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I need a new program.
How's Max Ot?
thnaks.
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I need a new program.
How's Max Ot?
thnaks.
very good, however..........
the low reps will kill your joints, and although your strength will improve, your size gains will not be as impressive due to intensity range that targets rate coding improvements morso than hypertrophy.
if you lift in the 5-8 rep range and keep everything else the same you will get far better results with no joint issues.
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very good, however..........
the low reps will kill your joints, and although your strength will improve, your size gains will not be as impressive due to intensity range that targets rate coding improvements morso than hypertrophy.
if you lift in the 5-8 rep range and keep everything else the same you will get far better results with no joint issues.
thanks.
I already have joint problems, so that probably should be a reasin not to do it.
Any other suggestion?
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I need a new program.
How's Max Ot?
thnaks.
ummm, bs? :D
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I need a new program.
How's Max Ot?
thnaks.
HST = great.
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maybe pick another sport.
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ignore everything fatpanda says about training and diet. not hating at all bro but you've spent 5 years talking about your obesity and done fuck all about it. your fatness owns your mind and clouds your judgement. you're obviously so insecure and obsessional about it that even term yourse'f "fat" panter. when you pmed that pic of u to doggcrapp -- and he started a thread saying look at this fat mofo -- you lost the ounce of credibility you may have had left.
seriously bro, no need to type a tearful and tremblin with anger response -- i'm not hatin, just warning people that when you type "advices" it is coming from a morbidly obese man sitting in a potato sack suit.
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thanks.
I already have joint problems, so that probably should be a reasin not to do it.
Any other suggestion?
do it, just use the 5-8 rep range instead ;) your joints will be fine, and you will love it.
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ignore everything fatpanda says about training and diet. not hating at all bro but you've spent 5 years talking about your obesity and done fuck all about it. your fatness owns your mind and clouds your judgement. you're obviously so insecure and obsessional about it that even term yourse'f "fat" panter. when you pmed that pic of u to doggcrapp -- and he started a thread saying look at this fat mofo -- you lost the ounce of credibility you may have had left.
seriously bro, no need to type a tearful and tremblin with anger response -- i'm not hatin, just warning people that when you type "advices" it is coming from a morbidly obese man sitting in a potato sack suit.
hahahaha hi alex.
how insecure must you be? a fat man creating a gimmick to attack a guy about being fat ?
hahahahaha priceless
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ignore everything fatpanda says about training and diet. not hating at all bro but you've spent 5 years talking about your obesity and done fuck all about it. your fatness owns your mind and clouds your judgement. you're obviously so insecure and obsessional about it that even term yourse'f "fat" panter. when you pmed that pic of u to doggcrapp -- and he started a thread saying look at this fat mofo -- you lost the ounce of credibility you may have had left.
seriously bro, no need to type a tearful and tremblin with anger response -- i'm not hatin, just warning people that when you type "advices" it is coming from a morbidly obese man sitting in a potato sack suit.
Any idea on what a good training could be?
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ummm, bs? :D
How so? Please elaborate.
HST = great.
Been there, done that. Comsumes too much time.
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Been there, done that. Comsumes too much time.
Takes less time than MaxOT.
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HST = great.
i got good gains on hst, but it burned me out.
also i feel there are quite a few holes in its theory. i.e. higher rep ranges, strategic deconditioning etc
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Any idea on what a good training could be?
what u after DK? u want a cookie cutter programme or something more specialized?
i'd say a lot would depend on what you've been doing, the type of training you instinctively like, the stuff you've found has delivered the best results.
some guys change it up a lot and some others just change very little and concentrate on a few big exercises and getting a fraction better at them each time.
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what u after DK? u want a cookie cutter programme or something more specialized?
i'd say a lot would depend on what you've been doing, the type of training you instinctively like, the stuff you've found has delivered the best results.
some guys change it up a lot and some others just change very little and concentrate on a few big exercises and getting a fraction better at them each time.
some guys like yourself alex just take steroids and eat everything in sight. ;)
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ot is always good,i prefer canabis though
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Takes less time than MaxOT.
