and donors who prefer an aggressive American role in world affairs.

The intra-party divisions largely weren't much on display at the Americans for Prosperity event, but will become clearer as the crowded group of possible presidential candidates tries to distinguish themselves in the coming months.

Pence didn't mention Obama's comments. He told the Associated Press afterward only that “the president of the United States is the commander of chief of our armed forces. I wouldn't want to prejudge what his military advisers counsel."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/31/cruz-fires-up-conservatives-says-bomb-islamic-state-back-to-stone-age/?intcmp=trending
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 02, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
Nothing is obvious about who the nominee will be nearly two years out.  Too much can happen. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 29, 2014, 03:32:18 PM
September 27, 2014
Cruz clinches straw poll gold again
By Julian Hattem

Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz won the Value Voters Summit presidential straw poll on Saturday.

The crowd burst onto applause on Saturday, as Family Research Council President Tony Perkins announced that Cruz won 25 percent of votes at the annual Washington conference.

The victory is a big victory to the Republican firebrand and Tea Party icon, coming just a day after he drew standing ovations with a religious and emotional speech that blasted ObamaCare, congressional Democrats and called for Republicans to take over the White House in 2016.
Cruz also won the straw poll in 2013.

Coming in second was neurosurgeon Ben Carson, a political novice who has a large following in conservative circles but said earlier this week that there is a “strong” likelihood that he would run for president. He won 20 percent of the votes.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) came in third, with 12 percent of the vote.

As a signal of Carson’s popularity at the summit, the former Johns Hopkins University neurosurgeon came in first in the polling for vice president, winning 22 percent of the votes.

Cruz was the runner up in that contest, with 14 percent. Third was Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) — who earned surprising admiration in his Friday evening address, despite his low showing in recent polls of potential 2016 contenders — with 11 percent of the vote.

The annual Washington summit is considered a right of passage for prospective Republican presidential candidates, and served as an opportunity for aspirants to make some of their most direct pitches to social conservatives before announcing their ambitions next year.

The notable absence from the winners' list of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) — another senator who is considered to be strongly eyeing a presidential run — is a sign of pervasive skepticism from the religious right.

Paul’s libertarian leanings have won him supporters among the young and tech-savvy, but he has yet to make inroads among Christian conservatives. The poor showing comes despite his attempts on Friday to appeal to the summit’s religious leanings.

The summit also asks participants which issues they care about most deeply.

“Protecting religious liberty” easily won that contest with 39 percent of the vote, followed by abortion and “protecting natural marriage.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/219099-cruz-wins-value-voters-straw-poll
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on September 29, 2014, 03:41:16 PM
I hope cruz wins the nomination.

These weak ass RINOs aren't winning elections.  Two tries, two fails. Get a true conservative in there!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 29, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
Ted Cruz: No decision yet on 2016
By BURGESS EVERETT | 9/29/14

Ted Cruz has sent every signal that he’s preparing to run for president in 2016 — but on Monday denied that he’s made a decision to seek the White House.

The Texas GOP senator blasted out a statement on Facebook knocking anonymous comments attributed to an “adviser” in a National Journal story that predicted there’s a better than 90 percent chance that the conservative firebrand will run for president.

“Heidi and I have not made any decisions about political plans past the mid-term elections. Clearly we have an overzealous supporter out there making freelance comments, but to be clear, no decision has been made. Whoever this ‘anonymous advisor’ was, he or she had no authority to speak, and doesn’t know what they’re talking about,” Cruz said in the Facebook post.

Cruz has been staffing up the political side of his operation for weeks now, though aides have said those moves are intended to create a platform for a potential Cruz presidential run rather than a definite presidential campaign machine. Typically, neither Cruz nor his aides have pushed back against the suggestion that he’s a White House aspirant — until Monday’s statement.

On Friday at the Values Voter conference Cruz won a straw poll, was cheered on by activists chanting, “run, Ted run” and made veiled references to the importance of the 2016 election and repealing Obamacare in 2017. Over the weekend Cruz packed his schedule with events in Iowa, the first presidential caucus state.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/ted-cruz-2016-decision-111434.html#ixzz3EkVf6Ve8
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on September 29, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
I hope cruz wins the nomination.

These weak ass RINOs aren't winning elections.  Two tries, two fails. Get a true conservative in there!

Not a snowball chance in hell of that happening but it would definitely be fun to see him in the primaries and then we'll likely get to see more of his Dad who is even crazier than he is.

I hope Romney and Santorum decided to run too
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on September 29, 2014, 05:23:54 PM
You haven't jumped on the Ben Carson bandwagon yet?

I like him a lot, but think he lacks the national profile of a Cruz.  Prove me wrong :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on September 30, 2014, 12:28:25 PM
Report: Ted Cruz Getting Ready To Run For President In 2016

Source: National Journal/This Week Magazine



First-term Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is preparing to run for president in 2016, with an announcement from the Tea Party star possibly coming at the end of this year. "At this point it's 90/10 he's in," a Cruz adviser told National Journal. "And honestly, 90 is lowballing it."

The focus for a presidential campaign could end up being foreign policy, with Cruz positioning himself against his potential rival, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, who is known for advocating a more non-interventionist approach.

"Is it true that the American people are war-weary? Absolutely," Cruz told the magazine. "We are tired of sending our sons and daughters to distant lands year after year after year, to give their lives trying to transform foreign nations. But I think it's a serious misreading of the American people to conclude that we are unwilling to defend ourselves, that we are unwilling to be strong and vigorous defending U.S. national security."


Read more: http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/268965/speedreads-report-ted-cruz-getting-ready-to-run-for-president-in-2016
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on September 30, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I hope cruz wins the nomination.

These weak ass RINOs aren't winning elections.  Two tries, two fails. Get a true conservative in there!
yes! it will make the race much more interesting.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 01, 2014, 06:22:34 PM
Not a snowball chance in hell of that happening but it would definitely be fun to see him in the primaries and then we'll likely get to see more of his Dad who is even crazier than he is.

I hope Romney and Santorum decided to run too

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it  :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 07, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
That ship has sailed. 

Cruz: Amend U.S. Constitution to Preserve Marriage Bans
by Aman Batheja Oct. 6, 2014

Hours after the U.S. Supreme Court paved the way for same-sex marriage bans to be lifted in five states, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz called Monday for amending the U.S. Constitution to prevent either the federal government or the U.S. Supreme Court from overturning a state's ban on same-sex marriage.

Cruz announced his plans in a statement Monday in response to the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to let stand appeals court rulings allowing same-sex marriages in Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin. Cruz called the court's decision to let those rulings stand "tragic and indefensible" and expressed concern that it would lead to the overturning of same-sex marriage bans in every state.

Like other statewide Republican officials in Texas, Cruz has been an ardent defender of the state's same-sex marriage ban, which was approved by Texas voters as an amendment to the Texas Constitution in 2005. The Texas ban was ruled unconstitutional by a U.S. District Judge in February. The state immediately appealed that ruling to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals.

"When Congress returns to session, I will be introducing a constitutional amendment to prevent the federal government or the courts from attacking or striking down state marriage laws," Cruz said. “Traditional marriage is an institution whose integrity and vitality are critical to the health of any society. We should remain faithful to our moral heritage and never hesitate to defend it.”

http://www.texastribune.org/2014/10/06/cruz-amend-us-constitution-preserve-marriage-bans/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on October 07, 2014, 09:06:27 PM
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it  :D

I am praying to Jesus, Allah, Satan, all the Hindu Gods, and Quetzalcoatl that Cruz will run

I'm only praying 4 times a day

do you think that is enough to get the message through to Jesus's dad?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on October 07, 2014, 10:14:53 PM
I am praying to Jesus, Allah, Satan, all the Hindu Gods, and Quetzalcoatl that Cruz will run

I'm only praying 4 times a day

do you think that is enough to get the message through to Jesus's dad?


Im hoping Cruz and Carson both runs.

Its gonna be great and by great i mean hilarious.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on October 08, 2014, 10:07:13 PM
"would be like watching two retards trying to fuck a doorknob".

-Patches O'Houlihan
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2014, 10:25:18 AM
I have seen him a few times in interviews and he lacks charisma.  Sort of comes across a little snobbish at times too.  Very smart and has been right on the issues, but this could hurt his brand and image, which unfortunately are important on the national stage.

Ted Cruz could struggle to raise funds for presidential run
By TODD J. GILLMAN tgillman@dallasnews.com
Washington Bureau
Published: 01 December 2014 10:59 PM
Updated: 01 December 2014 11:12 PM

WASHINGTON — Sen. Ted Cruz’s ambitions are clear. He’s a frequent visitor to Iowa and New Hampshire. He’s building a campaign staff.

But to make a serious White House bid takes serious money — at least $20 million by the time the first ballots are cast in early 2016. And that could be a challenge.

Although the Texas Republican is popular at conservative gatherings, Cruz has shown only modest success as a fundraiser. Like Ron Paul and Sarah Palin, he can probably count on showers of cash from enthusiastic legions of small-dollar donors, and that’s an important start.

But many major GOP donors and bundlers want nothing to do with a tea party agitator — particularly business interests dismayed by the federal-spending brinkmanship Cruz has advocated. That could limit his ability to elbow aside well-funded rivals.

“There are very few people I’ve seen inspire the grass roots like Ted Cruz,” said Eytan Laor, a Miami Republican who runs a political action committee that backed about 100 conservative federal candidates this year. But “he has a rap on him from people who don’t know him — the government shutdown, not electable, etc. It’s an issue.”

Much of the party’s donor class is rooting for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush or, at the least, waiting to see whether he makes a move.

“The big elephant in the room is Jeb Bush,” said Ray Washburne, a Dallas developer and national finance chairman of the Republican National Committee, who is neutral in the race. “Donors are all waiting to see what Jeb’s move is.”

He added: “You don’t want to be the first mover to Ted Cruz or Rand Paul if Jeb ends up running. Everyone wants to get behind whoever they think is going to win.”

Washburne figures it will take at least $10 million to be viewed as “a legitimate candidate” by the time of the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary in early 2016. And $20million would be better. The contest could be over by mid-April, and the nominee likely will be someone who raked in at least $50 million by then, though fundraising tends to snowball for the winner of early contests.

Cruz raised about $15 million in his insurgent Senate run in 2012. That was enough to shove aside Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst, with the help of a wave of tea-party support in the GOP primary. In the last two years, he’s raised an additional $3.8million, plus about $640,000 for a political action committee, the Jobs Growth and Freedom Fund.

Individual donors, as opposed to political committees, account for two-thirds of the revenue.

As an indication of his drawing power, after his overnight Senate talkathon against the Affordable Care Act last year, Cruz raked in more than $200,000 in a single week. And other help is available: Last month, Cruz’s roommate and debate partner from Princeton, David Panton, created a super PAC that can raise and spend unlimited sums to support a candidate. The group is called Stand for Principle.

“I would like him to run for president,” Panton said. “We need strong, moral principles and conservative leadership in America that I think Ted offers.”

Super PACs cannot directly coordinate with a candidate or his campaign. But they can aim at the same goals.

“He is someone I have known a long time, and someone I trust implicitly,” Cruz said of Panton, an Atlanta investor.

Maria Zack, an Atlanta-based GOP operative who served as a top aide in Newt Gingrich’s 2012 campaign, chairs the super PAC. Her goal is to raise $50 million by March 2016. The finance committee held its first conference call a week before Thanksgiving.

“We are building a team,” she said. “I don’t think money will be an issue at all. … He is brilliant and he inspires people and our phones will ring off the hook.”

There are other routes to financial success in presidential campaigns, besides direct fundraising. Having a megadonor as a patron is a nice shortcut.

In 2012, Wyoming investor Foster Friess pumped more than $2 million into former Sen. Rick Santorum’s effort. Las Vegas billionaire Sheldon Adelson, a casino magnate, gave $20million to a super PAC that backed Gingrich, a former House speaker. Although no donor can give more than a few thousand dollars directly to a campaign, the advent of super PACs means there’s no limit on what an individual can spend on behalf of a candidate or cause.

Adelson has met with Jeb Bush and others. Cruz sat beside Adelson at a pro-Israel dinner last month in New York, and they met privately for two hours the next day. So far, the “Adelson primary” has yielded no endorsement.

After the Adelson meeting, Cruz shared lunch with a small group of other Jewish leaders.

According to the New York Observer, he lamented that donors will rally to “moderate establishment” candidates such as Bush, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and perhaps Mitt Romney who, in his view, would lose. “A lot of donors will rush to write them checks. And yet if the nominee comes from that bucket, the same voters who stayed home in 2008 and 2012 will stay home again,” Cruz said.

Cruz ally Michael Needham, chief executive of Heritage Action for America, which supports conservative candidates, said the senator is one of many candidates who will be able to raise the resources needed.

“I know tons of people who would write checks to Ted Cruz, and that goes from the person who can give a one-dollar bill to people who can write much larger checks,” he said. “Ted has inspired millions of people and will have the support to do whatever he wants to do next.”

Conservative leader Gary Bauer, who sought the GOP nomination in 2000, dismissed the idea that Cruz would be too polarizing. He noted the defeats of Romney and Sen. John McCain in the last two presidential elections.

“They were good men but did not excite the base,” he said. “The only way you can win is if you’re an outspoken conservative.”

Laor, the Florida Republican, met Cruz a few years ago and quickly became a fan. He predicted that the Texan will win over skeptics as he barnstorms the country but said that doesn’t alter his huge disadvantage when it comes to fundraising.

“Jeb Bush definitely has a great political machine,” he said. “He’s got an army of donors and other political operatives that he’s worked with over the years.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20141201-ted-cruz-could-struggle-to-raise-funds-for-presidential-run.ece
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 02, 2014, 10:35:58 AM
I have seen him a few times in interviews and he lacks charisma.  Sort of comes across a little snobbish at times too.  Very smart and has been right on the issues, but this could hurt his brand and image, which unfortunately are important on the national stage.

Ted Cruz could struggle to raise funds for presidential run

 >:(
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on December 02, 2014, 04:20:05 PM
He is Donald Trump aka a carnival barker with a Harvard degree.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2014, 04:49:12 PM
He is Donald Trump aka a carnival barker with a Harvard degree.

He's much smarter than Trump, sans the net worth. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on December 02, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
He's much smarter than Trump, sans the net worth. 

not much.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 02, 2014, 05:12:49 PM
not much.

I guess it depends on the context, but in terms of overall intelligence, not close.  If we're talking about being a hustler and a good businessman, then easily Trump. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 02, 2014, 05:23:31 PM
trump is a very smart man.  Egomaniac, sure.  Pompous and obnoxious, definitely.  But when people kiss your ass for 40+ years straight, you start to believe it.   Like Romney with "Who let the dogs out", singing to urban youth - nobody ever told him "Mitt, you just don't do shit like that!"  When he sang that shit in the boardroom, there were probably ten yes men laughing along. 

Trump is very smart.  Cruz is very smart.  Different areas of expertise, both capable of running a nation.   Trump is a lifetime lib that turned conservative when convenient.  Cruz is a lifetime conservative.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 16, 2014, 12:33:36 PM
He has a lot of work to do if he wants to be president.  

George Will: Ted Cruz Is ‘Completely Indifferent To The Fact That Politics Is A Team Sport’ [VIDEO]
12/15/2014

One day after saying Elizabeth Warren and Ted Cruz had no idea “what they were trying to accomplish,” syndicated columnist George Will said Monday on “Special Report” the pair have two “exceedingly strange careers underway.” (RELATED: George Will On Warren, Cruz: ‘No One Knows What They Were Trying To Accomplish’)

Will told Fox News’ Doug McKelway that Cruz is “indifferent” to politics being a “team sport,” adding further that there hasn’t been “a more peculiar career” in the Senate than the one Cruz is currently enjoying.

The conservative columnist also said while Democrats are “bemused” by his antics, he is “loathed” within the GOP caucus, while also telling McKelway if Cruz doesn’t get the GOP nomination in 2016, assuming he runs for it, his return to Washington will be “awkward.”

WILL: We have two exceedingly strange careers under way here. Elizabeth Warren, who has won one election, a Democrat in Massachusetts, not heavy lifting, says that she’s really worried about risk. And she’s focused on some minor matter about derivatives and banks. Yet, a few days ago, Fannie [Mae] and Freddie [Mac] announced they now are going to have mortgages for low-income people with 3 percent down. This is walking right down the same path that the housing crisis that Fannie and Freddie gave us that catalyzed the recession.

Then we have Ted Cruz. There have been 1,957 senators in the history of this country and I can’t imagine there’s been a more peculiar career than the one he’s having right now. He is completely indifferent to the fact that politics is a team sport. Juan’s absolutely right, Democrats are more bemused by him. He is frankly loathed within the Republican caucus. If he seeks the Republican nomination and doesn’t get it, then what? He has to come back here? That’s awkward.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/15/george-will-ted-cruz-is-completely-indifferent-to-the-fact-that-politics-is-a-team-sport-video/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 16, 2014, 06:13:37 PM
He has a lot of work to do if he wants to be president. 

George Will: Ted Cruz Is ‘Completely Indifferent To The Fact That Politics Is A Team Sport’ [VIDEO]
12/15/2014

WOAH.... you're quoting GEORGE WILL when shitting all over Cruz?   Look, Cruz is a great choice and VERY representative of the the conservative BASE of the republican party.   

And Will?   WTF are you doing citing HIM as being in touch with what GOP voters want?

GW?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

anti-death penalty - GOP primary audiences CHEERED Perry for executing people. 

Will supports obama's war policy, very unpopular with repubs.

Will was a "harvard" college professor = lib.

Will flipflopped on Iraq.

Will shit all over Newt in 2012. 
Will shit all over Ann Coulter in 2013.

Will admitted he's a libertarian in 2013.
Will lied about offshore drilling in 2008.
Will lied about flobal warming in 2009.

Will is an athiest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will


SORRY, but I don't think George Will speaks for most repubs, at all.  Maybe liberals.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 16, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
WOAH.... you're quoting GEORGE WILL when shitting all over Cruz?   Look, Cruz is a great choice and VERY representative of the the conservative BASE of the republican party.   

And Will?   WTF are you doing citing HIM as being in touch with what GOP voters want?

GW?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will

anti-death penalty - GOP primary audiences CHEERED Perry for executing people. 

Will supports obama's war policy, very unpopular with repubs.

Will was a "harvard" college professor = lib.

Will flipflopped on Iraq.

Will shit all over Newt in 2012. 
Will shit all over Ann Coulter in 2013.

Will admitted he's a libertarian in 2013.
Will lied about offshore drilling in 2008.
Will lied about flobal warming in 2009.

Will is an athiest.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Will


SORRY, but I don't think George Will speaks for most repubs, at all.  Maybe liberals.

Shut up troll.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 16, 2014, 06:28:12 PM
Shut up troll.

When you respond like this, everyone here realizes "wow, 240 showed Will to be an atheist lib anti-drilling, harvard professor... and BB had zero response..."
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 16, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
When you respond like this, everyone here realizes "wow, 240 showed Will to be an atheist lib anti-drilling, harvard professor... and BB had zero response..."

No.  It's shorthand for that was an incredibly stupid comparison that I'm not going to waste my time dismantling, made by Obama's single biggest cheerleader on this board, which makes the comment utterly disingenuous.

Much easier to just say "shut up troll." 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 16, 2014, 07:43:25 PM
No.  It's shorthand for that was an incredibly stupid comparison that I'm not going to waste my time dismantling, made by Obama's single biggest cheerleader on this board, which makes the comment utterly disingenuous.

Much easier to just say "shut up troll." 

Just stop pretending that liberal-learning, athiest, harvard-professor GWill knows what conservatives truly want.

He doesn't.  He has very little in common with conservatives.  Quoting him evaluating voters on Cruz?  That's like quoting Roseanne Barr on what fitness people like lol.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2014, 09:53:02 AM
Just stop pretending that liberal-learning, athiest, harvard-professor GWill knows what conservatives truly want.

He doesn't.  He has very little in common with conservatives.  Quoting him evaluating voters on Cruz?  That's like quoting Roseanne Barr on what fitness people like lol.

Shut up you lying liberal troll.  (Had to be a little more creative.)   :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2014, 09:54:26 AM
Krauthammer is right about Cruz. 

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2014, 10:10:43 AM
Cruz apologizes for ruining weekends
By Ted Barrett, CNN
Tue December 16, 2014

Washington (CNN) -- Sen. Ted Cruz apologized Tuesday to Republican senators for disrupting their schedules last weekend when he unexpectedly forced the chamber to be in session after Senate leaders had agreed to send everyone home.

"It was a sincere effort to apologize to those he may have put out," said Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nevada, about the apology, which was delivered behind closed doors at the weekly Republican policy lunch in the Capitol.

The controversial move by Cruz -- what amounted to a procedural sneak attack -- caught his leaders and colleagues off guard. Many were angry because they had already left town for family and holiday events and had to come back for a lengthy Saturday session.

"I think it's always appropriate to apologize for unnecessarily causing other people a distress or concern or requiring a change of plan that was completely unexpected," Sen. Dan Coats, R-Indiana, said.

The schedule change also helped Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid move about two dozen nominations, some controversial, who otherwise might not have been confirmed before the end of the session. Cruz did not apologize for assisting the Democrats push through these nominees, senators said.

"I am pleased the Sen. Cruz apologized," said Sen Susan Collins, R-Maine. "I believe it was warranted and I give him credit for doing so. I hope that he will learn from this experience."

Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-New Hampshire, had flown home to take her daughter to The Nutcracker before getting word she would need to return.

"I appreciate his apology but they're getting a number of nominations," they otherwise wouldn't have, Ayotte said, still sounding frustrated.

"All he has to do is keep us informed about what his tactics are and what he's going to try to achieve and to what lengths he'll go," Heller said. "I don't blame him for what he did. He had a position he wanted to take. I respect that. Just let us know."

A spokeswoman for Cruz did not respond to requests for comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/politics/ted-cruz-aologizes-senate-gop/index.html?hpt=po_c2
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 17, 2014, 11:50:46 AM
Shut up you lying liberal troll.  (Had to be a little more creative.)   :)

Dude,,,,, you're going to escort another Dem into office in 2016.   Blah.  That's not cool, bro.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2014, 11:59:15 AM
Dude,,,,, you're going to escort another Dem into office in 2016.   Blah.  That's not cool, bro.

lol.  Says the Obama voter.   ::)

I don't care about political party affiliation.  I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party in 2016, like I do in every election.  If I think the best candidate is a Democrat, I'll vote for him or her.  If I think it's a Republican, I'll vote for him or her. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 17, 2014, 12:01:39 PM
lol.  Says the Obama voter.   ::)

I don't care about political party affiliation.  I will vote for the best candidate, regardless of party in 2016, like I do in every election.  If I think the best candidate is a Democrat, I'll vote for him or her.  If I think it's a Republican, I'll vote for him or her. 


LOL!  Says the Clinton Voter?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2014, 12:04:09 PM
LOL!  Says the Clinton Voter?

Times two, troll.   :)

What I don't do is lie about my party affiliations.  Like you.  Are you a Republican, independent, libertarian, or Democrat this week?  
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Donny on December 17, 2014, 12:06:13 PM
Chill out Guys.. Jimmy Hendrix ;)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2014, 12:18:18 PM
Chill out Guys.. Jimmy Hendrix ;)


 :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 25, 2014, 02:01:47 PM
Jeb Bush Vs. Ted Cruz
December 24, 2014
By Ben Shapiro

Last week, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush announced his intention to "actively explore" a run for president. That announcement spurred spasms of joy in some segments of the Republican Party who have been itching for an effective counter to the enthusiasm of the grassroots right.

Those Republicans — largely coastal donors who scorn social conservatives as rubes, and shun the supposed fiscal extremism of the tea party — have been searching for a candidate who will buck the base on immigration, who doesn't mind hand-in-glove corporatism, and who, most of all, feels the same way they do about the grassroots.

And Jeb Bush promises to fulfill all these criteria. He says he feels "a little out of step with my party" on immigration and recently said that illegal immigration wasn't a "felony" but an "act of love"; his support for Common Core has more than a whiff of cronyism to it; just weeks ago, he told The Wall Street Journal that he would be willing to "lose the primary to win the general without violating [his] principles."

This is the dirty secret of the modern Republican Party: For all the talk about grassroots exasperation with the Republican elites, it is the Republican elites who despise the grassroots. Republican elites do not believe in the dismantling of the welfare state; they believe in its maintenance. They do not believe in the unsophisticated free marketeering of the tea party; they believe in a strong government hand on the economic tiller, so long as that hand is benevolent toward their friends. They do not believe in small government; they believe in large government that serves their ends. If given the choice, a few would even select Hillary Clinton as president over Texas Senator Ted Cruz.

They stake their claim to leadership of the Republican Party on the nonsensical notion that they have a record of victory. Pointing to the dramatic implosions of candidates like Delaware's Christine O'Donnell, who primaried Mike Castle only to be blown out by Chris Coons in her Senatorial race, and Sharron Angle, who lost to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, establishment Republicans state that they — and only they — know how to win elections. They abide by "The Price Is Right" strategy for electoral victory: campaign just to the right of the Democratic candidate in the hopes that you will win everyone to that candidate's right. The magical middle, in this view, is where victory lies.

And so, in 2008, in an election in which Americans resonated to the theme of war weariness, Republicans establishment geniuses touted a Senator most famous for his foreign policy interventionism. In 2012, coming off an election in which Republicans won a stunning victory thanks to popular hatred of Obamacare, Republicans ran the only man in America outside of Barack Obama to implement Obamacare. Grassroots conservatives reluctantly went along with these nominees after failing to unify around an alternative.

Now, in 2016, when Americans have reacted with outrage to President Obama's executive amnesty, and when Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democratic nominee, establishment Republicans want to run a man whose most famous position is warmth for illegal immigration and is famously chummy with the Clintons (he gave Hillary an award in 2013 for public service).

Why nominate this man? The most common explanation: His widely perceived alternative, grassroots favorite, Ted Cruz, cannot win. Cruz, establishment Republicans say, polarizes instead of unifying; he alienates rather than attracting. But that notion springs, once again, from "The Price Is Right" strategy: If the middle voter is your target, Cruz isn't your man. But the middle voter was Mitt Romney's target in 2012, and he got him — Romney won independents 50-45, but lost the election by five million votes. The middle voter was John McCain's target, too — so much so that McCain considered naming Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. He lost decisively, too.

Will Ted Cruz lose more decisively than either of his predecessors? That's a possibility. But margin of loss is significantly less important than the direction of the political narrative. Party insiders see the 1964 nomination of right-wing Barry Goldwater as a massive defeat. Those outside the party infrastructure see it for what it was: a ground shift in Republican politics that led to the rise of Ronald Reagan. Better to nominate someone who will change the conversation and lose than someone who will reinforce that the parties stand for the same tired politics of failure.

Or, perhaps, Cruz doesn't lose at all. Perhaps it turns out that voters are driven by vision and passion rather than bromides from the Yorks and Lancasters of American politics. Perhaps Ted Cruz, or someone like him, actually animates people rather than treating them like widgets to be manipulated by those born to the purple. Perhaps politics isn't "The Price Is Right."

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/ben-shapiro/jeb-bush-vs-ted-cruz
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 31, 2014, 11:59:42 PM
Cruz.  Or Lose.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2015, 03:25:35 PM
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on January 01, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2015, 03:36:00 PM
Cruz.  Or Lose.

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I'm a libertarian... and I don't like obama's plan, for the 97th time.


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I'm voting republican, unless Palin is the nominee.  


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i voted libertarian and will continue to do so.  

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I AM a republican.  I voted for both Bush's and one Dole in the presidential elections, so it really has taken a lot for me to admit my party currently has messed things up bigtime.  I've voted repub my entire life, but YOU have the audacity to say I'm not one, because I don't back the current hijacking of the party?  Sounds like you don't understand the tenets of the party.  When I was running mock school debates in the 8th grade (Bush vs Dukakis), you were prob still in training pants :)  SO I know my party.  And Bush isn't it :(


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I'm a libertarian.

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/

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So I probably will vote dem.  i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on January 01, 2015, 04:21:05 PM
Beach bum/ dos equis,

you're silly.

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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 01, 2015, 04:31:45 PM
Beach bum/ dos equis,

you're silly.

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My whole family - all Republicans - are voting Obama.  i'm driving them to the station later - buying everyone dinner - making it a real family event.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 02, 2015, 11:25:57 PM
Run a real conservative or lose. Period.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 08, 2015, 02:31:06 PM
With Eye on 2016, Ted Cruz Aims to Pull Senate to the Right
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Thursday, 08 Jan 2015
By Jennifer G. Hickey

Mitch McConnell has pledged that "regular order" will be restored to the Senate under his leadership, but his biggest obstacle to achieving that goal may not be Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, but fellow Republicans, particularly Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

With a potential run for the Republican nomination in 2016 in mind, Cruz has "a vested interest in pulling his colleagues to the right in a highly public manner, one that probably won’t be consistent with making deals with the White House," reports The Wall Street Journal.

Despite receiving criticism for his filibuster of a vote on Obamacare, which many thought was an ill-fated strategy, in December, Cruz objected to passing a $1.1 trillion catchall spending bill because it funded Obama's immigration executive orders. Again, his colleagues complained it was a strategy that failed to achieve conservatives' ends, according to The Huffington Post.

This week, Cruz made it clear that he intends to build his own base of support in the caucus for what he terms "a bold agenda," reports The Hill.

The Texas senator already has met with the incoming freshmen Republicans, some of whom he actively supported in their campaigns, to urge them to keep the promises they made to their constituents. The freshmen class currently comprises more than a fifth of the GOP's 54 seat majority.

"What I have encouraged every one of them to do is to urge all of us to honor our commitments. What I’ve urged every one of them to do is answer questions in January the same way you would have answered them in October on the campaign trail,” Cruz told The Hill.

McConnell also has met with the new members, delivering to them the same message he has stated publicly – Republicans must demonstrate they can lead.

“In every meeting, whether it’s with freshmen or others, McConnell’s message has been consistent. The only way we’re going to be relevant is by getting legislation to the president’s desk. That’s the best card we have,” a GOP senator told The Hill on background.

When asked whether he anticipated experiencing the same kind of opposition from members of the tea party and conservatives that faced Rep. John Boehner in his re-election as Speaker of the House, McConnell told The Lexington Herald-Leader: "I think we're going to be pretty unified over here."

McConnell said that Cruz's opposition to the cromnibus bill did result in some presidential nominations gaining approval, but added "it's a new year and a new majority, and I'm optimistic that we're going to have most everybody heading in the same direction on most of the issues that we care about."

Key to maintaining unity within the caucus could be McConnell's deputy John Cornyn, who happens to be a fellow Texan and serves with Cruz on the Senate Judiciary Committee, where they have worked together on contentious issues like immigration.

“We meet regularly, and obviously we both share the responsibility of representing Texas. There’s more collaboration and more communication than perhaps meets the eye," Cornyn said of his relations with Texas' junior senator in an interview with The Dallas Morning News.

The pair met on Wednesday and Cornyn said he pledged to Cruz that they would be "working closely together to try to have the kind of Senate the Founding Fathers envisioned.”

http://www.Newsmax.com/Politics/Ted-Cruz-Mitch-McConnell-Senate-Republicans/2015/01/08/id/617337/#ixzz3OGuFzBBk
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 13, 2015, 07:43:21 AM
I like it.   :)

Cruz: Abolish the IRS
The Daily Caller
By Rachel Stoltzfoos
Published January 13, 2015

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz said Monday that Republicans should take advantage of their control of Congress to abolish the Internal Revenue Service.

“We need to pass fundamental tax reform making our tax code simpler, flatter, fairer,” he said Monday at Heritage Action’s 2015 conservative policy summit. ”And I’ll tell you, the single most important tax reform, we should abolish the IRS.”

“The last two years have fundamentally changed the dynamics of this debate [on the tax code],” he said. “As we have seen the weaponization of the IRS, as we have seen the Obama administration using the IRS in a partisan manner to punish it’s political enemies.”

“In my view there is a powerful populist instinct to take the 110,000 employees at the IRS, to padlock the building, and to put all 110,000 of them down on our southern border.”

Cruz quickly clarified that that remark was somewhat tongue in cheek, but joked that anyone who had traveled thousands of miles to cross the border and saw thousands of IRS agents in their way would definitely turn around and go home.

He acknowledged it’s not really possible to abolish the IRS or adopt a flat tax while Obama is in office, but said Republicans should take steps in that direction by doing whatever they can to simplify the tax code and make its burden lighter and reduce the power of Washington.

Republicans will get “walloped” in 2016 if they return to business as usual while controlling Congress, he said, and urged leadership to take on a bold agenda.

The election was not an embrace of a particular party but a rejection of the path the country is on, he said. “It was the voters saying, ‘the Obama economy, it ain’t working. We want something different. We want real leadership.’”

“If we simply settle into business as usual in this town and keep growing and growing and growing the leviathan and keep shrinking and shrinking and shrinking that sphere of individual liberty, we will demoralize the men and women who came out in November,” he added.

He outlined an agenda that includes repealing and replacing Obamacare, securing the border, passing the Keystone XL pipeline, auditing the Federal Reserve and taking a hard line against ISIS and Iran.

“Let’s lead with a big, bold, positive agenda that says to the American people you had a referendum and you rejected the Obama agenda — there is a better way,” he said. “That’s our opportunity.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/12/cruz-abolish-irs/?intcmp=latestnews
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 13, 2015, 07:57:32 AM
everything he said there is exactly right
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 18, 2015, 10:05:37 AM
He is spot on again.

Ted Cruz: White House ‘Counterfeiting Immigration Documents’
February 18, 2015
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Sen. Ted Cruz speaks to guests at the Iowa Freedom Summit on Jan. 24, 2015 in Des Moines, Iowa. (credit: Scott Olson/Getty Images)

WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, believes that the Obama administration is “counterfeiting immigration documents” under the president’s immigration plan.

Speaking to Fox News following a federal judge’s decision to temporarily halt President Barack Obama’s executive action on immigration, the potential Republican presidential contender said the commander in chief is ignoring federal law.

“One of the things it points out is the president has claimed, rather absurdly, that the basis of his authority is ‘prosecutorial discretion.’ That he’s simply choosing not to prosecute 4.5 million people here illegally,” Cruz told Fox News. “But what the district court concluded, quite rightly, is they’re doing far more than that. The administration is printing work authorizations. It is affirmatively acting in contravention of federal law. Basically, what its doing is counterfeiting immigration documents, because the work authorizations its printing are directly contrary to the text of federal law. It is dangerous when the president ignores federal law.”

U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen’s decision late Monday puts on hold Obama’s orders that could spare from deportation as many as 5 million people who are in the U.S. illegally.

In a memorandum accompanying his order, Hanen said the lawsuit should go forward and that the states would “suffer irreparable harm in this case” without a preliminary injunction.

“The genie would be impossible to put back into the bottle,” he wrote, adding that he agreed that legalizing the presence of millions of people is a “virtually irreversible” action.

Talking to reporters in the Oval Office, Obama said he disagreed with the ruling by Hanen that the administration had exceeded its authority. But he said that, for now, he must abide by it.

“We’re not going to disregard this federal court ruling,” Obama said, but he added that administration officials would continue to prepare to roll out the program. “I think the law is on our side and history is on our side,” he said.

Cruz called it a “major victory for the rule of law.”

“It’s interesting, (Obama) said the law is on his side. There’s at least one person who calls himself a legal scholar who disagrees, and his name is Barack Obama,” Cruz said. “Twenty-two times President Obama has admitted he doesn’t have the authority to issue unilateral amnesty. Twenty-two times he says the constitution doesn’t allow it. He said, ‘This is not a monarchy.’ That’s his quote. And then after the last election, he said never mind and issued it anyway.”
Obama’s directives would make more than 4 million immigrants in the United States illegally eligible for three-year deportation stays and work permits. Mostly those are people who have been in the country for more than five years and have children who are U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents. Applications for the first phase were to begin Wednesday, when as many as 300,000 immigrants brought illegally to the country as children could begin applying for an expansion of Obama’s 2012 program aimed at the younger immigrants known as Dreamers.

