revealing new cycle...

[theworm]

29, 6'4 a lean 236...
first cycle was deca 300 x 8 weeks and test 250 x 10 weeks, followed by clomid.. gained a solid 12-14 pounds, no noticalble water weight.

new cycle:
test 500 x 12 weeks
deca 300 x 10 weeks
AI on hand and PCT on hand too...

thoughts? any changes? ps.  i cannot get dbol

[Emmortal]

Why not run the same amount you ran?  Personally I'd do this before bumping up the dose so soon.  You should still see some nice gains from that dosage for a few cycles.

[theworm]

yeah. i thought about that.  but second time around witht he same cycle, i thought i would only gain maybe 8 pounds or so this time.  With 450-500 test x 12 weeks and 300 deca x 10, i think i could get at least 15 out of that...

[CHEVEN]

Should be pretty sweet. Good luck

[busyB]

Hcg during cycle!!!!!   

Otherwise, good move on the 2:1 test to deca

[OTHstrong]

29, 6'4 a lean 236...
first cycle was deca 300 x 8 weeks and test 250 x 10 weeks, followed by clomid.. gained a solid 12-14 pounds, no noticalble water weight.

new cycle:
test 500 x 12 weeks
deca 300 x 10 weeks
AI on hand and PCT on hand too...

thoughts? any changes? ps.  i cannot get dbol

Great idea.

[brent2741]

Why not run the same amount you ran?  Personally I'd do this before bumping up the dose so soon.  You should still see some nice gains from that dosage for a few cycles.

right on, to many people jump up to fast and waste the fact that "gear" is new in the body and very little goes a long way. Ideally you want to use the lowest amount that gives you the most results, and jumping to high to fast will negate this.

[theworm]

thanks,

i am going to do test 450 x 12 weeks and deca 300 x 10...

[RDW]

right on, to many people jump up to fast and waste the fact that "gear" is new in the body and very little goes a long way. Ideally you want to use the lowest amount that gives you the most results, and jumping to high to fast will negate this.

I completely agree with this, if you are making gains off 250mg of test I would stick with that or increase only minorly.  Too many people absolutely waste test by using redicuous amounts (generally because much of it is fake or misdosed).  Even a well experienced user (pro level) rarely has a need to go above 750-1000mg.

[krazee]

29, 6'4 a lean 236...
first cycle was deca 300 x 8 weeks and test 250 x 10 weeks, followed by clomid.. gained a solid 12-14 pounds, no noticalble water weight.

new cycle:
test 500 x 12 weeks
deca 300 x 10 weeks
AI on hand and PCT on hand too...

thoughts? any changes? ps.  i cannot get dbol

whats your goal bro?

[theworm]

goals, being as big as possible with minimal sides!

actually i am a lean 236 and 6'4.  i would like to hover around 250, lean.  i am going to do this cycle of 450 test and 300 deca, then my future cycles will be 450 test E plus anavar and propecia.


i think a test/anavar/propecia cycle is the best in terms of gains with barely any sides...

[Rimbaud]

If you don't mind me asking how many cycles have you done worm? It may be in another thread but I'm too lazy to look.

[theworm]

i only did one cycle,,,250 test and 300 deca x 10 weeks,,gained about 14 pounds...

the 450 test and 300 deca will be my second cycle.

[Rimbaud]

Did you have a lot of side effects on that cycle? The only reason I'm asking is you seem really paranoid about sides (especially losing your hair).

[theworm]

actuall no sides...

i have a calyx (sp?) on the vertex of my scalp, and have looked at my vertex (top of scalp), the first time a few weeks ago, and looks a little thin.   my girl said it hasn;t, but i think she is being nice.  it only looks thin over the calyx, but i think its because my hair sticks straight up there...so a little paranoid about hair loss.  i would hate being bald.

[Rimbaud]

It's one of the risks. If you're prone to baldness then AAS use make it happen sooner. If you're not willing to take the risks - don't use.   

[DIVISION]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:

Test 500 x 16 weeks
Deca 300 x 12 weeks



Let's try and stretch this cycle out a bit longer so the long half-life of Deca can be fully realized, also helps to run Test long enough to compensate for the anabolic lag you will experience after tapering off the Deca.


DIV

[Rimbaud]

DIVISIONAL CHANGES:

Test 500 x 16 weeks
Deca 300 x 12 weeks



Let's try and stretch this cycle out a bit longer so the long half-life of Deca can be fully realized, also helps to run Test long enough to compensate for the anabolic lag you will experience after tapering off the Deca.


DIV

I agree with DIV.

[io856]

It's one of the risks. If you're prone to baldness then AAS use make it happen sooner. If you're not willing to take the risks - don't use.   

Bingo!

[theworm]

thnks DIV!

[DIVISION]

thnks DIV!

The worm has turned...



DIV