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I personally think that after the Palin-boom cooled off Mccain is really struggling to hold onto voters. The criticism against him is becoming more powerful for each day and the american people are starting to see through his dishonest campaign. I think it's just a slippery slope from here and oh boy, Sara Palin is sure helping out.
The polls now show 229-174 (pollster.com) in Obama's favor. What really could possibly take down Obama at this stage? He has been out there for quite a while and both Hillary and Mccain just can't make him look bad anymore. Some might say that the election is still a toss up, but I think it's quite apparent that the Mccain camp is starting to run out of fuel with still over a month to go. Also most polls have Obama winning the recent debate which was supposed to be a easy victory for Mccain. What gives?
What could turn it around for Mccain at this point? Do you think he has any aces left up his sleeve?
I think the VP debate is gonna end it for the Mccain/Palin ticket.
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I think poles in this race are even more skewed because so many people are afraid of bieng deemed racist. What Obama has going against him is he is a relatively new face in a time of uncertainty and Democrats have both houses of goverment.
Traditionally America doesnt like to have a particular party have all branches of goverment.
Am I saying its not possible for Obama to win? not at all. he could easily win, I just dont things the numbers we are seeing are as accurate as most people think.
McCain needs to connect with people and show he cares and has a plan to put things on the right track. He needs to show he will be a different leader than bush and explain his positions.
Also, Palin needs to man up and do her part by proving that she didnt get to be Governor by accident. She has leadership skills and valuable leadership assets.
the question is can McCain and Palin pull these things off? From what I am seeing, I just dont know... time will tell.
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I personally think that after the Palin-boom cooled off Mccain is really struggling to hold onto voters. The criticism against him is becoming more powerful for each day and the american people are starting to see through his dishonest campaign. I think it's just a slippery slope from here and oh boy, Sara Palin is sure helping out.
The polls now show 229-174 (pollster.com) in Obama's favor. What really could possibly take down Obama at this stage? He has been out there for quite a while and both Hillary and Mccain just can't make him look bad anymore. Some might say that the election is still a toss up, but I think it's quite apparent that the Mccain camp is starting to run out of fuel with still over a month to go. Also most polls have Obama winning the recent debate which was supposed to be a easy victory for Mccain. What gives?
What could turn it around for Mccain at this point? Do you think he has any aces left up his sleeve?
I think the VP debate is gonna end it for the Mccain/Palin ticket.
Diebold
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I think poles in this race are even more skewed because so many people are afraid of bieng deemed racist. What Obama has going against him is he is a relatively new face in a time of uncertainty and Democrats have both houses of goverment.
Traditionally America doesnt like to have a particular party have all branches of goverment.
Am I saying its not possible for Obama to win? not at all. he could easily win, I just dont things the numbers we are seeing are as accurate as most people think.
McCain needs to connect with people and show he cares and has a plan to put things on the right track. He needs to show he will be a different leader than bush and explain his positions.
Something he has thus far proven himself unable to do. Obama on the other hand has shown he's got the right stuff.
Also, Palin needs to man up and do her part by proving that she didnt get to be Governor by accident.
But she didn't get there by accident. The witch hunter from Kenya put her in the governors mansion... remember?
She has leadership skills and valuable leadership assets.
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/rotflmao.gif)
Megalomania is not leadership, and is something to be avoided.
the question is can McCain and Palin pull these things off? From what I am seeing, I just dont know... time will tell.
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/crystalball.jpg)
If THAT's the question, my handy dandy crystal ball says NO,
...not without a little voter fraud to help them along.
If the question is: Will American's be paralyzed by fear of a young whipper snapper with the funny sounding name and be prompted by the familiarity of the old worn shoe. You know it's worn & ratty, and needs to be replaced, ...but you're afraid new ones might give you callouses, ...then he stands a slight chance.
Personally, I hope not. Cause that would mean all those sarcastic, rude and sardonic comments whispered about Americans would be true. And when that becomes an undeniable and incontrovertable truth for the rest of the world, ...there's going to be a shitstorm in all areas. Who could ever take you seriously?