Hanen’s ruling late Monday night, in a case brought by 26 states led by Texas, said that Obama and his Homeland Security Department lacked the authority to take the actions they did.

“No statute gives the DHS the discretion it is trying to exercise here,” wrote Hanen, and he issued a stay blocking the actions from taking effect. His order was not a big surprise from a Republican-appointed judge who has showed a hard line on border issues.

The Obama administration could seek a stay of his order in addition to appealing to the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans. Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday that the Justice Department was deciding its next move.

He said, “I’ve always expected that this is a matter that will ultimately be decided by a higher court — if not the Supreme Court then a federal court of appeals.”

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/02/18/ted-cruz-white-house-counterfeiting-immigration-documents/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
Get ready for Saul Alinsky's Rules.  We'll be hearing about some alleged crime, coverup, mistress, etc. 

TRANSCRIPT: Cruz announces presidential campaign
Published March 23, 2015
FoxNews.com

The following is a transcript of Sen. Ted Cruz' remarks at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., where he announced his presidential campaign.

SEN. TED CRUZ: "Thank you so much President Falwell.  God Bless Liberty University.  [cheers and applause]

I am thrilled to join you today at the largest Christian university in the world. [cheers and applause] Today, I want to talk with you about the promise of America.  Imagine your parents when they were children.  Imagine a little girl growing up in Wilmington, Delaware; during World War II - the daughter of an Irish and Italian Catholic family - working class.  Her uncle ran numbers in Wilmington.

She grew up with dozens of cousins because her mom was the second youngest of 17 kids. She had a difficult father - a man who drank far too much; and frankly, didn't think women should be educated.  And yet this young girl, pretty and shy, was driven, was bright, was inquisitive and she became the first person in her family ever to go to college.

In 1956 my mom, Eleanor, graduated Fice University with a degree in math and became a pioneering computer programmer in the 1950s and 1960s.  [applause]

Imagine a teenage boy, not much younger than many of you here today. Growing up in Cuba [audience member cheers - laughter].  Jet black hair, skinny as a rail. [laughter] Involved in student council and yet Cuba was not at a peaceful time - the dictator Batista was corrupt. He was oppressive and this teenage boy joins a revolution.

He joins a revolution against Batista, he begins fighting with other teenagers to free Cuba from the dictators.  This boy at age 17 finds himself thrown in prison, finds himself tortured, beaten.  And then at age 18, he flees Cuba.  He comes to America.

Imagine for a second the hope that was in his heart as he road that ferry boat across Key West and got on a Greyhound bus to head to Austin, Texas - to begin working, washing dishes making 50 cents an hour.

Coming to the one land on earth that has welcomed so many millions.  When my Dad came to America in 1957, he could not have imagined what lay in store for him.  Imagine a young married couple living together in the 1970s.  Neither one of them has a personal relationship with Jesus. They had a little boy and they're both drinking far too much.

They're living a fast life.  When I was 3, my father decided to leave my mother and me.  We were living in Calgary at the time.  He got on a plane and flew back to Texas. And he decided he didn't want to be married anymore and he didn't want to be a father to his 3-year-old son.

And yet when he was in Houston, a friend, a colleague from the oil and gas business invited him to a Bible study; invited him to Clay Road Baptist Church - and there my father gave his life to Jesus Christ. [applause]  And God transformed his heart - and he drove to the airport, he bought a plane ticket and he flew back to be with my mother and me. [applause]

There are people who wonder if faith is real. I can tell you, in my family there is not a second of doubt - because were it not for the transformative love of Jesus Christ, I would have been saved and I would have been raised by a single mom without my father in the house.

Imagine another little girl living in Africa - in Kenya and Nigeria. [audience member cheers] This is a diverse crowd. [laughter] Playing with kids, they spoke Swahili - she spoke English.  Coming back to California [crowd cheers and laughter]. Where her parents who had been missionaries in Africa had raised her on the central coast.

She starts a small business when she is in grade school, baking bread.  She calls it Heidi's Bakery.  She and her brother compete baking bread. They bake thousands of loaves of bread and go to the local apple orchard where they sell the bread to people coming to pick apples.

She goes on to a career in business - excelling and rising to the highest pinnacles. And then, Heidi becomes my wife and my very best friend in the world. [applause]
Heidi becomes an incredible mom to our two precious little girls, Carline and Catheryn, the joys and loves of our life. [applause]

Imagine another teenage boy being raised in Houston hearing stories from his dad about prison and torture in Cuba, hearing stories about how fragile liberty is, beginning to study the United States Constitution, learning about the incredible protections we have in this country that protect the God-given liberty of every American.

Experience challenges at home, the mid 1980s oil prices cratered. And his parents business go bankrupt.  Heading off to school, over a thousand miles away from home in a place where he knew nobody.  Where he was alone and scared and his parents going through bankruptcy meant there was no financial support at home.

So at the age of 17, he went to get two jobs to help pay his way through school. He took over 100-thousand dollars in school loans.  Loans, I suspect a lot of y'all can relate to. [laughter] Loans that, I'll point out, I just paid off a few years ago. [cheers and applause and laughter]

These are who we are as Americans. And yet, for so many Americans, the promise of America seems more and more distant. What is the promise of America? The idea that, the revolutionary idea that this country was founded upon, which is that our rights, they don't come from man. They come from God Almighty. [applause]

And that the purpose of the constitution, as Thomas Jefferson put it, is to serve as chains to bind the mischief of government. [applause] The incredible opportunity of the American dream, what has enabled millions of people from all over the world to come to America with nothing and to achieve anything.

And then the American exceptionalism that has made this nation a clarion voice for freedom in the world, a shining city on a hill. That's the promise of America. That's what makes this  nation an indispensable nation. A unique nation in the history of the world.

And yet so many fear that that promise is today unattainable. So many fear it is slipping away from our hands. I want to talk to you this morning about reigniting the promise of America.

Two hundred and forty years ago on this very day, a 38 year old lawyer named Patrick Henry stood up just 100 miles from here in Richmond, VA and said "give me liberty or give me death."  [applause]

I want to ask each of you to imagine, imagine millions of courageous conservatives all across America rising up together to say in unison "we demand our liberty." [applause]

Today, roughly half of born again Christians aren't voting. They're staying home. Imagine instead millions of people of faith all across American coming out to the polls and voting our values. [applause]  Today, millions of young people are worried about the future, worried about what the future will hold. Imagine millions of young people coming together and standing together saying "we will stand for liberty." [applause]

Think just how different the world would be. Imagine instead of economic stagnation, booming economic growth. Instead of small businesses going out of business in record numbers, imagine small businesses growing and prospering. Imagine young people coming out of school with 4-5-6 job offers. [applause]

Imagine innovation thriving on the internet as government regulators and tax collectors are kept at bay and more and more opportunity is created. [applause] Imagine America finally becoming energy self-sufficient as millions and millions of high paying jobs are created. [applause]

Five years ago today, the President signed Obamacare into law. [boos and laughter] Within hours, Liberty University went to court filing a lawsuit to stop that failed law. [applause]
Instead of a joblessness, instead of the millions forced into part time work, instead of the millions who lost their health insurance, lost their doctors, have faced skyrocketing health insurance premiums. Imagine in 2017 a new President signing legislation repealing every word of Obamacare. [applause]

Imagine healthcare reform that keeps government out of the way between you and your doctor that makes health insurance personal and portable and affordable. [applause]

Instead of a tax code that crushes innovation that imposes burdens on families struggling to make ends meat. Imagine a simple flat tax. [applause] that lets every American to fill his or her taxes on a postcard. [applause] Imagine abolishing the IRS. [applause]

Instead of a lawlessness and the President's unconstitutional amnesty, imagine a President that finally, finally, finally secures the borders. [applause] and imagine a legal immigration system that welcomes and celebrates those who come to achieve the American dream. [applause]

Instead of a federal government that wages an assault on our religious liberty. That goes after Hobby Lobby, that goes after the little sisters of the poor, that goes after Liberty University. Imagine a federal government that stands for the first amendment rights of every American. [applause]

Instead of a federal government that works to undermine our values, imagine a federal government that works to defend the sanctity of human life. [applause] And to uphold the sacrament of marriage. [applause]

Instead of a government that works to undermine our second amendment rights, that seeks to ban our ammunition. [applause] Imagine a federal government that protects the right to keep and bear arms of all law abiding Americans. [applause]

Instead of a government that seizes your emails and your cell phones, imagine a federal government that protected the privacy rights of every American. [applause] Instead of a federal government that seeks to dictate school curriculum through common core [ applause] imagine repealing every word of common core. [applause]

Imagine embracing school choices the civil rights issue of the next generation. [applause] But every single child, regardless of race, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of wealth or zip code, every child in America has a right to a quality education. [applause]

And that's true from all of the above. Whether it is a public schools or charter schools or private schools or Christian schools or Parochial schools or home schools, every child [applause]

Instead of a President who boycotts Prime Minister Netanyahu, imagine a President who stands unapologetically with the nation of Islam. [applause and cheers]

Instead of a President who seeks to go to the United Nations to end run Congress and the American people. Imagine a President who says I will honor the constitution and under no circumstances will Iran be allowed to acquire a nuclear weapon. [applause]

Imagine a President who says we will stand up and defeat radical Islamic terrorism. [applause] And we will call it by its name. [applause]

We will defend the United States of America. [applause] Now all of these seem difficult. Indeed to some they may seem unimaginable. And yet, if you look at the history of our country, imagine it's 1775 and you and I were sitting there in Richmond listening to Patrick Henry say "give me liberty or give me death." Imagine it's 1776 and we were watching the 54 signers of the Declaration of Independence stand together and pledge their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to igniting the promise of America.

Imagine it was 1777 and we were watching General Washington as he lost battle after battle after battle in the freezing cold as his soldiers with no shoes were dying fighting for freedom against the most powerful army in the world. That too seemed unimaginable.

Imagine it's 1933 and we were listening to Franklin Delano Roosevelt tell American at a time of crushing depression, at a time of a gathering storm abroad that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. Imagine it's 1979 and you and I were listening to Ronald Reagan [applause] And he was telling us that we would cut the top marginal tax rate from 70% all the way down to 28%. That we would go from crushing stagnation to booming economic growth to millions being lifted out of poverty to prosperity and abundance. That the very day he was sworn in, our hostages who were languishing in Iran would be released and that within a decade, we would win the Cold War.

And tear the Berlin Wall to the ground. Would've seemed unimaginable and yet with the Grace of God, that's exactly what happened. [applause] From the dawn of this country and every stage America has enjoyed, God's providential blessing. Over and over again when we faced impossible odds, the American people rose to the challenge.   

You know compared to that, repealing Obamacare and abolishing the IRS ain't all that tough. The power of the American people when we rise up and stand for liberty knows no bounds. (applause) If you're ready to join a grassroots army across this nation, coming together and standing for liberty, I'm going to ask you to break a rule here today and to take out your cell phones and to text the word CONSTITUTION to the number 33733. You can also text IMAGINE, we're versatile.

Once again, text CONSTITUTION to 33733. God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning of this nation and I believe God isn't done with America yet. [Applause] I believe in you. I believe in the power of millions of courageous conservatives rising up to reignite the promise of America, and that is why, today, I am announcing that

I am running for President of the United States . [Applause and cheering]

It is a time for truth. It is a time for liberty. It is a time to reclaim the Constitution of the United States [Applause]. I am honored to stand with each and every one of you, courageous conservatives, as we come together to reclaim the promise of America, to reclaim the mandate, the hope and the opportune for our children and our children's' children. We stand together for liberty.

This is our fight. The answer will not come from Washington. It will come only from the men and women across this country, from men and women, from people of faith, from lovers of liberty, from people who respect the Constitution. It will only come as it has come from every other time of challenge in this country, when the American people stand together and say we will get back to the principles that have made this country great. We will get back and restore that shining city on a hill - that is the United States of America.

Thank you and God Bless You."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/23/transcript-cruz-announces-presidential-campaign/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
12 Reasons Ted Cruz Is a Strong GOP 2016 Candidate
Monday, 23 Mar 2015
By Jim Meyers

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz announced on Monday that he is running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, making him the first major candidate to officially toss his hat in the ring.

While the election is still a long way off, there are several compelling reasons why Cruz should be considered a strong GOP presidential candidate for 2016.

1.   He is off to an early start. Cruz is expected to start his campaign immediately rather than launch an exploratory committee as many potential candidates often do.

2.   He has strong Tea Party support. Amy Kremer, former head of the Tea Party Express, told The Associated Press that the Republican pool of candidates "will take a quantum leap forward" with Cruz's announcement, adding that it "will excite the base in a way we haven't seen in years."

3.   He has been one of the party's most outspoken opponents of Obamacare. In September 2013 he spoke for more than 21 hours on the Senate floor in an attempt to defund the Affordable Care Act.

4.   He has also taken a strong stand on immigration. In December, he defied GOP leaders to force a vote on opposing President Barack Obama's executive action on immigration, although the strategy ultimately failed.

5.   He is seen as more independent than other potential GOP candidates, as shown by his defiance of party leaders on immigration. That could be appealing to the many voters who are frustrated by Washington's partisan politics.

6. He's also firmly in the mainstream of Republican voters on nearly every issue, unlike some fellow candidates. Jeb Bush supports legalization for undocumented immigrants — which many Republican activists oppose — and Rand Paul supported Obama's move to normalize relations with Cuba.

7.   Cruz is a strong campaigner. He scored one of the biggest upsets in the 2012 election when he defeated David Dewhurst in the Texas GOP primary. Dewhurst, who was Gov. Rick Perry's lieutenant governor, spent more than $20 million of his own money but could not overcome the Cruz campaign.

8.   Cruz could appeal to Hispanic voters more than most other GOP candidates. His father was born in Cuba, and Cruz is the first Hispanic U.S. Senator from Texas.

9.   Past elections confirm Cruz's contention that the GOP needs a strong conservative to win the general election. "If we run another candidate in the mold of a Bob Dole or a John McCain or Mitt Romney, we will end up with the same result, which is millions of people will stay home on Election Day," Cruz said in a 2014 CNBC interview.

10.   Cruz could even reach across party lines to appeal to disillusioned voters. "People are looking for something new and something different," Saul Anuzis, former chairman of the Michigan Republican Party, told The Wall Street Journal.

11.   Cruz has a strong legal background. He earned his law degree at Harvard University and clerked for Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist.

12. His wife would be a major asset in the campaign. Heidi Cruz worked on George W. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign, served at the National Security Council under Condoleezza Rice and at the Treasury Department, and most recently was a managing director for Goldman Sachs in Houston. She has taken an unpaid leave to help her husband's campaign.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/ted-cruz-strong-gop-candidate/2015/03/23/id/631946/#ixzz3VFD6q8qi
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
Get ready for Saul Alinsky's Rules.  We'll be hearing about some alleged crime, coverup, mistress, etc. 

Sounds like TRUMP opened up his Alinsky Tactics Manual today and broke out the disproven BIRTHER card on Day 1 of Cruz candidacy. 

If Cruz has a mistress, we'll hear about it.  But of all the GOP possibles, he and Santorum seem like the most squeaky-clean of the bunch.  Walker was ready to incite violence to stop a peacful protest.  Bush did 2 decades of favors.  Christie shut down bridges and let an old lady die in an ambulance stuck in traffic.

Cruz?  I'm betting he's clean as a whistle.  Now, if 14 women accuse him of something, I won't be one of those idiots who won't admit it even after he does lol.  But I'd have to bet he will stay clean - they have to attack him on policy, not secret babies ala Edwards.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 07:01:17 PM

Walker was ready to incite violence to stop a peacful protest.  Bush did 2 decades of favors.  Christie shut down bridges and let an old lady die in an ambulance stuck in traffic.


pathological liar
noun
1.
a person who tells lies frequently, with no rational motive for doing so.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pathological+liar
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 07:08:35 PM
pathological liar
noun
1.
a person who tells lies frequently, with no rational motive for doing so.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pathological+liar

LOL  It's an awesome day for 2016 GOP chances and you are nonstop 240 hating.

Dude, just smile and enjoy the moment.  Cruz is officially in the race. 

(http://i.imgur.com/Qhv3KIN.gif)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 07:11:18 PM
pathological liar
noun
1.
a person who tells lies frequently, with no rational motive for doing so.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pathological+liar

What the F are you talking about?

Walker phone call with fake Koch caller... look it up... he admitted he considered adding violent protesters to the peaceful prtests, but tnought he'd get caught lol.   That's real.  And IMO, that means his closets will be way way messier than a Cruz, for example.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 07:14:59 PM
LOL  It's an awesome day for 2016 GOP chances and you are nonstop 240 hating.

Dude, just smile and enjoy the moment.  Cruz is officially in the race. 

(http://i.imgur.com/Qhv3KIN.gif)

 ::)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
What the F are you talking about?

Walker phone call with fake Koch caller... look it up... he admitted he considered adding violent protesters to the peaceful prtests, but tnought he'd get caught lol.   That's real.  And IMO, that means his closets will be way way messier than a Cruz, for example.

Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and covert yet reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. A compulsive liar may also have difficulties with poor self esteem. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning, rather they simply lie out of habit

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=compulsive+liar
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 09:48:45 PM
Beach, don't you remember the call?   Prankster pretended to be Koch Brother, and Walker took his call...

The call, from Ian Murphy, editor of the Buffalo Beast, an alternative publication in Buffalo, N.Y., occurred on Feb. 22, 2011. Murphy, posing as Koch, asked Walker if he would be "planting some troublemakers" in the peaceful crowds that were protesting his anti-union legislation in Madison.

Walker replied that his office had "thought about that," in a comment that the Madison police chief later called "very unsettling and troubling."


You can listen to the full call here, or anywhere else online.  Walker's own words
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/scott-walker-book_n_4254943.html

Walker admitted he thought about it.   Seriously, you should read about it, as it actually happened.  I like walker, but prefer cruz.   Too many skeletons in closet possibly, if he'll casually admit he considered endangering lives for political means.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 24, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
Beach, don't you remember the call?   Prankster pretended to be Koch Brother, and Walker took his call...

The call, from Ian Murphy, editor of the Buffalo Beast, an alternative publication in Buffalo, N.Y., occurred on Feb. 22, 2011. Murphy, posing as Koch, asked Walker if he would be "planting some troublemakers" in the peaceful crowds that were protesting his anti-union legislation in Madison.

Walker replied that his office had "thought about that," in a comment that the Madison police chief later called "very unsettling and troubling."


You can listen to the full call here, or anywhere else online.  Walker's own words
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/scott-walker-book_n_4254943.html

Walker admitted he thought about it.   Seriously, you should read about it, as it actually happened.  I like walker, but prefer cruz.   Too many skeletons in closet possibly, if he'll casually admit he considered endangering lives for political means.

I've been calling you a pathological liar, but the definition of compulsive liar sounds more appropriate.  It's like part of your DNA.   :-\
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 26, 2015, 10:55:03 AM
Panic.  lol

10 Reactions to Ted Cruz Announcing He's Running for President
BY NAPP NAZWORTH , CHRISTIAN POST REPORTER
March 23, 2015
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U.S. Senator Ted Cruz, R-Texas, confirms his candidacy for the 2016 U.S. presidential election race during a speech at Liberty College in Lynchburg, Virginia, March 23, 2015. Cruz, a conservative firebrand who frequently clashes with leaders of his Republican Party, became the first major figure from either party to jump into the 2016 U.S. presidential election race on Monday when he announced his candidacy earlier in the day on Twitter.

Here are 10 reactions to U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz's, R-Texas, Monday announcement at Liberty University that he is running for president.

These comments are from journalists and pundits from across the partisan and ideological spectrum and are in no particular order.

1. Jerry Brown, governor of California

Cruz's position on climate change make him unfit, not just to be president, but to run for office.

"That man betokens such a level of ignorance and a direct falsification of the existing scientific data. It's shocking and I think that man has rendered himself absolutely unfit to be running for office."

2. David McCabe, The Hill

Cruz spoke without a teleprompter.

"But Cruz does have a background in speaking off the cuff. As a lawyer, he has argued before the Supreme Court, where justices frequently push litigators away from their prepared text with questions and critiques. Cruz was also on the debate team while at Princeton University."

3. Chris Cillizza, The Washington Post

Cruz channeled Barack Obama.

"Ted Cruz doesn't get compared to President Obama all that often. But the senator's speech carried heavy echoes of the rhetoric and positioning that the current occupant of the White House used in the early days of his own national ambitions."

4. Timothy P. Carney, Washington Examiner

Cruz is running against corporate welfare.

"Cruz building a campaign partly around this reminds us that he's aiming squarely at the Tea Party. More broadly, it reminds us that these days being the "conservative" candidate means doing battle, at times with the Chamber of Commerce and the business lobby. As other candidates jump officially into the race, they're going to need to show some bona fides on battling corporate welfare too."

5. The Economist

Cruz was the first to announce his candidacy for president in 2016. Declaring early usually does not go well.

"Ominously for Mr Cruz, the first Republican to declare has not gone on to win the nomination since at least 1952."

6. Ben Domenech, The Federalist

Cruz can win the nomination.

"The Acela corridor mindset about Ted Cruz is basically: 'he has no path,' 'why is he doing this,' or 'he's a disruptive pain in the butt and should shut up and go away.' Allow me to quote one of the emails I received last night on this topic: 'he's a disruptive pain in the butt and should shut up and go away.' Yes, I understand that Cruz's approach to politics and speechmaking rubs some people the wrong way, but there is actually a counterintuitive case to be made that he has a clearer path to the nomination than his critics might like."

7. Domenico Montanaro, National Public Radio

Is Canadian-born Cruz eligible for the presidency?

"The U.S. Constitution says presidential candidates have to be 'natural-born citizens.' But the Supreme Court has never weighed in with a definition, leaving it open to interpretation."

8. Harry Enten, FiveThirtyEight.com

Cruz is too disliked and too extreme to win the nomination.

"Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's newly minted presidential campaign is the media equivalent of a juicy rib-eye that robbers use to distract a guard dog during a heist. He'll get a ton of media attention, and he'll get to spread his message — which may be all that Cruz is after — but Cruz almost certainly has no shot of winning the nomination, according to every indicator that predicts success in presidential primaries."

9. Jordan Weissmann, Slate

Cruz has a weird obsession with abolishing the IRS.

"In any event, the conservative id now has an official candidate, which means some of his pet policy ideas will get a little more attention. My personal favorite, which he mentioned during his speech today, is Cruz's oft-repeated conviction that we should eliminate the Internal Revenue Service — or, as he now likes to half-jokingly put it these days, "abolish the IRS, take all 125,000 IRS agents and put them on our southern border." Cruz says this would be his second priority, after repealing Obamacare (of course). And it's kind of fun to contemplate. The U.S.-Mexico border is 1,954 miles long. Assuming we rotated those 125,000 newly reassigned agents on three separate eight-hour shifts (gotta guard the border 24/7, after all), we could install one agent roughly every 250 feet. That's less than a football field, people. We could basically handle border security like the world's largest game of Red Rover. Weekends would be a little more porous, but that's what overtime pay is for."

10. Montel Williams, radio and television personality

Cruz is again compared to President Barack Obama.

"Because the last time we elected 1st term Senator the result was just swell."

http://www.christianpost.com/news/10-reactions-to-ted-cruz-announcing-hes-running-for-president-136198/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 26, 2015, 10:56:59 AM
Desperation.

MSNBC Apologizes for Comment: Nothing Says ‘Let’s Go Kill Some Muslims’ Like Country Music
by Andrew Kirell
March 25th, 2015

After a guest made a disparaging comment about country music, MSNBC host Ari Melber apologized on-air Wednesday afternoon and informed his audience that the network does not condone such remarks.

During a Now w/ Alex Wagner conversation about GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz‘s statement that he became a country music fan directly after 9/11, guest Jamilah Lemieux opened up the conversation with this remark: “Nothing says ‘Let’s go kill some Muslims’ like country music, fresh from Lynchburg, Virginia. Someone who obviously does not want to be a polarizing candidate, he wants to bring people together, I mean — really? That’s absurd.”

While co-panelists Joan Walsh and Michael Steele could be heard laughing at Lemieux’s remark, guest-host Melber responded: “Well, I mean there’s plenty of country music that doesn’t have that message, right?”

A few segments later, Melber appeared on-air with an apology: “We have a programming note. A few minutes ago on this show, a guest made a comment about country music. That comment was not appropriate, and we want to be clear this network does not condone it.”

Watch the original remark and the subsequent apology below, via MSNBC:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-apologizes-for-comment-nothing-says-let’s-go-kill-some-muslims-like-country-music/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on March 26, 2015, 11:56:08 AM
Desperation.

MSNBC Apologizes for Comment: Nothing Says ‘Let’s Go Kill Some Muslims’ Like Country Music
by Andrew Kirell
March 25th, 2015

After a guest made a disparaging comment about country music, MSNBC host Ari Melber apologized on-air Wednesday afternoon and informed his audience that the network does not condone such remarks.

During a Now w/ Alex Wagner conversation about GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz‘s statement that he became a country music fan directly after 9/11, guest Jamilah Lemieux opened up the conversation with this remark: “Nothing says ‘Let’s go kill some Muslims’ like country music, fresh from Lynchburg, Virginia. Someone who obviously does not want to be a polarizing candidate, he wants to bring people together, I mean — really? That’s absurd.”

While co-panelists Joan Walsh and Michael Steele could be heard laughing at Lemieux’s remark, guest-host Melber responded: “Well, I mean there’s plenty of country music that doesn’t have that message, right?”

A few segments later, Melber appeared on-air with an apology: “We have a programming note. A few minutes ago on this show, a guest made a comment about country music. That comment was not appropriate, and we want to be clear this network does not condone it.”

Watch the original remark and the subsequent apology below, via MSNBC:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-apologizes-for-comment-nothing-says-let’s-go-kill-some-muslims-like-country-music/

Does anyone besides 240 still watch MSNBC ?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 26, 2015, 11:57:39 AM
Does anyone besides 240 still watch MSNBC ?

blacken? 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on March 26, 2015, 12:00:20 PM
blacken? 
Does MSNBC have a live stream on Obamaphones? if so then yes...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: blacken700 on March 26, 2015, 01:25:21 PM

blacken? 
Does MSNBC have a live stream on Obamaphones? if so then yes...

are you two dating? not that there's anything wrong with that just curious
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 26, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
lol you guys know when i'm watching msnbc, because i'm starting threads about it.
you guys know when i'm listening to rush or preferably, hannity, because i'm starting threads about it.

you guys know when i'm constipated or annoyed at arnold classic ratings, because I start threads on it.

Today, I can tell ya I'm disgusted that my local hero shep fox was relegated to the 3pm hour on FOX when his talent is definitely on par with the fairy telling Oreillys of the world.  Yes, the FDNY statements on the NY fire are relevant, but Shep is a great mind who should be doing more than just reading teleprompters.  He's not the creative narrative mind of oreilly, shep sticks to facts, but i like him anyway.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 30, 2015, 01:22:34 PM
Compliments of James.  Check out the second clip in the link.  Long, but gives you a good insight on his intelligence, composure, and position on some issues. 

I think he would kick the crap out of Hillary in a debate. 

Night and day composure compared to President Obama too.  Obama would have been a sarcastic little kid if he endured the same stupid "gotcha" questions for about the first ten minutes. 

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-schools-journalist-on-climate-change/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 30, 2015, 01:56:07 PM
Handled it well.

I think every president SHOULD be subjected to the "gotcha" questions.   

Any prez that doesn't have the guts to face a "tough" challenger like Katie Couric surely lacks what it takes to deal with the Putins of the world.

Any politician that dodges a network is a sniveling punk, it's fair to say.   If anything, conservvative candidates should WELCOME the chance to go on msnbc and outwit the contessa brewers of the world, and win some libs to their cause.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on March 30, 2015, 03:34:26 PM
Compliments of James.  Check out the second clip in the link.  Long, but gives you a good insight on his intelligence, composure, and position on some issues. 

I think he would kick the crap out of Hillary in a debate. 

Night and day composure compared to President Obama too.  Obama would have been a sarcastic little kid if he endured the same stupid "gotcha" questions for about the first ten minutes. 

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-schools-journalist-on-climate-change/

Agree 100%
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 09, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
Cruz Didn't Just Rise Into First Tier — He Was Already There
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Image: Cruz Didn't Just Rise Into First Tier — He Was Already There (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters/Landov)
Friday, 03 Apr 2015

The headlines confirm that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz had a campaign launch to dream of.

"Cruz Surges Following Candidacy Announcement." "Cruz Rockets to Third in New Poll." "Cruz in 'Top Tier' of White House Hopefuls."

A Public Policy Polling survey has Cruz leaping from 5 percent to 16 percent support in the primary; a Fox News poll has Cruz moving up from 4 percent to 10 percent; the Washington Post/ABC News poll has him rising from 8 percent to 12 percent.

Cruz could honestly say that the pundits had bet against him. He's frequently quoted from a hypothesis-heavy New York Times analysis of his chances, which judged that his lack of support from party "elites" and single-digit poll numbers basically ruled him out of contention.

"When the New York Times says that the Washington elites despise me, my only question is whether I have to disclose that to the FEC as an in-kind donation," Cruz crowed in a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity.

"I have to say, I underestimated the importance of an 'actual' presidential announcement to Cruz's numbers," wrote Kyle Kondik, managing editor of Larry Sabato's election-watching Crystal Ball web site.

And yet Cruz's rise should had been totally foreseeable. In the last few presidential campaigns, even candidates with millions of column inches already written about them have gotten bounces from the act of actually entering the race.

At the end of January 2007, Hillary Clinton held at 34.6 percent in the Real Clear Politics average of (sparse) polling, over Obama's 17.6 percent. On Feb. 10, Barack Obama announced his campaign at a rally in Springfield, Ill., a massive event with an air of history and broad national coverage. By March, Obama was just 11 points behind Clinton, at 24.2 percent to her 35.2 percent. Bounce accomplished.

On June 2, 2011, after six months of "exploring" a new bid for the president, Mitt Romney entered the GOP primaries with a speech in New Hampshire. Romney had been the frontrunner, but on launch day he was polling at an average of 17.1 percent over the field. Within two weeks, Romney led the field at an average of 24.4 percent.

That was an impressive-enough bounce, but it was dwarfed by what happened to two also rans: Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann and Texas Governor Rick Perry. She announced her presidential bid on June 27, in her old home town of Waterloo, Iowa. Bachmann was polling at 7.3 percent on that day; within a month, she'd nearly doubled her support, to 13.5 percent.

Bachmannia ended on Aug. 13, when Perry disrupted the usual media coverage of the Ames Straw Poll by announcing his presidential bid from the RedState Gathering in Charleston, S.C. Like Bachmann, he doubled his support, from 16.2 percent on launch day to a peak of 31.5 percent one month later. Until October, and a succession of gaffes on Social Security and immigration, Perry actually led the field.

Cruz's bounce fits right into the pattern – with one caveat. In the Fox News and PPP surveys, Cruz has actually polled higher than he's polling this week. In September 2013, when Cruz had become the key Republican voice arguing for the Affordable Care Act to be defunded, PPP found him polling at 20 percent, ahead of the entire Republican field.

"Ted Cruz this week established himself as the grassroots hero of the Republican Party," said Dean Debnam, president of Public Policy Polling, in a statement at the time.

Two months later, the Fox News poll pegged Cruz's support at 12 percent, two points better than his showing this week. That result didn't get much attention, because in one of the final studies before "Bridgegate" erupted, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was leading the field, four points ahead of Cruz. One month later, as Christie fell, the Washington Post/ABC News poll found Cruz at 12 percent, exactly where the new post- announcement poll puts him.

Cruz's presidential launch didn't push him from the boondocks into the first tier. He'd already been in the first tier. The launch gave him a bounce, roughly what you'd expect from a look at other presidential campaigns, and restoring the primacy Cruz had on the right in late 2013.

Here's the important thing: Cruz, one of the happiest media-bashers in the GOP, entered 2016 by proving pundits wrong. The weekend before his announcement, sources in Cruz's campaign smartly downplayed his fundraising ambitions and the coverage he might get.

Cruz himself bemoaned how "nobody is going to manage to keep up" with the nascent campaign of Jeb Bush. His team hoped – they said – to raise $1 million in the first week. Cruz raised that in one day.

Now he's running a TV ad in the first four primary states, which may get more free media than real-time viewer reaction.

It kicks off with a line from his announcement speech: "Were it not for the transformative love of Jesus Christ, I would have been raised by a single mom without my father in the house."

If the viewer remembers how our current president was raised by a single mom (then by grandparents) after his father left the home, and thinks about the contrast – well, that's the umpteenth reminder that Cruz knows what he's doing.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Cruz-poll-president-campaign/2015/04/03/id/636359/#ixzz3Wri9IFiN
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on April 09, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
Ted Cruz has had a very impressive opening week.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on April 09, 2015, 06:56:57 PM
Cruz Didn't Just Rise Into First Tier — He Was Already There
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=f8d138d0-60d1-4440-ba96-5b0cafb5a4ec&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Cruz Didn't Just Rise Into First Tier — He Was Already There (Kevin Lamarque/Reuters/Landov)
Friday, 03 Apr 2015

The headlines confirm that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz had a campaign launch to dream of.

"Cruz Surges Following Candidacy Announcement." "Cruz Rockets to Third in New Poll." "Cruz in 'Top Tier' of White House Hopefuls."

A Public Policy Polling survey has Cruz leaping from 5 percent to 16 percent support in the primary; a Fox News poll has Cruz moving up from 4 percent to 10 percent; the Washington Post/ABC News poll has him rising from 8 percent to 12 percent.

Cruz could honestly say that the pundits had bet against him. He's frequently quoted from a hypothesis-heavy New York Times analysis of his chances, which judged that his lack of support from party "elites" and single-digit poll numbers basically ruled him out of contention.

"When the New York Times says that the Washington elites despise me, my only question is whether I have to disclose that to the FEC as an in-kind donation," Cruz crowed in a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity.

"I have to say, I underestimated the importance of an 'actual' presidential announcement to Cruz's numbers," wrote Kyle Kondik, managing editor of Larry Sabato's election-watching Crystal Ball web site.

And yet Cruz's rise should had been totally foreseeable. In the last few presidential campaigns, even candidates with millions of column inches already written about them have gotten bounces from the act of actually entering the race.

At the end of January 2007, Hillary Clinton held at 34.6 percent in the Real Clear Politics average of (sparse) polling, over Obama's 17.6 percent. On Feb. 10, Barack Obama announced his campaign at a rally in Springfield, Ill., a massive event with an air of history and broad national coverage. By March, Obama was just 11 points behind Clinton, at 24.2 percent to her 35.2 percent. Bounce accomplished.

On June 2, 2011, after six months of "exploring" a new bid for the president, Mitt Romney entered the GOP primaries with a speech in New Hampshire. Romney had been the frontrunner, but on launch day he was polling at an average of 17.1 percent over the field. Within two weeks, Romney led the field at an average of 24.4 percent.

That was an impressive-enough bounce, but it was dwarfed by what happened to two also rans: Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann and Texas Governor Rick Perry. She announced her presidential bid on June 27, in her old home town of Waterloo, Iowa. Bachmann was polling at 7.3 percent on that day; within a month, she'd nearly doubled her support, to 13.5 percent.

Bachmannia ended on Aug. 13, when Perry disrupted the usual media coverage of the Ames Straw Poll by announcing his presidential bid from the RedState Gathering in Charleston, S.C. Like Bachmann, he doubled his support, from 16.2 percent on launch day to a peak of 31.5 percent one month later. Until October, and a succession of gaffes on Social Security and immigration, Perry actually led the field.

Cruz's bounce fits right into the pattern – with one caveat. In the Fox News and PPP surveys, Cruz has actually polled higher than he's polling this week. In September 2013, when Cruz had become the key Republican voice arguing for the Affordable Care Act to be defunded, PPP found him polling at 20 percent, ahead of the entire Republican field.

"Ted Cruz this week established himself as the grassroots hero of the Republican Party," said Dean Debnam, president of Public Policy Polling, in a statement at the time.

