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Who the fuck or should I say HOW the fuck does someone do skull crushers with an Olympic bar with 45 lb plates on each side? LMAO! I mean seriously............I've been in a lot of fucking gyms and seen a lot of guys train but I've yet to see ANYONE ever do skull crushers with an Olympic bar let alone with 45lb plates on each side?
I could imagine someone doing close grip bench presses or french presses with an Olympic bar and with 45lb plates obviously. But skull crushers? :o
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I used an Olympic bar when the ez bar was taken once.
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I used an Olympic bar when the ez bar was taken once.
Ok. I was think a regular sized Olympic bar. You mean a straight bar with Olympic collars?
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Are you saying it's too heavy or too awkward or what?
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Are you saying it's too heavy or too awkward or what?
Both. I can understand a small straight bar with Olympic collars and 45's on each side. But a full length Olympic bar with 45lbs on each side? I honestly never seen ANYONE ever do that. And yes that does seem like a helluva lot of weight for simple skull crushers. I've never seen a probodybuilder do it. Although I've never seen a pro do squats on a ball either so just because they don't do it doesn't mean no one does or can't.
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I've seen it, and done it myself. I did not care for it though, because the length of the bar didn't make balance the easiest thing, nor was the positioning on the bench. I found I either had to spin around reverse of a normal bench press or be hanging so far off the bench it just felt-and looked-silly.
Some guys, the one I first saw do it, do not have heavy enough pre-made BB's to use. If they can use 150+lbs on Skullcrushers, the heaviest I've seen at any of the gyms I've seen is 110#. So, for them, it makes sense.
I still don't advocate it though.
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Who the fuck or should I say HOW the fuck does someone do skull crushers with an Olympic bar with 45 lb plates on each side? LMAO! I mean seriously............I've been in a lot of fucking gyms and seen a lot of guys train but I've yet to see ANYONE ever do skull crushers with an Olympic bar let alone with 45lb plates on each side?
I could imagine someone doing close grip bench presses or french presses with an Olympic bar and with 45lb plates obviously. But skull crushers? :o
I take it you've never seen Stay Hungry. Arnold does it in the film. ;D
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MM,
I've seen a lot of guys do it in the gym I went to... Most of them prefer to use a shorter bar b/c of the balance issue, but it is not that much weight.
Why do you not believe this is a possibility?
BTW, I've seen one guy do one-armed dumbbell rows with the olympic bar and 45's on each end b/c the dumbbells only went up to 100 lbs.
I could understand doing one arm dumbell rows if you really had to but still that's silly as hell anyways. I've never seen anyone do that in a gym either.
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OK, MuscleMcMannus. Take it down a notch. It's not like a saw a flying pig. ::)
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OK, MuscleMcMannus. Take it down a notch. It's not like a saw a flying pig. ::)
Huh? I didn't say anything to you.
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lol it's not that hard. I did them at around 18-19 years old and triceps are not my best bodypart.
Haven't really done them since. But I do curls with it. :D
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Actually that's only 135 and SK'ers are partial reps only. Seen a few 300+ in that tricep exercise. Most guy's prefer an EZ bar.
Seen one arm BB curls with an Olympic bar. Hit's a lot of supporting muscles around and under the biceps. As well as the forearms. Different slant on bicep work. Of course the one arm side press ( your bending away and down as the bar is pressed up) with an Olympic bar allows a lot of weight to be used. And in a way (for me anyway) easier to handle that a DB.
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Both. I can understand a small straight bar with Olympic collars and 45's on each side. But a full length Olympic bar with 45lbs on each side? I honestly never seen ANYONE ever do that. And yes that does seem like a helluva lot of weight for simple skull crushers. I've never seen a probodybuilder do it. Although I've never seen a pro do squats on a ball either so just because they don't do it doesn't mean no one does or can't.
What do you consider a proper skull crusher? I mean you can lower it behind your head and press out or lower to your nose and do a half-press kind of thing. That's going to change the poundage used.
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Nothing wrong it, especially with JM presses.
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Both. I can understand a small straight bar with Olympic collars and 45's on each side. But a full length Olympic bar with 45lbs on each side? I honestly never seen ANYONE ever do that. And yes that does seem like a helluva lot of weight for simple skull crushers. I've never seen a probodybuilder do it. Although I've never seen a pro do squats on a ball either so just because they don't do it doesn't mean no one does or can't.
If you have strong arms and can handle some wrist discomfort it's not a big deal.
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Actually that's only 135 and SK'ers are partial reps only. Seen a few 300+ in that tricep exercise. Most guy's prefer an EZ bar.
Seen one arm BB curls with an Olympic bar. Hit's a lot of supporting muscles around and under the biceps. As well as the forearms. Different slant on bicep work. Of course the one arm side press ( your bending away and down as the bar is pressed up) with an Olympic bar allows a lot of weight to be used. And in a way (for me anyway) easier to handle that a DB.
You've seen guys do skull crushers with 300lbs? :o
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If you have strong arms and can handle some wrist discomfort it's not a big deal.
