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Afghanistan: Taliban 'hang 7-year-old boy for spying'
Lashkargah, 9 June (AKI): Taliban fighters have hanged a seven-year-old boy, claiming he was passing information to foreign soldiers in the volatile southern province of Helmand, the governor's spokesman, Daud Ahmadi, told Pajhwok Afghan News.
The child's shocking murder took place in the Sarwan Qala area of Sangin district late on Tuesday. The boy, whose name was not immediately known, was abducted from the village of Heratyan, Ahmadi said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/asia/10taliban.html
Taliban Aim at Officials in a Wave of Killings
KABUL, Afghanistan — The Taliban have been stepping up a campaign of assassinations in recent months against officials and anyone else associated with local government in an attempt to undermine counterinsurgency operations in the south.
Government assassinations are nothing new as a Taliban tactic, but now the Taliban are taking aim at officials who are much more low-level, who often do not have the sort of bodyguards or other protection that top leaders do. Some of the victims have only the slimmest connections to the authorities. The most egregious example came Wednesday in Helmand Province, where according to Afghan officials the insurgents executed a 7-year-old boy as an informant.
As the coalition concentrates on trying to build up the Afghan government in the southern province of Kandahar, a big part of that strategy depends on recruiting capable Afghan government officials who can speed delivery of aid and services to undercut support for the Taliban. The insurgents have just as busily been trying to undermine that approach, by killing local officials and intimidating others into leaving their posts.
“They read the papers; they know what we are doing,” said a NATO official here, who spoke on condition of anonymity in line with his government’s policy. “It’s very much game on between the coalition and the Taliban.”
The assassinations have been effective in slowing recruitment of government officials, he said. “Am I going to live through the workweek? No one should have to ask that question.”
Just since March, according to reports compiled by The New York Times from the police, military sources, witnesses and local government officials, there have been at least 11 assassinations in Kandahar, mostly of low-level officials. These reports, which are not complete, do not include police officers or other officials killed in more indiscriminate attacks, like suicide bombings.
Among the victims have been Mohammed Hassan Wolsi, head of the agriculture and livestock cooperative in the province, shot April 2 by a man with a pistol while buying a loaf of bread at an outdoor stall; an 18-year-old Afghan woman named Hosay, shot to death in an auto-rickshaw as she rode home from her job at DAI, an implementing partner of USAID, in Kandahar; Hajji Abdul Hay, the brother of a prominent member of Parliament, shot in the bazaar in the city; a bodyguard named Hajji Mohammed who worked for the provincial council chairman, Ahmed Wali Karzai; and a district intelligence agent, identified only as Zia, killed on a visit to the city.
The youngest victim was the 7-year-old boy, identified only as the grandson of a farmer named Qodos Khan Alokozy, from the village of Herati in the Sangin District of Helmand Province. According to Daoud Ahmadi, a spokesman for the governor’s office in Helmand, Taliban insurgents went to his village and dragged the boy from his home at 10:30 in the morning, accusing him of acting as a government informant by telling the authorities of their movements. They killed him by hanging him from a tree in the middle of the village, Mr. Ahmadi said. A spokesman for the Taliban, reached by telephone, denied that the episode took place.
Some of the victims have been more prominent, including the deputy mayor of Kandahar, Hajji Azizullah Yarmal, shot to death while he prayed in a mosque on April 19, and Abdul Majeed Babai, head of the information and culture department of Kandahar, killed in a motorcycle drive-by shooting in February.
Assassins narrowly missed in attempts to kill both Kandahar’s mayor, Ghulam Hayder Hamidi, and the Kandahar Province governor, Tooryalai Wesa, last year. Mayor Hamidi, in a recent interview during a ceremony to mark the reconstruction of a local mosque, shrugged off the risks. “When it’s time to die, no one can save me,” he said, pointing out that he travels with a modest security detail.
An exile who lived in the United States until he returned here three years ago, Mr. Hamidi said his daughter, who had come back to Afghanistan first, talked him into doing so as well. “She said you have to come here, that we cannot change the time of death and one day you will have to die and I will cry. It could just as well be from a car accident in the United States.”
The mayor acknowledged, though, that the assassination campaign had made it harder to hire government workers — a task already complicated by the low salaries offered by the Afghan government, compared with what international organizations and even the military pay qualified workers. American officials said they planned to address that by helping provide secure housing and security assistance, which low-level Afghan employees cannot afford.
