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I hope the mods (Hedgehog?)don't move this to the general board? I think you guys will appreciate this being here?
We are in the final stages of the 2007 Rugby World Cup in Paris. It has always saddened me that you Americans never embraced rugby .... it's such a fast, exciting, physical game! It was always my true love! (I had a rugby scholarship at college).
One of the true joys of the game is the New Zealand "Haka" (New Zealand nick-named the All Blacks for their all black strip). The Haka is a traditional Maori Warrior war dance that literally means that they are ready to die in battle. It was first performed by the New Zealand team in 1884! Usually a Maori player in the team will always lead.
Here is a cool TV ad that combines the Maori warrior with scenes from the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulZOE8bDa8&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulZOE8bDa8&mode=related&search=)
Grant.
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England are gonna get destroyed on Saturday.
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England are gonna get destroyed on Saturday.
Many would agree. But they did beat highly-favored Australia ... and then beat France (who had knocked out number 1 ranked New Zealand) .... so with Wilkinson back at fly-half they are obviously a different team?
Just for the record I obviously hope South Africa win. I played for Western Province U/21 when I was at college.
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Screw rugby. I played one game and got banned for being too rough. I thoght it was a rough sport but for some reason punching someone in the face isn't allowed. Pansies.
It was a shocker that the kiwis lost. They were killing their competition. SA won't win it all. England probably will repeat.
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Screw rugby. I played one game and got banned for being too rough. I thoght it was a rough sport but for some reason punching someone in the face isn't allowed. Pansies.
Where did you play MOS? The problem is you were probably caught punching someone? Can't let the ref see? Have to do it deep inside a maul or ruck? :)
It was a shocker that the kiwis lost. They were killing their competition. SA won't win it all. England probably will repeat.
The Kiwi's (All Blacks) losing was a shock all right!!! But do you still think England can win it after losing to South Africa 36-0 in the opening rounds?
Honest question.
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Jonny Wilkinson is the man that dictates the game for England, they are useless without him as has been seen in their performances since the last World Cup, and since his return.
England could come into this game, with a point to prove after loosing so poorly to SA a few weeks back, but it seems to me that SA is the on form team.
However this world cup has been full of surprises, the pumas beating the French, England going down 35-0 to SA, Ireland going out at the group stages, so who knows, Its gonna be a great game!!!
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For those still not familar with the "Haka" I think you'll enjoy these clips:
Here is Carlos Spensor leading New Zealand against Tonga (who reply with their own Islander version of the Haka). 90 000 in the stands... and they go wild! Turn the volume up! Can you Americans compare to this frenzy in any of your sports?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_BCKZqDLUM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_BCKZqDLUM)
This one from against Australia... look at the Aussie players expressions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFxY19K3D_Y&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFxY19K3D_Y&mode=related&search=)
Tana Umaga (a true Maori) leads the Haka... watch his intensity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNfaVocfV8&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpNfaVocfV8&mode=related&search=)
This one from last week against France. The French captain is the caveman looking giant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcl_PuQi3V4&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcl_PuQi3V4&mode=related&search=)
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Grant ??
You from SA Bro ??
whoa , my brotherrr ! ;D Hoe gaan dit broer ?
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Haha the slight your throat haka causes such an uproar, I still think the traditional one is the best ever though
What year were you with WP Grant? I played U21's for the Lions for 2 years
I played one game and got banned for being too rough.
You got banned for dirty play, playing dirty is not "rough". But yeah if you do it dont get caught :D
No way Eng will beat the boks in the final, all props to them though, to come back from their poor pool games is very impressive
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The PUMAS singing their national anthem was priceless,very intense and emotional :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEfzYK6IY6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbk3ZKdmP6E&mode=related&search=
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Grant ??
You from SA Bro ??
whoa , my brotherrr ! ;D Hoe gaan dit broer ?
Ya Boet, dis baie goed my ou seuntjie! Hoe gaan dit met jou?
Born and raised in Bulawayo... played for Matabeleland schools ... but did all my University at Cape Town.
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Haha, the slice your throat haka causes such an uproar, I still think the traditional one is the best ever though.
What year were you with WP Grant? I played U21's for the Lions for 2 years
I played U21 B mostly ...but a few games on the wing for the U21 A with the legendry Chester Williams playing on our other wing... I'm thinking it was early to mid 90's. Chester taught me so much..... he was truly talented. Then I moved to Natal to try my luck in rugby after I graduated from UCT.
I'll try post some news cuttings on it.
