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I'm curious what the opinions will be.
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I'm curious what the opinions will be.
When your of the right age of responsibility (no more hog wild partying, clubbing, going on single vacations to party places where cheating can take place, etc)
When you are finacially stable
When you are job secure
When you know for a fact that you truly love that person and you know that you want to wake up next to that person for the rest of your life.
If you have any doughts....DON'T do it.
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Good Qeustion...
I haven't reached that point yet so I guess I don't really know. I have been propsoed to twice and have declined both times for numerous reasons, all of which I am not sure have any real weight to them.
I would like to hear Laura's and Mike's opinions on this one. Those two are so very much in love, live together and "have their ducks in a row" makes me curious as why not. I am not saying they should or shouldn't get married obviously that is their choice, but I am allowed to be curious.
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When the rabbit dies, ...and her daddy's shotgun is pointed at your gonads... it's time to say 'I do'. ;D
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When the rabbit dies, ...and her daddy's shotgun is pointed at your gonads... it's time to say 'I do'. ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I almost spat my coffee reading that one. Speaking of which, Jag...here comes my Tim Horton's double double right now....oh how I love it when people bring me coffees ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I almost spat my coffee reading that one. Speaking of which, Jag...here comes my Tim Horton's double double right now....oh how I love it when people bring me coffees ;D
I'll be here til Friday... I recommend the pasta prima vera... and don't forget to tip your waitor or waitress. :D
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When your of the right age of responsibility (no more hog wild partying, clubbing, going on single vacations to party places where cheating can take place, etc)
When you are finacially stable
When you are job secure
When you know for a fact that you truly love that person and you know that you want to wake up next to that person for the rest of your life.
If you have any doughts....DON'T do it.
...bastard stole my answer ;D
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I think maybe when you want to have kids.
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When your of the right age of responsibility (no more hog wild partying, clubbing, going on single vacations to party places where cheating can take place, etc)
When you are finacially stable
When you are job secure
When you know for a fact that you truly love that person and you know that you want to wake up next to that person for the rest of your life.
If you have any doughts....DON'T do it.
Great answer. I would add to that if you would hang out with the person regardless if you were having sex or not and still want to be with them. Never underestimate someone that can always make you laugh or have good conversations with.
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When your of the right age of responsibility (no more hog wild partying, clubbing, going on single vacations to party places where cheating can take place, etc)
When you are finacially stable
When you are job secure
When you know for a fact that you truly love that person and you know that you want to wake up next to that person for the rest of your life.
If you have any doughts....DON'T do it.
Great answer. I would add to that if you would hang out with the person regardless if you were having sex or not and still want to be with them. Never underestimate someone that can always make you laugh or have good conversations with.
These are good.
And someone you trust.
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These are good.
And someone you trust.
Trust....forgot about that one. Very important. See what happens when you try to work and play at the same time, Stella :)
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Not to take away from DrKaje's original question but my question is why do we have to get married (the signing of papers and such) in the first place?
I have known many couples that were in long term relationships (living together for 15+ years) and they had great relationships until they got married and everyone of them are divorced today. They all said marriage seemed to put stresses on the relationship that were not there prior to the "legal union".
My sig other and I are currently discussing whether to marry or not to marry since we are both individually secure financially! We don't need vows to be commited and/or true to one another so the question for us is why get married not when?
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They all said marriage seemed to put stresses on the relationship that were not there prior to the "legal union".
Hustle Man, do you think that just being legally married really put "stresses" on the marriage that were not there prior? What kind of stresses?
Do you think it's possible that before they married they had begun to struggle in their relationship and thought marrying would help in some way and then were surprised/disappointed when it didn't?
My sig other and I are currently discussing whether to marry or not to marry since we are both individually secure financially! We don't need vows to be commited and/or true to one another so the question for us is why get married not when?
We were also both individually fine financially. I believe our main reason for marrying was that we believed/believe it was what God wanted us to do.
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You just know it is right.
There are no rules for love and that "feeling"
I had quite a few girlfriends before my wife, I even moved in with two of them.
But when ever I thought of marriage I felt a since of "DREAD"!!!!
With my wife I just knew, we had been dating for 10 days when I popped the question and she said yes :D
6 Months later we where married.
We are married 13 years already now with two savages aged 12 and 10 ;)
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You just know it is right.
There are no rules for love and that "feeling"
I had quite a few girlfriends before my wife, I even moved in with two of them.
But when ever I thought of marriage I felt a since of "DREAD"!!!!
With my wife I just knew, we had been dating for 10 days when I popped the question and she said yes :D
6 Months later we where married.
We are married 13 years already now with two savages aged 12 and 10 ;)
WOW! :o
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WOW! :o
{giggle} Wild isn't it? A girlfriend of mine went on a date with this guy. He took her to Las Vegas for their date. She had a bit too much champagne, and ended up in bed with him. She had so much guilt about having sex on the first date, that before the weekend was out, ...they were hitched. That was 21 years ago, ...and they are STILL married, ...happily with 5 kids. It still blows my mind.
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I think another one that is often overlooked is compatibility. People say that opposites attract but I beg to differ. The more you have in common, the more things you can do together and the more you can enjoy eachother's company. You'll get along great.
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Hustle Man, do you think that just being legally married really put "stresses" on the marriage that were not there prior? Maybe there were but they seemed very happy and able to work out differences but with mine own eyes I saw the relationship deteriorate What kind of stresses Money for one, It seemed as soon as the money came together thats when the complaints started to flow and then of course the challenges of being and staying attracted to each other, you know how couples can forget what attracted them in the first place a side from the sex of course. ?
