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Title: Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie worst opening ever
Post by: TK on March 31, 2014, 08:26:57 AM

Is Arnold done with making movies?

This weekend, Sabotage brought in $5.3 million in the United States from 2,486 theaters. It was Arnold's worst opening in 30+ years and is now considered the worst ever opening weekend gross for a movie debuting in more than 2,000 theaters.

His last two movies.

In 2013, Escape Plan's gross opening weekend was $9.9 million, with only a $25.1 million US gross.

His other movie, in 2013, The Last Stand, also grossed $6.3 million opening weekend, but only brought in $12.1 million total in the US.


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Post by: Frank Clairmonte on March 31, 2014, 08:28:17 AM
he should do different kind of movies now.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2014, 08:29:04 AM
Is Arnold done with making movies?

This weekend, Sabotage brought in $5.3 million in the United States from 2,486 theaters. It was Arnold's worst opening in 30+ years and is now considered the worst ever opening weekend gross for a movie debuting in more than 2,000 theaters.

His last two movies.

In 2013, Escape Plan's gross opening weekend was $9.9 million, with only a $25.1 million US gross.

His other movie, in 2013, The Last Stand, also grossed $6.3 million opening weekend, but only brought in $12.1 million total in the US.

I wonder how much he's getting paid to do these movies?  Someone keeps hiring him.
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Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 31, 2014, 08:29:52 AM
he should do different kind of movies now.

You mean like movies that require acting skills?
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Post by: King Shizzo on March 31, 2014, 08:32:47 AM
Yeah but its bullshit. This looks like his best movie in a long time. It will look like a flop at the American box office, but it will still make a profit in international box office, not to mention rentals and dvd sales.

Fuck the American box office. Shit movies like Twilight and Hunger Games reign supreme  ::)

Maybe I am getting too old  :-X

Can't wait for Expendables 3.
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Post by: SuperTed on March 31, 2014, 08:41:48 AM
Not surprised. Arnie is too old now to play the lead action hero.
His time has now passed.
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Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 31, 2014, 08:48:10 AM
His first project should have been a sequel to one of his hits.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2014, 09:10:42 AM
His first project should have been a sequel to one of his hits.

Yeah, like a real Predator sequel.  That movie would have made a fortune.

Danny Glover? -lol
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Post by: Rambone on March 31, 2014, 09:11:24 AM
His first project should have been a sequel to one of his hits.

Jingle All the Way 2
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 31, 2014, 09:23:15 AM
Arnold was smart when Governor.  he kept on making trips to Israel on Cali's dollar and would get a bunch of contacts so when he retired and went back to movies he'd have guys lined up to fund his films.
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Post by: bigmc on March 31, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
escape plan did 137mill world wide
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Post by: bigmc on March 31, 2014, 09:30:21 AM
the last stand did 48 mill world wide


stallone is the draw in escape plan

arnie is finished
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Post by: the trainer on March 31, 2014, 09:35:17 AM
You guys are not looking at the big picture action movies are just not making money anymore like they use to no matter who the actor is, kids coming up now are sissies they just want to see twinks in costume trying to act tough the world has changed.
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie worst opening ever
Post by: Rudee on March 31, 2014, 09:35:51 AM
Two main reasons why this movie is not doing well:

1. Audience for 80's style action movies is declining rapidly
2. Arnold is too old for the part
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Post by: wolfrittner on March 31, 2014, 09:36:42 AM
The only thing that could safe Arnolds acting career is a buddy movie with Mike O'Hearn !
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Post by: Wiggs on March 31, 2014, 09:41:41 AM
Rolf will sooth Arnold during these trying times.
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 31, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
Get Ted McGinley on the phone.
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Post by: wolfrittner on March 31, 2014, 09:48:34 AM
Rolf will sooth Arnold during these trying times.
LOL Ralf to the rescue !! ;D
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Post by: hench on March 31, 2014, 10:07:27 AM
Arnolds plan of starting small and working back up has failed thats all. he needs event movies like back in the day, big budget high concept. He's got t5 now which is guaranteed to put him back on the map as arnold films were never small, they were spectacles. After genesis he should do big movies and take roles where the story is the  star, not revolving around a central character which is the difference from then and now  example he would have been perfect for world war z over brad pitt.
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Post by: TrueGrit on March 31, 2014, 10:09:57 AM
I heard that Ralf cups Arnold's balls when he takes a piss, so they don't inadvertently slap against his thigh and throb mildly.
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Post by: Alucard on March 31, 2014, 10:11:33 AM
Two main reasons why this movie is not doing well:

