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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Tony Doherty on April 16, 2013, 07:32:03 PM
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25 years ago (1988) I promoted my first IFBB amateur show. Brian Buchanan was the guest poser. Since then I have brought just about ever pro to Australia and have promoted the Australian Pro for the last 13 years. Have had every Mr Olympia here since Haney and promoted around 100 contests. There have been plenty of highs and lows but overall it has been a great trip. Paul Graham gave me a chance when I was only 23, so thanks to him for believing in me all that time ago.
Thought I would start this thread and put up a few pics you may have never seen from along the way. Happy to answer any questions and maybe tell a few stories.
Thanks to all of the athletes, fans and sponsors that have supported. Getbig has been a huge part of it over the years, I have been here since Ron stated it at American bodybuilding. Have met a lot of you from here over the years, so thanks to Ron and Getbig.
TD
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And?
(http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/ee348/AlicoolSkywalker/AttentionWhore.jpg)
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How much was you first sanction fee?
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How much was you first sanction fee?
I think it was about $1000 for the amateur show and a lot more for the 1st pro show.
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You got any pics of when Yates guest posed in 1992?
He looked insane for being two weeks after a show.
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Here is a shot that I took at the Olympia that year. I will find a shot of when he got here. You are right he was in insane shape. Still eating tuna out of a can 3 weeks after the Olympia to give the fans good value.
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Why don't you promote female bodybuilding? Be honest.
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Congrats, 1988 was the year I started BB too.... (I'm old)
What about Lou Ferrgino's comeback 92/93 do you have any pics ?
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Do getbiggers train for free in you gyms?
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Here is a shot that I took at the Olympia that year. I will find a shot of when he got here. You are right he was in insane shape. Still eating tuna out of a can 3 weeks after the Olympia to give the fans good value.
Nice photo!
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Cool story bro
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Why don't you promote female bodybuilding? Be honest.
Because they don't work. No one wants to sponsor them and the fan base is tiny. The numbers on an amateur level have dwindled away to nothing. The rise of figure over the years and now bikini has proven to be incredibly popular. The other division, physique is more achievable and watchable.
Is that honest enough?
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Do getbiggers train for free in you gyms?
Sometimes they do. I have had a few drop in over the years and introduce themselves, free workout and sometimes a shirt.
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Sometimes they do. I have had a few drop in over the years and introduce themselves, free workout and sometimes a shirt.
Cool 8) any posedown between them and you bro? :D
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Congrats, 1988 was the year I started BB too.... (I'm old)
What about Lou Ferrgino's comeback 92/93 do you have any pics ?
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I had Louie here about 10 weeks before his comeback show. He guest posed at 330lb, which was 70lb heavier than when he did Pumping Iron 17 years earlier.
He was without doubt the biggest guest poser we have ever had. We had 3 generations of fans came out to see him that weekend.
I then flew to Finland for the Mr O and took some great shots of him there. (Will find more and post them up.)
Attached,
1. Me interviewing Louie onstage back then. It was an incredible interview and something I will never forget.
2. A pic of a pic in my gym of Louie in his comeback Olympia.
3. Me interviewing Louie for Flexonline at last years Olympia.
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Because they don't work. No one wants to sponsor them and the fan base is tiny. The numbers on an amateur level have dwindled away to nothing. The rise of figure over the years and now bikini has proven to be incredibly popular. The other division, physique is more achievable and watchable.
Is that honest enough?
Should completely do away with that abomination. Thanks for being part of the solution.
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I don't post on GetBig much these days, however, I felt the need to give respect where respect is WITHOUT A DOUBT due.
Congrats to you, Tony. Have ALWAYS been a very big fan of your shows. And have loved ( and do love ) the many things you post here on GetBig. You are a great contributer to not only this forum, but to bodybuilding as a whole as well. Thank you. :) :)
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Here are a few random ones from 10 or more years ago.
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congrats Tony on 25 years!
youre looking pretty jacked in that pic of you with the sleeveless shirt!
who were your top 5 favorite pro's - in terms of entertainment/seminar/overall value for the fans-that you brought to australia?
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true great legend !
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Do you know booty?
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Are you related to Vinnie Jones?
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congrats Tony on 25 years!
who were your top 5 favorite pro's - in terms of entertainment/seminar/overall value for the fans-that you brought to australia?
