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Say hi to Big Poppa fellas!!!
This fella above is the newest member of my family... I have adopted him when he was 4 mounths old.
He is 1.6 years old now and he is the best thing ever happened to me in life, I had two dogs, and none of them was so cute, so gentle, so loving, so excited and happy as he is. He's my bro and we're together 24/7
How not to love such a thing? And I can't believe how racist and hypocrite people are with this breed. I had a Chow Chow and he was very aggressive.... Poppa don't even care if you pull his ass ;D ;D
I mean, they're the only ones who love you above them.
I started this topic at the pets area but it is desert out there ??? ???
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24/7? Is a job out of the question?
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location ???
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Say hi to Big Poppa fellas!!!
This fella above is the newest member of my family... I have adopted him when he was 4 mounths old.
He is 1.6 years old now and he is the best thing ever happened to me in life, I had two dogs, and none of them was so cute, so gentle, so loving, so excited and happy as he is. He's my bro and we're together 24/7
How not to love such a thing? And I can't believe how racist and hypocrite people are with this breed. I had a Chow Chow and he was very aggressive.... Poppa don't even care if you pull his ass ;D ;D
I mean, they're the only ones who love you above them.
I started this topic at the pets area but it is desert out there ??? ???
Couldn't agree more... amazing breed.
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nice dog..
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Couldn't agree more... amazing breed.
I have 2, I work with the rescue group badrap.org
They are the best dog on the planet, unfortunately they are also most abused, and too often owned by minorities.
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never got on the pitbull bandwagon, I like every kind of dog but I really don't see why people love pitbulls so much
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never got on the pitbull bandwagon, I like every kind of dog but I really don't see why people love pitbulls so much
you've obviously never spent much time around one. Every person I've ever known to spend time with one eventually falls in love with them.
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i like their physical abilities especially when they are under a good owner/trainer but i always hear they are stubborn and not as smart as many other breeds!!..
do you guys who have pit bulls find them intelligent comparing to breeds like GS or rots or dobs??..
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you've obviously never spent much time around one. Every person I've ever known to spend time with one eventually falls in love with them.
Until they bite your head off.
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like the apbt but im more fond of the amstaff. both are pretty animals
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Until they bite your head off.
A poodle is more apt to bite humans than APBT's.
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A poodle can barely do aNy damage apbt will rip your arm off. Dont ck nm pare.a tiger to a mouse. Beautiful dog btw
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A poodle can barely do aNy damage apbt will rip your arm off. Dont ck nm pare.a tiger to a mouse. Beautiful dog btw
read what he said...
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read what he said...
Exactly.
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ha! he looks so happy in that first pic! great dog dude!
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Until they bite your head off.
Don't make me slap the midget out of you.
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Awesome dog bro!
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That is a great looking dog you got there man... :)
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A poodle is more apt to bite humans than APBT's.
It's true, go ask an akc or ukc judge if they're more comfortable handling pits or poodles. My mother in laws neighbor had her guts ripped open by a collie. Dogs with teeth can do damage. Blacks and Latinos have ruined the pr of pits.
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we need a good dog-fight here 8)
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never got on the pitbull bandwagon, I like every kind of dog but I really don't see why people love pitbulls so much
I've had a lot of dogs... 2 Bulldogs, 1 Chow Chow, 1 Golden and 1 German Shepherd.(3 of them on my beach house)
Seriously, I love (and loved) them all but none of them had this magic feeling that poppa's have. I just can't explain everybody at first stay a little afraid of him, but after 5 minutos in the same room,,,, everyone fall's in love with him.
Most of the cases of aggression are because of human abuse and 99% aren't pure APBT, you know, serious breeders care a lot with genetics and lineage (genetica and lineage are connected directly to dog behavior)...
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What cracks me up is that so many members here can see right through the media madness surrounding steroids, but can't apply the same logic to the media madness surrounding pits.
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Though I have never had a PitBull, I think they are the most impressive dogs ever. All the horror stories you hear about Pits are mainly media driven and bad ownership....
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What cracks me up is that so many members here can see right through the media madness surrounding steroids, but can't apply the same logic to the media madness surrounding pits.
This !
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just like bodybuilding
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just like bodybuilding
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one out of a thousand dogs is properly trained. loling at everyone thinking theirs is. "yea my dog is trained..." sit, sit, sit,sitSIT SIT dammit SIT good boy. "he s so good and obedient wouldnt hurt a fly" ::)
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they seem intellectually challenged though, like downs syndrome dogs
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they seem intellectually challenged though, like downs syndrome dogs
You see the pitbull that does Parkour?
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My PB is as gentle as a lamb.
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they seem intellectually challenged though, like downs syndrome dogs
If they are bred wrong. Most pitbulls I've been around are very smart. Very clownish and silly though. They will do just about anything to get a laugh.
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Yes.... they're very silly and Innocent... My dog is basically trained, he sit, Lie down, stop and walk along. But when he's very excited and happy(like when a friend of mine comes to my place) he does not listen to anything ;D ;D just want to caught all the toys to play with us.
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Mine's a fucking angel. As long as you dont fuck with him he acts like the biggest pussy. The dude surprises me every day with how smart he is, and hes never been in trouble for anything. Got him at 3 weeks old hes 5 now and has never gone to the bathroom inside, never chewed up or destroyed anything, has never stolen food off the table.
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Yes.... they're very silly and Innocent... My dog is basically trained, he sit, Lie down, stop and walk along. But when he's very excited and happy(like when a friend of mine comes to my place) he does not listen to anything ;D ;D just want to caught all the toys to play with us.
Ya that can be annoying when people come over they don't see all the time. They get so excited it's like christmas to a little kid.
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Ya that can be annoying when people come over they don't see all the time. They get so excited it's like christmas to a little kid.
My pit is a complete nut when he gets excited.......gotta` be careful his big head doesn`t whack out your front teeth or break your fucking nose! :D
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Good looking dog, I have a female pit she's going on 14 months old, great dog and gets along well with my Australian Shepard.
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My pit is a complete nut when he gets excited.......gotta` be careful his big head doesn`t whack out your front teeth or break your fucking nose! :D
Ya they will jump up so high they could break your nose. Or they spin around in circles and accidently knock you down if you don't know how to handle them. That's when they're the most dangerous and they don't mean to be.
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Ya they will jump up so high they could break your nose. Or they spin around in circles and accidently knock you down if you don't know how to handle them. That's when they're the most dangerous and they don't mean to be.
;D so true... once my GF was with bottle in hands to throw for him.... he was craaaazy for that bottle I tell you!! When she threw it he just ran over everything in front (including her),,, very funny.
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Mine`s a one dog wrecking crew........runs around catching his toys and knock stuff down,spins around in circles and takes out your legs....funny fucker...was born right in my living room.....had him right from jumpstreet,8 years old now and still acts like a puppy.
I love him almost as much as I love my wife but she`s better in bed! LOL :D
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Mine`s a one dog wrecking crew........runs around catching his toys and knock stuff down,spins around in circles and takes out your legs....funny fucker...was born right in my living room.....had him right from jumpstreet,8 years old now and still acts like a puppy.
I love him almost as much as I love my wife but she`s better in bed! LOL :D
I actually prefer to have my dog in bed, hes so damn warm lol. My dog has invisible fence and a dog door, so he goes in and out as he pleases. I can look out my window and hes in the back yard just going nuts with a stick he found on the ground. tossing it up in the air and jumping up for it, then runs at mock speed across the yard. Kinda makes his own fun.
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What cracks me up is that so many members here can see right through the media madness surrounding steroids, but can't apply the same logic to the media madness surrounding pits.
Ones are chemicals you use at your own risk, and ones are "pets" that you are subjected to whether you like it or not. Same thing right? ::)
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I actually prefer to have my dog in bed, hes so damn warm lol. My dog has invisible fence and a dog door, so he goes in and out as he pleases. I can look out my window and hes in the back yard just going nuts with a stick he found on the ground. tossing it up in the air and jumping up for it, then runs at mock speed across the yard. Kinda makes his own fun.
My dog sleeps between me and my wife......fucking cock blocking mutt! :D
I also have two other dogs..........like the kids I never had.
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Ones are chemicals you use at your own risk, and ones are "pets" that you are subjected to whether you like it or not. Same thing right? ::)
Tell that to someone spreading a story about some "...roid raging asshole who punched them at the bar." I see your point, but it is not a good one. Pets are just that; pets, and they require proper ownership. Proper ownership means that your dog is not exposed to anyone who would view it as "subjection." What you are alluding to is the socioeconomic and cultural divide that exists in pet ownership, involves all breeds, and is exploited by the fear driven media. I would know, I work in the media, and I have refused to go on air over a story where a "pitbull" attacked someone. the dog was 130 lbs, that's not a pitbull (ukc/akc breed standard says the largest are around 75lbs...which also brings up the definition of pit bulls...another long diatribe i don't want to begin), it is some other mix or breed. I was almost fired, actually.
If you want to become an informed individual, read "The Pit Bull Placebo: The Media, Myths, and Politics of dog aggression." it is available on amazon or your local library. If you don't want to become informed, that's your prerogative.
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Tell that to someone spreading a story about some "...roid raging asshole who punched them at the bar." I see your point, but it is not a good one. Pets are just that; pets, and they require proper ownership. Proper ownership means that your dog is not exposed to anyone who would view it as "subjection." What you are alluding to is the socioeconomic and cultural divide that exists in pet ownership, involves all breeds, and is exploited by the fear driven media. I would know, I work in the media, and I have refused to go on air over a story where a "pitbull" attacked someone. the dog was 130 lbs, that's not a pitbull (ukc/akc breed standard says the largest are around 75lbs...which also brings up the definition of pit bulls...another long diatribe i don't want to begin), it is some other mix or breed. I was almost fired, actually.
If you want to become an informed individual, read "The Pit Bull Placebo: The Media, Myths, and Politics of dog aggression." it is available on amazon or your local library. If you don't want to become informed, that's your prerogative.
I knew this point would come up. It is true that all medication, steroids and drugs can affect other people as well beside the user. But the freedom to use these chemicals is a greater benefit than the cost of the negative sides (also there is more survaillance but I'll come to that in a moment).
I'm not attacking pit bulls here per se. Just dogs that are big and/or are bred to kill. Society has put strict limits on what we can have as pets. Dogs are the only kind of pet where 200 pound animal with a killer instict is a-ok. I think there should be a limit. Throw all the aggressive breeds the fuck out a here and put a weight limit. 120 pounds sounds good.
Part of why I'm so against these kind of dogs is the culture. If a drunk man threatens me, I can call the cops and they take him away. But if a dog threatens me, there is probably nothing anyone can do about it. We can't carry a knife or other weapons with us to protect us. When it's dog vs man, somehow the man is an outlaw. Dog has all the rights, until it kills someone of course.
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I knew this point would come up. It is true that all medication, steroids and drugs can affect other people as well beside the user. But the freedom to use these chemicals is a greater benefit than the cost of the negative sides (also there is more survaillance but I'll come to that in a moment).
I'm not attacking pit bulls here per se. Just dogs that are big and/or are bred to kill. Society has put strict limits on what we can have as pets. Dogs are the only kind of pet where 200 pound animal with a killer instict is a-ok. I think there should be a limit. Throw all the aggressive breeds the fuck out a here and put a weight limit. 120 pounds sounds good.
Part of why I'm so against these kind of dogs is the culture. If a drunk man threatens me, I can call the cops and they take him away. But if a dog threatens me, there is probably nothing anyone can do about it. We can't carry a knife or other weapons with us to protect us. When it's dog vs man, somehow the man is an outlaw. Dog has all the rights, until it kills someone of course.
pits aren't bred to be aggressive towards humans (absolute, 100% fact, call your local AKC/UKC representative if you don't believe me),and are actually bred for human friendliness and loyalty above all else. If you gave labradors and beagles to blacks and latinos, the end result would be the same as we have with pit bulls currently (I do volunteer work with dogs in oakland california, 80% of black people will make a nice dog mean, and somehow get puppies to be mean. They're just stupid fucking people). This is the reason that "aggressive" dog bans in many countries and cities around the world have been overturned, the same trashy people got dogs, and regardless of breed, their dogs attacked people. The cities/counties/countries thought they were getting rid of the cause of the problem (perceived as the dogs) and the problem didn't go away because the real cause (people) was still able to own and abuse animals.
Before 1980 or so, pits were rarely, if ever, involved in dog attacks. Then came the glamorization of ghetto culture (thank you, black and brown people), and rappers started talking about feeding their pits gun powder (yup, i have actually seen this, thank you, biggie), how tough their dogs were, etc etc etc...its all stupid people have. No education, no intelligence, no money, but they gawt dem rims, and duh biggest, baddest dog, an' duh eeyyce on dey necks... and that takes us to today. Go look at old American propaganda art, the Pit was a source of American pride.
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Dog of Peace ::)
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Traps is right... American Pit's aren t supouse to be agressive or bad tempered. That's not a characteristic of the APBT... That's why anyone who understand a little bit about the breed does not recomend it for house protection.
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/end of thread. Dude doenst have the money to buy guns or a big car, so he has one of those abominations as a friend.
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/end of thread. Dude doenst have the money to buy guns or a big car, so he has one of those abominations as a friend.
Mr. Negativity strikes yet again. :(
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Mr. Negativity strikes yet again. :(
"awesome comment bro! "
get a life old fart. Oh wait, it's too late.
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"awesome comment bro! "
get a life old fart. Oh wait, it's too late.
You're so cool ::)
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Raps you are incorrect, Biggie talked about feeding his Rotts gun powder. Plus, I remember as a kid old ass rednecks talk about fighting dogs, and there were plenty of redneck dogfighting websites. And many of the "fighting" bloodlines were from the South-Midwest. Back in 2000 I used to work with this old dude from the Midwest, siad his sons bred Pits for yrs, going back to the 60s, yeah, like they didn't fight them.
And let's not forget Jack London's White Fang, which was beaten in a dog fight by what possibly was a APBT, and this was set pre-1900s (If I remember correctly), and Disney used a APBT for the movie.
Dogfightng and the dogs used for them have long been associated with the underclass and low class, from England, and the US. Let's not forget that.
Sure, rappers and ghetto people popularized the bad aspects. But, German Sheperds, Rotts, Dobermans, have all had their infamous time in the spot light...
It's just that the sensationalized "bad boy" image of pits goes hand and hand with today's bad boy image.
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"awesome comment bro! "
get a life old fart. Oh wait, it's too late.
You hurt my feelings again.
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FAG!
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Rottweilers are teh king. Everything is, is just everything else.
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People who own Pitbulls are people who prefer to live in a world of their own making, where the only reality is the lies the make up about Pitbulls. They are uneducated and insult other people as a way of appearing knowledgable about the breed. My whole existence is spent finding ways to eradicate the breed and make society safe once more. No Offence, but Pitbull advocates are complete FUCKING LOSERS WHO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OXYGEN THIEVES AND LIKE THEIR IDIOT DOGS - PIDIOTS SHOULD BE KILLED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Not trying to upset anyone, but the truth tends to upset those in denial. Pitbulls KILL Children, Men & Women = FACT
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What difference does it make? Guns don't kill people, people kill people but everyone is still against automatic weapons, tanks, bazookas and suitcase nukes on private citizens. You take the dangerous stuff away from the people because you know they are going to be wrongly used! I hope this is clear.
Funny by the way how I have never heard of chihuahua eating a baby. Them dogs aren't headcases at all. ::) So breed must matter just a tiny little bit here.
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one out of a thousand dogs is properly trained. loling at everyone thinking theirs is. "yea my dog is trained..." sit, sit, sit,sitSIT SIT dammit SIT good boy. "he s so good and obedient wouldnt hurt a fly" ::)
no you are wrong.. i trained my dog to catch bad ppl.. as you see in this video if we have 4 bad guy he can bring them to me one after the other as these 4 balls ;D :-X
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Uberman this little baby would melt that cold heart of yours.
You can see the little hamstrings on her legs haha. I love that dog.
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People who own Pitbulls are people who prefer to live in a world of their own making, where the only reality is the lies the make up about Pitbulls. They are uneducated and insult other people as a way of appearing knowledgable about the breed. My whole existence is spent finding ways to eradicate the breed and make society safe once more. No Offence, but Pitbull advocates are complete FUCKING LOSERS WHO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OXYGEN THIEVES AND LIKE THEIR IDIOT DOGS - PIDIOTS SHOULD BE KILLED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Not trying to upset anyone, but the truth tends to upset those in denial. Pitbulls KILL Children, Men & Women = FACT
Wow. That may have been one of the most idiotic, ignorant, and moronic things i've ever read. ::)
A few FACTS...
The APBT is an extremely human friendly breed. Aggression towards people, even strangers, is not a characteristic of this breed. Any person who knows dogs will even tell you that Pits do not make good watch dogs because of this.
They are great with children. So much so that they were given the nickname "The Nanny Breed."
One of the best temperaments of any breed. The American Temperament Testing Society reported that the APBT scored amongst the highest of any of the over 200 breeds tested by them. They passed at a rate of 95% while the ave passing rate for all over breeds was about 77%.
Most media stories talking about pitbull attacks, are not by the APBT or AmStaff. "Pitbull" is not actually a breed, it is a generic term used to describe any mix of the many breeds that have "pitbull like" physical characteristics.
I could keep going but my point has been made...
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Ill take a German Shepherd over a pitbull any day
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People who own Pitbulls are people who prefer to live in a world of their own making, where the only reality is the lies the make up about Pitbulls. They are uneducated and insult other people as a way of appearing knowledgable about the breed. My whole existence is spent finding ways to eradicate the breed and make society safe once more. No Offence, but Pitbull advocates are complete FUCKING LOSERS WHO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OXYGEN THIEVES AND LIKE THEIR IDIOT DOGS - PIDIOTS SHOULD BE KILLED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Not trying to upset anyone, but the truth tends to upset those in denial. Pitbulls KILL Children, Men & Women = FACT
Look we all know you had a terrible experience due to Pits, but what if those were Presa Canarios or Cane Corsos, chances are you might not be here to tell the tale.
What if it had been two bull terriers or English Staffies, chances are you'd have the same feelings. Pitbulls kill, German Shepherds kill, Rotts kill, Dobermans kill, Collies kill, Cocker Spaniels kill and are crazy neurotic dogs.
And didn't your countryman Steve Irwin have a Pit as well?
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Pit's get a bad rap because every shit-bird wannabe tough guy seems to own one.
I get tired of seeing all these gangsters with pits. I wouldn't want to be associated with that element.
I'll take a Border Collie or a Boxer over a Pit anytime even though we owned a pretty good Pit in the days of wayback.
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Funny by the way how I have never heard of chihuahua eating a baby. Them dogs aren't headcases at all. ::) So breed must matter just a tiny little bit here.
Yes, the problem is a little to do with the breed - It's an easy target for idiots like you to stereotype because whenever they do attack, simpletons such as yourself figure it's because of the breed. This is all because the damage is a lot worse than say a chihuahua so your narrow minds get tunnel vision and attack the first target that appears in your mind. Common breads attack people way more often, and a lot of the times it's just as devastating.
It's just like if a juicer hits another douche at a club. The club's full of douches getting in fights, but as soon as Chirpy McLatts hits someone there are news stories romanticizing roid rage for months on end. Pitbulls get the same rap despite the fact that when they were first being bred, any that showed traits of HUMAN aggression were immediately culled to kill those traits. It's ironic that a dog bred NOT to attack humans gets so vilified by the very people that brought it into existance.
I love my little pitbull, Lucy. She's just a few months old and growing like a weed. Totally adorable. My brother just got an APBT/boxer cross who's 6 months old so now they'll be able to play together.
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People who own Pitbulls are people who prefer to live in a world of their own making, where the only reality is the lies the make up about Pitbulls. They are uneducated and insult other people as a way of appearing knowledgable about the breed. My whole existence is spent finding ways to eradicate the breed and make society safe once more. No Offence, but Pitbull advocates are complete FUCKING LOSERS WHO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OXYGEN THIEVES AND LIKE THEIR IDIOT DOGS - PIDIOTS SHOULD BE KILLED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Not trying to upset anyone, but the truth tends to upset those in denial. Pitbulls KILL Children, Men & Women = FACT
Shut the fuck up. That's like saying guns kill people, ban all guns! But forget who is pulling the trigger. The owners of pit bulls are the ones to blame for their aggressiveness. You can take any dog, lock it up and beat the shit out of it and make it attack people, that's a FACT.
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E-Kul is a pussy that got attacked by a dog so now he fears them and abhors them because of his experience.
The sand's not coming out of his vagina any time soon so it's no use trying to convince him otherwise.
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Shut the fuck up. That's like saying guns kill people, ban all guns! But forget who is pulling the trigger. The owners of pit bulls are the ones to blame for their aggressiveness. You can take any dog, lock it up and beat the shit out of it and make it attack people, that's a FACT.
The owner of the dogs who attacked E-Kul apparently sic the dogs on him...they could have been standard poddles and done about same or worse damage. Imagine had they been mastiffs.
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Couldn't resist but to upload a few pics of mine (and her older brothers).
Her and Ronnie (chihuahua love to battle it out all day long but nothing overly aggressive). And she really, really loves Buddy our old black lab/sheppard. He's turning 13 years old and while she annoys the shit out of him, he always cuddles up to her and keeps her warm at night. I think she thinks he's her momma. It's too cute.
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People who own Pitbulls are people who prefer to live in a world of their own making, where the only reality is the lies the make up about Pitbulls. They are uneducated and insult other people as a way of appearing knowledgable about the breed. My whole existence is spent finding ways to eradicate the breed and make society safe once more. No Offence, but Pitbull advocates are complete FUCKING LOSERS WHO SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OXYGEN THIEVES AND LIKE THEIR IDIOT DOGS - PIDIOTS SHOULD BE KILLED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM. Not trying to upset anyone, but the truth tends to upset those in denial. Pitbulls KILL Children, Men & Women = FACT
Wow. That may have been one of the most idiotic, ignorant, and moronic things i've ever read. ::)
A few bits of Propoganda from the self confessed Pidiot...
The APBT is an extremely human friendly breed. Aggression towards people, even strangers, is not a characteristic of this breed. Any person who knows dogs will even tell you that Pits do not make good watch dogs because of this.
They are great with children. So much so that they were given the nickname "The Nanny Breed."
One of the best temperaments of any breed. The American Temperament Testing Society reported that the APBT scored amongst the highest of any of the over 200 breeds tested by them. They passed at a rate of 95% while the ave passing rate for all over breeds was about 77%.
Most media stories talking about pitbull attacks, are not by the APBT or AmStaff. "Pitbull" is not actually a breed, it is a generic term used to describe any mix of the many breeds that have "pitbull like" physical characteristics.
I could keep going but my point has been made...
Myth : Human-aggressive pit bulls were "culled"
Historically, it is believed that dogfighters removed human-aggressive pit bulls from the gene pool. "Man biters," as dogmen referred them, were "culled" to prevent dog handlers from suffering vicious bites. However, dogmen themselves and pedigrees show a different story. As far back as 1909, George Armitage shares a story in, "Thirty Years with Fighting Dogs." He describes Caire's Rowdy as not a mere man-biter, but as a "man-eater," the most dangerous biter of all.6
In more modern years, a substantial number of champion (CH), grand champion (GR CH) and register of merit (ROM) fighting dogs carry the title of a man-biter or a man-eater. These pit bulls were championship-breeding stock, whose famed owners never for a moment considered culling the dogs. Some of the most well known dogs include: Adams' GR CH Zebo, Indian Bolio ROM, Garner's CH Chinaman ROM, Gambler's GR CH Virgil and West's CH Spade (man-eater).7
In 1974, after a series of high profile news articles written by Wayne King and published by the New York Times, the image of the ferocious fighting pit bull moved from the shadowy world of dogmen into the mainstream. This period, between 1975 and 1979, is known as the "leakage period" when the breeding of pit bulls drastically increased through gang members and drug dealers, who wanted the "toughest dog" on the block, as well as by pet pit bull breeders.8
While some dogmen of the past may have culled human-aggressive dogs to keep their stock free of man-biters, once the leakage period began, there is no evidence that similar selective pressures were maintained.9 As early as 1980, pit bull attacks begin headlining newspapers, "Another Pit Bull Attack Reported; Boy, 8 Slashed," as well as reports about pit bull owners trying to bolster the breed's "deteriorating" public image, "Pit Bull Attacks As Owners Fight Image."
Myth Pit bulls are not unpredictable
Despite pro-pit bull claims that pit bulls are not unpredictable, the breed frequently attacks without provocation or warning. It is well documented by humane groups that to excel in dogfighting, pit bulls were selectively bred to conceal warning signals prior to an attack. For instance, a pit bull may not growl, bare its teeth or offer a direct stare before it strikes. Unlike all other dog breeds, pit bulls are also disrespectful of traditional signs of submission and appeasement.16
According to expert Randall Lockwood, pit bulls are also liars. In a 2004 law enforcement training video, taped when Lockwood was vice president for research and educational outreach for the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), he shares the following story:
"Fighting dogs lie all the time. I experienced it first hand when I was investigating three pit bulls that killed a little boy in Georgia. When I went up to do an initial evaluation of the dog's behavior, the dog came up to the front of the fence, gave me a nice little tail wag and a "play bow" -- a little solicitation, a little greeting. As I got closer, he lunged for my face."17
If a pit bull can fool an expert such as Lockwood, how can the average citizen anticipate a pit bull's future action? In a separate example, animal behavioral expert Peter Borchelt was sued after the pit bull he was training for a client "suddenly" attacked an ex-fireman. After encountering Gabriel Febbraio on the street and assuring him that the pit bull was friendly, the dog broke free from Borchelt and attacked Febbraio in the groin. The jury awarded Febbraio $1 million dollars.18
The Nanny Dog Myth Revealed
From 2004 to 2010 59 US children were killed by the family's, babysitter's, neighbor's or friend's pit bull.
The pit bull apologia would have you believe that their fighting bred dogs are just like any other dog in many ways, but so superior in their unparalleled love and devotion for children they were commonly known as "The Nanny Dog" throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries. If pit bulls are held in low esteem today, it is only due to ignorance and the gullible acceptance of biased news reporting because, once upon a time, pit bulls were the most beloved dog in England and the United States.
A google search brings up 77,100 results for the term "nanny dog." While some sites bestow the Nanny Dog mantle on the American Pit Bull Terrier or the American Staffordshire Terrier and some lead you to productions of Peter Pan, most of the results lead you to 21st century blogs and news articles about the Staffordshire Bull Terrier.
120 sites dedicated to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier include this phrase in support of the fighting nanny dog mythology,
"These dogs were renowned for their courage and tenacity and despite their ferocity in the pit were excellent companions and good with children. In fact it was not unknown for an injured dog to be transported home in a pram with the baby!"
Frankly, even if this anecdote were plausible, let alone true, this doesn't support a nanny dog claim so much as it supports a sociopathic, baby abusing, dog abusing, parent claim.