Two months later, the Fox News poll pegged Cruz's support at 12 percent, two points better than his showing this week. That result didn't get much attention, because in one of the final studies before "Bridgegate" erupted, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie was leading the field, four points ahead of Cruz. One month later, as Christie fell, the Washington Post/ABC News poll found Cruz at 12 percent, exactly where the new post- announcement poll puts him.

Cruz's presidential launch didn't push him from the boondocks into the first tier. He'd already been in the first tier. The launch gave him a bounce, roughly what you'd expect from a look at other presidential campaigns, and restoring the primacy Cruz had on the right in late 2013.

Here's the important thing: Cruz, one of the happiest media-bashers in the GOP, entered 2016 by proving pundits wrong. The weekend before his announcement, sources in Cruz's campaign smartly downplayed his fundraising ambitions and the coverage he might get.

Cruz himself bemoaned how "nobody is going to manage to keep up" with the nascent campaign of Jeb Bush. His team hoped – they said – to raise $1 million in the first week. Cruz raised that in one day.

Now he's running a TV ad in the first four primary states, which may get more free media than real-time viewer reaction.

It kicks off with a line from his announcement speech: "Were it not for the transformative love of Jesus Christ, I would have been raised by a single mom without my father in the house."

If the viewer remembers how our current president was raised by a single mom (then by grandparents) after his father left the home, and thinks about the contrast – well, that's the umpteenth reminder that Cruz knows what he's doing.


http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Cruz-poll-president-campaign/2015/04/03/id/636359/#ixzz3Wri9IFiN

what does this statement mean

his father would have ran out on them if not for Jeebus

also being raised by a single parent didn't seem to be a hindrance to Obama getting elected
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 16, 2015, 09:57:52 AM
Good, but he'll have to add some zeroes. 

Ted Cruz Raised $4 Million in Nine Days, Report Shows
Wednesday, 15 Apr 2015

Republican Texas Senator Ted Cruz raised more than $4 million in the first nine days of his presidential campaign, a report Wednesday to the Federal Election Commission shows.

About 44 percent of the contributions came from donors giving $200 or less. Cruz's Senate campaign transferred in about $250,000, giving him an overall starting nut of $4.3 million. Among his contributors: Boston private equity king John Childs and Dallas investor Robert Rowling, both of whom were major Republican benefactors in 2012 and 2014.

The Cruz for President financial documents mark the first public accounting of the 2016 race. Others who have recently declared their campaigns, including Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, both Republicans, and Democratic former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won't report to the FEC until July 15.

Still, the Wednesday filings, which reflect financial activity between Jan. 1 and March 31, offer clues about the fundraising abilities of other candidates and potential contenders.

Rubio, the Republican primary's latest entrant, has been traveling the country for months meeting with possible presidential donors and speaking to voters in important early voting states such as New Hampshire. His pre-existing political committee, which has helped pay for those efforts, on Wednesday reported raising $1.8 million in the first three months of the year.

Paul announced his candidacy earlier this month, and like Rubio, he's been financing his presidential fact-finding via his pre-existing political committee. It raised about $332,000 in the first three months of the year. (Cruz also has one of these; it reported raising $113,225 through March 31.)

Republican Ben Carson has raised more than $2 million—71 percent of which was from people giving $200 or less—since beginning his 2016 presidential exploration bid in early March. The Baltimore neurosurgeon-turned-conservative darling recently said he would announce whether he'll get in the race on May 4 in his hometown of Detroit.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/ted-cruz-raised-4-million/2015/04/15/id/638810/#ixzz3XUa6ifHw
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 16, 2015, 11:02:49 AM
Good, but he'll have to add some zeroes. 

Are you saying he should hire Karl Rove and the dudes that vetted palin back in 2008?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: chadstallion on April 16, 2015, 02:12:48 PM
Does anyone besides 240 still watch MSNBC ?
yup.
start with 20 minutes of Fox and Friends then switch to Morning Joe for the remainder of the show; same stories, just the rest of the information.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 16, 2015, 02:26:57 PM
yup.
start with 20 minutes of Fox and Friends then switch to Morning Joe for the remainder of the show; same stories, just the rest of the information.

now that it's election season, I watch both again.  I didn't watch much of either for about a year. 

I cannot take much of either in very large doses.  FOX with hannity is great.  Oreilly is okay, but he's tame now that he's been busted for lying about warzones and claiming he was outside that suicide when he was really 4 states away.  Morning Joe is absolutely unwatchable but I do like Hardball, as they get combative.  I like it because it gives a conservative a chance to show they're tough when faced with an unfriendly room.  If Cruz goes on Hardball and dominates, he's golden for election season.  If Rand melts to samantha freakin gunthrie - one of the weaker original MSNBC peons - then we realize he's not shrewd, tough, or ready for primetime pressure. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on April 16, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
CRUZ: FEDS SHOULD ‘RECOGNIZE’ STATE DECISIONS ON MARIJUANA

Senator Ted Cruz defends states rights on marijuana

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Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) said marijuana legalization is “a legitimate question for the states to make a determination” and that it is “appropriate for the federal government to recognize that the citizens of [Washington and Colorado] have made that decision” on Thursday’s “Hugh Hewitt Show.”

Cruz said that Colorado and Washington legalizing marijuana is a “qualitatively different situation” than the president’s executive action on immigration “because in that instance — I’m a believer in federalism on a great many issues. I think it was some of the genius of the framers, is understanding that we have many different states, and the citizens of each state are going to have different values. And so as you know, Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis referred to federalism and the many states as laboratories of democracy.”

He continued, “when it comes to a question of legalizing marijuana, I don’t support legalizing marijuana. If it were on the ballot in the state of Texas, I would vote no. But I also believe that’s a legitimate question for the states to make a determination. And the citizens of Colorado and Washington State have come to a different conclusion. They have decided they want to legalize it. I think it is appropriate for the federal government to recognize that the citizens of those states have made that decision, and one of the benefits of it, you know, using Brandeis’ terms of laboratories of democracy, is we can now watch and see what happens in Colorado and Washington State. There have been lots of theoretical arguments for a long time about the consequences of legalizing marijuana. We can now see. If those states suddenly see a dramatic increase in teen drug use, if they see a dramatic increase in crime, if they see significant harmful effects coming from it, I suspect other states are going to be far less eager to walk down that road.”
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on April 16, 2015, 04:57:14 PM
Cruz Comes Out Swinging For Second Amendment

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Fiery Senator Ted Ceuz (R-TX) fired off an email to supporters avowing his steadfast support for the Second Amendment. He defended the original intent of the right to bear arms, writing, "The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution isn't for just protecting hunting rights, and it's not only to safeguard your right to target practice. It is a Constitutional right to protect your children, your family, your home, our lives, and to serve as the ultimate check against governmental tyranny -- for the protection of liberty. When elected President -- I will ensure your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is NOT INFRINGED."

Cruz continued by noting that he has not only supported the Second Amendment vocally, but with his actions as well:

In 2008, as Texas Solicitor General, I drafted a key, pro-gun brief to the U.S. Supreme Court in the Heller v D.C. case and earned the signatures of 31 state attorneys general to uphold the right to keep firearms in the home for self-defense. **We won that case in a 5-4 landmark decision.** Then in 2013 -- after Barack Obama and Harry Reid pledged to pass gun control in the U.S. Senate -- I fought back, ready to shut down the Senate to stop any legislation undermining the 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms.

After the Sandy Hook massacre, Cruz was asked, "In the wake of the Sandy Hook shootings, a statistic surfaced putting support for background checks at 90%. Did you go against the want of the nation with your vote against Manchin/Toomey, and also, how does public opinion shape you response to national problems?" Cruz fired back:

There’s an old line: There are lies, damn lies and statistics. You’re right, that was a poll that was bandied around a lot. You can find an awful lot of results in a poll depending on how you frame the question, as you and I both know. We have a system of background checks in place right now; if either of us goes to a federally licensed firearms dealer there’s a background check that’s put in place.

What Manchin/Toomey was trying to do was to extend that to every private sale between two individuals, put the federal government, not in terms of having a system of background checks for federally licensed dealers but for you and me, for two guys in a duck blind, selling their shotgun one to the other, and the federal government doesn’t have any business there.

And if you ask the American people that, they don’t want the federal government getting in between private consensual sales between individual citizens. And I would note that when you asked about the role of public opinion polls, when it comes to constitutional rights, what matters is what The Bill of Rights says. It doesn’t matter what might be popular at the moment.

We’ve seen regimes across the face of the earth come and take away people’s guns, strip away their rights to defend themselves, and sometimes its been very popular, and yet it is an inevitable prelude to tyranny.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 16, 2015, 06:09:49 PM
Cruz is taking very smart positions on a lot of issues early :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on April 16, 2015, 06:28:26 PM
Cruz is taking very smart positions on a lot of issues early :)

I figured you would like that 2nd amendment article I posted.  8)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Primemuscle on April 16, 2015, 11:26:26 PM
Cruz still has lags behind Clinton in the poles by more than 10 points.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on April 17, 2015, 11:03:20 AM
ADAM CAROLLA: ‘I WANT TO SUPPORT’ TED CRUZ; VERY IMPRESSIVE STORY, VERY IMPRESSIVE BACKGROUND

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Comedian and author Adam Carolla stated “”I want to support Ted. I love me some Ted Cruz” on Friday’s episode of “The Adam Carolla Show.”

After Cruz “a lot of choices” for voters who want “someone who’ll go along to get along,” Carolla remarked “Jeb Bush being one of them perhaps?” Cruz responded that he would leave that determination to the voters.

Carolla later added, “I want to support Ted. I love me some Ted Cruz,” and that Cruz has a “very impressive background…very impressive story.”
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 20, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
 :o

George W. Bush on Ted Cruz: 'I Just Don't Like the Guy'
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Image: George W. Bush on Ted Cruz: 'I Just Don't Like the Guy'  (Getty Images)
By Loren Gutentag   
Tuesday, 20 Oct 2015
 
Former President George W. Bush shocked a group of donors to the Jeb Bush campaign on Sunday night with some blunt talk about one of his brother's biggest rivals – and it isn't Donald Trump.

“I just don’t like the guy,” Bush said about Texas Sen. Ted Cruz on Sunday night, according to Politico, reporting conversations with donors who attended the event.

“The tenor of what he said about the other candidates was really pretty pleasant," one donor noted. "Until he got to Cruz.”

According to Politico, Bush took a harsh view on Cruz's apparent alliance with Trump, the GOP front-runner, when they stood together at a Capitol Hill rally last month in opposition to the Iran deal. He also noted that he found it suspicious that Trump has criticized every other candidate, except for Cruz.

One donor paraphrased George W. Bush's remarks: "He said he found it ‘opportunistic’ that Cruz was sucking up to Trump and just expecting all of his support to come to him in the end.”

Another donor said that “He sort of looks at this like Cruz is doing it all for his own personal gain, and that’s juxtaposed against a family that’s been all about public service and doing it for the right reasons.

"He's frustrated to have watched Cruz basically hijack the Republican Party of Texas and the Republican Party in Washington."

Cruz's campaign initially declined to comment on the former president's remarks, however, a statement from the senator was released Monday night.

“I have great respect for George W. Bush, and was proud to work on his 2000 campaign and in his administration," Cruz said. "It's no surprise that President Bush is supporting his brother and attacking the candidates he believes pose a threat to his campaign. I have no intention of reciprocating. I met my wife Heidi working on his campaign, and so I will always be grateful to him."

However, Politico reports that Freddy Ford, George W. Bush's spokesman, pushed back at the donors' reaction that he views Cruz as his brother's main obstacle in the 15-candidate primary field.

"The first words out of President Bush's mouth last night were that Jeb is going to earn the nomination, win the election, and be a great president," said Ford "He does not view Sen. Cruz as Gov. Bush's most serious rival."

George W. Bush, who now resides in Dallas, has appeared in four fundraising events in less than a month for his brother's campaign, hoping to capitalize on the family legacy and donor network, Poilitico reports.

In an attempt to reward new donors to the Jeb Bush campaign, he will also be appearing along with his father, former President George H.W. Bush at an event in Houston this weekend – an opportunity to see two former presidents and, potentially, a third in the same room.

But despite the 43rd president's recent appearances at events, a donor told Politico that "He emphasized that he’s not going to be out on the campaign trail doing public events."
The donor added, "“He wants to be helpful and supportive like any brother would be. But he said, ‘You’re not going to see a lot of me.’"

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/George-W-Bush-Ted-Cruz/2015/10/20/id/697067/#ixzz3p92qBmI7
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 21, 2015, 07:17:10 AM
the recent polls are very strange...in 2 of them he is in 3rd place nationally, another in 4th, and then 1-2 more where his is 6-7. the other candidates don't have this much inconsistency in the polling results; its hard to make sense of.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
CNN had him at 4% nationally this week.  But they only talked to 485 people... definitely not the 1030 or so which seems to be the standard. 

My guess is that he's 6 to 8% solid.  Dubya Bush certainly sees him at a threat to bush as the scrubs start dropping out and that anti-trump support currently sitting with rand and christie has to go somewhere.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 22, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
CNN had him at 4% nationally this week.  But they only talked to 485 people... definitely not the 1030 or so which seems to be the standard. 

My guess is that he's 6 to 8% solid.  Dubya Bush certainly sees him at a threat to bush as the scrubs start dropping out and that anti-trump support currently sitting with rand and christie has to go somewhere.

along with the dubya statement it was also allegedly said that dubya saw Cruz as the biggest 'threat' to his brother winning...they immediately came out and denied it tho of course  :D
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2015, 09:47:50 AM
Cruz: We're 'one liberal justice' from irreparable damage
Matthew Patane, mpatane@dmreg.com
October 23, 2015
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Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, R-TexasBuy Photo
(Photo: Zach Boyden-Holmes/The Register)

CLARINDA, Ia. – The U.S. is "one justice away" from a liberal Supreme Court causing enough damage for the nation to become unrecognizable, Texas Republican Ted Cruz said Friday.

"One more liberal justice and our right to keep and bear arms is taken away from us by an activist court. One more liberal justice and they begin sandblasting and bulldozing veterans memorials throughout this country. One more liberal justice and we lose our sovereignty to the United Nations and the World Court," Cruz said when responding to how he would treat appointing justices to the court.

Cruz, a U.S. senator and presidential hopeful, has made similar statements earlier in the campaign cycle.

After the Supreme Court made rulings upholding the federal health care law and legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide, Cruz called for Supreme Court justices to face retention elections.

Cruz was in the middle of a five-stop tour Friday through parts of southwest Iowa as he continues to seek his party's presidential nomination. A new Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll released the same day put Cruz in third place in Iowa among likely Republican caucusgoers.

Still, Cruz faces a blockade from neurosurgeon Ben Carson and businessman Donald Trump. Carson took the top spot in the poll and Trump came in second.

Iowa political observers have also noted Cruz has to fend off other competitors – such as former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal – who are competing for similar voters.

Mary-Alice Blake Gilson, who lives in West Des Moines but heard Cruz speak in Atlantic, said she is supporting Jindal. Even so, she said she wanted to see Cruz and other candidates to stay informed.

"In case (Cruz) gets the nomination, then I would liked to have seen him. … I’m big on information," she said.

While registered as a Republican, Blake Gilson said she voted for President Barack Obama in 2008. She later voted for Mitt Romney in the 2012 election, saying she could no longer support Obama.

"I think he lied to us," she said.

In Clarinda, retired farmer Michael Pattavina asked Cruz about his commitment to investigating and defunding Planned Parenthood.

"I think he’s taking it too far because I think Planned Parenthood does more to prevent abortions than all the pro-life (programs) put together," Pattavina said. "I think these women need the program. If you shut them completely down, you’re denying millions of women health care."

A self-described "Bernie Sanders man," Pattavina got into a mini debate with friend Jane Jensen about the merits of Sanders and Cruz.

While Pattavina questioned the trustworthiness of Cruz, Jensen said she didn't want to support a socialist like Sanders.

"He wants to give away the farm and I’m not going to vote for anyone who" wants to do that, said Jensen, who has put Cruz and Carson at the top of her list.

Throughout his stops Friday, Cruz touted his campaign's money haul so far this cycle – $26.5 million – and that his operation has kept a large part of that cash on-hand for future use.

"We have over $3.5 million more in the bank than Jeb Bush does, which, to be honest, is absolutely nuts," Cruz said.

That amount doesn't take into account money held by Super PACs supporting Cruz or the other candidates.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/10/23/cruz-clarinda-atlantic-stops/74404022/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2015, 09:50:03 AM
Cruz: We're 'one liberal justice' from irreparable damage

He's right.  The next prez will probably bring in 2 of them.

In related news,
Vote For Trump If You Want A Liberal Supreme Court

http://redmillennial.com/2015/07/27/vote-for-trump-if-you-want-a-liberal-supreme-court/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 26, 2015, 11:28:00 AM
Announced today he just picked up the backing of several key, major Texas donors...and has the most money on hand of anyone besides bush, 41% of which from small grassroots donors...great news for the campaign
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2015, 12:46:15 PM
Announced today he just picked up the backing of several key, major Texas donors...and has the most money on hand of anyone besides bush, 41% of which from small grassroots donors...great news for the campaign

Cruz is doing everything right.  Just let the idiots scream and make headlines while he continues to gain support/donors in a dignified manner.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on October 26, 2015, 12:51:34 PM
Would love to see Cruz go deep in this race but Trump is a pit bull and unseating him in a one on one situation will prove to be VERY difficult.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on October 26, 2015, 02:10:15 PM
Would love to see Cruz go deep in this race but Trump is a pit bull and unseating him in a one on one situation will prove to be VERY difficult.

yep. NO ONE saw TRUMP coming and no one has any idea how to deal with it. Cruz's planning and execution has been excellent so far but im not sure how he gets around TRUMP.
I like TRUMP, but Cruz is realistically the best man for the job
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on October 26, 2015, 02:15:15 PM
yep. NO ONE saw TRUMP coming and no one has any idea how to deal with it. Cruz's planning and execution has been excellent so far but im not sure how he gets around TRUMP.
I like TRUMP, but Cruz is realistically the best man for the job

Damn good post.

Especially agree with the last part.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2015, 02:19:22 PM
At this point, I think Cruz, Rubio, Carson, and Bush will probably be the last men standing when Trump quits.

Bush is looking pretty bad right now, and I hope he loses, but he has too much money to write off just yet.     
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2015, 02:51:11 PM
yep. NO ONE saw TRUMP coming and no one has any idea how to deal with it. C

I did.   I said it on getbig in 2011... Trump is a DEM PLANT designed to shit on the GOP field and create chaos and serve dem goals.  

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=405026.msg5776890#msg5776890
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Cruz’s quiet fundraising strength: A network of wealthy donors
 
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Republican candidate Ted Cruz is finding support among constitutionalists, religious conservatives, and oil and gas executives, campaign finance filings and fundraising invitations show. (Brandon Wade/AP)
By Katie Zezima and Matea Gold
October 26, 2015 

Wealthy investors shot skeet with Sen. Ted Cruz in Park City, Utah, earlier this month. Conservative lawyers gathered in a clubby Washington restaurant last week to raise money for his presidential bid. And on Monday, billionaire technology entrepreneur Darwin Deason and five other wealthy Texans announced that they were coming aboard his campaign.

For all his bashing of “billionaire Republican donors” who “actively despise our base,” the anti-establishment senator from Texas is being bolstered by his own robust base of wealthy contributors. Cruz raised $5.2 million through the end of September from supporters who gave him the $2,700 maximum — making him No. 2 in the GOP race for large donors, after former Florida governor Jeb Bush, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Campaign Finance Institute.

Cruz’s un­or­tho­dox campaign has hit on a fundraising formula that no other candidate has been able to match: raising millions from a robust base of grass-roots supporters while building a substantial network of rich backers.

The senator’s quiet fundraising prowess — he has collected $26.5 million to date — could help give him staying power in what is sure to be a hard-fought battle for the GOP nomination. The structure of his donor base closely resembles that of President Obama, whose vaunted fundraising operation intensely focused on low-dollar givers as well as major bundlers, bringing in a record $783 million for his 2012 reelection.

Cruz has had trouble making inroads in New York financial circles or on Florida’s donor-rich Gold Coast. But he is finding support among like-minded constitutionalists, religious conservatives, and oil and gas executives, campaign finance filings and fundraising invitations show.

“A lot of Wall Street is out of touch with mainstream America,” Cruz’s wife, Heidi — who is on leave from her job as a managing director at Goldman Sachs and is one of his most prolific fundraisers — said recently. “That’s not our funding base.”

[Heidi Cruz trying to close her biggest deal: Making her husband president]

The senator is a different person in private fundraisers than out on the campaign trail, according to people who have observed the dynamic. He doesn’t back away from his hard-line positions, but he quickly moves past them, trying to present a restrained, Harvard-educated lawyer.

“People are swayed by his intellect,” said Mica Mosbacher, a Houston fundraiser helping organize events for Cruz across the country. “He always says, ‘Ask me all the hard questions.’ And he is very polite and humble. I think the firebrand you see [in public] is his passion getting ahead of him. Those who are supporting him admire that he will stand up for what’s right.”

A Republican strategist well connected to the donor world added: “When he’s with major donors, they expect the guy they see with all the red meat, but they instead see an intelligent, buttoned-down lawyer with real bona fides. He will say things like, basically, ‘This is politics — you’ve got go out there and sell and perform.’ ”

At a recent fundraiser in New York, Cruz made the case that he is the candidate to unite a fractious Republican Party, arguing that he can energize evangelicals, tea partyers, military hawks and fiscal conservatives.

“His feeling — and I agree with him — is that you cannot make one segment love you and another segment hate you,” said venture capitalist Ken Abramowitz, who hosted the gathering. “He stressed that he would appeal to all the segments but still maintain his message.”

Shmuley Boteach, a New Jersey rabbi and former congressional candidate, has been introducing Cruz to members of the Jewish community in New York and Los Angeles. Boteach said Cruz is diplomatic when it comes to hot-button issues — such as the time Boteach told the senator he has a gay brother and doesn’t think he should speak so stridently against same-sex marriage.

“He’ll respond very respectfully and say, ‘Okay, Shmuley, we respectfully disagree,’ ” Boteach said. “I do not find him dogmatic about it. . . . When you get to know the guy, he’s measured. This is a Princeton, Harvard graduate.”

It’s a different scene on the campaign trail, where Cruz’s fiery jabs have helped him amass a large pool of enthusiastic small donors. By the end of September, he had raised the second-largest amount in low-dollar contributions among the GOP field: $9.9 million to retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson’s $18.2 million.

[The 2016 money race]

Overall, Cruz has the most balanced mix of donors among all the Republican hopefuls. Of the $24.5 million he has raised for the primary race, 40 percent has come from contributors who have given him $200 or less, 25 percent from those who have given $201 to $999, 13 percent from those who have given $1,000 to $2,699, and 21 percent from those who have given the $2,700 maximum, according to the Campaign Finance Institute.

Obama, by comparison, raised 28 percent of his 2012 donations from people who gave $200 or less and 22 percent from max-out donors.

It remains to be seen whether Cruz, who is hovering around 8 percent in national polls, will gain enough momentum to scale donations up as dramatically as Obama did in his campaigns.

Cruz has long said that his successful 2012 Senate run (and now his presidential bid) attempted to emulate Obama’s 2008 election tactics. Cruz gave Senate campaign staffers a copy of “The Audacity to Win,” a book written by Obama’s 2008 campaign manager, David Plouffe.

“When it comes to fundraising, I think one of the greatest surprises, from the perspective of the Washington chattering class, has been the incredible, astonishing fundraising that this campaign has benefited from,” Cruz said Monday in Houston, where he announced that six wealthy supporters of former Texas governor Rick Perry are now backing him.

Among them were Deason, who gave $5 million to a pro-Perry super PAC in June, and Dallas tax consultant G. Brint Ryan, who donated $250,000. Such high-capacity supporters could inject huge sums into a group of super PACs supporting Cruz, which reported raising $38 million by the end of June.

Campaign finance filings show that more than half of Cruz’s max-out donations are coming from his home state, Texas, where he is methodically bringing longtime backers of Perry and the Bush family into his fundraising network.

[Ted Cruz reports $13.8 million cash on hand — at or near the top of the GOP field]

Houston real estate developer Welcome Wilson Sr. was supporting Perry until he dropped out of the race. He has close ties to the Bush family — his son Welcome Wilson Jr. went to school with Jeb Bush — but said he was convinced that the senator from Texas could best capture the imagination of the voters now considering Donald Trump.

“Their support comes from the same type of people — the people who want a change,” Wilson said.

Mosbacher, whose late husband, Robert Mosbacher, served as commerce secretary under George H.W. Bush, considers herself more of an “establishment type.” She decided to back Cruz because she is convinced that he can win.

Cruz’s wife, Heidi, has also been a key asset, said Mosbacher, pinch-hitting at fundraisers when her husband gets stuck in Washington. At one recent breakfast in Houston, she was so effective that she won over attendees who had not yet committed to the campaign.

“I was very surprised who wrote checks,” Mosbacher said. “They weren’t sure about Ted Cruz until they met Heidi.”

Heidi Cruz has said she made 600 fundraising calls in the second quarter, typically reaching 20 to 25 people a day.

“I don’t want to say it’s easy, and I don’t close every deal,” she said last month. “I think people want to be a part of something that addresses the main issue of the day, number one, which is Washington versus the people.”

She has even been reaching out to bundlers who are already backing other candidates. Andrew Sabin, a Jeb Bush supporter who has had the Cruz family to his Long Island home and supported Cruz’s Senate campaign, said she gave him a call this month.

“I love his wife,” Sabin said — but he told Heidi Cruz that he is “100 percent” with Bush.

Others are coming over. Chart Westcott, a Dallas biotech investor, switched his allegiance to Cruz after his first choice, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, dropped out of the race.

Westcott, who supported Cruz’s Senate bid, said he was pleased to hear the granular details of how Cruz’s team is playing the long game and placing a “laserlike” focus on amassing delegates, a pitch that campaign officials also made at the recent donor retreat in Park City.

[For some candidates, the path to the White House runs through paradise]

Westcott is also impressed by Cruz’s ability to draw in both large- and small-dollar donors.

“I think when you look at the financial shape of all the campaigns,” Westcott said, “Cruz has proven himself to be a powerhouse on both sides of the ledger.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruzs-secret-fundraising-strength-a-network-of-wealthy-donors/2015/10/26/d170532e-7c0b-11e5-beba-927fd8634498_story.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on November 09, 2015, 03:15:41 PM
Ted Cruz gets no love from GOP establishment, and he's fine with that
Published November 09, 2015
Fox News Latino
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In this Oct. 28, 2015, photo, Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz, r-Texas, talks about the mainstream media during the CNBC Republican presidential debate at the University of Colorado in Boulder, Colo. Cruz says the U.S. adopt a European-style value added tax, adding to a division in the Republican presidential field. Some simply want to cut existing tax rates. But Cruz is among those who suggests scrapping the nations tax code entirely and starting from scratch. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)

George W. Bush practically gagged when he spoke of fellow Texan Sen. Ted Cruz.

“I just don’t like the guy,” Bush said at a recent fundraiser for his brother and presidential candidate Jeb Bush.

Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican who tends to be mild-mannered, famously condemned Cruz a “wacko bird.”

Rep. John Boehner, the former House speaker, stunned people at a fundraiser when he referred to Cruz as “that jackass.”

Cruz hardly was concerned about getting under the skin of these GOP elder statesmen. In fact, each expression of hostility toward him is a feather in his political cap.

Cruz has sought to distinguish himself in Congress by carrying – proudly and loudly – the anti-GOP-establishment torch, notes the Washington Post.

And if someone happens to miss the insults hurled at Cruz the first time around, the first-term senator makes sure to publicize them himself through press releases and media ads.

Of Boehner’s “jackass” remark, Cruz’s campaign later sent out a quote by the senator that said: “I will wear it as a badge of honor because I refuse to join their club.”

Cruz long has courted tea party and other conservative groups that have nothing short of disdain for Republicans they view as part of the Washington D.C. political status quo.

“I will acknowledge that when I’m in the Senate dining room I’ve sometimes wondered if I need a food taster,” the Post quoted Cruz as saying at a campaign stop in Iowa. “If you ain’t never stood up to Washington, at any time in your life, you’re not gonna suddenly discover the courage to do so if you happen to land at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.”

If Cruz has been measured in something, it’s been in avoiding criticism of rival presidential contender Donald Trump.

Not only has Cruz resisted demands by Latino groups and others to condemn statements Trump has made about Mexican immigrants, describing them as including many criminals, but he’s invited the real estate mogul to visit the U.S.-Mexico border with him and to join him at a tea party rally on Capitol Hill to protest the Iran nuclear deal.

Some see Cruz’s actions as opportunistic. Many observers theorize that he hopes to gain Trump’s supporters – many of whom applaud the mogul’s rejection of party protocol and Washington D.C.’s business-as-usual – if the billionaire drops out of the race at some point.

“There’s not a lot of love lost for the guy,” said Josh Holmes, a former chief of staff to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.), in an interview with the Post. “And it’s not what he’s trying to accomplish or what he says he’s trying to accomplish that bothers people.”

“It’s that he’s consistently sacrificed the mutual goals of many for his personal enhancement.”

His supporters say he’s the real deal.

“He’s hated by the political establishment,” said Chart Westcott, a Dallas biotech investor and Cruz donor, said to the Post. “He’s got that original outsider status, and that’s what I love and has made him attractive to so many swaths of Americans.”

Karl Rove, who was a top adviser in the George W. Bush administration, says the former president recently expressed disgust over Cruz because the senator turned on him for political gain after Bush had him be part of his 2000 presidential campaign.

Cruz has taken aim at the Bush family in his campaign. He has attacked George W. for appointing John Roberts, whom Cruz once expressed support for, chief justice of the Supreme Court, and his father George H.W. Bush for appointing David Souter.

Rove said George W. Bush saw the attacks as “a little opportunistic.”

Cruz vexed many fellow Republicans by refusing to back down from stances that at times have backfired, putting a stain on the entire GOP.

In 2013, he led the fight to defund Obamacare, resulting in a standoff in Congress that led to a government shutdown.

Catherine Frazier, a Cruz spokeswoman, told the Post that Cruz has “a record of effectiveness.”

“These people keep shooting arrows at him, trying to take him out, and he’s not going anywhere,” she said.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2015/11/09/ted-cruz-gets-no-love-from-gop-establishment-and-fine-with-that/?intcmp=hpbt1
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on November 17, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
Rep. Steve King Endorses Ted Cruz: 'Answer to My Prayers'
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=a8333f7d-a6ce-4039-af75-ad51f2bbfa0f&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Rep. Steve King Endorses Ted Cruz: 'Answer to My Prayers'  (Photo by Joe Raedle/Getty Images) 
By Joe Schaeffer   
Monday, 16 Nov 2015

Conservative Iowa Rep. Steve King has endorsed Ted Cruz for president, saying the Texas senator is "the answer to my prayers."

"I do believe that Ted Cruz is the full package, the constitutional conservative that can restore the soul of America," King said at a press conference in Des Moines Monday, ABC News reports.

King said he made his decision after a Friday visit to Europe, where, "I saw the erosion of the culture ... because of the colossal cultural suicide they're committing," ABC News reports.

"Our nation is sick and getting sicker," King said in a press release, stating that the unity of America has been ripped apart by the Obama administration over the past seven years, Breitbart reports.

"We need a president who is pro-life, pro-marriage, a constitutional originalist, who will make judicial appointments of judges to the Supreme Court and all federal courts who believe the Constitution means what is says and means what it was understood to mean when ratified," King said in the release.

He also spoke out strongly about the need for securing the nation's borders.

"We need a president who will build a fence, a wall, and a fence to finally secure all of our southern border and who will instill the will in a new administration to enforce laws passed by Congress," King said, Breitbart reports.

Yet despite the fact that GOP front-runner Donald Trump has been the most strident advocate for building a wall at the southern border, King instead chose to endorse Cruz.

When asked why, he replied:

"It's going to be harder for either [he or fellow outsider candidate Ben Carson] to see what's going on in Washington, D.C., in K street, in the network," ABC News reports him saying at the press conference in Des Moines.

"What's going on in the House and Senate and how does that get leveraged from the executive branch. I don't hear either one of them talking about the balance of powers between the executive, the legislative and the judicial branches of government. And I don't hear them talking about Supreme Court appointments."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/steve-king-ted-cruz-endorsement-gop/2015/11/16/id/702382/#ixzz3rnHYDbkm
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 17, 2015, 04:21:42 PM
Cruz looks like a grownup.   Rubio is a teenager.   Trump and carson are freakin' children.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on November 17, 2015, 04:46:26 PM
With the recent hiccup of Carson in the polls and Rubio taking some criticism for not being far enough to the right, the potential for a Trump vs. Cruz dog fight going down the stretch is looking more and more possible.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on November 17, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
With the recent hiccup of Carson in the polls and Rubio taking some criticism for not being far enough to the right, the potential for a Trump vs. Cruz dog fight going down the stretch is looking more and more possible.

cruz has a ton of $.   Trump has more (if he uses his own).  Trump threatened to start attacking cruz this week if needed.

it's insane that a liberal like trump is leading GOp polls.  maddening.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 09, 2015, 02:24:47 PM
Pollster Zogby: Cruz Control of New Iowa Poll Doesn't Surprise Me
By Bill Hoffmann    
Monday, 07 Dec 2015

The meteoric rise of Sen. Ted Cruz to front-runner among voters in the upcoming Iowa presidential caucuses shouldn't be a surprise to anybody, veteran pollster John Zogby tells Newsmax TV.

"[It's] totally predictable. He's got a focused message, he appears very strong," Zogby, CEO of Zogby Analytics, said Monday on "Newsmax Prime" with J.D. Hayworth.

"He appeals to both the tea party and the Christian conservatives."

In a new poll released by Monmouth University, Cruz, a Texas Republican, sailed past Donald Trump and Ben Carson in Iowa to become the front-runner in the intensifying race for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination.

Monmouth said Carson had the steepest decline of any candidate, plummeting 19 points from a poll two months ago that had him as the front-runner in the Hawkeye State which will hold its GOP caucuses in February.

Zogby told Hayworth that Cruz is the beneficiary of the former top candidates starting to lose steam.

"As we figured from the beginning, once Trump begins to fade and Carson begins to fade, those votes are going to go to Ted Cruz and it looks like they are right now," Zogby said.

But Cruz isn't a shoo-in by any stretch of the imagination, according to the pollster.
"He's got to worry about not peaking too soon," Zogby said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/john-zogby-ted-cruz-polling-iowa/2015/12/07/id/704889/#ixzz3trgpfVbN
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 10, 2015, 07:48:54 AM
Cruz has a real shot but if the other candidates don't start dropping out soon, TRUMP is gonna walk away with it. the only way he can beat TRUMP is if its between TRUMP and him, in which case the consolidated support of others can boost him to TRUMP's level or higher.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 10, 2015, 07:57:11 AM
Cruz has a real shot but if the other candidates don't start dropping out soon, TRUMP is gonna walk away with it. the only way he can beat TRUMP is if its between TRUMP and him, in which case the consolidated support of others can boost him to TRUMP's level or higher.

Trump has more widespread appeal than this guy, I think, and would stand a chance to beat Hillary.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 10, 2015, 07:58:08 AM
But Cruz > Rubio, fwiw
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 10, 2015, 08:02:14 AM
Was looking at a pic LNM posted, showing the three or so people at a Fiorina appearance in Iowa, and I found something interesting from a few months back.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/carly-fiorinas-campaign-is-being-funded-with-ted-cruzs-money/22546/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 10, 2015, 08:15:47 AM
Little more from the Washington Post, couple months ago.

FEC also confused why a Ted Cruz super PAC is donating to Carly Fiorina

By Colby Itkowitz September 17

Long before Carly Fiorina was this month’s “it” candidate, a super PAC backing Ted Cruz was hedging its bets on her.

People were left scratching their heads in July when Keep the Promise 1, one of a conglomerate of super PACs funded by deep-pocketed Cruz supporters (the others are cleverly named Keep the Promise PAC, Keep the Promise II and Keep the Promise III; don’t strain yourself, guys), revealed in its financial disclosures a $500,000 donation to Fiorina’s campaign.