Another one for this question. And another 'congratulations' from an ex Melbourne boy.
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very cool photos, Tony.
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25 years ago (1988) I promoted my first IFBB amateur show. Brian Buchanan was the guest poser. Since then I have brought just about ever pro to Australia and have promoted the Australian Pro for the last 13 years. Have had every Mr Olympia here since Haney and promoted around 100 contests. There have been plenty of highs and lows but overall it has been a great trip. Paul Graham gave me a chance when I was only 23, so thanks to him for believing in me all that time ago.
Thought I would start this thread and put up a few pics you may have never seen from along the way. Happy to answer any questions and maybe tell a few stories.
Thanks to all of the athletes, fans and sponsors that have supported. Getbig has been a huge part of it over the years, I have been here since Ron stated it at American bodybuilding. Have met a lot of you from here over the years, so thanks to Ron and Getbig.
TD
Congratulations Tony, my brother and his mate went to see Brian Buchanan at a seminar when he came out. All I remember is they said it was good day, but wished he talked more about the drugs. Can't please everyone I suppose.
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Sometimes they do. I have had a few drop in over the years and introduce themselves, free workout and sometimes a shirt.
I have trained at your gym Tony with ' the famous girlymuscle'. It was the gym in the city, in the tunnel.
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I have trained at your gym Tony with ' the famous girlymuscle'. It was the gym in the city, in the tunnel.
The Brunswick one is insane. Has about 7 different chest press machines.
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iv,e never met you but ;Dwell done tony for 25yrs work,must of been a buzz meeting with some great bodybuilders.
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Keep the pics and storys coming. Congrats
Who was the biggest asshole and who was the most polite of all the pros? Understand if you dont want to answer the first q
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Tony, I'm in Melbourne in June. Will you punch me in the face if I come to your gym? I would like to get a thumbs up photo with you.
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Tony, I'm in Melbourne in June. Will you punch me in the face if I come to your gym? I would like to get a thumbs up photo with you.
If you need to be punched in the face, I can help you out with that. ;D
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Tony, I'm in Melbourne in June. Will you punch me in the face if I come to your gym? I would like to get a thumbs up photo with you.
You are making the rounds aren't you Jamie? :D
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If you need to be punched in the face, I can help you out with that. ;D
Where do you live? Don't make me go all Grant on you!
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If you need to be punched in the face, I can help you out with that. ;D
The three of us need to have tea up at Olinda. ;D
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You are making the rounds aren't you Jamie? :D
;)
It's actually a bit of a pain all the travel lately. I've got a trip to Sydney soon then 2 weeks later I hit Melbs and brizzy
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The Brunswick one is insane. Has about 7 different chest press machines.
Regrettably haven't trained there but only heard great things.
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;)
It's actually a bit of a pain all the travel lately. I've got a trip to Sydney soon then 2 weeks later I hit Melbs and brizzy
Might have to get you to bring some chocolate fish with you.
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Might have to get you to bring some chocolate fish that massive cock of yours with you.
:o
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:o
HAHA Trust you Jamie to edit it. ;D
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The three of us need to have tea up at Olinda. ;D
Olinda, that's not far from where I currently reside at the foothills of the Dandenong Ranges. And scones and tea is popular up there. lol
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You will be remembered alongside Newton, I have no doubt
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respect from a fellow Doherty :)
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Olinda, that's not far from where I currently reside at the foothills of the Dandenong Ranges. And scones and tea is popular up there. lol
I know e- kul I remember where you live because I lived around that area for 6 months when I first moved to Melbourne. I love Olinda and always have scones and tea at miss marples. ;D
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congrats Tony on 25 years!
youre looking pretty jacked in that pic of you with the sleeveless shirt!
who were your top 5 favorite pro's - in terms of entertainment/seminar/overall value for the fans-that you brought to australia?
That's hard to narrow down.
Guest posers
Louie
Ronnie
Phil
Jay
Kai
Competitors
Cormier
Dexter
Freeman
Vince Taylor
Lee
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Keep the pics and storys coming. Congrats
Who was the biggest asshole and who was the most polite of all the pros? Understand if you dont want to answer the first q
Most polite and grateful would be Kai.