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Grant Rugby League is much more exciting. It's not played all over the world though, mainly Australia and England.
Some Rugby nations do play the game well and it is exciting but the constant milking of penalties/penalties for anything, and then drop goals or penalty kicks/lack of tries gets very very boring. This is how Australia plays which is why a lot of people here can't stand it.
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South Africa Rugby Team (I'm not kidding) :D
(http://www.grapkas.com/images/grapjas_rugby.jpg)
Grant, are we seeing your glutes there?
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Huge back potential and massive calves on those lot.
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Ive seen this before and i have always wondered, why are new zealand aloud to do all that stupid dancing shit before games, why are the opposition "forced" to watch as i would think it gives an immediate psychological advantage to new zealand.......ban that shit!
PS is that french guy famous only for having long hair and a long beard?...seriously if he had normal hair and was clean shaven i would imagine he would get a lot less attention than he does now
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Jonny Wilkinson is the man that dictates the game for England, they are useless without him as has been seen in their performances since the last World Cup, and since his return.
England could come into this game, with a point to prove after loosing so poorly to SA a few weeks back, but it seems to me that SA is the on form team.
However this world cup has been full of surprises, the pumas beating the French, England going down 35-0 to SA, Ireland going out at the group stages, so who knows, Its gonna be a great game!!!
Funny how a subject like this pulls us out of the woodwork hey Brian? Nobody would ever guess we our real names are Paddy and Taff.
You are soo right! It was obvious that the whole team changed when little Johnny kicked his big ball around the field during the Australia game. The funny thing about it was, he didnt even play that good during the game.
Where you going to watch the final?
PS Did you follow up on the Solicitor?
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Pretty INTENSE Clips, Grant ... the Frenchman doesn't look the SLIGHTEST bit scared though ... as a matter of fact, he looks FUCKING NUTS !
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I hope the mods (Hedgehog?)don't move this to the general board? I think you guys will appreciate this being here?
We are in the final stages of the 2007 Rugby World Cup in Paris. It has always saddened me that you Americans never embraced rugby .... it's such a fast, exciting, physical game! It was always my true love! (I had a rugby scholarship at college).
One of the true joys of the game is the New Zealand "Haka" (New Zealand nick-named the All Blacks for their all black strip). The Haka is a traditional Maori Warrior war dance that literally means that they are ready to die in battle. It was first performed by the New Zealand team in 1884! Usually a Maori player in the team will always lead.
Here is a cool TV ad that combines the Maori warrior with scenes from the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulZOE8bDa8&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulZOE8bDa8&mode=related&search=)
Grant.
I love you Grant :-*
Everytime I see the Haka my dick grows an inch!!! What a spectacle!! Its a shame the All Blacks are a bunch of chokers :(
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Grant Rugby League is much more exciting. It's not played all over the world though, mainly Australia and England.
Some Rugby nations do play the game well and it is exciting but the constant milking of penalties/penalties for anything, and then drop goals or penalty kicks/lack of tries gets very very boring. This is how Australia plays which is why a lot of people here can't stand it.
Amen!, League owns Union in every way.
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Amen!, League owns Union in every way.
League is simply poor mans union... Rugby has far greater athletes.... I would even say American Football is better than League. Thats how shit league is.
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League is simply poor mans union... Rugby has far greater athletes.... I would even say American Football is better than League. Thats how shit league is.
Whatever it is it is more consistent at delivering "sport" as opposed to union which all too often descends into exploitation of the flawed rules.
I'm sure you can see a good game of any sport, its just unfortunately quite rare with union.
Perhaps the nail in the coffin for union is that players and experts alike are left completely clueless as to many of the rulings. It needs to be cleaned up. The concept of competition is far too fragile in union.
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Whatever it is it is more consistent at delivering "sport" as opposed to union which all too often descends into exploitation of the flawed rules.
I'm sure you can see a good game of any sport, its just unfortunately quite rare with union.
Perhaps the nail in the coffin for union is that players and experts alike are left completely clueless as to many of the rulings. It needs to be cleaned up. The concept of competition is far too fragile in union.
I think that is the beauty of union. It is all about adapting to interpretation. It is not a robot sport, players are required to use the top 2 inches.... Something players in league seem to refrain from doing.
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I love watching a good game of Rugby, but i am definietly a League man. Union guys go on about League being too stop start, but look at union, way too many rules, every minute there is a penalty. And i do feel that League can be more exciting than union. Union is boring as shit when the 2 fullbacks just kick the ball back and forth for 5 minutes.