Dig as hard as you want, the pram story is all you'll find to support the Nanny Dog myth in any of these sites. You won't find a single citation, quote or reference of any kind to a 19th century, or early 20th century text. Since the Staffordshire Bull Terrier enthusiasts didn't see fit to support their claims, I decided I would have to find the origin of the Nanny Dog myself.
Meet the Nanny Dog - the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, England's ultimate fighting dog and, inexplicably, the supposed dog of choice to care for England's children in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
It is not hard to find old references to the Bull Terrier. The various histories and descriptions of the breed largely agree with each other. After bull baiting was banned in England, Coalminers in various cities including Staffordshire were at a loss for blood sporting alternatives for their beloved, courageous bulldogs. So, they developed another blood sport - pit dog fighting. Sadly, they soon found their bulldogs were not suited to win in the pit.
According to a 1908 New York Times article,
"The old lovers of the bulldog found to their dismay that sometimes a terrier, with only quickness and a pair of punishing jaws to recommend him, would kill a bulldog while the latter was merely hanging on. The bulldog would be brave to the death of course, and would withstand pain that the terrier would never endure, but that was poor consolation when the terrier had killed the dog.
The dog fighters were, however, as persevering a set of men as were the bull baiters, and they set to work to remodel their favorites for their new occupation. They began to cross their bulldogs with the white English terrier, a breed now practically extinct, but the same in every respect, save color, as the modern Manchester or black-and-tan. The progeny was named the bull terrier, the greatest fighting machine, pound for pound, on four legs. The bull terrier had the courage of the bulldog and the jaws and quickness of the white terrier. Moreover, he has the terrier's way of fighting. He does not simply take a hold and stay there. He takes a hold and begins to eat his way through and tear and worry. If his first hold doesn't suit, he takes another. If he gets his adversary by the throat, he will tear out the throat in a minute or so and end the battle."
"There is perhaps no more beautiful illustration of the results of artificial selection than is provided in the history of the bulldog. It is a wonderful example of patient and skillful breeding for an object that is not wholly ignoble.
We can agree to disagree on that last point.
It is a bit confounding that the New York Times author neglected to mention the Staffordshire dog fighter's even more stupendous genetic achievement, that of creating an unstoppable "fighting machine" that can also be used to nanny their children.
Nineteenth century dog breed books, such as The Illustrated Natural History (Mammalia), by Rev. JG Wood (1853), and The Dogs of the British Islands, by J.H. Walsh (1878) very precisely describe the deadly nature of the Bull Terrier, including an account of a Bull Terrier's attack on a rhinoceros by a dog "called Venus in derision of her ugliness."(Wood, p. 311) Walsh suggests that, "unlike the bulldog, he (the Bull Terrier) is an excellent companion for the male sex, being a little too violent in his quarrels to make him desirable as a ladies' pet (p. 221)." Nanny Dog? Not so much.
In 1894, Rawdon B. Lee wrote A History and Description of the Modern Dogs of Great Britain and Ireland in which he explains that in the middle of the 19th century, fanciers began to breed bull terriers as "a gentleman's companion" and began showing them. It was about this time that the Staffordshire Bull Terrier began to be recognized as distinct from the Bull Terrier. The Kennel Club in England recognized the Bull Terrier in the last quarter of the 19th century, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier became the pit fighting dog of choice. The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was denied Kennel Club recognition until 1935 because of its reputation as a pit fighting dog.
Lee illustrates the Bull Terrier's unsavory past by revealing that Bulls-eye, one of the meanest dogs in literary history and Bill Sykes' sidekick and alter ego from Oliver Twist (1838) was a Bull Terrier. Dickens describes Bull's-Eye as having a face "scratched and torn in twenty different places..." and..."who by a certain malicious licking of his lips seemed to be meditating an attack up on the legs of the first gentleman or lady he might encounter in the streets when he went out." Charles Dickens also seemed unaware of the Bull Terrier's special powers as a nanny, but was aware of the pit bull's capacity for human aggression.
Charles Dickens' Bill Sikes and Bull's-Eye
Lee (p. 23) contends, "our modern Bull Terrier is a very different creature from what he was half a century ago." According to Lee, they had been perhaps the most popular dog in England, until they were recently supplanted by the Fox Terrier. They were kept for pets and companions, they gained recognition in dog shows, and became fashionable to own among the undergraduates at Oxford and Cambridge. If any pit fighting dog might have been called England's Nanny Dog, surely it would have been the white Bull Terrier. And yet there is no mention of it.
Mr. Lee is perhaps the first recorded pit nutter. He penned what might be the first known iteration of, "It's how you raise them" (p.22, p. 26) which is hilariously followed by the woeful tale of the demise of Mr. Lee's own beloved Bull Terrier, Sam. Sam was incredibly talented and an incomparable companion who, owing to fighting blood on his sire's side, became increasingly aggressive. After killing at least two dogs, Sam was dumped at a warehouse to be a guard dog where he died of a broken heart. 30 years later, Mr. Lee still laments the incredible and bloodthirsty Sam. But, I thought it was how you raise them...
As for 19th century mentions of the "Staffordshire Bull Terrier" that can be found online, there is one. It is a want ad for a fighting dog:
Pleshey Chelmsford Wanted a Staffordshire bull terrier dog must have an exceedingly long nose and thoroughly game to face anything and win A tried dog preferred PS For special purpose weight 34 lb 944 (1871 Exchange and Mart and Journal of the Household (p. 614))
Archive searches of British, American and Canadian newspapers going as far back as the 18th century turn up not one single mention of "Nanny Dog" with regards to ANY breed until 1904 when the first stage production of Peter Pan opened featuring a nursemaid dog named Nana. Though J.M. Barrie patterned Nana after his Landseer Newfoundland, Nana has been portrayed by a St. Bernard, and an Old English Sheep Dog in subsequent stage and screen productions. No mention of Nana ever being a Staffie Bull. Not even in Never Never Land.
So, where is the oldest known reference to the Staffie Bull as a nanny dog? In a New York Times article. In 1971, Walter R. Fletcher wrote an article entitled, "A Breed That Came Up the Hard Way" in which he interviewed William R. Daniels and Mrs. Lilian Rant, President and magazine editor for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of America on the eve of the Staffie Bull's being granted permission to be shown in the American Kennel Club's miscellaneous class. It's the first step to AKC recognition and the club wanted to polish their dog's image.
Daniels brings up Dickens' villainous Bull's-Eye again and Mrs. Rant acknowledges that the Stafford "had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog.'"
Well, there it is. Mrs. Rant, lover and promoter of the Stafford, is clearly speaking in the present tense about the dog of today (1971) currently being referred to as a 'nursemaid dog' in the United States. She is using a variation of the argument that Mr. Lee used 77 years before about the Bull Terrier, suggesting that the Staffordshire Bull Terrier's unsavory reputation as a fighting dog has been left in the far distant past. She harkens back to Dickens again, before the Staffordshire Bull Terrier even existed as a distinct breed. Her contention that Staffordshire Bull Terriers are OFTEN referred to as nursmaid dogs is a little bit of a stretch, too. In 1971, there were 99 registered Staffordshire Bull Terriers in the United States. As editor of the club's magazine, she must have been at the center of all conversation about the breed. It is likely that she either coined the nickname or promulgated it through the magazine, and the term may have gained popularity among those few Stafford enthusiasts who subscribed to her magazine.
A timeline search does not turn up a mention of the "nanny dog" until 1987 in an archived Toronto Star article entitled, Move to Outlaw Pit Bulls Under Study in Several Cities.
"Breeder Kathy Thomas, president of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Association said, 'We're aware of the fighting - there's a lot of it in the Hamilton area. We only sell to family homes.'"
"Thomas, mother of two young children, said her eight Staffordshires are 'wonderful with children. In England, our Staffies were called the nanny-dog because they were gentle with kids.'"
Here's where the lie begins to get twisted into its most bizarre and current form and the Nanny Dog myth jumps on the crazy train. The Nanny Dog argument is no longer valid in the way that Mrs. Rant used it in 1971 when the general public was not aware of contemporary dog fighting. By the 1980s, dog fighting had become a generally recognized problem and initiatives to ban pit bulls were beginning. Kathy Thomas acknowledges that there is dog fighting going on all around her in 1987 near Toronto. She can no longer say that the Staffie was once, long ago, in Dickensian England a fighting dog, but has been transformed by many years of selective breeding to be a gentle nanny dog. The dogs are fighting all around her. So, the lie becomes that Staffordshire Bull Terriers were ALWAYS known as nanny dogs. They snuggled with the babies by day, ripped out throats and gutted each other by night and, returning from the fight, snuggled once again with the baby in the pram, this time ripped to shreds and soaked in blood.
It took about 16 years for the story to mutate into the Nanny dog of England - historic fighter and lover of children. But, the myth did not really take off for another 4 years, when Mrs. Rant published her book in 1991, Staffordshire Bull Terriers: Owner's Companion. She uses the term "nursemaid dog" three times and significantly says, " He has a great affection for children, having earned the title 'nursemaid dog' many years ago." (p.117) In this instance, "many years ago" means about 20 years previous, when she first coined or adopted the term.
And how about the history of the term "America's Nanny Dog" referring to the American Pit Bull Terrier or the American Staffordshire Terrier? 5,570 results come up for that query. Again, you cannot find one single citation, source or reference to a text from the 1940s that confirms this assertion. A google timeline search for "America's Nanny Dog" shows the earliest online publication date is September 25, 2007 as an opinion piece in the online publication, Times-Standard entitled "America's Nanny Dog" by Tyla Hafstrom. It is a complete fabrication and an utter lie.
Go ahead and prove me wrong, not with a single primary source, but with a preponderance of evidence that demonstrates the incredible existence of the baby loving fighting dog that was so beloved and so popular in times gone by that it was commonly called the nanny dog.
This, by the way, doesn't count.
This is the truth of the Stafforshire Bull Terrier today. Note this one is in fighting trim and has a a heavily scarred muzzle. This ain't no nanny dog.
~We lie loudest when we lie to ourselves.
Eric Hoffer
I could keep going but my point has been made...
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Hold on wait there is more...
Myth: Pit bulls pass the American Temperament Test
In 1977, Alfons Ertel designed the American Temperament Test in hopes of creating a uniform temperament test for dogs. Of the 75 million dogs that populate the U.S. today,20 about 933 are tested per year (0.001% of all dogs). The temperament data published by the group is not based upon scientific random sampling of any dog breed. It seems it would be virtually impossible to develop such a reliable study, as the base population source group is unidentifiable.
Due to the temperament data being objectively statistically unreliable, it is also highly misleading. Pit bull advocates frequently use this misleading data to point to the breed's good temperament and to advocate against breed-specific laws ("Pit bulls pass the ATTS test more often than beagles!"). Yet anyone one who has a minimal understanding of critical statistical analysis should be able to see that the ATTS "breed statistics" temperament data21 is essentially valueless.
The 12-minute test stimulates a casual walk through a park with a range of encounters. The test focuses on stability, shyness, aggressiveness and a few other factors. According to the group, the overall pass rate (the combination of all breeds) is 81.6%.22 Unlike the AKC's Canine Good Citizen test, no part of the ATTS test is performed without the dog owner present. It also fails to evaluate the most basic scenario that leads to aggression: How a dog reacts when it sees another dog.
Myth : The media conspiracy against pit bulls
Pit bulls have the highest propensity and frequency of any dog breed to be involved in a severe mauling. Members of the media understand this and are quick to report such attacks. The reason why "Child Suffers Dog Bite" does not dominate dog attack news headlines is due to the lower degree of injury inflicted. In 2008, the death of 2-month old Zane Alen Earles, who was killed by the family's Labrador puppy, captured over 1,000 news headlines and countless blog postings.12
Recently, a writer from British Columbia commented on the "media conspiracy" claim voiced by pit bull advocacy groups. In a charming, yet biting piece titled, "Belligerent Bassets?" writer Andrew Holota, points out the ridiculous nature of this claim:
"Yessir, there are oodles of poodles popped by cops all the time, and the press does not report it.
And attacks by psychotic shih tzus? Covered up. Muzzled, so to speak.
Children savaged by Scottish terriers? Quashed. Hushed puppies, if you will. Oh yes, the conspiracy runs deep indeed."13
What is true is that there is an absence of media regarding the collective damage inflicted by the pit bull breed since the early 1980s. In a recent 7-year period, from 2005 to 2011, pit bulls killed 128 Americans, about one citizen every 20 days.14 By 2013, pit bulls are projected to maul 200 Americans to death since 1998, the year the CDC stopped tracking fatal dog attacks by dog breed, and over 250 people since 1980.15 Major news agencies are AWOL on these important issues.
Myth : Fatal attack statistics about pit bulls are false
Pro-pit bull groups argue that the 20-year fatal dog attack study (from 1979 to 1998) issued by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in September 2000 is inaccurate because the study relied "in part" on newspaper articles. Pit bull advocates say that pit bull fatalities are more extensively reported by the media, therefore the authors of the study (most holding PhD credentials) must have "miscounted" or "double counted" the number of pit bull fatalities.10
As stated in the CDC report, the authors collected data from media accounts as well as the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) registry of fatal attacks. Also, all five authors, Jeffrey Sacks, Leslie Sinclair, Julie Gilchrist, Gail Golab and Randall Lockwood, openly oppose breed-specific laws. This bias is clearly reflected in the CDC report as well.11 If discrepancies were made in the report, it seems more likely that fatal pit bull attacks were underreported not over reported.
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but wait theres more....
"Don't blame the dog" logic
Pit bull owners frequently blame the "environment" after a pit bull seriously injures a person. A participant in the Tufts study illustrates this clearly, "If you get some kid that has been beaten all his life, he's going to go out and be aggressive towards people."9 The intention is to assert that an aggressive pit bull must have been beaten or taught to attack by their owners instead of admitting to the genetic traits that define the breed (See: Why do people say that pit bulls "don't let go?)
Pit bull owners frequently direct blame onto victims after an attack too. While "blaming the victim" is a universal phenomenon, pit bull owners do so offensively. The instance involving Wendy Blevins, who DogsBite.org awarded 2008 Victims Advocate of the Year, is an excellent example. After Tina Agerson's pit bull casually walked up to Wendy and her daughter and latched onto the child's head, Wendy immediately straddled the attacking dog and pulled it off Charlotte.
As blood flew everywhere, Agerson stood by and watched. She later said that Wendy "blocked" her from getting her dog. In a subsequent blog post about the incident, a pit bull advocate left a comment asking why Wendy did not have insurance to cover her child's medical bills, which surpassed $110,000 in 30 days. First, Wendy was insured; second, the commenter blamed the victim for being unable to pay these bills after "someone else's dog" nearly killed her child.
In a separate incident, a victim with a history of seizures was blamed for the attack that led to her death. Kelli Chapman was sleeping in her bed when her two pet pit bulls killed her. It was quickly assumed that because she suffered from seizures, she must have had one and the pit bulls "naturally" reacted to it by killing her. Yet, we will never know if she suffered a seizure, and if she did, the order of events: Did a seizure cause the attack or did the attack cause a seizure?10
In nearly all instances of serious and fatal pit bull attacks, pit bull owners, and in some cases authorities, blame the attack on the environment or the actions of the victim. There is a refusal on their part to admit that a pit bull will attack unprovoked. Some of the most grievous examples include a child holding a stuffed animal and a child bumping into a pit bull. "Don't Blame the Dog" believers say such actions sufficiently explain why the pit bull severely injured or killed the child.
Disguise breed name
As identified in the Tufts study, pit bull owners frequently pass their dogs off as other breeds to diminish a perceived stigma. They also lie about their dog's breed to confuse the public about the pit bull breed and to evade breed-specific laws. For instance, a pit bull owner might mislabel his dog as a bulldog-mix, boxer-mix or lab-mix after a pit bull law goes into effect. Animal groups, however, are the guiltiest of creating confusion about the pit bull breed and this started in 1935.
In 1935, the American Kennel Club (AKC) agreed to register pit bull dogs, but only under the name Staffordshire terrier. This was done to distance the breed from its continued use in dogfighting. Thus, the pit bull and the Staffordshire terrier was one in the same, yet held two different names.2
In 1972, the AKC renamed the breed to the American Staffordshire terrier. Though the American Staffordshire terrier is by definition a pit bull, many owners claim they are different breeds and shelters adopt out pit bulls under the Staffordshire name to fool unsuspecting members of the public.3
In 1996, the San Francisco Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals renamed pit bulls to "St. Francis Terriers." The hope was to make the breed more adoptable. After much screening, about 60 pit bulls were placed. The program was suspended after several of the re-dubbed dogs killed cats.4
In 2004, while serving as the director of New York City Animal Care and Control, Ed Boks tried to rename pit bulls to "New Yorkies" also in hopes of making the breed more adoptable. Boks' idea failed, as did his tenure in New York City, which only lasted from 2003-2005.5
Meanwhile, dogfighters historically and presently refer to pit bulls as "bulldogs." The American bulldog, which is unrecognized by the AKC, was only recognized by the United Kennel Club (UKC) in 1999.6 Furthermore, the breed was called the "American pit bulldog" up until the 1970s.7
The many names of the pit bull over the course of history is why breed-specific legislation defines the pit bull as a "class of dogs" that includes the following breeds and their mixes: American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier and American bulldog.8 Despite pit bull owners, animal groups and dogfighters attempts to obscure the name of the pit bull breed, well-written breed-specific laws always encapsulate the pit bull's many names.
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I can go all lifetime - so keep your lies and propoganda coming Pidiots!
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Shut the fuck up. That's like saying guns kill people, ban all guns! But forget who is pulling the trigger. The owners of pit bulls are the ones to blame for their aggressiveness. You can take any dog, lock it up and beat the shit out of it and make it attack people, that's a FACT.
Your lack of any knowledge doesn't suprise me - when you have some information on the topic, come and see me, until then just Shut the Fuck Up - if you consider yourself tough, survive a twin pitbull attack, until then, your just a fuck in loser with an opinion and that's it. Unlike you, I have encountered pitbulls and although permanently and severely injured I survived. When you have fought two pitbulls and lived, come and talk to me, until then, your just another fringe dwelling societal loser trying to get informed people to take your Pidiot propaganda seriously. Oh, and by the way, guns do fucking kill people you moron, that is why guns are banned in most countries except the USA, and the only reason the USA is armed, because your government knows how much shit it causes all over the world and wants a backup for when the rest of the world come seeking revenge.
And how do you suggest we hold Pitbull owners accountable?
Do you have a plan?
Or are you OK with hearing of regular children's deaths, as long as they are not your friends and family.
I am interested in your plan on holding owners responsible, or do you know so little about the topic that you haven't even thought about it?
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The owner of the dogs who attacked E-Kul apparently sic the dogs on him...they could have been standard poddles and done about same or worse damage. Imagine had they been mastiffs.
I was working when I was attacked, i was doing a quote on a 10 acre propert, I was only on site about a minute, next thing I had flesh ripped from my body, my achilles tendon severed and left arm ripped up - I am 6'2 about 230 pounds at the moment, always been big and strong - for those who are calling me out, i am ready to fight any day of the week, if you think taking on a couple of pitbulls is an easy task, I invite any Getbigger to try it - you fags can call me what you like, but how many tough guys can claim to have survived an attack against two Pitbulls, I haven't met any so far - so in terms of dangerous tasks, I have done them all. I have said this before and i will say it again, those Pitbulls made any man I have ever met look like a giant walking Mangina, so whenever I hear the cliche Getbig tough talk, I laugh knowing that, behind the weakling tapping away at the keyboard is a frightened little person who has never been in a fight or a life threating situation in their life - Fucking Pussies!
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Ekul while I agree with your statement aboutt people blaiming the person or enviroment when a dog attacks. I do disavree on a few thing firstly a pitt or any dangerous animal should not be kept around kids period. Secondly id totally dominate any dog.that tried to attack me, did you have a dog growing up? Cause ive certainly learnt the massive limitations of a dogs ability just from playing around with them. My belief is that to own a dog every person shohld have a license and pass a practical course to show knowledge of how to handle dogs and raise them correctly. So many people think they know how but really have no idea. All dogs not just pits. Though I.must admit I initially keep my dov awY from all bull terrier breeds initially due to the fact the owners are.usually retards, if the owner seems normal then I.let them.play
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Ekul while I agree with your statement about people blaiming the person or enviroment when a dog attacks. I do disavree on a few thing firstly a pitt or any dangerous animal should not be kept around kids period. Secondly id totally dominate any dog.that tried to attack me, did you have a dog growing up? Cause ive certainly learnt the massive limitations of a dogs ability just from playing around with them. My belief is that to own a dog every person shohld have a license and pass a practical course to show knowledge of how to handle dogs and raise them correctly. So many people think they know how but really have no idea. All dogs not just pits. Though I.must admit I initially keep my dov awY from all bull terrier breeds initially due to the fact the owners are.usually retards, if the owner seems normal then I.let them.play
I have had dogs around me all my life - even owned a pitbull and I have a tattoo of a Pitbull on my back -I even used to regularly attend a staffordhire bull terrier dog club - your claim to be able to dominate attacking Pits is laughable - and I dare you to take on a couple of pits for yourself - you wont last a minute - your belief that you could shows me a lack of real life experience or just a lack of what Pitbulls are and CAN and do DO! I listen to dog dickheads all the time, they assume because there dog is fine, that they cant understand all the drama, what they don't realise is their is a long long list of victims still waiting to be heard. If you choose a dog that is marginalised, well you are just asking for trouble! Don't expect society to like your killer dogs or your child killing beliefs. You can believe all the BS you like in this world, I'll stick with the truth!
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I was working when I was attacked, i was doing a quote on a 10 acre propert, I was only on site about a minute, next thing I had flesh ripped from my body, my achilles tendon severed and left arm ripped up - I am 6'2 about 230 pounds at the moment, always been big and strong - for those who are calling me out, i am ready to fight any day of the week, if you think taking on a couple of pitbulls is an easy task, I invite any Getbigger to try it - you fags can call me what you like, but how many tough guys can claim to have survived an attack against two Pitbulls, I haven't met any so far - so in terms of dangerous tasks, I have done them all. I have said this before and i will say it again, those Pitbulls made any man I have ever met look like a giant walking Mangina, so whenever I hear the cliche Getbig tough talk, I laugh knowing that, behind the weakling tapping away at the keyboard is a frightened little person who has never been in a fight or a life threating situation in their life - Fucking Pussies!
I understand that it was a dangerous time...and I am in no playing it down, but I am willing to bet, that had that been two Mastiffs, Presa, or Dogos you wouldn't be here right now.
But, i tell you right now, a lot of people in the US doing the same type of work you do, carry guns, for a reason...
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I understand that it was a dangerous time...and I am in no playing it down, but I am willing to bet, that had that been two Mastiffs, Presa, or Dogos you wouldn't be here right now.
But, i tell you right now, a lot of people in the US doing the same type of work you do, carry guns, for a reason...
Look, had it been some of those bigger dogs you talk about, i would not probably be here, I think it was a miracle that I am, if nobody stopped the attack, you can rest assured I would be dead. The average idiot compares a Pitbull attack with a normal dog attack, but they are just ignorant, they dont understand the work that has gone into making these dogs an indomitable force. In Australia there are no weapons to be carried by citizens, I resent the laws and consider it a human rights violation, but until i can afford to live in another country, i have to do as the romans, over here they will pinch you for carring a pocket knife - odd legal system, you can walk the streets with a pitbull, but dont dare get caught with a pocket knife - I find our current society pretty fucked up, and if i was a criminal, i would def own Pitbulls, as you can injure and kill your enemies and get away with it.
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These dog dickheads make me sick!
Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in campaign group arguing that the animals are safe
Victim was member of 'Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls'
Husband: 'She will be buried with killer dog'
Two-year-old pitbull terrier shot after charging at police
Husband finds Darla Napora's body drenched in blood
Victim suffered dozens of bites to her body and face
A pregnant woman who was mauled to death by one of her pet pit bull terriers belonged to group campaigning to convince people that the animals aren't dangerous, it has emerged.
Darla Napora, 32, was bitten dozens of times and found by her husband Greg covered in blood outstretched on their living room floor in Pacifica, California.
Police say the two-year-old unneutered pit bull believed to be responsible was hovering around the woman, who had major injuries to her upper body and face.
Tragic: Darla Napora was a member of a pitbull advocacy group, it has emerged
Greg Napora returned home from work find his wife Darla outstretched on their living room floor having been bitten dozens of times
It has since emerged Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous.
'When they arrived, they found the victim laying in her own front living room; she was not breathing, unresponsive and had major trauma to her upper body,' said Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini.
'The husband stated that when he got home, at about noon, he found his wife with their pit bull hovering over her.'
Police shot the pit bull terrier, similar to the one pictured, dead as it tried to escape from the Napora's back garden
Police shot the blood covered animal dead as it tried to escape from the back garden whilst officers conducted their investigation.
'The last thing we wanted to happen was for the dog to get out and start attacking bystanders or be loose in the neighbourhood,' Bertini said.
'So as soon as the dog got out of the backyard, the decision was immediately made to put that dog down and that's why the dog was shot three times by two officers on scene.'
Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.<--- This right here is some sick twisted shit!
Locals had strong reactions to Mrs Napora's death and many said they didn't know the couple had dogs as they hadn’t seen them outside.
Neighbour Tom Lujan believes pit bulls are dangerous: 'I wouldn't have one, and I wouldn't want my family around one,' he said.
The Napora's next door neighbour surprisingly said the dogs had always been well behaved.
Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini said that as officers tried CPR on Mrs Napora the pit bull terrier broke free and charged at them
Darla Napora was found in her home in Pacifica, California, having been mauled to death by one of her two dogs
'We shared a fence with them and if our dogs were barking at each other she'd call them off and they'd back off. They responded very well.'
For Greg Napora the tragic attack came out of the blue (fancy that, Pitbulls are dangerous - this is why telling the truth is so important - and not spreading propoganda for your own self serving interests!) as they had had the dog since it was a puppy.
Police said there were no prior problems at the household and no reason to expect the dog attack.
'Eventually we're going to find out if there's anything physically or medically wrong with the dog that may have caused this attack,' Bertini said.
The couple owned another 6-year-old pit bull who has been spayed.
The other dog was taken to the Peninsula Humane Society for examination although Police do not believe the other pit bull had anything to do with the attack.
An autopsy for the woman and a necropsy for the dog were scheduled for Friday.
It is unknown how far along Darla was with her pregnancy.
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LMFAO @ E-Kulo melting down over pitbulls AGAIN!!!!!!!!! HAhAA!!!!!! ;D ;D
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LMFAO @ E-Kulo melting down over pitbulls AGAIN!!!!!!!!! HAhAA!!!!!! ;D ;D
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LMFAO @ E-Kulo melting down over pitbulls AGAIN!!!!!!!!! HAhAA!!!!!! ;D ;D
No Meltdown, just a controlled agressive defense trying to help minimise children killed by Pitbulls, (I know saving children is so cliche these days - but dying at the jaws of a pitbull when only a child isn't a nice way to die) if you think this is a meltdown, well I stay permanately in attack mode, I say it all the time, I will fight anywhere anytime - I have been calling Rampage out for a while now! No meltdown, just a concern for children, some of us adults still care about the little buggers you know.
