Ok, I Gave Him a Chance

[Method101]

If they dont want to murder a child keep their legs closed.

what if they are raped you stupid fuck.
But yea i agree women are fucking sluts and that's the reason why they get pregnant for the most part but it still dosen't change the fact that these babies would be better off not even being born.

[webcake]

Coach you are one stupid fucking ####.

If these women didn't have abortions they would just end up having to leech atleast $200,000 of taxpayers money to bring up the child from 0-16. And if the women are prepared to have an abortion it dosen't say much for the kind of upbringing the child would be getting anyway so it's better that they are never brought into the world.

What if a woman is raped, you think she should be forced to have a baby? it's her fucking body you stupid ####, women should 100% have the right to do what they want with it untill it becomes dangerous to their health to have an abortion.

But you gotta remember man.....that's "playing god" 

Hey Coach, taking steroids is playing God.....i guess you are going to hell.

[Method101]

But you gotta remember man.....that's "playing god" 

Hey Coach, taking steroids is playing God.....i guess you are going to hell.

[bigdumbbell]

God is against divorce.  Are you against God, The Roach?

[CalvinH]

If only Coach's mom believed in abortion

[tleilaxutank]

 I prefer this one...

[Sir Humphrey]

If only Coach's mom believed in abortion

I bet every time she hears him speak, she thinks: "Fuck! I should have fuckin' swallowed!"

Seriously, it must hurt having to go through life with such a badly damaged brain. Perhaps Joe wears a helmet when he leaves the house?

[Hedgehog]

But at this rate only the 3rd day in office and he's proven to be not only living up to being the biggest liberal in congress, but possibly the biggest lib in presidential history. Not only that, he's signed a death warrant for millions of babies. Screw him.



President Obama on Friday lifted a ban on federal funding for international groups that promote or perform abortions, reversing a policy of his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Obama signed the executive order one day after the 36th anniversary of the landmark Roe v. Wade Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion in all 50 states.

Liberal groups welcomed the decision while abortion rights foes criticized the president, who was long expected to make this move during his first week in office.

The so-called Mexico City policy requires any non-governmental organization to agree before receiving U.S. funds that they will "neither perform nor actively promote abortion as a method of family planning in other nations."

It is also known as the "global gag rule," because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy.

The policy was first instituted by President Ronald Reagan in 1984 and continued by President George H.W. Bush. The policy was reversed by President Bill Clinton in 1993, and re-instated by President George W. Bush in 2001.

Both Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who will oversee foreign aid, had promised to do away with the gag rule during the presidential campaign. Clinton is to visit the U.S. Agency for International Development, through which much U.S. foreign aid is disbursed, later on Friday.

Organizations that had pressed Obama to make the abortion-ban change were jubilant.

"Women's health has been severely impacted by the cutoff of assistance. "President Obama's actions will help reduce the number of unintended pregnancies, abortions and women dying from high-risk pregnancies because they don't have access to family planning," said Tod Preston, a spokesman for Population Action International, an advocacy group.

Anti-abortion groups criticized the move.

"President Obama not long ago told the American people that he would support policies to reduce abortions, but today he is effectively guaranteeing more abortions by funding groups that promote abortion as a method of population control," said Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee.

Obama has spent his first days in office systematically signing executive orders reversing Bush administration policies on issues ranging from foreign policy to government operations. On Thursday, he signed three executive orders to rein in secretive U.S. counterterror policies and end harsh interrogations.

 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/23/obama-lift-ban-overseas-abortion-funding/

When did you give Obama "a chance"?

[The_Leafy_Bug]

I am concerned about a lot of "shit"  it is good to have beliefs and opinions and stand up for what you believe in.  Its kind of what America is all about.

No honey, "beliefs" are what have brought this country down in a burning flame this past 8 years. When you say belief you are suggesting taking something as fact without evidence. If you believe there is an invisible man and you stand up for him because you "believe" it is wrong then you are standing up for a useless cause.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

That's fine.

I'm more talking about the hardcore christians who vote for people based solely on their opinions/views on abortions.

Like i said, there are far more relevant things that the average person should be concerned about...

Like the Israelites and funding them to slaughter more Palestinians so we can bring on revelations!!! 

[Hedgehog]

What amazes me with so many people is you are faced with so much shit that can affect all of you, yet you are concerned about abortions?!

Religion and politics don't mix.

Very good point.

What Karl Rove managed to do was to convince a large amount of the working class that moral issues were more important than economy, foreign policy, employment and health care.

Ie, when George W Bush won it was important that abortion was made illegal, gun laws were kept liberal and that schools were allowed to teach that the earth is 6 000 years old.

More so than that the economy were doing good.

How many times were the national economy an issue when Bush ran for re-election?

Karl Rove managed to set the issues brilliant.



The question is whether those moral issues really are more important than the economy of a nation, employment numbers, level of education, infrastructure, et al.

Looking at the mess in New Orleans after Katrina and how roads and bridges are falling apart shows that perhaps infrastructure is important.

And other issues are as well.

Oil dependancy?

[Ursus]

goudy, what would your opinion be if your mother was raped and you learned that she became pregnant?

if you think it is a sin to abort.......would it be a sin to force your mother to have a child? would your resentment toward your "1/2" sibling be a sin? would the fact that your mother would have to be reminded of that rape every time she looked at her child be fair?

some things arent always black and white.......

we know you live on an island, but you cant be that nieve

The baby is not the perpatrator. It is merely the consequence of the horrific act. i do agree though. not everything black and white i am not bright enough or in any position to gie a definative answer on this

[Mark Kerr]

Obama is really really worry about what you think Coach  

You're right.

However, Obama should be worried about the 59 million people that didn't vote for him.

[Ursus]

Also yes the chances of the woman getting raped and getting pregnant is so so slim.

