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According to the first lady, when it comes to Iraq, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."
During an interview on NBC's Today show Wednesday concerning Malaria Awareness Day, Laura Bush talked to Ann Curry about "other challenges her husband is facing."
"You know the American people are suffering watching --," Curry said to the first lady.
"Oh, I know that very much," Laura Bush responded. "And believe me, no one suffers more than their president and I do when we watch this, and certainly the commander in chief, who has asked our military to go into harm's way."
Curry then asked, "What do you think the American public need to know about your husband?"
"Well, I hope they do know the burden, the worry that's on his shoulders every single day for our troops," Bush said. "And I think they do. I mean, I think if they don't, they're not seeing what the real responsibilities of our president are."
The first lady admitted that "it's absolutely hard" to watch her husband "in this."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Laura_Bush_No_one_suffers_more_0425.html
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And THAT'S what kills her the most--not the troops perishing.
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i dunno... how bout the 650k iraqis killed
statements like these = why everyone whose not amreekan hates amreekans
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I know ur so right ::)..thats why everybody wants to come here. The fucking Europeans can't make a decision on anything to save their lives. They are quickly allowing their countries to become islamist states. Besides that they have a blood drenched history of invasions, oppression and warfare that makes us look like unruly children in comparision. I assuming that your not from American. U idiots are all jealous that u have lost economic power and importance. Yeah iraq was a mistake...if that had been the Ieffel tower on 911..u wusses would have hugged it out. Gimme a break ::)
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oh my fucking god
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Tre..sorry man but I'm done having people bad mouth this country, especially with marginally racist tirades that have no basis in historical fact....I'm referencing this guys other posts.
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Tre..sorry man but I'm done having people bad mouth this country, especially with marginally racist tirades that have no basis in historical fact....I'm referencing this guys other posts.
I might be wrong but I think he was OMFGing Laura's comments.
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According to the first lady, when it comes to Iraq, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."
During an interview on NBC's Today show Wednesday concerning Malaria Awareness Day, Laura Bush talked to Ann Curry about "other challenges her husband is facing."
"You know the American people are suffering watching --," Curry said to the first lady.
"Oh, I know that very much," Laura Bush responded. "And believe me, no one suffers more than their president and I do when we watch this, and certainly the commander in chief, who has asked our military to go into harm's way."
Curry then asked, "What do you think the American public need to know about your husband?"
"Well, I hope they do know the burden, the worry that's on his shoulders every single day for our troops," Bush said. "And I think they do. I mean, I think if they don't, they're not seeing what the real responsibilities of our president are."
The first lady admitted that "it's absolutely hard" to watch her husband "in this."
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Laura_Bush_No_one_suffers_more_0425.html
She should send her daughter over there and get her killed and then talk about her burden.
Otherwise the Bitch needs to shut the fuck up.
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i dunno... how bout the 650k iraqis killed
statements like these = why everyone whose not amreekan hates amreekans
where did that number come from?
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I might be wrong but I think he was OMFGing Laura's comments.
he was talking about my comments on the 911 reason thread ... not surprisingly he hasnt cracked open a history text book
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Tre..sorry man but I'm done having people bad mouth this country, especially with marginally racist tirades that have no basis in historical fact....I'm referencing this guys other posts.
Not you, HH6 - Berserker was correct in assuming that I was just shocked by what came out of Laura B's mouth.
That would be akin to me saying that "I can feel every dead soldier's pain" when nothing could be further from the truth, to say nothing of the sheer ARROGANCE it requires to make such a statement.
>:(
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Funny..I was a history major in college....double major actually history and English..my concentration was in French and British colonial warfare from the mid 1800's on. I'm well aware of history. Besides that I will be at the US Army war college for the next 3 years so anything u would like to talkabout I'm sure I can dig up plenty of crap to debate u with.
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Not you, HH6 - Berserker was correct in assuming that I was just shocked by what came out of Laura B's mouth.
That would be akin to me saying that "I can feel every dead soldier's pain" when nothing could be further from the truth, to say nothing of the sheer ARROGANCE it requires to make such a statement.