So what is a big deal to you then? Just curious. LOL. Like I said I've NEVER seen anyone do a skull crusher with a full size Olympic bar with plates on the side. I'm sure it can be done. Why don't more guys do it? Why don't bodybuilders do it?
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You've seen guys do skull crushers with 300lbs? :o
I've skull crushed as much 265lbs for a few reps.....I routinely use 250lbs on an ez-bar. I know I could force more weight, but what's the point? I'm already using too much.
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So what is a big deal to you then? Just curious. LOL. Like I said I've NEVER seen anyone do a skull crusher with a full size Olympic bar with plates on the side. I'm sure it can be done. Why don't more guys do it? Why don't bodybuilders do it?
Straight bars will tear up your wrists.
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Are we talking skull crushers, close grip bench presses or lying tricep extensions? Lying tricep extensions are skull crushers. Close grip bench presses are not the same exercise.
His form sucks but this is a skull crusher.
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These ARE NOT skull crushers these are more french presses or close grip bench presses.
HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I hardly doubt you skull crushed aka lying tricep extended over 200lbs. LMAO!
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Are we talking skull crushers, close grip bench presses or lying tricep extensions? Lying tricep extensions are skull crushers. Close grip bench presses are not the same exercise.
His form sucks but this is a skull crusher.
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These ARE NOT skull crushers these are more french presses or close grip bench presses.
HUGE DIFFERENCE.
I hardly doubt you skull crushed aka lying tricep extended over 200lbs. LMAO!
If you're talkin to me we're talkin about lying extensions/skull crushers.
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man of steel is huge. i believe he could handle it. I could do 45s on each side with an olympic bar. im sure my brother can handle a lot more than that with ease.
Dude so you're saying it's possible to do a lying tricep extension with 265lbs? Like I said I'm not talking about close grip bench presses. I'm talking STRICT form skull crushers AKA lying tricep extensions.
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This is how you do a proper skull crusher. And my mistake I guess french presses are also considered skull crushers. Close grip bench pressing with shitty form is not the same exercise as a skull crusher. Hence no way in hell ANYONE is doing 265lbs in the lying tricep extension. I guess it comes down to semantics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BestFrenchPress.jpg
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If you're talkin to me we're talkin about lying extensions/skull crushers.
You can do 265lbs in lying tricep extensions?
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Dude so you're saying it's possible to do a lying tricep extension with 265lbs? Like I said I'm not talking about close grip bench presses. I'm talking STRICT form skull crushers AKA lying tricep extensions.
Based on your comments, right now it seems impossible for you, but for me it's not.....been lifting everything heavy on arms for years. Triceps I use excellent form...slightly better than biceps in fact. I've stress fractured my right wrist due to extreme weight in arm training.
For close grips add a 100lbs.
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i see it in my gym regularly though its from teh same 3-4 guys
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You can do 265lbs in lying tricep extensions?
Yes
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So how much is this guy doing?
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we are all talking about skull crushers and not close grip bench presses. trust me, i think most of us on here know the difference.
135 is not that much weight for skull crushers. 265 is, but manofsteel is huge, so i dont doubt it. whether he uses strict form or not is irregardless. if he could do 265 with sloppy form and 225 with strict form, either way, it is a lot of weight and very impressive..
So how much can you do?
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thread backfire.
I assume this is another "hate mesomorph78" thread
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thread backfire.
I assume this is another "hate mesomorph78" thread
gh15 approved
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i used to use 135. i havent been doing a routine that i use that exercise in quite a while. im doing a 3 day per week full body routine and i use dips for my tricep exercise.
when i used to do an arm day, i would use 265 for 6-8 reps on close grip bench press though...
BTW, when i did skull crushers i usually did them slightly different from most. i would tilt my elbows at a 45 degree angle behind my head and lean my head off the bench slightly. this way, at the top of the movement, your not just supporting the weight with your joints, but are still having to flex to keep it there.
So how much can you bench?
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So how much can you bench?
I can bench 10,000lbs for 6 reps....
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I can bench 10,000lbs for 6 reps....
Hey it's an honest question. If 135 is so easy when it comes to skull crushers and SH can do 265 with poor form or close grip bench presses or whatever I'm assuming his bench is close to 400lbs.
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That would be aboiut correct as i can rep CG 264lbs very easily and I bench 374
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Hey it's an honest question. If 135 is so easy when it comes to skull crushers and SH can do 265 with poor form or close grip bench presses or whatever I'm assuming his bench is close to 400lbs.
This is getbig: everyone benches AT LEAST 400...
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Yes
So then you should easily be able to bench over 500lbs. What do you bench?
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So then you should easily be able to bench over 500lbs. What do you bench?
I've put up 485lbs on a bench for 3 reps....that's my best. For single I'd GUESS 500. At my best my arm strength outshined everthing else....except for calves and some rowing movements.
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I've put up 485lbs on a bench for 3 reps....that's my best. For single I'd GUESS 500. At my best my arm strength outshined everthing else....except for calves and some rowing movements.
Are you natural?
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I've put up 485lbs on a bench for 3 reps....that's my best. For single I'd GUESS 500. At my best my arm strength outshined everthing else....except for calves and some rowing movements.
