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At the risk of reading too deeply into a race that is a little less than four years away, a poll released Thursday suggested that Hillary Clinton could carry the crimson red state of Texas in the 2016 presidential election.
The latest survey from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling showed Clinton essentially tied with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ). She topped Rubio by a single point in the hypothetical matchup, 46 percent to 45 percent, and by only 2 points over Christie, 45 percent to 43 percent. But Texas voters gave Clinton an even wider edge over their own Republican governor and former presidential candidate, Rick Perry, 50 percent to 42 percent. Fifty percent of Lone Star State voters said they have a favorable opinion of Clinton, compared with 43 percent who view her unfavorably.
A Democrat has not carried Texas in a presidential election since former President Jimmy Carter won the state in 1976.
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Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ppp-hillary-could-carry-texas-in-2016?ref=fpb
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Perry is disliked in Texas...The only reason he was re-elected was that his opponent was Bill White, a former Houston mayor...Houston and anything/anyone associated with it is universally disliked by the rest of the state. It has been that way for over a hundred years.
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Perry is disliked in Texas...The only reason he was re-elected was that his opponent was Bill White, a former Houston mayor...Houston and anything/anyone associated with it is universally disliked by the rest of the state. It has been that way for over a hundred years.
Kay Bailey Hutchison is from the Houston area and has served more years in office than any other politician in Texas history and even she got trounced by Perry in the primary a few years ago. I just can't see Rick Perry losing his Governer's seat anytime soon because that guy usually rolls come election time.
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I've been wondering if she's gonna run. She's put on a lot of weight and looks stressed as hell - and that was tough job she was doing. But, some exercise, rest....might be primed for a run.
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Kay Bailey Hutchison is from the Houston area and has served more years in office than any other politician in Texas history and even she got trounced by Perry in the primary a few years ago. I just can't see Rick Perry losing his Governer's seat anytime soon because that guy usually rolls come election time.
The key words are "Hutchison is from the Houston area" and "she got trounced by Perry"...Her election to the US Senate was an anomaly.
Former Houston Mayor Louie Welch once came to my elementary school to give a talk...We asked him why he didn't try running for Governor, and he explained how former Houston Mayors are unelectable as Texas Governors.
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Perry is disliked in Texas...The only reason he was re-elected was that his opponent was Bill White, a former Houston mayor...Houston and anything/anyone associated with it is universally disliked by the rest of the state. It has been that way for over a hundred years.
Hahaha ive lived in Texas my whole life(Houston primarily) travelled all around this great state and have no clue as to what the fuck youre talking about...
I agree with you on Perry he is a grade A dickweed who has benefitted from things that are largely out of his control. I will say that he has either been smart enough or to incompetent to screw things up like obama has but he is still a shit head.
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Hilary isn't matched up against Perry in this poll.
She's matched up against Rubio Amnesty Approvio and Christie, and whooping them in HUGE repub territory.
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Hilary isn't matched up against Perry in this poll.
She's matched up against Rubio Amnesty Approvio and Christie, and whooping them in HUGE repub territory.
hahah its bull shit bro even a dumb ass like you knows that ::)
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hahah its bull shit bro even a dumb ass like you knows that ::)
i dunno, hilary has been praised by a LOT of repub getbiggers over the last 5 years. After Rush encouraged them to vote for her, all we've heard was "hilary would have been better..."
I dont think it's unreasonable that Hilary is viewed as a world class diplomat and powerhouse with the balls to drop a nuke on anyone... and christie and rubio are seen as competent but nowhere near her level.
PPP is a respected polling organization. They were very accurate in swing states in that 2012 race with obama and the RINO who didnt really want the job.
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i dunno, hilary has been praised by a LOT of repub getbiggers over the last 5 years. After Rush encouraged them to vote for her, all we've heard was "hilary would have been better..."
I dont think it's unreasonable that Hilary is viewed as a world class diplomat and powerhouse with the balls to drop a nuke on anyone... and christie and rubio are seen as competent but nowhere near her level.
PPP is a respected polling organization. They were very accurate in swing states in that 2012 race with obama and the RINO who didnt really want the job.
yes hillary would have been better that doesnt mean shit in regards to here in the primary.
Rubio or Christie would kill her in Texas, come on bro you said it yourself. Romney was the weakest candidate in ages and he won Texas pull your head out of your ass and quit trying to stir up shit moron.
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The key words are "Hutchison is from the Houston area" and "she got trounced by Perry"...Her election to the US Senate was an anomaly.
Former Houston Mayor Louie Welch once came to my elementary school to give a talk...We asked him why he didn't try running for Governor, and he explained how former Houston Mayors are unelectable as Texas Governors.