But different games, Union is more team strength as opposed to League which is more geared towards individual strength. Both awesome games though, and they both rape American football.
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I love watching a good game of Rugby, but i am definietly a League man. Union guys go on about League being too stop start, but look at union, way too many rules, every minute there is a penalty. And i do feel that League can be more exciting than union. Union is boring as shit when the 2 fullbacks just kick the ball back and forth for 5 minutes.
But different games, Union is more team strength as opposed to League which is more geared towards individual strength. Both awesome games though, and they both rape American football.
I agree, watching union is just not as exciting as it used to be teams these days sides just play to go get penalties instead of tries to win games.
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I agree, watching union is just not as exciting as it used to be teams these days sides just play to go get penalties instead of tries to win games.
I suggest you watch an All Blacks game. Hope this helps.
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All Blacks is the team that puts Rugby into world map
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League is simply poor mans union... Rugby has far greater athletes.... I would even say American Football is better than League. Thats how shit league is.
So why are some of the best Union backs former league players, and why can't union players ever make an impact in league? League players are better athletes, the game is almost constant movement as opposed to Unions stop-start affair, and don't start me on NFL, Oxygen between plays is not a sign you are a great athlete.
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Ive seen this before and i have always wondered, why are new zealand aloud to do all that stupid dancing shit before games, why are the opposition "forced" to watch as i would think it gives an immediate psychological advantage to new zealand.......ban that shit!
PS is that french guy famous only for having long hair and a long beard?...seriously if he had normal hair and was clean shaven i would imagine he would get a lot less attention than he does now
I agree with both parts.
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do Rugby players use steroids?
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Why yes, yes they do. :D
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Why yes, yes they do. :D
But they are not meant to ... just like our top Olympia contenders, and NFL players, and Barry Bonds are "not meant to".
Testing is done randomly. Yet the huge men in the scrum (below) have enormous strength (and are able to bench press 5 plates in the gym) while still playing a full and fast-paced 80 minutes on the field...
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Grant, all due respect, there's a few pro rugby league players at the gym I goto, and they are nowhere near the 5 plate per side level.
Maybe the union guys are just superior genetically? :-*
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I've never seen a shot-putter bench five plates let alone a rugby player.
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Grant, all due respect, there's a few pro rugby league players at the gym I goto, and they are nowhere near the 5 plate per side level.
Maybe the union guys are just superior genetically?
Well to be honest, I think only a few of the top world scrummagers can bench that amount. None of the running backs have that level of strength ... but I did find this link on Sheridan (and 225kg is the same as 507 pounds which is about 5 plates, yes?)
http://worldcup.planet-rugby.com/Story/0,21043,13140_2650338,00.html (http://worldcup.planet-rugby.com/Story/0,21043,13140_2650338,00.html)
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I would have figured it would have been an ENGLISHMAN to perform that feat! 8)
On a side note, he looks slightly retarded, maybe a reason for his strength?
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A couple years ago, OLN used to show Australian Rules Football, and some of those cats were F-ing ripped, and they weren't 180-190. These cats were 220-230. Sinew, vascularity. They looked awesome. I can't believe they were drug free and I don't care that they weren't. :D
Good athletes and very tough.
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rugby's for fairies.
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A couple years ago, OLN used to show Australian Rules Football, and some of those cats were F-ing ripped, and they weren't 180-190. These cats were 220-230. Sinew, vascularity. They looked awesome. I can't believe they were drug free and I don't care that they weren't. :D
Good athletes and very tough.
Ahhh i hate that game. They are very fit boys though. But the game sucks. Please don't mention it again.
In case any Victorians missed it, the game sucks.
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rugby's for fairies.
Would padding and helmets make it manlier? ???
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I would have figured it would have been an ENGLISHMAN to perform that feat!
On a side note, he looks slightly retarded, maybe a reason for his strength?
That may well be ... but I'd never tell him that! Nor would I dare steal his lunchbox!!!!!
On a side note..... do you guys think Brian Habana can do the Superman again in the Rugby World Cup Final on Saturday?
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Would padding and helmets make it manlier? ???
is there something, "nordic superman"?
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rugby's for fairies.
That's not a fair statement, Power Rod. Often Rugby players come off the pitch with deep facial cuts, get stitched up on the side line with no local , and return to the game.
This would never happen in American Football? They get carted off on those special golf carts and we never see them return to the game? They are so pampered and grossly over-paid. Just ask Terrell Owens or Randy Moss?