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No Meltdown, just a controlled agressive defense trying to help minimise children killed by Pitbulls, (I know saving children is so cliche these days - but dying at the jaws of a pitbull when only a child isn't a nice way to die) if you think this is a meltdown, well I stay permanately in attack mode, I say it all the time, I will fight anywhere anytime - I have been calling Rampage out for a while now! No meltdown, just a concern for children, some of us adults still care about the little buggers you know.
Still having a fit ??? LMAO!! Guess if you weren't such a retard you would have gotten back in the car when you saw those dogs coming. :D
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Thats some wocked fear of dogs you got there. Man up. Since pitbulls were banned in the uk dog attacks are much much rarer. Before they were banned everyday it was I. Tbe paper. Its a fighting dog. You can keep a lion for so long as a.pet but sooner or later its just a dangerous animal
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Were you a debt collector?
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Still having a fit ??? LMAO!! Guess if you weren't such a retard you would have gotten back in the car when you saw those dogs coming. :D
I am amazed how many people seem to know my story but they haven't ever heard it. I was in an open field at least 150 metres from my car, thats one hell of a just get back in the car, if I was Hussein Bolt, i may have made it in about 15 secs, maybe, just maybe enough time, but I guess I will never now. It does not suprise me that people make comments on stories they haven't even heard. I have only ever told briefly what has happened and idiots espescially Pidiots make the rest up as they see fit!
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Your lack of any knowledge doesn't suprise me - when you have some information on the topic, come and see me, until then just Shut the Fuck Up - if you consider yourself tough, survive a twin pitbull attack, until then, your just a fuck in loser with an opinion and that's it. Unlike you, I have encountered pitbulls and although permanently and severely injured I survived. When you have fought two pitbulls and lived, come and talk to me, until then, your just another fringe dwelling societal loser trying to get informed people to take your Pidiot propaganda seriously. Oh, and by the way, guns do fucking kill people you moron, that is why guns are banned in most countries except the USA, and the only reason the USA is armed, because your government knows how much shit it causes all over the world and wants a backup for when the rest of the world come seeking revenge.
And how do you suggest we hold Pitbull owners accountable?
Do you have a plan?
Or are you OK with hearing of regular children's deaths, as long as they are not your friends and family.
I am interested in your plan on holding owners responsible, or do you know so little about the topic that you haven't even thought about it?
You got fucked up by two dogs? Please go kill yourself and do the gene pool a favor.
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Thats some wocked fear of dogs you got there. Man up. Since pitbulls were banned in the uk dog attacks are much much rarer. Before they were banned everyday it was I. Tbe paper. Its a fighting dog. You can keep a lion for so long as a.pet but sooner or later its just a dangerous animal
HA HA - it is always an obvious give away that you are dealing with a complete pussy when he likes to parade around the fact that he can handle two pitbulls attacking him, I have tried it and survived, if you where any type of real man you would demonstrate your Pitbull defensive techniques, but I imagine I am the only man here who has fought Pitbulls. Who is the greatest opponent you have ever fought other than your fat sloppy arsed mother? I can tell you word for word how to defend agaist an attacking Pitbull, as a matter of fact I demonstrate the method on a regular basis - what defensive techniques do you teach on a regular basis against attacking Pitbulls!
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You got fucked up by two dogs? Please go kill yourself and do the gene pool a favor.
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Epic Pidiot Meltdown!
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Yep E-Kulo in for a long down of tear filled anti-pitbull posts. Hahaa! What a crybaby! :D
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Epic Pidiot Meltdown!
Did you rip out their spines with your bare hands? I'm curious if you were trained by the great Suckymymuscle and his dog fighting techniques?
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Yep E-Kulo in for a long down of tear filled anti-pitbull posts. Hahaa! What a crybaby! :D
Oh Chaos!, you still carrying that torch for me - I always attract those angry bear types! are you still not getting laid? I hope that rash on your cock has cleared up! I know how much that affected your self esteem and your love life. remeber, no more cheap hookers and those rashes should be a thing of the past!
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E-Kul, please post another pic of your sloppy titted gf
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Yep E-Kulo in for a long down of tear filled anti-pitbull posts. Hahaa! What a crybaby! :D
Oh, I dont cry for me, I cry for the kids - there is a differene, after the attack I just went on living, but after I kept hearing of children being killed and nothing done about it, I spoke up, and I still do. I believe my stance will one day make a difference and I will actually save childrens lives and also victims permanent and horrible injuries and scarring, that is why I suffer the fools, idiots and know it alls - beause my motivation is pure & simple - to save childrens lives.
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Typical roided out dick. Disagrees with you and if you dont give in says how he can smash your face in. there are no pitbulls in britain but I quite happily walk anywhere that there are guard dogs with no fear.
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Typical roided out dick. Disagrees with you and if you dont give in says how he can smash your face in. there are no pitbulls in britain but I quite happily walk anywhere that there are guard dogs with no fear.
Every year 5,000000000 kids are killed by pitbull attacks
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Were you a debt collector?
No! most people on this board know my story - I used to run a large area lawn mowing service - I had just arrived at a ten acre property and had knocked on the door to no answer and then moved about 20 meteres away from the house into an open space to look for the owner and thats when i was attacked!
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Ekul is a man ruled by his own fear.
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E-Kul, please post another pic of your sloppy titted gf
I prefer the one of your sloppy titted mother!
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What happened to you was completely wrong and not an isolated incident but you cant live your life with such a negitivity toward.them. Some and I mean some peoples pits are pure harmless.
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Ekul is a man ruled by his own fear.
You have me mistaken for yourself, my fear makes me strong, it gives me strength to stand up to weak mean like yourself. I am and always will be a strong man, it upsets other people, but the fact is the fact - I am tougher than the average Joe - But I am kind and generous and never use my size to my advantage. Your problem is you have absolutely no idea how shit scared you are, the tough act is a dead give away!
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What happened to you was completely wrong and not an isolated incident but you cant live your life with such a negitivity toward.them. Some and I mean some peoples pits are pure harmless.
Yeah and some rapists and murderers wont offend again, I still don't want myself, friends or family around them! people here mistake my stance as fear, it is for others I fight, I genuinely want to save children, something a Pidiot cares little about!
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E-Kulo so full of rage and anger about getting beat up by a couple puppy dogs. Hahaa! What a whiny little bitch. ;D
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E-Kulo so full of rage and anger about getting beat up by a couple puppy dogs. Hahaa! What a whiny little bitch. ;D
Oh Chaos, are you still trying to ride my nutsack, are you still upset that I don't fuel your narcissistic complex?
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Your logic doesnt make sense, you dont trust a dog thats already attacked is the comparison there. A criminal has done it before. Not all humans cant be trusted. And scared? Scared of what exactly you clown.
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E-Kulo so full of rage and anger about getting beat up by a couple puppy dogs. Hahaa! What a whiny little bitch. ;D
Yes, E-Kul is a little bitch. This much is certain.
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Your logic doesnt make sense, you dont trust a dog thats already attacked is the comparison there. A criminal has done it before. Not all humans cant be trusted. And scared? Scared of what exactly you clown.
See, this is what I have to deal with, retarded mumble that makes no sense. Please post at a higher than fith grade level if you genuinely seek an answer? What the fuck are you asking you bumbling clown?
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Yes, E-Kul is a little bitch. This much is certain.
Easy to play tough online - tell me, how did you go in your last fight against two pitbulls? Oh, thats right, you could never be man enough to attempt it, but you are so tough you can call people who have fought pitbulls out. Why is it all the small weak little men try and get a reputation of a clearly superior and stronger individual than themselves, this are the dudes I have always given a little extra beating too in a fight, just to let them know I was paying attention when they were being an arsehole. Unlike you blokes, I tually like to fight other men, especially the ones with big mouths, they tend to open them as my fist sends teeth hurtling down the back of their throats, very funny to watch a man swallow his own teeth after he just spoke shit to you.
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You think im the one whos scared? I have nothing to fear. Your comparison was so off its beyond. Moron.
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Easy to play tough online - tell me, how did you go in your last fight against two pitbulls? Oh, thats right, you could never be man enough to attempt it, but you are so tough you can call people who have fought pitbulls out. Why is it all the small weak little men try and get a reputation of a clearly superior and stronger individual than themselves, this are the dudes I have always given a little extra beating too in a fight, just to let them know I was paying attention when they were being an arsehole.
How many street fights do you get into mowing lawns?
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Easy to play tough online - tell me, how did you go in your last fight against two pitbulls? Oh, thats right, you could never be man enough to attempt it, but you are so tough you can call people who have fought pitbulls out. Why is it all the small weak little men try and get a reputation of a clearly superior and stronger individual than themselves, this are the dudes I have always given a little extra beating too in a fight, just to let them know I was paying attention when they were being an arsehole. Unlike you blokes, I tually like to fight other men, especially the ones with big mouths, they tend to open them as my fist sends teeth hurtling down the back of their throats, very funny to watch a man swallow his own teeth after he just spoke shit to you.
If you were tough you would realize that it's the owners fault not the dog. Pit Bulls aren't bred to attack people asshole. Instead you carry a chip on your shoulder.
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You think im the one whos scared? I have nothing to fear. Your comparison was so off its beyond. Moron.
Your fear emanates of every tough guy post you make! I can practically smell the urine leaking down the inside of your leg, men who call other men out online, are never tough men - NEVER! I sense I would finish you in under a minute! I accept yur challenge and am prepared to meet. I live in Melbourne Australia. if you are truly tough, pm me - I know you never will - I always look for decent sparring partners, but always just seem to attract loud mouth internet pussies, they are good to beat on, but hard to develop your skillset when fighting losers all the time!
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Lol @ E-Kulo still melting down threatening to beat up people online! Hahaa!!! What a sniveling little twat! ;D
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If you were tough you would realize that it's the owners fault not the dog. Pit Bulls aren't bred to attack people asshole. Instead you carry a chip on your shoulder.
Sorry Pidiot, but you are talking to an educated man, not some gullible moron who laps up all your propoganda - oh and its not a chip its permanent scarring. And I will ask once again, how does pointing out it is the owners fault prevent future dog attacks or pay for victims medical and legal expenses - funny that, it doesnt! Until you actually adopt a view that prevents attacks and supports victims, you will be hated along with your idiotic breed of dog!
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Lol @ E-Kulo still melting down threatening to beat up people online! Hahaa!!! What a sniveling little twat! ;D
No threats, just responding to tough guy challenges. I was brought up as a man to not start fights, but never, and I mean never back down from a man who starts one - the big mouths always quit fast!
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How many street fights do you get into mowing lawns?
I haven't always mowed lawns, but I have always been in fights, and at 39 I still get in them! No shame in fighting for the right cause!
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Sorry Pidiot, but you are talking to an educated man, not some gullible moron who laps up all your propoganda - oh and its not a chip its permanent scarring. And I will ask once again, how does pointing out it is the owners fault prevent future dog attacks or pay for victims medical and legal expenses - funny that, it doesnt! Until you actually adopt a view that prevents attacks and supports victims, you will be hated along with your idiotic breed of dog!
I've owned pitbulls all my life, and they absolutely loved people. But because you had a terrible experience, you want to ban or kill these dogs.
You're self centered plain and simple.
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I remember seeing a vid of this guy who was a naturalist...he got mauled by a grizzly---has like half a face. He became an advocate. Because he said that he was in the Bear's territory, I forgot the story, but he ended up truly fucked.
In the same vid, there was this Ranger who got fucked up by a Grizzly, she played dead and didn't get bit that much. But, what she did was go check out a elk carcass that the bear had been feeding on. The bear saw her from the top of a hill and came down like lightening, fast as hell...
Each time, it was the human that was encrouching on the animal's territory.
Maybe those dogs thought you were encrouching on their territory...and like "guard dogs", they went after you.
Who knows...but, I know where my grandparents live, which is a very rural area. They are "beware of Dog" signs all over the place...
Shit, one guy has a pack of hunting hounds, like he going "let loose the hounds" on a runaway slave.
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Oh christ I see Ekuhl the anti pitbull crusader got to this thread ::)
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I never threatened to fight you and this muscle flexing might impress derick anthony but not me. We live worlds apart so its never going to happen and lets face itid only need to bring my dog lol.
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I never threatened to fight you and this muscle flexing might impress derick anthony but not me. We live worlds apart so its never going to happen and lets face itid only need to bring my dog lol.
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I've owned pitbulls all my life, and they absolutely loved people. But because you had a terrible experience, you want to ban or kill these dogs.
You're self centered plain and simple.
I have been acused of many things, but it takes the cake to be called Self centred because I am highly motivated to prevent serious and fatal attacks on children. But then again, Pidiots have the most twisted and bizarre logic I have ever encountered in a human being.
Once again, you dont know my story,, I have owned a Pitbull, regularly went to staffordshire dog club meeting, even have a pitbull tattooed on my back, you dudes just like to hate because you think you know all the answers and that victims don't exist and blah blah this and blah blah that - The Lies get tired REAL quick!
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Once again, you dont know my story,, I have owned a Pitbull, regularly went to staffordshire dog club meeting, even have a pitbull tattooed on my back, you dudes just like to hate because you think you know all the answers and that victims don't exist and blah blah this and blah blah that - The Lies get tired REAL quick!
Being a dick aside, what would you do about these breeds?
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You're calling people Pidiots... but yet, you have a tattoo of a pit on your back??
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Once again, you dont know my story,, I have owned a Pitbull, regularly went to staffordshire dog club meeting, even have a pitbull tattooed on my back, you dudes just like to hate because you think you know all the answers and that victims don't exist and blah blah this and blah blah that - The Lies get tired REAL quick!
Every large breed of dogs has been guilty of attacks on people not just pitbulls. If you raise them right there shouldn't be an issue. Our male is 13 years old now. Never once in his life showed even a slight bit of aggression twords humans. I don't get people like you. You're like someone who got shot and wants to ban guns for everyone.
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Please bring your dog, I will be more than ready and waiting - you will have to excuse me while I take care of the dog first, as that would be the only really serious threat! I look forward to having his carcass embalmed and hung as a trophy in my lounge room. I would seriously do that, it would be a great conversation piece.
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Please bring your dog, I will be more than ready and waiting - you will have to excuse me while I take care of the dog first, as that would be the only really serious threat! I look forward to having his carcass embalmed and hung as a trophy in my lounge room. I would seriously do that, it would be a great conversation piece.
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holl shit lots of hatters....
E Kul, I don't know you and I don t know your history with the breed. I assure you that it was an exception, you know many cases IDIOT people have street dog's with APBT genes in their blood with 1000 of others breeds for defense or protection porpoises... remember (not the real breed with pedigree and stuff). What happen is that 90% of the cases the owner get's disappointed with the results and starts to mistreat the animal.... beat up, no food for two hole days, trapped in a space where he can only move the neck and the list goes on... imagine yourself trapped in the end of the yard when some fuckin scary bad human comes closer. After all this 5 starts Hotel treatment what are you going to think about humans ? They are no racional...
If you're going to post this media crap, I can post tons of websites (official and no official) saying that pit's aren t what you are saying they are.
I mean how come you explain that I pull the ass of my dog, take the toy out of his mouth when he's playing, and all the other things that I love to do just to play with him and he's never react differently than his ass swaying... Genes have a big influence in temper of any dogs, that's why real serious dog breeders care so much about it, and if a dog comes with ANY sign of aggressiveness they don't reproduce with him anymore.
Try to open your mind and give it a chance, they'll surprise you. No need to all this hate in your heart, not good for you. A Chow Chow already beat me in the past and some years later I addopted one and he was a fuckin lady. (but very boring as well)
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Being a dick aside, what would you do about these breeds?
I think my stance is obvious, the breed for it's own good need to be eliminated - no life form like to be used in this way, humans have a tendency to misuse others in less dominant positions - animals are no exception. Even the US Military bans many large breeds, inluding pitbulls from military barracks - only highly skilled handlers can own one. Until society comes up with a way to
A) Prevent dog attacks and B) Support Victims of Attack this debate will rage on.
I believe every human being has the right to defend themselves from attack, and unfortunately, there aren't many man who know how to fight dogs (a mate of mine who is MMA instructor actually has demonstrated how to fight a dog, but even he says your fucked when there are multiples) and if society is going to legislate for certain types of risk, the need to give the citizens appropriate weapons to defend themselves.
So society either has to teach owners to or legislate for:
A: Muzzle their fucking dog - I have no idea why dog owners dont do this anyway
B: Force owners to carry break sticks
C: Give citizens appropraite training and weapons to defend themselves
D: Legislate so that dog ownership is outlawed except for certified trainers
Thats what I propose
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Kul, this is my lil fella, he is 1/2 pit bull. Would you wish him to be banned as well ???
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Half of c.and d and youve got a legitimate answer. Train certify and legistate. Andfull of shit hard man. your
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E-Kulo still crying like a little kid that just had a mean ol doggy steal its ice cream. :(
Lol.
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Kul, this is my lil fella, he is 1/2 pit bull. Would you wish him to be banned as well ???
I would much prefer that, than hearing about one more child being killed. Sorry, tough call, but Pitbull owners knew the deal when they chose them as a pet, they are a known marginalised dog that will attract you negative attention. hearing about a dog being killed, somehow doesn't affect me as much as hearing about children being killed. Sorry dog lovers, i just like people more......
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I think my stance is obvious, the breed for it's own good need to be eliminated - no life form like to be used in this way, humans have a tendency to misuse others in less dominant positions - animals are no exception. Even the US Military bans many large breeds, inluding pitbulls from military barracks - only highly skilled handlers can own one. Until society comes up with a way to
A) Prevent dog attacks and B) Support Victims of Attack this debate will rage on.
I believe every human being has the right to defend themselves from attack, and unfortunately, there aren't many man who know how to fight dogs (a mate of mine who is MMA instructor actually has demonstrated how to fight a dog, but even he says your fucked when there are multiples) and if society is going to legislate for certain types of risk, the need to give the citizens appropriate weapons to defend themselves.
So society either has to teach owners to or legislate for:
A: Muzzle their fucking dog - I have no idea why dog owners dont do this anyway
B: Force owners to carry break sticks
C: Give citizens appropraite training and weapons to defend themselves
D: Legislate so that dog ownership is outlawed except for certified trainers
Thats what I propose
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E-Kulo getting his blood pressure up in this thread...quick somebody call a waaaambulance!!!
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E-Kulo still crying like a little kid that just had a mean ol doggy steal its ice cream. :(
Lol.
Oh Chaos, are you feeling still hurt! man you can cry for a long time about nothing! it does make me laugh though to see you look for an opportunity to try and hurt my feelings back! obviously, because I know you, and that terrible affliction you suffer from i go easy on you! But thanks for the laughs eh!
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I think my stance is obvious, the breed for it's own good need to be eliminated - no life form like to be used in this way, humans have a tendency to misuse others in less dominant positions - animals are no exception. Even the US Military bans many large breeds, inluding pitbulls from military barracks - only highly skilled handlers can own one. Until society comes up with a way to
A) Prevent dog attacks and B) Support Victims of Attack this debate will rage on.
I believe every human being has the right to defend themselves from attack, and unfortunately, there aren't many man who know how to fight dogs (a mate of mine who is MMA instructor actually has demonstrated how to fight a dog, but even he says your fucked when there are multiples) and if society is going to legislate for certain types of risk, the need to give the citizens appropriate weapons to defend themselves.
So society either has to teach owners to or legislate for:
A: Muzzle their fucking dog - I have no idea why dog owners dont do this anyway
B: Force owners to carry break sticks
C: Give citizens appropraite training and weapons to defend themselves
D: Legislate so that dog ownership is outlawed except for certified trainers
Thats what I propose
Holly shit you are a crazy sick dude man.. sorry but you are.
What an Stoneage thinking... when I was in Spain las year a Black man comes to me at night at put a fuckin .45 in my head saying he's going to blow my head up if I don't give to him my money. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO now all the black people have to be banned from this world or have a fucking gps ship in their head.... fuckin nonsense talk..
BTW my best friend is a crazy very black man ;D ;D
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Holly shit you are a crazy sick dude man.. sorry but you are.
What an Stoneage thinking... when I was in Spain las year a Black man comes to me at night at put a fuckin .45 in my head saying he's going to blow my head up if I don't give to him my money. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO now all the black people have to be banned from this world or have a fucking gps ship in their head.... fuckin nonsense talk..
BTW my best friend is a crazy very black man ;D ;D
A man can defend himself against another man, against attacking dogs he has no chance, also if you are attacked by a man there is a justice and supprot system in place to deal with it. If you are attacked by dogs, you are on your own. Comparing dogs to humans is a no win argument for you. Humans are civilised, dogs are semi wild - It has long been known, that those that speak the truth, upset the ignorant , uneducated, and those in denial. And the more you guys get upset, the more I know I am right, your stance is just one of believing that bad shit can never happen to you and trying to minimise or deny the reality of a situation. You Pidiots can fight for the right to own child killing dogs, personally I find it more satisfying to defend and save children. Simple choice really, unless you hate people of course, which almost every Pidiot I have spoken too has an underlying unconcious rage against his fellow man - hence the dog!
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Had enough of you Pidiots - fight later - going to finish watching UFC in OZ
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Lol @ E-Kulo tryting desperately to not accept the asskicking he just took. ;D
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Lol @ E-Kulo tryting desperately to not accept the asskicking he just took. ;D
He's a dumb ass. His first dumb move is living in a place where you can't even have a fork in your pocket it's considered a deadly weapon. Then he pulls up to some guys farm in the middle of nowhere in only sandals and shorts. Gets his ass kicked by two dogs almost dies. Now he hates da evil pitbull more than anything in the world.
You don't go to places you aren't familiar with without having some kind of plan or way of protecting yourself. You fucked up.
Pitbulls are one of the friendlist breeds you can own if they're raised correctly. They don't just snap on owners you idiot. You sound like a whiny liberal. Ban the pitbulls its for the children ::)
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A man can defend himself against another man, against attacking dogs he has no chance, also if you are attacked by a man there is a justice and supprot system in place to deal with it. If you are attacked by dogs, you are on your own. Comparing dogs to humans is a no win argument for you. Humans are civilised, dogs are semi wild - It has long been known, that those that speak the truth, upset the ignorant , uneducated, and those in denial. And the more you guys get upset, the more I know I am right, your stance is just one of believing that bad shit can never happen to you and trying to minimise or deny the reality of a situation. You Pidiots can fight for the right to own child killing dogs, personally I find it more satisfying to defend and save children. Simple choice really, unless you hate people of course, which almost every Pidiot I have spoken too has an underlying unconcious rage against his fellow man - hence the dog!
A man can defende himself open's a LACK of but's here ok you sick one...
If the bad guy have a gun ? If he is with two more bad guys with guns ? If you have too much to loose and decide not to react ? If the guy that's being robed is a person that don't know how to defend himself or is afraid to do it, if you just don't want to end up dead and don't react ? if you're a pussy and don't react, if the bad guys is with 10 more with knifes and metal sticks.................
I have IF's for a eternity here.
Can look how ignorant you are, how many people are robbed everyday and how many of the robber's are lock down in prison ? The rate is 100000000x higher than dog attacks/day.
I think that you don t know but the penal system HAVE LAWS that punishes the owner of the pet in case of attack's or aggression,,,, And I can assure you that more dog's owner's pays for the attacks (due to bad treatment - ALL BREED'S NO EXEPTION) than robber's pay for the people they robbed.
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This is the story I refused to report on because the dog was a 120 lbs mastiff mix and not a pit bull. It had short hair and was muscular, but it was not a pit.
In another instance, the dogs that killed the Whipple lady in SF were reported as pits for about 2 years until they were correctly ID'd as presa canarios, which saw referenced as "akin to a pit bull" in a newspaper. That is a highly inaccurate claim, but that's what people will read and remember.
What happened to you sucks, you're desperately looking for someone to blame, and you've found your target. Throw a rock in the air, you're bound to hit someone guilty.
These dog dickheads make me sick!
Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in campaign group arguing that the animals are safe
Victim was member of 'Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls'
Husband: 'She will be buried with killer dog'
Two-year-old pitbull terrier shot after charging at police
Husband finds Darla Napora's body drenched in blood
Victim suffered dozens of bites to her body and face
A pregnant woman who was mauled to death by one of her pet pit bull terriers belonged to group campaigning to convince people that the animals aren't dangerous, it has emerged.
Darla Napora, 32, was bitten dozens of times and found by her husband Greg covered in blood outstretched on their living room floor in Pacifica, California.
Police say the two-year-old unneutered pit bull believed to be responsible was hovering around the woman, who had major injuries to her upper body and face.
Tragic: Darla Napora was a member of a pitbull advocacy group, it has emerged
Greg Napora returned home from work find his wife Darla outstretched on their living room floor having been bitten dozens of times
It has since emerged Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous.
'When they arrived, they found the victim laying in her own front living room; she was not breathing, unresponsive and had major trauma to her upper body,' said Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini.
'The husband stated that when he got home, at about noon, he found his wife with their pit bull hovering over her.'
Police shot the pit bull terrier, similar to the one pictured, dead as it tried to escape from the Napora's back garden
Police shot the blood covered animal dead as it tried to escape from the back garden whilst officers conducted their investigation.
'The last thing we wanted to happen was for the dog to get out and start attacking bystanders or be loose in the neighbourhood,' Bertini said.
'So as soon as the dog got out of the backyard, the decision was immediately made to put that dog down and that's why the dog was shot three times by two officers on scene.'
Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.<--- This right here is some sick twisted shit!
Locals had strong reactions to Mrs Napora's death and many said they didn't know the couple had dogs as they hadn’t seen them outside.
Neighbour Tom Lujan believes pit bulls are dangerous: 'I wouldn't have one, and I wouldn't want my family around one,' he said.
The Napora's next door neighbour surprisingly said the dogs had always been well behaved.
Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini said that as officers tried CPR on Mrs Napora the pit bull terrier broke free and charged at them
Darla Napora was found in her home in Pacifica, California, having been mauled to death by one of her two dogs
'We shared a fence with them and if our dogs were barking at each other she'd call them off and they'd back off. They responded very well.'
For Greg Napora the tragic attack came out of the blue (fancy that, Pitbulls are dangerous - this is why telling the truth is so important - and not spreading propoganda for your own self serving interests!) as they had had the dog since it was a puppy.
Police said there were no prior problems at the household and no reason to expect the dog attack.
'Eventually we're going to find out if there's anything physically or medically wrong with the dog that may have caused this attack,' Bertini said.
The couple owned another 6-year-old pit bull who has been spayed.
The other dog was taken to the Peninsula Humane Society for examination although Police do not believe the other pit bull had anything to do with the attack.
An autopsy for the woman and a necropsy for the dog were scheduled for Friday.
It is unknown how far along Darla was with her pregnancy.