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Yeah..sorry man......yeah a bit crazy to say the least. I kinda get what she means but it could have been worded alot better.
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What really pisses me off is her 2004 speech at the republican convention where she talks about Bush agonizing with making the decision to go to war, "I remember some very quiet nights at the dinner table. George was weighing grim scenarios and ominous intelligence about potentially even more devastating attacks. I listened many nights as George talked with foreign leaders on the phone, or in our living room, or at our ranch in Crawford. I remember an intense weekend at Camp David. George and Prime Minister Tony Blair were discussing the threat from Saddam Hussein. And I remember sitting in the window of the White House, watching as my husband walked on the lawn below. I knew he was wrestling with these agonizing decisions that would have such profound consequence for so many lives and for the future of our world." Of course, this, all pure bullshit as there never was an agonizing decision making process, Bush was going to have war with Iraq come hell or high water. The Downing Street Memos, fake intelligence agency at the pentagon and other efforts all reveal that the decision to go to war was already made long before the time we were watching things unfold. ::) I could not get up in front of the nation with such bullshit lies. how do these people sleep?
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where did that number come from?
United Nations
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Bush has been plotting invading Iraq for a long time, before 9/11 and according to some credible sources before he was elected.
These kind of quotes don't particularly bother me, people that live such insular lives as First Ladies are often far out of touch with reality. She might even believe that ridiculous quote although I doubt it.
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Tre..sorry man but I'm done having people bad mouth this country,
i love this country...
bush is scum
does that clarify it..
if you love this country..then you MUST despise bush and his tyrant ways..
hows them for reverse apples eh? ;)
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United Nations
Better check it again then, last UN report I heard was under 100,000. Be careful to check what they are counting as deaths.
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Better check it again then, last UN report I heard was under 100,000. Be careful to check what they are counting as deaths.
That 600,000+ number has been discredited.
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That 600,000+ number has been discredited.
by who?
wait..ya bomb the fuck out of a country..remember the initial attack..
and claim only a few died..
R YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
exactly how stupid r you?
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by who?
wait..ya bomb the fuck out of a country..remember the initial attack..
and claim only a few died..
R YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
exactly how stupid r you?
::) Look it up yourself.
And you really shouldn't call anyone stupid until you learn how to write better than a third grader.
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::) Look it up yourself.
And you really shouldn't call anyone stupid until you learn how to write better than a third grader.
honey bunny..my high skool diploma has a uni of cambridge stamp on it...
i only make an effort for those who r worthy..
white trash dont deserve me making an effort..
:-\
sorry mate....i grew up almost as a prince..you r beneath me ..hense..i dont hafta sound brilliant :)
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That 600,000+ number has been discredited.
Whether or not it's below that marker it's still a shitload of people.
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Whether or not it's below that marker it's still a shitload of people.
3 people died in the precision US attack..just 3..
and all 3 were grown males that had connections to al-queda..
no women and children died..
remember christian bombs dont hurt women and children..jesus ..err bush..blessed em..
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honey bunny..my high skool diploma has a uni of cambridge stamp on it...
i only make an effort for those who r worthy..
white trash dont deserve me making an effort..
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sorry mate....i grew up almost as a prince..you r beneath me ..hense..i dont hafta sound brilliant :)
Sure you did. ::) Here's a hint: people who are smart and wealthy never have to try and convince people they are smart and wealthy.
And don't worry about not sounding brilliant. You got the covered quite well.
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Whether or not it's below that marker it's still a shitload of people.
It's nowhere near that marker, so that number is completely irrelevant. And I would imagine the overwhelming majority of civilians who have been and are being killed are victims of suicide bombers.
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Sure you did. ::) Here's a hint: people who are smart and wealthy never have to try and convince people they are smart and wealthy.
really..?? even einstein had to..and so did stephen hawkings..i've read their life stories..
how dumb r you?
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It's nowhere near that marker, so that number is completely irrelevant.
ooo..yeah..our big bombs didn't kill no one..remember video of baghdad lit up at nite..no one died except the bad people ::)
but them wittle home made bombs made by suicide bombers killed many..
lol..
what a POS biased person you r....once again..DONT BREED..please..i'll send you a $1000 check if ya promise not to breed and sign a paper..
i really hope u r not christian....it'd be a disgrace..