Do you think it's possible that before they married they had begun to struggle in their relationship and thought marrying would help in some way and then were surprised/disappointed when it didn't? For some yes, I would say that happened but for many they just couldn't handle the selfessness thats required when you are in a commited relationship.
We were also both individually fine financially. I believe our main reason for marrying was that we believed/believe it was what God wanted us to do. I totally agree with you my friend and you know I am a believer but doesn't God recognize our relationship anyway? We committed and entrusted our lives to each other in God's name and presence? Whether we have the paper or not we are making a commitment in God's eyes and I vow to honor her as she vows to honor me!
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A quarter to.
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Hustleman quote:
"I totally agree with you my friend and you know I am a believer but doesn't God recognize our relationship anyway? We committed and entrusted our lives to each other in God's name and presence? Whether we have the paper or not we are making a commitment in God's eyes and I vow to honor her as she vows to honor me!"
You know, that could be an interesting thread on the relig. board!
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I totally agree with you my friend and you know I am a believer but doesn't God recognize our relationship anyway? We committed and entrusted our lives to each other in God's name and presence? Whether we have the paper or not we are making a commitment in God's eyes and I vow to honor her as she vows to honor me!
God may recognize it, ...but without that piece of paper, quite often the state does not,
...and it's the state that both determines and enforces legal rights.
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I was married as a teenager, and although I do not regret it and adored my husband immensely, I would not reccomend it as a general course of action. Perhaps a bit older would be wiser in most scenarios.
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A quarter to.
A quarter to never that is.
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I was married as a teenager, and although I do not regret it and adored my husband immensely, I would not reccomend it as a general course of action. Perhaps a bit older would be wiser in most scenarios.
CQ, are you still married?
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Hustle Man, do you think that just being legally married really put "stresses" on the marriage that were not there prior? What kind of stresses? Stella, I spoke to one of my friends that divorced shortly after their marriage (FYI 10yrs together before marriage), he told me one of the stresses was the financial burden from the wedding. Get this lol, he told me (I never knew this until now) he took out a wedding loan because her family wouldn't help pay for any of the expenses and he wanted the wedding to be special for her. Needless to say I smacked him across the back of his head lol! Yes financial debt will cause many stresses and I will go out on a limb and say I bet this was the source of many after mairriage stresses in some of the other couples marriages as well (the after marriage debt responsibilty)! It seems that this type of debt can easily turn into a "blame game" but thats just one story I will see if I can dig up more from the others and I would guess they fell into the same trap (after marriage debt).
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God may recognize it, ...but without that piece of paper, quite often the state does not,
...and it's the state that both determines and enforces legal rights.
True in a lot of cases but is marriage more about legal rights than love?
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Stella, I spoke to one of my friends that divorced shortly after their marriage (FYI 10yrs together before marriage), he told me one of the stresses was the financial burden from the wedding. Get this lol, he told me (I never knew this until now) he took out a wedding loan because her family wouldn't help pay for any of the expenses and he wanted the wedding to be special for her. Needless to say I smacked him across the back of his head lol! Yes financial debt will cause many stresses and I will go out on a limb and say I bet this was the source of many after mairriage stresses in some of the other couples marriages as well (the after marriage debt responsibilty)! It seems that this type of debt can easily turn into a "blame game" but thats just one story I will see if I can dig up more from the others and I would guess they fell into the same trap (after marriage debt).
That is interesting! I have some friends that always fight about money....ALWAYS! That would be stressful.
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You just know it is right.
There are no rules for love and that "feeling"
I had quite a few girlfriends before my wife, I even moved in with two of them.
But when ever I thought of marriage I felt a since of "DREAD"!!!!
With my wife I just knew, we had been dating for 10 days when I popped the question and she said yes :D
6 Months later we where married.
We are married 13 years already now with two savages aged 12 and 10 ;)
WOW !! That's pretty cool, man !
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That is interesting! I have some friends that always fight about money....ALWAYS! That would be stressful.
A wise person once told me that there are two things that will destroy a marriage. Sex and money. And if either one of them is missing....goodbye marriage.
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For a Guy:
1. Only after you have really LIVED. So many marriages fail because the dude thinks pastures are greener...
2. Security. Financial, emotional, etc You cant bring someone else into yur life if its not in order in several ways. It WILL fail.
3. Mutual Trust and Respect. Hey, you gonna have to rely on that person making important decisions at the drop of a hat when you ain't there.
4. The Maturity to realise you need to compromise and meet the others needs as well as your own.
5. Kids? Hey thats a whole subject to itself if its in your plans. But all the above better be down pretty good first.
A better answer may be found in looking at why marriages fail?
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For a Guy:
1. Only after you have really LIVED. So many marriages fail because the dude thinks pastures are greener...
2. Security. Financial, emotional, etc You cant bring someone else into yur life if its not in order in several ways. It WILL fail.
3. Mutual Trust and Respect. Hey, you gonna have to rely on that person making important decisions at the drop of a hat when you ain't there.
4. The Maturity to realise you need to compromise and meet the others needs as well as your own.
5. Kids? Hey thats a whole subject to itself if its in your plans. But all the above better be down pretty good first.
A better answer may be found in looking at why marriages fail?
THAT...was a very good post trab. :)
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For a Guy:
1. Only after you have really LIVED. So many marriages fail because the dude thinks pastures are greener...
2. Security. Financial, emotional, etc You cant bring someone else into yur life if its not in order in several ways. It WILL fail.