1. Audience for 80's style action movies is declining rapidly
2. Arnold is too old for the part
Sadly this... Audience changed, old action "no bullshit CGI" flicks with charismatic actors are not big anymore, and the only true action stars are all old... Fuck Noah's Ark and those laughable CGI shitfests...
You mean like movies that require acting skills?
Arnold was never a good actor, but he was not as bad as people make out to be, he was fine for his roles... And today, outside Di Caprio and very few else, where are the good-great actors? Most young stars are massively overrated...
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Post by: King Shizzo on March 31, 2014, 10:11:57 AM
Arnolds plan of starting small and working back up has failed thats all. he needs event movies like back in the day, big budget high concept. He's got t5 now which is guaranteed to put him back on the map as arnold films were never small, they were spectacles. After genesis he should do big movies and take roles where the story is the  star, not revolving around a central character which is the difference from then and now  example he would have been perfect for world war z over brad pitt.
Fuck no!!! Are you crazy? I like Arnold, but that would have been a horrible choice.
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Post by: TrueGrit on March 31, 2014, 10:12:59 AM
Arnold should play a badass Nazi.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
the last stand did 48 mill world wide

stallone is the draw in escape plan

arnie is finished

Arnie may be finished, but I really didn't think Escape Plan was a bad movie.
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Post by: Megalodon on March 31, 2014, 10:14:30 AM
Connery had box office success at 69 playing opposite a hot younger actress.

Connery can act and retained a lot of his bone structure.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
Sadly this... Audience changed, old action "no bullshit CGI" flicks with charismatic actors are not big anymore, and the only true action stars are all old... Fuck Noah's Ark and those laughable CGI shitfests...Arnold was never a good actor, but he was not as bad as people make out to be, he was fine for his roles... And today, outside Di Caprio and very few else, where are the good-great actors? Most young stars are massively overrated...

I agree.  90% of the movies today are CGI shitfests. 
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Post by: Alucard on March 31, 2014, 10:21:17 AM
Fuck no!!! Are you crazy? I like Arnold, but that would have been a horrible choice.
World War Z was a big bore, the most boring "zombie" (i hate running zombies) apocalypse ever... Brad Pitt is an overrated laughable actor, but yes Arnold would of been a bad choice, some sort of actor with dramatic/action skills was a good choice...
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Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 31, 2014, 10:25:32 AM
And today, outside Di Caprio and very few else, where are the good-great actors?

Great movies were never just about the stars. It's about a complete cast and chemistry between actors. Pacino would never have been such a highly praised actor without John Cazale. Good or great movies have strong supporting casts. Today, think of guys like Giamatti, Seymour Hoffman (RIP), William h.Macy....guys like that. Problem is when movies revolve exclusively around one actor. Which tends to happen more and more often.
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Post by: funk51 on March 31, 2014, 10:31:48 AM
Is Arnold done with making movies?

This weekend, Sabotage brought in $5.3 million in the United States from 2,486 theaters. It was Arnold's worst opening in 30+ years and is now considered the worst ever opening weekend gross for a movie debuting in more than 2,000 theaters.

His last two movies.

In 2013, Escape Plan's gross opening weekend was $9.9 million, with only a $25.1 million US gross.

His other movie, in 2013, The Last Stand, also grossed $6.3 million opening weekend, but only brought in $12.1 million total in the US.



Commando 2 break out the old bikini again.
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Post by: Alucard on March 31, 2014, 10:40:18 AM
Great movies were never just about the stars. It's about a complete cast and chemistry between actors. Pacino would never have been such a highly praised actor without John Cazale. Good or great movies have strong supporting casts. Today, think of guys like Giamatti, Seymour Hoffman (RIP), William h.Macy....guys like that. Problem is when movies revolve exclusively around one actor. Which tends to happen more and more often.
And this is also very true... And if you think about it, look at Terminator, probably Arnold's most important movie/franchise, Michael Biehn, Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong, good actors surrounding Arnold and a great story... About Pacino, i even think that outside "gangster" flicks he's a bit limited, wonderful actor still...
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Post by: Rami on March 31, 2014, 10:46:01 AM
Not many people know who he is anymore. These days you people only know of Justin Bieber.
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Post by: syntaxmachine on March 31, 2014, 10:59:40 AM
Arnolds plan of starting small and working back up has failed thats all. he needs event movies like back in the day, big budget high concept.