American Ice hockey shows more toughness than Gridiron Football in this sense?
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is there something, "nordic superman"?
Unable to answer the question "power rod"?
Grant, as an Englishman, I'm depressed to be of the opinion SA will win come Saturday night... :'(
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Grant, as an Englishman, I'm depressed to be of the opinion SA will win come Saturday night... :'(
Ah, and as a Bok fan I wish I could be so sure too. But Wilkinson is the "magic man" and I honestly think it will be a very close game.
Anything can happen on any given Saturday in this World Cup ...as the English and French have already proved. I just Pray for fair decisions from the ref's? Just let the best team win?
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SA will take it, and Habana will score twice ;D
Boks by at least 12
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SA will take it, and Habana will score twice ;D
Boks by at least 12
I hope you are right! How about 27-15? That's 12 points?
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Would padding and helmets make it manlier? ???
hahahahahahah are you saying the cheerleaders in 'american football' are more manlier than the 'guys' wearing shell suits, Nordic Superman?
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I hope you are right! How about 27-15? That's 12 points?
Thats the exact score I have R1000 on ;D
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Guys I have played American Football, Aussie Rules and Rugby (league) and I can tell you Rugby is by far the toughest game on the body. Anyone who thinks otherwise should play a couple of seasons....then tell me it's a soft game 8).
Oh yeah Grant the Haka is magic stuff, I played with a ton of Kiwi's over here (Australia) and we all learnt the Haka from them, not quite the same when a little guy like me does it but it's still great stuff ;D.
World Cup Final is at 4am over here Sunday morning so I might have to watch the replay the next day depending on what time I get home sat night, I may just stay up to watch though 8).
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So why are some of the best Union backs former league players, and why can't union players ever make an impact in league? League players are better athletes, the game is almost constant movement as opposed to Unions stop-start affair, and don't start me on NFL, Oxygen between plays is not a sign you are a great athlete.
youd be quiet suprised that alot of the league backs actually came from playing schoolboy rugby, they chose league because of the money!
and the comment made about chabal....maybe u should do ur research also...hes treated like a god in france for the simple reason he is renowned for his hard-hitting and aggressive style of play
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Actually if Chabal didn't have the hair and the beard he wouldn't get as much attention because his impact at international rugby hasn't been that great especially when you compare his international form to the way he plays in the Guinness Premiership and the Heineken Cup. In those competitions he dominates and controls matches, at international level he is just as likely to knock on than put in a big hit. Vastly overrated player at international level, which is why he isn't an automatic first choice in the French team, but amazing club player.
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Actually if Chabal didn't have the hair and the beard he wouldn't get as much attention because his impact at international rugby hasn't been that great especially when you compare his international form to the way he plays in the Guinness Premiership and the Heineken Cup. In those competitions he dominates and controls matches, at international level he is just as likely to knock on than put in a big hit. Vastly overrated player at international level, which is why he isn't an automatic first choice in the French team, but amazing club player.
I saw him come off the bench and single handedly win a game against England.... He eats a lot of steak as well.
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I saw him come off the bench and single handedly win a game against England.... He eats a lot of steak as well.
Did you watch him play against New Zealand before the Tri-Nations this year? Apart from one tackle that broke Ali Williams jaw and a big hit on a centre, he spent those tests looking like a little boy who couldn't catch a ball. There is a reason why the French want to play him at second row rather than number eight, he is not very good at International level.
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Did you watch him play against New Zealand before the Tri-Nations this year? Apart from one tackle that broke Ali Williams jaw and a big hit on a centre, he spent those tests looking like a little boy who couldn't catch a ball. There is a reason why the French want to play him at second row rather than number eight, he is not very good at International level.
Yeah i agree, he needs to be in a pack thats going forward otherwise he will be invisible.
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Guys I have played American Football, Aussie Rules and Rugby (league) and I can tell you Rugby is by far the toughest game on the body. Anyone who thinks otherwise should play a couple of seasons....then tell me it's a soft game 8).
Oh yeah Grant the Haka is magic stuff, I played with a ton of Kiwi's over here (Australia) and we all learnt the Haka from them, not quite the same when a little guy like me does it but it's still great stuff ;D.
World Cup Final is at 4am over here Sunday morning so I might have to watch the replay the next day depending on what time I get home sat night, I may just stay up to watch though 8).
My old room mate and friend eric stocz ( ex Lions , steelers , etc ) has a diff opp on rugby versus football. My personal opp on what's rougher is that rugby is like childs play compared to football .
