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Title: Lat injection
Post by: bigmikecox on June 12, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
Other than Bostin Lloyd, anyone here have any experience with a lat injection?
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 12, 2015, 10:19:16 AM
it's rather easy. only drawback is to draw back the syringe to check for blood but even then, it's nothing to worry about. Just try to keep the muscle relaxed and enter at an angle you can actually push down on the pluger as it can be hard to do that while not contracting the pinned muscle.
Try it pre workout if possible.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: bigmikecox on June 12, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
Sweet!!!
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: tatoo on June 12, 2015, 12:33:28 PM
wish I could reach mine. I could use a fresh site
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 12, 2015, 12:35:16 PM
wish I could reach mine. I could use a fresh site

lats too small? heh, heh...
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 12, 2015, 01:29:48 PM
wish I could reach mine. I could use a fresh site
lats too small? heh, heh...
hahaha
come on
you dont have to pin them from the side
just flare them and put the needle in right from the front

i just jabbed 4ml into my left lat this morning
imo its actually a pretty good spot because you can see the veins very easily. pretty good since i never aspirate  :D

i only pin them the day after doing back though, because if you work / stretch them heavily right after or 1-2 days after the inject it gets really painful imo.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 12, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
hahaha
come on
you dont have to pin them from the side
just flare them and put the needle in right from the front

i just jabbed 4ml into my left lat this morning
imo its actually a pretty good spot because you can see the veins very easily. pretty good since i never aspirate  :D

i only pin them the day after doing back though, because if you work / stretch them heavily right after or 1-2 days after the inject it gets really painful imo.

and is what i meant my pining to be able to push the plunger down. Also a great reason to do a lat pose in front of a mirror and not have to feel like a total and compete tool after!
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 12, 2015, 01:41:59 PM
and is what i meant my pining to be able to push the plunger down. Also a great reason to do a lat pose in front of a mirror and not have to feel like a total and compete tool after!

ah, you dont have to feel that way
thats just a normal "front relaxed" pose man  :D
(http://i.imgur.com/nwHJayK.jpg)
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 12, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
ah, you dont have to feel that way
thats just a normal "front relaxed" pose man  :D
(http://i.imgur.com/nwHJayK.jpg)

As relaxed as having a baseball bat up your bunghole. Big end entered first.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: tatoo on June 12, 2015, 04:20:07 PM
lats too small? heh, heh...


haha!! I don't think they are. think my arms are short tho.  but fuck ive got 5 pen marks on my shirt now from trying. still don't think I could push the plunger. maybe that front shot like jizmo said. I always thought thatd be a good spot to try some seo in( not for me personally ritch, I swear to god man, my lats are huge I do a lot of machine work lol)
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 12, 2015, 07:13:46 PM

haha!! I don't think they are. think my arms are short tho.  but fuck ive got 5 pen marks on my shirt now from trying. still don't think I could push the plunger. maybe that front shot like jizmo said. I always thought thatd be a good spot to try some seo in( not for me personally ritch, I swear to god man, my lats are huge I do a lot of machine work lol)

Do a pec shot then, even easier!
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: tatoo on June 12, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Do a pec shot then, even easier!

where abouts on the pec have you hit?? I don't have much chest vascularity so I always pussed out. how many cc's??
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 12, 2015, 09:05:27 PM
where abouts on the pec have you hit?? I don't have much chest vascularity so I always pussed out. how many cc's??

I always go upper pec not too far on either ends but you have 2-3 spots for a few horizontal lines I'd say to keep the shots as pain free as possible. I've never shot the bottom pec as I am bottom pec heavy as is...
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 13, 2015, 12:28:30 AM
Do a pec shot then, even easier!
fuck, im scared to death
would probably never do that lol

well, get back at me in 2-3 years when i dont have any spots left to pin except for that lol
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: local hero on June 13, 2015, 12:50:35 AM
I don't fancy pec shots, they would be on my least likely list along side calves. .
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: f450 on June 13, 2015, 01:38:32 AM

haha!! I don't think they are. think my arms are short tho.  but fuck ive got 5 pen marks on my shirt now from trying. still don't think I could push the plunger. maybe that front shot like jizmo said. I always thought thatd be a good spot to try some seo in( not for me personally ritch, I swear to god man, my lats are huge I do a lot of machine work lol)

stand next to a door frame and use the frame to push the arm with the needle more towards the opposing lat. Easy as pie. Thank me later.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 13, 2015, 08:34:36 AM
Other than Bostin Lloyd, anyone here have any experience with a lat injection?