Yes, Arnold's films always were "high concept."
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Post by: Automation on March 31, 2014, 11:07:27 AM
Only Tarentino can save him....
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Post by: Megalodon on March 31, 2014, 11:10:26 AM
He's a different looking guy than when he was making blockbusters.

His attitude doesn't go over the same way without the same look.

It would be like if you transplanted schwarzeneggers personality into a different person. Its not the same, especially when your persona has a lot to do with your looks.

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Post by: Montague on March 31, 2014, 11:13:54 AM
His first project should have been a sequel to one of his hits.


Yes!

Forget the other horseshit and focus on King Conan, T-5, True Lies II, etc.
Those will work for him.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2014, 11:20:48 AM
He's a different looking guy than when he was making blockbusters.

His attitude doesn't go over the same way without the same look.

It would be like if you transplanted schwarzeneggers personality into a different person. Its not the same, especially when your persona has a lot to do with your looks.

T-2 might qualify as a blockbuster, but Arnie's other movies were nothing near "blockbuster" status. 

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Post by: JasonH on March 31, 2014, 11:22:10 AM
Just because it opened with poor numbers doesn't mean it's going to be a bad movie. Not sure how much it cost to make but it won't make a loss and therefore the studios well keep hitting Arnold because he's abankable name.
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Post by: King Shizzo on March 31, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
Just because it opened with poor numbers doesn't mean it's going to be a bad movie. Not sure how much it cost to make but it won't make a loss and therefore the studios well keep hitting Arnold because he's abankable name.
Exactly. Sabotage looks like a really good movie.

Hell, I still watch every Van Damme direct to dvd movie. Most of them are pretty good too.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on March 31, 2014, 11:28:01 AM

Yes!

Forget the other horseshit and focus on King Conan, T-5, True Lies II, etc.
Those will work for him.

King Conan will never get made unless Arnie starts hitting the sauce hard again.  A 68-70 year old Conan? -lol

He was good as the terminator because he had the physique to back it up.  Again, he needs to up the dosage.

True Lies 2 would never work today.  Jamie Lee Curtis would need to be in it... seen her lately?
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Post by: njflex on March 31, 2014, 11:28:59 AM
And this is also very true... And if you think about it, look at Terminator, probably Arnold's most important movie/franchise, Michael Biehn, Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong, good actors surrounding Arnold and a great story... About Pacino, i even think that outside "gangster" flicks he's a bit limited, wonderful actor still...
PACINO gangster flicks only really 'devils advocate 'awesome'glen garry glen ross 'fine work by all',heat 'he is a cop in it so kiNda'insane'
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 31, 2014, 11:32:40 AM
And this is also very true... And if you think about it, look at Terminator, probably Arnold's most important movie/franchise, Michael Biehn, Linda Hamilton and Edward Furlong, good actors surrounding Arnold and a great story... About Pacino, i even think that outside "gangster" flicks he's a bit limited, wonderful actor still...

Pacino is doing shakespear on Broadway.  He is not limited.  Sadly he is typecasted though
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Post by: Megalodon on March 31, 2014, 11:35:14 AM
T-2 might qualify as a blockbuster, but Arnie's other movies were nothing near "blockbuster" status. 



He was getting paid blockbuster money though and that is his bottom line. Over $10M on a least 13 films. Over $20M on at least 7 movies.

