70's Bodybuilding Diet

[Go 4 It]

Reading about diets of fhe 70's bbodybuilers, majority of them were pretty much doing a keto diet with a weekly carb up, fats coming from red meat, egg yolks, and cottage cheese. This diet got them in shape with little to no cardio, when did bodybuilders begin to steer away from this diet and venture into incorporating the lower fat, carb cycle type approach? Seems like the guys in the 70s had the right formula? I know i had success with a cutting keto diet for my second show, but now looking into doing more of this 70s type of diet as a maintainance diet any of you guys have success with this old school approach ?

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Make sure you take plenty of Amphetamines to curb your appetite

[Hulkotron]

Heavy cream (no homo) and "breathing squats" to expand the ribcage oh brother

[mr.turbo]

didn't read

how's the upper chest coming?

[Grape Ape]

Heavy cream (no homo) and "breathing squats" to expand the ribcage oh brother

Just add desiccated liver tabs and pullovers and you can rule.

[PJim]

I'm currently on high carbs whilst cutting and am actually gaining strength. I rarely found that to be the case whilst doing low or no carbs. If you're clean/natural it should be about losing fat steadily whilst trying to maintain as much fullness as possible. I'd rather diet on slightly higher calories and carbs than cut weight stupidly fast and sacrifice tonnes of size.

[SquatsRule]

Just add desiccated liver tabs and pullovers and you can rule.

Don't forget the glandulars and fertilized eggs for optimal hormone levels.

[johnnynoname]

is this gonna be one of those pissing contests where people argue "high carbs vs Keto vs IF vs IIFYM"?

THEY ALL WORK!!!

Just pick one or even better cycle using different, proven nutritional methods, keep it clean, train appropriately and you're fine


there is no such thing as "The best method"...there is only such thing as "do(ing)"

[d0nny2600]

is this gonna be one of those pissing contests where people argue "high carbs vs Keto vs IF vs IIFYM"?

THEY ALL WORK!!!

Just pick one or even better cycle using different, proven nutritional methods, keep it clean, train appropriately and you're fine


there is no such thing as "The best method"...there is only such thing as "do(ing)"

This X10000

[Go 4 It]

 

Heavy cream (no homo) and "breathing squats" to expand the ribcage oh brother

didn't read

how's the upper chest coming?

small improvement, focusing on it, pretty much doing all upper chest movements with some dips thrown into the mix.

I'm currently on high carbs whilst cutting and am actually gaining strength. I rarely found that to be the case whilst doing low or no carbs. If you're clean/natural it should be about losing fat steadily whilst trying to maintain as much fullness as possible. I'd rather diet on slightly higher calories and carbs than cut weight stupidly fast and sacrifice tonnes of size.

the thing is that you have to up the fats drastically, in order to have sufficient energy, that was the case for my prep on it, but now offseason I'm able to experiment with a lot more calories and gauge the progress and how I feel energy wise.

is this gonna be one of those pissing contests where people argue "high carbs vs Keto vs IF vs IIFYM"?

THEY ALL WORK!!!

Just pick one or even better cycle using different, proven nutritional methods, keep it clean, train appropriately and you're fine


there is no such thing as "The best method"...there is only such thing as "do(ing)"

I'm not debating if one works better then the other, but which one is optimal, and which one you feel the best on. Having stable energy levels, with out any crashes, relying on caffeine for artificial energy, gut health, bloating...that's what I'm looking for.

[Zillotch]

steroids and starvation… pretty simple.

[mazrim]

Well, arnold himself is quoted as eating pies after working out along with Franco and Nubret ate high protein/high carb/low fat the premise is up for debate to begin with.

[Go 4 It]

steroids and starvation… pretty simple.

haha

Well, arnold himself is quoted as eating pies after working out along with Franco and Nubret ate high protein/high carb/low fat the premise is up for debate to begin with.

they ate all out on sundays, mon-sat they ate : eggs, beef, cottage cheese, and shakes composed of heavy cream/whole eggs

[Coach is Back!]

Make sure you take plenty of Amphetamines to curb your appetite

Very little has changed in that sense.

[Howard]

is this gonna be one of those pissing contests where people argue "high carbs vs Keto vs IF vs IIFYM"?

THEY ALL WORK!!!

Just pick one or even better cycle using different, proven nutritional methods, keep it clean, train appropriately and you're fine


there is no such thing as "The best method"...there is only such thing as "do(ing)"

TRUTH x 1000!

[Thespritz0]

Reading about diets of fhe 70's bbodybuilers, majority of them were pretty much doing a keto diet with a weekly carb up, fats coming from red meat, egg yolks, and cottage cheese. This diet got them in shape with little to no cardio, when did bodybuilders begin to steer away from this diet and venture into incorporating the lower fat, carb cycle type approach? Seems like the guys in the 70s had the right formula? I know i had success with a cutting keto diet for my second show, but now looking into doing more of this 70s type of diet as a maintainance diet any of you guys have success with this old school approach ?