The NATO official said the authorities had compiled statistics on an increase in assassination-style killings in Kandahar, but a request for that information was turned down by the American Embassy on the grounds that it was classified.
A spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force, the NATO force in Afghanistan, cautioned, however, that it was not clear whether all of the recent spate of killings could be attributed to the Taliban. “Due to lack of accurate information, it is difficult to determine if a killing is an assassination, an act of revenge or criminal activity,” Maj. Steven Cole said.
Often just the threat of assassination has been enough to drive people from their jobs. A Kandahar communications expert who worked for the International Committee of the Red Cross said he left his job after receiving a series of death threats. He asked not to be named because he feared for his life.
The expert planned to take a new job with the American-financed Afghanistan Stabilization Initiative, as the director of a program in one of the rural districts around Kandahar. Then, on April 15 two car bombings hit the program and other American-supported aid organizations, killing three Afghans and wounding dozens of Afghans and foreigners.
“My family pushed me to give it up,” he said. “I know so many people who are afraid to take jobs with the government or the aid community now. It’s a very effective and very efficient campaign; the armed opposition are using this tool because it works.”
Taimoor Shah and an Afghan employee of The New York Times contributed reporting from Kandahar, and Sharifullah Sahak from Kabul.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/asia/10taliban.html
The permanent victim status given to all Muslims leads me to believe that hanging a 7 year old is OK and justified. I suspect we'll see riots over this like there were over cartoons. LOL! ::)
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We need to pull out there and just turn the place into glass.
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Animals. >:(
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Animals. >:(
I really dont know why people are surprised any more by these beasts.
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I really dont know why people are surprised any more by these beasts.
Doesn't surprise me, unfortunately.
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The MSM and Muslims have told me that they're peaceful, tolerant people who NEVER commit violent acts and that it was Christians or Jews who hanged this child.
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This horrific act would shock anyone but being in the same sentence with "taliban" is kind of expected. These animals have surpassed the limits of barbarism and brutality.
I wonder how those who are not under the direct control of the Taliban do not actively resist them (I'm guessing maybe a portion thinks "better to have the Taliban than the Americans in our land").
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The Taliban have been and always will be a despicable group of people. Regardless of their beliefs they are a dangerous group of psychopaths with no conscience or regard for their fellow man. Their kind should be stopped as fast as possible.
It's always easy to characterize a group of people or religious belief by it's worst ambassadors or believers. It's a single minded view point that seems to have found a home in the minds of posters on this board. Sad really. But typically American, oh so typically American.
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The Taliban have been and always will be a despicable group of people. Regardless of their beliefs they are a dangerous group of psychopaths with no conscience or regard for their fellow man. Their kind should be stopped as fast as possible.
It's always easy to characterize a group of people or religious belief by it's worst ambassadors or believers. It's a single minded view point that seems to have found a home in the minds of posters on this board. Sad really. But typically American, oh so typically American.
Those damn amish!
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The Taliban have been and always will be a despicable group of people. Regardless of their beliefs they are a dangerous group of psychopaths with no conscience or regard for their fellow man. Their kind should be stopped as fast as possible.
It's always easy to characterize a group of people or religious belief by it's worst ambassadors or believers. It's a single minded view point that seems to have found a home in the minds of posters on this board. Sad really. But typically American, oh so typically American.
Hahaha, yes. Let's ignore it because it's the Taliban! Love this logic and reasoning. ::)
I do enjoy how you continually paint us as the bad guys. Not the millions of Muslims who will drop anything they're doing to riot and call for violence the second a cartoon of Mohammed gets drawn but who then can't be bothered to condemn something like this (why would they?). You're a broken record of excuses and justifications for mass murder and violence.
It's coming out now that the Chinese Uighur Muslims that rioted last year in western China were decapitating children and sticking their severed heads on highway posts (surprise, surprise, the MSM ignored this). Pick any region of the world that Islam has a foothold in and this stuff is commonplace. But you keep vilifying your fellow citizens. :-\
America - shoots 2 journalists embedded with Iraqi insurgents - America is the bad guy.
Muslims - hang a 7 year old boy for "spying" - America is the bad guy.
The world's perpetual victims and their apologists crack me up.
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The Taliban have always been bad but we (US) were in bed with them 'till the bitter end trying to negotiate a pipeline through Afghanistan.