He is still making millions but a fraction of what he was.
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Post by: hench on March 31, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
Arnolds clearly back in shape and ready for t5. The physique isn't a problem, he needs to stop playing an everyman and hiding that physique. Its the movies, not real life, its just about looking the part and looking capable. Kids go mad for jackman or hemsworth when they put on a few pounds for thor and hercules yet neither would survive a bicep comparison with arnold. If neeson can be accepted in action roles so can arnold, taken is a movie Arnold wished he'd made, small budget was going dtv but somehow hit the right chord, its a shame arnolds try at small budget has backfired so back to what he does best.
I said world war z coz i think it needed a commanding presence like arnie to give it more life and really tear shit up. He was meant to do i am legend back before the governorship, it was an arnold event movie with a great script,  when t5 makes big.money studios will see he can still sell in big budget high concept stuff
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Post by: King Shizzo on March 31, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
Arnolds clearly back in shape and ready for t5. The physique isn't a problem, he needs to stop playing an everyman and hiding that physique. Its the movies, not real life, its just about looking the part and looking capable. Kids go mad for jackman or hemsworth when they put on a few pounds for thor and hercules yet neither would survive a bicep comparison with arnold. If neeson can be accepted in action roles so can arnold, taken is a movie Arnold wished he'd made, small budget was going dtv but somehow hit the right chord, its a shame arnolds try at small budget has backfired so back to what he does best.
I said world war z coz i think it needed a commanding presence like arnie to give it more life and really tear shit up. He was meant to do i am legend back before the governorship, it was an arnold event movie with a great script,  when t5 makes big.money studios will see he can still sell in big budget high concept stuff
Holy Shit!!!  :o Hey Arnold! Don't listen to the haters.
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 31, 2014, 12:13:51 PM
Arnold cant talk anymore. Brain to old and slow. Sad he never could made a great movie. Terminator 2 was ok, but just bcz i was 15 back then : ). A little bit sad he never could do a clever movie. I wonder what the other famous talanted actors think of him...
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Post by: jwb on March 31, 2014, 12:22:27 PM
People still go to movie theaters?
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Post by: King Shizzo on March 31, 2014, 12:27:19 PM
People still go to movie theaters?
You bring up a good point. With the advent of big screen tv's, HD, and surround sound, movie theatres will go the way of the video game arcades.

They are becoming obsolete.
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 31, 2014, 12:30:16 PM
I go! People get tired of beein looked inside their cells. Its nice to come out see/meet people and a little bit more than just 4 walls inside a home!
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 31, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
Women hate Arnold(via Maria Shriver), haha. You guys gonna take a girl to see this latest movie? Nope.
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Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 31, 2014, 01:19:20 PM
woman that u wanne fuck dosent know who Arnold is! His time have passed on this earth! Same for brad pit! Just an old man for today s upcoming hot ladies!
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Post by: Bevo on March 31, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
I don't care what anyone says tom cruise is a great actor. Been able to survive the 80's, 90's, and 2000's is no easy feat, despite his lunatic behavior years back
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Post by: 240 is Back on March 31, 2014, 01:21:31 PM
his movies don't make as *much*, but they're still profitable.

last stand was crap as a movie...  it's made $120 mil so far... it only cost $45 mil to make.  

He's still tripling their investment.  So what he throws a stinker from time to time.  At absolute WORST, they break even... and really, I'd be shocked to see the last arnold movie that LOST money when all was said and done.  Overseas, it's sitll arnold and it's still selling.
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Post by: NordicNerd on March 31, 2014, 01:25:00 PM
Is Arnold done with making movies?
...

Yes, I think so. He looks and acts like an old man. He has lost the cocky confidence he had in his prime and has become slow in mind and action.

NN
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Post by: Bevo on March 31, 2014, 01:32:23 PM
Needs to take a cue from Clint Eastwood
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Post by: jude2 on March 31, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
You guys are not looking at the big picture action movies are just not making money anymore like they use to no matter who the actor is, kids coming up now are sissies they just want to see twinks in costume trying to act tough the world has changed.
Good point.
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Post by: Stan Diego on March 31, 2014, 07:32:24 PM
WHAT IS THE ULMER SCALE?
The Ulmer Scale is the film industry's premier series of powerbases for tracking, measuring and ranking the star power of more than 1,400 actors worldwide. Polling dozens of leading deal-makers from Hollywood and key international territories, the Scale uses a 100-point ranking system to measure bankability, the key component of star power. Bankability is the degree to which an actor's name alone can raise 100% or majority financing up-front for a film. Often it is the most critical factor in determining whether an actor is hired for a project. The Ulmer Scale tracks it exclusively for all three film budget levels: art house, mid-range and studio-level features.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's ranking: 98

Which means that film financiers stand a 98 percent chance of recouping their investment in worldwide upfront sales before a single frame of a movie is even shot.
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Post by: Eric2 on March 31, 2014, 07:32:36 PM
So silly to watch an old man playing an action hero. Arnold will never regain what he once had,be it his muscles or his command at the box office. All he had to offer the action genre was his goofy accent, his one liners and of course his muscle. Well, the muscles are gone,his accent and his one liners are old hat and very boring. Watching him on late night doing the chopper skit with jimmy Fallon was a sad sight to see. Stop using lines from 30 year old movies it's lame. It's like the scene with Adam Sandler going back to school dressing like the 1980s with same car and music,and every one at the school thinks he's a loser.
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Post by: Viking11 on March 31, 2014, 07:34:34 PM
Arnie may be finished, but I really didn't think Escape Plan was a bad movie.