Your ability to skull crush 265lbs seems way out of proportion for you ability to bench.
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Your ability to skull crush 265lbs seems way out of proportion for you ability to bench.
Wouldn't your elbow joints get wrecked by that weight regardless of strength? ???
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When i was close gripping 265, i was using 285 for 6-8 reps on bench press. My triceps and shoulders seem to do most of the work on my bench, and i think thats part of why my chest seems to be a lagging body part for me.
my brother benches in the 400's though if that helps.
I have plateaued at 10,000....any way to work past it? ???
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Your ability to skull crush 265lbs seems way out of proportion for you ability to bench.
You're training with Doggcrapp right?
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You're training with Doggcrapp right?
no
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135 isnt very impressive imo, well above average but not impressive...this dude i used to work was a track athlete for a college here in Tx and he did some weird exercise where he would lower the weight like a skull crusher and then move the weight to his chest and press it like a close grip and did this with 315 for like 10 or so reps when i first saw him do it i was like he is gonna bust his face open with that much weight but he didnt even use a spotter...crazy genetics on this dude ehhh maybe some extra help too iono
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135 isnt very impressive imo, well above average but not impressive...this dude i used to work was a track athlete for a college here in Tx and he did some weird exercise where he would lower the weight like a skull crusher and then move the weight to his chest and press it like a close grip and did this with 315 for like 10 or so reps when i first saw him do it i was like he is gonna bust his face open with that much weight but he didnt even use a spotter...crazy genetics on this dude ehhh maybe some extra help too iono
YUP YUP
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Actually that's only 135 and SK'ers are partial reps only. Seen a few 300+ in that tricep exercise. Most guy's prefer an EZ bar.
Seen one arm BB curls with an Olympic bar. Hit's a lot of supporting muscles around and under the biceps. As well as the forearms. Different slant on bicep work. Of course the one arm side press ( your bending away and down as the bar is pressed up) with an Olympic bar allows a lot of weight to be used. And in a way (for me anyway) easier to handle that a DB.
::)
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thread backfire.
I assume this is another "hate mesomorph78" thread
;D
these guys are hilarious
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for the record evan centapani does them
and he has great tris..
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Huh? I didn't say anything to you.
You sound like you're so worked up over how you've NEVER seen anyone do the skull crushers with the Olympic bar.
OK. We get it. You've never seen it before. Let it go!
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You sound like you're so worked up over how you've NEVER seen anyone do the skull crushers with the Olympic bar.
OK. We get it. You've never seen it before. Let it go!
If you don't like my threads don't fucking post in them. There are COUNTLESS useless fucking threads on Getbig. Go find another one to piss in or better yet go jack off to pictures of Arnold.
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This is 200lbs and way harder than scull crushers
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This is 200lbs and way harder than scull crushers
That's actually pretty impressive but to say that movement is harder than skull crushers is bullshit. No way. There is a shit ton of delt and shoulder work in that movement. The entire point of skull crushers AKA lying triceps extension is to completely isolate the tricep muscle. Hence when people claim they can tricep extend close to 300lbs I call bullshit. If that guy tried to lay on a bench and try to do a skull crusher with that same exact weight he would fail miserably. I posted the CORRECT way to do a skull crusher in the wikipedia picture. Elbows down perpendicular to your body and forearms parallel with the body. When you flare your elbows like most guys do you take emphasis off the triceps.
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If you don't like my threads don't fucking post in them. There are COUNTLESS useless fucking threads on Getbig. Go find another one to piss in or better yet go jack off to pictures of Arnold.
Worked up over skull crushers. Worked up over a post. You've got issues all around.
(http://encefalus.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/atomic_bomb_explosion.jpg)
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Are you natural?
Yes
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Your ability to skull crush 265lbs seems way out of proportion for you ability to bench.
Hence my statement that my arm strength outshined almost everything else.
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I prefer to do skull crushers on the bench press with a full length straight bar...easier to get the weight into position, and it does not bother my wrists.
Skull crushing 135 is not hard or abnormal.
The most i've done is 205 for about three with full straight bar...that was getting hard and puts a lot a pressure on the elbows. Gotta be careful with that kind of weight...really easy to get tendentious if it is done too often...I tend to only do heavy skull crushers ever other week to avoid this
BTW...I heard jeremy hornstra (spelling?) could do skull crushers with 315...think there is a video out there. That is crazy strong...
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you ought to diet down sometime man of steel. you would probably have a great build for bbing. I know your probably happy at your current size, but its fun to change it up once in a while. plus all of us here at getbig would probably enjoy seeing the transformation.
My bbing lifestyle is behind me, but I would like to get in great shape again for sure....granted I'd adopt aspects of a bb lifestyle again to accomplish that. I've been lean, huge, fat, fat huge, etc...now I just wanna be strong and healthy.
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Ok. I was think a regular sized Olympic bar. You mean a straight bar with Olympic collars?
Regular.
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pellechia did skullcrushers with 405
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pellechia did skullcrushers with 405
His form is also half-ass. ::)