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(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dorian_Yates/Yates_034.jpg)
Yates shows how to hit a lat spread!
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His Back was his major weakness and he could not pose worth a shit.With a very good back he would have had a Sandow such a shame.
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yes yates did show him how to do a proper lat spread..
but paul OWNED him on EVERY other bodypart...
bb judging is a joke
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yes yates did show him how to do a proper lat spread..
but paul OWNED him on EVERY other bodypart...
bb judging is a joke
Its not only bodyparts that count its comming in the day of the contest stripped of all fat and knowing how to properly display your phsyique , these are aspects Paul never mastered and it cost him , he was a true freak with size & asethetics , he could have owned the sport for years.
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wow thats interesting.
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Its not only bodyparts that count its comming in the day of the contest stripped of all fat and knowing how to properly display your phsyique , these are aspects Paul never mastered and it cost him , he was a true freak with size & asethetics , he could have owned the sport for years.
paul owned dorian... ND... and no amount of bobbing and weaving can change that... its the judges that saw things different,... he had better astehetics.. better bodyparts..
dorian had a better back and comditioning...
so what do the other bosy patrs not count...
BULLSHIT
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end of the day... bb is about muscle size shape astehics and conditioning..
dorina bet paul on conditioning..
PAUL OWNED him on every other aspect...
but like i aforementioned..
bb is subjective.... based on opinion..
u better believe that if it was like based on time and physics.. and FACTS eg.. runner a runs 10 secs.. runner B run 9 seconds.. therefore runner b wins... no opinion.. just facts... dorian would have never been mr olympia..
conditioning and a great back should not ultimately be what makes mr olympia... arms legs, shoulders abs... shoulder to waiste ratio.... etc..
dorian only beat paul on 1 bodypart.. so to my eyes... paul was bigger better... and had better musle shape.. therefore he is better... from a visual aspect
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Dillet recently said he put a picture of dorian on his fridge to inspire him - but he had to take it down because it did the complete opposite. So its not just the judges that knew dorian had the better physiqe, its dillet himself. All hail the king of bodybuilding!
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(http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Hungarian_Pro_EB/2003/Hungarian_Pro_EB_2003_014.jpg)
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paul was awesome
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dillet could easily have been the best of all time. what a shame.
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Paul had weak pecs and back. Terrible poser too.
Pauls strengths were arms, legs, and shoulder width.
(http://www.benchpresschampion.com/PHOTOS/MENBODYBUILDING/PaulDillett3.jpg)
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Paul had weak pecs and back. Terrible poser too.
Pauls strengths were arms, legs, and shoulder width.
(http://www.benchpresschampion.com/PHOTOS/MENBODYBUILDING/PaulDillett3.jpg)
nobodys perfect :)
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you tell him, "big dumbbell", hahaha. ::)
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Paul had weak pecs and back. Terrible poser too.
Pauls strengths were arms, legs, and shoulder width.
(http://www.benchpresschampion.com/PHOTOS/MENBODYBUILDING/PaulDillett3.jpg)
just look at his lats! ;D
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Paul's greatest pose and also in some ways his downfall, was standing relaxed from the front. The other pros at the time said "standing relaxed, Dillet was Mr Olympia". He was so good relaxed that he actually went down hill when he posed. Yates on the other hand, got better with every pose. Paul's posing was the worst, he could not even complete bicep from back or latt spread from back. His arms and legs were the biggest and best at the time. Unfortunately for Paul there is no standing relaxed from the front contest. This is not bad judging, conspricy or racism. Just the facts. Yates owned Dillet every time, I was at most contests they were in together.
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post more pics, paul was an animal
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In 1993, Paul Dillet couldnt pose his back. By 2003 Paul mastered the lat spread...
...and then he disappeared.
What happened to Dillet? Prison? Health problems? Too busy making money selling supplements online?
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Paul looks like he's a puppet on stage! everything is out of whack :-\
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paul owned dorian... ND... and no amount of bobbing and weaving can change that... its the judges that saw things different,... he had better astehetics.. better bodyparts..
dorian had a better back and comditioning...
so what do the other bosy patrs not count...
BULLSHIT
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end of the day... bb is about muscle size shape astehics and conditioning..
dorina bet paul on conditioning..
