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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #100 on: October 03, 2011, 04:50:21 PM »
You're wrong, but I grow tired of this.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #101 on: October 03, 2011, 04:50:40 PM »
by the way, fortress is the only one talking sense in this thread.  The difference between 800 and 900 in the deadlift is enourmous.  Without straps, I would guess he was good for maybe 850 in his prime.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #102 on: October 03, 2011, 04:58:19 PM »
Well, that's what I used when I totaled over 2100.  Most of the other guys I know use a combination of those drugs and recently a lot of guys use huge doses of anavar before meets.

What do guys take right before meets (like day-of)?

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #103 on: October 03, 2011, 04:59:33 PM »
What do guys take right before meets (like day-of)?
ephedrine and halotestin.  problem is most UG halotestin is fake nowadays.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #104 on: October 03, 2011, 05:00:39 PM »
If you can find real stenox, that is the good stuff.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #105 on: October 03, 2011, 05:23:46 PM »
Of course they are. I don't say what I do about Ronnie's use as a way to exclude the use by strength athletes. If you don't understand why I make the comment, than what can I do? You simply don't understand much.
Gotcha he's maxed out as far as drug usage. Duh was tarded for a sec there

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #106 on: October 03, 2011, 08:37:19 PM »
Ronnie will likely be the strongest BB in the history of the sport..................f orever

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #107 on: October 03, 2011, 09:37:38 PM »
ephedrine and halotestin.  problem is most UG halotestin is fake nowadays.

how much of each of these ?

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #108 on: October 03, 2011, 10:32:02 PM »
Awesome lifts!

And the 200s weren't too heavy for Ronnie...of course it's not fake!

This is me with 170s, I wasn't at my strongest at all and I'm nowhere to the size and strength of Ronnie...


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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #109 on: October 03, 2011, 11:49:40 PM »
On Benni's deadlift training, this was his training program as offered up by a training partner in 2009 or so, and if you look at his traing hall tapes they are still doing similar work-

Week A
Deadlift warm up to about 80%
80% 8setx2reps
Platform deadlift about 3-4inch high
Train with weights from 40-70%
4-6set x 4reps Speed!
Then go down to about 40-50% 2setx8reps

Week B
Deadlift. Work up to 3rep max.
Platform deadlift about 3-4inch high
With weights from 50-75%
4-6set x 3-5reps Speed
Then go down to about 50% for 2setsx8reps

Week C
Jeff Jet Method Deadlift ( This is hard to write down )
When you do Jeff Jet Method deadlift you start by doing a rack pull. Then your training partners take the rack away and you go down and then up! Then your partners put the rack back in! The rep starts up by your thighs then you go down and up again ( I hope you get it )
A guy from America told us about this. His name is Jeff Jet. We started doing this because pretty much everything me and Benedikt can pull up we can do more reps! So we thought this would be a great way to do work with much more weight to shock the body! It worked!

Jeff Jet Method Deadlift - Go up in 1-3reps max ( Do what the day allows!! )
Platform deadlift about 3-4inch high
4set x 4-6reps with weights from 50-60%


Deadlifts are trained 1x a week.

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Now my commentary on various things touched on in this thread-


Now, just a caveat, many guys at the top levels are more instinctive, so there might be changes that never make it to print.

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Now as to whether jacking Ronnie up to 300+ lbs in the offseason would help? Maybe, maybe not. As mentioned, when guys add weight, many times their squats go up, but their deads drop because the mechanics of their pulls change. Hence the old powerlifting axiom "keep adding weight till your deadlift goes down".

From what I've seen and judging him against others in the strength sports, I'd bet he'd wind up with a #2200- 2300 rawish total or so.

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As far as drugs go,

Dianabol, Anadrol, and Test are always the base drugs. Figure a gram to 2 grams of those a week. Tren is added in by some now, it's a bit more popular withe younger lifters. Eq and Deca are more popular with the older guys. Anavar and Halotestin are popular if you can find a quality source and have the money to run them right. Many just run Halo on training days and pre meet. Anavar has to be at least 50mg+ a day to be worthwhile in many people's eyes. Superdrol sometimes gets added in sometimes too.

Pre meet-

Ephedrine, Halo, Dianabol, Anadrol, and if you can find them, Cheque Drops are used, but have lost some favor.

Many guys just bump the Anadrol and Dianabol to 100mg/d for Dianabol and 150-200mg/d for Anadrol the week of the meet and leave it at that.

Cheque Drops have to be timed exactly against attempts or they'll do more harm than good many times.

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One last thing, it was mentioned that Strongmen don't bench or bench infrequently at the higher levels, that's mis-information. They all bench and bench a lot. There are times that inclines or Push presses, etc.... are given more emphasis by some. But the bench is still a bread and butter lift.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #110 on: October 04, 2011, 05:15:44 AM »
Test susp + halotestin + D-bol + Tren Ace...I broke some records on this stack minus the tren ace (did EQ instead). Tren Ace was not around then...maybe some parabolan amps but they were to hard to get...But now when itīs aN easier find just go with it... READ THE BIBLE FROM GOD JUST DO IT!
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #111 on: October 04, 2011, 05:19:50 AM »
Ronnie is one strong ass mofo.

"That's one 100-pound and 10 45-pound plates." On a T-Bar. Seriously WTF?

 ;)
 light weight....

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2011, 05:27:51 AM »
;)
 light weight....


Dude makes you want to lift some heavy ass weight...straight up.

the only BBer whose vids make me want to train

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #113 on: October 04, 2011, 05:30:08 AM »
I still think the dumbbells in "The Unbelieveable" are fake. He gets them in the starting position + the first rep so easily when everyone else is struggling like a MoFo just to get them from your knees back, seems fake to me.

lol, classic getbig...you think that the dumbbells are fake because he didn't struggle enough on the first rep for you?  ::)
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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2011, 05:37:02 AM »
Awesome lifts!

And the 200s weren't too heavy for Ronnie...of course it's not fake!

This is me with 170s, I wasn't at my strongest at all and I'm nowhere to the size and strength of Ronnie...



Good stuff there; made them look light.

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #115 on: October 04, 2011, 05:48:35 AM »
Fair enough. However, even on gas, 200s in pressing movements isn't light weight for ANYBODY. Well, maybe a prime Kazmaier (ha, ha), but very, very few others.

 
Mes warms up with the 200's and he is natty - all jamaican food budddaaaayyyy

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #116 on: October 04, 2011, 06:08:50 AM »
;)
 light weight....



Ronnie's a monster....I can only do 4 plates max...he's amazing

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Re: amazing how strong Ronnie was!
« Reply #117 on: October 04, 2011, 06:51:21 AM »
Ronnie the strongest?! Such an ignorant statement. Coleman, at his biggest and best, was one strong SOB, but please, dude.  

And below three is all technique, bone size and tendon strength? Even more ridiculousness.

I'll say it again. How can a board devoted to weight training have so many clueless individuals when it comes to strength and power?  ::)



actually he makes a lot of sense