3. Mutual Trust and Respect. Hey, you gonna have to rely on that person making important decisions at the drop of a hat when you ain't there.
4. The Maturity to realise you need to compromise and meet the others needs as well as your own.
5. Kids? Hey thats a whole subject to itself if its in your plans. But all the above better be down pretty good first.
A better answer may be found in looking at why marriages fail?
true wisdom, trust that.
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I'm curious what the opinions will be.
Let me know when you find out, Jake and.....
........have a toast on me if you're smart. :)
DIV
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When you finally decide to surrender. ;D
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For a Guy:
1. Only after you have really LIVED. So many marriages fail because the dude thinks pastures are greener...
2. Security. Financial, emotional, etc You cant bring someone else into yur life if its not in order in several ways. It WILL fail.
3. Mutual Trust and Respect. Hey, you gonna have to rely on that person making important decisions at the drop of a hat when you ain't there.
4. The Maturity to realise you need to compromise and meet the others needs as well as your own.
5. Kids? Hey thats a whole subject to itself if its in your plans. But all the above better be down pretty good first.
A better answer may be found in looking at why marriages fail?
Very good post. Based on this I don't plan to get married soon, but honestly I have thought about this lately. I'm still a young guy but with a girl I have been dating for nearly 3.5 years and everyone on her end is asking what our plans are. I want to be established in my career and in a house before I get married. If it were under different circumstances I would wait until I was 30 to do it but I don't know how realistic that is. Any advice there? ;D
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Marriage is a business agreement.
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When you laundry piles up and you sick of cooking for yourself
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When you laundry piles up and you sick of cooking for yourself
Then you just visit mom more. Lol.
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.......... just after the prenuptial agreement........... or never
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Very good post. Based on this I don't plan to get married soon, but honestly I have thought about this lately. I'm still a young guy but with a girl I have been dating for nearly 3.5 years and everyone on her end is asking what our plans are. I want to be established in my career and in a house before I get married. If it were under different circumstances I would wait until I was 30 to do it but I don't know how realistic that is. Any advice there? ;D
You dont want to lose a good girl if you got one, there aint that many good ones.
If you wouldnt cheat on her no way, and figure she's the same way then its a good bet.
Its still all hard to say. If your still into chasing women there's on sense getting married.
Figure on her wanting kids bad by about 33yrs or so. Thats just plain sensable IMO if your planning on kids.
The body starts to unwind a little faster after that.
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You dont want to lose a good girl if you got one, there aint that many good ones.
If you wouldnt cheat on her no way, and figure she's the same way then its a good bet.
Its still all hard to say. If your still into chasing women there's on sense getting married.
Figure on her wanting kids bad by about 33yrs or so. Thats just plain sensable IMO if your planning on kids.
The body starts to unwind a little faster after that.
I wouldn't cheat. Never have and hope I never will. She's good but she wants to be done with kids by 30 which is rough. It's rough when most women have a time frame when they want to get married. I just don't know if I can work with her "ideal" time frame to get hitched.
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I wouldn't cheat. Never have and hope I never will. She's good but she wants to be done with kids by 30 which is rough. It's rough when most women have a time frame when they want to get married. I just don't know if I can work with her "ideal" time frame to get hitched.
She's younger? Time frame aint so stupid once you start tacking on the years. Trust me, the body aint like a bottle of fine wine.
Having children is a terrible toll on her body, (and some all around stress for you both. But kids are great ;))
Two people also need to kind of be on that same timeframe on many levels for it to work easiest.
Ive blown off relationships that would have worked, but we just were not kind of on the same schedule on many levels. That can be painfull, but if you see a relationship is headed no-where, and both are really looking for a long term thing,,, well, life has some hurts.
Im blown away how many dudes Im seeing w/ much older women these days. Its not my idea of how to set up for a family. Just my 2 cents...
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She's younger? Time frame aint so stupid once you start tacking on the years. Trust me, the body aint like a bottle of fine wine.
Having children is a terrible toll on her body, (and some all around stress for you both. But kids are great ;))
Two people also need to kind of be on that same timeframe on many levels for it to work easiest.
Ive blown off relationships that would have worked, but we just were not kind of on the same schedule on many levels. That can be painfull, but if you see a relationship is headed no-where, and both are really looking for a long term thing,,, well, life has some hurts.
Im blown away how many dudes Im seeing w/ much older women these days. Its not my idea of how to set up for a family. Just my 2 cents...
We're the same age. I'd like to start having kids by 30 and be married a few years before. She has a different time frame which makes it hard. It can work but how well I'm not sure. Time will tell.
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We're the same age. I'd like to start having kids by 30 and be married a few years before. She has a different time frame which makes it hard. It can work but how well I'm not sure. Time will tell.
Good luck Cap...
"Marriage is comprimise". Thats from a old dude I knew who was married to a lovely woman 20 yrs his junior. ;D
(Generaly A bad idea IMO from what Ive seen in life. About 7 years younger or so is enough. Big Problems w/ them large spreads in age)
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I wouldn't cheat. Never have and hope I never will. She's good but she wants to be done with kids by 30 which is rough. It's rough when most women have a time frame when they want to get married. I just don't know if I can work with her "ideal" time frame to get hitched.
Congrats to you and yours, Cap. Getting married is a huge step. Just make sure that you both have kids when you are ready. Don't just have them for the sake of. Once you have a kid/s, all your free time is DONE. You will have to devote 99% of your time to your child/children. You are both still young so get hitched, enjoy yourselves for a year or two. Go on vacations together, etc. My two pennies.