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When did i excuse the taliban or the radical beliefs they have? Those are not the beliefs of the Muslim's i know and are friends with. By your standard i should blame them for the deaths of this child at the hands of these psychopaths, i should blame them for their fellow believers who kill wrongly in the name of their beliefs. What you see is you're perpetrating hatred just as they are. Those taliban aren't tolerant of anyone but their own, it seems you hold similar views towards anyone Muslim as you continue to group all Muslims in with the worst kinds of their faith. I tend to look at people as individuals not as a collective. it helps to perhaps explore that possibility in your own life.
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When did i excuse the taliban or the radical beliefs they have? Those are not the beliefs of the Muslim's i know and are friends with. By your standard i should blame them for the deaths of this child at the hands of these psychopaths, i should blame them for their fellow believers who kill wrongly in the name of their beliefs. What you see is you're perpetrating hatred just as they are. Those taliban aren't tolerant of anyone but their own, it seems you hold similar views towards anyone Muslim as you continue to group all Muslims in with the worst kinds of their faith. I tend to look at people as individuals not as a collective. it helps to perhaps explore that possibility in your own life.
I love how you equate posting stories of the everyday atrocities from the Muslim world to perpetrating the same hatred as they are. No, perpetrating the same hatred as them would be me blowing up vans in Muslim markets full of women and children, hanging 7 year old children, beheading civilians, throwing acid on school girls, cutting the noses and ears off of women, stoning adulterers to death, murdering homosexuals and so on and so on.
There is only one Koran. It is Allah's word. It is infallible. Amazing how many people seem to "misinterpret" the infallible, absolute word of Allah, though.
You really have no idea what you're talking about and sound like the typical Muslim parrot. "Squawk, how dare you post a news story of a Muslim atrocity, you islamophobic racist. Squawk, Muslims are peaceful. Squawk, they kill thousands every month but it's only a small fraction of a percent that act like assholes yet I can't actually substantiate that. Squawk, anti-Muslim attacks in the Western world are almost non-existent yet the west is waging war on Islam. Squawk, it's OK that leaving Islam is punishable by death and that the building of non-Muslim houses of worship is banned in most Muslim countries. Squawk, "moderate" Muslims condemn them, really. Millions of them find time to riot over a cartoon of their prophet but they're really condemning the extremists when they're nowhere to be seen after whatever tragedy du jour happened."
Go ahead, prove me wrong. Show me all the protests and rallies condemning the extremists. Surely there must be examples of millions of Muslims rioting and protesting a la the Mohammed cartoon protests against the gratuitous violence of this so-called small and isolated group of Muslims. Come on, show me. Let me see them. I won't even mention the fact that CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an un-indicted co-conspirator in a few terrorist financing cases, has NEVER denounced terrorism, suicide bombings, jihad or the implementation of Sharia Law in America. Oops. :-X ::)
Better stick to calling me a racist.
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Look at you trying to defend your stance with yet more negative views of Muslims. The Koran is not the literal 'word of god' any more than the bible is. When reading either text it is the meaning behind and of the words but in the context in which they are written that must be understood in order to have a proper understanding. Unfortunately Islam doesn't have many progressive leaders who teach this so we end up with a disproportionate amount of fundamentalist or literal view points.
Once again though you have missed the whole point, there are millions of Muslims who don't believe in the repression of woman or the killing of people or in jihad itself. Because they are not public about it or protesting doesn't mean jack sh*t. Even if it were covered by the press would you really seek out an article about Muslims helping someone or would you still seek out and post about Muslims killing someone? Instead of looking at the bigger picture you become more and more absorbed with a warped sense that because many are doing bad things, all are doing bad things.
Like i said i have more than a few Muslim friends not one of them condones jihad or riots and not one of them is a bad person. I would hope you might one day open your mind to Muslim people and find that they aren't in fact all out to kill or convert you.
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Look at you trying to defend your stance with yet more negative views of Muslims. The Koran is not the literal 'word of god' any more than the bible is. When reading either text it is the meaning behind and of the words but in the context in which they are written that must be understood in order to have a proper understanding. Unfortunately Islam doesn't have many progressive leaders who teach this so we end up with a disproportionate amount of fundamentalist or literal view points.