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Wow, your dog looks EXACTLY like mine! :D
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I think my stance is obvious, the breed for it's own good need to be eliminated - no life form like to be used in this way, humans have a tendency to misuse others in less dominant positions - animals are no exception. Even the US Military bans many large breeds, inluding pitbulls from military barracks - only highly skilled handlers can own one. Until society comes up with a way to
A) Prevent dog attacks and B) Support Victims of Attack this debate will rage on.
I believe every human being has the right to defend themselves from attack, and unfortunately, there aren't many man who know how to fight dogs (a mate of mine who is MMA instructor actually has demonstrated how to fight a dog, but even he says your fucked when there are multiples) and if society is going to legislate for certain types of risk, the need to give the citizens appropriate weapons to defend themselves.
So society either has to teach owners to or legislate for:
A: Muzzle their fucking dog - I have no idea why dog owners dont do this anyway
B: Force owners to carry break sticks
C: Give citizens appropraite training and weapons to defend themselves
D: Legislate so that dog ownership is outlawed except for certified trainers
Thats what I propose
blah blah blah.
you got attacked and for that i feel badly for you. i wouldnt wish that on anyone.
but now you want to 'legislate' and regulate an entire breed of dog because you had a bad experience? is that a little fucking high and mighty of you.
and probably not just one breed of dog. you wont be happy till every dog YOU pose a threat was regulated, isnt that right?
you need to suck it up and move on.
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Heres a question for you pit onrs, im curious as we dont hvae.pits in the uk. Could ANYONE walk into your house while you were away without any grief from your dog. I used to believe a.dog should attack an intruder but as I got.older I.realised thy are pets and should only attack if you are in direct harm. A dog is a deterent not a weapon.
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Heres a question for you pit onrs, im curious as we dont hvae.pits in the uk. Could ANYONE walk into your house while you were away without any grief from your dog. I used to believe a.dog should attack an intruder but as I got.older I.realised thy are pets and should only attack if you are in direct harm. A dog is a deterent not a weapon.
Do you have English Staffys, Irish Staffys, Bull Terriers?
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Yeah the staffies are amazing with people engligbulls are great the play around.with really.tough but they are also.like a special kid. My mates would play around with.me then when they left the room out of sign he would try to attack me knowing they couldnt see him. I used to have to hold his cheeks and call them to get him.off me. Bit through my ear.once. Didnt stop me playing with him. Tough as hell
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I'll give you a hint, the electric company walked into my backyard and installed a new meter when I wasn't home. Two useless f'ing pits watched them do it! >:(
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Yeah the staffies are amazing with people engligbulls are great the play around.with really.tough but they are also.like a special kid. My mates would play around with.me then when they left the room out of sign he would try to attack me knowing they couldnt see him. I used to have to hold his cheeks and call them to get him.off me. Bit through my ear.once. Didnt stop me playing with him. Tough as hell
What you just described, is how people in this thread describe APBTs, yet those same breeds are fighting breeds, and precluded the APBT---in fact the English Staffy, Iraih Staffy looks like a smaller version.
Do you honestly think Brits would ban their own dogs?
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Heres a question for you pit onrs, im curious as we dont hvae.pits in the uk. Could ANYONE walk into your house while you were away without any grief from your dog. I used to believe a.dog should attack an intruder but as I got.older I.realised thy are pets and should only attack if you are in direct harm. A dog is a deterent not a weapon.
my pits are worthless as watch dogs (as are most pits). they don't bark, and wouldn't react in anything but a positive manner to someone they didn't know. Their looks alone might deter someone, but they are otherwise worthless. If someone was attacking me, I still don't think my dogs would do a damn thing.
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Same here. Pits aren't great watch dogs. I had a Rottweiler that would be on someone in a second though
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the only positive way that my pet would help if a intruder enters here would jump on him with his toy in his mouth so much that the guy would get pissed off and leave ;D ;D love the energy of APBT
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You don't go to places you aren't familiar with without having some kind of plan or way of protecting yourself. You fucked up.
Pitbulls are one of the friendlist breeds you can own if they're raised correctly. They don't just snap on owners you idiot. You sound like a whiny liberal. Ban the pitbulls its for the children ::)
I love to hear from the people who love to blame the victims for their own attack. It is pretty hard to defend a situation were you are invited to someones property to quote for a service, and then shortly after exiting the car being mauled to near death, Pitbulls do indeed snap, and you sound like an arrogant overinflated american, Your comment "Ban the Pitbulls, its for the children" is the scariest thing I have heard come out of a Pidiots mouth. Pidiots will never accept the truth, that Pitbulls kill an american every 3 weeks - this is fact, you can deny the facts but the long list of dead children tends to weigh a little heavier in my mind. I am sorry that your concern for children doesn't include their right to safety or to even live for that matter, but since I was attacked, i have learnt the Pidiots are the most evil human beings alive, bar none. I would rather share a room with a rapist or murderer than a Pit Bull lover - this is the truth!
These dog dickheads make me sick!
Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in campaign group arguing that the animals are safe
Victim was member of 'Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls'
Husband: 'She will be buried with killer dog'
Two-year-old pitbull terrier shot after charging at police
Husband finds Darla Napora's body drenched in blood
Victim suffered dozens of bites to her body and face
A pregnant woman who was mauled to death by one of her pet pit bull terriers belonged to group campaigning to convince people that the animals aren't dangerous, it has emerged.
Darla Napora, 32, was bitten dozens of times and found by her husband Greg covered in blood outstretched on their living room floor in Pacifica, California.
Police say the two-year-old unneutered pit bull believed to be responsible was hovering around the woman, who had major injuries to her upper body and face.
Tragic: Darla Napora was a member of a pitbull advocacy group, it has emerged
Greg Napora returned home from work find his wife Darla outstretched on their living room floor having been bitten dozens of times
It has since emerged Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous.
'When they arrived, they found the victim laying in her own front living room; she was not breathing, unresponsive and had major trauma to her upper body,' said Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini.
'The husband stated that when he got home, at about noon, he found his wife with their pit bull hovering over her.'
Police shot the pit bull terrier, similar to the one pictured, dead as it tried to escape from the Napora's back garden
Police shot the blood covered animal dead as it tried to escape from the back garden whilst officers conducted their investigation.
'The last thing we wanted to happen was for the dog to get out and start attacking bystanders or be loose in the neighbourhood,' Bertini said.
'So as soon as the dog got out of the backyard, the decision was immediately made to put that dog down and that's why the dog was shot three times by two officers on scene.'
Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.<--- This right here is some sick twisted shit!
Locals had strong reactions to Mrs Napora's death and many said they didn't know the couple had dogs as they hadn’t seen them outside.
Neighbour Tom Lujan believes pit bulls are dangerous: 'I wouldn't have one, and I wouldn't want my family around one,' he said.
The Napora's next door neighbour surprisingly said the dogs had always been well behaved.
Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini said that as officers tried CPR on Mrs Napora the pit bull terrier broke free and charged at them
Darla Napora was found in her home in Pacifica, California, having been mauled to death by one of her two dogs
'We shared a fence with them and if our dogs were barking at each other she'd call them off and they'd back off. They responded very well.'
For Greg Napora the tragic attack came out of the blue (fancy that, Pitbulls are dangerous - this is why telling the truth is so important - and not spreading propoganda for your own self serving interests!) as they had had the dog since it was a puppy.
Police said there were no prior problems at the household and no reason to expect the dog attack.
'Eventually we're going to find out if there's anything physically or medically wrong with the dog that may have caused this attack,' Bertini said.
The couple owned another 6-year-old pit bull who has been spayed.
The other dog was taken to the Peninsula Humane Society for examination although Police do not believe the other pit bull had anything to do with the attack.
An autopsy for the woman and a necropsy for the dog were scheduled for Friday.
It is unknown how far along Darla was with her pregnancy.
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LOL, back for more...what a queef.
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blah blah blah.
you got attacked and for that i feel badly for you. i wouldnt wish that on anyone.
but now you want to 'legislate' and regulate an entire breed of dog because you had a bad experience? is that a little fucking high and mighty of you.
and probably not just one breed of dog. you wont be happy till every dog YOU pose a threat was regulated, isnt that right?
you need to suck it up and move on.
Once again, I will dumb it down for your Pidiot brain - The attack cause permanent injuries - both physical and psychological - I had to close my business - I have spent my life savings on recovery (which is a lot), the owners had the gall to contest the council hearing (Council Won), I am still waiting 2 1/2 years later to get the legal proceedings even started. Now at first because I had plenty of money and resources I got on with living, but then I kept hearing of children worldwide and even here at home being permanently and severely injured, so I took up the cause. If you think what i describe as somehow being high & mighty, well this is fine - I can honestly say my motivation is to save children's lives - so any attack from a Pidiot is laughable, because I know they aren't interested in saving children's lives, just their right to own dogs that would lose them half a dozen friends the day they purchased it. My argument is, that a citizen should be able to appropriately defend himself for the legislated dangers, this isn't current;y the case, as a citizen has to travel unarmed, now if a society is going to create a law were children's deaths and injuries are inevitable, well surely they should offer that society some protection for when the inevitable happens. No society and its politicians reject this idea and the only other option they have considered is breed bans, so victims have no choice but to try and persuade politicians to ban the breeds, as you don't need to be a mathematician to work out that NO PITBULLS = NO PITBULL ATTACKS - although I can honestly say I have had a few Pidiots have trouble working that logic out -Seriously! So the argument from the victims point of view is, if their are no or little attacks in society then no problem, but worldwide their is an epidemic of Pitbull Attacks ( I know as I collect Citations and news stories from around the world on attacks - thanks to google alerts) and until you child killers offer up an idea that actually moves the argument towards saving children's lives, normal people will always choose to outcast you and your child killing dogs - sorry - the truth may sting you - but it is the truth nonetheless
So sorry if you see my cause to save childrens lives as high and mighty - but your perspective is one of somebody with no experience in dog attacks, the legal and medical complications that happen afterwards - from the day of the attack till 2/12 years later I still haven't recovered, and I wont, I have been told my injuries are permanent and weaken over time - I have lost approx $200,000 and closed my business and had to sell specialist equipment, I couldnt walk for 6 months had skin infections and a deep vein thrombosis - I haven't worked for the last two years - I am sorry you cant see what serious dog attacks do, but the average citizen is pretty brainwashed, has no imagination and believes bad shit will never happen to them - well I had to tell you freaks, that suffering is unavaoidable, and if you think my fate will never be yours, you are wrong - suffering comes to every man - regardless of his attempts to avoid it - I have had many tough times in my life, I would describe my life as very tough - I believe the universe dishes out the greatest tests to the strongest people, and I have had many, so I call myself a Strong man - the one thing I cant stand is the pussy man trying to live a safe uncomplicated non confrontational life - they never suffer, therefore they never have any wisdom to offer.
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My APBT almost licked my neighbor to death.
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LOL, back for more...what a queef.
Are you using that word "Queef" because you girlfriends vaginal problem has resurfaced.
Did it make you feel like an intelligent poster when you used a word that nobody uses or cares about!
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Once again, I will dumb it down for your Pidiot brain - The attack cause permanent injuries - both physical and psychological - I had to close my business - I have spent my life savings on recovery (which is a lot), the owners had the gall to contest the council hearing (Council Won), I am still waiting 2 1/2 years later to get the legal proceedings even started. Now at first because I had plenty of money and resources I got on with living, but then I kept hearing of children worldwide and even here at home being permanently and severely injured, so I took up the cause. If you think what i describe as somehow being high & mighty, well this is fine - I can honestly say my motivation is to save children's lives - so any attack from a Pidiot is laughable, because I know they aren't interested in saving children's lives, just their right to own dogs that would lose them half a dozen friends the day they purchased it. My argument is, that a citizen should be able to appropriately defend himself for the legislated dangers, this isn't current;y the case, as a citizen has to travel unarmed, now if a society is going to create a law were children's deaths and injuries are inevitable, well surely they should offer that society some protection for when the inevitable happens. No society and its politicians reject this idea and the only other option they have considered is breed bans, so victims have no choice but to try and persuade politicians to ban the breeds, as you don't need to be a mathematician to work out that NO PITBULLS = NO PITBULL ATTACKS - although I can honestly say I have had a few Pidiots have trouble working that logic out -Seriously! So the argument from the victims point of view is, if their are no or little attacks in society then no problem, but worldwide their is an epidemic of Pitbull Attacks ( I know as I collect Citations and news stories from around the world on attacks - thanks to google alerts) and until you child killers offer up an idea that actually moves the argument towards saving children's lives, normal people will always choose to outcast you and your child killing dogs - sorry - the truth may sting you - but it is the truth nonetheless
So sorry if you see my cause to save childrens lives as high and mighty - but your perspective is one of somebody with no experience in dog attacks, the legal and medical complications that happen afterwards - from the day of the attack till 2/12 years later I still haven't recovered, and I want, I have been told my injuries are permanent and weaken over time - I have lost approx $200,000 and closed my business and had to sell specialist equipment, I couldnt walk for 6 months had skin infections and a deep vein thrombosis - I am sorry you cant see what serious dog attacks do, but the average citizen is pretty brainwashed, has no imagination and believes bad shit will never happen to them - well I had to tell you freaks, that suffering is unavaoidable, and if you think my fate will never be yours, you are wrong - suffering comes to every man - regardless of his attempts to avoid it - I have had many tough times in my life, I would describe my life as very tough - I believe the universe dishes out the greatest tests to the strongest people, and I have had many, so I call myself a Strong man - the one thing I cant stand is the pussy man trying to live a safe uncomplicated non confrontational life - they never suffer, therefore they never have any wisdom to offer.
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My APBT almost licked my neighbor to death.
At least you admit your dogs a killer - thats a start!
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Chaos, you can interpret the passionate defense of childrens lives as crying - I just call it the passionate defense of childrens lives. It is long been known that society is afraid of it's stronger members, and in an attempt to weaken them use insults and put downs - I laugh at your feeble and poorly thought out insults - HA HA - HA HA
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Chaos, you can interpret the passionate defense of childrens lives as crying - I just call it the passionate defense of childrens lives. It is long been known that society is afraid of it's stronger members, and in an attempt to weaken them use insults and put downs - I laugh at your feeble and poorly thought out insults - HA HA - HA HA
You can claim you do it for the kids if that is what it takes for you to mask your fear of puppy dogs, I don't judge. Maybe you should get therapy? Electro shock works wonders.
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You can claim you do it for the kids if that is what it takes for you to mask your fear of puppy dogs, I don't judge. Maybe you should get therapy? Electro shock works wonders.
I do not have a fear of dogs, I have a fear of Pitbulls, Rottweilers, dobermans and other large breeds, this fear is healthy and if you are not feeling the same fear, well I guess you are one of the stupid ones, and a long life will not be granted to you. Fear is normal, and if you are not feeling it around certain dogs, well you could quite likely not be all there - and that possibility wouldn't suprise me. Attacks on my masculinity are pointless, as I am still to this day too aggressive, everyone around me tells me to settle down - and I have been punished on many occasions for roughing up weak arse big mouthed men - I used to work to become less aggressive, but I now truly don't give a fuck, if people don't like it they can fuck off - I am not afraid to admit that I feel fear - but only when appropriate! Feel free to think that I feel like less of a man because I am aware of my fears - but as a man my self knowledge and awareness makes me far more dangerous than some deluded fool like you who is unaware of his own fears.
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I do not have a fear of dogs, I have a fear of Pitbulls, Rottweilers, dobermans and other large breeds, this fear is healthy and if you are not feeling the same fear, well I guess you are one of the stupid ones, and a long life will not be granted to you. Fear is normal, and if you are not feeling it around certain dogs, well you could quite likely not be all there - and that possibility wouldn't suprise me. Attacks on my masculinity are pointless, as I am still to this day too aggressive, everyone around me tells me to settle down - and I have been punished on many occasions for roughing up weak arse big mouthed men - I used to work to become less aggressive, but I now truly don't give a fuck, if people don't like it they can fuck off - I am not afraid to admit that I feel fear - but only when appropriate! Feel free to think that I feel like less of a man because I am aware of my fears - but as a man my self knowledge and awareness makes me far more dangerous than some deluded fool like you who is unaware of his own fears.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, pussy.
You can be cautious and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you're a fearful pussy you'll only sketch a dog out and it'll attack you. A pussy like you is extremely prone to getting attacked because you're a sobbing, wet vagina. The same thing goes for any animal. If they smell the stench of sobbing vaginal fear they'll attack you.
Guys like us and dogs like pitbulls can't help it if they attack pussies like you. You'll just have to keep living your miserable life until you kick the bucket and no one sheds a tear.
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I`d fight God to protect my Pitbull because he`s so mellow he`d probably try to kiss his adversary to death.
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Once again, I will dumb it down for your Pidiot brain - The attack cause permanent injuries - both physical and psychological - I had to close my business - I have spent my life savings on recovery (which is a lot), the owners had the gall to contest the council hearing (Council Won), I am still waiting 2 1/2 years later to get the legal proceedings even started. Now at first because I had plenty of money and resources I got on with living, but then I kept hearing of children worldwide and even here at home being permanently and severely injured, so I took up the cause. If you think what i describe as somehow being high & mighty, well this is fine - I can honestly say my motivation is to save children's lives - so any attack from a Pidiot is laughable, because I know they aren't interested in saving children's lives, just their right to own dogs that would lose them half a dozen friends the day they purchased it. My argument is, that a citizen should be able to appropriately defend himself for the legislated dangers, this isn't current;y the case, as a citizen has to travel unarmed, now if a society is going to create a law were children's deaths and injuries are inevitable, well surely they should offer that society some protection for when the inevitable happens. No society and its politicians reject this idea and the only other option they have considered is breed bans, so victims have no choice but to try and persuade politicians to ban the breeds, as you don't need to be a mathematician to work out that NO PITBULLS = NO PITBULL ATTACKS - although I can honestly say I have had a few Pidiots have trouble working that logic out -Seriously! So the argument from the victims point of view is, if their are no or little attacks in society then no problem, but worldwide their is an epidemic of Pitbull Attacks ( I know as I collect Citations and news stories from around the world on attacks - thanks to google alerts) and until you child killers offer up an idea that actually moves the argument towards saving children's lives, normal people will always choose to outcast you and your child killing dogs - sorry - the truth may sting you - but it is the truth nonetheless
So sorry if you see my cause to save childrens lives as high and mighty - but your perspective is one of somebody with no experience in dog attacks, the legal and medical complications that happen afterwards - from the day of the attack till 2/12 years later I still haven't recovered, and I wont, I have been told my injuries are permanent and weaken over time - I have lost approx $200,000 and closed my business and had to sell specialist equipment, I couldnt walk for 6 months had skin infections and a deep vein thrombosis - I haven't worked for the last two years - I am sorry you cant see what serious dog attacks do, but the average citizen is pretty brainwashed, has no imagination and believes bad shit will never happen to them - well I had to tell you freaks, that suffering is unavaoidable, and if you think my fate will never be yours, you are wrong - suffering comes to every man - regardless of his attempts to avoid it - I have had many tough times in my life, I would describe my life as very tough - I believe the universe dishes out the greatest tests to the strongest people, and I have had many, so I call myself a Strong man - the one thing I cant stand is the pussy man trying to live a safe uncomplicated non confrontational life - they never suffer, therefore they never have any wisdom to offer.
no disrespect dude but im not reading all that shit.
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no disrespect dude but im not reading all that shit.
You don't need to be so courteous, bro.
You can just tell E-Kul to "fuck off" and it would suffice. ;D
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You don't need to be so courteous, bro.
You can just tell E-Kul to "fuck off" and it would suffice. ;D
;D
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Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, pussy.
You can be cautious and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you're a fearful pussy you'll only sketch a dog out and it'll attack you. A pussy like you is extremely prone to getting attacked because you're a sobbing, wet vagina. The same thing goes for any animal. If they smell the stench of sobbing vaginal fear they'll attack you.
Guys like us and dogs like pitbulls can't help it if they attack pussies like you. You'll just have to keep living your miserable life until you kick the bucket and no one sheds a tear.
You are welcome to have a shot at the title anytime you like - I have never backed down from a challenge - I know I would have you unconcioous in less than a minute - and it truly saddens me that the faceless gutless tough guys on this board throw down challenges, call guys out, but remain behind their keyboards tapping away threats and insults, it truly is laughable. The fact you even think you could stand in the same cage as a pitbull makes me laugh and laugh and laugh, you are either a fool or truly think you could dominate a pitbull - ha ha - I can claim to have fought pitbulls which makes me more man than almost any man I meet - I didnt choose to fight them, but I did and I am here to tell the tale - my masculunity is well in tact I would say - Do you have any manly tales of your own - or do you just choose to be a tough guy by trying to weaken stronger males with low grade insults and putdowns, which is an obvious attempt to hide a deep fear of being dominated and knocked out in a fight - your fear of other men dominating you is obvious in the way you post unintelligent dribble and putdowns, strong men never act like that, just jevenile wanna be tough guys - real tough guys are aware of their fear and use it accordingly, pussies just pretend they dont feel fear and try and belittle and shame the stronger men in the hope they can impress the weaker grade of men they associate with!
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I`d fight God to protect my Pitbull because he`s so mellow he`d probably try to kiss his adversary to death.
Good thing their is no God - but I tell you what - I would glady kill every Pitbull to save a childs life!
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You are welcome to have a shot at the title anytime you like - I have never backed down from a challenge - I know I would have you unconcioous in less than a minute - and it truly saddens me that the faceless gutless tough guys on this board throw down challenges, call guys out, but remain behind their keyboards tapping away threats and insults, it truly is laughable. The fact you even think you could stand in the same cage as a pitbull makes me laugh and laugh and laugh, you are either a fool or truly think you could dominate a pitbull - ha ha - I can claim to have fought pitbulls which makes me more man than almost any man I meet - I didnt choose to fight them, but I did and I am here to tell the tale - my masculunity is well in tact I would say - Do you have any manly tales of your own - or do you just choose to be a tough guy by trying to weaken stronger males with low grade insults and putdowns, which is an obvious attempt to hide a deep fear of being dominated and knocked out in a fight - your fear of other men dominating you is obvious in the way you post unintelligent dribble and putdowns, strong men never act like that, just jevenile wanna be tough guys - real tough guys are aware of their fear and use it accordingly, pussies just pretend they dont feel fear and try and belittle and shame the stronger men in the hope they can impress the weaker grade of men they associate with!
Don't get so excited bubble boy, you might hurt yourself!
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Don't get so excited bubble boy, you might hurt yourself!
You dudes make me laugh when you think I am excited, I am like this all the time, fired up and ready to fight - it gives me a good belly laugh that you guys think I am upset - I am always like this from the time I wake up untill the time I go to bed - I am a man who knows who he is, what he wants and am prepared to fight for it - I will win as I have a lifetime worth of anger that fuels me in my conquest!
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You dudes make me laugh when you think I am excited, I am like this all the time, fired up and ready to fight - it gives me a good belly laugh that you guys think I am upset - I am always like this from the time I wake up untill the time I go to bed - I am a man who knows who he is, what he wants and am prepared to fight for it - I will win as I have a lifetime worth of anger that fuels me in my conquest!
Wow, you sound pretty hardcore.
Do you get up at 2am to eat a tub of cottage cheese and defrost a big bag of frozen chicken breasts for the battle that ensures later on? :o
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That's a terrible story E-Kul. Sorry to hear it. Also sorry it's turned you in to a miserable person.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, pussy.
You can be cautious and there's nothing wrong with that, but if you're a fearful pussy you'll only sketch a dog out and it'll attack you. A pussy like you is extremely prone to getting attacked because you're a sobbing, wet vagina. The same thing goes for any animal. If they smell the stench of sobbing vaginal fear they'll attack you.
Guys like us and dogs like pitbulls can't help it if they attack pussies like you. You'll just have to keep living your miserable life until you kick the bucket and no one sheds a tear.
I am not afraid of being attacked, I am afraid of not having the appropriate tools to defend myself appropriately - I have been attacked physically and every other way since I was crawling - I grew up in large family with older brothers and have fought all my life - I actually love fighting and the martial arts and love the idea of being able to defend yourself, not attack other people, defend yourself! Currently, society doesn't think it necessary to provide appropriate gear to protect yourself from the threats that it legislates for. This is a human rights violation, and just simply wrong. Humans greatest and I mean greatest strength against wild animals is his ability to weapon up, and our governments take that right away from citizens on the basis that they will keep you safe, but this is clearly not happening. Governments aren't making society safe, Military Barracks make there housing units dangerous dog free, I cant understand why our society cant.
I actually have the knowledge to defend against an attacking pitbull, I share this with everyone I meet. i dare say, because of my experience and current knowledge I would fair better than the average man against pitbulls or any other large breed.
Given an opportunity and if someone was willing to offer up their pitbull, I would willingly demonstrate (with the appropriate protective clothing) how to kill the dog when attacking, but as of yet I have had this offer on the table for a year, and as of yet No Pit bull owners has taken me up on it. I truly believe a video like this would save lives, so if you want to offer up a Pitbull to be killed for demonstration purposes, please contact me and we will organise it.
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Perfectly happy with my Boston Terrier. IMHO, Boston are the BEST terriers.
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That's a terrible story E-Kul. Sorry to hear it. Also sorry it's turned you in to a miserable person.
I am not a miserable person, I just feel miserable arguing against child killers - I know Pidiots don't believe they are child killers, but the truth is they are - it is their 90 year propaganda campaign that has led to the current shark on land we have roaming our streets today killing good children. if I told you raping and murdering were to be tolerated and no blame cast on the perpetrator (because it wasn't his fault, it was his parents fault) and that little to no penalty should be applied to them. Now consider you were the victim of rape or indirectly of murder would you feel good arguing about the topic with somebody like me, I don't think so - but the fact is, children's lives are at stake - so i soldier on - I truly will save children's lives, even if a few Pidiots have to have their denial cracked indefinitely!
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EKuhl it must suck ass living where you can't really protect yourself I give you that. I would have to move. American fuck ya! You can carry around a loaded gun around everywhere as long as you aren't a dipshit and have felonies on your record.
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We get it E-Kul. You were attacked by a couple of pitbulls and are now on a personal crusade to get them banned for others' safety. Maybe if you were attacked by gun-wielding maniacs you'd also be spouting off statistics about the dangers of gun ownership and proposing for them to be banned. Maybe if you were gored by a wild pig you'd be hanging out on forums trying to get them killed off.
You have an emotional attachment(rightly so, imo) to a particular issue and to a particular breed of dog. Unfortunately, laws do indeed get passed based based upon that emotion(most recent big one is a law passed in Florida making it a crime to fail to report a missing child after 24 hours upon conclusion of the Casey Anthony trial). Logic and reason, backed up by statistics and dog experts such as veterinarians, professional dog organizations, and dog psychologists(yea, they're out there), dictate otherwise as to what you are saying.
BTW, dogsbite.org is not a credible site.
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EKuhl it must suck ass living where you can't really protect yourself I give you that. I would have to move. American fuck ya! You can carry around a loaded gun around everywhere as long as you aren't a dipshit and have felonies on your record.