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really..?? even einstein had to..and so did stephen hawkings..i've read their life stories..
how dumb r you?
Can't believe you brought up those two people in replying to BB, he reputes every evidence of scientifical information every created, no matter how iron clad the information is, and somehow he thinks he can prove it....but never comes through on his google quests.
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really..?? even einstein had to..and so did stephen hawkings..i've read their life stories..
how dumb r you?
I doubt you have read a book in your entire life.
P.S. Comic books don't count.
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ooo..yeah..our big bombs didn't kill no one..remember video of baghdad lit up at nite..no one died except the bad people ::)
People forgot we were gunning for a 72 hour war "this will be over in a matter of hours" and we bombed the hell out of everything, leaving Saddams mass grave yards looking like scenic walking routes.
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Can't believe you brought up those two people in replying to BB, he reputes every evidence of scientifical information every created, no matter how iron clad the information is, and somehow he thinks he can prove it....but never comes through on his google quests.
my friend you r about as white as they come...BUT...i'm going an a repb rampage mate..i really hope ya dont offence..
i'm just poking..where the pokings good! ;D
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ooo..yeah..our big bombs didn't kill no one..remember video of baghdad lit up at nite..no one died except the bad people ::)
but them wittle home made bombs made by suicide bombers killed many..
lol..
what a POS biased person you r....once again..DONT BREED..please..i'll send you a $1000 check if ya promise not to breed and sign a paper..
i really hope u r not christian....it'd be a disgrace..
I'd respond, but I can't understand most of what you attempted to say . . . .
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I doubt you have read a book in your entire life.
P.S. Comic books don't count.
who r your fav authors..?
mine
Oscar Wilde
Dickenson
bronte sisters
dickens
shakies sonnets
stephen king
n oh..i'm a published poet..pm me for my real name and where and who published me..however if ya reveal it..i'll have your credit cards #s all over the net :) <i actually want you to test me on that last bit>
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my friend you r about as white as they come
i'm working on a tan right now.
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I'd respond, but I can't understand most of what you attempted to say . . . .
its ok..i know you r retarded..
dont worry..
grownups r a talkin.. :)
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People forgot we were gunning for a 72 hour war "this will be over in a matter of hours" and we bombed the hell out of everything, leaving Saddams mass grave yards looking like scenic walking routes.
no one died though....
it ws precision bombing ::)
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no one died though....
it ws precision bombing ::)
No point in trying to hammer in these facts, mate.. It'll get you no where.
I feel better knowing that deep down people know what the fuck is going on in the world, even though some choose to be completely oblivious to it.
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I feel better knowing that deep down people know what the fuck is going on in the world, even though some choose to be completely oblivious to it.
no..i have recently realized that some of these girls actually BELIEVE the bullshit..
castrate em NOW!
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who r your fav authors..?
mine
Oscar Wilde
Dickenson
bronte sisters
dickens
shakies sonnets
stephen king
n oh..i'm a published poet..pm me for my real name and where and who published me..however if ya reveal it..i'll have your credit cards #s all over the net :) <i actually want you to test me on that last bit>
Riiiight. ::) I have read enough of your drivel on this board to conclude you do not read books. Published poet? LOL . . . Anyone can "publish" anything. Write something. Go to Kinkos. Pay for a copyright. You're published. Or, as I suspect you may have done, pay money to be included in some publication. And again, if this were actually true, you wouldn't have to try and convince people. It would be obvious. You can't even put two complete sentences together.
Protein Fart's favorite comic books:
Captain America
Fantastic Four
Incredible Hulk
Superman
Batman
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People forgot we were gunning for a 72 hour war "this will be over in a matter of hours" and we bombed the hell out of everything, leaving Saddams mass grave yards looking like scenic walking routes.
Funny I didn't see you right next to me when i rolled out of Kuwait and up into Bagdad. Oh wait you were'nt fucking there so u have no idea do u, except from some BS leftist website fill of other people who were'nt there either. I'm not there now and I'm sure plenty of iraqi's have died..don't really care either. But while we rolled up..it wasn't that bad. And the folks did want us there and were chearing and yelling..it lasted about a week ::)......
