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Title: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: galain on November 04, 2019, 10:24:21 PM
Anyone tried this stuff? Is it legit or is it an expensive placebo?

My elbow is so fucked up I can't extend my arm properly anymore - either tennis elbow or bursitis, I don't know which. Can't bench, can't press, can't dip, no triceps work at all....I'm getting therapy but I'd like to help it along if possible.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 05, 2019, 01:58:36 AM
I've heard of folks swearing by it, and others calling it bunk. I know there's a big problem getting the real stuff vs. fake/bunk stuff.
(When something takes off like it did, the scammers come out in full force).
I hear from many  that cbdistillery is the place for real stuff. Havent tried from them though...
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: falco on November 05, 2019, 02:06:46 AM
I use it for moderate pain relief from shoulder chronic tendonitis.
For acute pain cases i found it to be useless. Diclofenac will do a much better job.
I believe that due to its claimed lesser toxicity it has a place in long term usage for moderate pain and inflamation relief
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: IroNat on November 05, 2019, 03:17:22 AM
If you have tennis elbow or whatnot you need to rest the arm.

Take up a new hobby like reading books for awhile.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: kreator on November 05, 2019, 04:49:36 AM
DMSO, look it up. Use it 3-4x a day, helped me with my ankle issues a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Powerlift66 on November 05, 2019, 05:19:15 AM
DMSO, look it up. Use it 3-4x a day, helped me with my ankle issues a couple of weeks ago.

Causes goat-breath though, no??
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: kreator on November 05, 2019, 05:30:14 AM
Causes goat-breath though, no??

I didn’t notice anything. Have read that some people have though. Maybe if u take it orally, don’t know.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: milone79 on November 05, 2019, 07:40:51 AM
I wanted to like it but CBD oil did sweet fawk all for anything I have ever taken it for!!! Save your $$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: MAXX on November 05, 2019, 08:15:38 AM
If you have tennis elbow or whatnot you need to rest the arm.

Take up a new hobby like reading books for awhile.
some things pointing to light, meaning very light resistance training helps tendons and ligaments healing faster.

like light rubberband resistance 100+ reps type. bloodflow to the tendon => more nutrition to heal the tendon.

ofcourse not the first few weeks, but in the rehab phase after that.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: ESFitness on November 05, 2019, 09:27:41 AM
I know a girl who says this shit works.

How exactly is the CBD getting into the body? Just putting something in oil and expecting it to enter the bloodstream? Why don't we just rub test cyp on our arms then?

Idiots.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: jpm101 on November 05, 2019, 10:38:10 AM
CBD comes in  creams , oils and roll on's. Also oral drops taken under the tongue.

I was a bit doubtful at first, but hearing some of the results from family, friends and even athletic training centers, I'm becoming somewhat convinced.

Seems to reduce pain, but if you have a complete tendon rupture/tear for example, it's not going to heal that. That will require surgery.  But with a minor rupture it appears that it may aid in healing at a faster pace than most any other lotions, creams, etc. And reduce pain. Getting into the blood capillaries, it does appear to work well, Don't need a lot of the stuff, lightly massage into the area is what most people do. For general muscle soreness, some athletes and regular people, give it a thumbs up.

Taking it orally, with a dropper  under the tongue,  insures that it enters the blood stream quickly. And the best way of seeing that it gets into the blood stream totally.  People rave about the affects they are getting, less pain, and a feeling of better health and motivation. I'll have to take their word for it, not trying it myself. But a lot of good claims of the benefits of the under the tongue method.

 Just to note:  CBD and Hemp oil are different products. CBD has the THC (the get you high/mellow stuff) removed when processed from the Hemp plant.  Hemp oil has very low levels of CBD and that's the stuff you want.

Might suggest doing some searches on CBD if interested. And also the grade and prices. They can go from very bad to very good grades. See if any CBD  product have a lab research seal on them, for a start. Lot of CBD scams out there.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: galain on November 05, 2019, 02:09:41 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

Just a bit of background. Elbow pain is most likely caused by long standing rotator cuff problems. Working on them.

Wasn't thinking topical so much as ingestible cbd - caps or oil. Will check into DMSO also.

Much appreciated guys - thank you.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: jpm101 on November 05, 2019, 02:38:29 PM
Under the tongue drops will be your best bet for near complete absorption into the tissue/blood. Also have gummy CBD's.