Once again though you have missed the whole point, there are millions of Muslims who don't believe in the repression of woman or the killing of people or in jihad itself. Because they are not public about it or protesting doesn't mean jack sh*t. Even if it were covered by the press would you really seek out an article about Muslims helping someone or would you still seek out and post about Muslims killing someone? Instead of looking at the bigger picture you become more and more absorbed with a warped sense that because many are doing bad things, all are doing bad things.
Like i said i have more than a few Muslim friends not one of them condones jihad or riots and not one of them is a bad person. I would hope you might one day open your mind to Muslim people and find that they aren't in fact all out to kill or convert you.
Again, posting legitimate facts and examples of everyday atrocities carried out by Muslims is a "negative view"? This seems to be the essence of your entire "argument" because you appear to be incapable of refuting anything I say.
Show me the examples of these people. Show me the millions of Muslims across the globe rallying for these causes, show me the protests, show me the condemnations from all these Islamic scholars. Show me the "tolerant" rioting against Islamic violence like they did when cartoons of their prophet were drawn or when Fitna was released. Come on, you claim they're all over the place. Show them. I can find thousands upon thousands upon thousands of examples to support my point. Can you do it? I doubt it. You MAY be able to find a few isolated examples to support your argument but I doubt it.
I have yet to see you EVER support your argument with anything hard. It's nothing but insults and opinion with you because you're not capable of supporting your point. Move along, parrot.
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Look at you trying to defend your stance with yet more negative views of Muslims. The Koran is not the literal 'word of god' any more than the bible is. When reading either text it is the meaning behind and of the words but in the context in which they are written that must be understood in order to have a proper understanding. Unfortunately Islam doesn't have many progressive leaders who teach this so we end up with a disproportionate amount of fundamentalist or literal view points.
Once again though you have missed the whole point, there are millions of Muslims who don't believe in the repression of woman or the killing of people or in jihad itself. Because they are not public about it or protesting doesn't mean jack sh*t. Even if it were covered by the press would you really seek out an article about Muslims helping someone or would you still seek out and post about Muslims killing someone? Instead of looking at the bigger picture you become more and more absorbed with a warped sense that because many are doing bad things, all are doing bad things.
Like i said i have more than a few Muslim friends not one of them condones jihad or riots and not one of them is a bad person. I would hope you might one day open your mind to Muslim people and find that they aren't in fact all out to kill or convert you.
all the neighbors of these slime say the same thing.
"I never would have suspected it. He seemed like such a respectful mosque going young boy"
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all the neighbors of these slime say the same thing.
"I never would have suspected it. He seemed like such a respectful mosque going young boy"
CAIR is pretty much the predominant Muslim advocacy group in this country right now and they are indeed quite powerful as a lobbyist. To this day, they refuse to denounce terrorism, jihad, suicide bombings nor have they come out and said they are against the implementation of Sharia Law in America. In-fact, they actually advocate it. They have also been caught funding terrorist groups that murder American citizens. Nothing more needs to be said of the so-called "moderates" and the apologist fucktards that can't do anything but cry racism and islamophobia.
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Again, posting legitimate facts and examples of everyday atrocities carried out by Muslims is a "negative view"? This seems to be the essence of your entire "argument" because you appear to be incapable of refuting anything I say.
Show me the examples of these people. Show me the millions of Muslims across the globe rallying for these causes, show me the protests, show me the condemnations from all these Islamic scholars. Show me the "tolerant" rioting against Islamic violence like they did when cartoons of their prophet were drawn or when Fitna was released. Come on, you claim they're all over the place. Show them. I can find thousands upon thousands upon thousands of examples to support my point. Can you do it? I doubt it. You MAY be able to find a few isolated examples to support your argument but I doubt it.
I have yet to see you EVER support your argument with anything hard. It's nothing but insults and opinion with you because you're not capable of supporting your point. Move along, parrot.
I'm not refuting that there are terrible Muslims who create heinous acts and crimes. I never have.
I claim there are millions of peace going Muslims yes, so why would these peaceful people riot? The only way to prove this conclusively would be to ask each Muslim person, an impossible task, same with your argument. It is an impossible task to prove unless you ask each Muslim person and know them. If you truly believe all Muslims are evil that is your mistake, not mine.
You are backing your argument with 'proof' of what exactly? Proof of crimes committed by terrible people who are Islamic followers and try to justify it in that vein? It shows how small minded you are to believe the acts of a few are the acts of all.
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all the neighbors of these slime say the same thing.
"I never would have suspected it. He seemed like such a respectful mosque going young boy"
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I'm not refuting that there are terrible Muslims who create heinous acts and crimes. I never have.