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Yeah i agree, he needs to be in a pack thats going forward otherwise he will be invisible.
Most number 8 who have limited skill struggle behind a pack going backwards. Compare him to Nick Easter, he was the only English player who went forward against the Boks during the two tests in the summer when England got stuffed and the English pack struggled. He should grow a beard, he is twice the player Chabal is.
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My old room mate and friend eric stocz ( ex Lions , steelers , etc ) has a diff opp on rugby versus football. My personal opp on what's rougher is that rugby is like childs play compared to football .
Oh, no bias there then ::)
And the images really don't make you look like an idiot ::)
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Ah, and as a Bok fan I wish I could be so sure too. But Wilkinson is the "magic man" and I honestly think it will be a very close game.
Anything can happen on any given Saturday in this World Cup ...as the English and French have already proved. I just Pray for fair decisions from the ref's? Just let the best team win?
Putting a 3 point field goal is too much.. They should reduced to a single point.. England got criticized for their tactics of Johnny "Drop Kick King" Wilkinson.. If you haven't noticed, England so far has scored less 20 tries in the tournament while Kiwis, Boks or Wallabies had scored more than 25 tries. The Kiwis scored around 35 tries until Quarter Final
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Putting a 3 point field goal is too much.. They should reduced to a single point.. England got criticized for their tactics of Johnny "Drop Kick King" Wilkinson.. If you haven't noticed, England so far has scored less 20 tries in the tournament while Kiwis, Boks or Wallabies had scored more than 25 tries. The Kiwis scored around 35 tries until Quarter Final
Aaah right, you mean make the game more bias in the direction of the way Kiwis play?
Don't whinge because the tacticians behind the French and English victories out did you.
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Aaah right, you mean make the game more bias in the direction of the way Kiwis play?
Don't whinge because the tacticians behind the French and English victories out did you.
I can't argue about the tactics by the French and English. It worked for them and they won (that's what matters).
Am more concerned about playing the beautiful game
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I can't argue about the tactics by the French and English. It worked for them and they won (that's what matters).
Am more concerned about playing the beautiful game
Yeah, a little variation helps.
Lower the drop goals to one point and you effectively kill it all together. Risk Vs Points not worth it.
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Yeah, a little variation helps.
Lower the drop goals to one point and you effectively kill it all together. Risk Vs Points not worth it.
I agree with you mate.. I would love to see teams playing hard to score tries than kicking penalties / drop goals
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Putting a 3 point field goal is too much.. They should reduced to a single point.. England got criticized for their tactics of Johnny "Drop Kick King" Wilkinson.. If you haven't noticed, England so far has scored less 20 tries in the tournament while Kiwis, Boks or Wallabies had scored more than 25 tries. The Kiwis scored around 35 tries until Quarter Final
The Kiwis had the easiest of all the groups, Scotland, Italy, Romania and Portugal so it is no wonder they scored so many tries. (It is also a plausible reason why they got beat in the quarter finals. They hadn't played a competitive fixture since the final match of the tri-nations and weren't battle hardened).
No one was calling for reduction in the points of a drop goal when South Africa won with a drop goal in the 1995 final or when Zinzan Brook dropped goaled from the half way line against England or when De Beer drop goaled England out of the 1999 World Cup. No-one has criticised the Argentinians who drop goal more than England or South Africa won regularly attempt drop goals from their own half which is a very negative tactic. It seems that people only tend to call for the drop goal when England are doing it.
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Well to be honest, I think only a few of the top world scrummagers can bench that amount. None of the running backs have that level of strength ... but I did find this link on Sheridan (and 225kg is the same as 507 pounds which is about 5 plates, yes?)
http://worldcup.planet-rugby.com/Story/0,21043,13140_2650338,00.html (http://worldcup.planet-rugby.com/Story/0,21043,13140_2650338,00.html)
Sheridan is a beast...a 6'5" prop still seems odd to me. but at 275 he still weighs less than both SA props. I think SA will destroy england based on their pack alone
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Oh, no bias there then ::)
And the images really don't make you look like an idiot ::)
Whay do the images make me look like an idiot ?
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I guess it's that you do differant Injury's in American Football compared to Rugby, the head and Shoulder joint is where a lot of the Injury's come from in Rugby where as In American Football it seemed to be an assortment of injury's with a lot of leg and lower body stuff. I guess the Shoulder stuff is quite common in both though. This is just from my experience though of course 8).
Final tonight.......god I hate the Poms lol ;D
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Whay do the images make me look like an idiot ?