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aww trailer trash couldn't attack my arguments so he attacketh me!
its ok...you learned it from your prezident..
:)
i notice ya haven't PMed me yet asking who published me..owell..
n oh..i do like archie comix..
Why the heck would I PM you? I've already concluded you are a dofus. I don't need any further proof. Good read your comic books. And take a remedial reading/writing class.
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Funny I didn't see you right next to me when i rolled out of Kuwait and up into Bagdad. Oh wait you were'nt fucking there so u have no idea do u, except from some BS leftist website fill of other people who were'nt there either. I'm not there now and I'm sure plenty of iraqi's have died..don't really care either. But while we rolled up..it wasn't that bad. And the folks did want us there and were chearing and yelling..it lasted about a week ::)......
You basically admitted he was right. Good man.
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I don't know whats up with him...If I were a poet and educated at Cambridge, I think I would be alot mnore coherent. Maybe its the drugs.....
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I don't know whats up with him...If I were a poet and educated at Cambridge, I think I would be alot mnore coherent. Maybe its the drugs.....
nah..its just that i'm not a christian ijit! :)
dont yall handle snakes and let em bite ya for the lord? :)
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I'm catholic....we used to burn witches and impale rags..... :P
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I don't know whats up with him...If I were a poet and educated at Cambridge, I think I would be alot mnore coherent. Maybe its the drugs.....
Precisely. I have met some educated idiots, so it's possible to be educated and still be a dummy, but they're usually coherent. This kid is barely literate.
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I'm catholic....we used to burn witches and impale rags..... :P
ya mean fuck little boys.. :-\ aint that like a right of passage amongst yall?
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While we could get into a debate about buggering little boys..i think the muslims/arabs have the market cornered on that......12 years in Catholic school..not so much as a tickle :P
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ya mean fuck little boys.. :-\ aint that like a right of passage amongst yall?
at least you can wave at an american with your left hand
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That 600,000+ number has been discredited.
That I know of, it has not been credibly discredited either. The only think I found was the president and generals saying it wasn't true.
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The threads on this forum have gone out of control.
Everyone calm down.
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FINE GO SOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXX ;D.
I bet that didn't help. :P
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Funny I didn't see you right next to me when i rolled out of Kuwait and up into Bagdad. Oh wait you were'nt fucking there so u have no idea do u, except from some BS leftist website fill of other people who were'nt there either. I'm not there now and I'm sure plenty of iraqi's have died..don't really care either. But while we rolled up..it wasn't that bad. And the folks did want us there and were chearing and yelling..it lasted about a week ::)......
Hard to argue with someone who was there....The thing is...many soldiers such as yourself,take any criticism of the WAR as criticism toward you personally.I understand that I guess,but that isn't the case.At least not when the bitching about the war comes from me. I don't agree with the war but I do have a TREMENDOUS amount of respect for those who risk their life fighting for what they feel is right.I am against this war but I still think you and your fellow soldiers are heros.Many will say bullshit to this and I don't really care.That is honestly how I feel.
P.S. Bush Sucks
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Sure you did. ::) Here's a hint: people who are smart and wealthy never have to try and convince people they are smart and wealthy.
Beach Bum,
you've said many times that you're a college professor making 200k a year.
(you also said you were a high school dropout, and you didn't know what the M in MBA stood for)
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Hard to argue with someone who was there....The thing is...many soldiers such as yourself,take any criticism of the WAR as criticism toward you personally.I understand that I guess,but that isn't the case.At least not when the bitching about the war comes from me. I don't agree with the war but I do have a TREMENDOUS amount of respect for those who risk their life fighting for what they feel is right.I am against this war but I still think you and your fellow soldiers are heros.Many will say bullshit to this and I don't really care.That is honestly how I feel.
It's in everyone's nature to take pride in what they do and naturally feel insulted when someone questions them. I used to be all pissy about bush, iraq and what not, but realized that I don't have so bad and calmed down. I'm critical now as I ever was, but never on a personal level.
