A pit bull terrier mauls a five-year-old girl to death

[chaos]

Pit Bulls are not a vicious breed though.  They can be abused and turned vicious, but they are not by nature a human aggressive dog, they  were bred to not have ANY human aggression.  I understand that many dumbasses abuse the abilities of this dog, but they are one of the most popular breeds in america, if not  THE most popular breed.  This is a situation that could have been avoided, but the OWNER did not respond to a situation as he should have.  he was warned about the dogs behavior and did nothing.  The owner should have taken action, but didn't. 

I know i can come up with statistics about pit bulls being safe till we're both blue in the face and you won't change your mind, you'll just remain ignorant and close minded. 

you're right, but you'll never convince these guys. it would be like trying to convince 240 that..ohhh nevermind.

[gtbro1]

  This thread is gona make body88's blood preasure sky rocket.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

hahaha yes.

[Bindare_Dundat]

I know i can come up with statistics about pit bulls being safe till we're both blue in the face and you won't change your mind, you'll just remain ignorant and close minded. 

Exactly. Theres no point in going any further with this topic when you ignorant dickheads like Tre stereotyping owners of certain breeds. You'll only hear about the small minority of shits that own these dogs cause it sells, but you'll never hear of the millions of responsible owners out there.

These owners must have been gangsters too. 

Choclate lab attack.
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/December/Labrador2ndattack2006.pdf

Lab mix attack.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/December/possiblelabmix1206.pdf

Lab attack.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/June/Fatalattackd4dogs0606.pdf

More lab mauling attacks.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/OtherBreedBites/2006/May06/2006%20_%20Authorities%20say%204-year-old%20recovering%20...pdf

[Hedgehog]

I agree to some extent.

The simple fact of the matter is that this breed attracts no-hoper's, losers, low life's, wannabe gangster types, which in turn bring out exactly what there were originally bred for.

Anyone with modern sensibilities cannot refute this. Bad boys, wannabe gangsters don't keep golden retrievers.

People should accept the sacrifice of banning this breed IMO. They should accept that the value of the lives saved by banning this breed is greater than keeping the breed legal.

Of-course many dog lovers will jump in this thread claiming all responsibility lies on the hand of the owner and the breed is infact very nice.  I'm not refuting that Pitts are anymore aggressive than over breeds. That is NOT my point. I would love any lover of this breed to refute the FACT* that there's a correlation between the social demographic of the owners of this breed.

*Anyone who starts refuting facts should be sent to the funny farm.

Brilliant post.

-Hedge

[Drij]

Its a horrible thing that happened totally. But why do parents trust other people with the care and safety of their children? Big dogs and little kids usually doesn't mix. There is so much movement going on from the kid(s) it excites the dog.

[Fury]

Actually something happened with a dog when I was younger. When I was in the early years of elementary school, my parents had us stay with a babysitter every day for a few hours after school. They had a golden retriever that was one of the nicest dogs I've ever met. Well I was wrestling with the babysitter's kid on her couch one day and I pushed him on top of the sleeping dog at our feet by mistake. The dog jumped up completely startled out of his sleep and bit the kid in the face in a instinctive, reactionary bite to having an 70 pound kid falling on him. Ended up needing like 40-50 stitches and 3 surgeries for his face from the gashes. Could've easily had his eyes or throat ripped out. My parents said they wouldn't have sued if it was me that fell on the dog but who knows. She stopped baby sitting after that because of the accident. Realized it was too dangerous having a dog with children around.

[Hedgehog]

NS makes a perfect rational argument.

If we gain more from a ban of this breed than we lose, then it should be banned.

The same argument could be made for all dog breeds.

And it seems like the gains in lives and avoided injuries are unquestionable, no?

-Hedge

[TrapsMcLats]

NS makes a perfect rational argument.

If we gain more from a ban of this breed than we lose, then it should be banned.

The same argument could be made for all dog breeds.

And it seems like the gains in lives and avoided injuries are unquestionable, no?

-Hedge

Well, by that rationale, ban: cars, alcohol, cigs, fast food etc etc etc...