Keep the Promise 1 had a healthy $10 million on hand from a $11 million donation from hedge fund CEO Robert Mercer as of the end of June. But it only spent $536,169. A little for legal services. A little for surveys. And a whole lot for Fiorina.

Even the Federal Election Commission is perplexed. The super PAC was (purposely?) vague about the donation, describing it on its FEC filing as “other disbursement.”

So, the FEC, as it does, sent a letter Wednesday asking for “a brief statement or description of why each disbursement was made.”

Something like: Well, just in case…

The donation to Fiorina was made June 18, which shows tremendous foresight. Fiorina was barely registering then, not yet revealed as the scrappy underdog with killer debate skills. And Donald Trump had yet to steal most of Cruz’s disenchanted voters.

The super PAC’s treasurer Jacquelyn James did not respond to our request for comment. Maybe the FEC will have better luck.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 10, 2015, 08:17:18 AM
How nice that the hedge-fund CEO wants to "Keep the Promise" to America.  Makes my heart warm.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 10, 2015, 09:54:14 AM
Was looking at a pic LNM posted, showing the three or so people at a Fiorina appearance in Iowa, and I found something interesting from a few months back.

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/carly-fiorinas-campaign-is-being-funded-with-ted-cruzs-money/22546/


I posted about this during the summer.  Cruz superpac gave 500k to carly superpac.   Fishy.... ;)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 10, 2015, 10:42:27 AM
I posted about this during the summer.  Cruz superpac gave 500k to carly superpac.   Fishy.... ;)

Here's that pic

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=588069.0;attach=661566;image)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 10, 2015, 07:47:19 PM
Cruz has a real shot but if the other candidates don't start dropping out soon, TRUMP is gonna walk away with it. the only way he can beat TRUMP is if its between TRUMP and him, in which case the consolidated support of others can boost him to TRUMP's level or higher.

Don't you think it's a little early to start declaring any candidate unbeatable?  I made a mistake overestimating how strong Hillary was going to be.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 11, 2015, 06:39:24 AM
Don't you think it's a little early to start declaring any candidate unbeatable?  I made a mistake overestimating how strong Hillary was going to be.

no one is unbeatable at this point(other than Hillary getting the Dem nom), but clearly, it will be either TRUMP, Cruz, or Rubio that gets the nom on their side, and right now TRUMP is clearly winning big. he is certainly not unbeatable, but as long as the field stays so big and the non-TRUMP votes are so split up, no one else has been able to consolidate nearly enough support to match him
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2015, 09:46:46 AM
no one is unbeatable at this point(other than Hillary getting the Dem nom), but clearly, it will be either TRUMP, Cruz, or Rubio that gets the nom on their side, and right now TRUMP is clearly winning big. he is certainly not unbeatable, but as long as the field stays so big and the non-TRUMP votes are so split up, no one else has been able to consolidate nearly enough support to match him

Well technically he isn't winning anything yet.  Not till people actually start voting. 

That said, I agree that it is a "win" in one respect for him to be leading in the polls for such an extended period of time, despite not really laying out substantive plans, making repeated disgraceful comments without repercussions, etc.   

Let's see what happens in the first few states. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 11, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
Ted Cruz close to winning Tony Perkins endorsement
By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
Fri December 11, 2015 | Video Source: CNN

(CNN)Ted Cruz has successfully courted Bob Vander Platts, Iowa's main Christian powerbroker, winning his endorsement Thursday that was sought feverishly by about half the Republican field. Now, Cruz in closing in on winning the backing of another top social conservative networker: Tony Perkins.

"There's clearly movement going toward Ted, and I think he's making all the right moves," Perkins told CNN Thursday. "But from a timing standpoint, I'm still watching, waiting."

Perkins, who heads the Family Research Council, sits at the top of a pair of sprawling social conservative networks, the Conservative Action Project and the Council for National Policy, that are the hidden hub of the forces looking to push the Republican Party further right.

He's also very controversial. The former Louisiana state representative has attracted scrutiny, implying a connection between pedophilia and homosexuality and making critical comments about Islam. The Southern Poverty Law Center labeled his organization a "hate group," a term the FRC sees as "reckless."

"Perkins' xenophobic and irresponsible spew has no place in American democracy but that won't stop Ted Cruz from chasing after his credentials -- in fact it's hard to tell which of them is more reckless, hateful or extreme," said Adrienne Watson, a spokesman for the Hillary Clinton-aligned super PAC Correct the Record.

Cruz's campaign has theorized that wooing the grasstops will pay off with the grassroots, and targeted more than 400 of the evangelical movement's top leaders. With activist networks quick to follow their example, the field generals can train their men to vote for candidates like Cruz in Iowa and South Carolina, the two states where the Texan thinks his profile will play well with their large born-again Christian bases.

"We will be going all-in for Sen. Ted Cruz," Vander Plaats said at a press conference Thursday. "We have found him as a man of deep character. A man that we can fully trust, who has a consistency of convictions, who loves his god, loves his spouse, and who loves his family."

Vander Plaats is key for Iowa, but Perkins could be more helpful nationally, as leaders of the professional conservative apparatus jump at the chance to energize Cruz's surging campaign.

Over dinners and phone calls, Perkins has become one of Cruz's few defenders in a city that harbors significant ill-will for his scorched-earth Republicanism. It's not just policy: Cruz looks to Perkins for political counsel as well, and the pair talks a few times a month about the campaign or the social conservative agenda.

"It's one thing to get an endorsement from a megachurch," said Rep. Mark Sanford before he introduced Cruz in his South Carolina district last month. But, "in as much as there is a such thing as mainstream Christian evangelical, I would suspect he represents it."

Perkins, officially, remains uncommitted. But as he stood on the stage Cruz last month at Bob Jones University, it was difficult for him to hide his affection. Perkins acknowledges that -- in a field full of social conservatives who Perkins see as allies -- he has had a special relationship with one of them.

"All these guys are my friends and someone's going to get their feelings hurt," Perkins said at the time. "You get a lot of guys who say they want your help when you're running, and then they forget about you when you get there. Ted was not that way."

The chances of endorsing Cruz were bolstered when Perkins' close friend from their days in Louisiana, Bobby Jindal, dropped out of the race. And he doesn't talk about any other candidate nearly as glowingly.

Even with Vander Plaats and Perkins in his corner, Cruz's efforts to consolidate the evangelical vote is far from complete in a field here a half-dozen Republicans can claim the mantle of the religious right. But Monday's CNN/ORC poll found in Iowa that more evangelicals backed Cruz than any other candidate, and Perkins could help get more.

"He has a long reach, no doubt about it," said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio group Citizens for Community Values.

Ted Cruz, under attack, defends ending bulk data collection

Cruz has quietly cultivated networks like these. When Cruz managed to hear of Burress' little-known powwow of Ohio Christians, the presidential candidate was the only one to cut a video and send it along, Burress said.

"Thank you, friends, for everything you're doing. Thank you Phil Burress," Cruz told the crowd in a five-minute video shared with CNN. "The sleeping giant is stirring."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/politics/ted-cruz-tony-perkins-evangelical/index.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 14, 2015, 09:26:47 AM
Podesta to donors: Cruz is likely GOP nominee
By GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI 12/12/15

Donald Trump's apparent belief that the Republican primary contest is now a two-person race between himself and Ted Cruz isn't exactly shared at the top of Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta handicapped the GOP race for 90 Democratic donors assembled at a private fundraising event in Berkeley, California, on Thursday night, according to a Clinton backer who was in the room, telling the crowd that he viewed Cruz as the likeliest nominee, followed by Trump, and then Marco Rubio.

Podesta's remarks — which he made sure to say represent his own views, not an official campaign position — came after the real-estate magnate proposed a blanket ban on Muslims entering the United States, and Podesta suggested that the resulting surge of attention being paid to Trump didn't change his belief that Cruz was the likeliest pick.

But he did confirm that the Democratic front-runner's recent moves to use Trump's remarks as an anchor to drag down the rest of the Republican Party was a concerted political strategy — and that the donors shouldn't expect the strategy to go away anytime soon.

The crux of that argument is not that the other candidates are afraid to criticize Trump, Podesta told the donors: it's that they agree with him.

The top-ranking official on Clinton's team, Podesta has mostly stayed away from the public eye during the campaign apart from the occasional television interview, instead keeping his focus on private events. Thursday night's fundraiser was closed to reporters, like all of Clinton's campaign cash events.
But it landed amid the race's most controversial week yet, when the Democratic frontrunner's strategy for dealing with Trump took on added urgency.
And it came while the team is hurtling toward the end of the fundraising quarter and its goal of raising $100 million for the primary before 2016 — while donors are increasingly curious about the Brooklyn-based campaign's tactics.

Clinton aides like campaign manager Robby Mook, policy staffer Jake Sullivan, and surrogate outreach aide Michelle Kwan — the former figure skater — have all headlined recent fundraising events, as has former President Bill Clinton.

And top surrogates have also stepped up their own presence on the money trail: longtime Clinton friend and strategist James Carville has become an active campaign fundraiser, while New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is set to host an event in London on Dec. 29.

Even Podesta has been raising money in increasingly unexpected ways this month: the campaign has recently advertised to donors the chance to join him at a cooking event with Sarah Schafer, the executive chef of Irving Street Kitchen in Portland, Oregon, last Wednesday night, and at another similar confab with Marcus Samuelsson, the chef and owner of Harlem restaurant Red Rooster, in Brooklyn on Monday.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/podesta-cruz-is-likely-gop-nominee-216713#ixzz3uJiIZhZ5
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 17, 2015, 05:42:36 PM
Cruz tripped up on immigration issue.  Said in 2013 he wanted "Immigration Reform" to get through.  Now making it to news.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Leatherneck on December 17, 2015, 05:46:30 PM
Cruz tripped up on immigration issue.  Said in 2013 he wanted "Immigration Reform" to get through.  Now making it to news.
If this picks up any steam it could be a stumbling block.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 17, 2015, 05:56:33 PM
If this picks up any steam it could be a stumbling block.

Will look into it more, tomorrow, and post what's up with it.

The guy has always seemed like he'd turn without pause on that issue.  Maybe I'm wrong about that, and I hope so, but that's what it is.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 17, 2015, 06:00:41 PM
Will look into it more, tomorrow, and post what's up with it.

The guy has always seemed like he'd turn without pause on that issue.  Maybe I'm wrong about that, and I hope so, but that's what it is.


Posted it here:

This is the first time I've ever seen Cruz ruffled.  Didn't look so good here. 

Fox News anchor confronts Cruz with 2013 remarks on immigration reform
By Elliot Smilowitz
December 16, 2015

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) on Wednesday squared off with Fox News anchor Bret Baier over comments Cruz made in 2013 as the Senate considered an immigration reform bill.
 
Baier began the interview by repeating what Cruz said on the subject during Tuesday’s GOP presidential debate: “I’ve never supported legalization, I do not intend to support it.”

The anchor then played a speech Cruz made in 2013 promoting his amendment to an immigration reform measure in which he called on “people of good faith on both sides of the aisle” to pass a bill “that allows those that are here illegally to come in out of the shadows.”
 
Asked to respond to the clip, Cruz said his amendment would “remove citizenship.”
 
“The fact that I introduced an amendment to remove part of the Gang of Eight bill doesn’t mean I support the rest of the Gang of Eight bill,” he added.
 
But Baier replied with a series of statements Cruz made in 2013 that indicated he wanted the rest of the bill to pass. He quoted the Texas Republican calling the legislation “the compromise that can pass” and saying “if my amendment were adopted, this bill would pass.”
 
Cruz stammered in his response, saying that “of course I wanted my amendment to pass. ... It doesn’t mean I supported other aspects of the bill.”
 
In an attempt to prove his amendment wasn’t a tacit endorsement of the rest of the bill, Cruz cited the fact that Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) voted with him.
 
“The problem, though, is that at the time you were telling people ... this was not a poison pill,” Baier said in response. “You said you wanted it to pass at the time. Looking back at what you said then, and what you said now, which one should people believe?”
 
Cruz told Baier his amendment “illustrated hypocrisy of the Democrats” and “succeeded in defeating” the bill, as the interview wrapped up.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/263544-fox-news-anchor-confronts-cruz-with-2013-remarks-on-immigration


Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 17, 2015, 06:18:25 PM
^ That doesn't look good.  The guy is a flake, IOW.  Just another flake.

240?

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 17, 2015, 11:04:50 PM
^ That doesn't look good.  The guy is a flake, IOW.  Just another flake.
240?

EVERY candidate in the 2016 Repub nomination race has supported immigration for illegals, amnesty/forgiving their being here, to some degree.

Cruz flirted with it very little 2 years ago in a FOX interview.
Rubio sponsored legislation on it.
Trump supported it on july 27 of THIS YEAR.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 18, 2015, 01:54:03 PM
Cruz picks up top evangelical endorsement
By Bradford Richardson
December 17, 2015
(http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/blogs/tedcruz211-13-15.jpg?itok=I95bRxou)

The founder of the social conservative advocacy group Focus on the Family has endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) for president.

Christian radio host James Dobson said on Thursday that Cruz is the best candidate in the Republican primary field when it comes to religious liberty and preserving the traditional definition of marriage.

“Ted Cruz’s record on religious liberty, life, and marriage is second to none in this Republican field,” Dobson said in a statement released by the Cruz campaign. “I have met with the senator on multiple occasions: he is brilliant, articulate, and informed.”

“Shirley and I have been praying for a leader such as this, and we are confident that Ted Cruz has the moral and spiritual foundations to lead our nation with excellence,” he added.

“Speaking as private individuals, we urge conservatives and people of faith to join us in supporting his race for the presidency.”

Cruz has accumulated a significant evangelical backing in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

Last week, the conservative firebrand won the endorsement of Bob Vander Plaats, an influential Christian leader in Iowa.
A Des Moines Register/Bloomberg poll last week found Cruz with a 10-point lead in the Iowa caucuses, spearheaded by 45 percent of the evangelical vote.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/263634-cruz-picks-up-top-evangelical-endorsement
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 18, 2015, 05:16:10 PM
EVERY candidate in the 2016 Repub nomination race has supported immigration for illegals, amnesty/forgiving their being here, to some degree.

Cruz flirted with it very little 2 years ago in a FOX interview.
Rubio sponsored legislation on it.
Trump supported it on july 27 of THIS YEAR.

Somehow I knew it with Cruz.  Not sure how, but I did.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 19, 2015, 05:53:26 AM
Somehow I knew it with Cruz.  Not sure how, but I did.

it was right after reince priebus ordered everyone in the party to fall in line and support it.  remember hannity's on-air reversal?

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on December 19, 2015, 07:15:35 AM
The Establishment hates Trump but they fear Cruz, and now that their boy Bush has faded they are now pushing Rubio and in doing so are trying to bring down Cruz with this.

The truth is Ted Cruz has never supported Amnesty, citizenship or legalization of illegals in any form and has fought hard against it.

The Gang of Eight Bill that Chuck Schumer, Marco Rubio, John McCain and others were pushing was being sold as a border enforcement bill and down playing that it was truly a amnesty Bill (citizenship for illegals).  Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Jeff Sessions called their bluff by putting forward amendments that removed citizenship from the the gang of 8 Bill, knowing that the gang of either would not go for it, in essence a poison pill to bring down the entire Bill.

Video:
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/video/uncut-video-sen-ted-cruz-obama-hillary-dems-out-of-touch-with-american-people/

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 19, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
Cruz flirted with it when the GOP was ordering everyone to fall in line, but never legislatively did SHIT to push amnesty.

Rubio authored and pushed the obama/schumer amnesty Dream act.  Rubio is a piece of shit on letting the illegals stay.  Cruz never did anything to let them stay, other than flirt with it a little in interview 2 years ago.   Trump and Carson are LONGTIME amnesty supporters that recently magically changed positions.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: whork on December 19, 2015, 02:01:52 PM
The Establishment hates Trump but they fear Cruz, and now that their boy Bush has faded they are now pushing Rubio and in doing so are trying to bring down Cruz with this.

The truth is Ted Cruz has never supported Amnesty, citizenship or legalization of illegals in any form and has fought hard against it.

The Gang of Eight Bill that Chuck Schumer, Marco Rubio, John McCain and others were pushing was being sold as a border enforcement bill and down playing that it was truly a amnesty Bill (citizenship for illegals).  Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and Jeff Sessions called their bluff by putting forward amendments that removed citizenship from the the gang of 8 Bill, knowing that the gang of either would not go for it, in essence a poison pill to bring down the entire Bill.

Video:
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/video/uncut-video-sen-ted-cruz-obama-hillary-dems-out-of-touch-with-american-people/



https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00033085

His donors include Goldman Sachs. WTF are you talking about?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on December 21, 2015, 07:24:46 AM
Defiant Jeff Sessions on Gang of 8: Every Step of the Way, Ted Cruz Was By My Side


DAPHNE, AL : An emphatic Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)80% is dismissing the claim that presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%was a backer of the 2013 immigration reform effort by the so-called "Gang of Eight." Sessions, a hometown favorite at a Saturday rally here, told attendees Cruz had opposed the effort the entire way and cited the Texas senator's voting record as evidence.

"One of the things you've been hearing about somehow is a criticism of Ted and how he and what he did with regard to this massive that they tried to ram through in 2013," Sessions said. "Let me tell you, I was there. Every step of the way, Ted Cruz was on my side and fought this legislation all the way through."

"I'm just flabbergasted," he continued.

Don't they know how he voted? So let just tell you a few things just to recall , people need to remember this because this election is going to decide if the crowd that pushed that bill , are they in the White House and will they be able to continue their agenda? Or will somebody else be there who will say no? (Snip)

"The people spoke and the Congress finally , although it was dicey for a while , responded," he added. (Snip)

The 2013 "Gang of Eight" bill never gained traction in the House of Representatives after passage in the Senate, to which Sessions credited Cruz's opposition.

"I think I can say this with integrity and good judgement: I believe without the vigorous opposition of Ted Cruz, this bill likely would have passed," Sessions said. "So we need to thank him."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/19/defiant-jeff-sessions-on-gang-of-eight-every-step-of-the-way-ted-cruz-was-on-my-side/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 21, 2015, 07:30:14 AM
Cruz is the man. 

Nra, nbc, and these fake ass rinos need to abandon the love affair with trumps celebrity.   They'll be kicking themselves when trump destroys the scotus with 2 or 3 highly liberal choices. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on December 21, 2015, 12:44:32 PM
The Sessions-Cruz Video Fox News Doesn’t Want You to See


Jeff Sessions: Ted Cruz was on my side to defeat the Gang of Eight amnesty bill

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 21, 2015, 01:04:43 PM
thought the bros here could appreciate this   ;D
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/19/cruz-spoof-christmas-infomercial-iowa-during-snl/77646990/
 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/19/cruz-spoof-christmas-infomercial-iowa-during-snl/77646990/)

LMFAO

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2015, 01:15:53 PM
thought the bros here could appreciate this   ;D
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/19/cruz-spoof-christmas-infomercial-iowa-during-snl/77646990/
 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2015/12/19/cruz-spoof-christmas-infomercial-iowa-during-snl/77646990/)

LMFAO



That's pretty funny, but not a good idea to use his kids (assuming those are his kids and not actors). 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 21, 2015, 02:19:38 PM
yea id leave out the kids speaking part but the rest is hilarious...what a crazy campaign season this is
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2015, 02:21:29 PM
Talk radio rallies around Ted Cruz
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As Trump and Rubio attack, the 2016 contender’s right-wing friends circle the wagons.
By Hadas Gold
12/22/15

Conservative talk radio likes to flirt with Donald Trump, but its hosts are showing their commitment to Ted Cruz.

With a month left until the Iowa caucuses, attacks on the ascendant 2016 contender have nudged his talk radio supporters back into line, pushing them to throw their valuable support behind the candidate they want to win rather than the one who assures a strong audience.
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And with tens of millions of listeners — and a large slice of likely GOP primary voters — at stake, the backing of these right-wing opinion-makers is significant. Their preference for Cruz, in fact, suggests the upswing in his standing in Iowa and national polls has some durability.

“He’s my guy. I like Ted Cruz a lot,” said Glenn Beck on Fox News last week. The host, who has been an avowed Cruz supporter for years, boasts about 7 million listeners a week, according to industry magazine Talkers.

Conservative talk radio likes to flirt with Donald Trump, but its hosts are showing their commitment to Ted Cruz.

With a month left until the Iowa caucuses, attacks on the ascendant 2016 contender have nudged his talk radio supporters back into line, pushing them to throw their valuable support behind the candidate they want to win rather than the one who assures a strong audience.

And with tens of millions of listeners — and a large slice of likely GOP primary voters — at stake, the backing of these right-wing opinion-makers is significant. Their preference for Cruz, in fact, suggests the upswing in his standing in Iowa and national polls has some durability.

“He’s my guy. I like Ted Cruz a lot,” said Glenn Beck on Fox News last week. The host, who has been an avowed Cruz supporter for years, boasts about 7 million listeners a week, according to industry magazine Talkers.
 
Talk radio shifted into Cruz defense last week after Trump called the Texan “a little bit of a maniac” in the Senate. Mark Levin, a former Reagan administration official dubbed “The Great One” by Sean Hannity, took to social media to lambaste the poll leader for insulting Cruz.

“My friend Donald Trump really screwed up,” Levin said. “Big time.”

“We have a guy who has stood up to Mitch McConnell, who is viciously attacked in every liberal newspaper, every liberal outlet, by the establishment. Who led the fight against Obamacare. And he’s referred to as a ‘maniac?’ I’m sure Mitch McConnell loved that,” he said. “I’m sure the Wall Street Journal editorial page loved that. He’s a ‘maniac?’”

Levin also boasts 7 million listeners per week, according to Talkers.

The conservative radio hosts have been on the Trump train for a while, with many of them aligning themselves with Trump’s comments on immigration and how to combat ISIS. But few have come out and declared that they’re Trump backers.

In a post on Facebook in August, Beck questioned the motivations of fellow radio hosts, such as Hannity, Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh, seeming to suggest they were talking Trump to keep the audience. “These are smart people. What am I missing? Just based on his favorability ratings, he could never win in a general. Research shows that he may be near his ceiling now. Are they just trying to hold on to those disenfranchised Republicans and keep them in the fold?” Beck wrote.
Trump backed off his “maniac” comment after talk radio rallied around Cruz. But he wasn’t the only one to target the senator now ranking first in Iowa.

When Marco Rubio at the last debate identified and then exploited an inconsistency in Cruz’s rhetoric on legalization for undocumented immigration, talk radio jumped in again.

Host Erick Erickson, who has had beef with Trump and uninvited him from his August “RedState Gathering,” wrote that Cruz, in proposing an amendment to the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform legislation in 2013, was trying to expose Republicans’ plan for amnesty.

“Yes, Ted Cruz offered a proposal, the result of which would have allowed some illegal aliens to stay in the United States in exchange for never becoming citizens. His plan failed and exposed just how intent his fellow Republican Senators were in giving illegal aliens a pathway to citizenship. Now those Senators and Republican elites want revenge,” Erickson wrote. Though Erickson doesn't have as wide a radio reach as some of his talk show colleagues, his regular commentary on Fox News and writings on RedState (which he left in December), have placed him as an important voice in the conservative community.

Rush Limbaugh, the most listened-to talk radio host in the nation with more than 13 million weekly listeners, who questioned Trump’s bonafides as a true conservative earlier this week, also rushed to Cruz’s defense and praised his debate performance, saying Cruz was trying to push through a “poison pill” amendment to the Gang of Eight legislation.

"At the end of the day when people go vote, people are gonna remember, of the two, it was Marco Rubio that was a member of the Gang of Eight and Ted Cruz that wasn't, and that's as complicated or simple as it's gonna end up being,” Limbaugh said.

Laura Ingraham, who boasts more than 2 million weekly listeners, has called Cruz ‘Reaganesque,' She recently tweeted her appreciation of Cruz for never hiding from “conservative talk radio” and welcoming the tough questions. But clearly, she’s still enjoying Trump too.

"Newsflash to Establishment: Efforts to demonize TrumpCruz have backfired big time. Time to fire the donors & get right with the voters,” she tweeted last week.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ted-cruz-talk-radio-supporters-216950#ixzz3v5ghkjZn
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2015, 02:47:16 PM
Chris Matthews Fears ‘Horror’ of Ted Cruz Presidency; Calls Him ‘Enemy of the State’
By Kyle Drennen
December 22, 2015

Appearing in the 3 p.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on Tuesday, Hardball host Chris Matthews revealed how terrified he was at the prospect of Texas Senator Ted Cruz becoming president: “...Cruz is scarier than Trump and that will be a frightening prospect to realize....if we weren't talking about Trump, we’d be talking about the horror of this country possibly being led by Cruz.”

As fill-in anchor Ayman Mohyeldin started to ask about Donald Trump’s “biggest rival” in the GOP race, Matthews interrupted: “Do you know him? Have you ever met Cruz?” Mohyeldin replied: “I have not. I don't know him.” Matthews sneered: “Well, when you do, you’ll know what I'm talking about....nobody likes him. No one who knows him likes him.”

Mohyeldin wondered: “Well, how is he doing so – how is he doing well in the polls at least?” Matthews ranted:

Because I think the anger that we see driving Trump, the anger on the right, white people, if you will, working white people, whatever that category gets defined as, are so angry, especially the very religious people, that they're willing to put somebody in there who's a complete enemy of the state. They’re willing to go all the way to the hardest far right rail. You can't be too hard right.

He added that with Trump and Cruz, “you’re seeing a battle between two fairly nasty campaigns for the hardest right position.”

Here is a transcript of December 22 exchange:


3:40 PM ET

(...)

CHRIS MATTHEWS: I expect if he [Donald Trump] keeps in there fighting against somebody like [Ted] Cruz they’re gonna realize something that really is scary to most moderates and progressives, that Cruz is scarier than Trump and that will be a frightening prospect to realize that Trump is the more – well, he’s not acceptable to progressives, but when you look at him against Cruz. I mean, Cruz, if we weren't talking about Trump, we’d be talking about the horror of this country possibly being led by Cruz. So, it's a strange competition and the people that are left out of this, it seems, are what used to be called the Republican establishment. I've noticed we’ve only used the word establishment now in terms of saying it's finished.

AYMAN MOHYELDIN: So let's talk a little bit about that. You’re talking about Ted Cruz, obviously he’s being considered as perhaps one of the biggest rivals. Who do you see as the biggest – 

MATTHEWS: Do you know him? Have you ever met Cruz?

MOHYELDIN: I have not. I don't know him.

MATTHEWS: Well, when you do, you’ll know what I'm talking about.

MOHYELDIN: Well, I mean, I’ve seen all of his comments, I follow him obviously a lot throughout the campaign trail.

MATTHEWS: But nobody likes him. No one who knows him likes him. His college roommate –

MOHYELDIN: Well, how is he doing so – how is he doing well in the polls at least?

MATTHEWS: Because I think the anger that we see driving Trump, the anger on the right, white people, if you will, working white people, whatever that category gets defined as, are so angry, especially the very religious people, that they're willing to put somebody in there who's a complete enemy of the state. They’re willing to go all the way to the hardest far right rail. You can't be too hard right.

I mean, here's a guy with a Cuban American background who’s very much against any legalization of anybody who comes to this country illegally ever. I mean, it’s a pretty strong position to be taking. How's that much different than Trump? It’s really hard right. And so, what's going on now is your battle between – you’re seeing a battle between two fairly nasty campaigns for the hardest right position.

(...)     
 http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2015/12/22/chris-matthews-fears-horror-ted-cruz-presidency-calls-him-enemy#sthash.U2ouHhQw.dpuf
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 22, 2015, 03:22:56 PM
Talk radio rallies around Ted Cruz

agreed completely.  Rush + Hannity have gotten on the Cruz bandwagon 100% over the past 10 days.  

that's how the GOP stops trump... employs the talk radio people to re-brainwash people.

suddenly you have the trump cheerleaders talking about how they love Cruz.  fcking phonies.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on December 22, 2015, 08:21:26 PM
agreed completely.  Rush + Hannity have gotten on the Cruz bandwagon 100% over the past 10 days.  

that's how the GOP stops trump... employs the talk radio people to re-brainwash people.

suddenly you have the trump cheerleaders talking about how they love Cruz.  fcking phonies.

As an avid listener of right wing radio who has heard the opinions of hundreds of people on this matter over the past few months I can assure you that there are plenty who like BOTH and would be happy with either one.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 22, 2015, 08:43:15 PM
As an avid listener of right wing radio who has heard the opinions of hundreds of people on this matter over the past few months I can assure you that there are plenty who like BOTH and would be happy with either one.

hannity and rush were BOTH on trump's jock beyond belief.  Starting last monday, 9 days ago, they both were all about the new polling, how cruz had a chance, how it was down to those 2 and rubio... Rush and "i'm starting to become a real ted cruz guy, i love trump, but..." was parroted on getbig almost immediately.  


it's hard to believe it's days away from 2016, and a man mocking a 70 year old woman with health problems, for taking too long in the restroom as "disgusting" has the faintest chance at the nomination.  

to your point polychron - I cannot believe those people you speak of support BOTh... as cruz and trump are so much different in so many ways.  I guess "they're both not clinton" is what qualifies.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on December 23, 2015, 07:38:58 AM
hannity and rush were BOTH on trump's jock beyond belief.  Starting last monday, 9 days ago, they both were all about the new polling, how cruz had a chance, how it was down to those 2 and rubio... Rush and "i'm starting to become a real ted cruz guy, i love trump, but..." was parroted on getbig almost immediately.  


it's hard to believe it's days away from 2016, and a man mocking a 70 year old woman with health problems, for taking too long in the restroom as "disgusting" has the faintest chance at the nomination.  

to your point polychron - I cannot believe those people you speak of support BOTh... as cruz and trump are so much different in so many ways.  I guess "they're both not clinton" is what qualifies.

Crusty old hag was probably in there knocking back swigs of vodka without a thought in the world to anybody else outside waiting.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2015, 07:47:14 AM
Crusty old hag was probably in there knocking back swigs of vodka without a thought in the world to anybody else outside waiting.

or she just wanted to drop a deuce.   I know at 39, sometimes I need more than 30 seconds to kick back, unwind and let nature do its thing.  she's chugging coffee to be wide awake and alert at 10pm Vegas time... you know her tummy was kicking into gear. 

and the ladies room was a lot further from the stage.  Trump is being disgusting on this one. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 23, 2015, 08:50:35 AM
yea id leave out the kids speaking part but the rest is hilarious...what a crazy campaign season this is
He doesn't really have room to complain about this.  He walked right into it by using his kids. 

Cruz Slams Washington Post Cartoonist for Poking at Children
By Todd Beamon   |   
Tuesday, 22 Dec 2015

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz slammed a cartoonist at The Washington Post for satirizing the Texas senator's two children, whom he used in a campaign ad reading parodies of two Christmas classics.

The first-term Cruz said on Twitter:

He was bashing Post cartoonist Ann Telnaes, who depicted Cruz's daughters — Caroline, 7, and Catherine, 4 — as monkeys leashed to their father's organ-grinder in a cartoon published earlier Tuesday.

"There is an unspoken rule in editorial cartooning that a politician’s children are off-limits," Telnaes said in introducing the cartoon. "But when a politician uses his children as political props, as Ted Cruz recently did in his Christmas parody video in which his eldest daughter read (with her father’s dramatic flourish) a passage of an edited Christmas classic, then I figure they are fair game."

The video featured Caroline reading "The Grinch Who Lost Her Emails," in an apparent reference to the Hillary Clinton email scandal.

In 2013, Cruz read the Dr. Seuss book "Green Eggs and Ham" to his daughters during the nearly 22 hours he spoke on the Senate floor against Obamacare.

Other "classics" touted in the commercial include "How Obamacare Stole Christmas" and "Rudolph, The Underemployed Reindeer."

The ad ran in Iowa during last week's episode of "Saturday Night Live" — and it was made to look like one of the show's own parody commercials.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/ted-cruz-cartoon-mocks-daughters/2015/12/22/id/706862/#ixzz3vACDu000
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2015, 10:47:36 AM
He doesn't really have room to complain about this.  He walked right into it by using his kids. 

I disagree.  a politician showing their family doesn't mean it's okay to paint them as monkeys.

and cruz has to do something... the rapid, low-iq base loving trump has a massive lead over him.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 23, 2015, 11:08:16 AM
I disagree.  a politician showing their family doesn't mean it's okay to paint them as monkeys.

and cruz has to do something... the rapid, low-iq base loving trump has a massive lead over him.

He didn't just show his family.  He had his daughter participate with a line attacking Hillary.  That puts his kids squarely in play.  
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on December 23, 2015, 11:12:33 AM
He didn't just show his family.  He had his daughter participate with a line attacking Hillary.  That puts his kids squarely in play.  

Little monkeys though?

How would that go over with a Democratic minority candidate?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 23, 2015, 11:16:10 AM
Little monkeys though?

How would that go over with a Democratic minority candidate?

I'm not saying portraying his kids as monkeys is appropriate.  It's not.  I'm saying Cruz created this problem by using his kids in that kind of ad. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 23, 2015, 12:56:41 PM
He didn't just show his family.  He had his daughter participate with a line attacking Hillary.  That puts his kids squarely in play.  

X2.  He can't expect to have all things at once.  This is on him.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on December 23, 2015, 08:31:30 PM
He may have done it to ramp up donations.

Low.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on December 23, 2015, 08:42:40 PM
His spokesman said no amount of money can replace the hurt feelings felt from being humiliated like this by liberals. 


We still remember a certain right wing host coloring Chelsea to the family dog...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on December 30, 2015, 06:33:22 PM
Cruz Raises Almost $20M in Fourth Quarter
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Image: Cruz Raises Almost $20M in Fourth Quarter
Wednesday, 30 Dec 2015

Dec 30 (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas raised almost $20 million for his Republican presidential campaign in the fourth quarter, a 66 percent increase over the previous three-month period, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

Cruz's campaign manager, Jeff Roe, said in a memo to staff and supporters that the campaign's year-end fundraising total would come to more than $45 million, up from the $26 million raised by the end of September, according to the Journal.

The $20 million haul in the final three months of 2015 is up sharply from the $12.2 million raised in the third quarter, the newspaper said.

Cruz has seen his poll numbers improve as the year draws to an end. He now holds the lead in several surveys in Iowa, which votes first in the presidential contest. (Writing by Eric Beech in Washington; Editing by Mohammad Zargham)

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/ted-cruz-raises-20/2015/12/30/id/707674/#ixzz3vrUei9h2
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 08, 2016, 04:53:36 PM
A.B. Stoddard: Cruz’s path to victory
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By A.B. Stoddard
01/06/16

He is the most hated man in Washington, and he isn’t riveting record crowds like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are out on the campaign trail. But Ted Cruz is running one of the best presidential campaigns of 2016.

After spending what will likely amount to the most money and most time in Iowa by any GOP candidate, Cruz is now the front-runner for the Iowa caucuses on Feb. 1. The Texas senator has proven his hunger to Iowa Republicans with late-night stops and an effort to visit to all 99 counties, with 28 stops this week alone.

Throughout, Cruz has made a few mistakes — like making a Joe Biden joke days after the vice president’s son died of cancer — but he has otherwise exhibited impressive discipline as a candidate.
He has used humor on Twitter and flagrant flattery to deflect provocations from the press to criticize Trump. He appreciates the value of timing; though he started wooing Iowa conservatives just months after being elected senator in 2012, he kept his now years-old presidential campaign quiet until March.

During several early debates, Cruz — a former debate champion — held back, aware that peaking too soon is one of the easiest ways to lose. And while Cruz was working to win the most critical endorsements of social conservative leaders in Iowa, which he has now received, he was also building formidable operations in the southern states that vote March 1, when more delegates will be awarded than on any other day.