If there is a chance the woman will die then yes have anb abortion.

This rape scenario is always tossed up but actually very rarely happens.

Also, when you have sex you know the possible consequences. Its just that the baby is the greatest consequence you can imagine.

[OzmO]

3 days and every alarmist bitch is barfing.

It must real fvcked to be a true conservative these huh?  First you get 8 years of the lib Clinton who actually gave us a surplus dispelling much of  your lame stereotypes of libs, then you get 8 years of BUSH who pretty much abused your bong hole and turned out be one of the founding fathers of American socialism, then you get the MOST LIBERAL president ever elected.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHA

how do you feel inside?  Warm and fuzzy?   

[The Coach]

Yea.... it is soo common sense it is above all of us and you are the only smart guy here  . Sex takes two. Why are you putting all the blame and responsibility on the woman? Why are you calling him a dumb fuck? At least he wasn't a big enough of a moron to get addicted to coke and speed. Hell, you have been married 4 times, are a self admitted ex drug addict, and have been abusive to one of your ex wives correct? Looks like you are the idiot.

Holy shit, are you really that stupid that you can't even stay on the subject? All I've read out of your skinny adolecent ass is shot's against me with nothing to contribute. Take your Arkansas inbred ass to another board. Punk.

[Mons Venus]

Coach married 4 times? 

[Mons Venus]

First you get 8 years of the lib Clinton who actually gave us a surplus dispelling much of  your lame stereotypes of libs, then you get 8 years of BUSH who pretty much abused your bong hole and turned out be one of the founding fathers of American socialism,

Coach this post is 4 U!

[Sir Humphrey]

Holy shit, are you really that stupid that you can't even stay on the subject? All I've read out of your skinny adolecent ass is shot's against me with nothing to contribute. Take your Arkansas inbred ass to another board. Punk.

Every time you speak, your mom slaps her forehead and wishes she had swallowed instead. What an enormous favour she would have done mankind...

[scooter]

Mother is raped and by having the baby she has a 20% chance to live? This isn't a good enough reason for you? Why should someone have to lose a mother/ wife/ sister/ friend/ etc because they were raped and a law isn't flexible. This isn't a black and white area.

you are exactly right there is no black and white when it comes to abortion but I think that there should be tougher laws when it comes to abortion. Personally I am against. There are too many contraceptives out there right now for someone to be stupid and use abortion as birth control. When a woman and man make a choice to have sex without any protection then they should have to live with those choices, I am not against the morning after pill. And by the way I am not a crazy Christian either I am an Atheist so this has nothing to do with religion or any thing like that. My fiance got pregnant I was 21 and she was 22 we have a great son now I was way to young for a kid but we manage. I dont think that is should be outlawed but I do think that there should be tougher enforcement on what is allowed and what is not.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

Holy shit, are you really that stupid that you can't even stay on the subject? All I've read out of your skinny adolecent ass is shot's against me with nothing to contribute. Take your Arkansas inbred ass to another board. Punk.

Watch your mouth peck!

Sadly this "inbred Arkansan" is better educated than you.

[IFBBwannaB]

Like the Israelites and funding them to slaughter more Palestinians so we can bring on revelations!!! 

So Israelis are criminals yet, Iran and Hamas who admit to target civilian targets as their primary targets are saints?

You are a moron, seriously.

[The_Leafy_Bug]

So Israelis are criminals yet, Iran and Hamas who admit to target civilian targets as their primary targets are saints?

You are a moron, seriously.

If you actually knew and understood the history of the Palestinian/ Israeli conflict you would know how idiotic you sound. Both sides have dropped low but remember it was the British and Jews who were the cause of this. I never said they were saints. You put those words in my mouth. Use your fucking brain and not your emotions. You might actually be right for once.

[disco_stu]

No honey, "beliefs" are what have brought this country down in a burning flame this past 8 years. When you say belief you are suggesting taking something as fact without evidence. If you believe there is an invisible man and you stand up for him because you "believe" it is wrong then you are standing up for a useless cause.

excellent, and very accurate post. kudos!..

as an outsider, we've been watching in amazement as the US imploded... now's the time to challenge all of these "rights" that are more trouble than they were originally intended, or thought to result in.

time to scale them back and not hang on the literal interpretation and also to give up just some little itty bitty pieces of the liberty that has created the mess.

its not really a big ask..it is however a mature, responsible, logical and rational way forward- thats why i think its going to be tough for the US to drag itself back.

sorry to be cynical but we do know that at least half the population are below average intelligence, its almost like a slow motion train wreck....

[disco_stu]

you are exactly right there is no black and white when it comes to abortion but I think that there should be tougher laws when it comes to abortion. Personally I am against. There are too many contraceptives out there right now for someone to be stupid and use abortion as birth control. When a woman and man make a choice to have sex without any protection then they should have to live with those choices, I am not against the morning after pill. And by the way I am not a crazy Christian either I am an Atheist so this has nothing to do with religion or any thing like that. My fiance got pregnant I was 21 and she was 22 we have a great son now I was way to young for a kid but we manage. I dont think that is should be outlawed but I do think that there should be tougher enforcement on what is allowed and what is not.

hang on..you support the morning after pill, but not abortion?...

and you think that abortion is used as birth control?

and retribution for a passionate act is to bring up a child until it is an adult?


Do we see the logic here?..it seems to be a repeating theme throughout this thread.

Whilst we have the righteous anti abortionists, they have zero answers for the consequences "forcing" other people's opinions on others will have to society. The probability that this practice would initiate itself through generations of unloved children is much higher than that of the pro rights sociology.

So how do you want it?...you want a responsible society, and to force through the consequences of irresponsible acts?...

rofl.

this is hilarious. its even funnier that some people just cant think beyond one concept.

i suppose its scary.