Because you're comparing your "friend" with Honour in a bizarre attempt to discredit him and give more weight to your baseless opinion.
Of course you're french. I forgive you for your frenchness.
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:D armchair qb's always crack me up.
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South Africa 2007 world champs!!! YEAH BABY!!!!
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South Africa 2007 world champs!!! YEAH BABY!!!!
Good game, the neighbour hood exploded with car horns etc after the game.
Nice to be numero uno again :)
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Yeah it was close I guess but not what you would call exciting :P, very average game to watch from a spectators pov unless you where really supporting one team over the other 8). Well done to the guys from SA :).
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Because you're comparing your "friend" with Honour in a bizarre attempt to discredit him and give more weight to your baseless opinion.
Haha cheers Nordic, yeah I never can figure sevastase out either ;D.
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Haha cheers Nordic, yeah I never can figure sevastase out either ;D.
well i'll help u : eric played in the nfl , also played some rugby. u on on the other hand....what did u play again/...PLEASE DON'T FEEL OFFENDED BUT DO U HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT'S LIKE TO PLAY AMERICAN FOOTBALL IN THE NFL ?...U ARE A NICE KID BUT i think u're in a little over your head here.
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well i'll help u : eric played in the nfl , also played some rugby. u on on the other hand....what did u play again/...PLEASE DON'T FEEL OFFENDED BUT DO U HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT'S LIKE TO PLAY AMERICAN FOOTBALL IN THE NFL ?...U ARE A NICE KID BUT i think u're in a little over your head here.
Right so he's not allowed to have an opinion ::)
Like you have to be a PRO bodybuilder to criticise a PRO bodybuilder? ::)
Get real moron.
P.S. France 10 - 34 Argentina
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Right so he's not allowed to have an opinion ::)
Like you have to be a PRO bodybuilder to criticise a PRO bodybuilder? ::)
Get real moron.
me on the other hand played sports at pro level , eric did too ...honour ? :D ....nordic....what did u play to qualify for an oppinion ?...some soccer in little leagues ? brother....go play some table tennis and leave the oppinions to grownups....
P.S. France 10 - 34 Argentina
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Please leave the quotation ability to the people that aren't retarded.
I've played football (soccer), rugby, tennis, 100m sprint and swimming.
Continue to play a little of each to this day. But yeah, I not a pro in any.
You don't have to be a pro to qualify for an opinion. That just shows how pathetic you are.
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My old room mate and friend eric stocz ( ex Lions , steelers , etc ) has a diff opp on rugby versus football. My personal opp on what's rougher is that rugby is like childs play compared to football .
Yeah this was the only comment that I found very wrong, a lot of the athletes at the top levels in these sports could match it physically with each other, its the skills of each game that are the hardest things to master.
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Good game, the neighbour hood exploded with car horns etc after the game.
Nice to be numero uno again :)
Yeah congrats to your guys. They deserved the win :)
Enjoy it though, 'cos once they start filling your team with it's quota of black (instead of the best players be they black or white) players. I can see your next WC win being a long, long way off.
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Yeah congrats to your guys. They deserved the win :)
Enjoy it though, 'cos once they start filling your team with it's quota of black (instead of the best players be they black or white) players. I can see your next WC win being a long, long way off.
Diesel, are you being serious? ???
That seems outlandish. Taking that shit way too far :-\
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Yeah congrats to your guys. They deserved the win :)
Enjoy it though, 'cos once they start filling your team with it's quota of black (instead of the best players be they black or white) players. I can see your next WC win being a long, long way off.
Yeah, i heard about that.
Now two of the starters are black players. They're gonna make a quota of at least 10 black players...
Kinda stupid, in the future we'll see probably more and more black players anyway.
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Rugby stars prepare for homecoming
Press Association
Sunday October 21, 2007 7:08 PM
England's rugby stars are preparing to return home with their heads held high after their valiant performance in the World Cup final in Paris.
They put up a great fight but lost 15-6 to a strong South African side in last night's match in the Stade de France.
Controversy continued over the disallowed 43rd minute "try" by Mark Cueto, which would have put England back into the match if it had been given.
It was disallowed after lengthy deliberation by video referee Stuart Dickinson.
The Australian decided the Sale Sharks player's foot made contact with the touchline as he dived over under pressure from Springboks number eight Danie Rossouw's despairing tackle.
Cueto said: "My gut instinct when I went over the line was that it was a try. As a player, you generally know when you are in or not. For me, it was 100% a try.