A win in the first contest, previously written off as less significant than the second one, in New Hampshire, now appears likely to create powerful momentum for Cruz. Should he head straight to South Carolina to plant the first flag before its Feb. 20 vote, a nightmare scenario could result for establishment Republicans, who could end up splitting the vote in New Hampshire on Feb. 9 and serving as spoilers for a Trump victory in the state. To date, none of them have landed on a potent line of attack to stop Cruz in Iowa. Conceding the Hawkeye State could mean conceding the Palmetto State, too: in 2012, 65 percent of South Carolina GOP primary voters identified themselves as born-again or evangelical Christians.

So far Cruz’s plan is working, though history may prove it laughably futile. That’s because the senator doesn’t intend to win over the electorate, he plans to try to change it — like Barack Obama did. “Obama ran a masterful campaign,” he has said. “It was a grassroots guerilla campaign, encircled the Hillary campaign before they knew what hit them.”

The path to victory, Cruz insists, is through conservatives — not swing voters in the “mushy middle.” He thinks there are millions of white evangelical Republicans he can inspire who sat out elections in 2012 and 2008, when the GOP nominated moderate Republicans. He maintains “if the body of Christ rises up as one and votes our values we can turn this country around.” (The number crunchers disagree: voters who stayed home did so in red or blue states, not in battleground states, therefore they weren’t decisive in GOP losses.)

To meet his goal, Cruz is dispatching a data analytics firm to reach millions of potential supporters, through data gathered mostly from Facebook without their knowledge. Through “psychographic targeting,” his team is trying to locate possible Cruz voters based on five personality traits: openness, conscientiousness, extraversion, agreeableness and neuroticism.

Perhaps recognizing he may not be the best messenger, Cruz intends to be the best marketer. After all, winning the presidency is just a numbers game. The candidate with the most numbers wins, and Cruz thinks he knows how to find them.

http://thehill.com/opinion/ab-stoddard/265001-ab-stoddard-cruzs-path-to-victory
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on January 08, 2016, 05:08:37 PM
His spokesman said no amount of money can replace the hurt feelings felt from being humiliated like this by liberals.  


We still remember a certain right wing host coloring Chelsea to the family dog...

Had to look that one up.

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 15, 2016, 10:21:33 AM
Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested in Birther Suit
Laurel Brubaker Calkins and Kevin Cirilli
January 14, 2016

Republican presidential contender Ted Cruz should be disqualified from the race because he isn’t a “natural-born citizen,” a fellow Texan claims in a “birther” challenge filed against the senator in a U.S. court.

The suit seeks a court definition of the term to clarify whether Cruz -- who was born in Canada to an American mother -- can or can’t serve if elected.

“This 229-year question has never been pled, presented to or finally decided by or resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court,” Houston attorney Newton B. Schwartz Sr. said in his 28-page complaint. “Only the U.S. Supreme Court can finally decide, determine judicially and settle this issue now.”

Claiming that “time is of the essence” because of the rapidly approaching Iowa caucuses and March 1 Super Tuesday primaries, Schwartz asked that the case be expedited for resolution by the nation’s highest court as soon as possible.

Republican front-runner Donald Trump pressed the issue during a televised candidate debate Thursday evening in South Carolina, saying he’s bringing up Cruz’s Canadian birthplace “because now he’s doing a little bit better” in the polls. Trump insisted that Cruz receive a judgment from the courts because it would be bad for Republicans to have the issue hanging over their presidential or vice-presidential nominee.

“There is a big overhang. A big question mark on your head,” Trump told Cruz. “You can’t do that to the party.”

Cruz Chuckled
Cruz chuckled when asked to respond to Trump’s taunts and swatted them away deftly. Trump, on the other end of the exchange, faced many boos from the crowd.

“There’s nothing to this birther issue,” Cruz said during the debate, noting that Trump said last fall that he was a natural-born citizen. “Since September, the Constitution hasn’t changed. But the poll numbers have. I recognize that Donald is dismayed that his poll numbers are falling in Iowa. But the facts and the law are really clear. Under longstanding U.S. law, the child of a U.S. citizen abroad is a natural born citizen.”

Schwartz, 85, said in a phone interview he isn’t connected to any particular campaign, though he personally “probably” supports Bernie Sanders, the Vermont senator seeking the Democratic nomination.

“Honestly, I was watching C-SPAN one night when Donald Trump was talking about it and I couldn’t believe no one had thought to just file something with the court,” said Schwartz, a practicing trial attorney and self-described news junkie.

‘Simple Procedure’
“It’s such a simple procedure -- I’m amazed no one did it,” Schwartz said. “Senator Cruz should have filed it himself to avoid the question.”

Asked about the lawsuit, Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for the Cruz campaign, said: “I’d refer you to the debate exchange on the issue.”

Schwartz said he filed the paperwork himself with no one else advising him and he said he does not have an opinion for which way the court should rule.

“The country will be in chaos if he’s elected president or vice president and this goes to trial then,” Schwartz said. “I can see both sides of this argument.”
The attorney added that he’s got “nothing against” Cruz.

“If he gets cleared, he gets cleared,” Schwartz said. “Let’s just get this thing settled before the primaries and the convention and the election.”
The case is Schwartz v. Cruz, 4:16-cv-00106, U.S. District Court, Southern District of Texas (Houston).

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/cruz-s-natural-born-citizen-status-challenged-in-birther-suit
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 18, 2016, 10:16:05 AM
Constitutional Lawyer Floyd Abrams: SCOTUS Won't Rule on Cruz Citizenship
By Greg Richter   
Sunday, 17 Jan 2016

The U.S. Supreme Court is unlikely to rule on whether Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is qualified to be president, saying it is political issue, constitutional attorney Floyd Abrams said Sunday.

"I think [the Supreme Court] would say, 'We're not going to rule ... We're going to treat this as a political question. Congress can decide. The public can decide' ... I don't think the court would pass judgment,' Abrams told John Catsimatidis, host of "The Cats Roundtable" on AM 970 in New York.

Cruz was born in Canada, but his mother was an American citizen. While that makes Cruz an American citizen by birth, scholars are split on whether that makes Cruz a "natural born" citizen, and thus qualified to hold the largest office in the land.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/abrams-supreme-court-cruz-eligibility/2016/01/17/id/709816/#ixzz3xcZPoci2
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 18, 2016, 10:36:39 AM
Donald Trump On Ted Cruz: 'He's A Nasty Guy. Nobody Likes Him.'
"You can't make deals with people like that."
01/17/2016
Zach Carter
Senior Political Economy Reporter, The Huffington Post
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WASHINGTON -- Donald Trump on Sunday ramped up his attacks on fellow GOP presidential hopeful Ted Cruz on Sunday, calling the Texas senator "a nasty guy" and a "hypocrite."

"Look, the truth is, he's a nasty guy," Trump said on ABC's "This Week." "Nobody likes him. Nobody in Congress likes him. Nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. He's a very –- he's got an edge that's not good. You can't make deals with people like that and it's not a good thing. It's not a good thing for the country. Very nasty guy."

Cruz has in fact alienated many of his Senate colleagues (along with members of George W. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign, a college roommate and others). Trump, for his part, has called Latino immigrants "rapists" and called for "a complete shutdown" on all Muslim transportation to the United States, both of which are objectively nasty things to do, particularly as a politician.

The escalating war of words between Trump and Cruz reflects polls in Iowa showing the two candidates running neck-and-neck in the first caucus of the 2016 cycle. Cruz has doubled down on assaults against Trump's "New York values," pushing videos showing Trump supporting abortion rights and praising Hillary Clinton.

Trump also said Cruz's rhetoric against "crony capitalism" and Wall Street favoritism in Washington is hypocritical, citing a recent New York Times report indicating that Cruz financed his Senate campaign with loans from Goldman Sachs and Citigroup.

"He's a total hypocrite. How about his fundraising and how about when he does his personal financial disclosure form, and he doesn't put on that he's borrowing money from Goldman Sachs?" Trump told ABC host George Stephanopoulos. "He wants to look like Robin Hood, that he's the one protecting the people from the banks, while he's actually borrowing money and personally guaranteeing it and not disclosing it."

Cruz's loans from Goldman and Citi were perfectly legal and reveal no more Wall Street influence over his campaign than any other candidate who receives campaign contributions from big banks. He has dismissed his failure to disclose them as a "paperwork error." Trump, a real estate billionaire, has worked in Wall Street circles for his entire career.

Trump also went after Cruz for supporting now-Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts in 2005.

"Cruz fought like hell to get Justice Roberts in there. Justice Roberts turned out to be an absolute disaster, he turned out to be an absolute disaster because he gave us Obamacare," Trump said.

Cruz wasn't in the Senate when then-President Bush nominated Roberts to the nation's highest court. Roberts' opposition at the time came from liberal Senators and legal experts. He has since become a lightning rod for conservative criticism, however, for writing the Supreme Court opinion that allowed much of Obamacare to survive. Roberts' opinion also undercut decades of liberal jurisprudence going back to the New Deal era, however, and allowed Republican governors to deny the law's benefits to low-income citizens who would have been otherwise eligible for Medicaid under Obamacare.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ted-cruz-nasty_569bc5c8e4b0778f46f9a2f4
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 03, 2016, 08:06:52 AM
First on CNN: Ted Cruz apologizes to Ben Carson
By Betsy Klein, MJ Lee and Tom LoBianco, CNN
Tue February 2, 2016 | Video Source: CNN

Republican Ben Carson called on the Ted Cruz campaign staffer who said the retired neurosurgeon was planning to dropping out to be fired
One day after winning the Iowa caucuses, Cruz issued an apology to Carson

Windham, New Hampshire (CNN)Republican Ben Carson Tuesday called for the firing of a Ted Cruz campaign staffer who said the retired neurosurgeon was planning to drop out.

"I think whoever is responsible for blatant lying should be dismissed, absolutely. Unless that kind of behavior is acceptable in your campaign culture," Carson told CNN's Jake Tapper on "The Lead."

One day after winning the Iowa caucuses, Cruz issued an apology to Carson after his staff falsely told Iowa caucusgoers that Carson planned to quit the race, calling it a "mistake."

Cruz said in a statement Tuesday that his campaign staff saw a CNN report that Carson was dropping out, although CNN had not characterized Carson's actions that way.

"Last night when our political team saw the CNN post saying that Dr. Carson was not carrying on to New Hampshire and South Carolina, our campaign updated grassroots leaders just as we would with any breaking news story," Cruz said in a statement first shared with CNN. "That's fair game. What the team then should have done was send around the follow-up statement from the Carson campaign clarifying that he was indeed staying in the race when that came out."

Carson said Tuesday he accepted the apology, but questioned whether there was a deeper "cultural issue" with Cruz's campaign.

"As a Christian I will accept the apology but it doesn't correct the problem," Carson told CNN. "This is a cultural issue when people in your campaign feel that it's ok to distort the issues to their political advantage and to tell absolute lies. And the question really is will there be any consequences for that."

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus told Tapper on "The Lead" Tuesday that he would not get in the middle of the fight between Cruz and Carson.

"Look, for me to get in the middle of litigating these things that are going on behind the scenes, that we find out about the next day -- I think it was explained by one of the campaigns as to what happened, I think you take them at their word for it and we move onto the next state," Priebus said.

CNN reported that the retired neurosurgeon planned to go home to Florida after the Iowa caucuses, rather than flying straight to New Hampshire or South Carolina, where the next primary contests are held. His aides have emphasized that he is not suspending his campaign -- rather, just briefly going home to "get a fresh set of clothes."

But the Cruz campaign reacted to the news by incorrectly telling precinct captains -- while the caucuses were still taking place -- that the move signaled Carson would be dropping out of the race.

Twenty minutes after the caucuses began in Iowa, Rep. Steve King, the Cruz campaign's national co-chair, retweeted CNN's Chris Moody about Carson's break from the campaign trail before New Hampshire's primary.

"Carson looks like he is out. Iowans need to know before they vote. Most will go to Cruz, I hope," King tweeted. In another tweet, the congressman said Carson's next steps were "equivalent of suspending."

Cruz Iowa staffer Spence Rogers also suggested in an email to precinct captains that Carson may be announcing the end of his campaign next week.

"Breaking News. The press is reporting that Dr. Ben Carson is taking time off from the campaign trail after Iowa and making a big announcement next week," the email read. "Please inform any Carson caucus goers of this news and urge them to caucus for Ted Cruz."

Carson said Tuesday that he merely wants to sleep in his own bed before heading back out on the trail.

"Anybody who's been on the road for almost three weeks recognizes exactly what I'm talking about -- you need some fresh clothes. It's not like you're going to be there forever," Carson told CNN. "It's very nice to sleep in your own bed every now and then. And if anybody can't understand that I feel sorry for them."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ted-cruz-ben-carson-apology/index.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 03, 2016, 04:14:25 PM
Why pundits, politicians and the press hate Ted Cruz
By  Todd Starnes 
Published February 03, 2016
FoxNews.com

Senator Ted Cruz is now the frontrunner in the Republican race for the White House.

But if you believe the Mainstream Media and the political pundits -- Marco Rubio won the Iowa Caucus.

Just look at Tuesday's news coverage -- they marginalized Senator Cruz -- and glorified Senator Rubio.

And that's the narrative. Cruz may have won -- but Rubio is more electable. And yet... the numbers in Iowa tell a very different story.

One out of three evangelical voters chose Cruz -- so did four out of ten very conservative voters.

And 26 percent of young voters -- 18 to 29 - -- they didn't vote for Rubio -- they also voted for Cruz.

The voters recognize  a simple truth. Senator Cruz has been a man of his word -- a principled conservative -- and that is something the Establishment cannot tolerate.

“What we are seeing is evangelicals who have been dormant in the political process that are turning out,” said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. “It’s something we haven’t seen in a number of years.”

Perkins, who has endorsed Cruz, told me the voters are not interested in a moderate candidate. They don’t want someone in the “middle.”

“There’s nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead animals,” Perkins said.

Looking back on the results in Iowa, Perkins said there should be one take-away for voters.

“Do not listen to the pundits or the polls – but vote your values,” he said. “It was values voters and the return of those voters that put Ted Cruz over the top.”

It's not that the pundits and politicos hate Senator Cruz - they know he can't be controlled -- and that has them terrified.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/02/03/why-pundits-politicians-and-press-hate-ted-cruz.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 08, 2016, 08:11:10 PM
Texans For Fiscal Responsibility Endorses Ted Cruz
by MICHELLE FIELDS
8 Feb 2016

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) speaks at a Town Hall event on February 7, 2016 in Peterborough, New Hampshire. Cruz, who won the Iowa caucus, is hoping for another strong showing in Tuesday's New Hampshire primary despite the state's more moderate base. (Photo bySpencer Platt/Getty
Texans for Fiscal Responsibility announced in a video and statement Monday its endorsement of Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%.

“Ted Cruz is a principled, commonsense conservative who has done in Washington precisely what he said he was going to do,” said Michael Quinn Sullivan, the president of TFR, in a video. “Ted Cruz has taken on the Washington establishment cartel of Democrats and liberal Republicans, unabashedly defending our constitutional liberties by promoting the principles of liberty.”

“I appreciate the support of Texans for Fiscal Responsibility. I’m committed to scrubbing the budget of unconstitutional spending to ensure taxpayer dollars are spent wisely,” said Cruz.

“No responsible parent would leave their children with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt; we should not allow the government to do this to our children and grandchildren either,” Cruz said. “It’s time for Washington to tighten its belt – no more reckless spending or handing out favors to K-Street lobbyists while hard-working Americans are left to foot the bill.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/08/2972188/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 15, 2016, 01:32:42 PM
Ted Cruz releases Supreme Court ad after Justice Antonin Scalia's death
By Tal Kopan, CNN
February 15, 2016 | Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Sen. Ted Cruz is out with a new ad highlighting the importance of the Supreme Court in the presidential race just days after the sudden death of Justice Antonin Scalia.

The ad, released to supporters Sunday night, does not mention Scalia's death, announced Saturday. The ad is about the importance of Supreme Court nominations more generally. The Cruz campaign did not immediately respond to a question about when the ad was cut.

The spot will air in South Carolina, which holds its Republican primary Saturday, and mainly focuses on the front-runner in the race: Donald Trump.

"Life, marriage, religious liberty, the Second Amendment. We're just one Supreme Court justice away from losing them all," the narrator says over an image of the court building.

It then cuts to file footage of Trump on "Meet the Press" in 1999, asked by the late host Tim Russert if he would ban partial-birth abortions.

"Well look, I'm very pro-choice," Trump answers. "I am pro-choice in every respect."

Trump has said he has changed his mind and is now anti-abortion as he runs for the GOP presidential nomination.

Even before the death of the longest-serving justice, who was a conservative icon and the intellectual firepower behind conservatives on the bench, candidates for president have been talking about the importance of the court on the trail.

It was already likely the next president would name one justice or more to the court for a lifetime appointment, and both Democrats and Republicans have stumped on how that could reshape the make-up of the court.

Scalia's death has only intensified that existing debate -- especially as Republicans say the Senate should not vote on a nominee from President Barack Obama and instead wait for the next president.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/15/politics/ted-cruz-justice-antonin-scalia-supreme-court-ad/index.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 17, 2016, 10:42:32 AM
Medal of Honor Recipient Dakota Meyer Has Officially Endorsed a Candidate for President
BY JOE PERTICONE
SHARETWEETEMAIL
2016-02-16
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Medal of Honor recipient and United States Marine Corps Sergeant Dakota Meyer endorsed Ted Cruz for President, the Cruz campaign announced Tuesday.

In a statement from the campaign, Meyer praised Cruz and called the 2016 election “a turning point for our country.” Meyer, who is the third recipient of the military’s highest honor since the Vietnam War, added:

“I am confident that Ted Cruz has the ability and resolve to be Commander-in-Chief. His record of standing up and fighting for what he believes in shows that he is not someone who buckles under pressure. Ted is ready to led this country – and I look forward to help uniting conservatives and veterans behind this campaign.”

Also in the statement, Cruz called Meyer “a man of great courage and principle” who “served our country dutifully and honorably.”

Continuing his gratitude for Meyer’s endorsement, Cruz said:

“We need to restore America’s leadership in the world at a time when Obama’s foreign policy has put America and it’s national security interests in jeopardy. I am honored to have Dakota’s support and have him as part of our team to help win the White House in 2016.”
Meyer, age 27, received the Medal of Honor for his heroic actions in Afghanistan in September of 2009. He received the prestigious honor two years later.

Cruz, who won the Iowa caucuses, takes the endorsement in stride as he continues his campaign before the South Carolina primary begins this Saturday.

“We need a Commander-in-Chief who works with our allies and makes it known that certain actions against the United States and its allies will not be tolerated,” Meyer said.

http://www.ijreview.com/2016/02/539358-medal-of-honor-recipient-dakota-meyer-endorses-ted-cruz-for-president/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 17, 2016, 08:00:02 PM
James Dobson Urges SC Voters to Back Ted Cruz Over Trump
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Image: James Dobson Urges SC Voters to Back Ted Cruz Over Trump (Michael Holahan/The Augusta Chronicle via AP)
By Todd Beamon
Wednesday, 17 Feb 2016

Evangelical broadcaster James Dobson is encouraging South Carolina voters to back Sen. Ted Cruz as the only viable alternative to Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

"Other Republicans are certainly worthy of consideration, but at this point it looks like a vote for anyone other than Ted Cruz is a vote for Donald Trump," Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, told supporters in a recorded message paid for by Courageous Conservatives PAC.

The group is supporting Cruz, The New York Times reports. Dobson's message was part of a robocall effort by the super PAC that began over the weekend.

"For people of faith, who care about religious liberty, life and marriage, it's time for us to rally around Senator Ted Cruz," Dobson said.

In December, Dobson backed Cruz's run for the nomination.

Rick Shaftan, lead strategist for Courageous Conservatives, confirmed the message to the Times.

He said the group was planning two radio ads attacking Trump — on whether he would appoint conservatives to replace Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and bashing the developer's views on abortion.

"We're going to say it," Shaftan told the Times. "Let him call us liars.

"That's what South Carolina's all about, man," he said. "Let the missiles fly."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/james-dobson-ted-cruz-south-carolina-primary/2016/02/17/id/714818/#ixzz40UMHJDGu
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 23, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
He's right.

Actually, Ted Cruz Does Want To Round Up Every Undocumented Immigrant
Walls, border patrols and biometric scanners, oh my.
Nick Visser
Reporter, The Huffington Post 
02/22/2016
 
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has taken a page from Donald Trump's presidential campaign playbook, hardening his rhetoric against undocumented immigrants.

Cruz told Fox News host Bill O'Reilly on Monday that yes, should he be elected president, his administration would deport all 12 million undocumented people estimated to be in the U.S. and wouldn't allow them to return.

"We should enforce the law ... federal law requires that anyone here illegally that's apprehended should be deported," Cruz said. "Of course" he'd look for undocumented immigrants, he said.

Cruz said America would build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, triple the border force and establish biometric entry systems "so we will know the day someone overstays their visa."

The senator's comments represent an escalation in rhetoric from a candidate who rejected the notion of a "deportation force" of "jackboots" just last month, and lambasted the idea after it was proposed by GOP front-runner Trump. Cruz in January said such a policy would reflect "a police state," adding, "That's not how we enforce the law for any crime."

Cruz was pressed on the issue Monday by O'Reilly, who asked if he would seek out fictitious Irishman Tommy O'Malley and deport him for overstaying his visa.

"You better believe it," Cruz said. "Both Donald Trump and Marco Rubio would allow those 12 million people to become U.S. citizens. I will not."

Multiple recent estimates of the undocumented population indicate that Cruz was overstating the number. Think tank Center for Migration Studies estimated there were 10.9 million people living in the U.S. without authorization as of 2014, and Pew Research Center estimated there were were 11.3 million the same year.

When Cruz talks about finding and deporting undocumented immigrants, it's also worth remembering who he's talking about. Pew estimated that 4 million undocumented immigrants lived with U.S.-born children (minors and adults) as of 2012. The number of parents of Americans could be higher since they might not live together. Nearly 700,000 undocumented immigrants are young people who came to the U.S. as children and were approved for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA, which allows them to stay in the country and work on a temporary basis. Cruz also promised to dismantle that program. Of undocumented immigrants in general, Pew estimates that 62 percent as of 2012 had lived in the U.S. for at least a decade.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-deport-12-million-undocumented_us_56cbd9fbe4b0928f5a6d147a
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 23, 2016, 12:02:06 PM
James Dobson Urges SC Voters to Back Ted Cruz Over Trump
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Image: James Dobson Urges SC Voters to Back Ted Cruz Over Trump (Michael Holahan/The Augusta Chronicle via AP)
By Todd Beamon
Wednesday, 17 Feb 2016

Evangelical broadcaster James Dobson is encouraging South Carolina voters to back Sen. Ted Cruz as the only viable alternative to Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump.

"Other Republicans are certainly worthy of consideration, but at this point it looks like a vote for anyone other than Ted Cruz is a vote for Donald Trump," Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, told supporters in a recorded message paid for by Courageous Conservatives PAC.

The group is supporting Cruz, The New York Times reports. Dobson's message was part of a robocall effort by the super PAC that began over the weekend.

"For people of faith, who care about religious liberty, life and marriage, it's time for us to rally around Senator Ted Cruz," Dobson said.

In December, Dobson backed Cruz's run for the nomination.

Rick Shaftan, lead strategist for Courageous Conservatives, confirmed the message to the Times.

He said the group was planning two radio ads attacking Trump — on whether he would appoint conservatives to replace Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and bashing the developer's views on abortion.

"We're going to say it," Shaftan told the Times. "Let him call us liars.

"That's what South Carolina's all about, man," he said. "Let the missiles fly."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/james-dobson-ted-cruz-south-carolina-primary/2016/02/17/id/714818/#ixzz40UMHJDGu

Is that the same James Dobson who says you can cure your son of "gayness" by showering with him so he can see your adult penis ...therefore curing or rendering him immune from gayness?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 23, 2016, 02:13:53 PM
Poll: Cruz Leads Trump By 8 Points in Texas
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Image: Poll: Cruz Leads Trump By 8 Points in Texas   (Getty Images)
By Cathy Burke   |    Tuesday, 23 Feb 2016

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is beating GOP presidential rival Donald Trump in the Lone State State ahead of next week's Super Tuesday primary voting, a new poll shows.

The University of Texas and Texas Tribune survey released Tuesday shows Cruz with an 8-point lead.

Here's the breakdown:
•Cruz: 37 percent
•Trump: 29 percent
•Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: 15 percent
•Jeb Bush: 6 percent
•Ohio Gov. John Kasich: 5 percent
•Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson: 4 percent.

The survey's margin of error is 3.49 percentage points.

"These numbers reflect what most of us think was going on in Texas: It's decent ground for Donald Trump because he's a national candidate who's touched a nerve everywhere, but it displays a little bit of a homefield advantage for Ted Cruz," Daron Shaw, co-director of the poll and a professor of government at the University of Texas at Austin, tells the Texas Tribune.

Shaw said the poll was completed on the eve of the South Carolina primary and its outcome — and Jeb Bush's decision to drop out — could change the dynamics in Texas.

"There was no redemption in Texas for Jeb Bush, even before South Carolina," added Jim Henson, director of the Texas Politics Project at UT-Austin and the poll's co-director.

ttp://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Texas-Poll-Cruz-Leads-Trump/2016/02/23/id/715666/#ixzz4121o9JCI
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2016, 07:30:11 PM
Poll: Cruz Leads Trump By 8 Points in Texas

I bet that lead dissolves if Cruz finishes 3rd or worse tonight.

If trump wins 3 straight, it'll be tough to argue he isn't going to win it all.  Even for RINO apologists in love with Rubio's dimples ;)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Leatherneck on February 23, 2016, 08:44:11 PM
I bet that lead dissolves if Cruz finishes 3rd or worse tonight.

If trump wins 3 straight, it'll be tough to argue he isn't going to win it all.  Even for RINO apologists in love with Rubio's dimples ;)
240, we said a couple months ago... If Trump got traction in the early states no one would stop him. Your guy Cruz may win Texas but that will only be a blip on the radar.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 23, 2016, 09:04:34 PM
240, we said a couple months ago... If Trump got traction in the early states no one would stop him. Your guy Cruz may win Texas but that will only be a blip on the radar.

i've said from minute one that while cruz is my guy, I'm 100% sure Trump will steamroll his way to the nomination.  (then he either wins or loses 40 states... it's not close)

The repub base just loves his celebrity and vague catch phrases.  It's obama fever for repubs.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 24, 2016, 08:05:06 AM
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Endorses Cruz
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Image: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott Endorses Cruz
Wednesday, 24 Feb 2016

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is endorsing Sen. Ted Cruz for president in his home state.

Abbott becomes the senator's highest profile endorsement to date. Abbott will formally back Cruz at an event Wednesday at 1 p.m. later today, CNN reports. The announcement comes just six days before Texans head to the polls in the Republican primary.

After 8 years of relentless attacks on our values from this White House, it's our duty as Texas conservatives to support a leader we can trust to restore our values and move this country forward," Abbott  said in a video releaed Wednesday. "That's why I'm supporting Ted Cruz for president."

Cruz has wooed the governor's endorsement for months, praising his efforts on immigration -- the key issue for Abbott, who strongly favors blocking illegal immigration in the border state.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Abbott-endorses-cruz-texas/2016/02/24/id/715827/#ixzz416NzVTnF
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: avxo on February 24, 2016, 07:47:08 PM
Is that the same James Dobson who says you can cure your son of "gayness" by showering with him so he can see your adult penis ...therefore curing or rendering him immune from gayness?


Wait... what? Is this a joke?!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 24, 2016, 08:12:11 PM
Wait... what? Is this a joke?!

sadly it's not a joke

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133374.0
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: avxo on February 24, 2016, 08:41:00 PM
wow...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 24, 2016, 09:41:55 PM
Fundies are pretty damn stupid when it comes to common sense usage. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2016, 09:06:58 AM
James Dobson Urges SC Voters to Back Ted Cruz Over Trump

dobson sounds like a pedo.

why did you post pedo propaganda here, dos equis?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 25, 2016, 09:10:30 AM
dobson sounds like a pedo.

why did you post pedo propaganda here, dos equis?

Why did you threatened to murder your wife and kid on this board 240 is back? 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 25, 2016, 09:13:54 AM
Why did you threatened to murder your wife and kid on this board 240 is back?  

scott peterson approved.  lol!  Did they execute his ass yet?

you think my joke from ten years ago is the same as you posing pedo propaganda in 2016?  

Lots of spouses joke about sending their significant other to belize.  None of us here (almost none of us) think it's cool to spread pedo propaganda.  It doesn't belong here.  If he dude is talking about showering with minors, then his name doesn't belong on getbig.  Please remove that.  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 25, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
scott peterson approved.  lol!  Did they execute his ass yet?

you think my joke from ten years ago is the same as you posing pedo propaganda in 2016?  

Lots of spouses joke about sending their significant other to belize.  None of us here (almost none of us) think it's cool to spread pedo propaganda.  It doesn't belong here.  If he dude is talking about showering with minors, then his name doesn't belong on getbig.  Please remove that.  Thanks in advance.

my woman already knows. if i ever make a fortune, i'll always make sure she and the babies are covered if we split.

but if we ever split and she tries to screw me in court, well, hello scott peterson.

Scott Lee Peterson (born 24 October 1972 in San Diego, California) is a former agriculture chemical salesman convicted of the murder of his pregnant wife, Laci Peterson. His case dominated the American media for many weeks. On March 16, 2005, Peterson was sentenced to death and currently resides on death row in San Quentin State Prison.

On April 14, the body of a male fetus, with umbilical cord still attached, washed ashore at the San Francisco Bay. The next day, a partial female torso missing its hands, feet, and head washed ashore in the same area. The bodies were later identified as Laci and Conner Peterson. Autopsies were performed, but due to decomposition the specific cause of death was never determined. Prosecutors theorized that Laci may have been suffocated or strangled in the couple's home. The Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and Modesto Police Department performed forensic searches of the couple's home, Scott's truck, the tool box in the back of his truck, his warehouse and his boat. They found only one piece of forensic evidence, a single hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 25, 2016, 10:22:16 AM
scott peterson approved.  lol!  Did they execute his ass yet?

you think my joke from ten years ago is the same as you posing pedo propaganda in 2016?  

Lots of spouses joke about sending their significant other to belize.  None of us here (almost none of us) think it's cool to spread pedo propaganda.  It doesn't belong here.  If he dude is talking about showering with minors, then his name doesn't belong on getbig.  Please remove that.  Thanks in advance.

come on 240

Bum is not posting Pedo propaganda

He didn't post Dobson advice on showering with your son so that he can see your adult penis, thus rendering him immune (or cured ?  not quite sure if it still works if the kid is already gay) from gayness

all he did was say that he read the entire article and it "makes sense" to him

I've never understood it and asked Bum at least a few times to explain how it works but so far he hasn't been willing to do so.

maybe it's a secret as in ......Shhhshh - don't tell anyone about our secret shower time

Among other reasons:

1.  I find it amusing that people who probably don't have a son (a straight one anyway) or kids at all criticize a child rearing expert.  

2.  I read the entire article and it is a great read.  Makes sense to me.

3.  I've read Dr. Dobson's books and I think he is a wonderful psychologist.  

4.  I particularly like this expert, which is a real eye opener IMO:

What do we know about this disorder? Well first, it is a disorder, despite the denials of the American Psychiatric Association. Great political pressure was exerted on this professional organization by gays and lesbians (some of whom are psychiatrists) to declare homosexuality to be "normal." The debate went on for years. Finally, a decision was made in 1973 to remove this condition from their Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). It was made not on the basis of science, but was strongly influenced by a poll of APA members, which was initiated and financed by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. The vote was 5,834 to 3,810.2.   The American Psychological Association soon followed suit.3 Today, psychologists or psychiatrists who disagree with this politically correct interpretation, or even those who try to help homosexuals change, are subjected to continual harassment and accusations of malpractice.

So in 1973 3,810 members of the American Psychiatric Association believed homosexuality was a disorder?  As they say in Hawaii, "I nevah know."  Very interesting.  

In summary:

::)

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on February 26, 2016, 08:28:40 AM
that's disgusting.

how in the world does that 'make sense' to you, dos equis?

dos equis, i've given you lots of praise and props here for your common sense approach to hating on trump.

please take this moment to correct the record, and tell us that "showering away the gay" is some horrible sh*t and you don't agree with it. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on February 26, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
that's disgusting.

how in the world does that 'make sense' to you, dos equis?

dos equis, i've given you lots of praise and props here for your common sense approach to hating on trump.

please take this moment to correct the record, and tell us that "showering away the gay" is some horrible sh*t and you don't agree with it. 

240 is back how often do you have homicidal thoughts about your wife and child? 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on February 26, 2016, 09:20:53 AM
that's disgusting.

how in the world does that 'make sense' to you, dos equis?

dos equis, i've given you lots of praise and props here for your common sense approach to hating on trump.

please take this moment to correct the record, and tell us that "showering away the gay" is some horrible sh*t and you don't agree with it.  

In all these years I don't recall Bum ever explaing how this "makes sense" to him or correcting the record.  

I would have thought that maybe he didn't actually read the article and was just giving blind allegiance to a famous fundie leader but then you see he wrote "I read the entire article and it is a great read.  Makes sense to me."

There's just no where to go with that other than to take him at his word that "he read the entire article" and that it "makes sense" to him to expose himself to a his son (doe the anti gay magic only work from father to son or will any adult penis to the trick?) to treat and prevent gayness.

It's interesting that the original link to Dobson's newsletter no longer works but you can easily find it on the web because many people were shocked and commented on it at the time

Keep in mind the title of the article   Dr. Dobson's Newsletter in June, 2002 was "Can Homosexuality Be Treated and Prevented?"

So apparenly seeing an adult penis is can somehow both Treat (aka - cure?) and Prevent gayness

I'm not sure if this has to be done in conjunction with the other things (rough and tumble games and then off ot the basement for some pounding of square pegs into square hole and then off the shower to see the adult penis) or if any of these are stand alone cures/preventative measures against gayness.  I have so many other questions.  Why square pegs and what's the purpose of teaching him to "pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard"? Will round pegs in round holes also work?

Bum - would you care to finally clear this for up for us?  

How exactly does this work?

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 02, 2016, 07:14:31 PM
Lindsey Graham May Back Ted Cruz as ‘Only Way to Stop Donald Trump’

The senator from South Carolina said the Republican Party might have to rally around Senator Ted Cruz to keep the nomination from going to Donald Trump. By REUTERS on Publish Date March 2, 2016. Photo by Gabriella Demczuk for The New York Times.

Senator Lindsey Graham, watching Donald J. Trump’s rise in Tuesday’s voting contests, now sees a colleague he reviles, Senator Ted Cruz, as the lesser of two evils to save the Republican Party.

“Ted Cruz is not my favorite by any means,” Mr. Graham told CBS News late Tuesday, as Mr. Trump was on course to win seven states. But he added, “We may be in a position where we have to rally around Ted Cruz as the only way to stop Donald Trump.”

For Mr. Graham, the South Carolina Republican who dropped out of the presidential race in December, the comment is a sea change. Mr. Cruz, the Texas senator, is far from beloved among most of his colleagues. Many of them still resent that he called the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, a “liar” in a speech on the Senate floor.

Mr. Graham has said, at least half jokingly, that if someone killed Mr. Cruz “on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.” That sentiment has been part of why a number of Republicans have moved toward another senator, Marco Rubio of Florida, as their best option for defeating Mr. Trump.

But late Tuesday, Mr. Graham suggested that the situation has become so dire that, at this point, the party should get behind Mr. Cruz.

“I can’t believe I would say yes. But yes,” he told the interviewer Charlie Rose.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/02/lindsey-graham-may-back-ted-cruz-as-only-way-to-stop-donald-trump/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2016, 03:03:18 PM
AP: Republican Leaders Starting to See Ted Cruz as Best Anti-Trump Alternative
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/03/GettyImages-513619606-640x480.jpg)
March 3, 2016 in Detroit, Michigan.
Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
by Breitbart News
6 Mar 2016
 
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders on Sunday grappled with the prospect that the best hope for stopping Donald Trump’s march to the nomination may be Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) – the only candidate who causes as much heartburn among party elites as the billionaire businessman, if not more.