How so?
MaxOT = 30mins-40-mins WO.
HST with 90% workload takes you a few hours to do a workout, at least in the Cluster HST. It was also the worst thing i ever did for my health and my joints, did make some good gains though.
i got good gains on hst, but it burned me out.
also i feel there are quite a few holes in its theory. i.e. higher rep ranges, strategic deconditioning etc
same here, i was close to death after some HST workouts.
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Stick to pushups and Bodyweight squats
Not everybody's physique responds to weights
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I need a new program.
How's Max Ot?
thnaks.
I have been looking for a new chest routine as well
I am thinking about 8 x 8 or 10 x 10 for incline presses, thoughts?
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what u after DK? u want a cookie cutter programme or something more specialized?
i'd say a lot would depend on what you've been doing, the type of training you instinctively like, the stuff you've found has delivered the best results.
some guys change it up a lot and some others just change very little and concentrate on a few big exercises and getting a fraction better at them each time.
i did a 5 day split of giant sets for about 1 1/2 years until january, then did the 12 week TRX program. After this, doing only arms somehow sucks. on the other hand, the giant sets fitted me pretty good.
At least i think i will change the split to doing more than one muscle group in each training, then maybe training each muscle group every 5 to 7 days....
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How so?
MaxOT = 30mins-40-mins WO.
HST with 90% workload takes you a few hours to do a workout, at least in the Cluster HST. It was also the worst thing i ever did for my health and my joints, did make some good gains though.
same here, i was close to death after some HST workouts.
i packed in lifting for 3 months after hst. i kept getting colds and flu's as well.
fucking hated it.
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i used it for more or less 8 months to 1 year, it was great, specially at the first months..i never had joint problems, in fact i used to have a lot and since i started Max - OT it stoped completely, but i did all the warm up sets by the book, and exactly as the protocol indicates you. Its really strange when you go already to the max on the first set and you dont feel any pain in the joints after all!!! (well, have in mind you already done like 5 warm up sets to this point)
My stenght went up a LOT, and it felt great to be on this program, but the size gains stoped after some time .You have to rotate your exercises a lot so your body doesnt get used to it, and you have to incorporate the weeks off as the protocol tell you...
my advice would be: use it, its great, but just for like 2 months at max (or like the 12 - 16 weeks they recomend you if im not mistaken). After that go to a normal program (or with normal to high set program). I think this way it can be great to use Max OT
one of the best thing is that you are done in like 30 min!!! ;D
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Stick to pushups and Bodyweight squats
Not everybody's physique responds to weights
I did the TRX 12 week military program, only bodyweight stuff and it was the best training i ever had.
I felt more strength, fitter than ever and more energetic. I am done with the 12 weeks for 3 weeks now, back in the gym and it sucks. Pushing weights is boring. :-\ :-\
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i did a 5 day split of giant sets for about 1 1/2 years until january, then did the 12 week TRX program. After this, doing only arms somehow sucks. on the other hand, the giant sets fitted me pretty good.
At least i think i will change the split to doing more than one muscle group in each training, then maybe training each muscle group every 5 to 7 days....
then i don 't think giving it 6-8 weeks would hurt. might be time to try a strength cycle of sorts.
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i used it for more or less 8 months to 1 year, it was great, specially at the first months..i never had joint problems, in fact i used to have a lot and since i started Max - OT it stoped completely, but i did all the warm up sets by the book, and exactly as the protocol indicates you. Its really strange when you go already to the max on the first set and you dont feel any pain in the joints after all!!! (well, have in mind you already done like 5 warm up sets to this point)
My stenght went up a LOT, and it felt great to be on this program, but the size gains stoped after some time .You have to rotate your exercises a lot so your body doesnt get used to it, and you have to incorporate the weeks off as the protocol tell you...