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Something he has thus far proven himself unable to do. Obama on the other hand has shown he's got the right stuff.
But she didn't get there by accident. The witch hunter from Kenya put her in the governors mansion... remember?
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/rotflmao.gif)
Megalomania is not leadership, and is something to be avoided.
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/crystalball.jpg)
If THAT's the question, my handy dandy crystal ball says NO,
...not without a little voter fraud to help them along.
If the question is: Will American's be paralyzed by fear of a young whipper snapper with the funny sounding name and be prompted by the familiarity of the old worn shoe. You know it's worn & ratty, and needs to be replaced, ...but you're afraid new ones might give you callouses, ...then he stands a slight chance.
Personally, I hope not. Cause that would mean all those sarcastic, rude and sardonic comments whispered about Americans would be true. And when that becomes an undeniable and incontrovertable truth for the rest of the world, ...there's going to be a shitstorm in all areas. Who could ever take you seriously?
I honestly could give a rats ass What the world thinks of Americans. I want whats best for our country. I want a leader who doesnt think Americans are too stupid to know what to do with their money. I want a leader who will defend our nation and its interests and who actually understands the world around us and the threats we face.
I want a leader who will keep our market free and reform healthcare without trading our system in for another broken ass goverment program. I want a Leader who will respect states rights and not bring in justices who legistlate from the bench.
Neither of these Canidates are that leader unfortunetly, but Obama is quite a bit farther away.
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I honestly could give a rats ass What the world thinks of Americans. I want whats best for our country. I want a leader who doesnt think Americans are too stupid to know what to do with their money. I want a leader who will defend our nation and its interests and who actually understands the world around us and the threats we face.
I want a leader who will keep our market free and reform healthcare without trading our system in for another broken ass goverment program. I want a Leader who will respect states rights and not bring in justices who legistlate from the bench.
Neither of these Canidates are that leader unfortunetly, but Obama is quite a bit farther away.
They both suck hard, but good luck getting a black retard to admit that. They'll follow Obama to the gates of hell and back. The moron is acting like Obama is going to turn lead into gold. In reality, he'll probably be just as shitty as McCain.
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Something he has thus far proven himself unable to do. Obama on the other hand has shown he's got the right skin color.
Fixed.
I want a leader who will defend our nation and its interests and who actually understands the world around us and the threats we face.
He will defend it by disarming us and talking to terrorists!
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Survey says...
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I honestly could give a rats ass What the world thinks of Americans.
What you fail to understand... is that what the world thinks of America has to a large part been what has sustained America around the world.
I want whats best for our country. I want a leader who doesnt think Americans are too stupid to know what to do with their money. I want a leader who will defend our nation and its interests and who actually understands the world around us and the threats we face.
I want a leader who will keep our market free and reform healthcare without trading our system in for another broken ass goverment program. I want a Leader who will respect states rights and not bring in justices who legistlate from the bench.
no one is disputing what you want. Alot of people... the world over. want that for America as well
Neither of these Canidates are that leader unfortunetly, but Obama is quite a bit farther away.
It may possibly be true that neither candidate is that leader, ...however, ...one thing we are ALL in agreement on is that McCain is NOT that leader. You're going to be stuck with one of them, ...and with the world to a larger degree believing that Obama IS that leader, ...world opinion DOES matter. Obama's ability to elicit co-operation abroad will have a significantly more favourable outcome for America's fortunes.
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I think poles in this race are even more skewed because so many people are afraid of bieng deemed racist.
This is a bold statment I'm sure, but I think we're past the white guilt for the most part. White guilt was huge in the 90's, hollywood rode it to the max in that time peroid. I'm not saying it's all gone but I think the peak is past bigtime. I really believe most people have thought it all out and are pretty comfortable in where they stand and why--not counting the perpetual dipshits.
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The moron is acting like Obama is going to turn lead into gold. In reality, he'll probably be just as shitty as McCain.
He may not be able to turn lead into gold, ...but he's a helluva lot better than the 3 Republican clowns running for the job. Those morons Bush/McCain/Palin took America's golden economy, and turned the fvcker into lead.