This is the problem, even if guns were legal I wouldn't get one - I have criminal record from an early age and only added to that later on when I took on the police on one too many occasions - I already get the police harrasing me, the even harrased me because I walk with a aluminum walking stick, even the police see me as a threat because I stand up to them, I dont see authority, I just see human beings, and I treat them accordingly, regardless of the consequences. The fuckers wont even let me leave the country!
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Some more pitbull goodness.
This is my mas loyal protector. Follows her around everywhere! She can't turn around without him being right next to her side. He will do anything for the family put his life on the line for us. I love the breed! Never once have one of these dogs so much as growled at a human being. You can't say that about many breeds. We had a girlscout come over to the house. He could sense she was nervous he got on his belly and crawled over to her and she was it was like love at first site she pet him for a good ten minutes. Don't be so ignorant man. They're like kids they need to be brought up the right way. You need to be selective about the breeder you get them from.
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I am not afraid of being attacked, I am afraid of not having the appropriate tools to defend myself appropriately - I have been attacked physically and every other way since I was crawling - I grew up in large family with older brothers and have fought all my life - I actually love fighting and the martial arts and love the idea of being able to defend yourself, not attack other people, defend yourself! Currently, society doesn't think it necessary to provide appropriate gear to protect yourself from the threats that it legislates for. This is a human rights violation, and just simply wrong. Humans greatest and I mean greatest strength against wild animals is his ability to weapon up, and our governments take that right away from citizens on the basis that they will keep you safe, but this is clearly not happening. Governments aren't making society safe, Military Barracks make there housing units dangerous dog free, I cant understand why our society cant.
I actually have the knowledge to defend against an attacking pitbull, I share this with everyone I meet. i dare say, because of my experience and current knowledge I would fair better than the average man against pitbulls or any other large breed.
Given an opportunity and if someone was willing to offer up their pitbull, I would willingly demonstrate (with the appropriate protective clothing) how to kill the dog when attacking, but as of yet I have had this offer on the table for a year, and as of yet No Pit bull owners has taken me up on it. I truly believe a video like this would save lives, so if you want to offer up a Pitbull to be killed for demonstration purposes, please contact me and we will organise it.
You've got a screw loose, bro. Just because you got attacked once doesn't mean that your life is under constant and dire threat from vicious pitbulls. You understand this, right? No flames or anything here... but you're going to be okay, bro. I wouldn't wish a dog attack on anyone but just because some dogs can, do and have attacked, it doesn't mean we're all in perilous danger.
The only dog which has ever viciously attacked me was a standard poodle when I was a toddler. My redneck uncle was a backyard breeder, training and breeding large breeds for nefarious reasons (to sell to drug dealers and to protect grow ops) but his dogs weren't bad around toddlers. They actually never attacked any children as far as we heard, only people that broke into grow homes. It was only his poodle that went batshit crazy. And one day it got out and virtually ripped my eye ball out of my socket. It looks like I just have bags under my eyes, especially the one... but it's from when my eye nearly got torn out from a poodle.
I never really cared much for pitbulls until a couple of years ago when I met some rescue pits. They're the sweetest dogs ever. They're amazingly loyal and very emotional. They're very, very loving creatures. It's amazing because they're the polar opposite of what the media portrays. I feel sorry that they've been exploited by humans and occasionally get raised for bad reasons like protecting grow ops.
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We get it E-Kul. You were attacked by a couple of pitbulls and are now on a personal crusade to get them banned for others' safety. Maybe if you were attacked by concluding maniacs you'd also be spouting off statistics about the dangers of gun ownership and proposing for them to be banned. Maybe if you were gored by a wild pig you'd be hanging out on forums trying to get them killed off.
You have an emotional attachment(rightly so, imo) to a particular issue and to a particular breed of dog. Unfortunately, laws do indeed get passed based based upon that emotion(most recent big one is a law passed in Florida making it a crime to fail to report a missing child after 24 hours upon conclusion of the Casey Anthony trial). Logic and reason, backed up by statistics and dog experts such as veterinarians, professional dog organizations, and dog psychologists(yea, they're out there), dictate otherwise as to what you are saying.
BTW, dogsbite.org is not a credible site.
Once again you miss the point and your examples indicate this, once again, I have been attacked by other human beings, I have been in a lot of trouble with the law, broke another man arm in a fight just three years ago and had another conviction recorded. i fight a lot, and I have the scars to prove it, my issue isn't with people related crime, as their is a system in place to deal with that, there is no support system, deterrent or compensation system in place for victims of dog attack. The worst offenders are the professionals, as they tend to be middle to upper class and don't live in the real world - it is these people that have contributed enormously to the deaths of many children and I feel sorry for them that they advocate for the inevitable murder of other peoples children. I have never ever heard one logical argument from a professional on the subject, all they deal with is dogs, not their victims, try going to an emergency ward and asking a few opinions about dog attacks there, you might get another story than the spoon fed BS you have been believing all these years.
And this is why you guys can never win, and although the truth is always the last to arrive - it will carry me on to victory - you guys are just bystanders, I'm riding the coaster!
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The love just oozes from these two. The look on their eyes they almost have human eyes. When you're in a bad mood they come by your side and do what they can to cheer you up. They act so funny all of the time it's impoosible to feel sad when they're around. Angels.
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You've got a screw loose, bro. Just because you got attacked once doesn't mean that your life is under constant and dire threat from vicious pitbulls. You understand this, right? No flames or anything here... but you're going to be okay, bro. I wouldn't wish a dog attack on anyone but just because some dogs can, do and have attacked, it doesn't mean we're all in perilous danger.
The only dog which has ever viciously attacked me was a standard poodle when I was a toddler. My redneck uncle was a backyard breeder, training and breeding large breeds for nefarious reasons (to sell to drug dealers and to protect grow ops) but his dogs weren't bad around toddlers. They actually never attacked any children as far as we heard, only people that broke into grow homes. It was only his poodle that went batshit crazy. And one day it got out and virtually ripped my eye ball out of my socket. It looks like I just have bags under my eyes, especially the one... but it's from when my eye nearly got torn out from a poodle.
I never really cared much for pitbulls until a couple of years ago when I met some rescue pits. They're the sweetest dogs ever. They're amazingly loyal and very emotional. They're very, very loving creatures. It's amazing because they're the polar opposite of what the media portrays. I feel sorry that they've been exploited by humans and occasionally get raised for bad reasons like protecting grow ops.
You are right I do have a screw loose, because I learnt the only way to defend yourself at all times is to be ready to defend yourself at all times. I like having a screw loose - the though of being like the average idiot frightens the hell out of me.
How can you say there is no threat - my suburb is littered with pitbulls, the fact you are ignorant to a threat, doesn't make a threat non existant - you are just ignorant of a threat, that is all. Many people are completely ignorant of when they are in danger. Once again, I owned a pitbull, and it wasnt the loving creature you decribe, this thing was a beast, and would rip the nut sack of a polar bear with one bite - I even have a pitbull tattoed on my back, this is why your arguments about the breed fall on deaf ears, as a younger man I moved in lots of circles, and associated with dog fighters and breeders, so there isn't anything you can tell me about the breed i dont already know - I just know more than you guys thats all!
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The love just oozes from these two. The look on their eyes they almost have human eyes. When you're in a bad mood they come by your side and do what they can to cheer you up. They act so funny all of the time it's impoosible to feel sad when they're around. Angels.
Funny that, last time I was in a good mood, two pitbulls just attacked and ripped me to pieces for no reason other than the fact I existed - funny how every one has a differnt story to tell.
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Once again you miss the point and your examples indicate this, once again, I have been attacked by other human beings, I have been in a lot of trouble with the law, broke another man arm in a fight just three years ago and had another conviction recorded. i fight a lot, and I have the scars to prove it, my issue isn't with people related crime, as their is a system in place to deal with that, there is no support system, deterrent or compensation system in place for victims. The worst offenders are the professionals, as they tend to be middle to upper class and don't live in the real world - it is these people that have contributed enormously to the deaths of many children and I feel sorry for them that they advocate for the inevitable murder of other peoples children. I have never ever heard one logical argument from a professional on the subject, all they deal with is dogs, not their victims, try going to an emergency ward and asking a few opinions about dog attacks there, you might get another story than the spoon fed BS you have been believing all these years.
And this is why you guys can never win, and although the truth is always the last to arrive - it will carry me on to victory - you guys are just bystanders, I'm riding the coaster!
Do we need to make a list of all the things that have killed or seriously injured people moreso than pitbulls? Life's dangerous man. Anything out there can get you...can't legislate everything. If we did, we'd all be in padded rooms. All these fights you had growing up could've easily resulted with you in having a serious injure in which you wouldn't be able to recover from. Consider yourself lucky on that part, and unlucky on encountering a vicious dog.
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No point in arguing with this guy he won't change his mind. That's why you don't live in places where people have maniac dogs running around.
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How can you say there is no threat - my suburb is littered with pitbulls, the fact you are ignorant to a threat, doesn't make a threat non existant - you are just ignorant of a threat, that is all. Many people are completely ignorant of when they are in danger. Once again, I owned a pitbull, and it wasnt the loving creature you decribe, this thing was a beast, and would rip the nut sack of a polar bear with one bite - I even have a pitbull tattoed on my back, this is why your arguments about the breed fall on deaf ears, as a younger man I moved in lots of circles, and associated with dog fighters and breeders, so there isn't anything you can tell me about the breed i dont already know - I just know more than you guys thats all!
I'm sorry to hear that you live in the most pitbull populated suburb in the universe then.
I suppose ignorance is bliss. I'll continue to love my pitbull and the pits of friends who've gone their entire lives without harming a soul. I guess I must live in magical happy-pitbull land but no complaints here.
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I'm sorry to hear that you live in the most pitbull populated suburb in the universe then.
I suppose ignorance is bliss. I'll continue to love my pitbull and the pits of friends who've gone their entire lives without harming a soul. I guess I must live in magical happy-pitbull land but no complaints here.
I know right. I've been around so many of them. Not one has been mean spirited. They must have evil beast pitbulls where he lives. To bad!
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Do we need to make a list of all the things that have killed or seriously injured people moreso than pitbulls? Life's dangerous man. Anything out there can get you...can't legislate everything. If we did, we'd all be in padded rooms. All these fights you had growing up could've easily resulted with you in having a serious injure in which you wouldn't be able to recover from. Consider yourself lucky on that part, and unlucky on encountering a vicious dog.
Once again you miss the point - sure other aniamals kill humans, but we dont openly let them roam in our society - the fact is, humans have strong feelings about dogs, and a dog lover will always minimise injuries and deaths caused by the animal they love, but pitbull owners are out and out offensive and actuall use childrens deaths at the hands of pitbulls as aplatform to insult and deride anybody who challenges their dogs reputation. My argument is, why do the victims have to pay all the costs and then not only have no support, but are openly attacked and insulted by people who have an obvious love for a breed, but also have a screw loose causing them to seperate themselves from the human race and openly advocate for the inevitable murder of children. Pidiots don't seem to link their beliefs with the deaths of children, and this is truly sad and indicative of how far society has degraded. I just want my money back, and the ability to carry a weapon to defend myself next time it happens.
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I feel bad that E-Kul got attacked,that truly must`ve sucked,but all pits aren`t bad.
How many more pages are needed to establish this fact?
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I'm sorry to hear that you live in the most pitbull populated suburb in the universe then.
I suppose ignorance is bliss. I'll continue to love my pitbull and the pits of friends who've gone their entire lives without harming a soul. I guess I must live in magical happy-pitbull land but no complaints here.
I dont know how many times I have to post this story - but Pidiots aren't that good with multi syllable words - but if this story isn't enough proof what a pack of Pidiots you guys are - well i truly believe there is no hope for you guys!
These dog dickheads make me sick!
Pregnant woman mauled to death by family pit bull was in campaign group arguing that the animals are safe
Victim was member of 'Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls'
Husband: 'She will be buried with killer dog'
Two-year-old pitbull terrier shot after charging at police
Husband finds Darla Napora's body drenched in blood
Victim suffered dozens of bites to her body and face
A pregnant woman who was mauled to death by one of her pet pit bull terriers belonged to group campaigning to convince people that the animals aren't dangerous, it has emerged.
Darla Napora, 32, was bitten dozens of times and found by her husband Greg covered in blood outstretched on their living room floor in Pacifica, California.
Police say the two-year-old unneutered pit bull believed to be responsible was hovering around the woman, who had major injuries to her upper body and face.
Tragic: Darla Napora was a member of a pitbull advocacy group, it has emerged
Greg Napora returned home from work find his wife Darla outstretched on their living room floor having been bitten dozens of times
It has since emerged Napora was a member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls, a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous.
'When they arrived, they found the victim laying in her own front living room; she was not breathing, unresponsive and had major trauma to her upper body,' said Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini.
'The husband stated that when he got home, at about noon, he found his wife with their pit bull hovering over her.'
Police shot the pit bull terrier, similar to the one pictured, dead as it tried to escape from the Napora's back garden
Police shot the blood covered animal dead as it tried to escape from the back garden whilst officers conducted their investigation.
'The last thing we wanted to happen was for the dog to get out and start attacking bystanders or be loose in the neighbourhood,' Bertini said.
'So as soon as the dog got out of the backyard, the decision was immediately made to put that dog down and that's why the dog was shot three times by two officers on scene.'
Mr Napora, who still believes the dogs are not dangerous, has said he will bury his wife with the dead pet.<--- This right here is some sick twisted shit!
Locals had strong reactions to Mrs Napora's death and many said they didn't know the couple had dogs as they hadn’t seen them outside.
Neighbour Tom Lujan believes pit bulls are dangerous: 'I wouldn't have one, and I wouldn't want my family around one,' he said.
The Napora's next door neighbour surprisingly said the dogs had always been well behaved.
Pacifica Police Captain Dave Bretini said that as officers tried CPR on Mrs Napora the pit bull terrier broke free and charged at them
Darla Napora was found in her home in Pacifica, California, having been mauled to death by one of her two dogs
'We shared a fence with them and if our dogs were barking at each other she'd call them off and they'd back off. They responded very well.'
For Greg Napora the tragic attack came out of the blue (fancy that, Pitbulls are dangerous - this is why telling the truth is so important - and not spreading propoganda for your own self serving interests!) as they had had the dog since it was a puppy.
Police said there were no prior problems at the household and no reason to expect the dog attack.
'Eventually we're going to find out if there's anything physically or medically wrong with the dog that may have caused this attack,' Bertini said.
The couple owned another 6-year-old pit bull who has been spayed.
The other dog was taken to the Peninsula Humane Society for examination although Police do not believe the other pit bull had anything to do with the attack.
An autopsy for the woman and a necropsy for the dog were scheduled for Friday.
It is unknown how far along Darla was with her pregnancy.
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I feel bad that E-Kul got attacked,that truly must`ve sucked,but all pits aren`t bad.
How many more pages are needed to establish this fact?
Who cares if all pits arent bad, there is enough bad ones, and enough childrens deaths to fucking rid the planet of the menace!
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I know right. I've been around so many of them. Not one has been mean spirited. They must have evil beast pitbulls where he lives. To bad!
I've never met a pit that was any more aggressive than any other dog. And I've grown up around grow ops and drug dealers my entire life. Their pits were never trained to be human-aggressive either, just not until you get near their grow room. They usually just chill in the living room or on the couch wanting people to pet them or accidentally drop some food on the floor.
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Who cares if all pits arent bad, there is enough bad ones, and enough childrens deaths to fucking rid the planet of the menace!
Man you sound pathetic. There's like 20 guys on this board with pits not one has had a single issue. Quit crying.
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I've never met a pit that was any more aggressive than any other dog. And I've grown up around grow ops and drug dealers my entire life. Their pits were never trained to be human-aggressive either, just not until you get near their grow room. They usually just chill in the living room or on the couch wanting people to pet them or accidentally drop some food on the floor.
Sorry to tell you they weren't pits then. If you meet a real pitbull, you will know - Pitbulls are scary - I know I have owned them and been around them a long time - you blokes can keep spinning your lies about Pitbulls - but I like the truth! which I earned!
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I feel bad that E-Kul got attacked,that truly must`ve sucked,but all pits aren`t bad.
How many more pages are needed to establish this fact?
"Good boy..........good boy....." he muttered to the beautiful pitbull.
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Who cares if all pits arent bad, there is enough bad ones, and enough childrens deaths to fucking rid the planet of the menace!
OK,but nobody can do a fucking thing about it..............how do you weed out bad dogs from good dogs?
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If you're a scumbag and or you can't handle a big breed of dog pitbulls aren't for you. If you have experince and you get them from a good owner and raise them correctly 99% of them time you will have no issues. It's the white trash and ghetto trash that has the problem dogs.
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Man you sound pathetic. There's like 20 guys on this board with pits not one has had a single issue. Quit crying.
MAN you sound like one of those small dicked losers who never learnt to fight so adopted some dogmans leftovers to hopefully increase your pathetic masculine image - men who cant project strength and authority by there mere presence and intellect always choose a substitute - a favourite of pathetic small minded men is a fighting dog. This isn't a SECRET, EVERYONE KNOWS INSECURE LITTLE MEN CHOOSE PITBULLS - It doesn't suprise me that a board chock full of insecure beefcakes own Pit bulls!
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Funny that, last time I was in a good mood, two pitbulls just attacked and ripped me to pieces for no reason other than the fact I existed - funny how every one has a differnt story to tell.
They probably got tired of listening to your whiny bullshit.
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lol Why are people even responding to this moron?
Anyone who knows dogs, and knows the APBT, understands that they are one of the most loyal, loving, people friendly breeds there is.
There are people out there who you can educate about the breed and a few others, such as this clown, where it's just a waste of time.
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Sorry to tell you they weren't pits then. If you meet a real pitbull, you will know - Pitbulls are scary - I know I have owned them and been around them a long time - you blokes can keep spinning your lies about Pitbulls - but I like the truth! which I earned!
Bro, they're real pits. As I mentioned my uncle was a backyard breeder. The redneck breeders on Vancouver Island are renown for breeding humongously vicious red nosed pits.
Their head, neck and shoulders are the size of a garbage can. They are most definitely pits, my demented friend.
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OK,but nobody can do a fucking thing about it..............how do you weed out bad dogs from good dogs?
This wouldn't be hard to implement
1) legislate mandatory muzzles and large penalties for non compliance (this will gretly reduce deaths and cost to society)
2) Force owners to carry a break stick in case of attack
3) provide suitable defensive weapons to citizens in case of dog attack
4) provide immediate assistance to victim when attacked
5. If it is truly the owners fault, remove their right to own dogs after an attack
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Bro, they're real pits. As I mentioned my uncle was a backyard breeder. The redneck breeders on Vancouver Island are renown for breeding humongously vicious red nosed pits.
Their head, neck and shoulders are the size of a garbage can. They are most definitely pits, my demented friend.
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MAN you sound like one of those small dicked losers who never learnt to fight so adopted some dogmans leftovers to hopefully increase your pathetic masculine image - men who cant project strength and authority by there mere presence and intellect always choose a substitute - a favourite of pathetic mall minded men is a fighting dog. This isn't a SECRET, EVERYONE KNOWS INSECURE LITTLE MEN CHOOSE PITBULLS - It doesn't suprise me that a board chock full of insecure beefcakes own Pit bulls!
You have a tattoo of one on your back.
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Are you using that word "Queef" because you girlfriends vaginal problem has resurfaced.
Did it make you feel like an intelligent poster when you used a word that nobody uses or cares about!
Haha, speaking of girlfriends can you post another pic of the fat pig you're with? I'm glad you've suffered and lost everything. Still think you could easily kick bruce lee's ass cause he's an overrated twink who couldn't fight? Funny you love MMA so much yet insult the man who created it. Don't ever talk about him or my country again you weak aussiefag piece of shit. :)
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This wouldn't be hard to implement
1) legislate mandatory muzzles and large penalties for non compliance (this will gretly reduce deaths and cost to society)
2) Force owners to carry a break stick in case of attack
3) provide suitable defensive weapons to citizens in case of dog attack
4) provide immediate assistance to victim when attacked
5. If it is truly the owners fault, remove their right to own dogs after an attack
6) The free right to slap the shit of of whiny kunts when they come near your pitbulls.
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They probably got tired of listening to your whiny bullshit.
probably!
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MAN you sound like one of those small dicked losers who never learnt to fight so adopted some dogmans leftovers to hopefully increase your pathetic masculine image - men who cant project strength and authority by there mere presence and intellect always choose a substitute - a favourite of pathetic mall minded men is a fighting dog. This isn't a SECRET, EVERYONE KNOWS INSECURE LITTLE MEN CHOOSE PITBULLS - It doesn't suprise me that a board chock full of insecure beefcakes own Pit bulls!
MELTDOWN LOL
They're my parents dogs you idiot. Ya my mom is trying to be real tough by owning a tough breed. You're a butthurt imbecile!
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You have a tattoo of one on your back.
Yes, like I said, I used to be one of you demented dickheads, but I supose we all grow up and some of you may even begin to develop altruism and a concern for your neighbours children, I know you may not believe me, but caring about somebody other than yourself may happen to some of you, not many of you but some of you will grow up. Dont worry when that happens, it will feel weird and abnormal, but you will get used to it!
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Haha, speaking of girlfriends can you post another pic of the fat pig you're with? I'm glad you've suffered and lost everything. Still think you could easily kick bruce lee's ass cause he's an overrated twink who couldn't fight? Funny you love MMA so much yet insult the man who created it. Don't ever talk about him or my country again you weak aussiefag piece of shit. :)
Epic Meltdown - The truth always causes this effect in humans in large denial of reality - I can talk you through it if you like - I love that "DONT EVER" do this and "DONT EVER" do that - HA HA this idiot thinks I care two fig leaves about his opinion. HA HA
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Yes, like I said, I used to be one of you demented dickheads, but I supose we all grow up and some of you may even begin to develop altruism and a concern for your neighbours children, I know you may not believe me, but caring about somebody other than yourself may happen to some of you, not many of you but some of you will grow up. Dont worry when that happens, it will feel weird and abnormal, but you will get used to it!
Speaking personally, I owned a pitbull because it was a puppy that literally walked in my door.
Wasn't trying to be a tough guy and I didn't show it off in the neighborhood. I've also owned rottweilers because they are a good deterrent against burglary.
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Yes, like I said, I used to be one of you demented dickheads, but I supose we all grow up and some of you may even begin to develop altruism and a concern for your neighbours children, I know you may not believe me, but caring about somebody other than yourself may happen to some of you, not many of you but some of you will grow up. Dont worry when that happens, it will feel weird and abnormal, but you will get used to it!
You're all alone on this one, bro. Maybe you should just off yourself.
BTW, our family dog is a black lab. The second dog my wife and I got was a chihuahua/daschund, so it's definitely not a masculinity thing. We got the pit because a retard purchased her and needed to get rid of her ASAP, and the only people she had lined up weren't suitable to raise a dog properly.
Perhaps you forget, but you're the one bragging about fighting on a daily basis, breaking off peoples limbs and savagely destroying any man, woman or child who crosses your path. I think you reminded us like 700 times in a single thread lol
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Yes, like I said, I used to be one of you demented dickheads, but I supose we all grow up and some of you may even begin to develop altruism and a concern for your neighbours children, I know you may not believe me, but caring about somebody other than yourself may happen to some of you, not many of you but some of you will grow up. Dont worry when that happens, it will feel weird and abnormal, but you will get used to it!
Can you pull up the stats of how many parents kill their children VS how many children are killed by pitbulls in the last decade?
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Who cares if all pits arent bad, there is enough bad ones, and enough childrens deaths to fucking rid the planet of the menace!
So ban the black race, the asian race, the white race, the indians... because I can assure you that all these races have some of the worst people walking on the planet
And why didnt you respond to my early posts ? Because you are a fuckin luniac bastard with lot of hate in your heart and no arguments at all.
Sorry to know that you are a very veryyy sick minded person, I really feel bad for you. Maybe I'll buy you a APBT to see if he puts some love in your shitty stone heart. ;D ;D
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This wouldn't be hard to implement
1) legislate mandatory muzzles and large penalties for non compliance (this will gretly reduce deaths and cost to society)
2) Force owners to carry a break stick in case of attack
3) provide suitable defensive weapons to citizens in case of dog attack
4) provide immediate assistance to victim when attacked
5. If it is truly the owners fault, remove their right to own dogs after an attack
I don't really have a problem with these rules actually. Dogs should always be on a leash. People should know how to use a breakstick especially if you're going to a dog park. Victims should be taken care of. Owners should loose their rights to own dogs. I agree with these. The breed shouldn't be made illegal though. They shouldn't be exterminated. To many good owners that are happy with their dogs.
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Speaking personally, I owned a pitbull because it was a puppy that literally walked in my door.
Wasn't trying to be a tough guy and I didn't show it off in the neighborhood. I've also owned rottweilers because they are a good deterrent against burglary.
Since when are dogs your personal security - this is what I hate - dogs aren't seen as another lifeform worthy or respect and love - it's just a commodity for humans to show off to there friends and to provide them with security - security from what! The only thing I feel insecure against is fighting packs of animals - why do you need a dangerous dog, aren't you just looking for trouble! If a burgular wants to get into you place a dumb rotti isnt going to stop him, that dog could be dead in a minute without ever even having to confront it - dogs aren't that hard to outsmart - they aren't known for their brains!
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Can you pull up the stats of how many parents kill their children VS how many children are killed by pitbulls in the last decade?
No he can't, because 90% of the attacks aren't real pedigree American Pit's... all no breed dog's doomed to our fuckin without education human race... poor little dogs :(
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MELTDOWN LOL
They're my parents dogs you idiot. Ya my mom is trying to be real tough by owning a tough breed. You're a butthurt imbecile!
Your mother is the other type of owner, a pathetic fragile woman who fears her own shadow so owns a retarded killer dog. It isnt just the mach0 types that get them, it is also the deeply fearful people! It's like people who cant drive buy volvos, they want the illusion of feeling safer than what they actually are! Hope this helps, sorry your mother is so fearful!
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- they aren't known for their brains!
What a coincidence.......neithe r are you. :)
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Since when are dogs your personal security - this is what I hate - dogs aren't seen as another lifeform worthy or respect and love - it's just a commodity for humans to show off to there friends and to provide them with security - security from what! The only thing I feel insecure against is fighting packs of animals - why do you need a dangerous dog, aren't you just looking for trouble! If a burgular wants to get into you place a dumb rotti isnt going to stop him, that dog could be dead in a minute without ever even having to confront it - dogs aren't that hard to outsmart - they aren't known for their brains!