I claim there are millions of peace going Muslims yes, so why would these peaceful people riot? The only way to prove this conclusively would be to ask each Muslim person, an impossible task, same with your argument. It is an impossible task to prove unless you ask each Muslim person and know them. If you truly believe all Muslims are evil that is your mistake, not mine.
You are backing your argument with 'proof' of what exactly? Proof of crimes committed by terrible people who are Islamic followers and try to justify it in that vein? It shows how small minded you are to believe the acts of a few are the acts of all.
There are so many tolerant, peaceful Muslims yet the examples of these people are almost non-existent. However, there are countless examples of so-called "peaceful Muslims" acting like assholes in every single place that Muslims can be found. From the USA to North Africa to the Philippines. They all act the same. But you keep making unsubstantiated, opinionated claims while screaming racism. Really shows how well developed your point is. ::)
Keep trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the West.
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When did i excuse the taliban or the radical beliefs they have? Those are not the beliefs of the Muslim's i know and are friends with. By your standard i should blame them for the deaths of this child at the hands of these psychopaths, i should blame them for their fellow believers who kill wrongly in the name of their beliefs. What you see is you're perpetrating hatred just as they are. Those taliban aren't tolerant of anyone but their own, it seems you hold similar views towards anyone Muslim as you continue to group all Muslims in with the worst kinds of their faith. I tend to look at people as individuals not as a collective. it helps to perhaps explore that possibility in your own life.
My point is that our administrations have tacitly endorsed their insanity for years. Honor killings, beheadings, that crazy soccer shit they do, etc.... was all cool if we could get more oil until they refused to turn Bin Laden over. It's just too easy pretending we have clean hands if the past complicity is ignored.
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When did i excuse the taliban or the radical beliefs they have? Those are not the beliefs of the Muslim's i know and are friends with. By your standard i should blame them for the deaths of this child at the hands of these psychopaths, i should blame them for their fellow believers who kill wrongly in the name of their beliefs. What you see is you're perpetrating hatred just as they are. Those taliban aren't tolerant of anyone but their own, it seems you hold similar views towards anyone Muslim as you continue to group all Muslims in with the worst kinds of their faith. I tend to look at people as individuals not as a collective. it helps to perhaps explore that possibility in your own life.
My point is that our administrations have tacitly endorsed their insanity for years. Honor killings, beheadings, that crazy soccer shit they do, etc.... was all cool if we could get more oil until they refused to turn Bin Laden over. It's just too easy pretending we have clean hands if the past complicity is ignored.
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Those damn amish!
Good point! The Amish are a great example of an extremely religious group, hundreds of years behind technologically, much like the Taliban and other Muslim groups. Yet the Amish are extremely peaceful, hard working people who don't bother anybody.
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One immutable characteristic of liberals is their inability to accept the possibility that their personal philosophy or worldview is "incorrect". Any evidence that puts the kibosh on their conveniently unrealistic reality is dismissed through a laundry list of isms that are used to delay and rationalize their fear of admitting failure, or admonish those who point out inconvenient truths= relativism, racism, sexism, classism, imperialism etc.
The rationale for this behavior stems from the fundamental disconnect that exists between left and right. The left thinks everything in the world exists inside of a class room and that real world truths, however unpalatable to their inflated sense of self and smug obsession with adjectives like "justice" and "dignity" (among others) is nothing more than an evil manipulation perpatrated by the so called establishment to continue the oppression and discrimination against the "underrepresented", "poor" and "disadvantaged" in our society.
The right sees the world for what it is. And while there are certainly some things in life that do not have a simple answer, the right doesn't try to twist, distort, invent and mold the obvious into the incomprehensible.
K.C. follows the same tired mantra used by liberals to justify anything and everything heinous in the world.- "There are bad people of every race. There are bad people of every religion. There are bad people of every height, weight, hair color, sexual disposition, ethnicity, gender, and on and on and on until we have just about covered every single human being, rock, tree and insect on the planet." OK. Does that mean if there is a disproportionate number of fat people stealing candy, that we should focus on skinny people? It's that same moronic line of thinking that has grandma strip searched at the airport. It's almost as if the truth is too difficult for them to accept and that results are secondary to ideology.