PAUL OWNED him on every other aspect...
but like i aforementioned..
bb is subjective.... based on opinion..
u better believe that if it was like based on time and physics.. and FACTS eg.. runner a runs 10 secs.. runner B run 9 seconds.. therefore runner b wins... no opinion.. just facts... dorian would have never been mr olympia..
conditioning and a great back should not ultimately be what makes mr olympia... arms legs, shoulders abs... shoulder to waiste ratio.... etc..
dorian only beat paul on 1 bodypart.. so to my eyes... paul was bigger better... and had better musle shape.. therefore he is better... from a visual aspect
Paul had amazing potential that he never lived up to , its not BS judging , on paper Paul has everything , height , size , shape , aesthetics , but his two major flaws were his back & his conditioning , again on paper NO ONE could stand with him from a structual standpoint but even with all those advantages he would get his ass handed to him in the mandatory poses , not just by Yates but by Levrone , Ray , Wheeler and others , sure body building is about size , shape , aesthetics but its also who loks best in the mandatory poses and this is were Paul would lag behind coupled with less then stella conditioning its understandable why Pual fell by the way side , just because you're blessed with great genetics it doesn't mean you'll be a winner.
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Paul had amazing potential that he never lived up to , its not BS judging , on paper Paul has everything , height , size , shape , aesthetics , but his two major flaws were his back & his conditioning , again on paper NO ONE could stand with him from a structual standpoint but even with all those advantages he would get his ass handed to him in the mandatory poses , not just by Yates but by Levrone , Ray , Wheeler and others , sure body building is about size , shape , aesthetics but its also who loks best in the mandatory poses and this is were Paul would lag behind coupled with less then stella conditioning its understandable why Pual fell by the way side , just because you're blessed with great genetics it doesn't mean you'll be a winner.
how does he appear currently
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How could someone so huge have such tiny pecs?
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best genetics my ass....that back is pathetic.
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How could someone so huge have such tiny pecs?
because someone didn't train pecs as much as his other bodyparts..
nice avatar by the way.. funny hitler shit
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No one can match Paul when he just stands there. Some how he looses it when he poses.
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if anyones going to be called 'the shadow' it should be dillet....
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/corndog7/dillet2.jpg)
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well paul dillet's back proably was weak because of all the overtraining due to bare backing with lee preist while he used priest as a bentover row
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Paul had weak pecs and back. Terrible poser too.
Pauls strengths were arms, legs, and shoulder width.
(http://www.benchpresschampion.com/PHOTOS/MENBODYBUILDING/PaulDillett3.jpg)
Paul Dillet had weak pecs ? If that's the case ... I wish I had weak pecs.
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that back pose is absolutely terrible for someone who looks as huge as him
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he could flare his lats standing "relaxed" but seemed to have trouble doing the same in an actual lat spread.
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Dorian looked terrible compared to LOTS of bodybuilders of his day from the front.
Here is my review of him in 1996 at the British GP:
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/1996englishgrandprixdvd.html
Why the hell does back hold so much weight in judging? He was not even top five from the front at that show - just dominated from the back and to a lesser extent from the side.
See I don't agree with you saying Yates looked terrible from the front , he had the best front latspread , and the best ab-thigh shot , pre-tear his front double bicep shot was excellent , while on paper Dillet should destory Yates in these poses yet he doesn't with the exception of the front double bicep shot , then again Yates never had a problem with his conditioning , where it was always problamatic with Paul .
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he could flare his lats standing "relaxed" but seemed to have trouble doing the same in an actual lat spread.
he just couldn't direct his nerves and back muscles
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if anyones going to be called 'the shadow' it should be dillet....
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/corndog7/dillet2.jpg)
this has got to be the greatest bodybuilding pic of all time....
he looks like a freakn superhero...
sick
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this has got to be the greatest bodybuilding pic of all time....
he looks like a freakn superhero...
sick
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so why dont you give credit to the photographer if you like it so much :)
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he could flare his lats standing "relaxed" but seemed to have trouble doing the same in an actual lat spread.
It's those shoulders. You can't really spread the lats without spreading the delts first and Paul's delts were shot from heavy lifting that caught up to him. Sore shoulders, no lat spread.
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His shoulders were so sore that he couldn't pose or lift his arms? I hope you're kidding, that's ridiculous.
Apparently his understanding of good presentation was the main problem. Unfortunately he never got the message. Back lat shot's about the only weak pose.
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That first back shot is BULLSHIT!
You can see his back is much wider then that from the other front shots.
Someone find Dillet's Best back shot, then we can talk about. Not his worst.
There's alot of pictures floating around that make Yates back look like shit too.
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There's alot of pictures floating around that make Yates back look like shit too.
I'm still waiting for Yate's good ones.. :D
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he had such a stupid looking moustache
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Paul had a very wide back , but when he did his back double bicep shot his back looked absolutely tiny , his had the gigantic arms , and delts and his back looked like a middleweights , this was a very akward pose for him.
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severe back injuries when he started competing prevented him from developing his back as he couldnt use heavy weights without incredible discomfort. He was so big that he couldnt hold a pose or fully squeeze his arms etc
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he was soooo big he couldnt pose- what kind of lame excuse is that?