I agree that the breed attracts a bad crowd, but that is not their doing.  I would make a strong case that if a grand pit bull existed, he/she would say " i would request that all blacks, mexicans and wiggers stop buying and or breeding me, you people have done nothing but harm to my reputation.  Before you people got a hold of me, i had already been the official animal mascot of the us marine corp (used in extensive ad campaigns/propoganda for the USMC), the most popular breed in america, helen keller' guide dog, teddy roosevelt's favorite dog, jack johnsons favorite dog, the k9 star of the little rascals, the rca victor dog, the #1 dog used by US customs and an all around beloved dog.  I was bred to be loyal, loving, playful and hate only dogs, never people.  But then you people started messing with my breed standard, and breeding the aggressive one's, breeding the one's with big heads, breeding for the wrong reasons.  Then you put me in a rap video, then you started putting tatoos of me on your arms, and making me into an icon of toughness and violence when thats not what we are at all.  We're family dogs, horrible gaurd dogs and tired of dumbasses making us look bad."

[Hedgehog]

Well, by that rationale, ban: cars, alcohol, cigs, fast food etc etc etc...

I agree that the breed attracts a bad crowd, but that is not their doing.  I would make a strong case that if a grand pit bull existed, he/she would say " i would request that all blacks, mexicans and wiggers stop buying and or breeding me, you people have done nothing but harm to my reputation.  Before you people got a hold of me, i had already been the official animal mascot of the us marine corp (used in extensive ad campaigns/propoganda for the USMC), the most popular breed in america, helen keller' guide dog, teddy roosevelt's favorite dog, jack johnsons favorite dog, the k9 star of the little rascals, the rca victor dog, the #1 dog used by US customs and an all around beloved dog.  I was bred to be loyal, loving, playful and hate only dogs, never people.  But then you people started messing with my breed standard, and breeding the aggressive one's, breeding the one's with big heads, breeding for the wrong reasons.  Then you put me in a rap video, then you started putting tatoos of me on your arms, and making me into an icon of toughness and violence when thats not what we are at all.  We're family dogs, horrible gaurd dogs and tired of dumbasses making us look bad."

No.

Ban cigarettes. Not cars or fast food.

Perhaps alcohol should be banned, it helps people socialise, so it's not a clear cut case. But the positives of having cars and fast food clearly outweighs the negatives.

Not so with cigarettes.

And not so with pitbulls.

Especially since there are alternatives. There are many breeds that have a much more friendly behavior. Get yourself a Golden Retriever or a Collie. Those dogs are breeded to not be aggressive.

-Hedge

[Tre]

There are lab and golden retriever attacks on people... they may just be less publicized.  That woman who had the face transplant last year... the dog that chewed her face off was a chocolate lab.

She shouldn't have smeared food on her face.

[Nordic Superman]

She shouldn't have smeared food on her face.

I think the real story behind it is that she had collpased, and the dog was trying to revive her.

[freespirit]

I have nothing against pitbulls or any dog in particular. I don't have kids to, but if a dog would attack a kid of mine, the owner will get attacked by me. And yes, I will do time for that. No discussion.

[Nordic Superman]

I have nothing against pitbulls or any dog in particular. I don't have kids to, but if a dog would attack a kid of mine, the owner will get attacked by me. And yes, I will do time for that. No discussion.

Basically yes, same here.

I'd also want to attack the fucking dog too!

Then fuck his wife!

[Laura Lee]

Doberman's have been known to turn on their owners.    But I believe it's how a dog is brought up and treated.  Thugs will train their dogs to attack anything that seems like a threat.  A little child running around will appear to be a threat to a dog with this instilled in it.  The dog ultimately will have to be destroyed, which is truly sad as it didn't deserve such a life, and the owner should be prosecuted as 2nd or 3rd degree murder...no question.

Here is the most tame pit bull I have ever seen.  Her name is Dallas and I was completely intimidated by her size and appearance, but then won over by her friendliness and gentleness.  So much so that she is my dog Rocky's best friend...

[Parker]

 
 heard a single case where a Golden Retriever or Chocolate Lab mauled a kid to death.

In Elementary school I was attack by a chocolate lab during PE class. It grabbed my wrist and shook my arm. It scared the hell out of me. I was told don't run, but I did and the dog zeroed in on me. Guess what my elementary's school's mascot was. A Lab Retreiver. In Annapolis everybody has labs, being that it is a port. My parents had a lab when I was a baby, but the dog was aggressive towards me because it was jealous, and they were scared that it might harm me. Good thing they got rid of it, instead of me.