my advice would be: use it, its great, but just for like 2 months at max (or like the 12 - 16 weeks they recomend you if im not mistaken). After that go to a normal program (or with normal to high set program). I think this way it can be great to use Max OT
one of the best thing is that you are done in like 30 min!!! ;D
From my personal experience, i would have said to do the MaxOT for mx 8 weeks as well. More wouldn't help me much i fear, just destroy my joints.
then i don 't think giving it 6-8 weeks would hurt. might be time to try a strength cycle of sorts.
thing is i just came out from a 12 week strength training... :'( :'(
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thing is i just came out from a 12 week strength training... :'( :'(
ah, i musta misread. i thought u meant giant sets as in big sets with higher reps and light weight.
my feeling is that for you to post this here and ask means you're ready for 6-8 weeks doing something pretty different to what you've been on.
sometimes, switching between the polar opposites of training can help you get the best from both. certainly relieves the boredom.
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ah, i musta misread. i thought u meant giant sets as in big sets with higher reps and light weight.
my feeling is that for you to post this here and ask means you're ready for 6-8 weeks doing something pretty different to what you've been on.
sometimes, switching between the polar opposites of training can help you get the best from both. certainly relieves the boredom.
I think we misunderstand each other.
I did 1 1/2 years Giant sets until January, then 12 weeks TRX strength program, now i am back in the gym after 12 weeks TRX bodyweight training and the gym sucks.
I went back to giant sets, but the split with only one body part per day is boring now. :'( :'(
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dk, do everything in the max-ot maunal but use the 5-8 rep range.
you will not be disappointed.
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i got good gains on hst, but it burned me out.
also i feel there are quite a few holes in its theory. i.e. higher rep ranges, strategic deconditioning etc
Interesting. Debussey has heard that a certain Gary Busey got his best gains (especially strength) on HST, while feeling more energy during the rest of the day and in the gym.
How so?
MaxOT = 30mins-40-mins WO.
HST with 90% workload takes you a few hours to do a workout, at least in the Cluster HST. It was also the worst thing i ever did for my health and my joints, did make some good gains though.
Debussey has heard that it can be done in less than a few hours.
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dk, do everything in the max-ot maunal but use the 5-8 rep range.
you will not be disappointed.
I'll give it a try, thanks.
Interesting. Debussey has heard that a certain Gary Busey got his best gains (especially strength) on HST, while feeling more energy during the rest of the day and in the gym.
Debussey has heard that it can be done in less than a few hours.
Thanks, Debussey. I appreciate your wisdom.
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I also did great with 12-8-4 HST, although I only did 4 and single reps where I felt it would benefit me.
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I think we misunderstand each other.
I did 1 1/2 years Giant sets until January, then 12 weeks TRX strength program, now i am back in the gym after 12 weeks TRX bodyweight training and the gym sucks.
I went back to giant sets, but the split with only one body part per day is boring now. :'( :'(
I don;t get how u can built serious strength from just bodyweight exercise. I would consider a 5x5 programme for strength or a traditional "bodybuilder" programme for hypertrophy. obviously these things can overlap and different people will get different results.
regarding max-ot . i do know a guy that tried it and liked it. got good strength gains and still trains in a similar style.
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I'll give it a try, thanks.
Thanks, Debussey. I appreciate your wisdom.
For some reason, HST = less strain on the joints for Gary Busey, which = very good if you = into other explosive sports that can wreck havoc on your joints/tendons.
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I don;t get how u can built serious strength from just bodyweight exercise. I would consider a 5x5 programme for strength or a traditional "bodybuilder" programme for hypertrophy. obviously these things can overlap and different people will get different results.
regarding max-ot . i do know a guy that tried it and liked it. got good strength gains and still trains in a similar style.
hehe, look into my training log on the training board, the bodyweigth strength program was really good.
i'll try MaxOT for a few weeks and see what i can get of it.
thanks a lot.