Yes as said they can be of good convenience and the only minor problem would be aspirating in an awkward position but that will just take a little bit of time to get used to as with anything else..No problem at all..

Bostin Loyd is a dumbfuck btw. Guy is on more gear than most pros and lost the monatari classic to 3 people that weren't even super-heavyweight like he was...he has the nerve to think that anyone would want to see another in-detail video of what he ran leading up to the show..

If anyone wants to look like shit whilst taking tons of gear, slin, hgh and peptides look no further.. VISIT BOSTIN LOYDS youtube channel.. ;)
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 13, 2015, 10:10:40 AM
stand next to a door frame and use the frame to push the arm with the needle more towards the opposing lat. Easy as pie. Thank me later.

I've read about that but just feel a small slip can totally fuck it up. Sometimes with just your hand it's hard to press out the gear. Finger tips are a must to make sure it goes in without some major force pressed down more on one side to then slip out of place and just cause some bad shot moments (if that is clearly described and you follow what I mean?...)
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 13, 2015, 12:21:03 PM
I've read about that but just feel a small slip can totally fuck it up. Sometimes with just your hand it's hard to press out the gear. Finger tips are a must to make sure it goes in without some major force pressed down more on one side to then slip out of place and just cause some bad shot moments (if that is clearly described and you follow what I mean?...)
put your vial on the stove for 30 seconds before injecting
the shit goes through SO much easier.
also use syringes as small as possible. less diameter = less pressure needed to be applied
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 13, 2015, 04:45:46 PM
put your vial on the stove for 30 seconds before injecting
the shit goes through SO much easier.
also use syringes as small as possible. less diameter = less pressure needed to be applied

I always heat up my oil! But it really cools down fast. 23 or 25g are my fav for shots. 25 for lat though, kinda small, gotta press too hard.

But telling ya... Pec shots are the easiest.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 13, 2015, 11:37:05 PM
I always heat up my oil! But it really cools down fast. 23 or 25g are my fav for shots. 25 for lat though, kinda small, gotta press too hard.

But telling ya... Pec shots are the easiest.
id be fuggin scared to put 4ml in my pec though :(
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: bigmikecox on June 16, 2015, 12:02:08 PM
id be fuggin scared to put 4ml in my pec though :(

Me too! But, delts and glutes are getting too much scar tissue and I need to find a new spot! Gonna try lats this week!

Thanks for the input
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: herefortheglitter on June 16, 2015, 12:19:25 PM
Me too! But, delts and glutes are getting too much scar tissue and I need to find a new spot! Gonna try lats this week!

Thanks for the input

Although I will never shoot my own lat, I am totally freaked out by this. Haha it just seems like such a sensitive area of the body.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 16, 2015, 12:26:15 PM
id be fuggin scared to put 4ml in my pec though :(

2 ml per side. 4ml would be distracting during the trainings.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: BEASTZ6 on June 20, 2015, 10:49:09 PM
I prefer pinning tricepts and delts. I use a 25 ga x 1" pin. I have too much scar tissue in my glutes and quads.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 21, 2015, 01:26:04 AM
to all the guys with scar tissue...
do you think it goes away over time if you stop hitting a certain spot for a couple weeks ? and do some foam rolling, deep tissue massage etc?

quads have always been my go to point, but after my last blast there were some days where i couldnt push any oil in for the hell of it, the muscle was just hard and the plunger wouldnt move a millimeter...
well, then i completely stopped pinning quads for about 2 months or so and now it seems to flow much easier again...

i only did some "foam rolling" (actually used a hard deodorant tin for that) but not really anything else apart from massaging

or do you think scar tissue is / becomes permanent over time?