The Texas senator split contests with Trump in Saturday’s voting, bolstering his argument that only he can defeat the real estate mogul. Trump and Cruz are now significantly outpacing Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)
in the delegate count, further shrinking the Florida senator’s already narrow path to the nomination.

If Rubio’s slide continues, he would be the latest establishment candidate to fall victim to an angry, frustrated electorate that cares little about endorsements from party leaders or newspaper editorial boards. Rubio has rolled out both at warp speed in recent weeks, but his appeal with voters is not keeping pace.

Rubio did pick up a victory Sunday in Puerto Rico’s primary, his second win of the 2016 cycle. Democrats were holding a caucus Sunday in Maine.

The wary interest in Cruz from more mainstream Republicans is the latest unexpected twist in a GOP race where talk of a contested convention or third-party candidate is becoming commonplace.

“If Ted’s the alternative to Trump, he’s at least a Republican and conservative,” South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said. While Graham made sure to note that it’s “not like I prefer Ted Cruz,” he encouraged Rubio and Ohio Gov. John Kasich to “decide among themselves” whether they can be a realistic alternative to Trump.

Mitt Romney, the 2012 GOP presidential nominee, said Cruz is indeed “emerging” as the chief anti-Trump candidate.

“I think a lot of people were surprised by how well Ted Cruz did,” said Romney, who has thrust himself back into the political discussion with a searing takedown of Trump in a speech last week.

Romney has stepped back into the spotlight at a moment of crisis and chaos for the Republican Party. Leaders in Washington who assumed hard-liners such as Cruz represented a minority view have been left wondering if they’re the ones out of step with voters.

For months, GOP elites have lumped Trump and Cruz together, arguing that neither could win in November’s general election. Cruz is an uncompromising conservative who has publicly criticized party leaders, including Senate Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY), R-Ky., for what he sees as a pattern of giving in too easily to President Barack Obama.

To many in the Senate, Cruz is seen as a colleague focused more on raising his own profile that achieving policy wins that benefit the party. He particularly angered Senate leaders when he helped orchestrate the 2013 government shutdown, which failed in achieving the senator’s stated goal of defunding Obama’s health care law.

But Cruz has built a loyal following among conservatives and evangelical Christians, and has proved to be a fundraising powerhouse during the 2016 campaign. After winning the leadoff Iowa caucuses, he’s also beaten Trump in five more states, more than any other candidate.

Trump still leads the field with at least 378 delegates, while Cruz has at least 295. Rubio and Kasich lag far behind in the race to reach the 1,237 delegates needed to clinch the Republican nomination.

Rubio and Kasich desperately need to win in their home states of Florida and Ohio on March 15 to have any credible case for staying in the race.

Trump’s lead has sparked a flurry of discussions among Republicans about complicated long-shot options to stop him. Rival campaigns are exploring ways to prevent Trump from getting the delegates he needs to win the nomination outright, then defeat him at the GOP convention in July. A small, but influential, group of Republicans has raised the idea of backing a yet-to-be-determined third-party candidate.

Trump has warned Republicans that they’ll lose his voters if they try to take the nomination away from him.

“We have a tremendous number of people coming in and a tremendous number of people showing up to vote,” he said Sunday. “The lines in all of the states that I’ve won have been, you know, record setting.”

The tumult in the Republican race is a sharp contrast to the Democratic primary, where Clinton appears to be steadily marching toward the nomination. Sanders has struggled to broaden his appeal beyond the loyal liberals and young voters attracted to his campaign.

Sanders insists he has a path to victory, particularly when voter turnout is high. “When large numbers of people come – working people, young people who have not been involved in the political process – we will do well,” Sanders said in an interview with The Associated Press.

Overall, Clinton had at least 1,123 delegates to Sanders’ 484, including superdelegates – members of Congress, governors and party officials who can support the candidate of their choice. It takes 2,383 delegates to win the Democratic nomination.

Graham and Romney spoke on NBC’s “Meet The Press.” Trump appeared on CBS’ “Face The Nation.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/06/ap-republican-leaders-starting-to-see-ted-cruz-as-best-anti-trump-alternative/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: headhuntersix on March 07, 2016, 03:41:35 PM
Some of Marco's folks are trying to get him to drop out before the 15th. All I want is Cruz vs Hil..our idea's vs their's. If the voting public reject it then fuck em, atleast we tried. Trump is a goddam disaster and he might actually win a general...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: polychronopolous on March 07, 2016, 04:01:21 PM
It's like Cruz is saying "poor little Marco, you just don't have what it takes"

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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2016, 04:36:25 PM
If you look at the polls and projections for the upcoming states, they are all over the place. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 07, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
Gov. Bryant endorses Cruz
Geoff Pender, The Clarion-Ledger
March 7, 2016
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(Photo: Justin Sellers/The Clarion-Ledger)

Gov. Phil Bryant, on the eve of Mississippi's presidential primary vote, has endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz, after meeting with him during a Cruz stop in Mississippi.

"I'm not going to get out and make a big show about it, but Sen. Cruz was in town today, and I met with him and gave him my endorsement," Bryant said. "It was a hard choice -- I know so many of them, Chris Christie, I know Jeb Bush, I know the ones still running now. They are good people ... But I am also looking toward November and I think if Ted Cruz is nominated, he has a good opportunity to defeat the Democratic nominee."

Bryant is close friends with former Texas governor and presidential hopeful Rick Perry, and said Perry's support of Cruz, "and that has played into my decision," Bryant said. He said he spent time with Cruz a couple of months ago at a Heritage Foundation function and was impressed by him.

"I like Marco Rubio," Bryant said. "I think he's true at heart. I just had to make the decision on who I think has the best chance to win in November and who I liked best as a candidate and as a person. Ted Cruz has gone to Washington and showed courage and grit to stand up to things he disagrees with."

Bryant said if requested, he would help campaign for Cruz in coming days and weeks across the country.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2016/03/07/bryant-cruz-endorse/81457274/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2016, 08:44:59 PM
Some of Marco's folks are trying to get him to drop out before the 15th.

he cannot wait any longer.   he's killing trump in early voting but losing by 16 points for those who go on election day (much more). 

rubio leaves the race tmorrow, and he still gets 15% of the vote, at this point. 

there's a small chance he wins FL, but it's very very small, and he's still toast in the delegate count.

Plus, all the shady shit coming out about him now on the underground right-wing sites... it'll be a disaster if he wins the nomination, folks.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 09, 2016, 09:16:00 AM
Carly Fiorina Endorses Ted Cruz: I Am 'Horrified' By Donald Trump
She made a surprise appearance at his rally in Miami.
 03/09/2016
Amanda Terkel
Senior Political Reporter, The Huffington Post

Carly Fiorina threw her support behind Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) Wednesday, saying it is time to have a "real constitutional conservative in the White House."

Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard CEO who dropped her own presidential bid in early February, made a surprise appearance at Cruz's rally in Miami Wednesday morning. She applauded him for defying the establishment and fighting for Americans' liberties "over and over again."

"Ted Cruz has stood up and fought for our right to bear arms. He has fought for our religious liberty. He has fought for our sovereignty. And he has won over and over and over," she said to cheers.

Fiorina was upfront about her distaste for Donald Trump, the current GOP front-runner, saying conservatives need to band together to stop him.

"There are other people in our party who are actually kind of horrified by Donald Trump. I'm one of them," she said. "But here's the thing: We're not going to beat Donald Trump by having leaders in our party tsk tsk over voters. We're going to have to beat Donald Trump at the ballot box. And the only guy who can beat Donald Trump is Ted Cruz."

She also compared Trump to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, saying they are both part of the system and therefore won't do anything to reform it.

Despite his dislike for the establishment, Cruz is increasingly trying to encourage the establishment wing of his party that he is the best alternative to Trump. Cruz picked up a win in Idaho Tuesday night, while Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) failed to win any states. They are largely banking on winning their delegate-rich home states in upcoming contests.

Cruz still has not received any endorsements from his fellow senators.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carly-fiorina-ted-cruz_us_56e043d4e4b065e2e3d44565
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 09, 2016, 10:10:09 AM
Dear Republicans, It's Ted Cruz
By Chris Stirewalt 
Published March 09, 2016 
FoxNews.com

DEAR REPUBLICANS, IT'S TED CRUZ

What is the rationale for Marco Rubio’s candidacy?

The latest poll out from the classiest and most reliable Florida pollster, Quinnipiac University, says there is none.

After a week of disappointing elections for Rubio, the Florida Q Poll is the dagger to the heart of his presidential aspirations. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush can be happy that while his own bid failed, at least he killed the one his campaign staff called "Judas." Enjoy Fisher Island.

The poll shows frontrunner Donald Trump doubling up Florida freshman Rubio with less than a week to go before the winner-take-all contest for 99 delegates. Coming after a disastrous election night it should be enough to send Rubio packing.

The only argument for Rubio’s continued candidacy was the “Romney Plan” in which voters should support any candidate in any race that can beat Donald Trump or deny him delegates. It worked pretty well in Michigan where Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas and Ohio Gov. John Kasich soaked up the majority of delegates with their tie for second place behind Trump.

But there is no hope that Rubio can be the guy to stop Trump in Florida anymore. While Republicans have resisted Cruz, despite his repeated successes, it may be time for the party to admit that Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., is quite right: Cruz is the only candidate who has any shot of denying Trump the nomination.

While there was a wintertime flirtation with Trump as the more establishment-friendly and malleable candidate for the GOP, springtime has brought a new realization that Trump could mean not just a general election wipeout, but also generational damage to the party’s brand. Cruz has never been the GOP’s dream date, but if he can beat Trump it may be enough.

As the latest WSJ/NBC News poll shows, Cruz runs best in a head-to-head matchup with Trump. It may be unthinkable for many country club Republicans that Cruz would be their best choice, but Rubio’s demise means that it is so.

Just two weeks ago, there were calls for Cruz to fall in behind Rubio for a unity ticket. Now, it seems very clear that unity will work in the other directions and that if the Republicans have a chance to stop Trump from taking over their party it will be Cruz at the top and Rubio as the junior partner.

The sincerity of Rubio’s attacks on Trump as a “con man” who is unfit for the presidency will be revealed by whether he not only drops out, but if he enthusiastically campaigns for Cruz in Florida for the next five days.

[GOP delegate count: Trump 458; Cruz 359; Rubio 151; Kasich 54 (1,237 needed to win)]

. . . .

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/09/dear-republicans-its-ted-cruz.html?intcmp=hpbt2
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 10, 2016, 10:03:00 AM
Mark Levin Endorses Cruz for President
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=c78c4aae-af91-46a5-bc3f-e63ddaf384fd&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Mark Levin Endorses Cruz for President 
By Greg Richter   |   Wednesday, 09 Mar 2016

Talk radio and TV host Mark Levin on Wednesday endorsed Texas Sen. Ted Cruz for president.

"If you're a conservative, if you're a constitutionalist, if you've been a tea party activist, if you're a Reaganite or a Reagan Democrat, it really is in the end a simple decision," Levin said on his newly launched Levin TV.

Levin said his endorsement was not an attack on the three other remaining candidates, businessman Donald Trump, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio or Ohio Gov. John Kasich, but rather an acknowledgement that Cruz "understands where this country has been and where it needs to go."

No candidate is perfect, he said, including his hero Ronald Reagan, but when looking at the whole picture, Cruz is the natural choice for conservatives.

He also said Cruz would "wipe the floor" with Democrat Hillary Clinton on the debate stage.

"We have said so many times, this is the kind of nominee we need to have," Levin said. "And it doesn't just happen. You have to vote for him."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/mark-levin-endorses-ted-cruz-president/2016/03/09/id/718357/#ixzz42WZZyuNA
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 10, 2016, 10:51:35 AM
Mark Levin Endorses Cruz for President

LOL!  He's been doing that on his show, nightly, for months now haha.

I didn't know he had to 'make it official'.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 10, 2016, 01:35:51 PM
Cruz Snares First Senate Endorsement from Mike Lee
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=7cfc6a4e-d2d6-40ca-8daa-c6dc7dcf4505&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Cruz Snares First Senate Endorsement from Mike Lee
Thursday, 10 Mar 2016

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz snared his first endorsement from a U.S. Senate colleague on Thursday when Senator Mike Lee of Utah backed him for the party's nomination.

"Ted doesn't believe you have to settle, Ted doesn't believe you should settle," Lee said at a Florida news conference ahead of Thursday's Republican debate in Miami.

Cruz, who represents Texas, is known for antagonizing senators from his party. In 2013, he spent more than 20 hours speaking on the Senate floor to protest the Affordable Care Act. Lee was among a handful of senators who helped Cruz during the protest.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/ted-cruz-mike-lee/2016/03/10/id/718509/#ixzz42XQY6HYz
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 11, 2016, 01:29:19 PM
Ted Cruz for President
(http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432682/ted-cruz-national-review-endorses-texas-senator-president)
(Andrew Burton/Getty)
by The Editors March 11, 2016

Conservatives have had difficulty choosing a champion in the presidential race in part because it has featured so many candidates with very good claims on our support. As their number has dwindled, the right choice has become clear: Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.

We supported Cruz’s campaign in 2012 because we saw in him what conservatives nationwide have come to see as well. Cruz is a brilliant and articulate exponent of our views on the full spectrum of issues. Other Republicans say we should protect the Constitution. Cruz has actually done it; indeed, it has been the animating passion of his career. He is a strong believer in the liberating power of free markets, including free trade (notwithstanding the usual rhetorical hedges). His skepticism about “comprehensive immigration reform” is leading him to a realism about the impact of immigration that has been missing from our policymaking and debate. He favors a foreign policy based on a hard-headed assessment of American interests, one that seeks to strengthen our power but is mindful of its limits. He forthrightly defends religious liberty, the right to life of unborn children, and the role of marriage in connecting children to their parents — causes that reduce too many other Republicans to mumbling.

That forthrightness is worth emphasizing. Conservatism should not be merely combative; but especially in our political culture, it must be willing to be controversial. Too many Republicans shrink from this implication of our creed. Not Cruz. And this virtue is connected to others that primary voters should keep in mind. Conservatives need not worry that Cruz will be tripped up by an interview question, or answer it with mindless conventional wisdom when a better answer is available. We need rarely worry, either, that his stumbling words will have to be recast by aides and supporters later. Neither of those things could be said about a lot of Republican nominees over the years.

We are well aware that a lot of Republicans, and even some conservatives, dislike the senator and even find him unlikable. So far, conservative voters seem to like him just fine. We do not wish to adjudicate all the conflicts between Cruz’s Senate colleagues and him. He has sometimes made tactical errors, in our judgment; but conflicts have also arisen because his colleagues have lacked direction, clarity, and urgency. In any case, these conflicts pale into insignificance in light of Republicans’ shared interest in winning in November and governing successfully thereafter.

No politician is perfect, and Senator Cruz will find that our endorsement comes with friendly and ongoing criticism. His tax plan is admirably growth-oriented but contains too much indirect taxation of employees. He has done little to lay out a plausible replacement for Obamacare, and especially to counter the idea that replacing it would involve stripping insurance from millions of Americans. His occasional remarks to the effect that the general election can be won by mobilizing conservatives who have been heretofore quiescent politically seems fanciful. As the nominee he will have to adopt a more empirically grounded strategy, just as he has done in the primaries.

What matters now is that Cruz is a talented and committed conservative. He is also Republicans’ best chance for keeping their presidential nomination from going to someone with low character and worse principles. We support Ted Cruz for president.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432682/ted-cruz-national-review-endorses-texas-senator-president
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 13, 2016, 07:39:47 PM
Neither Cabana Boy Rubio or Booger Eater Cruz has what it takes to beat Hillz.  It will be another wash out.  Oh....  I mean toss up.

Trump may can beat her.  I would actually consider voting for him just for the entertainment factor alone.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 17, 2016, 09:47:14 AM
SC Gov. Nikki Haley Backs Cruz After Rubio Drops Out
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Image: SC Gov. Nikki Haley Backs Cruz After Rubio Drops Out Gov. Nikki Haley (Photo by JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images)
By Todd Beamon   |   Wednesday, 16 Mar 2016

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley said Wednesday that she is backing Ted Cruz's run for the Republican presidential nomination — though not formally endorsing the Texas senator — now that Marco Rubio has quit the race.

"My hope and my prayer is that Sen. Cruz can come through so that he can push through and really get to where he needs to go," Haley told reporters in Columbia, The State reports. "Because we do want a strong leader.

"We do want somebody that's conservative," she added. "We do want somebody that's action-minded."

When asked specifically whether she endorsed Cruz, Haley said, "I very much want to see Sen. Cruz now be able to move through the ranks and get that top position."

Haley, 44, endorsed Rubio last month and campaigned throughout South Carolina with the Florida senator leading up to the state's March 1 primary. Rubio lost the race by 10 points to Donald Trump, finishing second.

He suspended his campaign after another bruising loss to the front-runner in Tuesday's Sunshine State primary. He also placed second.

Haley also congratulated John Kasich for his win in Ohio, adding that she would support the eventual nominee — even if it was Trump.

"Ask me when the time comes again, but as of now I strongly believe I will support the Republican nominee," she said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/nikki-haley-backs-cruz-rubio/2016/03/16/id/719462/#ixzz43BC0PJkp
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 18, 2016, 10:18:50 AM
Politico: Rubio Closer to Endorsing Cruz
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Image: Politico: Rubio Closer to Endorsing Cruz  (Getty Images)
By Loren Gutentag   |   Friday, 18 Mar 2016

Donald Trump's resounding win in Florida on Tuesday night helped force Sen. Marco Rubio out of the presidential race, but Politico notes the Florida senator is still making headlines as he is now close to endorsing his recent fierce rival Sen. Ted Cruz for the GOP nomination.

Although the two senators have some details to work out — Cruz has to ask for the endorsement and both need to decide if it will make a difference — Rubio was quoted as calling his Texas colleague "the only conservative left in the race," St. Paul Pioneer Press reported on Thursday.

However, when asked about a Cruz endorsement, Rubio told reporters, "I don't have any announcement on that today."

He added, "There's time to prevent a Trump nomination, which I think would fracture the party and be damaging to the conservative movement."

According to Politico, the two senators have similar conservative voting records in the Senate and mostly only disagree on immigration reform and some foreign-policy matters.

And while "Dump Trump" movements are growing, pressure from conservative activists is mounting on Rubio to block Trump from the GOP nomination and join other former rivals, such as Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., in backing Cruz.

"He doesn't want to look like Jeb Bush," said a Rubio backer.

"By the time Jeb quit, he had no credibility and his endorsement meant nothing, which is part of the reason we suspect he didn't endorse Marco in Florida. It wouldn't have helped, and we didn't want it anyway."

Although Cruz's campaign did not confirm or deny discussions with Rubio, Politico reports that one adviser made it clear Cruz would appreciate Rubio's support.

"Obviously, there are a lot of conversations going on with a lot of people, and that includes Rubio's people," a Cruz adviser said. "Look, if Lindsey Graham is endorsing Ted that should tell you something."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rubio-closer-endorsing-cruz/2016/03/18/id/719715/#ixzz43HAeaHwR
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 21, 2016, 10:27:38 AM
Poll: Cruz soars ahead in Utah
By Evelyn Rupert
March 19, 2016
(http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/blogs/cruzted_022616getty.jpg?itok=DP6PIUd4)

A new poll shows Texas Sen. Ted Cruz with a steep lead in the Utah GOP presidential caucuses that could award him all of the state's delegates if it holds.

A Y2 Analytics survey released Saturday puts Cruz with 53 percent of the vote, according to The Salt Lake Tribune. He is followed by Ohio Gov. John Kasich with 29 percent and Donald Trump at 11 percent.
Utah has 40 delegates, and a candidate will take all of them if he receives a majority vote. Candidates have to reach 15 percent of the vote to win delegates.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273677-poll-cruz-soars-ahead-in-utah
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 21, 2016, 10:31:09 AM
Pennsylvania Judge Rules Cruz 'Natural Born Citizen'
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=b05b49db-73ba-44f9-9315-71321545d201&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Pennsylvania Judge Rules Cruz 'Natural Born Citizen'
By Greg Richter   |   Sunday, 20 Mar 2016

A Pennsylvania judge has ruled that Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's name can appear on that state's GOP presidential primary ballot in April, reports LawNewz.com, adding that the story got scant attention despite its ramifications.

While the Wall Street Journal reported on the ruling in a blog post, LawNewz writer Rachel Stockman writes that not much else has been said, despite front-runner Donald Trump's earlier assertions that Cruz's eligibility would be tied in the courts for years.

"This weekend, it occurred to me, this issue has faded from the public eye. The major media outlets stopped talking about it (maybe because Trump has moved on to other things.) But, it remains an important and largely unresolved question," Stockman writes.

The suit – and others across the country – have focused on whether Cruz can even serve as president because he was born in Canada.

There are two schools of constitutional thought on that question. While there is no debate that the president must be a "natural born citizen," some legal scholars say that Cruz meets that criterion since his mother was a U.S. citizen. Others argue that while his mother's citizenship does grant him citizenship at birth, it does not make him a "natural born citizen" allowed to serve as president since he was born on foreign soil.

Other courts have tossed out the so-called "birther" claims against Cruz on procedural grounds, including that the plaintiffs didn’t have standing to bring the suits, Stockman notes.

But Pennsylvania Senior Judge Dan Pellegrini actually ruled on the merits of the case and found Cruz to be a natural born citizen.

One document used by Pelligrini is a 1968 memo by then-General Counsel of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service Charles Gordon.

"The Framers were well aware of the need to assure full citizenship rights to the children born to American citizens in foreign countries," Gordon argues in the memo.

Then there is a 2011 Congressional Research Service Memo titled, "Qualification for President and the 'Natural Born' Citizenship Eligibility Requirement."

That document reads: "The weight of legal and historical authority indicated that the term 'natural born' citizen would mean a person, who is entitled to U.S. citizenship 'by birth' or 'at birth' either by being born 'in' the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents."

Further, Pelligrini quotes a Harvard Law Review article by constitutional scholars Paul Clement & Neal Katyal who, though coming from different sides of the political aisle, say, "as Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And the phrase 'natural born citizen' in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/pennsylvania-judge-cruz-natural/2016/03/20/id/720021/#ixzz43YlJTbNJ
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 22, 2016, 03:37:29 PM
Mia Love endorses Cruz before Utah caucus
By Mark Hensch
March 22, 2016
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The only black, female Republican in Congress endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) for president on Tuesday, the day of her state’s GOP caucuses.

“America faces difficult challenges and pressing problems at home and abroad,” Rep. Mia Love (Utah) said in a statement. "There has never been a greater need for courage and courageous leaders."

Without mentioning Republican front-runner Donald Trump by name, Love sought to draw a distinction between what she sees as a campaign based on "angst and anger" and one of substance.

“Because I believe we need a president with less bravado and more real courage to act on conservative principles, I will be casting my vote Tuesday for Ted Cruz," she continued. "He has proven himself to be a principled, courageous leader with a positive agenda for our future.”

Love said Cruz reflected the values she wants to see in White House.

“I want a president who is interested in reducing the power of the presidency and federal government — not expanding it,” she said.

"I want a president I know I can count on to sign into law the kinds of bills I have introduced related to higher education, eliminating massive bills filled with pork and perks for the well-connected, serving our veterans and creating jobs for hardworking Americans.”

Cruz leads his GOP presidential primary rivals by 21 points in the Beehive State, according to a Deseret News/KSL poll released Monday. Margin of victory will be very important in Utah: If one Republican nets more than 50 percent of the vote, he will automatically get all 40 delegates.

Love previously backed Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) last year, arguing he is “very strong” on national security and foreign policy necessary for keeping America safe.

Rubio suspended his Oval Office bid last week after a disappointing second-place finish in his home state’s GOP presidential primary.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/273904-utah-rep-endorses-cruz-before-gop-caucuses
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2016, 12:43:46 PM
Ted Cruz endorsed by Jeb Bush and Club For Growth
Steph Solis and David Jackson, USA TODAY
March 23, 2016

Ted Cruz picked up a couple of prominent endorsements Wednesday, one from former Republican opponent Jeb Bush and another from the anti-tax group Club for Growth.

In announcing his support, Bush described the Texas senator as "a consistent, principled conservative who has demonstrated the ability to appeal to voters and win primary contests, including yesterday’s Utah caucus."

The former Florida governor also blasted Cruz's primary opponent, GOP front-runner Donald Trump: "For the sake of our party and country, we must overcome the divisiveness and vulgarity Donald Trump has brought into the political arena or we will certainly lose our chance to defeat the Democratic nominee, most likely Hillary Clinton, this fall."

Club for Growth President David McIntosh, making his organization's first-ever presidential endorsement, described Cruz as "the best free-market, pro-growth, limited-government candidate in the presidential race."

McIntosh said Club for Growth got involved because of what he called "a vast gulf between the two leading Republican candidates on matters of economic liberty," adding that Trump "would seek to remake government in his desired image."

The endorsements are the latest signs of the Republican establishment embracing Cruz, as party leaders look to block Trump's nomination.

Cruz won Tuesday's caucuses in Utah, but Trump won Arizona's primary, thereby extending his delegate lead in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

Bush dropped out of the GOP presidential race on Feb. 20, the night of a poor performance in the South Carolina primary. Bush had failed to win in any of the first three GOP contests, despite having launched his race last year as the front-runner, with a vast campaign war chest and the backing of the Republican establishment.

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Bush's campaign ran aground in part because of slashing attacks from Trump, who labeled him the "low energy" candidate.

The former Florida governor did not endorse anyone during his state's primary, including his former protege, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.

In picking Cruz, Bush also passed up the only remaining governor in the race, John Kasich of Ohio.

Cruz welcomed Bush's endorsement, calling it "further evidence that Republicans are continuing to unite behind our campaign to nominate a proven conservative to defeat Hillary Clinton in November."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/2016/03/23/jeb-bush-endorses-republican-sen-ted-cruz-president/82153686/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 24, 2016, 08:11:59 PM
NY Court Dismisses Cruz Birther Lawsuit
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Image: NY Court Dismisses Cruz Birther Lawsuit
Thursday, 24 Mar 2016

A New York appeals court on Thursday upheld a lower court's dismissal of a suit seeking to remove Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz from the state's primary ballot because of his Canadian birth.

The New York Appellate Division agreed with the lower court ruling that the suit should be thrown out because it missed the deadline for filing an objection to Cruz's appearance on the April 19 ballot. Lawyers for Cruz successfully argued that the objectors had filed their petition nearly three weeks late.

The appeals judges said they would not address the merits of the case, saying they were "academic."

Roger Bernstein, a lawyer for the petitioners, said his clients intend to appeal the decision.

New York residents Barry Korman, 81, of Manhattan, and William Gallo, 85, of Manhasset, had filed the suit, arguing that because Cruz was born in Canada, he is not a "naturally born" citizen as the Constitution dictates for a U.S. president.

Cruz has defended himself against similar claims in multiple states, saying he was a U.S. natural born citizen at birth because of his mother's U.S. citizenship at the time.

Cruz was born in 1970 in Calgary, Alberta.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-canadian-birth-suit/2016/03/24/id/720759/#ixzz43sezSfkQ
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 28, 2016, 09:03:15 AM
Shock Poll: Cruz Closing on Trump in Golden State
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Cruz Gestures Toward TrumpPaul Sancya/AP
by MATTHEW BOYLE
27 Mar 2016
Washington, DC

A new poll out from the Los Angeles Times shows the race for the Golden State between billionaire Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), and Ohio Gov. John Kasich tightening.

Among registered GOP voters, Trump leads Cruz and Kasich with 37 percent to Cruz’s 30 percent and Kasich’s 12 percent.

“Riding a rebellion fueled by opposition to illegal immigration and pessimism about the nation’s future, Donald Trump leads a scrambling duo of competitors less than three months before California’s Republican presidential primary, a new USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times statewide poll has found,” Cathleen Decker of the Times wrote of the publication’s new poll.

The survey, according to cross tabs, asked the presidential preference of 391 registered Republicans from March 16 to March 23—producing the 37 to 30 Trump lead over Cruz with Kasich lagging behind at 12 points and with a margin of error of 5.5 percent.

The seven-point lead is slightly smaller than the low double digit leads Trump has enjoyed in previous Golden State polling done in March, albeit by rival firms to the Los Angeles Times and USC Dornsife. One poll had Trump up 11 points over his competitors, while another had him up 16 points.

There’s another interesting wrinkle in the polling data, in that the Los Angeles Times and USC Dornsife also narrowed down the sample to “likely voters” in the GOP primary and found an even closer race. That sample size, according to RealClearPolitics, which used that slice of the poll in its polling averages for the California primary rather than the wider registered GOP voters sample, was slightly smaller at 332 likely GOP voters.

Decker’s piece briefly addresses this in the copy—and includes a chart further explaining it—but the cross tabs data on the poll only includes the results for the wider registered GOP voters sample, and there is no explanation in either place for the discrepancy in the results or how the pollsters determined someone who was a registered GOP voter was “likely” to turn out on June 7.

“But among the voters most likely to turn out, the poll shows the race between Trump and Cruz is nearly tied, with Trump at 36% versus Cruz at 35%,” Decker wrote. “The difference illustrates how a low turnout in the June 7 primary could hurt Trump and boost Cruz.”

On the cross tabs page of the polling, the results among the “likely” voters section has no data regarding this different sample set, making the omission even more interesting. The cross tabs released do include the full data on the registered voters question, and break down how Trump gets to 37 percent in that sample, and so on.

The last time the Los Angeles Times did a poll of the California GOP presidential primary was back between August 29 and September 8, and that poll was done among registered GOP voters—and no effort was made to clarify any difference between “registered” and “likely” voters. Back then, Trump was still in front—but with only 24 percent as compared to 37 percent now—and Cruz was down at just six percent. Kasich wasn’t even on the map and only achieved two percent in thef California poll last summer.

Regardless of which set of numbers one believes in this new poll, neither is good for Trump—though the latter is bad for the billionaire frontrunner. While he’s still ahead in delegate-rich California, which awards 172 delegates by congressional district on June 7, a tightening race means a protracted battle with Cruz, with Kasich, and with the GOP establishment hellbent on destroying Trump’s ascendency to the White House. Polls tightening this far away–more than two months–from a particular contest is never good for Trump, who has, many times, seen his massive polling leads shrink at least a little bit before contests.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/27/shock-poll-cruz-closing-on-trump-in-golden-state/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2016, 10:01:54 AM
Scott Walker Endorses Cruz for '3 Simple Reasons'
By Newsmax Wires   
Tuesday, 29 Mar 2016

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker endorsed Ted Cruz  in the Republican presidential race on Tuesday, a week before the state's primary.

Walker made his endorsement on Twitter and on Charlie Sykes' radio show on WTMJ in Milwaukee.

And, the Wisconsin governor issued this statement:

"After eight years of the failed Obama-Clinton Administration, Americans are looking for real leadership and a new direction. Ted Cruz is a principled constitutional conservative who understands that power belongs to the states – and to the people – and not bureaucrats in Washington," Walker said in the statement.

"Just like we did in Wisconsin, Ted Cruz is not afraid to challenge the status quo and to stand up against the big government special interests. He is the best-positioned candidate to both win the Republican nomination and defeat Hillary Clinton. That’s why I endorse Ted Cruz for President of the United States."

Appearing on Sykes' influential radio show, Walker said he decided to endorse Cruz 'for three simple reasons.'

He is a constitutional conservative

"I know as a governor and like other governors across the country we need a leader in Washington who understands that the founders intended fr the power really to be in the states and most importantly in the hands of the people and not concentrated in Washington," Walker said. "Ted Cruz not only believes that but has shown he’s willing to act on that."

He's taken on "big government special interests"

"That’s something that Ted Cruz has not only talked about in this campaign, but has shown he is not afraid to take on those interest and that’s exactly what we need as president as well," Walker said.

He's positioned to win.

"If you look at the facts and look at the numbers, Ted Cruz is the best positioned to both in the nomination of the Republican Party and to go on to defeat Hillary Clinton this fall."

He underscored his reasons for backing Cruz in a series of Twitter posts.

Cruz also took to Twitter to thank his one-time rival.

GOP front-runner Donald Trump said on Twitter Monday night that he was not expecting Walker's support.

Walker, whose short-lived run for president ended in September, had previously said he would back whatever candidate is chosen as the GOP nominee, but has been sending signals he intends to back Cruz.

Walker said last week that Cruz was the only candidate who had a chance at beating front-runner Donald Trump. When Walker ended his presidential bid, he called on others to join him so it would be easier to take on Trump.

"I am a big, big fan of Scott Walker's," Cruz told reporters before a campaign stop in central Wisconsin. "He is a terrific governor and strong conservative. ... Of course, I would welcome Scott Walker's support."

Cruz pointed to Walker's career-defining push against public-sector unions in 2011, a fight that Walker won and that led to an effort to recall him from office. Walker won that election in 2012, making him the first governor to defeat such an effort, raising his national profile in advance of his failed presidential run.

Cruz said Walker's fight with the unions showed that special interests could be defeated.

"It inspired people all over the country, it inspired millions, it inspired me," Cruz said. "It is that spirit, that fight, that's at the heart of what our campaign is all about."

When he was running for president, Walker argued that the next president should be a governor with executive experience. But Ohio Gov. John Kasich, while campaigning last week in Wisconsin, said he had no idea whom Walker was going to back.

Material from The Associated Press, Reuters and Bloomberg was used in this report.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Scott-Walker-endorses-Ted-Cruz/2016/03/29/id/721297/#ixzz44JQ1SLip
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on March 29, 2016, 02:49:51 PM
PPP Poll: Cruz Surging to Tie Trump Nationally    
Tuesday, 29 Mar 2016

Billionaire developer Donald Trump and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz are virtually tied in a head-to-head race among Republican presidential voters, according to a national poll released Tuesday.

Here are the results of the latest Public Policy Polling survey of 505 GOP voters, conducted between Thursday and Saturday:

•Trump: 46 percent.
•Cruz: 44 percent.

However, in a battle involving Ohio Gov. John Kasich, the New York developer leads the field:

•Trump: 42 percent.
•Cruz: 32 percent.
•Kasich: 22 percent.

The survey also found that 51 percent of Kasich supporters would back Cruz, versus 23 percent who said they would vote for Trump.

"The Republican race nationally would be a toss-up if it was just Trump and Cruz," said Dean Debnam, president of Public Policy Polling, in analyzing the results.

"But as long as Kasich stays in there splitting the anti-Trump vote, Trump continues to be in a good position," he said.

The poll has a margin of error of 4.4 percent.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-ties-trump-ppp/2016/03/29/id/721368/#ixzz44KaObuoV
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on March 31, 2016, 08:15:45 PM
Scott Walker Endorses Cruz for '3 Simple Reasons'

1) He wants to be veep.
2) See #1
3) See #1
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2016, 10:19:03 AM
Cruz Wins Key Delegate Battle in North Dakota
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Image: Cruz Wins Key Delegate Battle in North Dakota
By Greg Richter   |   Sunday, 03 Apr 2016

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz claimed a win in North Dakota's Republican convention on Sunday, where the party elected 25 undeclared delegates to attend this summer's national nominating convention.

"I'm thrilled to have the vote of confidence of Republican voters in North Dakota who delivered such a resounding victory today," Cruz said in a statement on his website headlined, "Cruz Declared Winner in North Dakota."

"As I met them over the weekend, North Dakota Republicans recognized that I am the only candidate who can move this country forward by protecting freedom and liberty," Cruz said. "Whether we defeat Donald Trump before the convention or at it, I’m energized to have the support of the vast majority of North Dakota delegates."

Technically, Cruz won no delegates in North Carolina, but neither did front-runner Donald Trump or Ohio Gov. John Kasich, whose only hope at the nomination is that neither Cruz nor Trump secures enough delegates before the convention begins to win the needed 1,237 required to take the nomination on the first ballot.

Unlike pledged delegates elected by most states, North Dakota's 25 delegates can vote for anyone they please at Cleveland's convention on the first vote, and are likely to hear from all three campaigns pitching their candidates up until that time.