I just saw this movie. I thought it was really good. Yeah both stars looked old but they carried the action.  Plot was pretty clever.
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Post by: Tarantula157 on March 31, 2014, 11:26:08 PM
the last stand did 48 mill world wide


stallone is the draw in escape plan

arnie is finished
Stallone's "Bullet to the head"and "Grudge match"were even bigger failures than "The last stand".
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Post by: The Ugly on March 31, 2014, 11:40:25 PM
Needs to take a cue from Clint Eastwood

Please don't mention Clint in an Arnold thread. Arnold blew shit up in a few overrated popcorn flicks. Clint, on the other hand, is a cinematic GOD.
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Post by: POB on March 31, 2014, 11:55:58 PM
You bring up a good point. With the advent of big screen tv's, HD, and surround sound, movie theatres will go the way of the video game arcades.

They are becoming obsolete.

You forgot Mexicans with boot leg DVDs for sale out side the taqueria :D
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Post by: Bevo on April 01, 2014, 12:46:31 AM
Please don't mention Clint in an Arnold thread. Arnold blew shit up in a few overrated popcorn flicks. Clint, on the other hand, is a cinematic GOD.

Yes but when Eastwood aged he went into a different direction on the kind of films he was making,  Arnold should do the same thing

It's like Eastwood coming back to do Dirty Harry 2 at his current age, not believable at all...

No comparison but Arnold should get a clue but hey, he's still making good money worldwide on his films
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Post by: wolfrittner on April 01, 2014, 03:01:13 AM
Clint Eastwood ,Connery ,Harrison Ford, even Stallone have acting skills . Arnold unfortunately doesn't .
With his body gone he has nothing to show. Plus all the American females hate him after what he did to Maria!
He will do ok in Europe. But Europe is no USA!  Its over for him. I truly don't think he will make a come back !!
It sucks big time getting old !
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Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 01, 2014, 06:26:15 AM
Clint Eastwood ,Connery ,Harrison Ford, even Stallone have acting skills . Arnold unfortunately doesn't .
With his body gone he has nothing to show. Plus all the American females hate him after what he did to Maria the maid!
He will do ok in Europe. But Europe is no USA!  Its over for him. I truly don't think he will make a come back !!
It sucks big time getting old !

Fixed.
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Post by: trapz101 on April 01, 2014, 06:48:05 AM
he should do comedies
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie worst opening ever
Post by: Montague on April 01, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
WHAT IS THE ULMER SCALE?
The Ulmer Scale is the film industry's premier series of powerbases for tracking, measuring and ranking the star power of more than 1,400 actors worldwide. Polling dozens of leading deal-makers from Hollywood and key international territories, the Scale uses a 100-point ranking system to measure bankability, the key component of star power. Bankability is the degree to which an actor's name alone can raise 100% or majority financing up-front for a film. Often it is the most critical factor in determining whether an actor is hired for a project. The Ulmer Scale tracks it exclusively for all three film budget levels: art house, mid-range and studio-level features.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's ranking: 98

Which means that film financiers stand a 98 percent chance of recouping their investment in worldwide upfront sales before a single frame of a movie is even shot.


THIS is all that matters.
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on April 01, 2014, 03:09:52 PM
Yes but when Eastwood aged he went into a different direction on the kind of films he was making,  Arnold should do the same thing

It's like Eastwood coming back to do Dirty Harry 2 at his current age, not believable at all...

No comparison but Arnold should get a clue but hey, he's still making good money worldwide on his films

I watched UNFORGIVEN on cable again yesterday for the 50th time... what a great movie.

(http://oscarmovs.com/unforgiven2.jpg)
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Post by: Megalodon on April 01, 2014, 03:13:28 PM
Schwarzeneggers biggest concern is that his exoskeleton is moulting. No amount of muscle can make up for that. No amount of $ or box office can bring back your height and facial structure..at least in 2014.
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Post by: Bevo on April 01, 2014, 03:52:36 PM
Clint Eastwood ,Connery ,Harrison Ford, even Stallone have acting skills . Arnold unfortunately doesn't .
With his body gone he has nothing to show. Plus all the American females hate him after what he did to Maria!
He will do ok in Europe. But Europe is no USA!  Its over for him. I truly don't think he will make a come back !!
It sucks big time getting old !