With the dropper you can adjust the amounts of the CBD.  If you have a 1oz bottle of 1000mg, you might want to try half that dose to 500mg and see how the body reacts. Everyone is different and some may not need a full dose.

A couple of guys I personally know have a CDB bottle in their gym bag. They take a hit after workouts and just started doing that last week. Interesting  to see what results, if any, may happen.

CBD works very well on older people, of what I have read. Relief of pain and a better all around feeling better. Work a try, I guess.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: rayshow on February 03, 2020, 11:39:50 AM
The best thing you can do is trying a few proven CBD clones and also other different strains and find out what works best for you. Girl Scout Cookie strain works best for me (https://www.fvkasa.org/strain/girl-scout-cookies).

Each one is different, so what works for me doesn't need to work for you, even if you have the same issue.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: IRON CROSS on February 03, 2020, 12:08:29 PM
Anyone tried this stuff? Is it legit or is it an expensive placebo?

My elbow is so fucked up I can't extend my arm properly anymore - either tennis elbow or bursitis, I don't know which. Can't bench, can't press, can't dip, no triceps work at all....I'm getting therapy but I'd like to help it along if possible.



CORTISONE injection for tennis elbow, visit sport MD !.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: robcguns on February 03, 2020, 12:22:45 PM
Real cbd from dispensaries is legit.The stuff you buy online or at the local store is bullshit.Yes it works for all kinda of issues.I take it for anxiety,sleep and I get cbd cream and put on my shoulders and lower back and it definitely is noticeable.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Griffith on February 03, 2020, 09:53:36 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

Just a bit of background. Elbow pain is most likely caused by long standing rotator cuff problems. Working on them.

Wasn't thinking topical so much as ingestible cbd - caps or oil. Will check into DMSO also.

Much appreciated guys - thank you.

DMSO does work but its extremely potent in transferring any substance or chemical in contact with it into the skin. Make sure your hands are clean and you don't touch anything else like plastic or dyed fabric etc.

DMSO alone undiluted burns the skin, so I would first put castor oil on the area first, which will also be absorbed to help inflammation. Sometimes I would also rub aspirin over the oil to increase absorbtion locally.

However, what worked best for me was acupuncture.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: tommywishbone on February 03, 2020, 10:31:29 PM
CBD oil for:

Insomnia
Cancer
Bad muffler
No cash
Pink eye
Stink eye
Weak beer
Sick dog
Bad cabinets
Dirty refrigerator


 ::)
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 04, 2020, 11:23:54 AM
If you can't get it from a legit medical marijuana dispensary then just save your money.

I've always found the creams to be better than any other kind of method of delivery.  For pain that is.  I guess the oral drops or gummies would be better for helping with sleep or anxiety.  I don't know.  I didn't use it for that.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: illuminati on February 04, 2020, 12:20:41 PM
CBD oil for:

Insomnia
Cancer
Bad muffler
No cash
Pink eye
Stink eye
Weak beer
Sick dog
Bad cabinets
Dirty refrigerator


 ::)


No Cash - You Say Damn I’d Better Get a load of it ASAP.
Thanks for the Advises
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: _bruce_ on February 04, 2020, 02:38:38 PM
Thanks for all the replies.

Just a bit of background. Elbow pain is most likely caused by long standing rotator cuff problems. Working on them.

Wasn't thinking topical so much as ingestible cbd - caps or oil. Will check into DMSO also.

Much appreciated guys - thank you.

If you haven't already get your back / neck / arms taken care of. All of the elbow problems I was facing vanished after taking care of neck / shoulder and forearm region.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 04, 2020, 05:22:28 PM
Topical solutions of cbd yielded no help for me. Inhaling has helped with some anxiety. Nothing else note worthy.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: oldtimer1 on February 04, 2020, 08:22:15 PM

CORTISONE injection for tennis elbow, visit sport MD !.

I've had 7 cortisone injections through the years. Sometimes it has been the magic cure for me. It can be dangerous for connective tissue because it can weaken it. Now this is bro science but I think with age and decades of training tendons and ligaments can become tough and inflexible that is prone to tears. Cortisone drastically takes out inflammation and makes connective tissue pliable again. It doesn't work well for a lot of problems but when it works it's a miracle. I had plantar fascitis so bad I could barely walk. One shot cured it and it never returned. I had a bad shoulder years ago and a doc shot my shoulder up and it was drastically better. Now my shoulder hurts and sounds like it's grinding and this surgeon said he won't do cortisone because it weaken tendons and I lift weights.   I think if you get repeated shots it can happen but getting a shot or two as needed can work wonders. Some say it's a temporary fix but I disagree. Naturally it's not going to repair a torn tendon, ligament or labrum. 
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: POB on February 05, 2020, 03:49:58 AM

CORTISONE injection for tennis elbow, visit sport MD !.