The New York Times reported a battle over whether the delegates should be pledged or unpledged, and Cruz likely sees the result as a win because the state's "North Dakota Nice" image likely doesn't mesh as well with Trump's brash persona.   

Trump and Kasich may not consider the outcome a win for themselves. Neither had commented on social media about North Dakota late Sunday.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cruz-win-delegates-north-dakota/2016/04/03/id/722077/#ixzz44sZaAWK9
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2016, 01:57:13 PM
I think it's over for Cruz.  Too many Qs about the extra-curricular stuff (from republican sources) that appear valid.  His lawyer-speak when denying it, the absolute stack of items just sitting there waiting for him to be the nominee... and the way he did tell serious lies a lot... disappointing. 

I think the only hope for a conservative to do well is to pick one at the convention.  Too much leverage hanging over his head.  Yes, Rubio didn't release the hotel video, but hilary sure as shit will.  Only a fool can spend an hour looking at the laundry list of accusation items and not thing there's something to it.  Only a fool will call bullshit without actually looking up #thething going back to march when team rubio was shopping the video, and think it's all imaginary. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: GigantorX on April 04, 2016, 02:03:02 PM
I think it's over for Cruz.  Too many Qs about the extra-curricular stuff (from republican sources) that appear valid.  His lawyer-speak when denying it, the absolute stack of items just sitting there waiting for him to be the nominee... and the way he did tell serious lies a lot... disappointing. 

I think the only hope for a conservative to do well is to pick one at the convention.  Too much leverage hanging over his head.  Yes, Rubio didn't release the hotel video, but hilary sure as shit will.  Only a fool can spend an hour looking at the laundry list of accusation items and not thing there's something to it.  Only a fool will call bullshit without actually looking up #thething going back to march when team rubio was shopping the video, and think it's all imaginary. 

You're still going with this?

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2016, 03:12:42 PM
You're still going with this?



Drudge report on Facebook claiming Ted Cruz phone number was on the dc madam list.  Photographs and everything.  

Politically timed to wreck him in Wisconsin, yes, but it's multiple calls and matches up the call girl reports in the national enquirer.  

Cruz banged hookers.  The only hope for conservatives now is a brokered convention. 

Everyone called bullshit when it broke.  Well, pieces of it are coming out now.  I'll get shit on for posting it... But drudge didn't make up hooker phone logs.  
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on April 04, 2016, 04:40:05 PM
Drudge report on Facebook claiming Ted Cruz phone number was on the dc madam list.  Photographs and everything.  

Politically timed to wreck him in Wisconsin, yes, but it's multiple calls and matches up the call girl reports in the national enquirer.  

Cruz banged hookers.  The only hope for conservatives now is a brokered convention. 

Everyone called bullshit when it broke.  Well, pieces of it are coming out now.  I'll get shit on for posting it... But drudge didn't make up hooker phone logs.  

I saw this story last week (about the attorney saying he was going to release the records and that it would impact the 2016 campaign)

would be very fun if true, though I doubt Ted will ever admit it

If it happened in the 1990's (before he married his wife) he might be able to deny it and just ride it out.

It's just a number in a book.  No way to know if it's real.

Now of the DC Madam were still alive and could affirm it's true that would be a different story

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2016, 04:51:47 PM
You're still going with this?



Are you surprised?  Of course he is running this tabloid stuff.  Gutter politics. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 04, 2016, 04:53:44 PM
Call it tabloid politics?   Drudge has it now.  I guess the gutter just graduated.  It's real now.  You only trust mainstream sources, well, it's mainstream now. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on April 04, 2016, 05:02:05 PM
Are you surprised?  Of course he is running this tabloid stuff.  Gutter politics.  

that never seemed to bother you when a Democrat was the subject

BTW - The Supreme Court added this (the attorneys request to release the records) to their dockett last week

I know you considered yourself well informed so I'm sure you new that already

Weird that the Supreme Court would get involved in "tabloid stuff"

http://dailybail.com/home/bad-news-for-lyin-ted-supreme-court-adds-dc-madam-case-to-of.html
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
Call it tabloid politics?   Drudge has it now.  I guess the gutter just graduated.  It's real now.  You only trust mainstream sources, well, it's mainstream now. 

How absurd.  Drudge isn't a news site.  What story did Drudge link?  Post it. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Skeletor on April 04, 2016, 05:06:26 PM
Are you surprised?  Of course he is running this tabloid stuff.  Gutter politics. 

And yet this is somehow not gutter politics... Typical...

Is this the image we want of our First Lady?

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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 04, 2016, 05:09:06 PM
And yet this is somehow not gutter politics... Typical...



Nope. Not at all.  But I'm glad you are reading and following along.   :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Straw Man on April 04, 2016, 05:16:41 PM
Nope. Not at all.  But I'm glad you are reading and following along.   :)

How about this which I think was put out by a so called Anti-Trump SuperPac

Still not gutter politics in your mind?

Cruz never repudiated it which he could and should have

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2016, 10:08:32 AM
WATCH: Megyn Kelly Asks Cruz If He Ever Had an Affair
Apr 04, 2016 // 2:30pm
As seen on The Kelly File

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) adamantly denied that he has ever had an extramarital affair during an interview with Megyn Kelly that will air tonight.

The subject came to light recently in a National Enquirer story that claimed Cruz had "five secret mistresses."

"Have you committed adultery in your marriage?" Kelly asked.

"I have not. That attack was complete and utter garbage. It was complete lies," said Cruz in front of a crowd of supporters in Madison, Wisconsin.

"I have always been faithful to my wife. I love my wife. She is my best friend in the whole world."

At the time, Cruz accused Donald Trump's "henchmen" of being behind the tabloid article. Trump has denied having anything to do with it.

Cruz also told Kelly that he's no longer concerned about what Trump says.

"I don't care what he says anymore. I don't care what he tweets," said Cruz, adding that it was a "miracle" that Trump admitted he was wrong to re-tweet an unflattering image of Heidi Cruz.

Watch a sneak preview of the interview in the report above and another clip below.

Watch "The Kelly File" tonight at 9:00pm ET for the full hour-long sit-down with Sen. Cruz, which is part of a powerful Fox News primetime lineup that features all three GOP candidates.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/04/megyn-kelly-asks-ted-cruz-if-he-ever-had-affair
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2016, 04:52:22 PM
Cruz Takes Lead for First Time in Reuters National Poll
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Image: Cruz Takes Lead for First Time in Reuters National Poll
By Todd Beamon   |    Tuesday, 05 Apr 2016
 
For the first time, Ted Cruz Tuesday surpassed Republican presidential rival Donald Trump nationally in the weekly Reuters tracking poll — by just two points after a week of debacles ranging from the front-runner's switches on abortion to his campaign manager being charged with simple battery for allegedly grabbing a news reporter.

Here are the results of the poll:

•Cruz: 39 percent.
•Trump: 37 percent.
•John Kasich: 23 percent.

The New York billionaire has regularly cited the Reuters tracking poll in speeches and television interviews.

Meanwhile, Cruz has pulled into a statistical dead heat with Trump, a different Reuters/Ipsos national poll showed on Tuesday, as the Texas senator appeared poised to pick up a key victory in Wisconsin's primary.

Cruz received 35.2 percent of support to Trump's 39.5 percent, the poll of 568 Republicans taken April 1-5 found. The numbers put the two within the poll's 4.8 percentage-point credibility interval, a measure of accuracy. Cruz and Trump were also briefly in a dead heat on March 28.

The U.S. senator from Texas was running ahead of Trump in Wisconsin according to opinion polls as voters in the state went to the polls on Tuesday. Cruz hopes a win in Wisconsin would show he can unite disparate factions of the party and break Trump's momentum.

Trump has led almost continually in national Reuters/Ipsos polling since last July. Ohio Governor John Kasich, the only other Republican still in the race for the party's nomination, placed third in Tuesday's Reuters/Ipsos poll, with 18.7 percent.

Facing possible defeat in Wisconsin on Tuesday, Trump proposed blocking money transfers to Mexico by undocumented immigrants as a way to pressure Mexico to pay for a border wall, a key component of his controversial immigration plan, which has won votes in other states.

Trump's campaign said in a memo that if elected, he would use a U.S. anti-terrorism law to cut off remittances from people living in the United States illegally. The memo elaborated on an idea Trump floated in August, when he suggested seizing all remittances tied to "illegal wages."

Asked about Trump's remittances plan, Democratic President Barack Obama called it unworkable. "The notion that we're going to track every Western Union bit of money that's being sent to Mexico, good luck with that,” Obama said at a White House press briefing.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/cruz-takes-lead-reuters/2016/04/05/id/722438/#ixzz4500rFN7t
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: obsidian on April 05, 2016, 05:42:14 PM
Nope. Not at all.  But I'm glad you are reading and following along.   :)
Pot calling the kettle black. Hypocrite!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2016, 06:11:21 PM
Pot calling the kettle black. Hypocrite!

Oh you got me.  lol   :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2016, 06:19:09 PM
I watched a portion of her town hall interview yesterday.  Seems like a nice lady, but definitely not someone I'd want as First Lady. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 12:09:13 AM
You would rather have a first lady who is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations?

You know, the group Ted called "“a pernicious nest of snakes” that is working to “undermine our sovereignty.”

The one HIS WIFE is a member of....haha, good ol' lyin' Ted. Shoe fits.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: GigantorX on April 06, 2016, 07:16:47 AM
You would rather have a first lady who is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations?

You know, the group Ted called "“a pernicious nest of snakes” that is working to “undermine our sovereignty.”

The one HIS WIFE is a member of....haha, good ol' lyin' Ted. Shoe fits.

Is or was a member of the CFR?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 09:29:39 AM
You would rather have a first lady who is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations?

You know, the group Ted called "“a pernicious nest of snakes” that is working to “undermine our sovereignty.”

The one HIS WIFE is a member of....haha, good ol' lyin' Ted. Shoe fits.

I just looked at the membership roster and didn't see Heidi Cruz's name.  http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=C

And even if she was a member, would I rather have her as First Lady than Trump's trophy wife as First Lady?  Yes. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
She WAS until he decided to run. Those tea party/libertarian leanings were a farce. He's a globalist just like Hillary.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 01:05:55 PM
http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102


HEIDI S. CRUZ is an energy investment banker with Merrill Lynch in Houston, Texas. She served in the Bush White House under Dr. Condoleezza Rice as the Economic Director for the Western Hemisphere at the National Security Council, as the Director of the Latin America Office at the U.S. Treasury Department, and as Special Assistant to Ambassador Robert B. Zoellick, U.S. Trade Representative. Prior to government service, Ms. Cruz was an investment banker with J.P. Morgan in New York City.






^^^^^^^^   Read it.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 01:08:00 PM
And by the way, that's the CFR site from Canada.

I want to hear the defense of this.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 01:11:19 PM
What needs to be defended? 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Well...first off you have Ted playing dumb about it....just like you are in your response.

So Cruz is the Canadian/Hispanic guy married to a woman who was in a think tank that considers the USA just part of North America.

They believe we are best to be bundled up economically with Mexico and Canada against common American interests....and because of that NAFTA and the like is okay.

You okay with that? Because I don't hear your boy saying any of that. In fact he takes opposite positions. This wasn't 20 years ago...we're talking 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 01:41:12 PM
Further if you actually like Cruz based on what he says and has done in the last couple years and don't question how dramatically he has re-positioned himself as the fake outsider in the GOP you are beyond reasoning with. I would have to assume you didn't support him as a candidate until the 2013 shutdown. Up until the shutdown where was he in the establishment? Deep - very, very deep in there.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 01:52:44 PM
Well...first off you have Ted playing dumb about it....just like you are in your response.

So Cruz is the Canadian/Hispanic guy married to a woman who was in a think tank that considers the USA just part of North America.

They believe we are best to be bundled up economically with Mexico and Canada against common American interests....and because of that NAFTA and the like is okay.

You okay with that? Because I don't hear your boy saying any of that. In fact he takes opposite positions. This wasn't 20 years ago...we're talking 5 years ago.


I don't accept any of you say at face value, especially when you begin by calling Cruz a Canadian. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 01:53:38 PM
Further if you actually like Cruz based on what he says and has done in the last couple years and don't question how dramatically he has re-positioned himself as the fake outsider in the GOP you are beyond reasoning with. I would have to assume you didn't support him as a candidate until the 2013 shutdown. Up until the shutdown where was he in the establishment? Deep - very, very deep in there.

I'm supposed to reason with someone calling Ted Cruz a Canadian?  Who is a 9/11 Troofer?  Who believes we faked the moon landing?  Nah.   :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
Right. That would be convenient for you. I'm making light of it, lost on you - again - but at the same time I know you see generally where I'm coming from here.

Do you want a president of North America then? To decrease the power and sovereignty of the USA....that's okay with you?

Because if you support Cruz for what he says, that would be the opposite of what his platform is...

Defend your guy and stop deflecting. Show me how reasonable a person is that knows the above but won't acknowledge it.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
Right. That would be convenient for you. I'm making light of it, lost on you - again - but at the same time I know you see generally where I'm coming from here.

Do you want a president of North America then? To decrease the power and sovereignty of the USA....that's okay with you?

Because if you support Cruz for what he says, that would be the opposite of what his platform is...

Defend your guy and stop deflecting. Show me how reasonable a person is that knows the above but won't acknowledge it.

I live in the real world.  We don't have a president of North America.  I don't buy into your conspiracy theory nonsense.  Maybe Ozmo will entertain you.  He's a lot more tolerant with this crap than me.  I just mock it.   :) 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 02:09:11 PM
I'm supposed to reason with someone calling Ted Cruz a Canadian?  Who is a 9/11 Troofer?  Who believes we faked the moon landing?  Nah.   :)


I thought it was liberals that used name-calling to discredit people with differing opinions and skate around the issues.

Huh....learn something new every day.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 02:10:38 PM
Then defend the real-world issues I raised above and stop smoke-screening.

Is Cruz the guy he says he is?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 02:33:38 PM

I thought it was liberals that used name-calling to discredit people with differing opinions and skate around the issues.

Huh....learn something new every day.

This isn't about differing opinions.  It's about elementary school conspiracy theories. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 02:35:05 PM
Then defend the real-world issues I raised above and stop smoke-screening.

Is Cruz the guy he says he is?

What does that even mean?  He is a Manchurian Candidate?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
This isn't about differing opinions.  It's about elementary school conspiracy theories. 

The US Sec of State "letting Benghazi attacks happen" to affect an election or for other political gains is a conspiracy theory.  A popular one, too.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 04:54:41 PM
The US Sec of State "letting Benghazi attacks happen" to affect an election or for other political gains is a conspiracy theory.  A popular one, too.

Tin foil hat.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2016, 04:58:15 PM
Cruz Outmaneuvering Trump in GOP Delegate Fight
Wednesday, 06 Apr 2016

While the focus of the Republican presidential campaign shifts eastward to the New York primary, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is pivoting west, where he is quietly trying to chip away at Donald Trump's lead in the race for convention delegates.

Cruz won six pledged delegates during a pair of obscure, congressional-level Colorado GOP assemblies on Saturday.

He is also poised to make gains in several other western Republican contests, including a possible sweep of Colorado's remaining assemblies, due to conclude Saturday.

Cruz's success in the complex delegate game is helping him counter Trump's headline-grabbing wins in big states and would give the Texas senator a tactical advantage should the party's presidential nomination come down to a rare contested convention.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who backs Ted Cruz for president, said the GOP nomination fight was "very likely" headed to an open convention but the 36 delegates Cruz won on Tuesday are "locked in." Trump won six delegates in the state.

Under Wisconsin Republican Party rules, delegates must stick with the candidate they are pledged to until they are either released by that candidate or if the person fails to get a third of the vote at the convention after the first round.

"Ted Cruz will win on the second ballot if not on the way in and he will unite the party," Walker, who withdrew his presidential candidacy, said in an interview Wednesday on WTMJ radio in Milwaukee.

The actual delegates who will represent Cruz and Trump at the convention are being selected over the next month.

Meanwhile, a Republican aide says top campaign advisers to Ohio Gov. John Kasich plan to meet with leading GOP activists in Washington.

The meeting Wednesday aims to discuss the presidential candidate's strategy for continuing his campaign and battling for the nomination at the party's Cleveland convention in July.

The aide, who spoke anonymously because the details have not been made public, says Ohio Republican Sen. Rob Portman helped organize Wednesday's session. Portman is a long-time friend of Kasich and was his colleague when Kasich was in Congress.

The meeting comes a day after a GOP Wisconsin presidential primary in which Texas Sen. Ted Cruz was victorious over businessman Donald Trump and Kasich. The only contest the Ohio governor has so far won was in his home state, but he continues to compile a modest number of delegates — delegates that could be crucial in the tight race for the nomination.

Those attending Wednesday's meeting include Kasich top strategist John Weaver and Charlie Black, a long-time Republican operative now advising Kasich's campaign, the aide said.

Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-outmaneuvering-trump-in/2016/04/06/id/722610/#ixzz455sytfBO
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: GigantorX on April 06, 2016, 04:59:37 PM
Doesn't matter there is solid irrefutable proof (I don't have it, look yourself) that Cruz was calling hookers in Texas.

His number is on the list!
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 06, 2016, 11:11:22 PM
Tin foil hat.

ALL THOSE repubs that say hilary let benghazi happen...

they're just as bad as the 911 troofers?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2016, 11:45:35 PM
This isn't about differing opinions.  It's about elementary school conspiracy theories. 


No name calling and then sticking your head in the sand.

Was Cruz' wife in the CFR or not? Let's start there. You tried to say she was not as a knee jerk reaction.

Cruz was talking shit about the CFR when he knew his wife was a former member. No?

Based on his platform this is a huge inconsistency at the least. No?

I don't know you or if you actually believe Cruz, but if you are trying to say you don't care what he does or why then fine. I'll just assume you vote GOP and whomever they put in front of you will be gladly voted for without thought or question.

You take the time to attack my credibility based on a good bit of nuanced sarcasm you frankly just don't get....but then won't seriously address the above. It's strange to me why that would be.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 07, 2016, 09:57:01 AM
ALL THOSE repubs that say hilary let benghazi happen...

they're just as bad as the 911 troofers?

"I dont' have the info."
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 07, 2016, 09:59:23 AM

No name calling and then sticking your head in the sand.

Was Cruz' wife in the CFR or not? Let's start there. You tried to say she was not as a knee jerk reaction.

Cruz was talking shit about the CFR when he knew his wife was a former member. No?

Based on his platform this is a huge inconsistency at the least. No?

I don't know you or if you actually believe Cruz, but if you are trying to say you don't care what he does or why then fine. I'll just assume you vote GOP and whomever they put in front of you will be gladly voted for without thought or question.

You take the time to attack my credibility based on a good bit of nuanced sarcasm you frankly just don't get....but then won't seriously address the above. It's strange to me why that would be.


I didn't try to say anything.  I looked at their membership roster and didn't see her name.  You called her a current member.  Are you now saying she is a former member?

In any event, I don't care if Heidi Cruz is or was a member of the CFR.

Your embracement of loony conspiracy theories is "nuanced sarcasm"?  lol  Ok.  Whatever. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 07, 2016, 10:40:37 AM
G.O.P. Donors, Eager to Defeat Donald Trump, Learn to Love Ted Cruz
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MATT FLEGENHEIMER
APRIL 7, 2016

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Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, flanked by State Senator Ruben Diaz Sr., outside Sabrosura 2 in the Bronx on Wednesday while campaigning ahead of New York’s presidential primary. Credit Todd Heisler/The New York Times

Nestled in the neo-Georgian sanctuary of the Knickerbocker Club, one of New York’s oldest and fustiest social establishments, a select group of Republican donors gathered late last month to take up an unexpected task: reconsidering Ted Cruz.

Eager to defeat Donald J. Trump, they seemed willing to overlook a few things: Mr. Cruz’s fiery attacks on Wall Street and “special-interest billionaires,” and his swipes at eminent party leaders and lawmakers. But one wealthy financial executive had a question: What did you mean when you attacked Mr. Trump for having “New York values”?

“I didn’t mean to attack people in New York,” said Mr. Cruz, a senator from Texas, explaining that he had been criticizing the state’s policies, not its populace. “I love New York.”

Of all the teeth-gritting alliances being forged over opposition to Mr. Trump’s rampaging bid for the Republican presidential nomination, few are as unlikely as the emerging bond between Mr. Cruz and his party’s elite donor establishment.

Since Mr. Cruz’s election to the Senate in 2012, many traditional Republican donors have spurned him, viewing him as a hopeless ideologue whose antics — particularly his leading role in the 2013 government shutdown — damaged the party in service of his ambitions.

But in recent weeks, at small events from the Upper East Side of Manhattan to the Republican precincts of Newport Beach, Calif., they are learning to love Mr. Cruz.

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Mr. Cruz addressing a crowd at the Hyatt Regency Green Bay on Sunday. He won the Republican primary in Wisconsin on Tuesday. Credit Hilary Swift for The New York Times

“That was then,” said Anthony H. Gioia, a Buffalo businessman and ambassador to Malta under President George W. Bush who expects to meet with Mr. Cruz in the coming weeks. “And now is now.”

Bolstered by Mr. Cruz’s overwhelming win in Wisconsin on Tuesday, his campaign is moving aggressively to take advantage of the thaw, reaching out to some of the party’s most prominent donors to seek a hearing. Many — though not all — said they were now far more inclined to take the senator’s calls. Former backers of Jeb Bush and Senator Marco Rubio of Florida have hosted fund-raising events or meet-and-greets for Mr. Cruz, even while some privately concede that they have their doubts about his temperament.

“Lots of people are giving him a second look,” said John A. Catsimatidis, a New York investor and grocery store magnate who attended the event at the Knickerbocker Club. “People are scared of Donald Trump, that’s why.”

Starting on Friday in Las Vegas, Trusted Leadership, the chief “super PAC” supporting Mr. Cruz, will host a gathering intended to draw new donors to the group, until now financed by a handful of wealthy families. Not coincidentally, the event will be held at the Venetian, the casino hotel owned by the Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson, perhaps the most sought-after contributor of all.

Kellyanne Conway, the president of Trusted Leadership, summed up how prominent donors’ view of the Cruz-Trump fight had evolved. “It’s not just, ‘Would you rather be shot or poisoned?’ ” she said. “Now it’s, ‘This isn’t so bad.’ ”

One goal is to pry loose some of the large-scale money that went to candidates like Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush earlier in the campaign. In recent months, as Mr. Cruz rose, some of the party’s wealthiest donors, such as the billionaire New York investor Paul Singer and the Ricketts family, chose to pour money into super PACs that are directly attacking Mr. Trump, rather than openly backing Mr. Cruz.

But the courtship is a delicate one. Some donors said that if Mr. Cruz was perhaps not their ideal choice for president — or even their third or fourth choice — he now seemed to be the only candidate with enough delegates to force a contested convention and deny Mr. Trump the nomination.

“It’s never really been a part of his brand, to be the unifying figure who could bring together the party, and it certainly was never part of his pitch,” said Chris DeRose, an Arizona lawyer who raised money for Mr. Rubio. “But the specter of Trump has done wonders to show us the downsides of losing this primary.”

For Mr. Cruz, help from establishment donors could dilute his outsider message and provide a new cudgel for Mr. Trump, who has denounced rivals for their dependence on contributions from the wealthy and powerful.

But as Mr. Cruz prepares for a long march to the Republican convention in July in Cleveland, he would not mind those donors’ help: His campaign, long powered by a loyal cadre of small contributors, spent far more money than it raised in January and February — burning through about $10 million more than it took in. (At his Wisconsin victory speech, Mr. Cruz said that the campaign had raised more than $2 million on Tuesday alone.)

Forty percent of his overall cash has come from small donors, many in Texas, and only about a fifth of his money for the primary has come from donors giving the maximum $2,700 contributions. At the end of February, according to the most recent financial disclosures, the campaign reported about $8 million cash on hand.

Mr. Cruz’s challenge is to broaden his reach in the world of midlevel Republican fund-raisers — those who can raise tens or hundreds or thousands of dollars for his campaign — and among the elite group of billionaires who could write larger checks to the super PACs supporting him.

But doubts remain. Mr. Catsimatidis, one of about 30 people who attended the event at the Knickerbocker Club, pronounced Mr. Cruz “very, very smart,” but he said he wondered why “out of 100 people in the Senate, 99 don’t like him.”

Mr. Cruz is not always good at asking for help, sometimes giving the impression that he could as easily do without it. Even in private, donors said, he can be prone to sanctimony, disinclined to adjust his television-ready populism. Allies view Mr. Cruz’s uncompromising style as a virtue, but they concede it can make life difficult on the donor circuit.

Asked what was the biggest worry of prospective supporters, Doug Deason, a major Cruz donor in Dallas, did not hesitate.

“I think his personality, mostly,” Mr. Deason said, before defending him as likable to those who get to know him.

A wider embrace by donors has also been hampered in some quarters by genuine political disagreement between more middle-of-the-road potential donors and Mr. Cruz, a professed conservative purist on economic and social issues.

Andy Sabin, a former Bush supporter who runs a Long Island precious metals company, said that when a fund-raiser from Mr. Cruz’s campaign reached out recently, he insisted on one condition.

“I told him, ‘For me to have any interest in Ted, I need him to accept that the earth has warmed, and that we can solve the problem and create plenty of jobs,’ ” Mr. Sabin recalled. Mr. Sabin said that he was offered a spot on one of Mr. Cruz’s policy advisory committees, but that when he still asked that Mr. Cruz publicly voice a belief in climate change, he never heard back. Even a signal in the right direction would have been enough for him, Mr. Sabin said.

“All he had to do was say, we think it’s an issue for the general election, and maybe put Ted on the phone,” Mr. Sabin said, adding, “I felt I was being hustled for a donation.”

Mr. Cruz has reported raising only a few thousand dollars from registered lobbyists — a mainstay of fund-raising for Mr. Rubio and Mr. Bush — suggesting that he is still a tough sell among those he continues to deride as the “Washington cartel.”

Instead, Mr. Cruz and his surrogates are leaning heavily on his credentials as a supporter of Israel, now the most robust of any candidate. Many pro-Israel Republican donors had already backed him, and while in Washington recently to speak before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or Aipac, Mr. Cruz attended a fund-raiser tied to the event. Last month, he also gained the support of Fred Zeidman — a board member of the Republican Jewish Coalition who previously backed Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Mr. Bush — and his son, Jay.

“There is no more staunch and vocal supporter of the state of Israel than Ted Cruz has been,” the elder Mr. Zeidman said. “And it is the primary reason I felt I had to support him.”

Elsewhere, support for Mr. Cruz has required fewer caveats. He is regarded warmly among Republicans in his home state, Texas, where he has deeper personal relations with a wider portion of the donor class. For longtime Cruz fund-raisers there who seek to expand Mr. Cruz’s fund-raising footprint in other corners of the country, it has been a heady few weeks. There are new calls to make and pitches to massage, given many audiences’ deep reservations.

“We weren’t their No. 1 draft pick,” Mica Mosbacher, a Cruz fund-raiser based in Houston and New York, said of her discussions with new prospects. Ms. Mosbacher is among the supporters assigned to attest to Mr. Cruz’s charms.

“I call him a steady Eddie,” she said, before paraphrasing a Cruz answer from a past debate. “He might not be the most fun to have a drink at the bar with, but America needs a designated driver.”

Mr. Cruz has taken to making light of his détente with former critics and opponents, donors and otherwise. When Mr. Cruz appeared recently on “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” the late-night host took note of his patience in winning new friends.

“What you did is, you kind of held out until they found someone that they liked less than you,” Mr. Kimmel said.

“There you go,” Mr. Cruz replied. “Listen, it is a powerful strategy.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/us/politics/ted-cruz-donors.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: James on April 07, 2016, 11:20:22 AM
Here's Why Cruz is likely to Sweep Colorado This Week

Colorado has been allocated 37 delegates to the Republican National Convention. They select 34 of those delegates through a multi-step district and state convention process. The Colorado Republican Party calls these conventions “Assemblies”. There are seven congressional assemblies, each awarding three delegates. In addition, a state assembly will award 13 delegates. Two of the assemblies took place last weekend and the remaining take place between tonight and Saturday April 9, 2015.

The delegates that are selected at these assemblies can choose to be bound and can also run as unbound delegates. The process by which the delegates are selected benefits a well-organized campaign. If a campaign had not been organizing since February to get its people elected at precinct caucuses — as explained below — it is too late now to start the process.

The available pool of delegates for each assembly were picked in a series of 2,917 precinct caucuses on March 1, 2016. To be eligible to participate in the caucus you needed to be registered as a Republican by January 4, 2016. If you were not, you could not participate in the caucus. Each caucus selected delegates to county assemblies. There was no presidential preference poll at these caucuses.

Between March 1, 2016 and March 26, 2016 county assemblies met to select delegates to the state and district committees.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/04/heres-why-cruz-is-likely-to-sweep-colorado-this-week
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 07, 2016, 09:13:57 PM
I didn't try to say anything.  I looked at their membership roster and didn't see her name.  You called her a current member.  Are you now saying she is a former member?

In any event, I don't care if Heidi Cruz is or was a member of the CFR.

Your embracement of loony conspiracy theories is "nuanced sarcasm"?  lol  Ok.  Whatever. 


Well, there you go then. You don't care what your candidate says or stands for or what his wife is associated with then...just what party he is in. My point is complete and now I know what I'm dealing with.

And yes, when I said that I've seen things about the moon landing that would make your head spin it was more about your black and white thinking process than my belief in it. But....as I said lost on you.

I listened to some Levin tonight, seems you get your talking points from his show being that he also believes if you see a flaw of any kind in Cruz that you are a "kook" or "conspiracy nut". I like Levin but I think he's going to get burned on this one.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 07, 2016, 09:20:44 PM
I listened to some Levin tonight, seems you get your talking points from his show being that he also believes if you see a flaw of any kind in Cruz that you are a "kook" or "conspiracy nut". I like Levin but I think he's going to get burned on this one.

Dos Excuses has been like this for a decade.   He once said that oil, profit, region and bases had nothing to do with Iraq invasion... we only invaded for democracy lol.  He cannot sleep without a moral clarity which is only achieved thru delusion.

I listened to some Levin tonight, seems you get your talking points from his show being that he also believes if you see a flaw of any kind in Cruz that you are a "kook" or "conspiracy nut". I like Levin but I think he's going to get burned on this one.

I love Levin... by FAR, he's my favorite FOX host... by a mile... but he's so attached to Cruz at this point, he CANNOT accept any of this affair talk.  

BUT...

Levin quietly steered back a bit toward trump today, saying we shouldn't hate on trump, just because we like Cruz.   Levin has said more bad things about Trump than any Dem I know lol!  BUt he's hedging his bets - and he started TODAY - and I think it's because of the looming Cruz sex scandal(s).

See Levin re-welcome repubs to Donald Trump today ;)
http://www.westernjournalism.com/cruz-supporter-mark-levin-has-a-shocking-message-for-anti-trump-republicans-its-not-what-you-think/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2016, 09:58:04 AM

Well, there you go then. You don't care what your candidate says or stands for or what his wife is associated with then...just what party he is in. My point is complete and now I know what I'm dealing with.

And yes, when I said that I've seen things about the moon landing that would make your head spin it was more about your black and white thinking process than my belief in it. But....as I said lost on you.

I listened to some Levin tonight, seems you get your talking points from his show being that he also believes if you see a flaw of any kind in Cruz that you are a "kook" or "conspiracy nut". I like Levin but I think he's going to get burned on this one.

Actually, all I said was I don't care if Heidi Cruz is or was a member of the CFR. 

I know exactly what I'm dealing with:  a 9/11 Troofer who also believes the government faked the moon landing.  No reasonable person takes that kind of nonsense seriously. 

I don't listen to Levin's show.  You conspiracy theory nuts have wild imaginations. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 08, 2016, 10:05:57 AM
I don't listen to Levin's show.  You conspiracy theory nuts have wild imaginations. 

Are you calling Mark Levin a conspiracy theorist?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2016, 10:07:09 AM
Are you calling Mark Levin a conspiracy theorist?

 ::)  Troll. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Skeletor on April 08, 2016, 12:43:52 PM

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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 08, 2016, 09:13:37 PM
Actually, all I said was I don't care if Heidi Cruz is or was a member of the CFR. 
 





Which again to my point is a faulty stance if you listen to anything Cruz says about policy. This is like talking to a wall.

I'll bet when Bush said "you're either with us or against us" that was right up your alley.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2016, 09:26:29 AM




Which again to my point is a faulty stance if you listen to anything Cruz says about policy. This is like talking to a wall.

I'll bet when Bush said "you're either with us or against us" that was right up your alley.

No.  It simply means I don't care if Heidi Cruz is or was a CFR member. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2016, 09:31:39 AM
Ted Cruz Wins Majority of Delegates in Colorado
By JEREMY W. PETERS
APRIL 8, 2016
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Senator Ted Cruz at an event in Scotia, New York, on Thursday. The candidate hopes to build momentum leading up to the state’s primary on April 19, after gaining ground in Colorado’s caucuses. Credit Nathaniel Brooks for The New York Times

COLORADO SPRINGS — Senator Ted Cruz captured a majority of Colorado’s delegates to the Republican National Convention on Friday, outmaneuvering Donald J. Trump, whose lack of an organized national campaign once again allowed Mr. Cruz to gain at his expense.

As the fight for the Republican campaign moves into a period in which a handful of delegates could decide the nomination, Mr. Trump’s losses here were a troubling sign.

Colorado awards its delegates differently from the way most states do. Instead of holding a statewide primary — the kind of contest Mr. Trump is used to commanding through his dominating and ubiquitous media presence — it is using a series of caucuses.

Before this week, registered voters selected local delegates, who tend to be more conservative party loyalists, ones Mr. Trump has had trouble winning over. Those delegates, in turn, have been voting this week on delegates to the national convention, most of whom are pledging their support to one candidate or another.

By Friday night, Mr. Cruz had taken 21 of the state’s 37 national delegates. Mr. Trump and Gov. John Kasich of Ohio had none. Thirteen others will be decided on Saturday at the state convention. Mr. Cruz, who has built a statewide network of supporters that includes conservative members of Congress, state legislators and grassroots activists, is expected to do well there, too. The remaining three delegates are party leaders who are automatically appointed.

He is the only candidate scheduled to speak to the group. Mr. Trump was invited but is not planning to attend. Mr. Kasich will send a surrogate, John Sununu, the former New Hampshire governor.

Last week, Mr. Trump struggled to pick up support at the North Dakota Republican convention, a process similar to Colorado’s. Mr. Cruz appeared to have at least several backers among the 28 delegates elected there. But because they are not officially committed to any candidate, no one could claim a lock on the state’s delegation.

At one of the Colorado district caucuses on Friday afternoon, the strength of Mr. Cruz’s organization was on full display. The campaign flew in Representative Jim Bridenstine, Republican of Oklahoma, to give the crowd a pep talk.

“Senator Ted Cruz has been in the trenches over and over and over again fighting for the conservative constitutional principles that we hold dear,” he said. Delegate candidates strolled up and down the aisles holding Cruz campaign signs with their names and ballot position written in marker.

A small group of Trump volunteers wearing blue “Make America Great Again” hats aided his efforts, passing out their preferred delegate slates and cheering from the back of the ballroom.

Alan Cobb, an adviser to the Trump campaign who was in Colorado Springs on Friday to manage the delegate efforts, set expectations low. A pickup of one delegate would be worthwhile, he said, given how little effort the campaign had put into the state.

“We made the conscious decision back in October that Colorado, because of the structure, just didn’t make sense for us to invest a lot of time and resources in,” he said.

“It doesn’t lend itself to the kind of campaign we have and the folks who support us.”

After Colorado, the Trump campaign plans to focus on Wyoming, which will name a slate of delegates next weekend.

The campaign will then turn to larger prizes like Pennsylvania, which has a trove of uncommitted delegates who are likely to be a decisive factor in determining the party’s nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/us/politics/ted-cruz-wins-majority-of-delegates-in-colorado.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 11, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
No.  It simply means I don't care if Heidi Cruz is or was a CFR member. 