Persona security having a Pit ??? Show me the dick head, do you think people spend all the money, all the time and dedication raising other LIFE just to show friends ??? You're more upset than I thought
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No he can't, because 90% of the attacks aren't real pedigree American Pit's... all no breed dog's doomed to our fuckin without education human race... poor little dogs :(
One there is no pedigree for Pitbulls, 90 years of Propaganda from dog clubs has deeply confused the issue making it impossible to determine. But the rule is, if it looks like a pitbull - it probably is -
Pidiots will swamp you with their lies and propaganda. The fact is my government doesn't even keep stats, as they know their would be an immediate outcry if the public knew the depth of the problem, plus it would have to fund a whole new department just to keep up. They actually have a court running full time over hear just to hear dog related incidents - the average person has no idea what they are advocating for, the average cost to the taxpayer is gigantic from dog realted deaths and injuries, but the average idiot truly has no idea what goes on in his own community - probably because they are too busy hugging on their dogs nuts at home - but I digress-
I also feel sorry for the dogs, because the Pidiots keep them in a role that no life form would find bearable - even the Pitbulls want to be extinct to get the fuck away from you idiots. Why do you think Pitbulls keep attacking, they are desperate to become extinct, even the Pitbulls don't like their Pidiot owners.
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Since when are dogs your personal security - this is what I hate - dogs aren't seen as another lifeform worthy or respect and love - it's just a commodity for humans to show off to there friends and to provide them with security - security from what! The only thing I feel insecure against is fighting packs of animals - why do you need a dangerous dog, aren't you just looking for trouble! If a burgular wants to get into you place a dumb rotti isnt going to stop him, that dog could be dead in a minute without ever even having to confront it - dogs aren't that hard to outsmart - they aren't known for their brains!
Oh c'mon man, you aren't arguing from logic anymore. I don't blame you though; I'd be pretty fucked in the head too if I went through that.
Plenty of burglars aren't going to go through the effort of 'outsmarting' the dog. A lot of burglary is opportunistic, and a deep bark from a rottweiler is oftentimes all that is need all but the most determined criminals. That is why they sell those device you hang on the door that generate a digital bark--it is why people post "Beware of Dog"...
I never looked at the dog as strictly a commodity. I genuinely cared for it. Because a dog has utility doesn't mean the owner doesn't care for it.
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- they aren't known for their brains!
What a coincidence.......neithe r are you. :)
How would you know what I am known for? Do I know you?
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Epic Meltdown - The truth always causes this effect in humans in large denial of reality - I can talk you through it if you like - I love that "DONT EVER" do this and "DONT EVER" do that - HA HA this idiot thinks I care two fig leaves about his opinion. HA HA
No meltdown...did you see the smiley? Can you post that pic of your fat disgusting pig of a wife of yours? I wish I could have been there to hear you scream when you were attacked. :-*
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Oh c'mon man, you aren't arguing from logic anymore. I don't blame you though; I'd be pretty fucked in the head too if I went through that.
Plenty of burglars aren't going to go through the effort of 'outsmarting' the dog. A lot of burglary is opportunistic, and a deep bark from a rottweiler is oftentimes all that is need all but the most determined criminals. That is why they sell those device you hang on the door that generate a digital bark--it is why people post "Beware of Dog"...
I never looked at the dog as strictly a commodity. I genuinely cared for it. Because a dog has utility doesn't mean the owner doesn't care for it.
I believe my argument is still logical - the majority of dog owners I know completely neglect their dogs, my sister works 80 hours a week, is never home, same with her husband, and her dogs are completely under socialised, neurotic and desperate for some love and attention - now my sister thinks she is a wonderful owner, but she is not - and she is like the majority of owners I have met - there dogs bark all night and piss everone else of and they do nothing, their dogs attack other dogs and humans and they do nothing. The dog has become just another fashion accesory of the western man and woman. it is truly tragic for dogs and even more so for humans - it is evidence of the deep lack of respect and reagrd modern humans hold towards other life forms.
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No meltdown...did you see the smiley? Can you post that pic of your fat disgusting pig of a wife of yours? I wish I could have been there to hear you scream when you were attacked. :-*
I screamed the same way your mother did while being gang raped by a group of well hung african american men 9 months before your Birth!
You weren't there to hear it, but it was pretty full on scream! If you catch your mum in the right mood, she may just do a re-enactment for you!
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What you fuckin sick ? Pit's does not have pedigree ???? You fuckin IDIOTA !!!!
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THEM ????????????
I could post the pedigree of my own pet but I'm on my GF's but with you want, just to shut the fuck you I'll post it
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS THEM ????????????
I could post the pedigree of my own pet but I'm on my GF's but with you want, just to shut the fuck you I'll post it
Its a piece of paper you idiot with a bunch of BS printed on it - I mean what do you want someone who knows everything there is to know about pitbulls to say - It's a piece of paper - here are some facts for your tiny pidiot brain.
Pit bull owners ::
Studies show that pit bull owners employ strategies to disguise the true nature of the breed by engaging in distortions, denial, overcompensation and projecting blame after biting incidents.
Not normal dog owners
To understand the experience of owning a negatively perceived dog, Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy did a case study on pit bull owners that was published in 2000. Researchers found that with "outlaw" breeds, such as pit bulls, the human-dog relationship is sociologically more complex than previously known. Owners of pit bulls, they discovered, directly feel the stigma targeted at their breed and resort to various tactics to mitigate it. These strategies included:
"passing their dogs as breeds other than pit bulls, denying that their behavior is biologically determined, debunking adverse media coverage, using humor, emphasizing counter-stereotypical behavior, avoiding stereotypical equipment or accessories, taking preventive measures, or becoming breed ambassadors."1
The study is sympathetic to pit bull owners and makes unsourced claims, but does show the basis of pro-pit bull propaganda. Strategies identified by the researchers are the same strategies employed by pro-pit bull groups to stop a municipality from enacting a pit bull law. For instance, pit bull advocates will claim that a pit bull cannot be identified, that there is a "media conspiracy" against pit bulls and that pit bulls are in fact "wiggle butts" who only want to "lick you to death."
Related articles:
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Couple Blames Cougar for Serious Attack Inflicted by Their Own Pit Bull
Disguise breed name
As identified in the Tufts study, pit bull owners frequently pass their dogs off as other breeds to diminish a perceived stigma. They also lie about their dog's breed to confuse the public about the pit bull breed and to evade breed-specific laws. For instance, a pit bull owner might mislabel his dog as a bulldog-mix, boxer-mix or lab-mix after a pit bull law goes into effect. Animal groups, however, are the guiltiest of creating confusion about the pit bull breed and this started in 1935.
In 1935, the American Kennel Club (AKC) agreed to register pit bull dogs, but only under the name Staffordshire terrier. This was done to distance the breed from its continued use in dogfighting. Thus, the pit bull and the Staffordshire terrier was one in the same, yet held two different names.2
In 1972, the AKC renamed the breed to the American Staffordshire terrier. Though the American Staffordshire terrier is by definition a pit bull, many owners claim they are different breeds and shelters adopt out pit bulls under the Staffordshire name to fool unsuspecting members of the public.3
In 1996, the San Francisco Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals renamed pit bulls to "St. Francis Terriers." The hope was to make the breed more adoptable. After much screening, about 60 pit bulls were placed. The program was suspended after several of the re-dubbed dogs killed cats.4
In 2004, while serving as the director of New York City Animal Care and Control, Ed Boks tried to rename pit bulls to "New Yorkies" also in hopes of making the breed more adoptable. Boks' idea failed, as did his tenure in New York City, which only lasted from 2003-2005.5
Meanwhile, dogfighters historically and presently refer to pit bulls as "bulldogs." The American bulldog, which is unrecognized by the AKC, was only recognized by the United Kennel Club (UKC) in 1999.6 Furthermore, the breed was called the "American pit bulldog" up until the 1970s.7
The many names of the pit bull over the course of history is why breed-specific legislation defines the pit bull as a "class of dogs" that includes the following breeds and their mixes: American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier and American bulldog.8 Despite pit bull owners, animal groups and dogfighters attempts to obscure the name of the pit bull breed, well-written breed-specific laws always encapsulate the pit bull's many names.
Related articles:
2011 Dog Bite Fatality: 'Loving Dog' Kills Visiting Baby in Chesterfield County
2010 Dog Bite Fatality: 56-Year Old Man Killed by Daughter's Six Pit Bulls
"Don't blame the dog" logic
Pit bull owners frequently blame the "environment" after a pit bull seriously injures a person. A participant in the Tufts study illustrates this clearly, "If you get some kid that has been beaten all his life, he's going to go out and be aggressive towards people."9 The intention is to assert that an aggressive pit bull must have been beaten or taught to attack by their owners instead of admitting to the genetic traits that define the breed (See: Why do people say that pit bulls "don't let go?)
Pit bull owners frequently direct blame onto victims after an attack too. While "blaming the victim" is a universal phenomenon, pit bull owners do so offensively. The instance involving Wendy Blevins, who DogsBite.org awarded 2008 Victims Advocate of the Year, is an excellent example. After Tina Agerson's pit bull casually walked up to Wendy and her daughter and latched onto the child's head, Wendy immediately straddled the attacking dog and pulled it off Charlotte.
As blood flew everywhere, Agerson stood by and watched. She later said that Wendy "blocked" her from getting her dog. In a subsequent blog post about the incident, a pit bull advocate left a comment asking why Wendy did not have insurance to cover her child's medical bills, which surpassed $110,000 in 30 days. First, Wendy was insured; second, the commenter blamed the victim for being unable to pay these bills after "someone else's dog" nearly killed her child.
In a separate incident, a victim with a history of seizures was blamed for the attack that led to her death. Kelli Chapman was sleeping in her bed when her two pet pit bulls killed her. It was quickly assumed that because she suffered from seizures, she must have had one and the pit bulls "naturally" reacted to it by killing her. Yet, we will never know if she suffered a seizure, and if she did, the order of events: Did a seizure cause the attack or did the attack cause a seizure?10
In nearly all instances of serious and fatal pit bull attacks, pit bull owners, and in some cases authorities, blame the attack on the environment or the actions of the victim. There is a refusal on their part to admit that a pit bull will attack unprovoked. Some of the most grievous examples include a child holding a stuffed animal and a child bumping into a pit bull. "Don't Blame the Dog" believers say such actions sufficiently explain why the pit bull severely injured or killed the child.
Related articles:
Dog Bite Victim Attorney Responds to 'Blame the Victim' Comment
Comment: Pit Bull Owners Consistently Blame Victims
Breed ambassadors
According to the Tufts study, the most public way in which pit bull owners managed breed stigma was to become a fierce advocate for the breed. These owners seek to "educate" the public -- often through their own well-behaved pets -- by discounting stereotypes and promoting the finer qualities of the breed. For instance, to help deflect the fear that pit bulls incite about children, one respondent kept a photo handy that showed three children rubbing her pit bull's tummy.11
Examples of breed ambassador imagery is easily found on the Internet, such as the YouTube video, "Pit Bull Viciously Attacks Child," which depicts happy babies lying near pit bulls. Some breed ambassadors, however, take activism of the "Pit Bull Cause" to reckless levels. Despite warnings from pit bull experts to "avoid dog parks at all costs,"12 such persons purposely visit dog parks to show other dog owners that pit bulls are safe, reliable dogs that are merely "misunderstood."
Breed ambassadors are also the most common pit bull advocates to appear at public hearings determining whether or not a city should adopt a pit bull law. A common tactic is to present their dog as a "therapy" dog (which is not a "service" dog) that cuddles with senior citizens in rest homes. In a famous example of a trained "therapy" pit bull reverting back to genetic pit bull animal-aggression, Anna Klafter's pit bull, Nettie, unleashed an attack upon a mounted police horse.
Sergeant David Herrera was bucked off in the 2003 incident and suffered neck and back injuries. Klafter suffered a fractured skull after the horse kicked her in the face. At the time, Klafter had been trying to gain control of her "extensively trained" animal assisted therapy dog. Klafter had adopted the dog from the San Francisco SPCA, where she also volunteered as a dog trainer.13 The horse, AAA Andy, was bitten in the legs and belly and never worked another day of service duty.14
Related articles:
2010 Dog Bite Fatality: 2-Year Old San Bernardino Boy Killed by Family Pit Bull
Pit Bull Drags Adult Owner into Oncoming Train, Killing Her
The lion tamer complex
A behavioral trait not addressed in the Tufts study has been dubbed the "Lion Tamer Complex." Many pit bull owners believe they are superior dog owners and through this superiority can control their "game bred" pit bull by teaching discipline and love. While not all pit bulls are inherently vicious, their genetic history cannot be "loved" out of them either. As demonstrated by numerous press reports of pit bulls attacking their owners, this complex has serious and deadly ramifications.
A recent example of the Lion Tamer Complex involves four pit bulls that were declared "vicious" in a Placer County court -- effectively ordering the destruction of the dogs -- after seriously injuring teenager JoJo Kerschner. The pit bull owner, Daniel Coverston, appealed the ruling and requested that pit bull expert Tia Torres examine the dogs to determine which, if any, could be rehabilitated. During the examination by Torres, one of the pit bulls attacked and bit her.
"Torres said she then tried to loop Maui with her leash but 'he jumped up and bit my right hand.'
Torres said the dog then became frantic and it looked like he was going to bite another person. He continued to snap at Torres as they put him back in the kennel.
The other two dogs, Sherman and Ronin, 'had become extremely aggressive acting, hitting the kennel gates and barking hysterically,' Torres said."15
The second and final judge ordered three of the pit bulls destroyed, but that based on Torres' assessment, one was salvageable enough to be placed at her rescue on a trial basis.16 What's important to point out is that the so-called salvageable pit bull was legally declared "vicious" after attacking Kerschner. As opposed to the claim that human-aggressive pit bulls were "culled," Lion Tamers such at Torres target human-aggressive pit bulls to prove they can be "tamed."17
What is further disturbing is that pit bull rescue groups now covet dogs like Coverston's as they have found them to be effective promotional tools. For instance, James Harrison's pit bull, Patrone, who was "cured" of aggression in 20 days and Snaps from Seattle, who was transferred to a lifetime "sanctuary."18 Attempts to save vicious pit bulls in Louisiana and New Jersey19 resulted in animal control workers being attacked while its owner fought destruction orders.
Related articles:
2011 Dog Bite Fatality: Philadelphia Woman Killed by Husband's Pit Bulls
2011 Dog Bite Fatality: Spotsylvania County Man Killed by Pet Pit Bull
Criminals choose pit bulls
In 2006, the Journal of Interpersonal Violence published a study that focused on Ohio dog owners.20 The results showed that criminals are more likely to own vicious dogs. For the purposes of the study, researchers used agreed definitions of "vicious dogs" found within local ordinances. All ordinances included pit bulls because Ohio state law automatically declares pit bulls "vicious." The report is best summarized by one of its authors, Jaclyn Barnes:
"Owners of vicious dogs who have been cited for failing to register a dog (or) failing to keep a dog confined on the premises ... are more than nine times more likely to have been convicted for a crime involving children, three times more likely to have been convicted of domestic violence ... and nearly eight times more likely to be charged with drug (crimes) than owners of low-risk licensed dogs."21
There is no denying that dangerous people are attracted to dangerous dogs. These same people also have a higher likelihood of being irresponsible owners. Pit bulls are the dog of choice for criminals and are often used in drug and gang-related activities. Police officers are frequently forced to shoot dangerous pit bulls22 when serving search warrants as well. The combination of criminals and pit bulls exponentially increases the danger these dogs pose to communities
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Wow, man. You're absolutely obsessed, aren't you?
That dog attack really did a number.
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I screamed the same way your mother did while being gang raped by a group of well hung african american men 9 months before your conception!
You weren't there to hear it, but it was pretty full on scream! If you catch your mum in the right mood, she may just do a re-enactment for you!
::) Brilliant comeback...
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BOO!!! ;D
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I wish I could have been there to hear you scream when you were attacked. :-*
I screamed the same way your mother did while being gang raped by a group of well hung african american men 9 months before your birth!
You weren't there to hear it, but it was a pretty full on scream! If you catch your mum in the right mood, she may just do a re-enactment for you!
::) Brilliant comeback...
Your welcome, you are welcome to use this material in your trolling travels.
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Wow, man. You're absolutely obsessed, aren't you?
That dog attack really did a number.
I have been researching Pitbulls ever since the attack - most people never face life threating situations - I can tell you - it changes you - Big time!
I evan ran a Breed Ban Youtube Video for some time, I had to pull it, the Pidiots are way to offensive, the victims, including many children dont need to be exposed to that!
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For you retarded racist fuckin mind, yes it is a piece of paper... for a normal human being is a certified pedigree for AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS you dumb... you just keep saying the same untruth things... you will not convince anyone nothing else... just that you are a sick minded individual, full of non truth arguments, and a very very sick person....
If you just dislike the breed get the fuck out and stop crying like a baby. Open your eyes.... NOBODY CARES
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I have been researching Pitbulls ever since the attack - most people never face life threating situations - I can tell you - it changes you - Big time!
Do you ever think your experience might have caused just the slightest bit of bias?
I'm not saying I'd be pleased and would invite a pitbull attack on myself, because I know how powerful the dogs are. But they get vilified because of this and so many bullshit "statistics" get thrown around. I never cared for pits up until a few years ago but I've lived around them my entire life without any problems. Even the ones specifically bred to shred the ballsack off of anyone who fucks with their master or his grow op.
How is it possible that I've never seen any pit problems when there are fucktons where I live? There are even quite a large amount bred specifically to be human aggressive. But there are still no reports of attacks outside of grow op raids. No deaths, no women or children are ever bitten, nothing. British Columbia and specifically Vancouver Island is littered with pits and grow ops and no one ever bats a lash.
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For you retarded racist fuckin mind, yes it is a piece of paper... for a normal human being is a certified pedigree for AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS you dumb... you just keep saying the same untruth things... you will not convince anyone nothing else... just that you are a sick minded individual, full of non truth arguments, and a very very sick person....
If you just dislike the breed get the fuck out and stop crying like a baby. Open your eyes.... NOBODY CARES
Look, you have beliefs, I have convictions, there is a difference. Conviction comes from a long evidence gathering period - you are still at the beginning of that investigation. Your ignorance is excused by the wiser amongst us, but to hold on to your deadly lies even after being taught otherwise is an indication of either an incredibly low IQ or just a need for attention that the major figures in your life didn't give to you. Either way, the commonly held truth amongst normal citizens is that people who choose marginalised animals as a pet have incredible psychological issues - hence the dog - you aren't fooling anyone - I know why you chose that dog, and the reasons are embarrassing for you.
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Do you ever think your experience might have caused just the slightest bit of bias?
I'm not saying I'd be pleased and would invite a pitbull attack on myself, because I know how powerful the dogs are. But they get vilified because of this and so many bullshit "statistics" get thrown around. I never cared for pits up until a few years ago but I've lived around them my entire life without any problems. Even the ones specifically bred to shred the ballsack off of anyone who fucks with their master or his grow op.
How is it possible that I've never seen any pit problems when there are fucktons where I live? There are even quite a large amount bred specifically to be human aggressive. But there are still no reports of attacks outside of grow op raids. No deaths, no women or children are ever bitten, nothing. British Columbia and specifically Vancouver Island is littered with pits and grow ops and no one ever bats a lash.
I consider my experience well rounded, I owned a pitbull when younger, used to attend staffordhire bull terrier club regularly, was so into the dog had a pitbull tattooed on my back. Have you considered that you don't have enough information and experience to make a valid observation of what someone else is doing. If anything, my experience makes me sympathetic, but only for the Pitbull, Philosophically, the Pitbull would be better of extinct, as it has been misused and maltreated by humans, and this will never change the whole time Pidiots exist. So best thing for everyone involved including society itself, is to hasten the inevitable, the extinction of the Pitbull!
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How is it possible that I've never seen any pit problems when there are fucktons where I live?
It's because you don't pay attention, you aren't interested in dog attack victims so you don't look for evidence of it - it is a normal bias every human being has, they lean to what matters most to them - so pitbull lovers will look for evidence to support what a great dog they are, and well victims, well they don't have to look far for supporting evidence, I have over 1000 pages of serous putbill attack citations and news reports collected in only one year, that's a lot of documentation for a gentle loving breed. And this is what upsets Pidiots so much, there are so many victims, and even the darkest Pidiot soul is aware of the carnage his favourite breed is causing. But fools always cling to foolishness, even after the truth has been proven repeatedly decade after decade. This is the curse of the wiser amongst us, to tolerate the fools, trolls and just the average uninformed idiot.
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Yeah ok more bla bla bla... I have more than arguments I have experience with the breed... I have all that I need to conclude that Pits are one of the most if not THE more amazing breed in the world.
I did not choose it for protection because that would be non sense. I did not choose to look bad ass, if I had... I would cut his ears because that is what give him the bad boy look (that I personally think its ridiculous), I choose it because he is the only thing on earth that loves me beyond himself, he's the onlyone that doesn't get hurt if i scream with him, he's the only one who will walk side by side with you to hell, if needed.
You know, you should read your profile more times "The greatest wisdom is seeing through appearances"...
I crushed you in every argument and you keep trying to say something that nobody cares here, where're very happy with our dogs and its a shame that you have that much hate in your heart.
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This E-Kulo is still here spreading his anti-pitbull propaganda and bullshit lies ???
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Yeah ok more bla bla bla... I have more than arguments I have experience with the breed... I have all that I need to conclude that Pits are one of the most if not THE more amazing breed in the world.
I did not choose it for protection because that would be non sense. I did not choose to look bad ass, if I had... I would cut his ears because that is what give him the bad boy look (that I personally think its ridiculous), I choose it because he is the only thing on earth that loves me beyond himself, he's the onlyone that doesn't get hurt if i scream with him, he's the only one who will walk side by side with you to hell, if needed.
You know, you should read your profile more times "The greatest wisdom is seeing through appearances"...
I crushed you in every argument and you keep trying to say something that nobody cares here, where're very happy with our dogs and its a shame that you have that much hate in your heart.
Because you don't read others posts and just reverberate the some fluff everytime, I will repeat for the tenth time in this thread. As a younger man, i associated with criminals and dog fighters and breeders, even owned a pittie, was a member of Staffy club, and even have a pitbull tattooed on my back. The Pitbull I owned I would have never let near a child, anyway, it was a biter and had to be put down, and I am glad, that dog was going to kill someone no two ways about it, was bad from the womb. So unlike you, I have owned pitbulls, fought them, been on the side of the victim, the medical and legal profession and it's responsibilities in dog attacks. So I consider myself more qualified than anyone else I have ever met, I know you wont read this post as it is simply me rehashing things i have said in earlier posts. But like their dogs Pidiots aren't too bright, and don't understand an argument involves listening too and responding too what the other person has said, not just trying to stuff your propaganda and BS down other peoples throats. I believe if you were cabable of reading this whole thread and take it seriously you may actually learn something, but you cant fill a cup that is full, and I doubt you even made it this far into my post. I look forward to your retarded unintelligent propaganda and lies as a non response to this post!
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Because you don't read others posts and just reverberate the some fluff everytime, I will repeat for the tenth time in this thread. As a younger man, i associated with criminals and dog fighters and breeders, even owned a pittie, was a member of Staffy club, and even have a pitbull tattooed on my back. The Pitbull I owned I would have never let near a child, anyway, it was a biter and had to be put down, and I am glad, that dog was going to kill someone no two ways about it, was bad from the womb. So unlike you, I have owned pitbulls, fought them, been on the side of the victim, the medical and legal profession and it's responsibilities in dog attacks. So I consider myself more qualified than anyone else I have ever met, I know you wont read this post as it is simply me rehashing things i have said in earlier posts. But like their dogs Pidiots aren't too bright, and don't understand an argument involves listening too and responding too what the other person has said, not just trying to stuff your propaganda and BS down other peoples throats. I believe if you were cabable of reading this whole thread and take it seriously you may actually learn something, but you cant fill a cup that is full, and I doubt you even made it this far into my post. I look forward to your retarded unintelligent propaganda and lies as a non response to this post!
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I crushed you in every argument and you keep trying to say something that nobody cares here, where're very happy with our dogs and its a shame that you have that much hate in your heart.
it's a shame you prefer your right to own a marginalised dog over the right to children lives - but as i have said before, and studies have borne this out, that Pitifull Owners are not normal people - I would happily spend time with Murderers, rapists and pedos before a Pit Bull owner - True Story - that shows you were I hold Pit Bulk Owners in the decent human being category - pretty sad that you place lower Than pedos - but at least most pedos dont kill the kids, you and your dogs have no mercy and seem to get off on the inevitable killing of children - it truly sickens me to the core - but on behalf of those now dead children who you couldn't give a fuck about, I will fight, and their spirits give me way more strength than you would ever find in your syringe.
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it's a shame you prefer your right to own a marginalised dog over the right to children lives - but as i have said before, and studies have borne this out, that Pitifull Owners are not normal people - I would happily spend time with Murderers, rapists and pedos before a Pit Bull owner - True Story - that shows you were I hold Pit Bulk Owners in the decent human being category - pretty sad that you place lower Than pedos - but at least most pedos dont kill the kids, you and your dogs have no mercy and seem to get off and the inevitable killing of children - it truly sickens me to the core - but on behalf of those now dead children who you couldn't give a fuck about, I will fight, and their spirits give me way more strength than you would ever find in your syringe.
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Thanks for proving my point - I am used to the most child like arguments from pidiots - It is difficult for intelligent people to argue with people with low iq's. Unfortunately the only person who knows that their is an idiot amongst them is the intelligent one - to intelligent people the problem will be obvious, but to the idiot who doesn't know he is one will continuously offer up his idiot talk, only because he doesn't know any better, and nobody guided them when younger. So flame on - I will still be here when you have gathered some knowledge and want to discuss the issue - I have always dealt with peoples arguments and stayed on topic, I am only sorry the average pidiot only has a short script of well worn cliches and then just reverts to insults and slander well after having dropped their pathetic false statements. See, truth can argue indefinitely, Liars eventually give up.
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This E-Kulo is still here spreading his anti-pitbull propaganda and bullshit lies ???
well, word on the street is you are still doing g4p to support your addictions - haven't I talked too you about your problems young man, please take my advice - I wont repeat it here as I know you are sensitive about your current condition - but chaos - g4p isn't the way - your poor arsehole needs a break - please for your arseholes sake, give it away chaos before you suffer another prolapsed anus like you did back in your gay porn days. Please Please listen Chaos, I truly don't want to see you slip down that slippery slope again! There is still hope for you and your loose anus chaos, truly there is - maybe I can help you find a good proctologist - a really good one this time, not that digtal rapist you kept going to last time - I mean it,, a really good proctologist this time! I am there for you chaos, you and your anus can do it brother!
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*sniff*
*sniff*
Smells like bullshit in this thread.
Oh, hey "E-notKul. :)
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Chaos is very sensitive about this topic :-*
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*sniff*
*sniff*
Smells like bullshit in this thread.
Oh, hey "E-notKul. :)
Are you sure that isn't the odour coming from your bf's arse - I'm pretty sure Internet forums are odorless - must be your bf's arsehole - anyway chaos give the gp4 away please, for your anus sake, remember the pain you went through with the prolapsed anus and the hemorrhoids - please chaos - I accept you are a massive homo, but do you really need to continue with the g4p, it's embarrasing to see oiled up macho men selling their anus at the risk of prolapse again. Please don't force you friends and family to intervene again - please chaos. there is help out there for gay prostitutes, maybe you could go on one of those talkback shows, get your story out there brother!