Coritisone is one of the worst things to put in your body and will eat what ever soft tissue you have left. If your planning on replacing the joint at some point anyway it will give you relief instantly but you’ll keep needing a shot sooner and sooner till the joint needs to be replaced.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: POB on February 05, 2020, 03:54:10 AM
I've had 7 cortisone injections through the years. Sometimes it has been the magic cure for me. It can be dangerous for connective tissue because it can weaken it. Now this is bro science but I think with age and decades of training tendons and ligaments can become tough and inflexible that is prone to tears. Cortisone drastically takes out inflammation and makes connective tissue pliable again. It doesn't work well for a lot of problems but when it works it's a miracle. I had plantar fascitis so bad I could barely walk. One shot cured it and it never returned. I had a bad shoulder years ago and a doc shot my shoulder up and it was drastically better. Now my shoulder hurts and sounds like it's grinding and this surgeon said he won't do cortisone because it weaken tendons and I lift weights.   I think if you get repeated shots it can happen but getting a shot or two as needed can work wonders. Some say it's a temporary fix but I disagree. Naturally it's not going to repair a torn tendon, ligament or labrum. 

Only reason it worked for the plantar fasciitis is because you only got one shot. It prob masked the pain till it healed. If you got more than that no doubt you would need Surgury at some point
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: POB on February 05, 2020, 03:58:06 AM
https://nashvilleregenerative.com/2018/07/26/steroid-injections-dangers-and-side-effects-of-cortisone-shots/

Some reading and keep in mind cortisone steroids for pain are basically the opposite of a anabolic steroid
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Griffith on February 05, 2020, 05:04:09 AM
Only reason it worked for the plantar fasciitis is because you only got one shot. It prob masked the pain till it healed. If you got more than that no doubt you would need Surgury at some point

Or got rid of the chronic inflammation and allowed it to heal.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on February 05, 2020, 12:40:58 PM
It might help you manage the pain somewhat but I doubt that it has any kind of curative antiinflammatory properties.

Ask your physical therapist for recommendations
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: deadz on February 05, 2020, 02:16:03 PM
Cortisone 👎
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on February 05, 2020, 08:06:36 PM
if you can handle it and nerves of steel..... cold water plunge/therapy.

I signed up for a recovery Studio and they have a cold water tank :42 degree water. i usually go up my neck for 6-8 minutes.

its fucking brutal but I am feeling so much better.  crushes inflammation. 
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: IRON CROSS on February 05, 2020, 08:36:05 PM
if you can handle it and nerves of steel..... cold water plunge/therapy.

I signed up for a recovery Studio and they have a cold water tank :42 degree water. i usually go up my neck for 6-8 minutes.

its fucking brutal but I am feeling so much better.  crushes inflammation. 


What about George Costanza 'shrinkage'  ;D
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: pellius on February 05, 2020, 08:36:34 PM
I know a girl who says this shit works.

How exactly is the CBD getting into the body? Just putting something in oil and expecting it to enter the bloodstream? Why don't we just rub test cyp on our arms then?

Idiots.

Don't they make Test applied topically?
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: galain on February 05, 2020, 11:32:50 PM
Thanks guys for keeping the thread alive.

Since my first post I've been rotating been two therapists and have started doing a lot of brachialis/brachoradialis work which seems to have helped a lot. Never did get my hands on any cbd oil!
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Griffith on February 06, 2020, 12:00:03 AM
Cortisone 👎

Fixed my knee up after basically being a cripple for over a year. Nothing worked. The fat pad was inflamed. Couldn't even do a body weight squat without being in pain for days. Needed two shots, and rapidly improved, now I can walk properly with no pain, squat and leg press again.

In certain cases, it's like a miracle drug.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 07, 2020, 09:01:07 AM

CORTISONE injection for tennis elbow, visit sport MD !.


CORTISONE unfortunately causes degradation of joint cartilage and tendon/ligaments, hence why they limit the amount of times a person can use it.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: robcguns on February 07, 2020, 09:31:30 AM
if you can handle it and nerves of steel..... cold water plunge/therapy.