Asshole, none really although there have been a couple of bad sports and a few ungrateful takers. Never the top guys, always some new guy that has got a bit ahead of himself. Life has a way of bringing you back down to earth.
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Congrats Tony D on your gym and promotional career... Most people could only dream of owning a successful gym.
Most gyms close down after a few years.
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Most polite and grateful would be Kai.
Asshole, none really although there have been a couple of bad sports and a few ungrateful takers. Never the top guys, always some new guy that has got a bit ahead of himself. Life has a way of bringing you back down to earth.
cool thanks tony. keep the pics coming.
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Some more random pics.
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Congrats Tony on your the first quarter of a century! You are doing great job! Have you been happy with the last Expo?
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respect from a fellow Doherty :)
Great physique, good job!
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Some more random pics.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=470541.0;attach=514099;image)
Fucking wow
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Congrats Tony, thanks for being one of the people keeping Bodybuiding alive for all these years!
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Don't let any Queenlander's in the gym Tony.
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Despite being Australian, Tony is a good dude.
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Congrats and thanks Tony!!
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Tony, I'm in Melbourne in June. Will you punch me in the face if I come to your gym? I would like to get a thumbs up photo with you.
Bump
Also, I have about 15 quality photos of the 2001 NZ Grand Prix. How did you upload those old photos?
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Also, I have about 15 quality photos of the 2001 NZ Grand Prix. How did you upload those old photos?
Also load up pre-judging photos of the 2001 Aussie Grand Prix, the first one.
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Tony, I'm in Melbourne in June. Will you punch me in the face if I come to your gym? I would like to get a thumbs up photo with you.
Your choice, punch in the face or thumbs up photo. (Thumbs up photo includes a free workout)
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A few more random shots
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Congrats Tony!
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Arvilla rocks
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Tony
why dont you where your bumbag any more? ;D
it would look great with your suit
was Louie really bigger than Kovacs?
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Tony
why dont you where your bumbag any more? ;D
it would look great with your suit
was Louie really bigger than Kovacs?
Haha, I got a good run out of that bumbag and sold a lot of them as well.
Louie was incredible in his comeback year. Kovaks was huge but never had the quality or maturity of Louie.
Interestingly I got to interview Louie at last year's Olympia and I thought he would be a bit twisted and bitter about today's pros. He was quite the opposite.
He was in awe of Phil and Kai and is still a massive fan of the sport, he even paid me $20 to have a picture with him.
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2012-olympia-interview-lou-ferrigno
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Haha, I got a good run out of that bumbag and sold a lot of them as well.
Louie was incredible in his comeback year. Kovaks was huge but never had the quality or maturity of Louie.
Interestingly I got to interview Louie at last year's Olympia and I thought he would be a bit twisted and bitter about today's pros. He was quite the opposite.
He was in awe of Phil and Kai and is still a massive fan of the sport, he even paid me $20 to have a picture with him.
http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifbb/2012-olympia-interview-lou-ferrigno
Which is like $5 Australian now, he's still ripping you off
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Your choice, punch in the face or thumbs up photo. (Thumbs up photo includes a free workout)
Cheers mate, might have to take you up on that ;)
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Don't let any Queenlander's in the gym Tony.
Mmmmmm
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25 years in anything, let alone the gonzo lifting world is to be applauded, Tony. Best wishes for continued success.
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I had Louie here about 10 weeks before his comeback show. He guest posed at 330lb, which was 70lb heavier than when he did Pumping Iron 17 years earlier.
He was without doubt the biggest guest poser we have ever had. We had 3 generations of fans came out to see him that weekend.
I then flew to Finland for the Mr O and took some great shots of him there. (Will find more and post them up.)
Attached,
1. Me interviewing Louie onstage back then. It was an incredible interview and something I will never forget.
2. A pic of a pic in my gym of Louie in his comeback Olympia.
3. Me interviewing Louie for Flexonline at last years Olympia.
That's awesome! to be right there and see the biggest comeback in BB history and Ferrigno at that super human size !
Thanks a lot for sharing !
WOOOSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHH
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So any Aussies watching, make sure you check out Max's Muscle TV now on Foxtel Aurora and 7s TV4ME. Monday and Tuesday nights with repeats all over the week.
This is our 6th series and it is going stronger than ever.
He I am teaching from this weeks show.