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Chaos is very sensitive about this topic :-*
Not as sensitive as you are about your height. :D
Kinda wonder what kind of memories E-kul has to think up such vivid gay scenarios.....he's talking about things that would make "1" blush. :-X
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Not as sensitive as you are about your height. :D
Kinda wonder what kind of memories E-kul has to think up such vivid gay scenarios.....he's talking about things that would make "1" blush. :-X
ha, I am not sensitive about my height. More annoying when someone comments on a bbers height! Its a bodybuilding show, not a height contest.
Anyway, I would take a german shepherd over a pitbull. Love german shepherds. Good dogs.
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ha, I am not sensitive about my height. More annoying when someone comments on a bbers height! Its a bodybuilding show, not a height contest.
Anyway, I would take a german shepherd over a pitbull. Love german shepherds. Good dogs.
OMG, dude have you even seen the bite statistics from GS? They should just kill all those dogs, their owners are scum.
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OMG, dude have you even seen the bite statistics from GS? They should just kill all those dogs, their owners are scum.
What? German Shepherds? They seem like good, loyal dogs!
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Pit bull number one
http://www.lawyerfordogbite.com/dangerous-dogs/german-shepherd-fatal-attack-and-bite-statistics.html
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What? German Shepherds? They seem like good, loyal dogs!
Oh geezus man, you must be sick in the head to get one of those!!! WTF, "German" shepards.....pfft, what are you, a Nazi ???
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How how Golden or Labradore Retrievers?
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How how Golden or Labradore Retrievers?
I dunno, we bred show Goldens when I was a kid, saw them try to bite many strangers and our black lab pinned a friend of my parents on the stove when my dad left the room.
But the electric company guy walked into my back yard and changed out my meter the other day and my vicious, out of control pitbulls layed there like lumps of shti!!!!!!! >:(
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I dunno, we bred show Goldens when I was a kid, saw them try to bite many strangers and our black lab pinned a friend of my parents on the stove when my dad left the room.
But the electric company guy walked into my back yard and changed out my meter the other day and my vicious, out of control pitbulls layed there like lumps of shti!!!!!!! >:(
Dude, come on, overall, Labs and Goldens are like the most peaceful dogs. You cant take one incident and say they are more vicious than pitbulls. I am not saying pits are the most dangerous, but there is no way in hell labs or goldens are more dangerous than pits.
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You also have the right to think for yourself, and not steal other peoples thoughts in jpeg form to speak for you.
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Not as sensitive as you are about your height. :D
Kinda wonder what kind of memories E-kul has to think up such vivid gay scenarios.....he's talking about things that would make "1" blush. :-X
I am just the messenger, I have known chaos for a while, and from his stories he has some pretty twisted sick shit going on in his life!
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Dude, come on, overall, Labs and Goldens are like the most peaceful dogs. You cant take one incident and say they are more vicious than pitbulls. I am not saying pits are the most dangerous, but there is no way in hell labs or goldens are more dangerous than pits.
german shepards are a thousand times worse than pittys , same goes for dalmatians , its all stigma and media hysteria
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german shepards are a thousand times worse than pittys , same goes for dalmatians , its all stigma and media hysteria
You conveniently failed to compare labs/goldens to pits.
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Pit bull number one
http://www.lawyerfordogbite.com/dangerous-dogs/german-shepherd-fatal-attack-and-bite-statistics.html
Do you realize how many breeds are lumped into "pitbulls"? Therre are probably a dozens breeds that get thrown together when talking about pitbulls. And pulling stats from a dog bite lawyers site? LMFAO, c'mon, you're supposed to be smarter than that.
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Do you realize how many breeds are lumped into "pitbulls"? Therre are probably a dozens breeds that get thrown together when talking about pitbulls.
And who the fuck caused that confusuion - the Pitbull Breeders dog clubs, there 90 year propoganda campaign has deliberately confused the issue so as to keep the land sharks in our communities - those sick fuckers have a lot of blood on there hands.
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And who the fuck caused that confusuion - the Pitbull Breeders dog clubs, there 90 year propoganda campaign has deliberately confused the issue so as to keep the land sharks in our communities - those sick fuckers have a lot of blood on there hands.
If anything, they should use the AMStaf as the breed standard, as it is recognized by the AKC
due to backyard breeders who indiscrimately breed pups, you have the Blockhead look, the almost hound look, the lean "fighter" look, etc.
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And who the fuck caused that confusuion - the Pitbull Breeders dog clubs, there 90 year propoganda campaign has deliberately confused the issue so as to keep the land sharks in our communities - those sick fuckers have a lot of blood on there hands.
Can you post pics of your scars again for a laugh?
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Do you realize how many breeds are lumped into "pitbulls"? Therre are probably a dozens breeds that get thrown together when talking about pitbulls. And pulling stats from a dog bite lawyers site? LMFAO, c'mon, you're supposed to be smarter than that.
chaos are trying to say that ambulance chasers are not the most honest people in the world ?
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Bad Dog?
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/irishstaffordshirebullterrier.htm (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/irishstaffordshirebullterrier.htm)
http://www.greatdogsite.com/photos/list/Irish_Staffordshire_Bull_Terrier/ (http://www.greatdogsite.com/photos/list/Irish_Staffordshire_Bull_Terrier/)
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"I used to breed dogs"
"Oh yeah, any unusual breeding's?"
"No, not really....... mostly DOGGY STYLE"
:D :D :D
Sorry for the comic relief.... carry on.
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Because you don't read others posts and just reverberate the some fluff everytime, I will repeat for the tenth time in this thread. As a younger man, i associated with criminals and dog fighters and breeders, even owned a pittie, was a member of Staffy club, and even have a pitbull tattooed on my back. The Pitbull I owned I would have never let near a child, anyway, it was a biter and had to be put down, and I am glad, that dog was going to kill someone no two ways about it, was bad from the womb. So unlike you, I have owned pitbulls, fought them, been on the side of the victim, the medical and legal profession and it's responsibilities in dog attacks. So I consider myself more qualified than anyone else I have ever met, I know you wont read this post as it is simply me rehashing things i have said in earlier posts. But like their dogs Pidiots aren't too bright, and don't understand an argument involves listening too and responding too what the other person has said, not just trying to stuff your propaganda and BS down other peoples throats. I believe if you were cabable of reading this whole thread and take it seriously you may actually learn something, but you cant fill a cup that is full, and I doubt you even made it this far into my post. I look forward to your retarded unintelligent propaganda and lies as a non response to this post!
I waist my time reading all your bullshit post ok ? All same bullshit
And with this post above you just showed yourself as a fuckin luniatic. You was associated with criminals and dog fighters and breeders... you are the responsible for the bad rep of all the bull's in the world. People like you very very sick minded people destroys the image of a good loyal dog. You don't deserve this tattoo on your back... At the start of this discussion I was trying to change your mind. I have presented many points that went against your lies successfully. But now I see... you have a completely fuck mind and you don't deserve the type of live that these dogs are able to give. Go fuck yourself and die alone...
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"When they came for the pit bulls,
I remained silent;
Surely these dogs deserved death!
When they banned the rottweilers,
I remained silent;
Who needs these dogs?
When they came for the guardian breeds,
I did not speak out;
My dog was not one of these.
When they came for the large dogs,
I remained silent;
My dog was small.
When they came for all dogs,
there was no one left to fight with me. "
DIE ALONE BITCH
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I waist my time reading all your bullshit post ok ? All same bullshit
And with this post above you just showed yourself as a fuckin luniatic. You was associated with criminals and dog fighters and breeders... you are the responsible for the bad rep of all the bull's in the world. People like you very very sick minded people destroys the image of a good loyal dog. You don't deserve this tattoo on your back... At the start of this discussion I was trying to change your mind. I have presented many points that went against your lies successfully. But now I see... you have a completely fuck mind and you don't deserve the type of live that these dogs are able to give. Go fuck yourself and die alone...
LoL I don't agree with banning anything, but the guy was obviously seriously traumatized and according to him nearly died. That's the viewpoint he's coming from.
You guys are fuccin dicks. ;D
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LoL I don't agree with banning anything, but the guy was obviously seriously traumatized and according to him nearly died. That's the viewpoint he's coming from.
You guys are fuccin dicks. ;D
So what man ? I already told him that I was almost got killed in Spain by two black guys... so I should fight to ban black people from earth???? thats totally non sense, that's fuckin racism!!! I wasn't able to defend myself because the two of them was with a .45 on my head saying they were going to blow my fuckin head. Because of this particular case I should start to hate black people ? Fuck this man, everybody have bad experiences in live and should learn from it, but this guy was already a sick guy.
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chaos are trying to say that ambulance chasers are not the most honest people in the world ?
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OMG, dude have you even seen the bite statistics from GS? They should just kill all those dogs, their owners are scum.
Only fighting dogs go manic when enraged. Poodles, Labradors all have higher bite statistics, it's irrelevant.
Most owners of pits are complete fucking gimps.
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So what man ? I already told him that I was almost got killed in Spain by two black guys... so I should fight to ban black people from earth???? thats totally non sense, that's fuckin racism!!! I wasn't able to defend myself because the two of them was with a .45 on my head saying they were going to blow my fuckin head. Because of this particular case I should start to hate black people ? Fuck this man, everybody have bad experiences in live and should learn from it, but this guy was already a sick guy.
I think my point is, you're trying to vehemently argue with someone that is obviously coming from a strong emotional standpoint. You can't convince these sort of people. Also, did the black guys maul you and cause you horrible injuries that required you to forfeit your business--paying for the rest of your life? I think there's a disparity here.
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I'm not trying to do nothing here... I don give a fuck about what he thinks about pits... I love them with all my heart and I think everybody deserve a second chance but that's my opinion... The guy doesn't even deserve the tattoo he got... he never loved pit bull... I thinks I KNOW the reason he got this tattoo....
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They are the best dog on the planet, unfortunately they are also most abused, and too often owned by minorities.
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It's cool dogs aren't as retarded as the people who own them.
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I'm not trying to do nothing here... I don give a fuck about what he thinks about pits... I love them with all my heart and I think everybody deserve a second chance but that's my opinion... The guy doesn't even deserve the tattoo he got... he never loved pit bull... I thinks I KNOW the reason he got this tattoo....
My issue is children being killed every month by dangerous dogs, especially pitbulls - hope this helps
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So what man ? I already told him that I was almost got killed in Spain by two black guys... so I should fight to ban black people from earth???? that's totally non sense, that's fuckin racism!!! I wasn't able to defend myself because the two of them was with a .45 on my head saying they were going to blow my fuckin head. Because of this particular case I should start to hate black people ? Fuck this man, everybody have bad experiences in live and should learn from it, but this guy was already a sick guy.
You know what, I have been attacked by three people at once on two separate occasions, both times other parties had weapons, it was traumatic, and I have had many other not so normal things happen to me - but nothing compares to being attacked by two crazy pitbulls! You can recall your average crime story, but the fact remains their are support systems in place for this and also punitive laws to encourage prevention - these don't yet exist in the case of dog attacks, as a dog attack victim, all i ask is that the system recognise and compensate me accordingly. i don't want to have to wait 5 years until lawsuit is settled, i could have done with the help immediately after the attack. My beef is I have to pick up the tab\ and I am left with lifelong scarring and injuries. As to why I fight for breed bans, because I truly believe if this breed hadn't been so heavily sponsored by biased dog groups the way the Dog Clubs push hard politically to save their favourite breeds, and there was more done to dissuade the average dickhead from owning one, my left leg and arm would be fine, I wouldn't have been attacked and I wouldn't be typing this post. But as it stand dog dickheads are still singing the same old tune that they have for 90 years - The Pidiot crowd are aggressive, offensive, unintelligent and uninformed - but dead children cant speak - so somebody has to speak for them.
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My issue is children being killed every month by dangerous dogs, especially pitbulls - hope this helps
Oh good god, your are either a complete idiot or a flat-out liar. Post some numbers supporting pitbulls "killing children every month" or shut the fuck up. You got gnawed on by a couple of pits? Oh well, so sorry, get over it. Maybe they like the taste of candy ass, dipshit.
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Oh good god, your are either a complete idiot or a flat-out liar. Post some numbers supporting pitbulls "killing children every month" or shut the fuck up. You got gnawed on by a couple of pits? Oh well, so sorry, get over it. Maybe they like the taste of candy ass, dipshit.
ahahahahaha YES!!!
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Oh good god, your are either a complete idiot or a flat-out liar. Post some numbers supporting pitbulls "killing children every month" or shut the fuck up. You got gnawed on by a couple of pits? Oh well, so sorry, get over it. Maybe they like the taste of candy ass, dipshit.
I actually get between 9 - 15 google alerts everyday on Pitbull attacks. I actually have so much data that there is no way I could post even the list of attack victims in the last three years here, the list is way too long. Anyway, you deluded pit cock suckers can believe all the bullshit you like, excuse me if I prefer the truth, what makes me laugh the most is how tough Pitiots talk, no wonder they need their dogs, they come across as insecure douchebags who need protection - you my good friend, definitely need a pitbull, because you are weak as piss!
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I actually get between 9 - 15 google alerts everyday on Pitbull attacks. I actually have so much data that there is no way I could post even the list of attack victims in the last three years here, the list is way too long. Anyway, you deluded pit cock suckers can believe all the bullshit you like, excuse me if I prefer the truth, what makes me laugh the most is how tough Pitiots talk, no wonder they need their dogs, they come across as insecure douchebags who need protection - you my good friend, definitely need a pitbull, because you are weak as piss!
I live in an area renowned for pitbulls bred specifically for HUMAN AGGRESSION and I've still never heard or witnessed any pitbull attacks. You're delusional and obsessed. You actually changed your Google News settings to include hits from pitbull attack stories. Ob-fucking-sessed.
Known so many pits from pups to old brittle poochies and never in their lifetime did they harm anyone. Even a few of the vets have pitbulls and they've said (after decades of practicing) that they've come to learn first hand that the pitbull stories are propaganda from red necks and obsessed idiots like E-Kul. My pit pup is a beauty and is extremely social. She'll go her entire life span without harming a soul, just like the other dogs I've owned. It ultimately comes down to how they were raised, just like how people commit even worse acts of violences in numbers ranging in the thousands and hundreds of thousands DAILY. The last thing anyone needs to worry about is dying from a pitbull attack. You'll sooner get a paper cut, then pneumonia or MRSA and die of that than get killed by a pit.
E-Kul seems to believe lightning's going to strike twice and that his life and 7 billion others are in immediate peril. Poor, delusional fucker. I'm going to go cuddle my pit before I head to bed.
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To think that E-Kul believes an adorable ham like this is going to grow up and destroy throngs of babies the second I turn my back LOL... she sure looks like she'll be a blood thirsty killer, eh!
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I actually get between 9 - 15 google alerts everyday on Pitbull attacks. I actually have so much data that there is no way I could post even the list of attack victims in the last three years here, the list is way too long. Anyway, you deluded pit cock suckers can believe all the bullshit you like, excuse me if I prefer the truth, what makes me laugh the most is how tough Pitiots talk, no wonder they need their dogs, they come across as insecure douchebags who need protection - you my good friend, definitely need a pitbull, because you are weak as piss!
Please change it to include: Poodles, Cocker Spaniels (the craziest of dogs), Chiuauas, Dobermans, German Shepards, Rotts, Fox terriers, Bull Terriers, English Staffys, Golden Retrievers, Labs, Chesapeake Bay Retrievers, Greyhounds, Bull dogs, Dogos, Presas...
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I live in an area renowned for pitbulls bred specifically for HUMAN AGGRESSION and I've still never heard or witnessed any pitbull attacks. You're delusional and obsessed. You actually changed your Google News settings to include hits from pitbull attack stories. Ob-fucking-sessed.
Known so many pits from pups to old brittle poochies and never in their lifetime did they harm anyone. Even a few of the vets have pitbulls and they've said (after decades of practicing) that they've come to learn first hand that the pitbull stories are propaganda from red necks and obsessed idiots like E-Kul. My pit pup is a beauty and is extremely social. She'll go her entire life span without harming a soul, just like the other dogs I've owned. It ultimately comes down to how they were raised, just like how people commit even worse acts of violences in numbers ranging in the thousands and hundreds of thousands DAILY. The last thing anyone needs to worry about is dying from a pitbull attack. You'll sooner get a paper cut, then pneumonia or MRSA and die of that than get killed by a pit.
E-Kul seems to believe lightning's going to strike twice and that his life and 7 billion others are in immediate peril. Poor, delusional fucker. I'm going to go cuddle my pit before I head to bed.
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To think that E-Kul believes an adorable ham like this is going to grow up and destroy throngs of babies the second I turn my back LOL... she sure looks like she'll be a blood thirsty killer, eh!
Anyway Google Alerts is a simple feauture of Google that alerts you to news stories - haven't changed any google news settings as you suggest. You bet I am obsessed, the whole time good men women and children are being maimed and killed I will fight to have the Pitbulls eradicated from the face of the earth.
Anyway, pidiots never cease to amaze me, that is why I never try and chagne a Pidiots mind, they are unstable, dangerous characters, who cant accept the truth, even when it kills their wife!
Husband Forgives Pit Bull for Killing Pregnant Wife Darla Napora Aug 18, 2011
Darla Napora, the 32-year-old pregnant Pacifica woman killed by her own pit bull is described as being an avid, long-time supporter and member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls [BAD RAP],”…a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous..,” according to truecrimereporter.com.
Her husband, Greg, says he plans to have the pit bull’s ashes buried with his wife.
Greg Napora says when he left home at 8:00 a.m. his pregnant wife was asleep and the couple’s two unaltered pit bulls a—a two-year-old male, Gunner, and six-year-old female, Tazi—were in bed with her. He returned home about 12:15 p.m. from his construction job to take Darla to lunch and found Gunner in the living room, covered with blood and standing over the mauled, lifeless body of his wife. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/animal-rights/pit-bull-mauls-and-kills-pregnant-california-woman-darla-napora
A neighbor said the couple got Gunner when he was a puppy and she believed neutering him might have avoided this attack.
Darla’s mother, Sandy Robinson, of Seattle, WA, told Mercury News that her daughter “…was ecstatic about being pregnant with the couple’s first child.” She said Darla and Greg had declined to know the gender of the child. She described Darla as “the heart of the family,” and said, “She was the one who held the family together.”
The NYDailyNews.com reports Darla was in her sixth month of pregnancy and that the couple had been married about two years. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/12/2011-08-12_pregnant_woman_in_california_darla_napora_mauled_killed_by_own_pit_bull_.html
A native of Yakima, WA, Darla Napora worked behind a bar since coming to the Bay Area more than 11 years ago. She now managed the bar at the high-end 231 Ellsworth Restaurant in San Mateo, and also sold wine for a brokerage. The general manager of the restaurant said Darla worked almost every night of the week, according to Mercury News.com. http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_18671143
Reuters reports that the police stated on Monday, “Preliminary autopsy results show that a pregnant San Francisco-area woman who was killed by her pit bull died from blood loss and shock.” http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/us-pitbull-death-idUSTRE77F02820110816
Impressions taken from both dogs show that all of Napora's injuries were consistent with bites from Gunner and that there was no evidence that the female dog, Tazi, took part in the attack, according to the police report.
Greg Napora says that he forgives Gunner for killing his wife and unborn child because it was “just a freak accident…They (their two pit bulls) are the most loving animals I have ever had in my life. Whatever happened right now was not the breed’s fault."
A necropsy will be performed on Gunner for signs of illness or other possible causes for the attack. Pacifica Police announced they are also investigating the slight possibility of foul play by other unknown parties while they are waiting for the results of an autopsy for Darla Napora. Captain Dave Bertini said, "...you never know, so that is why we are waiting for the reports to make sure we didn't miss anything." Police expect the results of both the autopsy and necropsy to be completed within three weeks.
In the meantime, Greg Napora picked up six-year-old Tazi from Peninsula Humane Society late Monday afternoon, according to Pacifica Patch. http://pacifica.patch.com/articles/female-pit-bull-released-to-husband-of-mauling-victim
“We needed to know that the second dog was not involved in the attack before we decided to return it to its owner,” Peninsula Humane Association spokesperson Scott Delucchi said. “We also wanted to hear that the owner wanted the dog back.”
“The Humane Society learned early on, soon after his wife’s death, that Greg Napora wanted Tazi back,” states Patch reporter Camden Swita.
Delucchi stated that Tazi had been observed at the Humane Society for signs of aggression. There was no indication that she had been involved in the attack, Delucchi said. She was checked for signs of abuse. There were records of regular veterinary care. Both dogs were licensed in San Mateo County. Inquiries were made to neighbors who said there was no indication that the dogs were neglected, so the Humane Society had to give the dog back to her owner
“You can never predict future behavior (of dogs),” Delucchi said. “We cannot say for sure we know what a dog will do. We can only judge the grounds for holding a dog; we had no legal authority.”
He also said that he understands the safety concerns of neighbors who have reported they are uncomfortable with the dog’s release back into the community.
“But I also think of someone who loses his wife, unborn child and other dog in one day,” Delucchi said. “So maybe that second dog is all he’s got. So, we’re trying to think about it that way. I’m asking people to be compassionate.”
When asked about his opinion on pit bull bans and whether the breed is inherently dangerous, Delucchi replied his organization sees the problem “primarily lying with the owner.”
If that is true, should this dog be released back to Greg Napora?
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You see the famous case where two Presas killed a woman?
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I actually get between 9 - 15 google alerts everyday on Pitbull attacks. I actually have so much data that there is no way I could post even the list of attack victims in the last three years here, the list is way too long. Anyway, you deluded pit cock suckers can believe all the bullshit you like, excuse me if I prefer the truth, what makes me laugh the most is how tough Pitiots talk, no wonder they need their dogs, they come across as insecure douchebags who need protection - you my good friend, definitely need a pitbull, because you are weak as piss!
HHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never seen someone so obsessed. Get some mental health, you useless sack of pitbull shit. :D
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HHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have never seen someone so obsessed. Get some mental health, you useless sack of pitbull shit. :D
Hahah google alerts ;D
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Best dog I have ever owned protective of my daughter and family.
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Anyway Google Alerts is a simple feauture of Google that alerts you to news stories - haven't changed any google news settings as you suggest. You bet I am obsessed, the whole time good men women and children are being maimed and killed I will fight to have the Pitbulls eradicated from the face of the earth.
Anyway, pidiots never cease to amaze me, that is why I never try and chagne a Pidiots mind, they are unstable, dangerous characters, who cant accept the truth, even when it kills their wife!
Husband Forgives Pit Bull for Killing Pregnant Wife Darla Napora Aug 18, 2011
Darla Napora, the 32-year-old pregnant Pacifica woman killed by her own pit bull is described as being an avid, long-time supporter and member of Bay Area Dog Lovers Responsible About Pit Bulls [BAD RAP],”…a group that does its best to convince people that pit bulls aren't really that dangerous..,” according to truecrimereporter.com.
Her husband, Greg, says he plans to have the pit bull’s ashes buried with his wife.
Greg Napora says when he left home at 8:00 a.m. his pregnant wife was asleep and the couple’s two unaltered pit bulls a—a two-year-old male, Gunner, and six-year-old female, Tazi—were in bed with her. He returned home about 12:15 p.m. from his construction job to take Darla to lunch and found Gunner in the living room, covered with blood and standing over the mauled, lifeless body of his wife. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/animal-rights/pit-bull-mauls-and-kills-pregnant-california-woman-darla-napora
A neighbor said the couple got Gunner when he was a puppy and she believed neutering him might have avoided this attack.
Darla’s mother, Sandy Robinson, of Seattle, WA, told Mercury News that her daughter “…was ecstatic about being pregnant with the couple’s first child.” She said Darla and Greg had declined to know the gender of the child. She described Darla as “the heart of the family,” and said, “She was the one who held the family together.”
The NYDailyNews.com reports Darla was in her sixth month of pregnancy and that the couple had been married about two years. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/08/12/2011-08-12_pregnant_woman_in_california_darla_napora_mauled_killed_by_own_pit_bull_.html
A native of Yakima, WA, Darla Napora worked behind a bar since coming to the Bay Area more than 11 years ago. She now managed the bar at the high-end 231 Ellsworth Restaurant in San Mateo, and also sold wine for a brokerage. The general manager of the restaurant said Darla worked almost every night of the week, according to Mercury News.com. http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo-county/ci_18671143
Reuters reports that the police stated on Monday, “Preliminary autopsy results show that a pregnant San Francisco-area woman who was killed by her pit bull died from blood loss and shock.” http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/us-pitbull-death-idUSTRE77F02820110816
Impressions taken from both dogs show that all of Napora's injuries were consistent with bites from Gunner and that there was no evidence that the female dog, Tazi, took part in the attack, according to the police report.
Greg Napora says that he forgives Gunner for killing his wife and unborn child because it was “just a freak accident…They (their two pit bulls) are the most loving animals I have ever had in my life. Whatever happened right now was not the breed’s fault."
A necropsy will be performed on Gunner for signs of illness or other possible causes for the attack. Pacifica Police announced they are also investigating the slight possibility of foul play by other unknown parties while they are waiting for the results of an autopsy for Darla Napora. Captain Dave Bertini said, "...you never know, so that is why we are waiting for the reports to make sure we didn't miss anything." Police expect the results of both the autopsy and necropsy to be completed within three weeks.
In the meantime, Greg Napora picked up six-year-old Tazi from Peninsula Humane Society late Monday afternoon, according to Pacifica Patch. http://pacifica.patch.com/articles/female-pit-bull-released-to-husband-of-mauling-victim
“We needed to know that the second dog was not involved in the attack before we decided to return it to its owner,” Peninsula Humane Association spokesperson Scott Delucchi said. “We also wanted to hear that the owner wanted the dog back.”
“The Humane Society learned early on, soon after his wife’s death, that Greg Napora wanted Tazi back,” states Patch reporter Camden Swita.
Delucchi stated that Tazi had been observed at the Humane Society for signs of aggression. There was no indication that she had been involved in the attack, Delucchi said. She was checked for signs of abuse. There were records of regular veterinary care. Both dogs were licensed in San Mateo County. Inquiries were made to neighbors who said there was no indication that the dogs were neglected, so the Humane Society had to give the dog back to her owner
“You can never predict future behavior (of dogs),” Delucchi said. “We cannot say for sure we know what a dog will do. We can only judge the grounds for holding a dog; we had no legal authority.”
He also said that he understands the safety concerns of neighbors who have reported they are uncomfortable with the dog’s release back into the community.
“But I also think of someone who loses his wife, unborn child and other dog in one day,” Delucchi said. “So maybe that second dog is all he’s got. So, we’re trying to think about it that way. I’m asking people to be compassionate.”
When asked about his opinion on pit bull bans and whether the breed is inherently dangerous, Delucchi replied his organization sees the problem “primarily lying with the owner.”
If that is true, should this dog be released back to Greg Napora?