Winning state wide elections and serving in The United States Senate representing Texas for 20 years is an anamoly?? She is one of the most popular politicians in Texas history and that is exactly the point I was making. Unseating Rick Perry is extremely difficult if even she got blasted. It's like boxing, you are going to have to knock the champ out and that is a helluva task when you look at the data.
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Rubio or Christie would kill her in Texas
The polling says otherwise. After the 2012 debacle, are we really going to poo-poo polls?
The latest survey from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling showed Clinton essentially tied with Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ). She topped Rubio by a single point in the hypothetical matchup, 46 percent to 45 percent, and by only 2 points over Christie, 45 percent to 43 percent. But Texas voters gave -
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The polling says otherwise. After the 2012 debacle, are we really going to poo-poo polls?
what debacle are you talking about that is relevant to this situation?
LMFAO I never got into the polls b/c they are generally shit as it is. If you have some ppl saying one thing and others saying others then half are bound to be wrong.
but whatever you can blow your load to this all you want as tools like you are bound to do.
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The polling says otherwise. After the 2012 debacle, are we really going to poo-poo polls?
Rob, what do you think Rick Perry's chances would have been versus Obama if he hadn't gotten into that infamous Ron Paul arm grabbing incident and compounded with the "5 departments" gaffe?
He had the front runner poll numbers the day he entered plus the presidential look people talk about. Do you think he ever would have had a legit chance if he ran a strong campaign?
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Kay Bailey Hutchison is from the Houston area and has served more years in office than any other politician in Texas history and even she got trounced by Perry in the primary a few years ago. I just can't see Rick Perry losing his Governer's seat anytime soon because that guy usually rolls come election time.
until he has another 'oops' moment.
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until he has another 'oops' moment.
Well he already had 2 significant ones on a National Stage and that didn't seem to change anything in the state of Texas.
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Rob, what do you think Rick Perry's chances would have been versus Obama if he hadn't gotten into that infamous Ron Paul arm grabbing incident and compounded with the "5 departments" gaffe?
He had the front runner poll numbers the day he entered plus the presidential look people talk about. Do you think he ever would have had a legit chance if he ran a strong campaign?
If Perry had won the nomination, he would have had plenty of gaffe moments along the campaign. Remember this?
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what debacle are you talking about that is relevant to this situation?
LMFAO I never got into the polls b/c they are generally shit as it is. If you have some ppl saying one thing and others saying others then half are bound to be wrong.
but whatever you can blow your load to this all you want as tools like you are bound to do.
remember how the "lying, bullshite lib pollsters' like Nate Silver and PPP were so accurate... and "unskewed" and "rassmussen" were so far off?
SOME pollsters have accurate info. Others play upon emotional preferences of its users. In 2016, we'll see Rassmussen do the same thing - give the Repubs an edge, even if the data doesn't provide for that.
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remember how the "lying, bullshite lib pollsters' like Nate Silver and PPP were so accurate... and "unskewed" and "rassmussen" were so far off?
SOME pollsters have accurate info. Others play upon emotional preferences of its users. In 2016, we'll see Rassmussen do the same thing - give the Repubs an edge, even if the data doesn't provide for that.
hahah go ahead and buy into brain child, you know its shit just like I do...troll on moron
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Well he already had 2 significant ones on a National Stage and that didn't seem to change anything in the state of Texas.
yup, 'nough said about the great state of TX. lowest common denominator always wins.
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Hilary isn't matched up against Perry in this poll.
The point is that Texas is not as republican as some people think...The only reason Rick Perry was reelected was because he ran against a former Houston mayor...Former Houston mayors are almost unelectable in statewide office...Despite what my esteemed colleague says.
Hahaha ive lived in Texas my whole life(Houston primarily) travelled all around this great state and have no clue as to what the fuck youre talking about...
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plus, this hispanic population is growing, right? And Romney got what, 27% of hispanic vote in 2012? Yikes.
That would match what this poll says... Dem candidate hilary preferred over the other 2.
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If the GOP continues down this path, it won't be long before Texas and Georgia are solid purple states.
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i saw hilary was up 8 over rubio nationally, and rubio leads all dems.
i think those numbers would level off if they ran against each other. even if not in reality, in the polls. they like to keep things close to keep interest up. OBama was up bigtime in 538.com's polls - and that was accurate. But Rass and Gallup calling it a photo finish was way better for ratings.
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I will call it right now. There is no shot in hell that Hillary Saddam Clinton carries Texas if she drags her bloated carcass into the race in 2016.
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Texas GOP Chair: State Could Be In Play In 2016 If Hillary Runs
It's been more than three decades since Texas went blue in a presidential election, but a top Republican there fears that the GOP may not have the state's 38 electoral votes in the bag in 2016 if Hillary Clinton is at the top of the Democratic ticket.
