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Christie camp held Sandy relief money hostage, mayor alleges
Two senior members of Gov. Chris Christie’s administration warned a New Jersey mayor earlier this year that her town would be starved of hurricane relief money unless she approved a lucrative redevelopment plan favored by the governor, according to the mayor and emails and personal notes she shared with msnbc.
The mayor, Dawn Zimmer, hasn’t approved the project, but she did request $127 million in hurricane relief for her city of Hoboken – 80% of which was underwater after Sandy hit in October 2012. What she got was $142,000 to defray the cost of a single back-up generator plus an additional $200,000 in recovery grants.
In an exclusive interview, Zimmer broke her silence and named Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno and Richard Constable, Christie’s community affairs commissioner, as the two officials who delivered messages on behalf of a governor she had long supported.
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In this account – supported by email, public records and Zimmer’s own diary entries – Christie’s inner circle was willing to cut off devastated constituents, muscle a friendly mayor and arrange public funds to finance a study for a project the governor supported.In a news conference last week, Christie rejected the notion that his administration engages in retribution or seeks political payback. Zimmer’s account paints a different portrait.
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Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/mayor-christie-camp-held-sandy-money-hostage
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at some point, nobody is going to believe "My whole inner circle knew, but I didn't...."
First they hide Bridgegate from him. Now they hide this from him. Where are the getbiggers saying it's totally normal, and Christie is innocent.
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at some point, nobody is going to believe "My whole inner circle knew, but I didn't...."
First they hide Bridgegate from him. Now they hide this from him. Where are the getbiggers saying it's totally normal, and Christie is innocent.
We are not like Obama voters. ;)
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Wow... Look at these numbers... NJ residents may turn against him VERY quickly once they realize he punished PEOPLE in order to get back at his political enemies.
Anemic Sandy aide had been noted was cause of concern for a while.
You may have already seen Mayor Zimmer in the news this week. Hoboken received only 1% of the aid they had requested for Hurricane Sandy relief and planning funds even though it was one of the hardest-hit communities in the state during the storm. At one point, 80% of the 50,000 person city was flooded. If you remember the footage of water gushing through an underground subway station, that was in Hoboken; it has, in fact, the highest per-capita use of public transit of any city in America. Yet so far the state of New Jersey has given the city about $350,000 from the billions of dollars in federal disaster relief and planning aid that it is charged with administering. That’s about $6 per resident. It has been enough to pay for one major planning study and to buy one backup generator for an $18 million emergency storm water pump.
50,000 people. 80% flooded. $6 a head.
News outlets and the mayor have both wondered if the anemic aid was a punishment for Zimmer not endorsing the governor’s reelection bid. Mayors in Jersey City, Elizabeth, and other New Jersey municipalities have been asking the same question since Fort Lee mayor Mark Sokolich raised the possibility that his refusal to endorse Christie led to the lane closures on GWB and the four-day-long traffic nightmare in that town.
This Hoboken story and the Fort Lee/GWB story might seem like separate tales. But they’re not. Moreover, these latest revelations put to rest the notion that Hoboken’s Sandy aid or the Fort Lee/GWB story have anything to do with local Democratic officials’ endorsement of the governor during his reelection campaign. Forget about the endorsements. It never really added up anyway.
The subpoenaed documents in Bridgegate show that the Christie administration used the Port Authority as an extension of their political operation, although we do not yet know to what end.
And the Hoboken story clearly demonstrates the Christie administration took steps to aid the material interest of a client of the chairman of that agency.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/hoboken-mayor-christie-team-shook-us-down-for-sandy-relief
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Remember when Sandy hit and us locals were pissed off at the scam Christy and Obama were pulling on people ?
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Remember when Sandy hit and us locals were pissed off at the scam Christy and Obama were pulling on people ?
At the time, everyone just thought you were picking on libs/rinos.
Now we know you were 100% right... Obama, Christie and their spiteful criminal enterprise were really punishing NJ citizens for the mayor they chose.
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Christie's future ambitions are in trouble. The "plausible" part of the "plausible deniability" equation is going to be severely questioned.
And memories of him viciously attacking a woman will start to resurface in people's minds.
I don't think what he knew or when is going to matter much at this point.
Bruce Springsteen got on international television and caricatured <sp?> him. He's toast.
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I got news for you blackie700... no matter what scandal you drum up... about anybody you want... real or imagined... is nearly 1/100th of all the shit your hero Mr. Muslim sympathizer, we can't call Benghazi a terrorist attack cause we will hurt some ragheads feeling, sit in a racist church for 20 years, friends with murderer terrorists, has done and continues to do.
Hope this helps.
Now go get fucked...lol at Hurricane relief money being slowed down.
