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From Jerry Brainum
I just learned that my good friend, Joe DeAngelis has died from the effects of kidney failure.Joe, who won the Mr.America title in 1991 among many others, has had some serious health problems in recent years, but this still was very shocking and unexpected sad news to me. Joe was a great guy, very intelligent, and I will miss the great conversations I had with him. He had just started a new business, and had high hopes. This is very tragic. Still another "Iron brother" is gone. This is the hardest part of growing older--losing great friends.What is particularly heartbreaking about this is that I had just told Joe to stay healthy, since he would one day be reunited with his two sons, whom he dearly loved more than anything, but could not see because his ex-wife had taken them with her to Denmark. He hadn't seen them in years, but I could tell when he talked about them how much it hurt him that he wasn't allowed any contact with them. Now they will never see their dad, and never know just how much he loved and cared for them. Rest in peace, Joe, I'll miss you, my friend.
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pip
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Sad.
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pip
Pin in peace?
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Wasnt he trying to make a comeback?
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Damn, I don't even think he was 50
RIP
btw Vince his first name is Joe not John
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Damn, I don't even think he was 50
RIP
btw Vince his first name is Joe not John
lmao
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From Jerry Brainum
I just learned that my good friend, Joe DeAngelis has died from the effects of kidney failure.Joe, who won the Mr.America title in 1991 among many others, has had some serious health problems in recent years, but this still was very shocking and unexpected sad news to me. Joe was a great guy, very intelligent, and I will miss the great conversations I had with him. He had just started a new business, and had high hopes. This is very tragic. Still another "Iron brother" is gone. This is the hardest part of growing older--losing great friends.What is particularly heartbreaking about this is that I had just told Joe to stay healthy, since he would one day be reunited with his two sons, whom he dearly loved more than anything, but could not see because his ex-wife had taken them with her to Denmark. He hadn't seen them in years, but I could tell when he talked about them how much it hurt him that he wasn't allowed any contact with them. Now they will never see their dad, and never know just how much he loved and cared for them. Rest in peace, Joe, I'll miss you, my friend.
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???
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RIP.
Kidney failure again, wow.
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At least we still have John Defendis
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Damn, I don't even think he was 50
RIP
btw Vince his first name is Joe not John
Ouch ;D
PIP
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rip
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PIP Beefyheavyweight
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Advil
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Like a true soldier, he paved the way for Chick and Cutler to don fatigues and arouse middle aged men. RIP Joe.
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I used to train at Joe's gym in NJ and he was one strong and pretty cool guy. He really was the bodybuilders bodybuilder. That said, he was also into his prescription meds and they made him batshit crazy over time. A friend of mine worked at that gym, and some of the stuff Joe said and did... Lets not go there and remember the good bits about him :)
PIP
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I used to train at Joe's gym in NJ and he was one strong and pretty cool guy. He really was the bodybuilders bodybuilder. That said, he was also into his prescription meds and they made him batshit crazy over time. A friend of mine worked at that gym, and some of the stuff Joe said and did... Lets not go there and remember the good bits about him :)
PIP
As the kidney failure gets worse and the toxins continue to build up in the body, seizures and mental confusion can result. My wife suffers from both these symptoms. Awhile back she introduced me to one of her dialysis technicians. I've known her for several months, ever since my wife started dialysis at DaVita. Additionally when your kidneys aren't working right, you metabolize medications much more slowly, which can cause them to build up in your system thus magnifying the effects of the drugs. It can be a challenge to find the right dosage in these situations.
Joe might have been acting "bat shit crazy" because toxins and meds were building up in his body.
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RIP.
Kidney failure again, wow.
Hereditary
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Damn, I don't even think he was 50
RIP
btw Vince his first name is Joe not John
We all forget our good friends names from time to time. Sometimes I call my friend Robert, "Christina."
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As the kidney failure gets worse and the toxins continue to build up in the body, seizures and mental confusion can result. My wife suffers from both these symptoms. Awhile back she introduced me to one of her dialysis technicians. I've known her for several months, ever since my wife started dialysis at DaVita. Additionally when your kidneys aren't working right, you metabolize medications much more slowly, which can cause them to build up in your system thus magnifying the effects of the drugs. It can be a challenge to find the right dosage in these situations.