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YES....

[a_pupil]

didn't arnie say he got leaner with the fish and rice diet?

never had much success with keto as it makes me too prone to binge. and that mental fog messed me up from posting on getbig at work

[mazrim]

hahathey ate all out on sundays, mon-sat they ate : eggs, beef, cottage cheese, and shakes composed of heavy cream/whole eggs

Oh, ok, I'll take your word for it....

[Spike]

All ground round , eggs and dbol

[WannaBePro]

didn't arnie say he got leaner with the fish and rice diet?

never had much success with keto as it makes me too prone to binge. and that mental fog messed me up from posting on getbig at work

I was on keto for like a year. I will say this, the brain fog goes away about 3 weeks in (for me, at least). But I did real keto, not "bodybuilder keto." I was doing about 70/30 fats/protein. Energy levels were awesome, had no urge to binge, workouts were great, etc... Just like they would have been if I was eating carbs. I'm now doing a carb-centric diet (trying new things is always good), and what I noticed is I feel much worse with carbs... Energy levels crash about an hour after eating, WAY hungrier by the time I eat my next meal. Workouts are good though, my intra shake includes about 40g carbs.
Anyway, that's my experience with keto.

[Straw Man]

I was on keto for like a year. I will say this, the brain fog goes away about 3 weeks in (for me, at least). But I did real keto, not "bodybuilder keto." I was doing about 70/30 fats/protein. Energy levels were awesome, had no urge to binge, workouts were great, etc... Just like they would have been if I was eating carbs. I'm now doing a carb-centric diet (trying new things is always good), and what I noticed is I feel much worse with carbs... Energy levels crash about an hour after eating, WAY hungrier by the time I eat my next meal. Workouts are good though, my intra shake includes about 40g carbs.
Anyway, that's my experience with keto.

a few questions

what  would a typical day of  eating look like

were the 40 grams of carb intra workout your  only carbs

how many grams of protein per day (just curious because most Keto diets restrict protein t avoid gluconeogenesis)

the hardest part for me has always been eating so much fat which is essential otherwise your body would likely breakdown muscle to convert to glucose for energy (assuming protein was also relatively low)

[Donny]

Intresting thread...

[WannaBePro]

a few questions

what  would a typical day of  eating look like

were the 40 grams of carb intra workout your  only carbs

how many grams of protein per day (just curious because most Keto diets restrict protein t avoid gluconeogenesis)

the hardest part for me has always been eating so much fat which is essential otherwise your body would likely breakdown muscle to convert to glucose for energy (assuming protein was also relatively low)

No direct carbs on keto, I'm doing intra carbs now that I switched to a carb-based diet. The only "carbs" I got on keto came from broccoli, spinach, romaine lettuce, etc...
I calculated I need about 2500 calories to cut from where I started, and I just calculated protein to be about 185g (I actually started with 170g) and fats to be about 195g (actual number ended up being about 180g at the beginning). Then as I went along, I lowered calories every 2 weeks until I got to about 1900 (same macro ratios), then just kind of maintained at 2000 - 2100.
My food would consist of red meat, pork, salmon, mackerel, chicken thigh. For snacks I had macadamia nuts (got kind of addicted to those...), walnuts, brazil nuts, coconut oil, x-virgin olive oil, etc... Veggies all came from leafy greens. I weighed everything out for the first couple months, then I was able to eyeball stuff and rarely used my food scale. I actually did very well, mentally, on this diet. I guess I'm just one of those people who does well on fat-based diets.

[FREAKgeek]

Reading about diets of fhe 70's bbodybuilers, majority of them were pretty much doing a keto diet with a weekly carb up, fats coming from red meat, egg yolks, and cottage cheese. This diet got them in shape with little to no cardio, when did bodybuilders begin to steer away from this diet and venture into incorporating the lower fat, carb cycle type approach? Seems like the guys in the 70s had the right formula? I know i had success with a cutting keto diet for my second show, but now looking into doing more of this 70s type of diet as a maintainance diet any of you guys have success with this old school approach ?

Good point. They knew back then and earlier that sugar got you fat. They knew to avoid excess simple sugars and carbs to help drop the excess water and fat. And yet, in the 1980's somehow the whole high carb low fat craze exploded. It's bizarre.

[Straw Man]

Good point. They knew back then and earlier that sugar got you fat. They knew to avoid excess simple sugars and carbs to help drop the excess water and fat. And yet, in the 1980's somehow the whole high carb low fat craze exploded. It's bizarre.

probably had to do in some respect with the medical community pushing low fat, low cholesterol, Food Pyramid BS