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meltdown
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/01/18/the-scandal-is-msnbc/
Haha, Blacken the dipshit believes anything he's told. Who's dumber, the autistic shut-in or the network that quotes liars without doing their own research?
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2014/01/18/the-scandal-is-msnbc/
Haha, Blacken the dipshit believes anything he's told. Who's dumber, the autistic shut-in or the network that quotes liars without doing their own research?
[I say this because he still lives with mommy,really]
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
now go have your mommy make me some cookies :D :D :D wow who would have thought he deny it
Washington (CNN) - A day after Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer rankled the administration of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie with allegations that his office withheld Superstorm Sandy relief funding unless she pushed through a redevelopment project, Zimmer defended her claims.
She told CNN that Trenton is playing politics with money needed to rebuild her city in the aftermath of the storm.
"It's stunning. It's outrageous. But it's true," Zimmer told CNN's Candy Crowley in an interview Sunday morning.
Zimmer appeared on MSNBC a day earlier to level charges that members of Christie's administration, including Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, pressured her to approve a redevelopment project sought by The Rockefeller Group, a real estate developer with ties to the governor's office. She told MSNBC host Steve Kornacki that Guadagno threatened her at a May 13 event they both attended in Hoboken. Zimmer later recorded the conversation in journal entries she shared with CNN, and recalls the lieutenant governor warning her she had "to move forward with the Rockefeller project" and calling the demand a "direct message from the governor."
A spokesman for Christie, Colin Reed, dismissed the report as "partisan politics."
The Hoboken mayor refuted that characterization as false.
"I haven't been a part of the Democratic machine," Zimmer said, citing her frequent praise of Christie and what she describes as a solid working relationship between two executives. "I did have a really good relationship (with Christie) so I couldn't believe they were doing this."
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I imagine she has some type of proof for this?
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the ass covering is already starting :D
The Rockefeller Group told CNN, "We have no knowledge of any information pertaining to this allegation. If it turns out to be true, it would be deplorable."
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the ass covering is already starting :D
The Rockefeller Group told CNN, "We have no knowledge of any information pertaining to this allegation. If it turns out to be true, it would be deplorable."
hahaha so allegations are all that are needed these days eh?
good to know
If its true and they have proof, I agree its deplorable
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hahahaha story just broke yesterday,give it some time.
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hahahaha story just broke yesterday,give it some time.
LMFAO at you leftsts harping on Christie and silent for the last 6 years when it was your messiah who has done far worse.
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The previous distribution of relief funds to Hoboken vs. other areas, ...especially taking into account the relative damage experienced by those areas, will either refute these claims or lend credence to them.
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"It's stunning. It's outrageous. But it's true," Zimmer told CNN's Candy Crowley in an interview Sunday morning.
Zimmer appeared on MSNBC a day earlier to level charges that members of Christie's administration, including Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno, pressured her to approve a redevelopment project sought by The Rockefeller Group, a real estate developer with ties to the governor's office. She told MSNBC host Steve Kornacki that Guadagno threatened her at a May 13 event they both attended in Hoboken. Zimmer later recorded the conversation in journal entries she shared with CNN, and recalls the lieutenant governor warning her she had "to move forward with the Rockefeller project" and calling the demand a "direct message from the governor."
A spokesman for Christie, Colin Reed, dismissed the report as "partisan politics."
here's the thing... We all have seen Christie over the past few years. The dude is fearless, he doesn't back down... Someone challenges him and let's be honest, he JUMPS to attack them for bullshit claims. He's been criticized for it, but it's who he is. Dude is an attack dog.
Now... Allegations like these are HUGE... and methinks if Christie was innocent, he'd be the one headlining all of these Suunday talk shows, proclaiming his innocence from the rooftops. When someone is 100% innocent, you bet your ass they're right up front denying it.
Christie being so quiet... none of his team even out there anwering questions... that's really troubling. When Mayor Zimmer says quite simply, "It's true", I tend to believe it. Such a statement, if false, would be easy to disprove with numbers showing how Christie spread out that $. Easily to prove her wrong, if she's lying.
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Remember during Sandy when I said he was full of shit?
here's the thing... We all have seen Christie over the past few years. The dude is fearless, he doesn't back down... Someone challenges him and let's be honest, he JUMPS to attack them for bullshit claims. He's been criticized for it, but it's who he is. Dude is an attack dog.
Now... Allegations like these are HUGE... and methinks if Christie was innocent, he'd be the one headlining all of these Suunday talk shows, proclaiming his innocence from the rooftops. When someone is 100% innocent, you bet your ass they're right up front denying it.