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You said nothing that pissed me off..no issues at all. Yeah we do to an extent because I feel that we in the military are fighting this war and nobody cares...the reasons are legion and we have discussed it here at length. The fact is while we are have screwed up in Iraq on a massive scale..and plenty of innocent Iraqi's have been killed..most have died at the hand sof insurgent attacks..collateral damage during military operations...but subsequent to the invasion. We tried to be real careful, atleast from the air ;D
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We had an afghani Col who got fired because he a 12 year old boy chained to his desk.....we saw kids who would have nail polish on their hands..index fingers etc. It ment they were somebody's bitch. While I was in Pakistan we heard about an Army barracks that if u drove by on Thursdays u could here the screams of the young soldiers as the older ones raped them..the list is endless.
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We had an afghani Col who got fired because he a 12 year old boy chained to his desk.....we saw kids who would have nail polish on their hands..index fingers etc. It ment they were somebody's bitch. While I was in Pakistan we heard about an Army barracks that if u drove by on Thursdays u could here the screams of the young soldiers as the older ones raped them..the list is endless.
:-\
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Beach Bum,
you've said many times that you're a college professor making 200k a year.
(you also said you were a high school dropout, and you didn't know what the M in MBA stood for)
Liar liar: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107400/
Shouldn't you be off "joking" about murdering your wife and child . . . or least busting suds? Get to work!
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While I was in Pakistan
lie much?
you have NEVER been to pakistan.
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Liar liar: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107400/
Shouldn't you be off "joking" about murdering your wife and child . . . or least busting suds? Get to work!
I believe " liar, liar,pants on fire" was the quote you were looking for. :)
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:bBWilRvJ7EU6DM:http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/pantsonfire.gif)
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050801/cortright
From 1 may 2003-mid 2004, the war had accounted for 24,000 deaths.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/consequences/2006/0309deathtoll.htm
In 2005 there were 13,000 deaths
http://pcrproject.com/blog/2007/01/17/un-iraq-death-toll/
In 2006, the death toll was 34,000 plus
That comes to 71,000. Was there 380,000 since January?
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We had an afghani Col who got fired because he a 12 year old boy chained to his desk.....we saw kids who would have nail polish on their hands..index fingers etc. It ment they were somebody's bitch. While I was in Pakistan we heard about an Army barracks that if u drove by on Thursdays u could here the screams of the young soldiers as the older ones raped them..the list is endless.
Chained to his desk? WTF
It's hard to read such accounts and not think the whole Middle East is populated by something less than human beings.
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U idiots are all jealous that u have lost economic power and importance.
Actually, you're wrong. The European Union is quickly gaining economic power, and the dollar is dropping against the Euro.
The economical ties within Europe has quickly made a war between Germany and France an impossibility, the original goal.
However, USA is still number one in the world, and will always be.
-Hedge
The countries that joins makes quick economical leaps, and
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050801/cortright
From 1 may 2003-mid 2004, the war had accounted for 24,000 deaths.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/consequences/2006/0309deathtoll.htm
In 2005 there were 13,000 deaths
http://pcrproject.com/blog/2007/01/17/un-iraq-death-toll/
In 2006, the death toll was 34,000 plus
That comes to 71,000. Was there 380,000 since January?
Clearly that 600,000 number is overblown by a factor of at least 6 but I'm curious how exactly do they count the number of dead. I have doubts about how accurately the dead can be counted in a place like Iraq. Of course this is pure speculation but any official number I would add roughly 15% to. My guess would be that 71,000 in reality is somewhere around 80,000. Again, pure speculation on my part.
And I think another good point was brought up, many of those dead were killed by suicide bombers and not by our own troops or bombs. Of course the argument can be made that our occupation has allowed the rampant spread of suicide bombers but that's not quite the same as our bombs or soldiers doing the actual killing.
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Clearly that 600,000 number is overblown by a factor of at least 6 but I'm curious how exactly do they count the number of dead. I have doubts about how accurately the dead can be counted in a place like Iraq. Of course this is pure speculation but any official number I would add roughly 15% to. My guess would be that 71,000 in reality is somewhere around 80,000. Again, pure speculation on my part.