I have been bitten by standard poodles and German Shepards, I have been in the presence of Rotts and Pits, and never been attacked, not to say it won't happen, but I haven't had that experience. It has been said that, and I don't have the proof, but Cocker Spaniels, bite the most, wich I can beleive, because they are schitzo dogs,

[amc1980]

Say what you like about pitbulls, but they are doing an excellent job in keeping the council-estate population in check.

[gtbro1]

Doberman's have been known to turn on their owners.    But I believe it's how a dog is brought up and treated.  Thugs will train their dogs to attack anything that seems like a threat.  A little child running around will appear to be a threat to a dog with this instilled in it.  The dog ultimately will have to be destroyed, which is truly sad as it didn't deserve such a life, and the owner should be prosecuted as 2nd or 3rd degree murder...no question.

Here is the most tame pit bull I have ever seen.  Her name is Dallas and I was completely intimidated by her size and appearance, but then won over by her friendliness and gentleness.  So much so that she is my dog Rocky's best friend...

good looking dog. Looks ferocious.

[Laura Lee]

good looking dog. Looks ferocious.

She is the best dog.   

[gtbro1]

She is the best dog.   

I know they CAN be killers if they are made that way..but you would never know it just to look at their face.They look harmless.

[BroadStreetBruiser]

Let's murder all pets. The whole principle of keeping animals is dated. We dont' live in mines so we dont' need birds, we have exterminators so we don't need cats and we really don't need dogs since your wife can lick your balls after marriage.

[Nordic Superman]

In Elementary school I was attack by a chocolate lab during PE class. It grabbed my wrist and shook my arm. It scared the hell out of me. I was told don't run, but I did and the dog zeroed in on me. Guess what my elementary's school's mascot was. A Lab Retreiver. In Annapolis everybody has labs, being that it is a port. My parents had a lab when I was a baby, but the dog was aggressive towards me because it was jealous, and they were scared that it might harm me. Good thing they got rid of it, instead of me.

I have been bitten by standard poodles and German Shepards, I have been in the presence of Rotts and Pits, and never been attacked, not to say it won't happen, but I haven't had that experience. It has been said that, and I don't have the proof, but Cocker Spaniels, bite the most, wich I can beleive, because they are schitzo dogs,

Your affairs in the matter are an exception to the rule; which I pointed out from the start.

I guess the authorities are STUPID for ignoring the exceptions to the rule

Lets not forget the demographic of Getbig itself: wannabe muscle heads, actual muscle heads, gym rats and the unemployed scroungers (Diesel, Hedgehog ). Getbig is full of the exact type of people who keep Pitts. I will take your opinions with a grain or two of salt because they are undoubtedly skewed beyond common sensibilities.

[Camel Jockey]

Well, by that rationale, ban: cars, alcohol, cigs, fast food etc etc etc...

Cigarettes and fast food don't randomly attack people.

An agressive breed should not be allowed if its a threat to someone. It's pretty arrogant and selfish to think you have the right to keep something that could potentially hurt someone else. I don't give a rat's ass if someone thinks this breed is cute, the bottom line is that if it's a threat to me or anyone else then it should be banned.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Your affairs in the matter are an exception to the rule; which I pointed out from the start.

I guess the authorities are STUPID for ignoring the exceptions to the rule

Lets not forget the demographic of Getbig itself: wannabe muscle heads, actual muscle heads, gym rats and the unemployed scroungers (Diesel, Hedgehog ). Getbig is full of the exact type of people who keep Pitts. I will take your opinions with a grain or two of salt because they are undoubtedly skewed beyond common sensibilities.

The mere fact that you can't get your brain around the fact that there are MILLIONS of pitbull owners and a HANDFULL of attacks shows me how skewed your closed minded brain really is.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Cigarettes and fast food don't randomly attack people.

An agressive breed should not be allowed if its a threat to someone. It's pretty arrogant and selfish to think you have the right to keep something that could potentially hurt someone else. I don't give a rat's ass if someone thinks this breed is cute, the bottom line is that if it's a threat to me or anyone else then it should be banned.

You must jump and scream at your own shadow.