my life is gonna suck in 10 years then  :D
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 21, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
to all the guys with scar tissue...
do you think it goes away over time if you stop hitting a certain spot for a couple weeks ? and do some foam rolling, deep tissue massage etc?

quads have always been my go to point, but after my last blast there were some days where i couldnt push any oil in for the hell of it, the muscle was just hard and the plunger wouldnt move a millimeter...
well, then i completely stopped pinning quads for about 2 months or so and now it seems to flow much easier again...

i only did some "foam rolling" (actually used a hard deodorant tin for that) but not really anything else apart from massaging

or do you think scar tissue is / becomes permanent over time?

my life is gonna suck in 10 years then  :D

It is NOT permanent by any means but can take quite a while depending on frequency could take up to multiple years sometimes but NOT permanent by any means
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Jizmo on June 21, 2015, 12:24:17 PM
It is NOT permanent by any means but can take quite a while depending on frequency could take up to multiple years sometimes but NOT permanent by any means
do you think intramuscular scar tissue is any different from skin scar tissue?
i mean (big) scars on your skin do have a different "consistency" and are somewhat dry and firm...
however i dont really see how small incisions from an injection could cause real "scarring" in the muscle.
you cant ever see anything ON the skin where you inject either, much too small. maybe really small wounds heal completely...

when i put the needle in and it sounds like im chewing on cap'n crunch cereal that sometimes makes me ponder though   :D
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: Stan Diego on June 21, 2015, 08:28:44 PM
Although I will never shoot my own lat, I am totally freaked out by this. Haha it just seems like such a sensitive area of the body.

Thought you were supposed to be a female.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 21, 2015, 08:31:33 PM
Thought you were supposed to be a female.

she proved it with a pic and message, so that was done.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: herefortheglitter on June 23, 2015, 09:32:24 AM
Thought you were supposed to be a female.

Yes, hence why I said "ALTHOUGH I WILL NEVER SHOOT MY OWN LAT".

Thanks ritch, as always.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 23, 2015, 09:35:19 AM
Yes, hence why I said "ALTHOUGH I WILL NEVER SHOOT MY OWN LAT".

Thanks ritch, as always.

High five!
you suffered enough upon the hands of mean people for a while, lol... I got your "tattoo'd back" anyday, lol!
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: herefortheglitter on June 23, 2015, 09:54:45 AM
High five!
you suffered enough upon the hands of mean people for a while, lol... I got your "tattoo'd back" anyday, lol!

I actually don't have any tattoos back there  :o I wanted to always be able to see them. Haha narcissistic much? Absolutely. I need to revive my "things I have seen at the gym thread" haha
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 23, 2015, 09:56:04 AM
I actually don't have any tattoos back there  :o I wanted to always be able to see them. Haha narcissistic much? Absolutely. I need to revive my "things I have seen at the gym thread" haha

The gym is never short on interesting sights and stories, lol...
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: herefortheglitter on June 23, 2015, 10:02:11 AM
The gym is never short on interesting sights and stories, lol...

This woman was holding onto the bar on the bench and doing these weird kick things. Another guy was legit swinging in the bar in the Smith Machine. I was so confused. Working my way up to the 500 club for the leg press.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 23, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
This woman was holding onto the bar on the bench and doing these weird kick things. Another guy was legit swinging in the bar in the Smith Machine. I was so confused. Working my way up to the 500 club for the leg press.

I've never used a leg press seriously, how does that compare to squatting 225?
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: herefortheglitter on June 24, 2015, 07:50:32 AM
I've never used a leg press seriously, how does that compare to squatting 225?

I can probably squat 200 for like 2 reps (haha mind you I am a short girl). I don't know the comps you are asking about but I do like the leg press.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 24, 2015, 08:09:00 PM
So I pinned 2ml in each lat, one on the first day, the other on the next
Minimal PIP. Contained 1ml tren ace 75 and 1ml mast prop 100. Virgin muscles
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 24, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
I can probably squat 200 for like 2 reps (haha mind you I am a short girl). I don't know the comps you are asking about but I do like the leg press.