I wouldn't put Stallone in there , he is so so imo horrible
Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger's movie worst opening ever
Post by: Quickerblade on April 01, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
Stallone's "Bullet to the head"and "Grudge match"were even bigger failures than "The last stand".



Grudge match did well internationally and cost 35-40M to make.
Bullet to the head failed everywhere.
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Post by: Quickerblade on April 01, 2014, 03:54:33 PM
I wouldn't put Stallone in there , he is so so imo horrible

unless he plays Rambo or Rocky he looks out of place.
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Post by: The_Punisher on April 01, 2014, 03:57:31 PM
isn't "Terminator 4: Grandpa forgot to wear Depends" coming out soon?
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Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
unless he plays Rambo or Rocky he looks out of place.

Great in "Copland."
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Post by: Megalodon on April 01, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
Great in "Copland."

Yes. Stallone is a talented guy. He wrote a movie that was nominated for 10 Academy awards and won 3. He's stellar as stellar goes.
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Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2014, 04:10:01 PM
Yes. Stallone is a talented guy. He wrote a movie that was nominated for 10 Academy awards and won 3. He's stellar as stellar goes.

I think he's talented as well.
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Post by: Quickerblade on April 01, 2014, 04:10:24 PM
Great in "Copland."

Awesome in Copland.
I cringe when I watch expendables 2 when he start his dialogue.
I liked Demolition Man but his acting was mehhh.. Lock up was Ok.

he always feels the need to raise his voice cause of the way he speaks and its never sounds natural.

in Rocky/Rambo he barely spoke, except for the ending of first blood which I loved his speech. I didn't like the Rambo 2 ending speech.
Cobra he was OK he never raised his voice, I think its as he gets older he feels he has to convey to cameras.

nevertheless I love the guy.
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Post by: Megalodon on April 01, 2014, 04:14:52 PM
This was a classic scene in Rocky 6. Maybe overall Rocky 6 was not a classic movie but this scene was:


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Post by: The Ugly on April 01, 2014, 04:15:49 PM
Awesome in Copland.
I cringe when I watch expendables 2 when he start his dialogue.
I liked Demolition Man but his acting was mehhh.. Lock up was Ok.

he always feels the need to raise his voice cause of the way he speaks and its never sounds natural.

in Rocky/Rambo he barely spoke, except for the ending of first blood which I loved his speech. I didn't like the Rambo 2 ending speech.
Cobra he was OK he never raised his voice, I think its as he gets older he feels he has to convey to cameras.

nevertheless I love the guy.

I really don't like 90% of the crap he's done, but I still think he can be good. He just keeps choosing shit roles. Maybe that's all he's offered or what he expects audiences want to see. It would make sense, I guess.
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Post by: Nails on April 01, 2014, 04:20:47 PM
poor arnold, and he made his rounds, he was promoting the shit out of it, was everywhere.


that fat tamale torta he fucked really fucked his shit up
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Post by: Quickerblade on April 01, 2014, 04:24:35 PM
I really don't like 90% of the crap he's done, but I still think he can be good. He just keeps choosing shit roles. Maybe that's all he's offered or what he expects audiences want to see. It would make sense, I guess.

I love Stallone, so im biased, but I know a lot of people share your opinion, which I respect.
he motivated me a lot when I was younger, so its hard to bash him.
Stallone even hates his own performances, he says it himself in interviews, he may never be a huge US box office draw but in Europe, Middle east, south America even Australia he is loved..except for Escaple plan which went straight to DVD..I l enjoyed that movie, internationally it did well.
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Post by: Megalodon on April 01, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
I love Stallone, so im biased, but I know a lot of people share your opinion, which I respect.
he motivated me a lot when I was younger, so its hard to bash him.
Stallone even hates his own performances, he says it himself in interviews, he may never be a huge US box office draw but in Europe, Middle east, south America even Australia he is loved..except for Escaple plan which went straight to DVD..I l enjoyed that movie, internationally it did well.


Movie makers are increasingly trying to appeal to the overseas market, particularly China. They actually cater movie themes and dialouge to that audience. Stallone's Bullet to The Head was TEDIOUS in my opinion but it probably made money overseas.

