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"Firefighters, police and other public workers in a Pennsylvania city saw their wages slashed to minimum wage rates on Friday, in a move by the cash-strapped city to balance its budget, city officials said.
Scranton's public workers would be paid $7.25 an hour "indefinitely" starting with Friday's paychecks as part of a plan initiated by the mayor, Chris Doherty."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/06/us-usa-pennsylvania-wages-idUSBRE86513O20120706
Any of you guys live in Scranton?
Next up Cali, NJ, etc.
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Holy fuck!
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The promises our teachers made. If we worked hard, if we behaved....
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Well, I don't live in Scranton, PA.. but I do live in Pennsylvania, and from my experience unions have a MASSIVE stranglehold on this state and public workers are vastly overpaid for their skill levels. I know teachers making $75k a year and garbage men with a high school degree making over $55k. I should mention the cost of living in PA is generally very low, outside of Philly too. So this is a lot of money.
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75k?!?!?! Hobnobbing with Warren Buffet and driving an almost paid for 2006 Camry on that kind of salary, Im sure.
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75k?!?!?! Hobnobbing with Warren Buffet and driving an almost paid for 2006 Camry on that kind of salary, Im sure.
LOL, sadly around here that is actually a good amount of money.. He works literally half the year and brags about coming home during his free period lol. The private school teachers get paid about half here and provide a MUCH superior education. It is quite sad.
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Well, I don't live in Scranton, PA.. but I do live in Pennsylvania, and from my experience unions have a MASSIVE stranglehold on this state and public workers are vastly overpaid for their skill levels. I know teachers making $75k a year and garbage men with a high school degree making over $55k. I should mention the cost of living in PA is generally very low, outside of Philly too. So this is a lot of money.
Good to know
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Well, I don't live in Scranton, PA.. but I do live in Pennsylvania, and from my experience unions have a MASSIVE stranglehold on this state and public workers are vastly overpaid for their skill levels. I know teachers making $75k a year and garbage men with a high school degree making over $55k. I should mention the cost of living in PA is generally very low, outside of Philly too. So this is a lot of money.
So Pennsylvania and Switzerland swope places?
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Most civil service workers are clerks. Not police and firemen.
just sayin.....
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"Firefighters, police and other public workers in a Pennsylvania city saw their wages slashed to minimum wage rates on Friday, in a move by the cash-strapped city to balance its budget, city officials said.
Scranton's public workers would be paid $7.25 an hour "indefinitely" starting with Friday's paychecks as part of a plan initiated by the mayor, Chris Doherty."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/06/us-usa-pennsylvania-wages-idUSBRE86513O20120706
Any of you guys live in Scranton?
Next up Cali, NJ, etc.
Public sector unions are locusts and need to be banned.
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LOL at Scranton. I can imagine the crime with the gangs and the one black person that lives there.
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Who cares? I know it will sting for these guys to take a hit, but they don't do anything to justify their salaries. Now, I'm sure someone will post about how their mom is a civil servant and works hard or whatever, but for the most part, they are shit. All govt jobs should be privatized. I have a buddy who works for a municipality and he does shit. I mean less than shit. Drives around all day dodging work. His boss goes to lowes and gets lumber for his model trains. The amount of government waste is brutal. They can come work for me and get a decent/deserved wage. And, as far a unions up north, fuck them. I bid some work in Jersey/Philly area and I had to get in touch with two separate unions. One for labor and one for equiplenty operators. I thought, what a fucking joke, to pay some asshole to stand around and watch my guys work while he does shit.
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This is why Michael Scott left.
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75k?!?!?! Hobnobbing with Warren Buffet and driving an almost paid for 2006 Camry on that kind of salary, Im sure.
$75k goes a long way in different places.
For example in Chicago, Southern California, NYC....etc that salary is average/below average.
In Pennsylvania, places in Florida...etc you can live like a king. A buddy of a buddy bought a place outside of Erie on 10 acres for $50K cash with a 2 bedroom house
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$75k goes a long way in different places.
For example in Chicago, Southern California, NYC....etc that salary is average/below average.
In Pennsylvania, places in Florida...etc you can live like a king. A buddy of a buddy bought a place outside of Erie on 10 acres for $50K cash with a 2 bedroom house
^^^ I live in Erie. It is RIDICULOUSLY cheap, everything is. It also makes people delusional when they never leave the city and think $5 for a cover and $4 for a drink is wayyyyy to much lol. Erie is a cess pool and I am happy to be moving in September. I have unfortunately been stuck here all my life.