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....let's say that a good friend that got proposed to and said yes(more in a '' Ok '' way), latter confides to you that he/she gets goosebumps just thinking about the arrival of THE day and shows very little interest in the arrangement of the whole thing(the dress, the band etc.), eventhough he/she's been together with that person for 10 years........ how would you deal with it? What would you tell your friend?
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If you have a baby on the way, then its time to get married, if not, its time to enjoy life.
I got married in the hippy way
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....let's say that a good friend that got proposed to and said yes(more in a '' Ok '' way), latter confides to you that he/she gets goosebumps just thinking about the arrival of THE day and shows very little interest in the arrangement of the whole thing(the dress, the band etc.), eventhough he/she's been together with that person for 10 years........ how would you deal with it? What would you tell your friend?
good goosebumps or freaked out poop-chill goosebumps?
Is the he/she a he? If so, there should be no concern that he is not interested in the arrangement of the whole thing.
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good goosebumps or freaked out poop-chill goosebumps?
Is the he/she a he? If so, there should be no concern that he is not interested in the arrangement of the whole thing.
freaked out goosebumps Stella and it's a she.......
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freaked out goosebumps Stella and it's a she.......
Oh.....uh...I'd suggest they get premarital counseling (or something along those lines). When your marriage is good it's fantastic. When it is bad you feel like a miserable trapped rat. Why do you think she would enter into a marriage she's not enthusiastic about?
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thoroughly knowing the guy for 10 years, common interests,financial security, age,.....and the fact that she doesn't want to break the man's heart after all these years.
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....let's say that a good friend that got proposed to and said yes(more in a '' Ok '' way), latter confides to you that he/she gets goosebumps just thinking about the arrival of THE day and shows very little interest in the arrangement of the whole thing(the dress, the band etc.), eventhough he/she's been together with that person for 10 years........ how would you deal with it? What would you tell your friend?
I'd tell my friend to have a serious sit down with the man , after 10 years they should be close enough to say things openly and be totally honest.
If my friend said she couldn't do that , I'd tell her to get a grip .
If you can't sit down and really talk , you can't be married.
After 10 yrs in a relationship if it isn't all fireworks it's understandable , but if it's in any way "distaste or dislike" towards the "marriage" , don't do it.
If it is towards the intended partner then , to allow him to go through with it and invest anything further , emotionally , would be more hurtful than pausing it now.
imho
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I'd tell my friend to have a serious sit down with the man , after 10 years they should be close enough to say things openly and be totally honest.
If my friend said she couldn't do that , I'd tell her to get a grip .
If you can't sit down and really talk , you can't be married.
After 10 yrs in a relationship if it isn't all fireworks it's understandable , but if it's in any way "distaste or dislike" towards the "marriage" , don't do it.
If it is towards the intended partner then , to allow him to go through with it and invest anything further , emotionally , would be more hurtful than pausing it now.
imho
I agree w/w8m8
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I'm curious what the opinions will be.
1. When you feel that he & you can be a "team" and neither feel the need to be in control of everything.
2. When you are 100% positive you want to make him happy (without giving up your own happiness) and be willing to be made happy by him (without slacking off on making him happy)
3. When you are comfortable enough to communicate openly with him and being open to hear AND listen to him when he opens up to you... and both you respect each other for it.
4. When you realize he becomes more beautiful as you fall deeper in love with him
5. When you can truly say that you can live without him, but you'd rather it not be that way (with tears in your eyes cos you really couldn't live without him)
6. When you can look into his eyes and imagine him naked in 50 years and not feel grossed out
7. I could go on forever
I guess I'm just a romantic
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1. When you feel that he & you can be a "team" and neither feel the need to be in control of everything.
2. When you are 100% positive you want to make him happy (without giving up your own happiness) and be willing to be made happy by him (without slacking off on making him happy)
3. When you are comfortable enough to communicate openly with him and being open to hear AND listen to him when he opens up to you... and both you respect each other for it.
4. When you realize he becomes more beautiful as you fall deeper in love with him
5. When you can truly say that you can live without him, but you'd rather it not be that way (with tears in your eyes cos you really couldn't live without him)
6. When you can look into his eyes and imagine him naked in 50 years and not feel grossed out
7. I could go on forever
I guess I'm just a romantic
Well said and very true. :)
Thanks Josephine! ;D
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1. When you feel that he & you can be a "team" and neither feel the need to be in control of everything.
2. When you are 100% positive you want to make him happy (without giving up your own happiness) and be willing to be made happy by him (without slacking off on making him happy)
3. When you are comfortable enough to communicate openly with him and being open to hear AND listen to him when he opens up to you... and both you respect each other for it.
4. When you realize he becomes more beautiful as you fall deeper in love with him
5. When you can truly say that you can live without him, but you'd rather it not be that way (with tears in your eyes cos you really couldn't live without him)
6. When you can look into his eyes and imagine him naked in 50 years and not feel grossed out
7. I could go on forever
I guess I'm just a romantic
GAG!
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GAG!
;D
On that note....
Marry me??
edit: Don't bother answering my Blackberry just went off, I already know what you are going to say even before you do
Thanks Musclephone!
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On that note....
Marry me??
edit: Don't bother answering my Blackberry just went off, I already know what you are going to say even before you do
Thanks Musclephone!
O.S.,
Either you are a clever gimmick-account or you are more than just blonde hair, tits/ass and a pole.
You Got Game. You're clever, witty and quite the talented writer. Interesting.