Not bad, a vid would be kick ass!
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 24, 2015, 10:45:58 PM
I can probably squat 200 for like 2 reps (haha mind you I am a short girl). I don't know the comps you are asking about but I do like the leg press.

What's your leg development like?
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: herefortheglitter on June 25, 2015, 05:45:41 AM
Not bad, a vid would be kick ass!

I actually plan to post a video at some point in the late summer when I'm at max strength. Hoping to be able to deadlift 300, leg press 500 & squat 200 for reps. We shall see.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 25, 2015, 09:19:43 PM
I actually plan to post a video at some point in the late summer when I'm at max strength. Hoping to be able to deadlift 300, leg press 500 & squat 200 for reps. We shall see.

not sure it's possible to deadlift 300 for reps. I'd be shocked to see a woman do 3 plates for 10 reps.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 26, 2015, 12:48:35 AM
not sure it's possible to deadlift 300 for reps. I'd be shocked to see a woman do 3 plates for 10 reps.

Nah it's pretty common
All these are from the same gym
It's not 3 plates for 10 reps but all capable of pulling 3 plates for reps




Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 26, 2015, 07:38:37 AM
Nah it's pretty common
All these are from the same gym
It's not 3 plates for 10 reps but all capable of pulling 3 plates for reps






see the guy lying on the floor in the 3rd vid. Jesus man, since when do you do that in a gym???

Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 27, 2015, 05:12:22 AM
see the guy lying on the floor in the 3rd vid. Jesus man, since when do you do that in a gym???



He is massaging out muscle knots in his quads prior to training
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 27, 2015, 06:59:32 AM
He is massaging out muscle knots in his quads prior to training

Odd. Foam rolling right  before training, weakens me.
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 27, 2015, 07:36:05 AM
Odd. Foam rolling right  before training, weakens me.

What are you foam rolling? What implement are you using?
If you have knots, you need to address them. I've never noticed a performance decrease from rolling out before I train
I don't use a bit of foam though I put a 50kg cylindrical dumbbell on my thighs and roll it back and forth that way

Foam is too soft
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 27, 2015, 07:38:26 AM
What are you foam rolling? What implement are you using?
If you have knots, you need to address them. I've never noticed a performance decrease from rolling out before I train
I don't use a bit of foam though I put a 50kg cylindrical dumbbell on my thighs and roll it back and forth that way

Foam is too soft

I use a normal to hard roller. Thing is, when I get to doing it, I got lots of work to do. I mean like at least 15 min per quad. I feel it for days. The tear drop, side of it as well often needs work and I hate doing this shit like you have no idea.

After everything else needed to look good, the hell with adding new stuff to an already overbearing routine. Just how I see it...
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: oni on June 27, 2015, 09:21:11 PM
I use a normal to hard roller. Thing is, when I get to doing it, I got lots of work to do. I mean like at least 15 min per quad. I feel it for days. The tear drop, side of it as well often needs work and I hate doing this shit like you have no idea.

After everything else needed to look good, the hell with adding new stuff to an already overbearing routine. Just how I see it...

If you have knots you should do it every day tbh
Maybe really nail it in your next cruise. 2 weeks will be enough to remove it mate
Title: Re: Lat injection
Post by: ritch on June 27, 2015, 09:36:17 PM
If you have knots you should do it every day tbh
Maybe really nail it in your next cruise. 2 weeks will be enough to remove it mate
Your suggestion of doing this in my next cruise is very smart and think I will do that. You never realize how knoted up you are until you start foam rolling, it's almost discouraging to be aware of all you have to do to get rid of the knots.

Every time I get rid of the hot spots, I tell myself "ok, gonna keep up the maintenance this time..." but never do. I gotta stay a good minute on each hot spot then roll around, find another and get it out. Not sure if you had to go through that, but just getting off the roller is so painful I often lie on the floor for minutes after I'm done.

I need a fan on the floor to keep me from sweating and just holding my balance for so long is a "workout" in it's own.

But when you feel what it's like to walk around knot free, get those trainings in afterwards and feel how the legs just work/contract better, it's hard not be take interest in it.