A kid I played football with in high school moved from New Jersey, his parents had a million dollar home here. He said it would have been around 7-8 in New Jersey.
People think 50-60k is a great job around here. It is kind of sad and depressing.
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"Firefighters, police and other public workers in a Pennsylvania city saw their wages slashed to minimum wage rates on Friday, in a move by the cash-strapped city to balance its budget, city officials said.
Scranton's public workers would be paid $7.25 an hour "indefinitely" starting with Friday's paychecks as part of a plan initiated by the mayor, Chris Doherty."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/06/us-usa-pennsylvania-wages-idUSBRE86513O20120706
Any of you guys live in Scranton?
Next up Cali, NJ, etc.
40 some odd miles from scranton, if you want to go back in time say 20 to 30 years go to hazelton pa, they're just now learning what vhs stands for.
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Isn't that where the Dracula is from ?
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to make it bbing. best bber from scranton probably was....
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Isn't that where the Dracula is from ?
no, but that's where lou barletta's is from alot of people think he's worse than dracula.
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Well, I don't live in Scranton, PA.. but I do live in Pennsylvania, and from my experience unions have a MASSIVE stranglehold on this state and public workers are vastly overpaid for their skill levels. I know teachers making $75k a year and garbage men with a high school degree making over $55k. I should mention the cost of living in PA is generally very low, outside of Philly too. So this is a lot of money.
It's good that teachers are making 75k, if only that was the starting salary (you never stated how far up the tier they are). If starting pay was 75-85k, you'd get better quality teachers. Afterall, they have to deal with "your" (as in America) poor behaving, spoiled, bratty kids, and are expected to be the mothers and fathers that their parents aren't.
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heard this story on the John and Ken show on KFI
Prison Dentist in california was getting $621,000 a year
http://www.thewealthydentist.com/blog/1341/california-to-lay-off-prison-dentists/ (http://www.thewealthydentist.com/blog/1341/california-to-lay-off-prison-dentists/)
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It's good that teachers are making 75k, if only that was the starting salary (you never stated how far up the tier they are). If starting pay was 75-85k, you'd get better quality teachers. Afterall, they have to deal with "your" (as in America) poor behaving, spoiled, bratty kids, and are expected to be the mothers and fathers that their parents aren't.
They have been a teacher for 4 years now, I am unsure of his starting pay. The school district he is in provides a horrible education and catholic private schools basically run Erie County in education. It is sad they have high quality educations, and MUCH more effective teachers getting paid about $40k a year with not the same benefits. I know there is more that goes into it why schools are better and so forth... My uncle is actually on the school board for the city of erie as of this year. The spending is out of control there. I worked as a janitor in the summer for my summer job a few years ago.. Janitors were making $28/hr with full benefits. Every teacher I knew who worked for a public school as a teacher was a borderline retard anyways. Schools are also financed by the property taxes of the district.. so you will have some amazing looking schools, with great equipment and teachers and respectable students because their families are well off.. Then you have the hood rats, where the city is struggling with the budget, but the teachers REFUSE to take a pay cut and will actually go on strike if it is even mentioned. The teachers are the most stubborn pieces of shit I have ever personally seen, they get paid extra for doing after school activities and they constantly bitch omg i have to buy my students this..if they had any common sense they would realize it is tax deductible. I have no respect for about 90% teachers. Most are complete morons who had absolutely no chance of becoming something in the real world. Don't get me wrong there are some awesome teachers out there, but after working at a school, knowing a bunch of public school teachers, going to school with a bunch of teachers, etc.. they should be paid a joke of a salary for their 180days of "working" 8-3.
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Land of opportunity.
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^^^ I live in Erie. It is RIDICULOUSLY cheap, everything is. It also makes people delusional when they never leave the city and think $5 for a cover and $4 for a drink is wayyyyy to much lol. Erie is a cess pool and I am happy to be moving in September. I have unfortunately been stuck here all my life.
A kid I played football with in high school moved from New Jersey, his parents had a million dollar home here. He said it would have been around 7-8 in New Jersey.