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Great shoulders, arms, quads & calves. Stinky back & chest. Rancid poser. Very nice guy.
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its a fact, many people in Pro BBing have said Dilletts muscles were too big for him to pose properly
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Here is a better back shot. A small picture, but it does show a better than average back. :)
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Here is another one.
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Here is a better back shot. A small picture, but it does show a better than average back. :)
he was one of my favorites/ whatever happened to him ?
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I saw Dillet up closet at a Toronto show back in the mid 90's and when he walked past me I couldn't believe how enormous he was. Sure, his upperbody was mindblowing, but what really caught my eye was his legs and calves. The guy has some of the most impressive legs I've ever seen with calves the size of footballs. I think his calves are just as powerful as Yates and his legs are just phenominal.
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He was one of my favorites too. He had a lot of genetic talent. I wish he would have stayed around a bit longer.
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Paul guest posed here a number of years ago. He looked unbelievable, but had absolutely no control when he posed. It almost looked like it was painful for him to hit a pose.
Aside from that dude was a freak.
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its a fact, many people in Pro BBing have said Dilletts muscles were too big for him to pose properly
Then those people are idiots just like you.
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pre-tear his front double bicep shot was excellent
I think that is being just a tad over-zelous. it was okay, but not excellent. To have an 'excellent" front double biceps pose, it is a prerequisite that you have "excellent" biceps :)
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I think that is being just a tad over-zelous. it was okay, but not excellent. To have an 'excellent" front double biceps pose, it is a prerequisite that you have "excellent" biceps :)
oh please
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I think that is being just a tad over-zelous. it was okay, but not excellent. To have an 'excellent" front double biceps pose, it is a prerequisite that you have "excellent" biceps :)
His biceps wern't poor , perhaps could have been bigger but lets not get carried away .
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oh please
What?? his biceps were always overpowered by the rest of his physique. post or pre-tear. It was good, but certainly not excellent. Excellent would be Arnold, Ronnie (pre-gut) or Robby Robinson.
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while we are talking about biceps, does anyone have any Dillett shots of front double bis?
with his taper and crazy arms, he must have had a phenominal looking front double bi.
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What?? his biceps were always overpowered by the rest of his physique. post or pre-tear. It was good, but certainly not excellent. Excellent would be Arnold, Ronnie (pre-gut) or Robby Robinson.
pretty picky about excellence when it comes to others
but what about the blob
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What?? his biceps were always overpowered by the rest of his physique. post or pre-tear. It was good, but certainly not excellent. Excellent would be Arnold, Ronnie (pre-gut) or Robby Robinson.
Excellent would be Yates , among the best ever would be Coleman and Arnold , poor would be Dickerson and peep this Dillet double bi , mindblowing !!
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where is th one of him in suspenders with his fists on his hips, that one is cool.
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pretty picky about excellence when it comes to others
but what about the blob
I am very picky about Ronnie too -he is still winning because he has shitty competition, not because he looks like he used to - I just avoid criticizing the calves because I like to annoy ND! ;D
and i still dont think they are as important as back, chest or arms.
Case in point: in pumping iron, when arnold was asked to flex at the prison, did the prisoners ask him to flex his calf?
of course not. and this would never happen in real life either. A huge chest or arm is always going to be viewed as more impressive than big calves, and the judges have always followed suit. Thats just the way it is.
Calves are not as critical as other much larger bodyparts.
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I am very picky about Ronnie too -he is still winning because he has shitty competition, not because he looks like he used to - I just avoid criticizing the calves because I like to annoy ND! ;D
and i still dont think they are as important as back, chest or arms.
Case in point: in pumping iron, when arnold was asked to flex at the prison, did the prisoners ask him to flex his calf?
of course not. and this would never happen in real life either. A huge chest or arm is always going to be viewed as more impressive than big calves, and the judges have always followed suit. Thats just the way it is.
Calves are not as critical as other much larger bodyparts.
Thats why you have poor logic , calves can be seen in every single pose from every single angle , Arnold always said that when doing any pose weak calves ruin the whole effect ;)
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Dillet's freaky front double bicep shot , I know the angle helps but this is down right shocking.
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Yates was always the only one who would stick out his calf on any pose possible to show them off, case and point the side tricep. That alone could give him the edge over Ronnie on a given pose.
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Yates was always the only one who would stick out his calf on any pose possible to show them off, case and point the side tricep. That alone could give him the edge over Ronnie on a given pose.
but Ronnie could do the same thing with all of his other parts that are superior to Dorian (eg. glutes, hams, biceps, quads etc).
One bodypart does not make for a whole physique.
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but Ronnie could do the same thing with all of his other parts that are superior to Dorian (eg. glutes, hams, biceps, quads etc).