Even movies like The Avengers change/cater their scripts towards Asian audiences. It is a newer trend and why some of the 'cheesier' movies(in US mindset) can even be made.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 01, 2014, 04:42:51 PM
There are many teenagers today that don't have a clue who Arnold Schwarzenegger is. I guess Arnold doesn't believe that its better to burn out then fade away :-\
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Post by: Nails on April 01, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
truth is, blame it on HDTV and BLU-Rays

 
who the fuck wants to drop all that cash for 2 hours of maybe ill enjoy it maybe its a piss in the toilet
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Post by: Quickerblade on April 01, 2014, 05:07:43 PM
truth is, blame it on HDTV and BLU-Rays

 
who the fuck wants to drop all that cash for 2 hours of maybe ill enjoy it maybe its a piss in the toilet
just pirate bay it. seriously. I only watch movie if i'm convinced its going to be good.
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Post by: Stan Diego on April 01, 2014, 05:30:57 PM
"The big money for Arnold is made back on DVD sales overseas," says casting director Bonnie Gillespie, author of "Self-Management for Actors." "He's untouchable."

Although underperforming at the U.S. box office - debuting at number four on the box office chart with $9,885,732 from 2,883 theaters and ultimately grossing only $25,132,228 domestically, Escape Plan was an international box-office success - debuting at first place in several Asian and European markets, with the total international gross more than doubling its $50 million budget at $112,192,336, totaling up to a worldwide gross of $137,324,564.

He still makes the movie studios money. Movie studios like making money
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Post by: Nails on April 01, 2014, 05:41:38 PM
the only shit that makes money in the theater nowadays is kids movies, cartoons is where the money is at in theaters nowadays
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Post by: Quickerblade on April 01, 2014, 05:42:24 PM
"The big money for Arnold is made back on DVD sales overseas," says casting director Bonnie Gillespie, author of "Self-Management for Actors." "He's untouchable."

Although underperforming at the U.S. box office - debuting at number four on the box office chart with $9,885,732 from 2,883 theaters and ultimately grossing only $25,132,228 domestically, Escape Plan was an international box-office success - debuting at first place in several Asian and European markets, with the total international gross more than doubling its $50 million budget at $112,192,336, totaling up to a worldwide gross of $137,324,564.

He still makes the movie studios money. Movie studios like making money
it depends how much the distributors paid the studios isn't it?
I always thought the stuidos sold the movie to US and international distributors and the distributors had to market the movie and the rest of that.
I think sly and Arnold never lose, they still get paid.
EXpendables 3 will make a killing.
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Post by: wolfrittner on April 01, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
poor arnold, and he made his rounds, he was promoting the shit out of it, was everywhere.


that fat tamale torta he fucked really fucked his shit up
Yep, she really did! She must be very proud of herself. She ruined Master Arnolds marriage and movie carrier with her fat Mexican ass!
 Damn that must blow big time..
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Post by: wolfrittner on April 01, 2014, 05:48:55 PM
I watched UNFORGIVEN on cable again yesterday for the 50th time... what a great movie.

(http://oscarmovs.com/unforgiven2.jpg)

One of the best ever. Clint did this after he was 1000years old. Arnolds only a hundred and fucking sucks..
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Post by: wolfrittner on April 01, 2014, 05:57:05 PM
I think Arnold should do Red Heat sequel. With Belushi 30 years later. At least it would be realistic. Now that they are both old and have Alzheimer's!
 Its my fav. Arnold movie by the way.
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Post by: Stan Diego on April 01, 2014, 06:01:51 PM
it depends how much the distributors paid the studios isn't it?
I always thought the stuidos sold the movie to US and international distributors and the distributors had to market the movie and the rest of that.
I think sly and Arnold never lose, they still get paid.
EXpendables 3 will make a killing.

Studios typically take in about 40% of the revenue from overseas releases. For major US studios a movie breaks even if it makes twice its production budget worldwide.
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Post by: wolfrittner on April 02, 2014, 03:10:42 AM
Sure they always make money! But for Arnold not to be on top is big deal! He is used to be Numero Uno!! This is very hard on his ego! That's why he is only 5'8" now.  He is shrinking literally! In his mind nd everyone elses he is done with! he cant show any success! But  next to Ralf Moller he still looks good!!
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Post by: Quickerblade on April 02, 2014, 03:54:22 AM
Sure they always make money! But for Arnold not to be on top is big deal! He is used to be Numero Uno!! This is very hard on his ego! That's why he is only 5'8" now.  He is shrinking literally! In his mind nd everyone elses he is done with! he cant show any success! But  next to Ralf Moller he still looks good!!

he is not that dumb, he knows his kids don't even watch his new flicks.
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Post by: Thin Lizzy on April 02, 2014, 04:57:36 AM
the only shit that makes money in the theater nowadays is kids movies, cartoons is where the money is at in theaters nowadays

The home experience, bigger, better tvs and sound systems, has gotten better. The theatre experience, endless previews and morons babbling on cellphones, has gotten worse.

