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Title: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Tito24 on October 02, 2012, 08:07:43 AM
Hows that possible? tons of more drugs today etc and still looking like shit?

pro bbing is a total joke, not that we didnt knew that already..


(http://www.betterbodies1982.com/images/press/press15.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=341185.0;attach=374822;image)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/9/8/985880.1143180465559.fox.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/55/images/bertil_%20fox_photo34.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=279964.0;attach=319795;image)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qkxkSOtkaRA/Tig84LxYZeI/AAAAAAAAKNQ/qPkIUGyNMpA/s1600/BertilFox-FLX-UNK-560.jpg)

(http://www.fullmovies.com/actors_images/Denzel%20Washington.jpg)
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Donny on October 02, 2012, 08:12:02 AM
has anyone any news about him??
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Schmoff on October 02, 2012, 08:13:29 AM
hahahhaha

the last pic


 ;D
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: HTexan on October 02, 2012, 08:14:29 AM
Hows that possible? tons of more drugs today etc and still looking like shit?

pro bbing is a total joke, not that we didnt knew that already..


(http://www.betterbodies1982.com/images/press/press15.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=341185.0;attach=374822;image)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/9/8/985880.1143180465559.fox.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/55/images/bertil_%20fox_photo34.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=279964.0;attach=319795;image)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qkxkSOtkaRA/Tig84LxYZeI/AAAAAAAAKNQ/qPkIUGyNMpA/s1600/BertilFox-FLX-UNK-560.jpg)

(http://www.fullmovies.com/actors_images/Denzel%20Washington.jpg)
it is called genetics
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Wiggs on October 02, 2012, 08:15:11 AM
Bertil looks good in a suit. ha :D
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Tito24 on October 02, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
yes that was him on his way to court due the mouthy whores.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Wiggs on October 02, 2012, 08:20:12 AM
yes that was him on his way to court due the mouthy whores.

Def clean there.  Don't wanna look like a brute in court.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: funk51 on October 02, 2012, 08:35:25 AM
Hows that possible? tons of more drugs today etc and still looking like shit?

pro bbing is a total joke, not that we didnt knew that already..


(http://www.betterbodies1982.com/images/press/press15.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=341185.0;attach=374822;image)

(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/9/8/985880.1143180465559.fox.JPG)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/55/images/bertil_%20fox_photo34.jpg)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=279964.0;attach=319795;image)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qkxkSOtkaRA/Tig84LxYZeI/AAAAAAAAKNQ/qPkIUGyNMpA/s1600/BertilFox-FLX-UNK-560.jpg)

(http://www.fullmovies.com/actors_images/Denzel%20Washington.jpg)
agreed....
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Jaime on October 02, 2012, 08:39:43 AM
Narrower than Philsulin.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 02, 2012, 08:41:21 AM
it's bad that big Beef It Betil got long jail term when the 2 mouthy whores got off scott free.....
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: 240 is Back on October 02, 2012, 09:56:27 AM
When does Betil get paroled?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Disgusted on October 02, 2012, 09:58:04 AM
When does Betil get paroled?

When he's dead.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Borracho on October 02, 2012, 10:00:27 AM
Petashun never made it to st.kitts penile facility  ???
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Skylge on October 02, 2012, 10:23:15 AM
Hows that possible? tons of more drugs today etc and still looking like shit?

pro bbing is a total joke, not that we didnt knew that already..



Definition and legs are a lot better today.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2012, 10:28:53 AM
Narrower than Philsulin.
Huge traps made him look narrow. I have a old Flex where he was "answering"  his Ask Bertil column---there is a pic of him in a short sleeve dress shirt, and his traps gave him an "arrow" look.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Raymondo on October 02, 2012, 10:35:32 AM
By the mid-80s Bertil Fox had fucking mutated. He had a very 90s look about him. Too bad he had bad-mouthed all the judges by then so he was constantly out of the top 5. So noone payed attention really.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: mass243 on October 02, 2012, 10:39:00 AM