Joe might have been acting "bat shit crazy" because toxins and meds were building up in his body.
no he had alcohol and prescription drug issues. fact. although im sure the toxins played a part. my guess is just massive steroid abuse particularly orals. he used to powerlift as well. I once saw him power cleaning 315 like it was nothing, growling like an animal. he was very motivating to train around. I remember I was front squatting once, and I was warming up with just 95 on the bar and he comes up to me and asks how high im going to go and im like ' ahhh maybe 205 for good reps' and he was like ok cool and walks away. I ended up doing 225 for a solid 10 deep barefoot reps. I wasn't exactly the strongest guy at that place by any means, but having him around always gave you a few pounds and a few reps.
I remember another time I was ATG squatting for reps and had just finished 20 with 225. Joe walks in and immediately I feel like I ought to use more weight so I load up 255 and crank out 10 really fast, then I see him in the mirror looking at me occasionally while talking to someone else and I get another 12 hard grinding reps just because he was watching and I knew it. Then I racked the weight and collapsed for a good 5 minutes on the floor ;D
Without a doubt the best workouts of my life were at that gym he ran. A real old school blood and guts type place with rusty dodgy equipment and heaps of 45 lb plates. Great gym though it went out of business and Joe ran off back to venice where I suppose he died trying to get a new gym going.. Too bad.
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no he had alcohol and prescription drug issues. fact. although im sure the toxins played a part. my guess is just massive steroid abuse particularly orals. he used to powerlift as well. I once saw him power cleaning 315 like it was nothing, growling like an animal. he was very motivating to train around. I remember I was front squatting once, and I was warming up with just 95 on the bar and he comes up to me and asks how high im going to go and im like ' ahhh maybe 205 for good reps' and he was like ok cool and walks away. I ended up doing 225 for a solid 10 deep barefoot reps. I wasn't exactly the strongest guy at that place by any means, but having him around always gave you a few pounds and a few reps.
I remember another time I was ATG squatting for reps and had just finished 20 with 225. Joe walks in and immediately I feel like I ought to use more weight so I load up 255 and crank out 10 really fast, then I see him in the mirror looking at me occasionally while talking to someone else and I get another 12 hard grinding reps just because he was watching and I knew it. Then I racked the weight and collapsed for a good 5 minutes on the floor ;D
Without a doubt the best workouts of my life were at that gym he ran. A real old school blood and guts type place with rusty dodgy equipment and heaps of 45 lb plates. Great gym though it went out of business and Joe ran off back to venice where I suppose he died trying to get a new gym going.. Too bad.
What a great post. REminds me when I was younger and had eyes on me from certain people. Those dudes would always give me a tap on the shoulder for work well done. Got chills thinking of this now. They would hold me down on the leg press until I was done, lol... Talk about wanting to show people you had what it takes!!!
Now, gotta dig deep for self motivation as none is ever found by seeing advanced people.
RIP Joe, will always remember his pics in old mm2k mags.
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Hereditary
Figured there's some sort of predisposition involved.
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http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=DeAngelis,+Joe
1987
USA Nationals - NABBA, Junior, 1st
World Championships - NABBA, Junior, 1st
1988
Mr North America - AAU, Medium, 1st
Mr North America - AAU, Overall Winner
1990
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Overall Winner
1991
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr America - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st
1993
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 15th
1996
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1997
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1999
North American Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 5th
USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 6th
2000
Nationals - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 11th
2002
Los Angeles Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 5th
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http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=DeAngelis,+Joe
1987
USA Nationals - NABBA, Junior, 1st
World Championships - NABBA, Junior, 1st
1988
Mr North America - AAU, Medium, 1st
Mr North America - AAU, Overall Winner
1990
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Overall Winner
1991
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr America - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st
1993
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 15th
1996
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1997
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1999
North American Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 5th
USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 6th
2000
Nationals - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 11th
2002
Los Angeles Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 5th
Hope it was worth it.
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I remember Chicherillo thought BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT was Joe DeAngelis when he wrote about Tom Prince.
RIP
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RIP
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it's all about being healthy and fit.......not like these middle age slobs slurping beer on the couch, shoving pizza down their throat.
whatever..... kill yourselves nobody gives a shit....."what's his name again?...i think it started with a j.
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it's all about being healthy and fit.......not like these middle age slobs slurping beer on the couch, shoving pizza down their throat.
whatever..... kill yourselves nobody gives a shit....."what's his name again?...i think it started with a j.
So you think it was the beer and pizza, eh? And the couch?
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So you think it was the beer and pizza, eh? And the couch?
that's the working theory.