Check it out Getbiggers.... (If you train haha)
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Keep those damn Queenslanders out Tony. See what they did to do to Mel.
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So any Aussies watching, make sure you check out Max's Muscle TV now on Foxtel Aurora and 7s TV4ME. Monday and Tuesday nights with repeats all over the week.
This is our 6th series and it is going stronger than ever.
He I am teaching from this weeks show.
Check it out Getbiggers.... (If you train haha)
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I watched some on Saturday night. Made me realise I should have gone out with my friends.
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Keep those damn Queenslanders out Tony. See what they did to do to Mel.
You can't keep us out. :D
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You can't keep us out. :D
Let me call Tony and try to make an exception for you. I'm sure wants another hot body in the gym, I guess one Queenslander isnt all that bad.
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:)
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:)
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Bump.
Woosshhhhhhhh
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Ive had the pleasure and the privilege of having coffee and a chat with Tony over the years down at the gym.... Even sponsored the local shows with some prizes for Tony.
Always a class act and has the best gym bar none.....
Just waiting for Tony to take over promoting the UFC here in Australia and then everything will be done right.
Travis
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Ive had the pleasure and the privilege of having coffee and a chat with Tony over the years down at the gym.... Even sponsored the local shows with some prizes for Tony.
Always a class act and has the best gym bar none.....
Just waiting for Tony to take over promoting the UFC here in Australia and then everything will be done right.
Travis
Dude, you are well overdue for a coffee.
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Have had every Mr Olympia
No homo?
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No homo?
Had not hammered.
Hosted not toasted.
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Arnolds huge cadavar gh hands
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Some of you have messaged for me to post the YouTube and story so here it is.
Thanks for asking. Enjoy!
I started out in the gym business in about 1985, I had been working at a fitness centre in my home town for a year or two and saw an opportunity to buy it. I thought I knew everything and I paid way too much for it. At the time there was two gyms in a town of 100,000 people. Within three years there were nine gyms and the market share had shrunk. I still thought I knew it all and pushed ahead, losing money every month. I had gone into it with my parents backing and after the first few years just about lost the lot, including the family home. Being a cocky ****er, I just didn't get it and continued to think I knew it all, as young men do.
By 1994 things had become really bad, the town was over saturated by gyms, two more had opened up in my street and the wolves were circling. By then I was becoming well established as a bodybuilding promoter in Melbourne and knew that I needed to move quickly or lose the lot. I just could not see a way out. Then it hit me. I went to see the guy that had opened across the road, I knew his lease was coming up and he wanted to grow. I offered him my lease, all of my members and some equipment. I would walk away and he would get a better building and double his membership overnight. My only condition was that he would honour the members that had paid upfront, after all my folks still had to live int he town and I had to walk away with some dignity.
My dad has always been a partner in the business and we have become very close over the years, he still does all the bookwork and accounts which allows me to forge ahead.
I opened up in Brunswick, Melbourne in a small warehouse (400m2) with a truckload of worn out equipment, zero members and a dream. I had learned a lot but still thought I knew it all, there would be some more hard medicine ahead, all I had going for me was that I was too driven, stubborn or stupid to quit. At that time all I wanted was somewhere to train, somewhere to live and a Harley Davison motorcycle (one day).
The first year I lost everything to keep the doors open, house, cars, furniture, you name it I lost it. The phone or power got cut every month for the first year, at least. I had no where to live and no car, all I had was a vertical grill and a rice cooker. I slept on the couch at the gym most nights for that first 9 months, I would get up in the morning and walk up to the main road to get a paper and a coffee. This way it looked like I had come from somewhere when I would walk to the gym to open up at 6AM. I would work through to 9PM, most days on my own until everyone had left, once again I would lock up and pretend to head home until everyone had gone, then sneak back and let myself back in.
I stayed with Sonny Schmidt's family a couple of nights a week and his brother Pale stated working at the gym. They were very kind to me and that Samoan food kept me going. When Sonny moved back to Australia we managed to get a little rental across from the gym, it was a dump but worked great at the time. I started training like crazy with Sonny for the Olympia's and the gym started to get a following. People would come to watch us train and I started to get a few clients.