He's a good man. wish him many big years.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 02, 2012, 01:49:12 PM
We should hire the A-Team to free Bertil....
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Parker on October 02, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
By the mid-80s Bertil Fox had fucking mutated. He had a very 90s look about him. Too bad he had bad-mouthed all the judges by then so he was constantly out of the top 5. So noone payed attention really.
It was the racist judges fault, never mind that he had a shallow back...
Instead of taking out on the weights he took it out on his wife.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Papper on October 02, 2012, 02:53:56 PM
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/9/8/985880.1143180465559.fox.JPG)

this mm smokes both phil and kai 2012. I can check all the boxes. thickness, conditioning, striations, lines, vascularity, proportion, shape, overal mass, thickness, completeness and symmetry. BOOM
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: arce1988 on October 02, 2012, 02:55:14 PM
   Did Victor Richards really slap a top IFBB Official?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: GigantorX on October 02, 2012, 03:44:34 PM
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/9/8/985880.1143180465559.fox.JPG)

this mm smokes both phil and kai 2012. I can check all the boxes. thickness, conditioning, striations, lines, vascularity, proportion, shape, overal mass, thickness, completeness and symmetry. BOOM

The condition, striations and density are top notch. Also very dry and doesn't look like someone filled him up (pardon the expression) with air before the show.

His muscle looks real.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BILL ANVIL on October 02, 2012, 05:30:56 PM
Most importantly, his muscles look like they were made to go together, like a solid build.. not just a bunch of inflated bodyparts thrown together onto a skinny frame like Heath. Bertil would embarrass those guys in the gym as well.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: hench on October 02, 2012, 05:47:51 PM
still holding some good size
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: polychronopolous on October 02, 2012, 05:50:40 PM
has anyone any news about him??

3 hots and a cot, You know what I'm sayin'?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on October 02, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
yeah 100 times better  ::)
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: jaejonna on October 02, 2012, 07:52:58 PM
yeah 100 times better  ::)
ND where does that BDB rank ?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Figo on October 03, 2012, 02:12:50 AM
Back and legs have evolved a lot compared to 70s 80s

Then again, back then most guys had waist -lines and calves
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: falco on October 03, 2012, 02:23:10 AM
When there weren't a lot of pharmaceuticals available only the REALLY genetic freaks arised and succeeded.

Today every sub-average genetic guy can go places if he has the money and health to inject himself with every possibly hormone/growth factor in the market and out of it
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: dj181 on October 03, 2012, 02:24:36 AM
Back and legs have evolved a lot compared to 70s 80s

Then again, back then most guys had waist -lines and calves

that's very true man, and i wonder why it is so?

my guess would be it's because they train legs and back much less often than they did in the 70s/80s (once a week, rather than twice a week) and they also train them using MUCH HEAVIER training loads
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Figo on October 03, 2012, 04:59:41 AM
that's very true man, and i wonder why it is so?

my guess would be it's because they train legs and back much less often than they did in the 70s/80s (once a week, rather than twice a week) and they also train them using MUCH HEAVIER training loads

With the increased size, especially legs comes the waist expansion, not everybody has bob paris genes for a tight waist and a thigh measurement almost the same size.

With the back, robby already had a great back, so did quinn and jorma raty, haney, bannout then christian, etc, but I think its also a case of someone achieves it, it becomes the standard and others try duplicate it within their means
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: The_Punisher on October 03, 2012, 05:04:17 AM
has anyone any news about him??

he's still depleting in some underground jail somewhere in a small island in the caribean..... :).....I hope he dies in jail.....this bastard killed two people for nothing. a mother and her daughter
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Figo on October 03, 2012, 05:10:50 AM
he's still depleting in some underground jail somewhere in a small island in the caribean..... :).....I hope he dies in jail.....this bastard killed two people for nothing. a mother and her daughter

Did she cheat on him ?

Does anyone know of the events leading up to it ?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Tito24 on October 03, 2012, 05:19:09 AM
he's still depleting in some underground jail somewhere in a small island in the caribean..... :).....I hope he dies in jail.....this bastard killed two people for nothing. a mother and her daughter

i dont know "for nothing", some women can really push the envelope.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: The_Punisher on October 03, 2012, 05:24:30 AM
Did she cheat on him ?