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so did his kidneys fail because of the accumulating effect of a high protein intake over the years?
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so did his kidneys fail because of the accumulating effect of a high protein intake over the years?
sort of. they discovered he was born without kidneys at all do to some hereditary condition. they speculation that without his dedication to bodybuilding and fitness he wouldn't have even lived this long.
just another inspirational bodybuilding story.
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RIP :(
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http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=DeAngelis,+Joe
1987
USA Nationals - NABBA, Junior, 1st
World Championships - NABBA, Junior, 1st
1988
Mr North America - AAU, Medium, 1st
Mr North America - AAU, Overall Winner
1990
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Overall Winner
1991
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr America - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st
1993
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 15th
1996
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1997
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1999
North American Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 5th
USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 6th
2000
Nationals - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 11th
2002
Los Angeles Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 5th
I still have that 2001 iron man issue, wow time sure flies
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He never recovered from that Ninja-attack....oh no, wait. :-X that was another kidney guy.
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it has been reported that joe deangelis has died... rip..
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=571865.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=571865.0)
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RIP
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lmao
Even in reporting someone else's death Vince gets owned.
PIP Joe/John.
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He had just started a new business, and had high hopes.
Why has every retired, washed up former BB "just started a new business having high hopes". :D Most of them seem to "just have started a new business having high hopes" their entire lives.... :D
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1966-2015 kidney failure apparently is the early report...he had a training website.
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I was on the AAU Mr America judging panel in 1991.
I remember being very impressed with his dense muscularity as were most of the judges.
Joe had the rugged looking classic physique from what I consider the greatest period in bodybuilding.
He had a unique looking physique and despite barely knowing him, I never forgot him as a bodybuilder.
Joe was a friendly , out going man and was humble in victory.
He was always proud of being a bodybuilder and loved being known as Mr America.
RIP Joe, you will be missed.
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I remember Chicherillo thought BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT was Joe DeAngelis when he wrote about Tom Prince.
RIP
Not to worry- I know Beefyheavyweight and he's fine. He's crazy, in a good way, but he's fine.
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Joe trained at Golds Venice in the early & mid 1990's. I saw Joe and spoke with Joe on an almost daily basis. He was always met you with an easy smile and a friendly handshake.
Big strong man. Moved some heavy weights.
PIP JD.
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rip..great build lighter bweight when he won america,,got bigger and bigger and look changed,,stil la loss at a young age ...
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Sorry to hear Joe is gone.
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RIP big man.
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sort of. they discovered he was born without kidneys at all do to some hereditary condition. they speculation that without his dedication to bodybuilding and fitness he wouldn't have even lived this long.
just another inspirational bodybuilding story.
huh whaaaaat?
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huh whaaaaat?
Can't fool Marty, pal.
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A picture of joe hanged on the wall of my third gym, was a Universal poster if i remember well. Even on that picture i already noticed his nipples.
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A picture of joe hanged on the wall of my third gym, was a Universal poster if i remember well. Even on that picture i already noticed his nipples.
Because you have a nipple fetish???
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Because you have a nipple fetish???
No, but they look puffy dont they? Or rather, they looked puffy
Rip mr de angelis
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No, but they look puffy dont they? Or rather, they looked puffy
Rip mr de angelis
Actually, I hadn't noticed. Maybe folks who are worried about developing gynecomastia are more apt to see it on other fellows. Although anyone can have this due to hormonal imbalances, it seems to be much more prevalent with bodybuilders, likely because of AAS.
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Another bodybuilder from my generation has died. People were asking for the longest time, if all the anabolics are so bad for you then where are the bodies?
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Joe was a good guy, RIP
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As the kidney failure gets worse and the toxins continue to build up in the body, seizures and mental confusion can result. My wife suffers from both these symptoms. Awhile back she introduced me to one of her dialysis technicians. I've known her for several months, ever since my wife started dialysis at DaVita. Additionally when your kidneys aren't working right, you metabolize medications much more slowly, which can cause them to build up in your system thus magnifying the effects of the drugs. It can be a challenge to find the right dosage in these situations.
Joe might have been acting "bat shit crazy" because toxins and meds were building up in his body.
That is terrible to hear about your wife. Maybe you have explained before - but I didnt know. I can't imagine the pain you both must feel. I will keep both of you in thoughts and prayers.
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Is it true? If so, Doom disapproves of his passing! :'(
How old was he?
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If only this had been made a sticky for days already
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Bah!