How's the economy soaring for you these days?
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This is a bold statment I'm sure, but I think we're past the white guilt for the most part. White guilt was huge in the 90's, hollywood rode it to the max in that time peroid. I'm not saying it's all gone but I think the peak is past bigtime. I really believe most people have thought it all out and are pretty comfortable in where they stand and why--not counting the perpetual dipshits.
Other than the sheet wearing crowd, ...the biggest colour the American people are concerned with these days is green
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Yep:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=238066.0
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It will be a Land Slide. Regardless of what people think about Race, McCain is really dangerous and his Pick of Palin has really ended his chances.
People who get called from Pollsters are people who have home phones. The younger generation who is 3/4ths for Obama dont have home phones. I havent had a phone home in 5 years, nor does 1 person i know.
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It will be a Land Slide. Regardless of what people think about Race, McCain is really dangerous and his Pick of Palin has really ended his chances.
People who get called from Pollsters are people who have home phones. The younger generation who is 3/4ths for Obama dont have home phones. I havent had a phone home in 5 years, nor does 1 person i know.
yea, but they said the same shit during the 2004 race. I hope you're right.
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According to these guys, McCain's chances are looking extremely good.
Considering how far down he was in the primaries, ...only to have a stunning comeback, ...who knows (http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/em/shrug.gif)
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you see that above map showing florida in the blue... It better be, yea, you fuckers owe us :D
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you see that above map showing florida in the blue... It better be, yea, you fuckers owe us :D
Hopefully, The Great Schlep (http://www.thegreatschlep.com) will have a positive effect. :D
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yea, but they said the same shit during the 2004 race. I hope you're right.
I think with Obama its a lot different than Kerry, from his grass routes campaign, his blogs, his weekly Ipod addresses he did for years....the younger generation 22-30 are motivated....
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you see that above map showing florida in the blue... It better be, yea, you fuckers owe us :D
Obama leads florida by 3 points today.
(PPP)
If he wins florida, or NC, it's no contest.
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Obama leads florida by 3 points today.
(PPP)
If he wins florida, or NC, it's no contest.
240, you seriously have no fear of election fraud? Electronic voting? Diebold (they still exist, they just changed their name)?
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240, you seriously have no fear of election fraud? Electronic voting? Diebold (they still exist, they just changed their name)?
they can cheat 1%. They cannot cheat 5%.
I think unless palin has an outstanding thursday debate and mccain personally solves this bailout crisis, we're looking at a scenario where Obama wins with 330 electoral votes.
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they can cheat 1%. They cannot cheat 5%.
I think unless palin has an outstanding thursday debate and mccain personally solves this bailout crisis, we're looking at a scenario where Obama wins with 330 electoral votes.
All they need is 1%. 1% of the total votes but concentrated in a few key states is actually a LOT.
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All they need is 1%. 1% of the total votes but concentrated in a few key states is actually a LOT.
no, it needs to be close in the area to steel it. Exit polls will spoil their theft if it's not close.
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I agree with you buff.
If things remain how they are now, I believe Obama will likely win. I'm discouraged with both choices.
I think there is still a lot of 'white guilt' out there and I think there are a lot of white Americans who would like to see a good black American leader. Paricularly women, but its not fair to generalize. I remember feeling really bad in school when we learned about the history of slavery and blacks prior to 1960s...and that seemed to be the general feeling in the whole class and led by the teachers. They spent a lot of time on slavery from what I remember. Then in college, several of the courses and teaching was similar. Anyway, the # of whites who still harbor some degree of guilt likely outweigh ignorant racist whites, though they are out there too.
I try to vote for the most qualified person regardless of race or gender but admit I would be a little more excited to elected a black leader...but one who put country way before race....and who had generally moderate or conservative principles.
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no, it needs to be close in the area to steel it. Exit polls will spoil their theft if it's not close.
Uh...no. In the last election, exit polls matched up with all the voting areas except where there was electronic voting. In those areas, the actual results were skewed toward bush despite him losing the exit polls. And how many changes have been made since then? zero.