I still had nothing to show, but the gym was starting to go better and I had paid back most of the bills that I had bought with me. Once I started to get on top, I would buy a piece of equipment every time that I had some money in the bank. It was 6 years before started to get a regular wage but I managed to hustle up enough to survive between contests, personal training and a bit of debt collecting.
It was about this time that I started to wise up and realise that I didn't know everything at all. By now I had met Amanda (my wife to be) and we were starting to live a bit better. I managed to put food on the table, but still no car or flash living. At least I had killed my ego and learned a lot about myself and people from all walks of life. Looking back, going hungry and losing just about everything was the best thing that happened to me, no easy ride and looking down the barrel every day was probably what I needed to wake me up.
By 1998 we had kind of out grown the small building and the landlord wanted to turn it into apartments. So after finally getting ahead, (still no wage) but I owned all my equipment and had started to get our name out there. It was then that I found our current building, it was three times the size and the rent was also three times the size. However I have always thought that you have to risk something that matters. So with that we moved into Weston Street and it was like starting all over again. We went 24:7 immediately and things got really bad again. It was a good gym but with the overheads going up so much, it was impossible to make a buck. For the next three years I fought every day, worked twelve hour days and did everything myself, cleaning, maintenance, graphics, mail-outs, contests and day to day management. Things slowly started to turn around. I kept my policy of buying equipment every time I could, I would scour the internet and auction sites to find the best stuff I could at the right price. I kept pushing myself and by the time my first child was born in 2002, I was earning wages every week and business was looking better than before.
In 2001 I held our first pro show and the brand started to get known worldwide. We started to attract all types of athletes form Olympians to AFL footballers and power athletes from everywhere. Around 2004 we launched Muscle TV and I had started to work as a strength and conditioning coach at the Carlton Football Club, which gave us more credibility and a bigger following. Over the next 5 years it started to work, I kept buying equipment and expanding the gym. To this day I own every piece in every gym and don't lease any equipment at all. It keeps your overheads down and takes away most of the stress.
Three years ago I had a opportunity to buy an old hardcore gym that was rundown and going broke, it was in a great location and just need some love. I had to risk everything all over again. With the encouragement of my wife and family I went for it. We fixed it up nice and it is now very busy day and night. A couple of years ago I had the same opportunity in the middle of the City, it was in worse shape and provided the biggest challenge of all. It is also flying now and to have Tiger Woods train there for the last two weeks was the icing on the cake. We have done the same again North of where we are and also in my original home town. The last two are still to break even but heading in the right direction and getting busier every week.
The expos and shows have taken over a lot of my time now but have huge potential. I now have 62 staff and 4 of the gyms run 24:7, every day of the year. We have four healthy kids and live pretty well. I have never forgotten where I have come from and love to see others reach their potential. I still spend every day in the gym and wouldn't change it for the world. I am still working on the gym to make it better and will never stop trying to improve the product and the brand.
"It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll"
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Some of you have messaged for me to post the YouTube and story so here it is.
Thanks for asking. Enjoy!
I started out in the gym business in about 1985, I had been working at a fitness centre in my home town for a year or two and saw an opportunity to buy it. I thought I knew everything and I paid way too much for it. At the time there was two gyms in a town of 100,000 people. Within three years there were nine gyms and the market share had shrunk. I still thought I knew it all and pushed ahead, losing money every month. I had gone into it with my parents backing and after the first few years just about lost the lot, including the family home. Being a cocky ****er, I just didn't get it and continued to think I knew it all, as young men do.
By 1994 things had become really bad, the town was over saturated by gyms, two more had opened up in my street and the wolves were circling. By then I was becoming well established as a bodybuilding promoter in Melbourne and knew that I needed to move quickly or lose the lot. I just could not see a way out. Then it hit me. I went to see the guy that had opened across the road, I knew his lease was coming up and he wanted to grow. I offered him my lease, all of my members and some equipment. I would walk away and he would get a better building and double his membership overnight. My only condition was that he would honour the members that had paid upfront, after all my folks still had to live int he town and I had to walk away with some dignity.
My dad has always been a partner in the business and we have become very close over the years, he still does all the bookwork and accounts which allows me to forge ahead.