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O.S.,
Either you are a clever gimmick-account or you are more than just blonde hair, tits/ass and a pole.
You Got Game. You're clever, witty and quite the talented writer. Interesting.
She is the second of your guesses. ;)
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O.S.,
Either you are a clever gimmick-account or you are more than just blonde hair, tits/ass and a pole.
You Got Game. You're clever, witty and quite the talented writer. Interesting.
She is the second of your guesses. ;)
Don't worry I am trying to drink away the last of those few remaining creative brain cells -The bastards- ;)
I can make good eye candy!
We all must have something to strive for, I have chosen Gia Marie Carangi as my role model.
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We all must have something to strive for, I have chosen Gia Marie Carangi as my role model.
Your profile indicates that you're 26. Its time to put aside the alcohol and get serious. It's too late for you to become a jet-setting model, but all is not lost. I suggest you immediately develop a heroin habit and share needles with your fellow junkies.
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thoroughly knowing the guy for 10 years, common interests,financial security, age,.....and the fact that she doesn't want to break the man's heart after all these years.
well i may have left out one little thing............after the engagement, she fell for this guy(he'd asked her out a couple of months before but she replied she 'd had a boyfriend) she crossed paths in the gym with and asked him out on a date, telling him that this date has no special meaning, that she is still getting married no matter what, that she just asked him out cause she really liked him.Well that one date turned into an affair.Whenever there was an opportunity she would get together with him and once she even admitted she'd never felt for her fiancee the same way she felt for this guy.She never wanted to think about the day of the wedding.......she knows that her fiancee is a provider, she feels safe with him and she trusts him eventhough he left her once for another woman but came back to her.Maybe it's just me but i thought people were looking forward to the day of the wedding..........any thoughts?
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Unless there's money and businesses involved is legal marriage really necessary?
I personally prefer to "live in sin" (as they say down here in the south) than get married. But to each his/her own.
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When its it time to get married?????? ???
When you though of a way to murder them and get away with it AT LEAST once. 8)
tasha
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I'm curious what the opinions will be.
When the soon to be father in law shows up at your place with a shotgun :D
CalvinH,officially licensed womens board poster.
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When the soon to be father in law shows up at your place with a shotgun :D
CalvinH,officially licensed womens board poster.
I win! :D
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CalvinH,officially licensed womens board poster.
lolz :D
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SOme strange responses in this thread. Call me old-fashioned, but I'm getting hitched before we have any kids.
I want them little suckers to have the name my forefathers handed down.
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SOme strange responses in this thread. Call me old-fashioned, but I'm getting hitched before we have any kids.
I want them little suckers to have the name my forefathers handed down.
Awww, that is nice to hear. But be aware that you don't have to be married to hand your last name down to your child. It is what ever is put on the birth certificate. ;)
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well i may have left out one little thing............after the engagement, she fell for this guy(he'd asked her out a couple of months before but she replied she 'd had a boyfriend) she crossed paths in the gym with and asked him out on a date, telling him that this date has no special meaning, that she is still getting married no matter what, that she just asked him out cause she really liked him.Well that one date turned into an affair.Whenever there was an opportunity she would get together with him and once she even admitted she'd never felt for her fiancee the same way she felt for this guy.She never wanted to think about the day of the wedding.......she knows that her fiancee is a provider, she feels safe with him and she trusts him eventhough he left her once for another woman but came back to her.Maybe it's just me but i thought people were looking forward to the day of the wedding..........any thoughts?
Is this woman merely your friend or are you the one involved w/her? You don't have to answer if you rather not.
I'd think most people (at least the female) look forward to the day of the wedding yes.
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1. When you feel that he & you can be a "team" and neither feel the need to be in control of everything.
2. When you are 100% positive you want to make him happy (without giving up your own happiness) and be willing to be made happy by him (without slacking off on making him happy)
3. When you are comfortable enough to communicate openly with him and being open to hear AND listen to him when he opens up to you... and both you respect each other for it.
4. When you realize he becomes more beautiful as you fall deeper in love with him
5. When you can truly say that you can live without him, but you'd rather it not be that way (with tears in your eyes cos you really couldn't live without him)
6. When you can look into his eyes and imagine him naked in 50 years and not feel grossed out
7. I could go on forever
I guess I'm just a romantic
An excellent list.
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Guys dont care bout the wedding, we dont care what flavour the cake is, we dont care what the appetizers are , nor do we care bout the cutlery, they could use the forks they use at KFC for all we care, the only thing the guy wants to do is love the girl in the white dress.
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not gonna read 3 pages but to answer your question:
never
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I think this weekend sounds good, just in case I don't make it Thursday lol.
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Guys dont care bout the wedding, we dont care what flavour the cake is, we dont care what the appetizers are , nor do we care bout the cutlery, they could use the forks they use at KFC for all we care, the only thing the guy wants to do is fuck the girl in the white dress.
That's funny you say that.. I want a filipino/hawaiian luao wedding on the beach, in a bikini, with a gazebo covering a huge feast of pot luck dishes, poi and a pig roast. No bridesmaids or groomsmen. No fancy dresses or a church. On the other hand, my (hispanic) sweetheart wants an all out spanish grande wedding with the works. I'd rather have a simple exchange of vows on the beach, and walk thru the sand to the gazebo... and party til we fall with our faces buried in the sand next to the pig roast... and nobody remembers the next day that it was a wedding ! !