I signed up for a recovery Studio and they have a cold water tank :42 degree water. i usually go up my neck for 6-8 minutes.

its fucking brutal but I am feeling so much better.  crushes inflammation. 

That sounds horrible.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: SAMSON123 on February 07, 2020, 09:49:13 AM
The BEST CBD oil is derived from the CANNABIS plant... not HEMP

While HEMP has minute amounts of THC, it is not enough to elicit the ENDOCANNABINOID response from your body like it needs to.

The Endocannabinoid system every human/animal has is what repairs/regenerates tissue as well as controls the neurological system/Immunological system, Digestive system and so much more.

This Endocannabinoid system is what destroys CANCER/LEUKEMIA/NEUROLOGICAL CONDITIONS/SPEEDS HEALING etc... and just about every situation/condition a person can encounter other than DEATH.

It is this derived CBD/THC that you want
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: tres_taco_combo on February 07, 2020, 09:41:26 PM
That sounds horrible.

its honestly takes balls to get into that ice cold water.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: SamuelR on March 16, 2020, 12:13:10 PM
I’ve been using CBD oils (https://www.weednews.co/best-cbd-oil/) for about 4 months now.
I do feel much better (in a non specific way), am sleeping better, have noticed less pain in my injured knees, it seems be helping significantly.
I did some research before I started and feel fairly knowledgeable. My Dr has no objections so I continue on it...
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Griffith on March 16, 2020, 01:28:25 PM
I’ve been using CBD oils for about 4 months now.
I do feel much better (in a non specific way), am sleeping better, have noticed less pain in my injured knees, it seems be helping significantly.
I did some research before I started and feel fairly knowledgeable. My Dr has no objections so I continue on it...

Anything to look out for when buying the best type of CBD oil?

I see there are different types.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: POB on March 16, 2020, 03:00:19 PM
if you can handle it and nerves of steel..... cold water plunge/therapy.

I signed up for a recovery Studio and they have a cold water tank :42 degree water. i usually go up my neck for 6-8 minutes.

its fucking brutal but I am feeling so much better.  crushes inflammation. 

I 2nd this and if u can’t just Ice is under rated you just have to do it every day
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 16, 2020, 09:06:07 PM
have a friend who is tied up in this Vasayo MLM scam... swears their CBD cream is the end all be all. I've been dealing with elbow pain on the insides of both elbows for months. He swears if I buy this expensive CBD cream and combine it with their $60 Turmeric digestible called "Renew it will fix it. After much badgering I agree to buy the Renew, he gives me a sample of the CBD cream. After 30 days it's gotten worse, not better. i don't volunteer the info but eventually we are over at is apartment and he asks how its working. I'm honest with him. And polite. I say it might work for others but for some reason I am not responding to it and my pain is actually worse. You would have thought I called him a dirty name. He questions whether I used it consistently, then questions my results... I'm like dude, I'm not saying your products don't work, I'm saying your products didn't work for me. the next week I see my doctor who prescribes 7 days of steroid treatment... Issue resolved.  
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: OzmO on April 16, 2020, 07:03:30 AM
The BEST CBD oil is derived from the CANNABIS plant... not HEMP

While HEMP has minute amounts of THC, it is not enough to elicit the ENDOCANNABINOID response from your body like it needs to.

The Endocannabinoid system every human/animal has is what repairs/regenerates tissue as well as controls the neurological system/Immunological system, Digestive system and so much more.

This Endocannabinoid system is what destroys CANCER/LEUKEMIA/NEUROLOGICAL CONDITIONS/SPEEDS HEALING etc... and just about every situation/condition a person can encounter other than DEATH.

It is this derived CBD/THC that you want

Not true.  cannabidoil is cannabidoil.  What separates it is the processing, emulsification, and absorption in combination with included Canabinoids, terpenes and flavinoids and how it's delivered to the body.

Further more, the Endocannabinoid system (ECS) does not repair or regenerate tissue.  CBD  supplements the body's Endocannabinoid syetem as the body produces it own "Endocannabinoids" that attach to cell receptors (CB1/CB2) either starting or stopping, speeding up or slowing a process with other body systems or cells to help it regain homeostasis.   Think of the ECS like a thermostat for the body. 

