So much for the theory that it was "Just That House"

[Jack T. Cross]

according to this site were lucky if the cops can walk and and talk at the same time,let alone judge behavioral habits  

lol..they're terrible, I know (cops, I mean  ).

[Hugo Chavez]

of course, because daddy standing there holding his 2 year old is so scary suspicious

[Shockwave]

How are you going to sue after the fact. If the cops broke something and you have proof, sure. What they did feels so absolutely wrong. It looked wrong and to me violated Constitutional rights but the cops are going to say that public safety overroad that. I'm not a lawyer but 3 could tell you chapter and verse on both sides I'm sure.

Agreed.
People are so quick to just hand over their privacy for security... It seems so wrong.
It's like we just hand our liberty over while applauding. I don't know wtf is going on with people today.

[Jack T. Cross]

I wonder how widespread the problem of undue entry was, and whether there was a pattern with particular commanders, etc.

[Jack T. Cross]

I hope there are a lot of settlements, and the local media picks it up.

[Soul Crusher]

That guy with the boat is fucked since most insurance polices have a terrorism exlusion.

[Hugo Chavez]

that's not illegal search

for the record... banging on a door, ordering the family out of the house and then searching the house, with no direct cause, is absolutely an illegal search unless martial law is declared... oops sorry, I meant unless shelter in place, is declared.    

[Hugo Chavez]

That guy with the boat is fucked since most insurance polices have a terrorism exlusion.

They have a fund going where they will be distributing money to those who were effected. A boat replacement will be one of the smaller bills on this list.

[blacken700]

for the record... banging on a door, ordering the family out of the house and then searching the house, with no direct cause, is absolutely an illegal search unless martial law is declared... oops sorry, I meant unless shelter in place, is declared.    

that's not what the real lawyers are saying,but your entitled to your own opinion but you can't state it as actually fact. sorry

[Agnostic007]

so what?

if one of them said they didnt do the right thing would that change your mind?

the majority wanted obamacare repealed, does that matter to you?

illegal search is illegal search no matter if the person being searched is ok with it or not.

There are exceptions to the search warrant as you likely know. But I'll play along.. for the sake of argument. Bad guy runs into the house and tells family. If you tell police I'm here I will kill little becky. Police knock on door and dad answers..

Police - Is the bad guy in your house?

Dad- No, no bad guys here

Police- Ok, thanks, enjoy your dinner


Bad guy kills family to cover his escape.

Next day half of this board would be on here talking about how incompetent the cops were for NOT clearing the houses and leaving those poor citizens at the mercy of the bomber...

   

[Soul Crusher]

However - they missed the boat in open plainview sight w blood on it. 

[Agnostic007]

90% of Germans believed that the Nazi party was a good thing too...

Just kills you doesn't it... you can't plead "I don't hate all cops" when you take stands like this.. you are a cop hater Tu... that's ok, you must have your reasons, but please stop pretending you are an average citizen who thinks rationally and open minded.

[Jack T. Cross]

The cops need to be placed into a situation where they are made to answer for each incident where they chose to enter a particular residence without first gaining consent. 

For future reference, we need to know the reasoning, and they need to explain.

Would anyone disagree?

[tu_holmes]

Just kills you doesn't it... you can't plead "I don't hate all cops" when you take stands like this.. you are a cop hater Tu... that's ok, you must have your reasons, but please stop pretending you are an average citizen who thinks rationally and open minded.

Not at all. What part of my statement was incorrect?

I make a factual statement about Germany not even 80 years ago and you decide that makes me a "cop hater"?

Puh lease.

[Skip8282]

There are exceptions to the search warrant as you likely know. But I'll play along.. for the sake of argument. Bad guy runs into the house and tells family. If you tell police I'm here I will kill little becky. Police knock on door and dad answers..

Police - Is the bad guy in your house?

Dad- No, no bad guys here

Police- Ok, thanks, enjoy your dinner


Bad guy kills family to cover his escape.

Next day half of this board would be on here talking about how incompetent the cops were for NOT clearing the houses and leaving those poor citizens at the mercy of the bomber...

   

So, what makes you think if the cops went barging in under your hypothetical that the gunman wouldn't open up and kill everyone or try to?

[Red29]

lol american media. haha. i dont trust any of it. all bullshit

[240 is Back]

GTA Boston

[Agnostic007]

However - they missed the boat in open plainview sight w blood on it. 

From what I understand, the boat was outside the 20 block perimeter they searched. So it isn't like they searched the house where to boat was and didn't bother to search the boat. 

[24KT]

Police Ordering Families Out Of Their Homes At Gunpoint...  This video shows that it was house after house done like that and not just one.

The more friendly searches we saw on that first day were most likely filmed for official media release by a government agency.
 
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WTF?!!! Am I in the Twilight Zone?

@~20 sec in: "Each time they rescued a family at the point of a gun"?  WTF? 
I must have a completely different dictionary or something. 'Each time they rescued a family'...
If the stakes weren't so high, ...this would be absolutely downright comical. All I can say is Good Luck. 

[Roger Bacon]

The cops need to be placed into a situation where they are made to answer for each incident where they chose to enter a particular residence without first gaining consent. 

For future reference, we need to know the reasoning, and they need to explain.

Would anyone disagree?

YES

There's absulutly no accountability though.  Same deal with Tasers.

[Skip8282]

haha....had a feeling he would cower from my question.

And I doubt there's any significant empirical evidence to support one scenario over the other.

Seems you would want the default position to be for respecting rights.

[Agnostic007]

haha....had a feeling he would cower from my question.

And I doubt there's any significant empirical evidence to support one scenario over the other.

Seems you would want the default position to be for respecting rights.

I would think public safety would be of concern to you

[tu_holmes]

haha....had a feeling he would cower from my question.

And I doubt there's any significant empirical evidence to support one scenario over the other.

Seems you would want the default position to be for respecting rights.

He avoids these questions because in reality, he wants to have more power than you. He just doesn't want you to know it.

He doesn't want to admit that he thinks he is above you because he carries a badge.

It's disgraceful.

[Agnostic007]

He avoids these questions because in reality, he wants to have more power than you. He just doesn't want you to know it.

He doesn't want to admit that he thinks he is above you because he carries a badge.

It's disgraceful.

Yes, it would be disgraceful, if any of that were true.. It's only reality in your head Tu 

[Agnostic007]

so what?

if one of them said they didnt do the right thing would that change your mind?

the majority wanted obamacare repealed, does that matter to you?

illegal search is illegal search no matter if the person being searched is ok with it or not.

I agree with that... were they conducting illegal searches?