Steve Munisteri, chairman of the Texas GOP, told Real Clear Politics in a story published Friday that Clinton would strip the state of its "solid Republican" status and insisted that national Republicans are taking her candidacy seriously — even in the crimson red Lone Star State.
"If she's the nominee, I would say that this is a 'lean Republican state' but not a ‘solid Republican state,'" Munisteri said. "I dont know anyone nationally who's scoffing at this. The national party leadership is aware and tells me they're taking it seriously."
A survey released late last month from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling showed Clinton more than holding her own in Texas when matched up against potential 2016 contenders such as Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R). Democrats have not carried Texas in a presidential election since 1976, when former President Jimmy Carter won the state.
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Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/texas-gop-chair-state-could-be-in-play
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i seem to remember alot of you on getbig, not sure if your one,said there is no way in hell obama was going to get reelected.how did that turn out for you LOL :D :D :D :D :D
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i seem to remember alot of you on getbig, not sure if your one,said there is no way in hell obama was going to get reelected.how did that turn out for you LOL :D :D :D :D :D
I dont believe I ever said he wouldnt, I believe I was always one that said it would be close.
LOL
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After seeing the absolutely calamity that having OTWINK has been why the F would anyone want another Democrat in the WH?
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Texas GOP Chair: State Could Be In Play In 2016 If Hillary Runs
It's been more than three decades since Texas went blue in a presidential election, but a top Republican there fears that the GOP may not have the state's 38 electoral votes in the bag in 2016 if Hillary Clinton is at the top of the Democratic ticket.
Steve Munisteri, chairman of the Texas GOP, told Real Clear Politics in a story published Friday that Clinton would strip the state of its "solid Republican" status and insisted that national Republicans are taking her candidacy seriously — even in the crimson red Lone Star State.
"If she's the nominee, I would say that this is a 'lean Republican state' but not a ‘solid Republican state,'" Munisteri said. "I dont know anyone nationally who's scoffing at this. The national party leadership is aware and tells me they're taking it seriously."
A survey released late last month from Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling showed Clinton more than holding her own in Texas when matched up against potential 2016 contenders such as Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R). Democrats have not carried Texas in a presidential election since 1976, when former President Jimmy Carter won the state.
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Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/texas-gop-chair-state-could-be-in-play
It's true. Even repubs are admitting it now. There isn't a GOP heavyweight capable of holding their own against hilary named Rubio or Christie or Jindal.
There is one named Jeb, however ;)
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After seeing the absolutely calamity that having OTWINK has been why the F would anyone want another Democrat in the WH?
Republican party is really like 2 parties. The RINOs and the Tea Partiers are miles apart.
So Obama can be supported by 40% of people... but he will still win... because half the repubs don't bother showing up to vote :(
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Republican party is really like 2 parties. The RINOs and the Tea Partiers are miles apart.
So Obama can be supported by 40% of people... but he will still win... because half the repubs don't bother showing up to vote :(
bless their hearts.
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Republican party is really like 2 parties. The RINOs and the Tea Partiers are miles apart.
So Obama can be supported by 40% of people... but he will still win... because half the repubs don't bother showing up to vote :(
Pretty lazy those republicans.
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hahah go ahead and buy into brain child, you know its shit just like I do...troll on moron
Hilary & Trump are tied in Texas, 40% each.
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In two polls that came out, today, Rasmussen has it tied and Bloomberg has Hillary +9.
Now, when you consider that Mike Bloomberg spoke at the Dem Convention and has been rumored to be the next Secretary of State if Hillary wins, can anyone other than a sheeple take the Bloomberg Poll seriously?
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In two polls that came out, today, Rasmussen has it tied and Bloomberg has Hillary +9.
Now, when you consider that Mike Bloomberg spoke at the Dem Convention and has been rumored to be the next Secretary of State if Hillary wins, can anyone other than a sheeple take the Bloomberg Poll seriously?
The truth of the polls are seen in the methodology.
If it isn't skewed towards Dems, it is skewed towards women. If it isn't towards women, it's towards whatever other demographic that gives them the numbers they are looking for.
Bill Mitchell on Twitter breaks it down really well.
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii (https://twitter.com/mitchellvii)
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You are the biggest bunch of collective pussies/crybabies I've ever seen. No wonder you all love Trump so much. There is a little Trump in each of you.
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You are the biggest bunch of collective pussies/crybabies I've ever seen. No wonder you all love Trump so much. There is a little Trump in each of you.
Newsflash: Nobody cares what you think. Resume your normal schedule of break-dancing/ wiping cornbread crumbs and flies off your face.
Thanks.
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Newsflash: Nobody cares what you think. Resume your normal schedule of break-dancing/ wiping cornbread crumbs and flies off your face.
Thanks.
You cared enough to come out of the basement and respond.