Does anyone know of the events leading up to it ?


he used to go out with the daughter for a while and then she told him that she wants to break up the relationship and that she no longer wants to be his fiancee......they said he was really pissed and angry to the point that he confronted both the mother and her daughter with a gun and kill them both.........I have this sports illustrated article that talks about it in 1998.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/index.htm
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: The_Punisher on October 03, 2012, 05:27:26 AM
i dont know "for nothing", some women can really push the envelope.


well, I understand that. he invested a lot in her and they were engaged and when she decided to break it up, he couldn't swallow that pill and take her life and her mother......this dude went overboard.....I'm not sure if it's worth it....now he lost everything
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 03, 2012, 05:29:36 AM
Imagine Bertil on the drugs of today? The past champs like Fox had a density to them from hard training. The champs of today look soft and bloated filled muscles. They don't have the hardness of these former champs.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on October 03, 2012, 05:33:02 AM
Back and legs drugs have evolved a lot compared to 70s 80s

Then again, back then most guys had waist -lines and calves

fixed
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Parker on October 03, 2012, 05:33:49 AM
Imagine Bertil on the drugs of today? The past champs like Fox had a density to them from hard training. The champs of today look soft and bloated filled muscles. They don't have the hardness of these former champs.

That man's "training" only worked for the front of body..
Some of the most sloppy, odd shaped training I've ever seen on video.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Tito24 on October 03, 2012, 05:34:34 AM
hulks sloppy seconds
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: dj181 on October 03, 2012, 05:39:32 AM
That man's "training" only worked for the front of body..
Some of the most sloppy, odd shaped training I've ever seen on video.

his training style certainly wasn't with text book form, but he trained HARD, and this is exactly what gave him his outstanding results
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Donny on October 03, 2012, 07:22:58 AM
his training style certainly wasn't with text book form, but he trained HARD, and this is exactly what gave him his outstanding results
Not called "Brutal Fox" for nothing.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 03, 2012, 12:49:45 PM
Maybe Heath and Fox should switch places. All in favour say YEA..... :)
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BILL ANVIL on October 05, 2012, 12:32:44 AM
Phillip is not impressive in person. Didnt exactly do a double take or anything when i saw him at a booth
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: arce1988 on January 06, 2013, 03:30:47 PM
(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/97671151-american-actor-and-bodybuilder-steve-reeves-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=9QMziWNtBI6whP66vhs4ocLFI9J0cVGFfvmR2isfTwOcQQQ4YyVQ5T9AunuQK1ogv6Gc0F07AWIlCm2Nx6avNw%3D%3D)


 Gary making Fox look small
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: WOOO on January 06, 2013, 03:37:05 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Fox)

On 22 May 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancée and her mother on the Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on 27 September 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 06, 2013, 06:49:57 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Fox)

On 22 May 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancée and her mother on the Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on 27 September 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.

 ???
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: oldman on January 06, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
In his day, Bertil was considered over developed.  His only downfall was that he could not pose well...he did well in the NABBA though
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: WOOO on January 06, 2013, 07:01:18 PM
???

 ???
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 06, 2013, 07:08:16 PM
???

well whats your point? did you think people weren't aware of that or something?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 06, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertil_Fox)

On 22 May 1998, bodybuilder Bertil Fox was convicted of murdering his former fiancée and her mother on the Caribbean isle of St. Kitts. He was originally sentenced to death by hanging, though on 27 September 2002 his sentence was changed to life in prison.
A waist of life, he could of made a lot of money with his physique.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: tommywishbone on January 06, 2013, 07:11:04 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: WOOO on January 06, 2013, 07:13:37 PM
well whats your point? did you think people weren't aware of that or something?

my point was to link to the story

point accomplished
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Alex23 on January 06, 2013, 07:28:09 PM
my point was to link to the story

point accomplished

lots of whineys in this place.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: arce1988 on January 06, 2013, 07:28:36 PM
 Three hots and a cot   :D
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 06, 2013, 07:30:49 PM
lots of whineys in this place.

the real Alex is superior to you in almost every way.

crooked impostor
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: basil on January 06, 2013, 07:46:34 PM
beef it beetle baby, bad as can.

Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: kawaks on January 06, 2013, 11:57:30 PM
When he's dead.

"Life" by definition is typically 20 years behind bars, did his sentence read "life without the chance of parole"????

Whats the point if he can't redeem himself?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on January 07, 2013, 12:09:35 AM
"Life" by definition is typically 20 years behind bars, did his sentence read "life without the chance of parole"????

Whats the point if he can't redeem himself?



His original sentence was death by hanging....then it was changed to life in prison.  That usually means that his black ass will only leave jail in a bodybag.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: basil on January 07, 2013, 12:28:57 AM
"Life" by definition is typically 20 years behind bars, did his sentence read "life without the chance of parole"????

Whats the point if he can't redeem himself?


The elements of the sentence "life" depends on the country/jurisdiction.  You may be surprised by the variances in a 'life sentence" depending on location.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: kawaks on January 07, 2013, 02:20:11 AM
The elements of the sentence "life" depends on the country/jurisdiction.  You may be surprised by the variances in a 'life sentence" depending on location.

Maybe he's "living the life" in that st kitts shithole jail, 14 to a dark shithole of a cell?!
You know like 'what the heck', Richard Speck (remember him?!)

He and his black 'wife' went gangbusters with drugs, female estrogen sex hormones and taped themselves to live to tell the tale!
Incredible!

Maybe Fox keeps on living the dream so he can stay in contact with his daughter etc assuming they keep in contact?
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: kawaks on January 07, 2013, 02:22:42 AM
Hows that possible? tons of more drugs today etc and still looking like shit?

pro bbing is a total joke, not that we didnt knew that already..


Yeah just a pity he couldn't pose for shit onstage and had the stage presence of a skinless rat.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: AVBG on January 07, 2013, 02:38:52 AM
 Rehtaf ruo has been missed  :'(
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Figo on January 07, 2013, 03:58:29 AM
i think ppl have missed something here.

bertil fox at his all time best wouldnt stand a chance vs phil in contest shape.


not in a single pose.



Fox had great chest and arms

Besides conditioning, he lacked back, legs, was also not very wide, which his huge traps and pecs made look even narrower

Back then, guys lacked hams, backs were not as good (with exceptions), delts were much smaller

But... Better question, IMO, would be: how would Heath do in Fox's day ? Sans slin, gh, and other exotic stuff. I think Heath wouldn't turn pro
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: WOOO on January 07, 2013, 04:09:14 AM
i think ppl have missed something here.

bertil fox at his all time best wouldnt stand a chance vs phil in contest shape.


not in a single pose.




depends greatly on the criteria in use
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: kreator on January 07, 2013, 06:21:10 AM
mr. fox gives the impression of being really strong when phil looks like he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paperbag that Tom Prince used in the stall of gold's gym
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 06:32:31 AM
mr. fox gives the impression of being really strong when phil looks like he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paperbag that Tom Prince used in the stall of gold's gym
he was known to lift heavy weights but to be honest his form was a bit loose from what i have seen ..however still a Beast .
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 07, 2013, 06:54:12 AM

he used to go out with the daughter for a while and then she told him that she wants to break up the relationship and that she no longer wants to be his fiancee......they said he was really pissed and angry to the point that he confronted both the mother and her daughter with a gun and kill them both.........I have this sports illustrated article that talks about it in 1998.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1012887/index.htm


Wow, good article.  Did you read the second page where it talks about Sally McNeil and her making money by schmoe wrestling sessions?  That was funny.
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Borracho on January 07, 2013, 07:08:06 AM
Rehtaf ruo has been missed  :'(

 :-[
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: Figo on January 07, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
Back then legs were much more streamlined, but hams were almost optional

The only pose Fox would be able to compare would be side chest/tri, maybe most muscular. If he wore pants
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 07, 2013, 09:14:11 AM
potentially...  on a level playing field....
fox wins by a country mile....
IMO
Title: Re: Beef Betil Fox, hundred times better than a philsulin head
Post by: BILL ANVIL on January 07, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
he was known to lift heavy weights but to be honest his form was a bit loose from what i have seen ..however still a Beast .

90lb seated dumbbell curls and 500lb bench press. cant cheat on those..