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Really?!
Dude wasn't old, if true.
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Really?!
Dude wasn't old, if true.
Right around 49 years old (my age)...
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Right around 49 years old (my age)...
Hell, I'm 45.
This is sad news.
Didn't know Joe but the guy's been around the scene forever. :(
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So much gear/booze/medicine/recreational drugs for so many years and then pass away at age 49, well...it's still young imo...
www.joedeangelis.com
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So much gear/booze/medicine/recreational drugs for so many years and then pass away at age 49, well...it's still young imo...
www.joedeangelis.com
49 seems so young to me now. :'(
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49 seems so young to me now. :'(
It is amazing how our perspective on what is old changes as we age, isn't it. When I was 20 I could not have imagined myself at 70, and yet, here I am 70 and thinking 80 is old. What will happen if I make it to 80?
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Any word on what caused the kidneys to fail?
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It is amazing how our perspective on what is old changes as we age, isn't it. When I was 20 I could not have imagined myself at 70, and yet, here I am 70 and thinking 80 is old. What will happen if I make it to 80?
So very true. Mom (73) went on a cruise a few months ago. When she came back, I asked her how the cruise was and she complained that there were "too many old people" on the cruise and said she didn't want to be on a ship like that again. I bit my lip and didn't react. :-X
Back to Joe; 49 is crazy young to be exiting life. And from kidneys gone bad? I anyone still going to deny there is a link between (long term) cycles and bad kidneys and heart trouble? :'(
gay note: for more than a few minutes, Joe was a total hottie; a tier 3 sexy MF. Bay likey! :P
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sort of. they discovered he was born without kidneys at all do to some hereditary condition. they speculation that without his dedication to bodybuilding and fitness he wouldn't have even lived this long.
just another inspirational bodybuilding story.
läl
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It is amazing how our perspective on what is old changes as we age, isn't it. When I was 20 I could not have imagined myself at 70, and yet, here I am 70 and thinking 80 is old. What will happen if I make it to 80?
Ha, yes that very true.
Also we realise how short our time on this planet is.
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I still have that 2001 iron man issue, wow time sure flies
It's getting bad for me.
It was 24 yrs since I judged Joe at the America and 20 years since I last competed.
Unless I stop and really think , I imagine it was just a few years ago.
When I run into anyone from my era , I'm shocked at how different they can look now.
Then I realize I last saw them over 20 yrs ago. Damn :o
Ya know, it "seems" like only 2-3 years ago when I was judging that Mr America.
Blows my mind that he's now gone and all those years have passed.
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Any word on what caused the kidneys to fail?
Either Advil or Hereditary Condition !!! :-X
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I remember seeing a pic in MM when he was training with Cormier and i thought 'That's what i want to end up looking like'.
He looked strong and that's an awesome look.
PED's might be bad but if he was mixing with heaps of other drugs then that's what will get you more. Michael Jackson was 50 how much gear did he take? But he took plenty of Prescription drugs and wasn't exactly overweight.
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I remember seeing a pic in MM when he was training with Cormier and i thought 'That's what i want to end up looking like'.
He looked strong and that's an awesome look.
-'PED's might be bad but if he was mixing with heaps of other drugs then that's what will get you more. Michael Jackson was 50 how much gear did he take? But he took plenty of Prescription drugs and wasn't exactly overweight.'-
You make some good points regarding PED's
& other drugs.
Often this is overlooked.
Just blame it on Gear.
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It is amazing how our perspective on what is old changes as we age, isn't it. When I was 20 I could not have imagined myself at 70, and yet, here I am 70 and thinking 80 is old. What will happen if I make it to 80?
Lost my wife due to kidney failure (she also was battling breast cancer) in her 50s. Lost two very close friends in their late 50s same thing. None ever used AAS or PEDs. Note! All my Docs have told me MINIMAL Advil usage if at all.
I just came back from Walmart. F me!! So many old pfucks plodding around in slow mo in the aisles. Shhhh (I'm 75)
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This isn't the first time, is it? The bodybuilder/kidney thing, I mean.
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I remember seeing a pic in MM when he was training with Cormier and i thought 'That's what i want to end up looking like'.
He looked strong and that's an awesome look.
PED's might be bad but if he was mixing with heaps of other drugs then that's what will get you more. Michael Jackson was 50 how much gear did he take? But he took plenty of Prescription drugs and wasn't exactly overweight.