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That's funny you say that.. I want a filipino/hawaiian luao wedding on the beach, in a bikini, with a gazebo covering a huge feast of pot luck dishes, poi and a pig roast. No bridesmaids or groomsmen. No fancy dresses or a church. On the other hand, my (hispanic) sweetheart wants an all out spanish grande wedding with the works. I'd rather have a simple exchange of vows on the beach, and walk thru the sand to the gazebo... and party til we fall with our faces buried in the sand next to the pig roast... and nobody remembers the next day that it was a wedding ! !
of course im talking men in general, some men love it and some that are really cultural will go all out..i personally dont know of any man that , plans, talks bout his wedding, generally its not a big deal for men..i understand why women do plan a wedding, its there day, no one cares for the groom, nobody says " I love the groom's suit " " His hair is great " it's all about the lady which it should be
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of course im talking men in general, some men love it and some that are really cultural will go all out..i personally dont know of any man that , plans, talks bout his wedding, generally its not a big deal for men..i understand why women do plan a wedding, its there day, no one cares for the groom, nobody says " I love the groom's suit " " His hair is great " it's all about the lady which it should be
Why? ??? Seems to me there are 2 people getting married, ...so why should it be all about the lady?
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Why? ??? Seems to me there are 2 people getting married, ...so why should it be all about the lady?
i know most people love the idea of marriage for the "ceremony" or the "Ritual".
Every one is so keen on planning a wedding (the girl in particular), how many times do u see a stressed out bride to be, "I need to organise a hairdresser, a beautician, a makeup artist, the cake people, i need to plan the flowers" How bout planning a plan B when the marriage goes awkward, not many couples plan there relationships, thats why the failure rate is so high, I know the divorce in Australia is about 48% but in that 52% thats still married i know at the very least 50% are to lazy or broke to apply for a divorce....
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i know most people love the idea of marriage for the "ceremony" or the "Ritual".
Every one is so keen on planning a wedding (the girl in particular), how many times do u see a stressed out bride to be, "I need to organise a hairdresser, a beautician, a makeup artist, the cake people, i need to plan the flowers" How bout planning a plan B when the marriage goes awkward, not many couples plan there relationships, thats why the failure rate is so high, I know the divorce in Australia is about 48% but in that 52% thats still married i know at the very least 50% are to lazy or broke to apply for a divorce....
Again I ask, ...why should the wedding be all about the lady? you made the statement, ...please back it up. Why?
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Again I ask, ...why should the wedding be all about the lady? you made the statement, ...please back it up. Why?
the wedding is about the lady, its almost every girls dream to get married, no man at 18-21 says "fuck this life, im sick of fucking random ho's" girls think of there wedding day at 15.
now the wedding is about the bride and groom, but who really is getting all the attention??? unless the bride is fucking ugly that is..and damn it i have seen many ugly brides, married way past there expiry date..there should be a law on ugly people in society, Im serious, if your ugly and fat and u live in the states buy a gun i'll happily paypal you and point that barrel in your mouth and pull that trigger.
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the wedding is about the lady,
Again I ask WHY?
its almost every girls dream to get married,
LOL! Spoken like a true chauvanist. I hate to break it to you, ...not all women dream of being married.
no man at 18-21 says "fuck this life, im sick of fucking random ho's"
Some guys do
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Why? ??? Seems to me there are 2 people getting married, ...so why should it be all about the lady?
Because guys don't care about any of that stuff. Also, we don't read a lot of fairy tales and have expectations about how a big party and being lavished with attention for a few days will make our lives perfect.
Why things don't work out? People are more focused on planning the wedding than their marriage.
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Again I ask WHY?
LOL! Spoken like a true chauvanist. I hate to break it to you, ...not all women dream of being married.
Some guys do
WHY? i been to many weddings, the centre of attention is the bride.. remember Weddings are a business, you cant make much $$ off a groom, the only person who say the groom look good is his mum.
How many wedding magazines are based on the Groom?
Im not a chauvanist. of course not all women want to get married, the majority do!! and the ones that dont are fucken stupid, lesbians or just cant keep a man....true story
its rare for a guy to plan a wedding, fuck planning a wedding day, the guy should be financial planning instead so when the bride gets knocked up he doesnt go broke, preparing for school fees, bigger home, new car etc.
any guy at 18-21 that says im sick of fucking random hoes hasnt really fucked anyone, they will settle with anything that can stand the sight of him, FFS which loser of a guy would get married at 21??? unless his ugly and cant pull chicks...this is fact.
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Because guys don't care about any of that stuff. Also, we don't read a lot of fairy tales and have expectations about how a big party and being lavished with attention for a few days will make our lives perfect.
Why things don't work out? People are more focused on planning the wedding than their marriage.
EXACTLY, a lot of girls are so into THE BIG DAY they forget other things, if some of these hoes worked on there relationships as well they did on the wedding day, the divorce rate will be in the single figures..Yes i said hoes, cause ive fucked a few hens on hens night!
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WHY? i been to many weddings, the centre of attention is the bride.. remember Weddings are a business, you cant make much $$ off a groom, the only person who say the groom look good is his mum.
How many wedding magazines are based on the Groom?
Just because the bride has been the centre of attention at weddings doesn't explain to me WHY the bride SHOULD be the centre of attention, or WHY it is HER day. As for the only person saying the groom looks good being his Mom isn't true. Look at Bob & Tasha's wedding. Both Bob & Tasha looked good.