Which is why the old time neo-con packaged up as an anti-establishment candidate is your guy. You don't care if he carries on the charade or not.

Hard for me to understand how anybody could be fooled by it, but this explains it.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2016, 08:13:05 AM

Which is why the old time neo-con packaged up as an anti-establishment candidate is your guy. You don't care if he carries on the charade or not.

Hard for me to understand how anybody could be fooled by it, but this explains it.

HAHAHA.

Moot issue overall.  Cruz has no chance of winning if he gets the nomination anyway.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2016, 09:21:23 AM

Which is why the old time neo-con packaged up as an anti-establishment candidate is your guy. You don't care if he carries on the charade or not.

Hard for me to understand how anybody could be fooled by it, but this explains it.

The mind of a conspiracy theory nut at work.  You people cannot function without making up wild scenarios. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 12, 2016, 03:52:57 PM
HAHAHA.

Moot issue overall.  Cruz has no chance of winning if he gets the nomination anyway.




Even if he did win he has the same globalist views as Hillary, which guarantees the status quo continues. The social issues are just worked in to divide people.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 12, 2016, 03:56:21 PM
The mind of a conspiracy theory nut at work.  You people cannot function without making up wild scenarios. 



I'll bet you own a book written by Karl Rove, haha.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2016, 04:05:23 PM


I'll bet you own a book written by Karl Rove, haha.

I'll bet you also believe the government was behind the 93 WTC bombing.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2016, 04:48:38 PM
I'll bet you also believe the government was behind the 93 WTC bombing.

Why don't YOU explain the FBI's exact involvement in the 1993 WTC, if any.

I don't think you know. ;)

Cue an insult or vague dodge. Unless you actually know.  Which I doubt.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2016, 04:50:09 PM
Why don't YOU explain the FBI's exact involvement in the 1993 WTC, if any.

I don't think you know. ;)

Cue an insult or vague dodge. Unless you actually know.  Which I doubt.

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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2016, 04:52:16 PM
I'll bet you also believe the government was behind the 93 WTC bombing.

see, only an ignorant person would intro a topic without the ability to explain it himself.

Are you an ignorant person?  YOU brought it up.  Now YOU should explain what actually happened, what the FBI's level of involvement was.  Was it zero? Were they working with terrorists to bust them, but the real bombs were switched from fake ones? 

Explain what really happened.  Or just admit you start things without any actual knowledge of them. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2016, 04:55:26 PM
see, only an ignorant person would intro a topic without the ability to explain it himself.

Are you an ignorant person?  YOU brought it up.  Now YOU should explain what actually happened, what the FBI's level of involvement was.  Was it zero? Were they working with terrorists to bust them, but the real bombs were switched from fake ones? 

Explain what really happened.  Or just admit you start things without any actual knowledge of them. 

LOL!  I really do feel sorry for you.   :-\ 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2016, 05:21:38 PM
LOL!  I really do feel sorry for you.   :-\ 

personal attack instead of responding to a topic you started ;)

haha you're awesome bro.  you people.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
personal attack instead of responding to a topic you started ;)

haha you're awesome bro.  you people.

You conspiracy theory screwballs are some seriously deranged individuals.  

Sorta redundant.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2016, 08:33:06 PM
You conspiracy theory screwballs are some seriously deranged individuals. 

Sorta redundant.

why did you introduce the 93 WTC topic?  You did this in the past with some CTs that you WANTED discussed... you'd start them as screwballs when nobody was even talking about that.

You're trying to undermine clinton with this CT talk.  You're TRYING to get that discussion going.  You do this now and then.  We see it.  "Oh, let's get a big discussion going on what happened on bill's watch..."

We know.  We see it.  You fool nobody.  You want CT talk.  Nobody here gives a shit.  Just you, pal.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2016, 09:22:35 AM
why did you introduce the 93 WTC topic?  You did this in the past with some CTs that you WANTED discussed... you'd start them as screwballs when nobody was even talking about that.

You're trying to undermine clinton with this CT talk.  You're TRYING to get that discussion going.  You do this now and then.  We see it.  "Oh, let's get a big discussion going on what happened on bill's watch..."

We know.  We see it.  You fool nobody.  You want CT talk.  Nobody here gives a shit.  Just you, pal.

I didn't introduce a topic.  I mocked him.  Like I mock you.  Like I'll mock any idiot embracing the loony conspiracy theories that you do.  It's sad you don't realize how gullible you are. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2016, 10:02:33 AM
I didn't introduce a topic.  I mocked him.  Like I mock you.  Like I'll mock any idiot embracing the loony conspiracy theories that you do.  It's sad you don't realize how gullible you are. 

Did he bring up WTC93, or did you?

You always do that - you bring up terrible CTs and try to pretend you are mocking them, but you're the one starting the discussion on them.

YOU want to talk about WTC93.  Even the CTers don't give a shit about it.  but YOU do.  YOU want to bring up old conspiracy theories.  We all see it ;)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
Did he bring up WTC93, or did you?

You always do that - you bring up terrible CTs and try to pretend you are mocking them, but you're the one starting the discussion on them.

YOU want to talk about WTC93.  Even the CTers don't give a shit about it.  but YOU do.  YOU want to bring up old conspiracy theories.  We all see it ;)

Sad.  Very sad.   :-\ 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2016, 10:22:33 AM
New Jersey Judge Rejects Birther Lawsuit Against Ted Cruz
In other words, he is still eligible to be America’s next president.
04/13/2016
Amanda Terkel
Senior Political Reporter, The Huffington Post
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Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) received some good news in New Jersey on Tuesday.

A New Jersey judge has affirmed that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is a “natural born citizen” under the U.S. Constitution and is therefore still eligible to be president.

Throughout the primary campaign, Donald Trump has encouraged doubts about whether Cruz can technically be president, since he was born in Canada. The senator maintains that he is a citizen because of his American-born mother, and he renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014.

Donald J. Trump  ✔‎@realDonaldTrump
It's time for Ted Cruz to either settle his problem with the FACT that he was born in Canada and was a citizen of Canada, or get out of race
3:26 AM - 25 Jan 2016

Trump supporters have picked up this cause and filed lawsuits in various states challenging Cruz’s eligibility. 

On Tuesday, however, state Administrative Law Judge Jeff Masin sided with Cruz.

“The more persuasive legal analysis is that such a child, born of a citizen-father, citizen-mother, or both, is indeed a ‘natural born citizen’ within the contemplation of the Constitution,” he concluded.

The suit, brought by a group of New Jersey residents and a Catholic University of America law professor, was intended to prevent Cruz from appearing on the state’s ballot on June 7.

The issue now goes to New Jersey Secretary of State Kim Guadagno (R), who can decide whether to accept or reject Masin’s decision. Guadagno is also lieutenant governor to Gov. Chris Christie (R), who has endorsed Trump.

Victor Williams, one of the challengers in the lawsuit, said he has “full confidence that Kim Guadagno in Hamilton Township will do the right thing and reject Mr. Cruz’s falsified ballot petition and certificate.” If she does not, he told The Record, he will challenge her decision in state court.

Trump has gained national attention over the years for being a birther, most notably going after President Barack Obama.

Donald J. Trump  ✔‎@realDonaldTrump
An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud.
10:23 AM - 6 Aug 2012

In February, Trump tried to do the same to Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) — who was born in Miami to immigrant parents — claiming that the senator might not be eligible to be president either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-citizen_us_570e5716e4b08a2d32b880f0
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2016, 12:03:37 PM
Alan Dershowitz: Yes it is TRUE that Ted Cruz was one of the smartest I ever taught

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2016, 12:53:48 PM
dos equis,

Only YOU keep bringing up WTC93.   Let that shit go.   

I know you are trying to discredit hilary or whatever with these old conspiracies.  But it's out of line. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 13, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
Good point.  I should focus on other nefarious cover ups, like this outrageous one:

(https://planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/b530a-image160.jpg)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 13, 2016, 07:17:52 PM
Good point.  I should focus on other nefarious cover ups, like this outrageous one:

Dos Equis,

Why did you introduce the 1993 WTC conspiracy theory into this board?   Did you hate CLinton?  Do you hate America?  Do you doubt the official story?

Nobody just "accidentally" invokes a tragedy from almost 25 years ago.   You had a purpose.  If you're doing it because you sympathize with those who attacked us, so help me...
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2016, 09:39:12 AM
Dos Equis,

Why did you introduce the 1993 WTC conspiracy theory into this board?   Did you hate CLinton?  Do you hate America?  Do you doubt the official story?

Nobody just "accidentally" invokes a tragedy from almost 25 years ago.   You had a purpose.  If you're doing it because you sympathize with those who attacked us, so help me...

I don't take you seriously.  You know that.  I've been calling you a nut for ten years already.  I mention your loony conspiracy theories all the time.  No reasonable person on this board takes you seriously.  And if you ever leave the house in real life and interact with real people, those folks will laugh your dumb @$$ out the door too if you start talking about this crap.  Seriously, you sound like someone who should be confined to a mental hospital. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 14, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
Cruz eyes double-agent delegates in bid to snatch GOP nomination from Trump
By S.A. Miller - The Washington Times -
Wednesday, April 13, 2016

Sen. Ted Cruz’s hopes for winning the Republican presidential nomination outright have faded, and he has shifted to a strategy of gaming the rules, angling to send enough double-agent delegates to the July convention to snatch victory from front-runner Donald Trump.

It’s a major reversal for Mr. Cruz, who just weeks ago insisted he would win the 1,237 delegates needed to clinch the nomination before the convention. But major wins in Utah, Wisconsin and Colorado have not closed the gap, with a series of East Coast primaries looming.
 
2001, Bush gave Americans $300 to $600 checks. Now Obama is giving out cash again. Claim by: Apr 18.
Now the best option for the senator from Texas is trench warfare at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland.

“I think it’s very simple. The odds are now very high that we go to a contested convention,” he said in a radio interview Tuesday with conservative media honcho Glenn Beck, who has endorsed Mr. Cruz.

“When we get to a contested convention, here’s what’s going to happen: I’m going to have a ton of delegates, Donald’s going to have a ton of delegates, and it’s going be a battle to see who’s going to win a majority,” Mr. Cruz said. “In Cleveland, I believe, we will have an enormous advantage.”

Indeed, Mr. Cruz has proved masterful at working Republican Party rules to pick up extra delegates at state conventions, including in Louisiana, where Mr. Trump won the primary but Mr. Cruz walked away with more delegates.

The Cruz campaign also has excelled at recruiting double-agent delegates, who are bound to Mr. Trump but are loyal to Mr. Cruz. Under party rules, they will be free to switch their votes on the second, third or fourth ballots at the convention.

“Cruz basically has people going there saying, ‘I’m bound to vote for Trump, but Cruz’s machine got me here,’” said Republican political strategist Rob Collins.

He said it puts Mr. Cruz in an enviable position as long as the race ends up at a contested convention.

“More and more pressure is being put on the other candidates to try to win the first ballot or go home,” Mr. Collins said. “The Trump campaign has built everything around winning on the first ballot. That math is still a better possibility for Trump, but it is getting more and more challenging as the days go by.”

After scoring a big win this month in Wisconsin, Mr. Cruz has lost momentum on the campaign trail.

In nearly every remaining contest in April, including those in New York, Connecticut, Maryland and Pennsylvania, Mr. Trump holds commanding leads and Mr. Cruz is battling for second place against Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

“Cruz is not even going to be finishing second for the next couple of weeks. He’s going to be distant thirds in a lot of places,” Trump campaign convention manager Paul Manafort said this week on Fox News’ “Hannity” program.

He predicted that Mr. Trump would reach the 1,237-delegate goal with the final primary contests June 7, which include California, where 172 delegates are up for grabs.

“The whole premise of the Cruz campaign of a second ballot misses the point,” Mr. Manafort said. “There’s not going to be a second ballot.”

Still, the likelihood of a convention fight with multiple ballots has put much of the focus of the race on rules.

Mr. Trump, who has complained that the Republican establishment’s rules are “stacked against me,” announced Wednesday that he hired veteran political strategist Rick Wiley to run the statewide field operations.

“His deep ties to political leaders and activists across the country will be a tremendous asset as we enter the final phase of securing the nomination,” said Mr. Trump.

Mr. Wiley has strong relationships within the Republican Party establishment and ran Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s presidential campaign.

In the radio interview, Mr. Cruz accused Mr. Trump of acting like a gangster because a political operative associated with the Trump campaign threatened to reveal delegates’ hotel room numbers in Cleveland.

“Donald needs to understand he’s not Michael Corleone,” Mr. Cruz said, referring to a character from “The Godfather” films. “I understand Donald has had some very shady business deals with people that are currently in prison — mobsters — but the presidency should not be La Cosa Nostra.”

“Donald needs to stop threatening the voters,” the senator said. “He needs to stop threatening the delegates. He is not a mobster.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/13/ted-cruz-eyes-double-agent-delegates-in-bid-to-sna/?page=2
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on April 20, 2016, 05:03:09 PM
The Corner The one and only. Ink Ted Cruz to a Four-Year Contract
Nicholas Frankovich April 17, 2016

Ted Cruz dominates the delegate-selection process in Louisiana and Colorado. Trump then erupts in flustered indignation, sounding like Mom in the old joke:

Mom: How was the game?
Son: Great. I went 3 for 4 and stole second base.
Mom: Well, you march yourself right back to school and put it back.

You would think that, instead of jeering at Cruz for his hustle, Trump fans would boo their own candidate for fielder’s indifference. He just stands there, fuming and whining, watching as his opponent circles the bases.

Cruz plays hard but clean. Trump talks tough but plays soft. He speaks roughly but (sorry, I’m only staying close to the Teddy Roosevelt aphorism here) carries a small stick.

The Atlanta Braves back in 1977 had extended their losing streak to 16 games when owner Ted Turner fired the manager, donned a uniform, sat in the dugout, and attemped to manage the team himself. He fast found himself in over his head. The third-base and bullpen coaches rushed in to back him up. The Braves lost again, 2–1.

Turner had been fervent. He had clapped his hands and shouted encouragement from the dugout. A “rah-rah kind of guy” is how Braves infielder Darrel Chaney described him. Turner was earnest. But he wasn’t serious. The next day, league officials ordered him to stop embarrassing his club and the game.

“When things are going bad, there are 10,000 guys in the stands who think, ‘If I could just take over this ball club for a while, I’d straighten them out,’” Turner explained. He was right about the guys in the stands: That’s what they think. To his chagrin, he proved them wrong.

Donald Trump is a rah-rah kind of guy. He’d make at least a serviceable bench jockey, one might argue: He scowls at the opposing team and sends hostile tweets. But even those are lame. He has no wit. To the war of words that is the race for the White House, he brings the verbal intelligence of a child. His signal-to-noise ratio is low. His fans don’t care, because the noise is loud. They think it’s a contest of decibels.

Trump thinks that judges sign laws and that the Supreme Court conducts criminal investigations. He doesn’t know anything about anything and won’t do any homework. Feckless, he wobbles and vacillates, all the while protesting incoherently, making a drama out of everything.

When challenged, he sputters. He contradicts himself. He has no compass or rudder. He says that America should bomb the bleep out of ISIS and then that America should not be the world’s policeman. He would eliminate the Department of Education but thinks that the federal government should have a role in public education. So which is it? “The concept of the country is the concept that we have to have education within the country,” he explained. All clear?

His ignorance of even the broadest outline of the age-old debate over abortion policy in the United States is pretty astonishing. He said that a woman should be punished for having an abortion if it became illegal. Apparently he thought it’s what pro-lifers wanted to hear. A few days later, trying to backpedal, he said that abortion should remain legal until it’s not. And that is how it should stay, he added, signaling that he was either pro-choice or pro-life. Take your pick. All sides were confused. To even consider electing such a vague, labile personality to public office would be to consider signing a blank check.

The president of the United States is not like the owner of a baseball team. He’s like the manager. We’re the owners. We hire him. He works for us. We love our team a lot and understand the game a bit. We enlist the expertise and service of those who know it better.

Of the two front-runners in the Republican primary, one doesn’t know a double switch from a defensive shift, although he’s a real rah-rah kind of guy — maybe he could apply his experience in the steak business and casino industry? You gotta think outside the box, in these troubled times. Etc.

So says a vocal minority of the adult population. They would rather lose with Ricky Roma, a blowhard real-estate con man who entertains them, than win with a competent statesman, a powerful debater who has argued and won cases before the Supreme Court.

Some say they only want to shake things up. Others would go further and blow them up — from Occupy Wall Street to certain pockets of the Trump campaign, Americans in recent years have been flirting with old-time Russian nihilism in modern dress. They don’t want to master chess, they want to grab the board and fling it. It’s a shame, because 2016 is a game that we — Republicans, conservatives, and everyone who only wishes that Hillary Clinton would go back to Chappaqua and leave us alone — can win.

Take heart. Joe Torre wants the job. Or Tony La Russa, if you like. Or Miller Huggins. I mean Cruz, who’s that good, the political equivalent of the strongest minds in the history of the national pastime. He’d beat Clinton in the debates. Sign him.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434161/ted-cruz-donald-trump-2016-republican-primary-competence
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 23, 2016, 06:58:03 AM
This thread has become quite the tree falling in the forest with nobody to hear it....

So I'll spice it up, haha.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: GigantorX on April 23, 2016, 08:19:04 AM
This thread has become quite the tree falling in the forest with nobody to hear it....

So I'll spice it up, haha.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html)


Now there is no way Cruz is going to win Wisconsin.

O'Reilly was all over this.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on April 27, 2016, 12:28:45 PM
Carly Fiorina Endorses Ted Cruz: I Am 'Horrified' By Donald Trump
She made a surprise appearance at his rally in Miami.
 03/09/2016
Amanda Terkel
Senior Political Reporter, The Huffington Post

Carly Fiorina threw her support behind Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) Wednesday, saying it is time to have a "real constitutional conservative in the White House."

Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard CEO who dropped her own presidential bid in early February, made a surprise appearance at Cruz's rally in Miami Wednesday morning. She applauded him for defying the establishment and fighting for Americans' liberties "over and over again."

"Ted Cruz has stood up and fought for our right to bear arms. He has fought for our religious liberty. He has fought for our sovereignty. And he has won over and over and over," she said to cheers.

Fiorina was upfront about her distaste for Donald Trump, the current GOP front-runner, saying conservatives need to band together to stop him.

"There are other people in our party who are actually kind of horrified by Donald Trump. I'm one of them," she said. "But here's the thing: We're not going to beat Donald Trump by having leaders in our party tsk tsk over voters. We're going to have to beat Donald Trump at the ballot box. And the only guy who can beat Donald Trump is Ted Cruz."

She also compared Trump to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, saying they are both part of the system and therefore won't do anything to reform it.

Despite his dislike for the establishment, Cruz is increasingly trying to encourage the establishment wing of his party that he is the best alternative to Trump. Cruz picked up a win in Idaho Tuesday night, while Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) failed to win any states. They are largely banking on winning their delegate-rich home states in upcoming contests.

Cruz still has not received any endorsements from his fellow senators.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/carly-fiorina-ted-cruz_us_56e043d4e4b065e2e3d44565

LOLZERCOPTER.   How nice of her.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 02, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
Gov. Mike Pence: 'I'm Proud to Stand With Ted Cruz'
By Bill Hoffmann   |    Monday, 02 May 2016
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Ted Cruz got testy with an MSNBC reporter after her question to Mike Pence prompted the Indiana governor to admit while he's endorsed Cruz for president, he'll support Donald Trump should the billionaire developer win enough delegates to become the GOP nominee.

"We'll let the process work. I will support the Republican nominee from the president of the United States," Pence said Monday as he stood next to Cruz during an interview in Marion, Indiana, which aired on MSNBC.

"I'm proud to stand with Ted Cruz, and I'm proud to be able to campaign with him today, all across the state of Indiana."

But the query to Pence from MSNBC's Hallie Jackson didn't sit well with Cruz, who is far behind Trump in delegates and desperately needs to win Tuesday's Hoosier State primary in the hopes it will help lead to a contested GOP convention this summer.

"Hallie, let me make an interesting observation on this. So we're here with Gov. Pence, a very popular conservative governor in Indiana," Cruz began.

"Every candidate running for president tried very hard to earn his support. He endorsed me, he's campaigning with me, barnstorming the state."

When Jackson tried to interrupt, Cruz cut her off.
 
 "Let me finish this point, Hallie. A very popular, very well-respected, very conservative governor of Indiana endorsed me, is barnstorming the state, campaigning with me. And yet, the first question you ask him is, so, tell me about Donald Trump," the Texas senator complained.

"How about, governor, why did you endorse Ted Cruz? You could have endorsed any of the candidates … Tell me why you think Ted Cruz is the best choice for president.

"I guarantee you, if we were here and a Democratic governor actually endorsed Hillary Clinton, the first question would be, governor, tell me how Hillary Clinton is fantastic. This is an illustration. Principles matter."

When Jackson asked Cruz if he had a message for delegates "who may be looking to support Donald Trump based on the mood of the country," and noting that pro-Trump protestors has confronted him, Cruz bristled:

"Listen, enough about Donald Trump! I am campaigning to earn the vote of Hoosiers across this state. You're right, there were some protesters there. There were a half a dozen protesters. I went over and communicated with them," Cruz said.

"I said, I respect your right to speak, even if you disagree with me. I'm going to protect your First Amendment rights, because I'm running to be the president of everybody, not just conservatives, not just Republicans."

Cruz also said he does not believe that Trump will get the necessary 1,237 delegates to win the nomination on the first ballot.

So when you are headed at the contested convention, the battle is who could earn the support [and that's] the reason Donald Trump is so desperate to get everyone to call this race over," Cruz said.

"The reason why so many of us echo that sediments is that Donald knows that he cannot earn the majority. If he cannot earn a majority, you cannot be the nominee because it means you cannot unite the party and you would be an incredibly weak general election candidate.

Jackson asked: "If Donald Trump gets close, 1,235 or 1,236, what does that mean?"

"Hallie, with all respect, I think the process story drives people crazy," Cruz fired back. "You know what people in this state care about? They care about their paychecks and it is stuck in the mud because the Obama administration is hammering small businesses."

As of Monday, Trump has 954 delegates, Cruz has 562 and Kasich has 153. There are 57 delegates up for grabs in Indiana.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Mike-Pence-Supports-Ted-Cruz-Indiana-Primary/2016/05/02/id/726814/
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2016, 09:24:27 AM
Former Calif. governor endorses Cruz
By Jessie Hellmann
April 30, 2016

Former California Gov. Pete Wilson has endorsed Republican presidential hopeful Ted Cruz ahead of the state’s crucial primary in June.

Calling Cruz the strong Republican leader the party needs, Wilson announced his support at the California GOP convention Saturday.

“I am here to announce to you my wholehearted endorsement and my wholehearted support of that winning Republican leader who will be the next president of the United States: Ted Cruz,” Wilson said.

The endorsement comes as Cruz continues to trail front-runner Donald Trump in the state’s GOP primary by double digits.

A RealClearPolitics average of polls shows Trump leading Cruz 46 percent to 28 percent.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278279-former-calif-governor-endorses-cruz
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2016, 09:50:03 AM
Absolutely outstanding responses by Cruz.  Class, dignity, restraint, facts.  Diametrically opposed to how Trump handles protesters. 

Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2016, 10:05:23 AM
Absolutely outstanding responses by Cruz.  Class, dignity, restraint, facts.  Diametrically opposed to how Trump handles protesters. 



that protester is not the brightest guy around.  Call Cruz whatever you want, but he absolutely, completely, DESTROYS Trump when it comes to gun rights and decades of fighting for the 2nd amendment. 

That protester is ignorant as fck.  Nobody should defend him on that point.  He's just dumb.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 03, 2016, 07:38:10 PM
This thread has become quite the tree falling in the forest with nobody to hear it....

So I'll spice it up, haha.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article73449297.html)



Good to see Dos back on this wonderful day.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: sync pulse on May 03, 2016, 10:41:30 PM
Now that Ted Cruz is no longer a presidential candidate...I visualize all his fellow Senators passing out bars of Ivory soap and athletic socks to prepare for Ted's return to the Senate Chambers.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Skeletor on May 03, 2016, 11:53:20 PM
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Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 04, 2016, 08:40:38 AM
Alan Dershowitz: Yes it is TRUE that Ted Cruz was one of the smartest I ever taught



Yeah.  Cause picking Carly was a dazzling display of brain wattage at use.

As I said, Cruz is just a schmuck who never had a chance all along. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 04, 2016, 11:34:10 AM
Today Dos says Cruz was not his guy. Look at all the pro-Cruz content he as OP posted in this thread....HA! Unreal.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 04, 2016, 12:05:08 PM
Today Dos says Cruz was not his guy. Look at all the pro-Cruz content he as OP posted in this thread....HA! Unreal.

 ::)  I like Cruz a lot, just as I like Webb, Christie, Rubio, Carson, Walker, Jindal, and Tulsi Gabbard (even though she didn't run).  I don't have "a candidate" until the general election, when I either vote for or against someone.  The only thing I've said for certain is I would not vote for Hillary, Sanders, Trump, or Jeb.  That's still the case. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 04, 2016, 01:06:39 PM
The only thing I've said for certain is I would not vote for Hillary, Sanders, Trump, or Jeb.  That's still the case. 

You'll vote for trump.   won't matter in your liberal-ass state, but you'll go to support the other repubs on the bill, and you'll hold your nose and vote for the RINO.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 04, 2016, 01:07:56 PM
You'll vote for trump.   won't matter in your liberal-ass state, but you'll go to support the other repubs on the bill, and you'll hold your nose and vote for the RINO.

The rabid Chihuahua cannot stop following me around.  That's so cute. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: TuHolmes on May 04, 2016, 01:11:13 PM
You'll vote for trump.   won't matter in your liberal-ass state, but you'll go to support the other repubs on the bill, and you'll hold your nose and vote for the RINO.

I don't think he will.

Honestly.

I believe he may sit it out or finally join the dark side and try to vote for Gary Johnson with me.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 04, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
I don't think he will.

Honestly.

I believe he may sit it out or finally join the dark side and try to vote for Gary Johnson with me.

I already have a pact with one of my coworkers to vote for Gary Johnson.  We are both pretty disgusted. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: TuHolmes on May 04, 2016, 01:29:32 PM
I already have a pact with one of my coworkers to vote for Gary Johnson.  We are both pretty disgusted. 

I really do feel that this is it for the Republicans. Maybe the Libertarians can finally make a true showing of it.

It's exciting and sad at the same time.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 04, 2016, 01:36:28 PM
I really do feel that this is it for the Republicans. Maybe the Libertarians can finally make a true showing of it.

It's exciting and sad at the same time.

They really screwed themselves.  I think they will lose control of one or both houses because of Trump.  

I cannot believe we are this point.  I have no problem with a third party, but there might be a crash and burn before we get there.  
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: TuHolmes on May 04, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
They really screwed themselves.  I think they will lose control of one or both houses because of Trump.  

I cannot believe we are this point.  I have no problem with a third party, but there might be a crash and burn before we get there.  
You are 100% correct.

It is quite sad.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: LurkerNoMore on May 04, 2016, 06:26:06 PM
Cruz kept saying God wanted him to be President.  So either there is no God, or God realllllyyyyy doesn't like Ted and has a wicked sense of humor.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: AbrahamG on May 04, 2016, 06:39:32 PM
Cruz kept saying God wanted him to be President.  So either there is no God, or God realllllyyyyy doesn't like Ted and has a wicked sense of humor.

Either scenario works for me.  I don't think this will happen as I think he's a PUSSY and a fraud like most of them, but if Lying Ted stands his ground and doesn't vote for Donald or accept his olive branch I'll instantly have a shitload of respect for him. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on May 10, 2016, 09:59:59 AM
Seriously?   What a circus. 

Cruz floats restarting campaign if he wins Nebraska primary
By Ben Kamisar
May 10, 2016
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Ted Cruz floated the possibility of restarting his presidential campaign if he wins Nebraska’s GOP primary on Tuesday and avoided saying whether he supports Donald Trump's bid for president.
 
Cruz, who suspended his White House run last week, said he does not expect to win Nebraska's primary but is leaving the door open.
 
"We launched this campaign intending to win. The reason we suspended our campaign was that with the Indiana loss, I felt there was no path to victory," he said Tuesday on conservative host Glenn Beck's radio program.
 
"If that changes, we will certainly respond accordingly."
 
Cruz demurred on supporting Trump, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, because the Republican National Convention and general election are still months away.
 
"This is a choice every voter is going to have to make. I would note, it's not a choice we as voters have to make today," Cruz said when asked about supporting Trump.
 
He also brushed aside the prospects of a convention fight or third-party presidential bid.
 
Cruz and allies told supporters Monday night call that they would not try to block Trump’s nomination but instead focus on influencing the party’s platform and rules, according to Politico.
 
Cruz joins a number of prominent Republicans who have said they are not yet supporting Trump for president.
Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, and former GOP presidential nominees Mitt Romney and John McCain have all decided not to attend the party's convention in July, an apparent rebuke of Trump.

And House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said last week he was not ready to endorse Trump, adding he needed assurances that Trump would champion conservative ideas.

Cruz dropped out of the presidential race last week after losing big in Indiana's primary. John Kasich dropped out a day later, clearing the way for Trump to become the presumptive nominee.

Cruz had hoped a win in Indiana could give him momentum into Tuesday's Nebraska contest, but Trump emerged from the Hoosier State as the only candidate with a viable path forward.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/279354-cruz-floats-restarting-campaign-if-he-wins-nebraska
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: 240 is Back on May 10, 2016, 10:02:40 AM
Seriously?   What a circus. 

Cruz floats restarting campaign if he wins Nebraska primary

Cruz started his shadow campaign immediately.  We talked about it.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=610200.0
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 12, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
But Jesus said so...Cruz has the political savvy of a rock. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2016, 05:40:12 PM
Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick to Cruz: Get Behind Trump or Get Left Behind
By Cathy Burke   |    Monday, 19 Sep 2016

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz could be left "in the rearview mirror of the Republican Party" if he doesn't get behind GOP nominee Donald Trump, warns Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick.

During an interview on "The Laura Ingraham Show" on Monday, Patrick, who supported Cruz during the GOP presidential primaries, said it is past time to get off the sideline.

The remarks start about the 4:40-minute mark.

"You know, I stay loyal to my friends, and Ted's a friend, but obviously I'm disappointed," Patrick said.

"I’m hoping there's still time for him to come forward, or I think he and all the other people you named will be left in the rearview mirror of the Republican Party moving forward. So I'm hoping Ted comes forward. I'm visiting with him on that issue, of course."

Cruz came under fire from Republicans when he refused to endorse Trump during a primetime speech at the Republican convention in Cleveland.
 
But Patrick has been somewhat quiet about the issue,  The Texas Tribune reported. He's now been named Trump's Texas state chairman, the Tribune noted.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/dan-patrick-ted-cruz-get-behind-trump-left-behind/2016/09/19/id/749057/#ixzz4KkgbAjlp
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on September 19, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
I already have a pact with one of my coworkers to vote for Gary Johnson.  We are both pretty disgusted. 

Have you dissolved the pact yet?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2016, 06:10:09 PM
Have you dissolved the pact yet?

Yes, but only because he's going to vote for Trump.  lol.  I am not voting for Trump or Hillary.  Still voting for Johnson.  Have half a mind to write in Colin Powell, especially after his reading his email.   :)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on September 19, 2016, 06:15:13 PM
Yes, but only because he's going to vote for Trump.  lol.  I am not voting for Trump or Hillary.  Still voting for Johnson.  Have half a mind to write in Colin Powell, especially after his reading his email.   :)

Had he already changed his mind before the Aleppo question, or was that it?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2016, 06:27:04 PM
Had he already changed his mind before the Aleppo question, or was that it?

He's heavily involved with the GOP, so he kinda has too.  I was never confident he would follow through.  There ain't no strings on me, so I will not be voting for the narcissist.  Or the corrupt liar.   
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on September 19, 2016, 06:39:52 PM
He's heavily involved with the GOP, so he kinda has too.  I was never confident he would follow through.  There ain't no strings on me, so I will not be voting for the narcissist.  Or the corrupt liar.   

Like the Hillary supporters on full automatic, yeah.  Primemuscle is a good example and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it.  He's been involved with that establishment for years and he's going to vote for Hillary because that's what guys like him do.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2016, 06:43:10 PM
Like the Hillary supporters on full automatic, yeah.  Primemuscle is a good example and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it.  He's been involved with that establishment for years and he's going to vote for Hillary because that's what guys like him do.

I've been hearing a lot of my friends say the same thing.  Some for party loyalty.  Some because they hate Trump.  Some because they are conditioned to do so. 
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on September 19, 2016, 06:51:22 PM
I've been hearing a lot of my friends say the same thing.  Some for party loyalty.  Some because they hate Trump.  Some because they are conditioned to do so. 

You mean none want to be Stronger Together?  WTH is wrong with them?
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on September 19, 2016, 06:53:21 PM
You mean none want to be Stronger Together?  WTH is wrong with them?

lol.  Most of them are holding their nose to vote for Hillary.  The true believers are actual fans.   
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: TuHolmes on September 19, 2016, 07:02:44 PM
You mean none want to be Stronger Together?  WTH is wrong with them?

The only strength is the scent of Clinton's bullshit.

DX full on correct when he said they are holding their noses.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Las Vegas on September 19, 2016, 07:18:18 PM
The only strength is the scent of Clinton's bullshit.

DX full on correct when he said they are holding their noses.

Yes, imo everyone is completely burned out on the political establishment.  Many thought they were getting out of it by electing Obama (simply due to his skin color!) but he really fixed that wagon.  Now, no one's going to be fooled into thinking "just because" Hillary is allegedly female, we're escaping the corrupt establishment.
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Yamcha on October 03, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
 :D :D :D

Satanists to Boehner: Dont associate us with Ted Cruz

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11667 (https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11667)
Title: Re: Cruz 2016
Post by: Dos Equis on January 16, 2017, 06:27:07 PM
He coulda been a contenda . . . .

Politico: Cruz Swatted Down Supreme Court Nomination
By Sandy Fitzgerald 
14 Jan 2017

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump appear to have moved past their contentious campaign, but the Texas senator does not want to become the president-elect's new Supreme Court nominee.

After Cruz spoke with Trump a week after Election Day, he and his chief of staff, David Polyansky, met with Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon and rejected the potential nomination, reports Politico, and has been emerging as one of Trump's key allies in the Senate instead.

"I think the bottom line with Ted is that the monastic life of a Supreme Court justice is simply not something that appeals to him at this stage in his life and that's notwithstanding the fact that he has already in his young legal career established himself as one of the nation's premier Supreme Court advocates," a longtime, unnamed Cruz friend commented. "But being on that side of the lectern is a different thing. He's an advocate, he's passionate about advancing the causes he believes in."

Already, Cruz and Trump are joining forces on key legislation, notes Politico, and Cruz introduced fellow Texan Rex Tillerson to open his confirmation hearings for secretary of State before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Cruz and Trump also share numerous connections among their key staffers. Bannon and Trump's Deputy Campaign Manager, David Bossie are longtime friends of the outspoken Texas senator.

Further, Kellyanne Conway, who will occupy a West Wing office as counsel to the president, early in the election ran a pro-Trump super APAC, and Trump's transition aide, Jason MIller, was Cruz' campaign communications director.

Cruz has already introduced legislation to defund the United Nations, in retaliation for its Security Council's resolution against Israeli settlements. Also, reports Politico, Cruz has discussed two other pieces of legislation with Trump's team: a call for term limits and another allowing donors to give unlimited contributions to political candidates on the federal level.

The senator's new standing with Trump may also help his 2018 re-election campaign.

here has been talk that Trump would encourage a primary battle against Cruz, but now, he's eliminated at least one powerful candidate, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, by nominating him as secretary of Energy.

But still, Cruz may be eying another run at the White House, his friend said, as Cruz will still be a young man in eight years.

"That's another negative to being a Supreme Court justice, it's a lifetime commitment," the friend said. "Ted wasn't ready to lay down his sword and pick up a pen for the rest of his life."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Cruz-Supreme-Court-Trump/2017/01/14/id/768584/