And I think another good point was brought up, many of those dead were killed by suicide bombers and not by our own troops or bombs. Of course the argument can be made that our occupation has allowed the rampant spread of suicide bombers but that's not quite the same as our bombs or soldiers doing the actual killing.
Oh for sure I wold probably give it at least 100,000. One of the websites lists an Iraq body count project that uses the iraq Morgues as a count. This is one resaon that the Iraqi government is critical of the UN as exaggerating the count. How many of those people in the morgue died of natural causes? Still I think people easily exaggerate by at least 6 times.
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lie much?
you have NEVER been to pakistan.
Why cause its your country....nope ur wrong dumbass. We supported the humanitarian effort during the earthquake in 2005. We used Chinook helicopters from a unit based out of Bagram Airfield. We basically shut down air operations to help your 3rd world shithole country because your own people could not do it for themselves. This is all varifiable information....well the folks up in the remote villages were very gratiful for the help they received. Many of the jingle trucks (oooh how would i know what a jingle truck was) have chinooks painted on the sides now because of the help we provided. That unit was set to rotate out of Afghanistan while I was there. the Paki government invited them to do a tour of the country and view waht had been rebuilt and give the folks up there an opportunity to thank them again. 10 days..I went along...I think we had a NYT reported do a story as well. Anyway your wrong
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Comments like those made by Laura show how much out of touch these people are with reality. I mean, remember when Bush said something like our democracy has been a beacon of freedom since its inception (never mind slavery, the slaughter of most Native Americans, etc.)?
Man, they're really out of touch!!!
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I believe " liar, liar,pants on fire" was the quote you were looking for. :)
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:bBWilRvJ7EU6DM:http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/pantsonfire.gif)
Yes! :D
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lol ! this is real funny shit ! ::)
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Actually, you're wrong. The European Union is quickly gaining economic power, and the dollar is dropping against the Euro.
The economical ties within Europe has quickly made a war between Germany and France an impossibility, the original goal.
However, USA is still number one in the world, and will always be.
-Hedge
The countries that joins makes quick economical leaps, and
Yes but we're going to counter with the North American Union and the Amero :D >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Oh for sure I wold probably give it at least 100,000. One of the websites lists an Iraq body count project that uses the iraq Morgues as a count. This is one resaon that the Iraqi government is critical of the UN as exaggerating the count. How many of those people in the morgue died of natural causes? Still I think people easily exaggerate by at least 6 times.
You just look at numbers and guesstimate a lower number than the UN. "Counting all civilians, military, contractors, insurgents, and non-Iraqi civilians, at least 70,000; to as many as 655,000+ total excess deaths due to the war" This means that because of war people die from natural illnesses that are a RESULT OF THE WAR you have a infection from a cut, and die of staph....since all doctors have fled to syria and jordan. Iraq's critical of the UN huh? Care to site a reference?
Iraq's Health Ministery is not going to disagree with the UN when they are conducting extrapolating studies. In fact the UN used numbers provided by the Health Ministries reports given to them from the morgues. Iraq morgues wanted the ration of deaths per day increased since people are going missing and documented deaths have gone missing, and some deaths are unidentified. The IBC standards were pulling up war related civilian deaths, attributed to direct fire, the UN was studying ALL deaths linked to direct fire and increased lawlessness,shit system, and NO health care.
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According to the first lady, when it comes to Iraq, "No one suffers more than their president and I do."
The first lady admitted that "it's absolutely hard" to watch her husband "in this."
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
another great contribution
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another great contribution
I realize the importance of these boards in your life.
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Its all water under the bridge. Invading Iraq is the biggest blunder that I can ever think a president has made.
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Don't u have a game to watch ;D
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oh my fucking god
{LOL} Sounds like the first lady is following the eloquent lead of her mother-in-law.
We all know how much better off those Katrina survivors were. Heck, Katrina worked out real swell for them.
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{LOL} Sounds like the first lady is following the eloquent lead of her mother-in-law.
We all know how much better off those Katrina survivors were. Heck, Katrina worked out real swell for them.
Katrina Made for some good fish'n I hear.
(http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/o/f/bush_vacation_fishing.jpg)