Movie theaters are on the verge of becoming relics of the past. They won't be missed.
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Post by: Radical Plato on April 02, 2014, 05:11:39 AM
Like a lot of men, marriage ruined Arnold.  He should have never married in the first place.
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Post by: Simple Simon on April 02, 2014, 05:14:10 AM
Like a lot of men, marriage ruined Arnold.  He should have never married in the first place.
Lol, that marriage got him into places he wouldnt have got without it.
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Post by: Radical Plato on April 02, 2014, 05:20:36 AM
Lol, that marriage got him into places he wouldnt have got without it.
Places he didn't belong.  Arnold's life was the ultimate bachelor lifestyle until he married Maria.  He then lost his way, this is why he has returned to movies and where he left of. 
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Post by: Simple Simon on April 02, 2014, 05:41:12 AM
Places he didn't belong.  Arnold's life was the ultimate bachelor lifestyle until he married Maria.  He then lost his way, this is why he has returned to movies and where he left of. 
Regardless of him "belonging" he got there because of his marriage, stop throweing daft strawman arguments into the mix, theres no need.
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Post by: visualizeperfection on April 02, 2014, 06:14:55 AM
Regardless of him "belonging" he got there because of his marriage, stop throweing daft strawman arguments into the mix, theres no need.

Ekul is getbig's "special" little guy.
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Post by: trapz101 on April 02, 2014, 06:40:36 AM
Yes but when Eastwood aged he went into a different direction on the kind of films he was making,  Arnold should do the same thing

It's like Eastwood coming back to do Dirty Harry 2 at his current age, not believable at all...

No comparison but Arnold should get a clue but hey, he's still making good money worldwide on his films

x2,eastwood acting is not that good maybe only 4/10 but he's in the right movies and he can direct award winning films
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Post by: Radical Plato on April 02, 2014, 07:28:37 AM
Regardless of him "belonging" he got there because of his marriage, stop throweing daft strawman arguments into the mix, theres no need.
There's no argument.  I simply stated how marriage wussified Arnold, marriage wasnt good for him and he lost himself.  He was the ultimate bachelor and ultra rich film star, he wasn't suited to married life or politics or hobnobbing with the Elites.  You can tell he is far happier now the old ball and chain has gone.
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Post by: MORTALCOIL on April 02, 2014, 08:20:33 AM
Yes but when Eastwood aged he went into a different direction on the kind of films he was making,  Arnold should do the same thing

It's like Eastwood coming back to do Dirty Harry 2 at his current age, not believable at all...

No comparison but Arnold should get a clue but hey, he's still making good money worldwide on his films

 ;D

(http://www.cinemas-de-recherche.org/gimage/738654f3a52c873a62f56ada39421071.jpg)
(http://movieposters.2038.net/p/Enforcer,-The_2.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0b/Sudden_Impact.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SdmLtWDN1wc/UFAERHECqMI/AAAAAAAABIg/JynpTCEtDe0/s1600/deadpool+001.jpg)
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Post by: Megalodon on April 02, 2014, 08:28:15 AM
It looks like they went out of their way to make schwarzenegger look like Eastwood in the poster.
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 02, 2014, 08:29:18 AM
Like a lot of men, marriage ruined Arnold.  He should have never married in the first place.



5:40.  Look at me!  I'm a single man!
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Post by: Montague on April 02, 2014, 01:33:26 PM
So, looking at his next three films that are lined up, it appears he's going back to the roles that were most successful for him:

The Legend of Conan (announced)
Triplets (announced)
Terminator: Genesis (pre-production)


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Post by: Montague on April 02, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
Of course, we'll have to endure one more gem before we get back to the classics:


Maggie (2014)

A teenage girl in the Midwest becomes infected by an outbreak of a disease that slowly turns the infected into zombies.