Christie being so quiet... none of his team even out there anwering questions... that's really troubling. When Mayor Zimmer says quite simply, "It's true", I tend to believe it. Such a statement, if false, would be easy to disprove with numbers showing how Christie spread out that $. Easily to prove her wrong, if she's lying.
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Remember during Sandy when I said he was full of shit?
Yes you did. I thought you were just pissed he was snubbing Romney a few days before the election.
Turns out you were right... Imagine how NJ residents will feel when they realize they were punished so badly for the mayor they chose.
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crispy creme is a pos, just like his buddy barry
neither lifts, obviously
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Remember during Sandy when I said he was full of shit?
We all remember, but it came off as bitterness that Christie's praise of Obama's response to the crisis was giving Obama a boost in the polls that threatened to interfere with Romney's imminent LANDSLIDE :P
Yes you did. I thought you were just pissed he was snubbing Romney a few days before the election.
Turns out you were right... Imagine how NJ residents will feel when they realize they were punished so badly for the mayor they chose.
There's two ways to look at that. Many NJ Republicans were affected by the traffic jams. Many NJ Republicans will remember how the democrats DIDN'T play politics with relief funds, but their own Republican governor DID. This could have the opposite effect of rallying Dem, ...and angering Repubs into voting Dem.
I don't know if SC could handle that. :D
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/01/gov-christie-staff-attack-msnbc-181486.html
LMFAO - like this is going to work?
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/01/gov-christie-staff-attack-msnbc-181486.html
LMFAO - like this is going to work?
First off, 33, mad props for shoving shit in Christie's face - dude earned it by hurting people for political gain.
You know Christie is in deep shite when he's resorted to killing the messenger lol.
Everyone knows when a person resorts to attacking the person repeating the message, they have ZERO argument for it.
Plus, let's not forget how much Christie LOVED msnbc in the past. Dude's been a fixture on that network.
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Wow, this isn't going to end with BridgeGate. This mayor seems to have a lot of evidence that $ was withheld for political purposes. imagine him denying certain states money after a natural disaster because he disliked their Dem governor.
US attorney inquiry into Christie widens
Source: MSNBC
The New Jersey mayor who publicly claimed this weekend that Gov. Chris Christie’s administration tried to withhold hurricane relief funds met Sunday in private with the U.S. attorney for the state of New Jersey.
“This afternoon I met with the U.S. Attorney’s office for several hours at their request and provided them with my journal and other documents,” Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer said in a statement Sunday. “As they pursue this investigation, I will provide any requested information and testify under oath about the facts of what happened when the Lieutenant Governor came to Hoboken and told me that Sandy aid would be contingent on moving forward with a private development project.”
Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/us-attorney-inquiry-christie-widens
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This is the first time something has been tied to Christie HIMSELF.
NJ mayor: Sandy aid ultimatum came from Christie
Source: Associated Press
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- The Democratic mayor of a town severely flooded by Superstorm Sandy said Sunday that she was told an ultimatum tying recovery funds to her support for a prime real estate project came directly from Republican Gov. Chris Christie, a claim a Christie spokesman called "categorically false."
Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer told CNN's "State of the Union with Candy Crowley" that the message pushing a Rockefeller Group commercial development was delivered by Christie's lieutenant governor, Kim Guadagno, when the two were at an event in Hoboken in May to celebrate the opening of a new supermarket.
"The lieutenant governor pulled me aside and said, essentially, `You've got to move forward with the Rockefeller project. This project is really important to the governor.' And she said that she had been with him on Friday night and that this was a direct message from the governor," Zimmer recalled Guadagno saying.
Hoboken, a low-lying city of 50,000 across from Manhattan, was nearly swallowed by the Hudson River during Sandy, with three of its electrical substations and most of its firehouses flooded, businesses and homes submerged, the train station inundated with water, and people trapped in high-rises because elevators didn't work and lobbies were underwater. Zimmer has proposed a comprehensive flood mitigation plan and has applied for $100 million in grants to help make it happen.
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CHRISTIE_TRAFFIC_JAMS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-01-19-18-57-32
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Tip of thr iceberg.
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This is the first time something has been tied to Christie HIMSELF.
NJ mayor: Sandy aid ultimatum came from Christie
Source: Associated Press
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) -- The Democratic mayor of a town severely flooded by Superstorm Sandy said Sunday that she was told an ultimatum tying recovery funds to her support for a prime real estate project came directly from Republican Gov. Chris Christie, a claim a Christie spokesman called "categorically false."
Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer told CNN's "State of the Union with Candy Crowley" that the message pushing a Rockefeller Group commercial development was delivered by Christie's lieutenant governor, Kim Guadagno, when the two were at an event in Hoboken in May to celebrate the opening of a new supermarket.