PED's increase muscle mass ---> so you can lift much larger weights ---> lots more stress and risks for your joints --> chronic pain ---> painkillers ---> much bigger risk for kidneys and such
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This isn't the first time, is it? The bodybuilder/kidney thing, I mean.
Happens way too often to be coincidence. Guys from the 60s, 70s, and 80s were a lot smaller, but they seemed to last a lot longer in life. What the guys are taking today, and the size it gives, is the obvious difference. Dead at 49? Not worth it; rather be smaller and live thirty more years. Bah!
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Happens way too often to be coincidence. Guys from the 60s, 70s, and 80s were a lot smaller, but they seemed to last a lot longer in life. What the guys are taking today, and the size it gives, is the obvious difference. Dead at 49? Not worth it; rather be smaller and live thirty more years. Bah!
Thought for sure they were all dying of congenital premature old age.
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RIP
Same age as me (49).
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RIP Beefyheavyweight
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RIP Beefyheavyweight
:o is it.???
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PED's increase muscle mass ---> so you can lift much larger weights ---> lots more stress and risks for your joints --> chronic pain ---> painkillers ---> much bigger risk for kidneys and such
I've done Deads for reps over 6 and a half plates a side and squats for reps over 5 and a half. Maybe i was young but i wasn't in any more pain doing them. I never took painkillers. If someone's going to take rec drugs like painkillers that's because of them not because of heavy weights.
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RIP Beefyheavyweight
wtf?
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He apparently used very similar compounds/dosages to what Gaspari did. And Gaspari is fine. So I think the painkillers and alcohol probably had a lot to do with it.
Steroids are fine but you need to keep the rest of your lifestyle in check.
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i remeber seeing pics of him in the old muscle mag pics... rip
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What a great post. REminds me when I was younger and had eyes on me from certain people. Those dudes would always give me a tap on the shoulder for work well done. Got chills thinking of this now. They would hold me down on the leg press until I was done, lol... Talk about wanting to show people you had what it takes!!!
Now, gotta dig deep for self motivation as none is ever found by seeing advanced people.
RIP Joe, will always remember his pics in old mm2k mags.
This is actually called grooming, i'm glad you are safe and well.
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These guys aren't taking 100% pharma gear. Their using powders from China with God knows what kind of fillers in it.
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The abdominal snowman is 100% correct. I now have Secondary FSGS due to gear that was tainted with heavy metals. What is worse is that the supplier knew the gear was tainted and sold it to a number of people anyway. Anyone who has Trojan Labs gear would be wise to toss that crap in the garbage.
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http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=DeAngelis,+Joe
1987
USA Nationals - NABBA, Junior, 1st
World Championships - NABBA, Junior, 1st
1988
Mr North America - AAU, Medium, 1st
Mr North America - AAU, Overall Winner
1990
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr USA - AAU, Overall Winner
1991
Mr America - AAU, Medium-Tall, 1st
Mr America - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st
1993
Nationals - NPC, HeavyWeight, 15th
1996
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1997
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
1999
North American Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 5th
USA Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 6th
2000
Nationals - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 11th
2002
Los Angeles Championships - NPC, Super-HeavyWeight, 5th
I saw him win some contest here in L.A. around 1999-2000, somewhere around in there. I could have sworn it was the Excalibur. I remember he won a sword.
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I saw him win some contest here in L.A. around 1999-2000, somewhere around in there. I could have sworn it was the Excalibur. I remember he won a sword.
YOU LOOK AT THAT CONTEST HISTORY AND YOU HAVE 2 ORGINIZATIONS AAU/NABBA/NPC,,HE DOES GREAT IN AAU AND SO/SO IN NPC ,NOW HE DID GET QUITE LARGER SIZE WISE WHEN HE WAS AN NPC BBER,,BUT WHO WAS HIS BEST COMPETITION OVERALL AAU/NPC..
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As the kidney failure gets worse and the toxins continue to build up in the body, seizures and mental confusion can result. My wife suffers from both these symptoms. Awhile back she introduced me to one of her dialysis technicians. I've known her for several months, ever since my wife started dialysis at DaVita. Additionally when your kidneys aren't working right, you metabolize medications much more slowly, which can cause them to build up in your system thus magnifying the effects of the drugs. It can be a challenge to find the right dosage in these situations.
what you describe sounds like torture. I doubt anyone in their right mind would want to go thru that. Is she hospitalized and kept alive against her will?