Quote
It is this derived CBD/THC that you want

Again not true, THC and CBD are very different cannbiniods with very different effects.   
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: OzmO on April 16, 2020, 07:06:21 AM
have a friend who is tied up in this Vasayo MLM scam... swears their CBD cream is the end all be all. I've been dealing with elbow pain on the insides of both elbows for months. He swears if I buy this expensive CBD cream and combine it with their $60 Turmeric digestible called "Renew it will fix it. After much badgering I agree to buy the Renew, he gives me a sample of the CBD cream. After 30 days it's gotten worse, not better. i don't volunteer the info but eventually we are over at is apartment and he asks how its working. I'm honest with him. And polite. I say it might work for others but for some reason I am not responding to it and my pain is actually worse. You would have thought I called him a dirty name. He questions whether I used it consistently, then questions my results... I'm like dude, I'm not saying your products don't work, I'm saying your products didn't work for me. the next week I see my doctor who prescribes 7 days of steroid treatment... Issue resolved.  

Not all CBD is equal.  Look for the US Hemp Authority Seal on the bottle or jar.  There are lots of bogus products out there. 
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 16, 2020, 07:15:27 AM
Don't they make Test applied topically?

I have the same idea as ESFitness. These CBD creams aren't formulated with effective carriers like different transdermal drugs. Lots of testimonials saying they "work" but the question is how? I don't think it's by the CBD getting into circulation, must be some type of surface analgesic effect on the skin or it's just imaginary.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on April 16, 2020, 02:31:24 PM

Eat coconuts !.


Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: illuminati on April 16, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
have a friend who is tied up in this Vasayo MLM scam... swears their CBD cream is the end all be all. I've been dealing with elbow pain on the insides of both elbows for months. He swears if I buy this expensive CBD cream and combine it with their $60 Turmeric digestible called "Renew it will fix it. After much badgering I agree to buy the Renew, he gives me a sample of the CBD cream. After 30 days it's gotten worse, not better. i don't volunteer the info but eventually we are over at is apartment and he asks how its working. I'm honest with him. And polite. I say it might work for others but for some reason I am not responding to it and my pain is actually worse. You would have thought I called him a dirty name. He questions whether I used it consistently, then questions my results... I'm like dude, I'm not saying your products don't work, I'm saying your products didn't work for me. the next week I see my doctor who prescribes 7 days of steroid treatment... Issue resolved.  

Some People Can’t Handle The Truth
Tough luck for Him.

So what he wanted was you to Lie & Blow Smoke Up His Arse & Say it Worked Great. 🙄
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: rayshow on May 05, 2020, 10:34:44 AM
It definitely works. Started on CBD oil for anxiety (https://www.weednews.co/best-cbd-gummies/) but the biggest impact has been on my wrist. Unbelievably but pain completely gone.

I ran out of CBD when I was on holiday for 3 weeks in the summer and the wrist pain came back. Took a couple of big doses of CBD when I got some and it disappeared in a day.

Wonderful stuff.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: pellius on May 05, 2020, 06:26:43 PM
It definitely works. Started on CBD oil for anxiety but the biggest impact has been on my wrist. Unbelievably but pain completely gone.

I ran out of CBD when I was on holiday for 3 weeks in the summer and the wrist pain came back. Took a couple of big doses of CBD when I got some and it disappeared in a day.

Wonderful stuff.

When you say you took big doses are you taking it orally?
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Griffith on May 06, 2020, 07:48:16 AM
When buying CBD oil, what should we be looking for on the label?
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 06, 2020, 08:30:30 AM
When buying CBD oil, what should we be looking for on the label?

Probably look for some third party analysis of their product. I certainly don't trust the CBD market.

I bought some CBD flower, came with a COA stating it's 14% CBD. The COA could be faked but at least I can see that it's plant material  :D
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on May 06, 2020, 02:01:13 PM
Again, eat coconuts !.
Title: Re: CBD oil for injuries?
Post by: OzmO on May 07, 2020, 11:14:46 AM
When buying CBD oil, what should we be looking for on the label?

Look for this:  (https://cdn.benzinga.com/files/imagecache/1024x768xUP/images/story/2012/screen_shot_2019-08-02_at_14.18.05.png)

COA's can be faked and there is very little regulation from the FDA at the moment.  The US Hemp roundtable has a program that insures quality.  A manufacturer has to past an audit/inspection of their facilities to receive that seal.   

Also, their website should have third party lab test posted.