Im not a chauvanist. of course not all women want to get married, the majority do!! and the ones that dont are fucken stupid, lesbians or just cant keep a man....true story
ROTFLMAO!! And that last sentence really shows how unchauvanistic you are. ::)
I hate to break it to you, but not all women who don't want to get married are stupid lesbians who can't keep a man. Infact, I'll hazard a guess and say the majority of women who don't want to get married are NOT lesbians and have no problem keeping a man. It's those who can't keep a man that require the state to obligate him to stay.
its rare for a guy to plan a wedding, fuck planning a wedding day, the guy should be financial planning instead so when the bride gets knocked up he doesnt go broke, preparing for school fees, bigger home, new car etc.
Just because it's rare for a guy to plan a wedding doesn't explain WHY the wedding SHOULD be all about the lady.
I'm still waiting for that one.
any guy at 18-21 that says im sick of fucking random hoes hasnt really fucked anyone, they will settle with anything that can stand the sight of him, FFS which loser of a guy would get married at 21??? unless his ugly and cant pull chicks...this is fact.
It seems to me that any guy at 18-21 that says "I'm sick of f**cking random hoes" is someone who has pulled alot of chicks. People rarely get sick of something unless & until they've had alot of it. Plenty of guys get married at 21. Maybe not anyone you know, ...but there are many who do, ...and not just because the rabbit died.
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EXACTLY, a lot of girls are so into THE BIG DAY they forget other things, if some of these hoes worked on there relationships as well they did on the wedding day, the divorce rate will be in the single figures..Yes i said hoes, cause ive fucked a few hens on hens night!
This is true and I have had female professors say the same thing, minus the hoes part. I think marriage is good if you are not too idealistic about married life is going to be like. Too many people go in thinking the romance level will never fade and that they will not have to work to stay happy. If you understand that then I would say go for it.
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Just because the bride has been the centre of attention at weddings doesn't explain to me WHY the bride SHOULD be the centre of attention, or WHY it is HER day. As for the only person saying the groom looks good being his Mom isn't true. Look at Bob & Tasha's wedding. Both Bob & Tasha looked good.
ROTFLMAO!! And that last sentence really shows how unchauvanistic you are. ::)
I hate to break it to you, but not all women who don't want to get married are stupid lesbians who can't keep a man. Infact, I'll hazard a guess and say the majority of women who don't want to get married are NOT lesbians and have no problem keeping a man. It's those who can't keep a man that require the state to obligate him to stay.
Just because it's rare for a guy to plan a wedding doesn't explain WHY the wedding SHOULD be all about the lady.
I'm still waiting for that one.
It seems to me that any guy at 18-21 that says "I'm sick of f**cking random hoes" is someone who has pulled alot of chicks. People rarely get sick of something unless & until they've had alot of it. Plenty of guys get married at 21. Maybe not anyone you know, ...but there are many who do, ...and not just because the rabbit died.
is there something else??? have i touched a nerve? it seems like your melting down, are you married JE?? and who the fuck is Bob and tasha?
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is there something else??? have i touched a nerve? it seems like your melting down, are you married JE?? and who the fuck is Bob and tasha?
Aside from what she is talking about with regards to the wedding day being a mutual thing, she is legitimately getting mad at you because you are acting like an ass with your comments. You have a point about the wedding day because most guys try to please the woman on that day because women are told it is a big deal and guys are not.
Picking a wife isn't about picking the best hole to stick your cock in dude. If you really want to marry someone and that is your perspective then you can safely bet you will get divorced. A guy getting married at 18-21 is more immature and inexperienced than anything else, not a pathetic loser who can't get pussy.
Were you in a frat?
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Aside from what she is talking about with regards to the wedding day being a mutual thing, she is legitimately getting mad at you because you are acting like an ass with your comments. You have a point about the wedding day because most guys try to please the woman on that day because women are told it is a big deal and guys are not.
Picking a wife isn't about picking the best hole to stick your cock in dude. If you really want to marry someone and that is your perspective then you can safely bet you will get divorced. A guy getting married at 18-21 is more immature and inexperienced than anything else, not a pathetic loser who can't get pussy.
Were you in a frat?
Im not Politically correct unfortunately, i know im right about the wedding day, my line of work involves wedding days so im at a wedding every 2nd or 3rd week..Wedding is about the bride, marriage is about both of them...
i dont think Jaguar is getting mad at me, she really believes in her opinion, i believe in mine, i dont mind going back and forth with her.
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Im not Politically correct unfortunately, i know im right about the wedding day, my line of work involves wedding days so im at a wedding every 2nd or 3rd week..Wedding is about the bride, marriage is about both of them...
i dont think Jaguar is getting mad at me, she really believes in her opinion, i believe in mine, i dont mind going back and forth with her.
With the wedding and marriage you are def correct. Women spend too much time worrying about the wedding and not marriage and guys who marry young are usually fools, but not because they can't get play but rather because we need to learn more about relationships before we get married.
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With the wedding and marriage you are def correct. Women spend too much time worrying about the wedding and not marriage and guys who marry young are usually fools, but not because they can't get play but rather because we need to learn more about relationships before we get married.
yeah your right, 18-21's are not experienced with there emotions to know when is the right time, geez at 21 you dont even know what outfit to wear let alone marry a girl u want to spend forever with..
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Im not Politically correct unfortunately, i know im right about the wedding day, my line of work involves wedding days so im at a wedding every 2nd or 3rd week..Wedding is about the bride, marriage is about both of them...