"The lieutenant governor pulled me aside and said, essentially, `You've got to move forward with the Rockefeller project. This project is really important to the governor.' And she said that she had been with him on Friday night and that this was a direct message from the governor," Zimmer recalled Guadagno saying.
Hoboken, a low-lying city of 50,000 across from Manhattan, was nearly swallowed by the Hudson River during Sandy, with three of its electrical substations and most of its firehouses flooded, businesses and homes submerged, the train station inundated with water, and people trapped in high-rises because elevators didn't work and lobbies were underwater. Zimmer has proposed a comprehensive flood mitigation plan and has applied for $100 million in grants to help make it happen.
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CHRISTIE_TRAFFIC_JAMS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-01-19-18-57-32
From where I sit "BridgeGate" wasn't that big of a deal but this new scandal is much, much more serious.
This is some Thailand-level corruption and I think some serious penalties are in order for those responsible.
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From where I sit "BridgeGate" wasn't that big of a deal but this new scandal is much, much more serious.
This is some Thailand-level corruption and I think some serious penalties are in order for those responsible.
Bridgegate made thousands late, and maybe cost one woman in ambulance her life.
You're right... this scandal kept thousands HOMELESS or living in 2 feet of water in their home - because christie wanted to punish his political enemies. Imagine living with roaches for 9 months because you have a dem mayor you didnt vote for.
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Bridgegate made thousands late, and maybe cost one woman in ambulance her life.
You're right... this scandal kept thousands HOMELESS or living in 2 feet of water in their home - because christie wanted to punish his political enemies. Imagine living with roaches for 9 months because you have a dem mayor you didnt vote for.
This is the difference between conserves and libs, generally. No repubs are defending Christie because this bs is simply unacceptable. But w libs when its the pos commie rat that they voted for doing stuff like this - its perfectly ok w them.
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This is the difference between conserves and libs, generally. No repubs are defending Christie because this bs is simply unacceptable. But w libs when its the pos commie rat that they voted for doing stuff like this - its perfectly ok w them.
qft
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at some point, nobody is going to believe "My whole inner circle knew, but I didn't...."
If this statement was true, Obama's approval number would be 0%.
Like 3333 stated:
This is the difference between conserves and libs, generally. No repubs are defending Christie because this bs is simply unacceptable. But w libs when its the pos commie rat that they voted for doing stuff like this - its perfectly ok w them.
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This is the difference between conserves and libs, generally. No repubs are defending Christie because this bs is simply unacceptable. But w libs when its the pos commie rat that they voted for doing stuff like this - its perfectly ok w them.
Spot on.
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Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner angrily warned the chairman of Standard & Poor's parent that the rating agency would be held accountable for its 2011 decision to strip the United States of its coveted "triple-A" rating, a new court filing shows.
Harold McGraw, the chairman of McGraw-Hill Financial Inc , made the statement in a declaration filed by S&P on Monday, as it defends against the government's $5 billion fraud lawsuit over its rating practices prior to the 2008 financial crisis.
McGraw said he returned a call from Geithner on Aug. 8, 2011, three days after S&P cut the U.S. credit rating to "AA-plus," and that Geithner told him "you are accountable" for an alleged "huge error" in S&P's work.
"He said that 'you have done an enormous disservice to yourselves and to your country,'" and that S&P's conduct would be "looked at very carefully," McGraw said. "Such behavior could not occur, he said, without a response from the government."
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This is the difference between conserves and libs, generally. No repubs are defending Christie because this bs is simply unacceptable. But w libs when its the pos commie rat that they voted for doing stuff like this - its perfectly ok w them.
Spot on.
When did Obama hold relief disaster funds hostage?
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Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner angrily warned the chairman of Standard & Poor's parent that the rating agency would be held accountable for its 2011 decision to strip the United States of its coveted "triple-A" rating, a new court filing shows.
Harold McGraw, the chairman of McGraw-Hill Financial Inc , made the statement in a declaration filed by S&P on Monday, as it defends against the government's $5 billion fraud lawsuit over its rating practices prior to the 2008 financial crisis.
McGraw said he returned a call from Geithner on Aug. 8, 2011, three days after S&P cut the U.S. credit rating to "AA-plus," and that Geithner told him "you are accountable" for an alleged "huge error" in S&P's work.
"He said that 'you have done an enormous disservice to yourselves and to your country,'" and that S&P's conduct would be "looked at very carefully," McGraw said. "Such behavior could not occur, he said, without a response from the government."
While the timing & circumstance are somewhat questionable, ...were you aware that the Government was in the process of investigating S&P at the time? It is debatable whose actions were retaliatory if at all.