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I love max-ot. I alternate between that and a power/hypertrophy split. However, it didn't do much for my legs or bi's.
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I don;t get how u can built serious strength from just bodyweight exercise.
gymnasts are considered the strongest athletes in the world pound for pound - from only bodyweight training.
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I love max-ot. I alternate between that and a power/hypertrophy split. However, it didn't do much for my legs or bi's.
cool, thanks.
what are you proposing for hypertrophy?
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gymnasts are considered the strongest athletes in the world pound for pound - from only bodyweight training.
i agree, bodyweight exercises are underrated. handstand push ups, one legged squats and such things are exercises that only few people can do.
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very good, however..........
the low reps will kill your joints, and although your strength will improve, your size gains will not be as impressive due to intensity range that targets rate coding improvements morso than hypertrophy.
if you lift in the 5-8 rep range and keep everything else the same you will get far better results with no joint issues.
yes because everyone knows that the difference in joint pain between 5 reps and 7 reps is HUGE. ::)
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yes because everyone knows that the difference in joint pain between 5 reps and 7 reps is HUGE. ::)
4 reps-8 reps is quite huge.
like your gut.
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4 reps-8 reps is quite huge.
like your gut.
as huge as this "man"? ;D
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as huge as this "man"? ;D
lol i thought vito got whacked for being a fag and bringing shame on the family?
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yes because everyone knows that the difference in joint pain between 5 reps and 7 reps is HUGE. ::)
Here is our expert again....
Ever thought about that not all humans are exaclty the same?
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as huge as this "man"? ;D
hows parole treating you these days Dave ?
burglary is no joke, neither is DUI or a&b.
do you find it effects your job chances ?
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hows parole treating you these days Dave ?
burglary is no joke, neither is DUI or a&b.
do you find it effects your job chances ?
hahaha, wouldn't know, never been on parole. :D
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hahaha, wouldn't know, never been on parole. :D
so you did all your time?
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so you did all your time?
never done any "time".
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never done any "time".
You're getting quite defensive there, Dave.
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so you did all your time?
It needs to be said... People, be very, very careful with your home address. Don't give him any ideas.
We want to suppot Dave in taking small steps towards rehabilitation from his criminal ways.
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You're getting quite defensive there, Dave.
how so anonymous one?
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never done any "time".
is that because you beat the female witness ?
i hear thats a hobby of yours - beating women.
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It needs to be said... People, be very, very careful with your home address. Don't give him any ideas.
We want to suppot Dave in taking small steps towards rehabilitation from his criminal ways.
I doubt he would come over to germany to break into my apartment.
how so anonymous one?
Whowow, easy easy.
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is that because you beat the female witness ?
i hear thats a hobby of yours - beating women.
only your mom and sister when they don't earn enough from hooking. :D
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only your mom and sister when they don't earn enough from hooking. :D
::) ::) ::)
flt
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only your mom and sister when they don't earn enough from hooking. :D
lol this is the old sarc ;D
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only your mom and sister when they don't earn enough from hooking. :D
at least you're admitting you have a problem.
i hear thats the first sign of recovery - admiting you have a problem.
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I doubt he would come over to germany to break into my apartment.
Don't be so sure. He seems to be looking for your name already. That may well be the first step.
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at least you're admitting you have a problem.
i hear thats the first sign of recovery - admiting you have a problem.
so you're admitting your mom and sister are prostitutes?
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obesepanda getting destroyed.
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Don't be so sure. He seems to be looking for your name already. That may well be the first step.
lol, he doesn't even get out of his Trailer Park, i even doubt he'll leave the US in his life.
obesepanda getting destroyed.
Not at all, Dave is making an ass of himself like always. But thanks for your tuning in, Dave.
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obesepanda getting destroyed.
lol this guy has been torn so many assholes that he must have at least ten times more chance of getting colon cancer
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so you're admitting your mom and sister are prostitutes?
i'm admiting your mom and sister have a problem................j udging by your police record of beating women.