I don't have time to read that but you clearly do. My 25 years surrounded by pits is all I need. I'm also not a pit fanatic. Didn't really care for them until a few years ago and this was a rescue from some idiot who bought her without permission and was going to give her to even bigger retards.
You're an obsessed loser. I can't much else other than how shockingly pathetic you are. If I believed in God and salvation I would include you in my prayers, phaggot.
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I don't have time to read that but you clearly do. My 25 years surrounded by pits is all I need. I'm also not a pit fanatic. Didn't really care for them until a few years ago and this was a rescue from some idiot who bought her without permission and was going to give her to even bigger retards.
You're an obsessed loser. I can't much else other than how shockingly pathetic you are. If I believed in God and salvation I would include you in my prayers, phaggot.
Dont worry, must Pitbull owners cant read more than a sentence or two at a time. You can use time as an excuse, also most Pitbull Owners would never read anything about Pitbull Victims as it might start to crack their 25 year denial, and that can be painful. I have argued with so many Pidiots and this is how it goes.
Pidiot: hey, I hear ya dont like Pitbulls
Victim: Yeah thats right, they kill man woman and children every week
Pidiot: oh ok, but you dont know what you are talking about, Pitbulls have never attacked anyone, there is no such thing as a Pitbull anyway.
I have 90 years of Pidiot lies and propoganda here that all us other Pidiots believe and agree on, so you must be wrong and we must be right
Victim: But I actually have factual evidence and can produce 1000's of pages citations of victims and evidence that clearly proves that these dogs are killers and will continue to maim and kill children, aren't you worried about the children
Pidiot: No, I ain't worried about no children, fuck other peoples children. they probably provoked the dog anyway and deserved to be killed. I want to own a killer dog, and thats all there is to it
Victim: But dont you see you are distorting the truth and rubbing salt into all the children who have been killed by these dogs.
Pidiot: I hate you, I want you dead, you are a complete fucker who only wants to remove my right to be a complete cun+- and as a complete cun+, I reserve the right to be a Complete Cun+ (lovely people Pidiots - def not someone you would want as a neighbour)
25 years around pitbulls - enough said - there is no arguing with any arsehole who would choose to participate in an anti social endeavour for 25 years - I actually feel sorry for Pitbull owners as they cut themselves of from society and are then only limited to socialising with others of a similar low iq, lucky for them there are a lot of people to choose from, but they will never get the benefit from hanging around a real human being who could help them evolve to the next level. But unfortunately for Pitbull owners, they don't have the smarts to see that they have marginalised themselves and are considered a complete dropkick by anybody with an inkling of intelligence.
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25 years around pitbulls - enough said - there is no arguing with any arsehole who would choose to participate in an anti social endeavour for 25 years - I actually feel sorry for Pitbull owners as they cut themselves of from society and are then only limited to socialising with others of a similar low iq, lucky for them there are a lot of people to choose from, but they will never get the benefit from hanging around a real human being who could help them evolve to the next level. But unfortunately for Pitbull owners, they don't have the smarts to see that they have marginalised themselves and are considered a complete dropkick by anybody with an inkling of intelligence.
you are the most annoying guy on the face of the Earth, I just stop replying you just to see if you shut the fuck up... just give up your not going to pass this disease of your to anyone here.. we love pitbulls and that's it. Stop being a fucking idiot, we already sow that you are a insane sick guy.
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you are the most annoying guy on the face of the Earth, I just stop replying you just to see if you shut the fuck up... just give up your not going to pass this disease of your to anyone here.. we love pitbulls and that's it. Stop being a fucking idiot, we already sow that you are a insane sick ####.
I dont need to pass my disease on to anybody, as the majority of the public already hate and despise Pitbulls - this is the problem with the average Pidiot, they dont understand they are hated by almost everyone except other Pit bull Lovers - this is what I haven't been able to work out, because Pidiots flock together and talk their nonsense constantly, they are so out of touch with public Opinion. Normal people despise you and your dogs, this is no secret! Pidiot are also used to abusing people until they go away, but fortunately for me I have survived Pitbulls, there owners are just a joke when it comes to being able to debate or argue anything of substance. Pidiots always resort to low grade abuse and put downs and eventually walk away defeated. I have experienced this over and over again for myself, as Pitbull Owners are pathetic shadows of their dogs, and easily defeated, I have and will always own any Pidiot!
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yeah like clearly you did to me in all the previous posts.... tcs tcs tcs. You just ignored basicly all my posts or answer them with some news from a endoftheworld newspaper...
Ok man, you win.. now let me take poppa to the park. just stop posting because nobody can stand more read the shit you write.
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E-Kul is proof that the Australians let their retards run loose.
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E-Kul is proof that the Australians let their retards run loose.
HA HA HA You can always count on Chaos for a pretty stock standard unintelligible insult. Oh Chaos, those hurt feelings still lingering in your soul. I don't mind renting your head space, if you don't mind!
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yeah like clearly you did to me in all the previous posts.... tcs tcs tcs. You just ignored basicly all my posts or answer them with some news from a endoftheworld newspaper...
Ok man, you win.. now let me take poppa to the park. just stop posting because nobody can stand more read the shit you write.
Here is an image for you, you may not see it, because as you well know Pitbulls are safe and friendly and would only ever lick you to death, plus pitbulls don't exsist anyway, there is no such breed, it's just the owner, there aren't any victims, and if a pitbull did attack, it was the victims fault anyway. Anyway, you know all the truths, so this image shouldn't affect you, because there is no way a pitbull did this even though it did.
Sweet Dreams
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I'd never have to worry about you hurting me, I have two pitbulls, you fat pussy. :D
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I'd never have to worry about you hurting me, I have two pitbulls, you fat pussy. :D
I am not afraid of Pitbulls, I look forward to killing one eventually on film for demonstration purposes, I am still waiting for someone to offer up there dog, if like most owners, you get sick of one of your dogs, put him to good use, and let me kill it on film while it attacks to help educate the public, this will save many lives. Anyway, dogs are dumb a bit of planning and poisoned meat tends to be all is needed, as for there owners, I have never met a greater bunch of insecure weak narcissistic individuals in my whole life. I will collect you at the Melbourne airport, let me know when you arrive, I will bring a treat for your dogs!
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I am not afraid of Pitbulls, I look forward to killing one eventually on film for demonstration purposes, I am still waiting for someone to offer up there dog, if like most owners, you get sick of one of your dogs, put him to good use, and let me kill it on film while it attacks to help educate the public, this will save many lives. Anyway, dogs are dumb a bit of planning and poisoned meat tends to be all is needed, as for there owners, I have never met a greater bunch of insecure weak narcissistic individuals in my whole life. I will collect you at the Melbourne airport, let me know when you arrive, I will bring a treat for your dogs!
LOL, my dumbass dogs wouldn't attack anything, they are useless! ;D
As far "collecting" me, why don't I collect you when you arrive at LAX?
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LOL, my dumbass dogs wouldn't attack anything, they are useless! ;D
As far "collecting" me, why don't I collect you when you arrive at LAX?
I am unable to leave this shithole of a country - if i could i would be long gone!
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Dogs are wonderful. But something with pitbulls can just make them go off. I know of a few people in my town who have been attacked by them. Same old story - 'dog has never been aggressive in the past before' but then it kills a child or maims a person. Beautiful dogs, but they can turn nasty easily. Sometimes it's the owner, but in this case it's the breed.
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I am unable to leave this shithole of a country - if i could i would be long gone!
Hahaa! What a loser! Gets his ass kicked by a couple dogs and isn't allowed to leave the country. ;D
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Hahaa! What a loser! Gets his ass kicked by a couple dogs and isn't allowed to leave the country. ;D
I cant leave the country because of my criminal record, that is the only reason!
as for the dog attack, it would be a brave man who would attempt to recreate such a scenario - attacks on my masculinity don't work - as I have faced a greater force than man, and that force made me fear no man, it actually made me realise how pathetically weak men were, even the really so called tough ones - so people can talk as tough as they like to me, I know deep down how weak and vulnerable the average person is and how they mask there fear through presenting a powerful fearless image. The most frightened people of all, are those who are unaware of their fear, or aware of their fear and in denial of it. As a man, I know my fears, I know my weaknesses and I know others. The last point being the most important, I know what makes people tick, and I can soothe or inflame them in an instant. I have learnt to embrace conflict and know all the tactics in the book! Persistent Low Grade insults and attacks are always the tool in trade for those not yet skilled in conflict and debate!
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I cant leave the country because of my criminal record, that is the only reason!
So those dogs that attacked you were inside the house you broke into?
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So those dogs that attacked you were inside the house you broke into?
No, I have a criminal record because I broke a mans arm in a fight! well, thats the most recent one, but over my adult life I have several convictions! No shame in them, they were all self defense! I would never break into another mans house!, I owned and operated a large area lawn mowing service, and I was doing a quote on a 10 acre property when the attack occured, for truth. I am actually a pacifist who only believes in violence when attacked first! Then it is game on, and let the violence begin. But until that point, i can argue and trade insults all day long
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No, I have a criminal record because I broke a mans arm in a fight! well, thats the most recent one, but over my adult life I have several convictions! No shame in them, they were all self defense! I would never break into another mans house, I owned and operated a large area lawn mowing service, and I was doing a quote on a 10 acre property when the attack occured, for truth.
You were trespassing and got raped by two dogs. Admit it.
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You were trespassing and got raped by two dogs. Admit it.
Look, if it gets you hard and you would like to believe that story, by all mean, believe that. But forgive me if I choose to ignore BullSH!T and stick with the truth. And if it makes you feel any better the Pitbulls died on that day, and I didn't. So although Pitbulls are tough, they aren't too bright - so the Pitbulls won the Battle, but I won the war! Pitbulls Dead - Me Alive!
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Look, if it gets you hard and you would like to believe that story, by all mean, believe that. But forgive me if I choose to ignore BullSH!T and stick with the truth. And if it makes you feel any better the Pitbulls died on that day, and I didn't. So although Pitbulls are tough, they aren't too bright - so the Pitbulls won the Battle, but I won the war! Pitbulls Dead - Me Alive!
Yes the pitbulls died (PBUT), but thier lives are over and you are scarred physically and much more obviously mentally, for the rest of your pathetic trailer dwelling life. :D
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Yes the pitbulls died (PBUT), but thier lives are over and you are scarred physically and much more obviously mentally, for the rest of your pathetic trailer dwelling life. :D
I live in a very comfortable three bedroom house in Melbourne - $350 per week with my cat, By the time I was thirty five I had obtained everything I wanted from life materially and I am now seeking a different life, a more activist lifestyle, anyway, yes I am scarred physically and mentally, and I am hoping to somehow use this trauma to minimise future victims, especially the kids, it is not that I want to kill anyones dogs, it is just that you guys haven't come up with any alternate solutions to the problem. So until, the issue, which is the inevitable victims of attack are reduced or wiped out completely, the whole breed ban issue will rage on. If you guys really gave a fuck about Pitbulls, you would also be looking for ways to reduce the attacks that reinforce the stereotype, but unfortunately Pit Bull Lovers only see there side of the story and not the victims side, once PitBull lovers drop their aggressive and hostile approach towards victims and offer up practical suggestion to minimise future attacks, you guys and the dogs you love will be despised. I have an advantage of every Pitbull Lover, I am a victim of a serious dog attack, and the more you harass victims, the more the community will turn on you, and that is why I continue my campaign.
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and the more you harass victims, the more the community will turn on you, and that is why I continue my campaign.
What about "victims" ::) like you that constantly harass and threaten to kill pitbulls? The owners have every right to own the dogs and you have every right to stay in your home to avoid them.
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What about "victims" ::) like you that constantly harass and threaten to kill pitbulls? The owners have every right to own the dogs and you have every right to stay in your home to avoid them.
Just because the Owners have a right, which they actually dont in this country, but anyway, just because something is legal, does not make it right. Any decent citizen would care about the safety of his fellow man and not own an animal that has an unpredictable attack history, especially since the majority of the victims are children. But most Pitbull Owners, and studies bear this out, are far from normal, they are definately not the ideal neighbour. JMO
You only need to look to the American miltary, and there banning of the PITBULL on all Military Bases in America, and you will get an idea of what a real threat the animal is! This is from the highest office in your land. The pentagon!
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What about "victims" ::) like you that constantly harass and threaten to kill pitbulls? The owners have every right to own the dogs and you have every right to stay in your home to avoid them.
I am not personally threatening to kill pitbulls, I mean to have them euthanized in a humane way. I merely offered to demonstrate how to defend against an attacking pitbull, unfortunately, the Pitbull would have to die in such a demonstration!
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I have two full blooded pitbulls, one just turned 16 in January, other will be 15 in June....have never even growled or shown teeth to any human being. Been around infants, children...never any aggression.
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Dont worry, must Pitbull owners cant read more than a sentence or two at a time. You can use time as an excuse, also most Pitbull Owners would never read anything about Pitbull Victims as it might start to crack their 25 year denial, and that can be painful. I have argued with so many Pidiots and this is how it goes.
Pidiot: hey, I hear ya dont like Pitbulls
Victim: Yeah thats right, they kill man woman and children every week
Pidiot: oh ok, but you dont know what you are talking about, Pitbulls have never attacked anyone, there is no such thing as a Pitbull anyway.
I have 90 years of Pidiot lies and propoganda here that all us other Pidiots believe and agree on, so you must be wrong and we must be right
Victim: But I actually have factual evidence and can produce 1000's of pages citations of victims and evidence that clearly proves that these dogs are killers and will continue to maim and kill children, aren't you worried about the children
Pidiot: No, I ain't worried about no children, fuck other peoples children. they probably provoked the dog anyway and deserved to be killed. I want to own a killer dog, and thats all there is to it
Victim: But dont you see you are distorting the truth and rubbing salt into all the children who have been killed by these dogs.
Pidiot: I hate you, I want you dead, you are a complete fucker who only wants to remove my right to be a complete cun+- and as a complete cun+, I reserve the right to be a Complete Cun+ (lovely people Pidiots - def not someone you would want as a neighbour)
25 years around pitbulls - enough said - there is no arguing with any arsehole who would choose to participate in an anti social endeavour for 25 years - I actually feel sorry for Pitbull owners as they cut themselves of from society and are then only limited to socialising with others of a similar low iq, lucky for them there are a lot of people to choose from, but they will never get the benefit from hanging around a real human being who could help them evolve to the next level. But unfortunately for Pitbull owners, they don't have the smarts to see that they have marginalised themselves and are considered a complete dropkick by anybody with an inkling of intelligence.
Don't make me angry, phaggot. Otherwise you'll have to face the wrath of my vicious hell hound.
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I hope you're shaking in fear. My little Lucy will soak you in saliva should you DARE step foot in my home. This little beast will give you the tongue lashing of a lifetime. ::)
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Dogs are wonderful. But something with pitbulls can just make them go off.
Indeed. Did you all see this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States
Pitbulls have since 2005 killed on average one person a month in the US.
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Jesus is this pussy ass ekuhl still blabbing his mouth about the pitbull devils that ripped his pathetic body to pieces. You still crying about that pussy.
Fear is your master you little bitch. They're coming for you again bro. This time it will be three of them. No escape for you this time. They're going to eat you this time. MUHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AH. Im going to fly to Australia with 5 pitbulls on steroids and we're going to come looking for you and your family. I'm going to feed them hotsauce and gunpowder get them all fired up. We're going to trap you against a wall and I'm going to let them feast on you! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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You better run bitch we're coming for your soul this time. No games.
We're fucken coming bitch. I got a whole crate of them. Blood thirsty. Ready to ravage your whole town. They feast on little kids souls. We're coming for you!!! Get ready mother fucker.
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They can taste blood already yum yum juicy little kids. They love to eat them.
Your worst fucken nightmare!!! Better get ready!!
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I get attacked by my cat when I trim his nails.
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Ekul is a fear monger. He is ruled by fear. Now his life is ruined and he's a fellon. He wants to fight everyone all the time. Real big tough guy. ::)
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Pitbulls if raised correctly are one of the best if not the best breed anyone can own.
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Let a cane corso loose and its gameover on someone
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Let a cane corso loose and its gameover on someone
Cane corsos are true manstoppers.
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Good looking boy! That first pic made my day man, thanks for sharing.
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The corso is a yr old 125lbs a true gentle giant a pic for size comparison
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Ekul is a fear monger. He is ruled by fear. Now his life is ruined and he's a fellon. He wants to fight everyone all the time. Real big tough guy. ::)
E-kul is a pussy ass homo with girlfriend who's a fat disgusting suckling pig Bitch hog. The only good thing to come from australia is chopper read...
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I got 21 stitches from a pitbull.
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I needn't provide any evidence of the type of people who own and defend Pitbulls - you just need to look at their posts, any man who advocates child murder even as a joke, is in definite need of a severe beatdown! and from my life experience, any man with an attitude like that has the beat down coming very shortly! Personally, I cant stand child killers, the thought of them makes my blood boil, and I surely would do away with one without a moments hesitation. And all Pitts are child killers.
Pitbulls Kill Children and adults regularly, this is a fact! And your ranting and raving and continually trying to push what has been proved to be lies over and over again is truly sickening! I expect nothing less from Pitbull defenders, they are the lowest scum on the face of the Earth, I am yet to meet a person who actually like Pitbull owners, the only people who seem to like them are other Pitbull Owners. It seems that the insecure weak men in our society found themselves a Support Group - The Pit Nut Huggers little Man complex Support Group.
HA HA I laugh at your attempts to Intimidate - I have faced Pitbulls, and they make you blokes sound like a bunch of dying old men. You have the intimidation factor of a Kindergarten Class. Like I would ever be scared of a man - I know better - men are pathetic and weak and the more frightening they try and appear, the more I internally snicker to myself and repeat in my head "What a fucking LOSER!"
I truly understand why men like you would need such a dog, because even on the Internet, your weakness is evident with every post! The thing that gets me the most, is that Pit Bull Owners seem unaware that the rest of the community are aware of their deep, and I mean deep insecurities. They don't seem to realise, the Pitbull is a dead give away. The funniest thing is when they try to deny they haven't got the dog to boost their fragile ego? Pidiots will rant all day to prove that their dog isn't an extension of their tiny little weiner! It's hilarious, to see them stutter and bamboozle their way through an attempt at a semi literate argument! The lowest people on the Planet are Pitbull Owners. This is no secret!
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HA HA I laugh at your attempts to Intimidate - I have faced Pitbulls, and they make you blokes sound like a bunch of dying old men. You have the intimidation factor of a Kindergarten Class. Like I would ever be scared of a man - I know better - men are pathetic and weak and the more frightening they try and appear, the more I internally snicker to myself and repeat in my head "What a fucking LOSER!"
Lol!
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E-kul is a pussy ass homo with girlfriend who's a fat disgusting suckling pig Bitch hog. The only good thing to come from Australia is chopper read...
Chopper Reid is a Psychopath Murderer who is a renowned Liar, he is a Hated man, and soon to be dead from illness. is that the person you truly look up to - Man, you either are some bikie jailbird with an IQ of 42 or just trying to appear tough.
The greatest man to come out of Australia was Julian Assange
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I love dogs and ekul is a knob but thre is something in an intact male pit that makes them snap its an animal instict that cant be turned off. Infact Ifanyone here had a bull terrier type dog that was not castrated im sure I ouldmake his attack with just a look and nothing else.
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I love dogs and ekul is a knob but thre is something in an intact male pit that makes them snap its an animal instict that cant be turned off. Infact Ifanyone here had a bull terrier type dog that was not castrated im sure I ouldmake his attack with just a look and nothing else.
I've never seen a dog snap ever. I've been around so many pitbulls in my life. If you get them from quality lines there shouldn't be any issues. This is an urban myth. The whole lock jaw thing is a myth to.
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yeah. vicious killers. especially the stray ones.
http://m.examiner.com/inspirational-pets-in-orlando/stray-pit-bull-saves-a-woman-and-child-from-attacker
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yeah. vicious killers. especially the stray ones.
http://m.examiner.com/inspirational-pets-in-orlando/stray-pit-bull-saves-a-woman-and-child-from-attacker
Agreed, Nothing wrong with Pitbulls! if you hate Children!
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Agreed, Nothing wrong with Pitbulls! if you hate Children!
You're kinda becoming annoying, E-Kunt.
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Ya ekul just because your scard to death of pitbulls doesn't mean the rest of us are. You ruined a perfectly good thread with your stupid bullshit 99% of getbiggers in this thread have had nothing but good experinces with them. A lot of us love them. You are the minority here. Pitbulls aren't the only breed that has hurt people. Get over man. It's like saying all black people are bad. You sound borderline unstable/crazy.
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any dog with an irresponsible owner = disaster
this breed has no chance in hell
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You're kinda becoming annoying, E-Kunt.
Oh, the truth is penetrating to the core - The mighty Chaos is reduced to school yard insults!
I am honored - Kunt is a respectable insult from the mighty Chaos!
also proof the meltdown is inevitable.....
jult like a child being killed by "The nanny Killer Dog"
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Ya ekul just because your scard to death of pitbulls doesn't mean the rest of us are. You ruined a perfectly good thread with your stupid bullshit 99% of getbiggers in this thread have had nothing but good experinces with them. A lot of us love them. You are the minority here. Pitbulls aren't the only breed that has hurt people. Get over man. It's like saying all black people are bad. You sound borderline unstable/crazy.
Personally, I dont give a flying fuck what you like or don't like - Anyone, and I mean anyone who chooses animal live over human life is a disgusting human being and a traitor to the human race - and if I was running the show, you dont have to have much imagination to know what I would do with a child killer! JMO
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Oh, the truth is penetrating to the core - The mighty Chaos is reduced to school yard insults!
I am honored - Kunt is a respectable insult from the mighty Chaos!
also proof the meltdown is inevitable.....
jult like a child being killed by "The nanny Killer Dog"
LOL. Seek help twink.
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LOL. Seek help twink.
HA HA - Twink - I love it - HA HA HA HA I cant stop laughing - imagining Chaos with a steroid fueled Red Faced having a litle hissy fit because other people dont agree with his retarded opinion. Chaos must be used to bullying people in real life and not having to deal with people who dont back down from his tough guy BS!
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HA HA - Twink - I love it - HA HA HA HA I cant stop laughing - imagining Chaos with a steroid fueled Red Faced having a litle hissy fit because other people dont agree with his retarded opinion. Chaos must be used to bullying people in real life and not having to deal with people who dont back down from his tough guy BS!
It's quite obvious you're being a little bitch here, crying about dogs cause they kicked your ass. You're the one that turned a perfectly enjoyable thread into some knd of tantrum over pitbulls.
And lol @ you for thinking anyone is getting angry or "tough" with you on the internet. ::)
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It's quite obvious you're being a little bitch here, crying about dogs cause they kicked your ass. You're the one that turned a perfectly enjoyable thread into some knd of tantrum over pitbulls.
And lol @ you for thinking anyone is getting angry or "tough" with you on the internet. ::)
It's not a tantrum you idiot - I have been running breed ban advocacy material for the last 18 months , youtube videos, pressuring governments and seeking legal action all in relation to this issue - also writing a book as we speak - this is my life - this is no tantrum! - If you think this is a sook, you haven't seen anything, I am just getting warmed up - I intend to spend the rest of my days proving and dismantling the Bullshit Propaganda Campaign Pidiots have been running for 90 years - So you better get used to it, because I am just building momentum.
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It's not a tantrum you idiot - I have been running breed ban advocacy material for the last 18 months , youtube videos, pressuring governments and seeking legal action all in relation to this issue - also writing a book as we speak - this is my life - this is no tantrum! - If you think this is a sook, you haven't seen anything, I am just getting warmed up - I intend to spend the rest of my days proving and dismantling the Bullshit Propaganda Campaign Pidiots have been running for 90 years - So you better get used to it, because I am just building momentum.
I can see this is far beyond a tantrum, it's a full scale, massive meltdown. Your blood pressure must be through the roof, relax E-Kunt, you'll live longer.
Unless of course the pitbulls get you again. :D
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I can see this is far beyond a tantrum, it's a full scale, massive meltdown. Your blood pressure must be through the roof, relax E-Kunt, you'll live longer.
Unless of course the pitbulls get you again. :D
You know what - I have never ever had an issue with blood pressure - even when I have been on a rant and doctors have taken my blood pressure and nothing - I usually am in perfect health! What you see as a rant! is a focused detrmination to save lives - the words are typed effortlessly with a calm mind - not a ripple of emotion! with a conviction that the truth will always be a truth, even if it seem to be always the last to arrive - I fight with an urgency, for the sooner the truth is accepted, the sooner the attacks and deaths of children will stop!
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You know what - I have never ever had an issue with blood pressure - even when I have been on a rant and doctors have taken my blood pressure and nothing - I usually am in perfect health! What you see as a rant! is a focused detrmination to save lives - the words are typed effortlessly with a calm mind - not a ripple of emotion! with a conviction that the truth will always be a truth, even if it seem to be always the last to arrive - I fight with an urgency, for the sooner the truth is accepted, the sooner the attacks and deaths of children will stop!
Your efforts would be better put to use trying to keep kids off drugs, in school and out of violence than trying to get a breed banned. Maybe focus your efforts on mentoring a kid with no father, volunteering at an orphanage or helping with some after school programs. But we both know you're not really doing it for the kids, you're doing it out of revenge for getting your ass kicked. ;)
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Your efforts would be better put to use trying to keep kids off drugs, in school and out of violence than trying to get a breed banned. Maybe focus your efforts on mentoring a kid with no father, volunteering at an orphanage or helping with some after school programs. But we both know you're not really doing it for the kids, you're doing it out of revenge for getting your ass kicked. ;)
I have mentored a child with no father for the past 8 years, in that time I also walked 100km as team leader in The Oxfam trailwalker raising tens of thousands of dollars for charity. - I regularly helped out with people with addiction - even studied diploma in alcohol and other drugs to counsel drug addicts and now I am an anti war, humans rights and breed ban advocate - Do I really need to get out my resume demonstrating my social consciousness or is that enough for you!
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I have been running breed ban advocacy material for the last 18 months , youtube videos, pressuring governments and seeking legal action all in relation to this issue So you better get used to it, because I am just building momentum.
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your 'government pressure' is really paying off
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/02/24/ontario-mpp-pitbull-ban-end.html
keep building that momentum!
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your 'government pressure' is really paying off
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/02/24/ontario-mpp-pitbull-ban-end.html
keep building that momentum!
I live in Australia - and yes things are slowly changing - it was unfortunate that the government had to wait until a 4 year old girl was mauled to death while clinging to her mother - the 4 year old girl was standing in her own house in her living room, when a neighbours pitbull ran in and proceeded to kill and injure everyone in the room. Like I said, it was unfortunate, but things are starting to happen! Pidiots are destined to lose! of this much I am sure!
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-14/vic-couple-fight-new-dog-legislation/3830142 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-14/vic-couple-fight-new-dog-legislation/3830142)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-14/vic-couple-fight-new-dog-legislation/3830142 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-14/vic-couple-fight-new-dog-legislation/3830142)