People think 50-60k is a great job around here. It is kind of sad and depressing.
i would be sad and depressed paying 7 -8 times more for a house in new jersey
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7.25 is RIDICULOUS!! You cant even afford to live on that if youre 1 person living in a studio apartment. BULLSHIT!
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Cut the congressmans pay to 7.25 and see how quick that lasts.
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Cut the congressmans pay to 7.25 and see how quick that lasts.
Mr Morris, I like you, but that's silly. A congressman, no matter which side you pull from, is 1000000x's more intelligent and important than some $7.25hr chump. People make that amount of money for a reason. BTW, how's Bayside?
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Tim Lincemum 's paycheck should also be slashed to $7.25 an hour
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Mr Morris, I like you, but that's silly. A congressman, no matter which side you pull from, is 1000000x's more intelligent and important than some $7.25hr chump. People make that amount of money for a reason. BTW, how's Bayside?
True, I understand where you're coming from. But come on, $7.25 an hour? People at fastfood make more. It sad when you can make more money flipping burgers than being a fireman. And I would not consider being a fireman a chump? You need some intelligence and wit. I am not saying they have to make as much as a congressman, but $7.25. Really?
I like you, too :)
Bayside is rockin'
and i was also exaggerating for effect...i dont think a congressman should make 7.25 an hour, but i dont think a fireman should either.
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They have been a teacher for 4 years now, I am unsure of his starting pay. The school district he is in provides a horrible education and catholic private schools basically run Erie County in education. It is sad they have high quality educations, and MUCH more effective teachers getting paid about $40k a year with not the same benefits. I know there is more that goes into it why schools are better and so forth... My uncle is actually on the school board for the city of erie as of this year. The spending is out of control there. I worked as a janitor in the summer for my summer job a few years ago.. Janitors were making $28/hr with full benefits. Every teacher I knew who worked for a public school as a teacher was a borderline retard anyways. Schools are also financed by the property taxes of the district.. so you will have some amazing looking schools, with great equipment and teachers and respectable students because their families are well off.. Then you have the hood rats, where the city is struggling with the budget, but the teachers REFUSE to take a pay cut and will actually go on strike if it is even mentioned. The teachers are the most stubborn pieces of shit I have ever personally seen, they get paid extra for doing after school activities and they constantly bitch omg i have to buy my students this..if they had any common
sense they would realize it is tax deductible. I have no respect for about 90% teachers. Most are complete
morons who had absolutely no chance of becoming something in the real world. Don't get me wrong there are
some awesome teachers out there, but after working at a school, knowing a bunch of public school teachers, going
to school with a bunch of teachers, etc.. they should be paid a joke of a salary for their 180days of "working" 8-3.
My mother was a teacher for 42 yrs, taught at some of the better public schools in our county. The worst kids by far were not the hoodrats, but the spoiled brats---the parents expected grades to be "given"....that is the problem, a lot of kids today have weighted grades (inflated) and expect things to be given to them, this was fostered by their baby boomer parents, who give everything to their kids.
Private schools tend to have strict standards, and you are paying for them to go, but the teachers are generally paid less. With many public school districts, you are expected to get your masters in a certain number of yrs (also one must pass the Praxis exam to be certified). Many get their masters and move onto Administration, nobody wants to deal with the kids---and the bigger problem, the parents. Every parent thinks their kid belongs in above average, nobody is average or below average, unless you are poor or black or Latino.
Now, that being said, many of the people going into teaching today are not the same caliber as those from the Baby Boomer era, as most teachers used to be women, now that more women are going into other fields, many of the ones who go into teaching are "less" qualified to do other things...plus, the pay isn't all that great.
As far as 8-3, you try dealing with a classroom of kids, giving the structure, and teaching a lesson. There are dudes who come from 30+ yr military backgrounds who can't maintain structure---because many of the students (middle class, upper middle class) don't get it at home. And we are talking middle school and high school kids here.
Plus, add the fact that many districts want you to teach to the test to meet certain standards, don't worry about the kids learning anything, worry about meeting the standard.
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Not a bad idea, but it would be a lot more efficient to just outsource the whole thing to India.
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I wouldn't piss on a spark plug in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
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Not a bad idea, but it would be a lot more efficient to just outsource the whole thing to India.
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Mitt Romney is a pioneer of outsourcing American jobs.
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