I'm not debating whether many women dream about their wedding day. I'm simply asking you to back up a claim you made about the wedding "should be all about the lady" I'm asking you WHY should the wedding be all about the lady. Your only response is that your work places you at alot of weddings? ??? wtf? How does that explain or justify why?
i dont think Jaguar is getting mad at me, she really believes in her opinion, i believe in mine, i dont mind going back and forth with her.
You're right, ...I'm not getting mad. I'm just thinking you're hardly even 1/2 as intelligent as I previously gave you credit for. I on the other hand do mind going back & forth with you. Someone who makes sense, or has a valid point which I may or may not agree with is one thing, ...but someone who's simply acting like an ass... well, is hardly worth runing a manicure for. Come up with some substance to back up your claims, or accept the fact that you've shown yourself as someone who talks out his anatomy making you an unworthy discussion partner.
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I'm not debating whether many women dream about their wedding day. I'm simply asking you to back up a claim you made about the wedding "should be all about the lady" I'm asking you WHY should the wedding be all about the lady. Your only response is that your work places you at alot of weddings? ??? wtf? How does that explain or justify why?
You're right, ...I'm not getting mad. I'm just thinking you're hardly even 1/2 as intelligent as I previously gave you credit for. I on the other hand do mind going back & forth with you. Someone who makes sense, or has a valid point which I may or may not agree with is one thing, ...but someone who's simply acting like an ass... well, is hardly worth runing a manicure for. Come up with some substance to back up your claims, or accept the fact that you've shown yourself as someone who talks out his anatomy making you an unworthy discussion partner.
hahahah Meltdown...your the same person that said Denzel had more power then Will smith hahahahahahahaah
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hahahah Meltdown...your the same person that said Denzel had more power then Will smith hahahahahahahaah
No meltdown at all.
PS - You're the same person who secretly PM'ed me saying you agreed with my position... remember? ;)
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No meltdown at all.
PS - You're the same person who secretly PM'ed me saying you agreed with my position... remember? ;)
about Denzel and will??? did i?? i remember you made valid points but i still believe Will has more pull then Denzel.
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about Denzel and will??? did i?? i remember you made valid points but i still believe Will has more pull then Denzel.
yes, you did. 8)
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« Sent to: jaguarenterprises on: January 05, 2008, 09:17:38 PM »
That's North American Eastern Time, ...you may have to adjust for Australian time, ...but check your PM's. 8)
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yes, you did. 8)
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« Sent to: jaguarenterprises on: January 05, 2008, 09:17:38 PM »
That's North American Eastern Time, ...you may have to adjust for Australian time, ...but check your PM's. 8)
i delete them after i read them.oh well.
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i delete them after i read them.oh well.
Would you like me to quote you? ;D
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Would you like me to quote you? ;D
no thanks, will just leave it a that. :)
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no thanks, will just leave it a that. :)
Now why did I know you were going to say that? 8)
if you change your mind, and want me to quote you...
I can produce a screen shot of the PM's to refresh your memory.
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Now why did I know you were going to say that? 8)
if you change your mind, and want me to quote you...
I can produce a screen shot of the PM's to refresh your memory.
if you really have to show me, go for it
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if you really have to show me, go for it
You certainly are a glutton for punishment. how's your memory so far?
PM's heavily editted and blacked out to preserve the confidentiality of the PM's, as well so as to NOT publicly disrespect or invade the privacy of those mentioned in the PM. The important parts are still legible though,
...like when you said I was ten thousand percent right! 8)
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If you d/l the jpg files to your computer, ...you'll be able to read them legibly.
Hope That Refreshes your Memory. :P
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If you d/l the jpg files to your computer, ...you'll be able to read them legibly.
Hope That Refreshes your Memory. :P
i was hoping you can just PM them back to me, but its all good, my memory is refreshed!
Thanks for that.
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i was hoping you can just PM them back to me, but its all good, my memory is refreshed!
Thanks for that.
Glad I could help ;D
Now I know what those gov guys go through when they send out those FOI documents. :-\
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I hate to break it to you, but not all women who don't want to get married are stupid lesbians who can't keep a man. Infact, I'll hazard a guess and say the majority of women who don't want to get married are NOT lesbians and have no problem keeping a man. It's those who can't keep a man that require the state to obligate him to stay.
Nothing wrong with wanting to be married or not. To many women it's not a life decision anyway, they just run along and do it without the true meaning some others attach. Married - sure sleep with a guy on the side, or just divorce guy when you're bored, and you were flat broke coming in so are not risking losing assets and may end up better off monetarily. Divorce rates at 40 - 50% in western world and adultery stats show that.
If women can sustain their own high standard of living and will genuinely take vows very seriously [not say it like everyone does ::)] - of course they will view it differently. Not as appealing to marry some scrub, will be far more selective and is in a position to be as well.
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If women can sustain their own high standard of living and will genuinely take vows very seriously [not say it like everyone does ::)] - of course they will view it differently. Not as appealing to marry some scrub, will be far more selective and is in a position to be as well.
I agree with you CQ and I tell my kids the same just as my mother told me; Get your own and be your own. Accept responsibility for your own reactions and be self supporting.
My mother taught me how to cook and clean for myself so when I met a woman I could love her for her and not what she could do for me. DFon't get me wrong I am very old fashioned and don't mind a woman staying home to raise kids and care for the home while hubby does his stuff (Making the money, Paying the bills, protecting and being the head of the family etc.) but that whole dependency thing sometimes scares me. A false sense of commitment looms on the horizon. My ex was like that (depending on me for everything (She still does for the most part)) I think unless agreed upon vehemently and up front in the relationship, a woman should contribute monetarily if possible.
HM