One bodypart does not make for a whole physique.
Again every single pose the calfs are plainly evident , you can't escape medicore calves , biceps you can .
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but Ronnie could do the same thing with all of his other parts that are superior to Dorian (eg. glutes, hams, biceps, quads etc).
One bodypart does not make for a whole physique.
Except for the fact that Dorian is within shooting range of Ronnie for the title if they were going head to head. Ronnie, despite his dominance now over jaw gutler, would not be blowing Dorian away at anything.
It would also be nice if we had some better photography of Yates from his best conditions at the O. All I can seem to find are some crappy pictures scanned out of a magazine which aren't that good to begin with.
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It would also be nice if we had some better photography of Yates from his best conditions at the O. All I can seem to find are some crappy pictures scanned out of a magazine which aren't that good to begin with.
I think ND has some in his jerk-off section of his hard drive. 8)
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Except for the fact that Dorian is within shooting range of Ronnie for the title if they were going head to head. Ronnie, despite his dominance now over jaw gutler, would not be blowing Dorian away at anything.
It would also be nice if we had some better photography of Yates from his best conditions at the O. All I can seem to find are some crappy pictures scanned out of a magazine which aren't that good to begin with.
A lot of Yates pictures look glossy because of his fair skin a lot of his detail seems to get washed away in pics without ideal lighting , with the right lighting you can see much more clarity.
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I think ND has some in his jerk-off section of his hard drive. 8)
I probably have more Coleman pics than Yates ;) and I'll leave the beating off to you and your hero .
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A lot of Yates pictures look glossy because of his fair skin a lot of his detail seems to get washed away in pics without ideal lighting , with the right lighting you can see much more clarity.
I have only found 1 great picture of Yates, that back double bi with the green background. Whether that was a guest posing or grand prix I don't know, but there is no way Dorian was in better condition in that picture than 93 or 95 in which he was at his best at the "O".
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Sorry I dont have any pics, but does anyone remember an old FLEX mag shoot where Dillett is playing pool and training in a pair of pants with suspenders. Some of the freakiest shots I've seen in 30 years as a fan of the sport. Dillett looks like a charicature, a freak, almost unbelievable in his shape, size, and hardness.
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"Smallish biceps..".
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wow... he makes cutler look like nothing.
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wow... he makes cutler look like nothing.
of course he does. In BFTO98 dillet was 287lbs and ripped.
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Paul was the only guy Dorian Yates really feared on stage.
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Paul was the only guy Dorian Yates really feared on stage.
Dorian never feared anyone on stage
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"Smallish biceps..".
That's gotts be one of the freakiest pics of all time ... :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52543.0;attach=58271;image)
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wow... he makes cutler look like nothing.
no he doesn't
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That's gotts be one of the freakiest pics of all time ... :o
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=52543.0;attach=58271;image)
Also note that Paul is standing closer to the camera then Jay.
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Also note that Paul is standing closer to the camera then Jay.
and jay isnt looking at paul
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Also note that Paul is standing closer to the camera then Jay.
and jay isnt looking at paul
and Melvin Anthony in the back is a big pussy.
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it doesn't matter anyways because Jay isn't being dwarfed
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and Jay end up having a better career than Paul
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I saw Dillet up closet at a Toronto show back in the mid 90's and when he walked past me I couldn't believe how enormous he was. Sure, his upperbody was mindblowing, but what really caught my eye was his legs and calves. The guy has some of the most impressive legs I've ever seen with calves the size of footballs. I think his calves are just as powerful as Yates and his legs are just phenominal.
I've always said this too....
IMO Dillet had the best legs of them all. Perfect combination of size and shape, just like the rest of him
Freakiest human to ever walk the planet
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I've always said this too....
IMO Dillet had the best legs of them all. Perfect combination of size and shape, just like the rest of him
Freakiest human to ever walk the planet
I have a cousin who is freakier.
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I have a cousin who is freakier.
;D ;D
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I've always said this too....
IMO Dillet had the best legs of them all. Perfect combination of size and shape, just like the rest of him
Freakiest human to ever walk the planet
Couldn't agree more
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please...... dillet was top 6 but never top 3 material... yates, nasser, flex, shauwne ray, levrone all beat him year in year out..
he was absolutly massive, but personified the lazy all drug bodybuilder, trained with weights that your average bb used to warm up with, and thats a fact... would probly feint watching yates or coleman train..
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Dorian never feared anyone on stage
Hi, Dorian ;D
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Its not only bodyparts that count its comming in the day of the contest stripped of all fat and knowing how to properly display your phsyique , these are aspects Paul never mastered and it cost him , he was a true freak with size & asethetics , he could have owned the sport for years.
Couldnt pose and NO back. Simple.