I opened up in Brunswick, Melbourne in a small warehouse (400m2) with a truckload of worn out equipment, zero members and a dream. I had learned a lot but still thought I knew it all, there would be some more hard medicine ahead, all I had going for me was that I was too driven, stubborn or stupid to quit. At that time all I wanted was somewhere to train, somewhere to live and a Harley Davison motorcycle (one day).
The first year I lost everything to keep the doors open, house, cars, furniture, you name it I lost it. The phone or power got cut every month for the first year, at least. I had no where to live and no car, all I had was a vertical grill and a rice cooker. I slept on the couch at the gym most nights for that first 9 months, I would get up in the morning and walk up to the main road to get a paper and a coffee. This way it looked like I had come from somewhere when I would walk to the gym to open up at 6AM. I would work through to 9PM, most days on my own until everyone had left, once again I would lock up and pretend to head home until everyone had gone, then sneak back and let myself back in.
I stayed with Sonny Schmidt's family a couple of nights a week and his brother Pale stated working at the gym. They were very kind to me and that Samoan food kept me going. When Sonny moved back to Australia we managed to get a little rental across from the gym, it was a dump but worked great at the time. I started training like crazy with Sonny for the Olympia's and the gym started to get a following. People would come to watch us train and I started to get a few clients.
I still had nothing to show, but the gym was starting to go better and I had paid back most of the bills that I had bought with me. Once I started to get on top, I would buy a piece of equipment every time that I had some money in the bank. It was 6 years before started to get a regular wage but I managed to hustle up enough to survive between contests, personal training and a bit of debt collecting.
It was about this time that I started to wise up and realise that I didn't know everything at all. By now I had met Amanda (my wife to be) and we were starting to live a bit better. I managed to put food on the table, but still no car or flash living. At least I had killed my ego and learned a lot about myself and people from all walks of life. Looking back, going hungry and losing just about everything was the best thing that happened to me, no easy ride and looking down the barrel every day was probably what I needed to wake me up.
By 1998 we had kind of out grown the small building and the landlord wanted to turn it into apartments. So after finally getting ahead, (still no wage) but I owned all my equipment and had started to get our name out there. It was then that I found our current building, it was three times the size and the rent was also three times the size. However I have always thought that you have to risk something that matters. So with that we moved into Weston Street and it was like starting all over again. We went 24:7 immediately and things got really bad again. It was a good gym but with the overheads going up so much, it was impossible to make a buck. For the next three years I fought every day, worked twelve hour days and did everything myself, cleaning, maintenance, graphics, mail-outs, contests and day to day management. Things slowly started to turn around. I kept my policy of buying equipment every time I could, I would scour the internet and auction sites to find the best stuff I could at the right price. I kept pushing myself and by the time my first child was born in 2002, I was earning wages every week and business was looking better than before.
In 2001 I held our first pro show and the brand started to get known worldwide. We started to attract all types of athletes form Olympians to AFL footballers and power athletes from everywhere. Around 2004 we launched Muscle TV and I had started to work as a strength and conditioning coach at the Carlton Football Club, which gave us more credibility and a bigger following. Over the next 5 years it started to work, I kept buying equipment and expanding the gym. To this day I own every piece in every gym and don't lease any equipment at all. It keeps your overheads down and takes away most of the stress.
Three years ago I had a opportunity to buy an old hardcore gym that was rundown and going broke, it was in a great location and just need some love. I had to risk everything all over again. With the encouragement of my wife and family I went for it. We fixed it up nice and it is now very busy day and night. A couple of years ago I had the same opportunity in the middle of the City, it was in worse shape and provided the biggest challenge of all. It is also flying now and to have Tiger Woods train there for the last two weeks was the icing on the cake. We have done the same again North of where we are and also in my original home town. The last two are still to break even but heading in the right direction and getting busier every week.
The expos and shows have taken over a lot of my time now but have huge potential. I now have 62 staff and 4 of the gyms run 24:7, every day of the year. We have four healthy kids and live pretty well. I have never forgotten where I have come from and love to see others reach their potential. I still spend every day in the gym and wouldn't change it for the world. I am still working on the gym to make it better and will never stop trying to improve the product and the brand.
"It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll"
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Thanks Musclecenter!
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Cool story tony
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tony is a great guy..met him a few times at the oz pro show and is always smiling and willing to take a pix with you or say hello...last time was 2008..im planing going back next year and his gym is awesum to train in..cant wait :):)