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One immutable characteristic of liberals is their inability to accept the possibility that their personal philosophy or worldview is "incorrect". Any evidence that puts the kibosh on their conveniently unrealistic reality is dismissed through a laundry list of isms that are used to delay and rationalize their fear of admitting failure, or admonish those who point out inconvenient truths= relativism, racism, sexism, classism, imperialism etc.
The rationale for this behavior stems from the fundamental disconnect that exists between left and right. The left thinks everything in the world exists inside of a class room and that real world truths, however unpalatable to their inflated sense of self and smug obsession with adjectives like "justice" and "dignity" (among others) is nothing more than an evil manipulation perpatrated by the so called establishment to continue the oppression and discrimination against the "underrepresented", "poor" and "disadvantaged" in our society.
The right sees the world for what it is. And while there are certainly some things in life that do not have a simple answer, the right doesn't try to twist, distort, invent and mold the obvious into the incomprehensible.
K.C. follows the same tired mantra used by liberals to justify anything and everything heinous in the world.- "There are bad people of every race. There are bad people of every religion. There are bad people of every height, weight, hair color, sexual disposition, ethnicity, gender, and on and on and on until we have just about covered every single human being, rock, tree and insect on the planet." OK. Does that mean if there is a disproportionate number of fat people stealing candy, that we should focus on skinny people? It's that same moronic line of thinking that has grandma strip searched at the airport. It's almost as if the truth is too difficult for them to accept and that results are secondary to ideology.
Isn't that the truth. Especially when they start getting called out on to provide facts to back up the bullshit claims.
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We need to pull out there and just turn the place into glass.
Funny...they say the same thing about america
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Afghanistan: Taliban 'hang 7-year-old boy for spying'
Lashkargah, 9 June (AKI): Taliban fighters have hanged a seven-year-old boy, claiming he was passing information to foreign soldiers in the volatile southern province of Helmand, the governor's spokesman, Daud Ahmadi, told Pajhwok Afghan News.
The child's shocking murder took place in the Sarwan Qala area of Sangin district late on Tuesday. The boy, whose name was not immediately known, was abducted from the village of Heratyan, Ahmadi said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/asia/10taliban.html
Taliban Aim at Officials in a Wave of Killings
KABUL, Afghanistan — The Taliban have been stepping up a campaign of assassinations in recent months against officials and anyone else associated with local government in an attempt to undermine counterinsurgency operations in the south.
Government assassinations are nothing new as a Taliban tactic, but now the Taliban are taking aim at officials who are much more low-level, who often do not have the sort of bodyguards or other protection that top leaders do. Some of the victims have only the slimmest connections to the authorities. The most egregious example came Wednesday in Helmand Province, where according to Afghan officials the insurgents executed a 7-year-old boy as an informant.
As the coalition concentrates on trying to build up the Afghan government in the southern province of Kandahar, a big part of that strategy depends on recruiting capable Afghan government officials who can speed delivery of aid and services to undercut support for the Taliban. The insurgents have just as busily been trying to undermine that approach, by killing local officials and intimidating others into leaving their posts.
“They read the papers; they know what we are doing,” said a NATO official here, who spoke on condition of anonymity in line with his government’s policy. “It’s very much game on between the coalition and the Taliban.”
The assassinations have been effective in slowing recruitment of government officials, he said. “Am I going to live through the workweek? No one should have to ask that question.”
Just since March, according to reports compiled by The New York Times from the police, military sources, witnesses and local government officials, there have been at least 11 assassinations in Kandahar, mostly of low-level officials. These reports, which are not complete, do not include police officers or other officials killed in more indiscriminate attacks, like suicide bombings.
Among the victims have been Mohammed Hassan Wolsi, head of the agriculture and livestock cooperative in the province, shot April 2 by a man with a pistol while buying a loaf of bread at an outdoor stall; an 18-year-old Afghan woman named Hosay, shot to death in an auto-rickshaw as she rode home from her job at DAI, an implementing partner of USAID, in Kandahar; Hajji Abdul Hay, the brother of a prominent member of Parliament, shot in the bazaar in the city; a bodyguard named Hajji Mohammed who worked for the provincial council chairman, Ahmed Wali Karzai; and a district intelligence agent, identified only as Zia, killed on a visit to the city.
The youngest victim was the 7-year-old boy, identified only as the grandson of a farmer named Qodos Khan Alokozy, from the village of Herati in the Sangin District of Helmand Province. According to Daoud Ahmadi, a spokesman for the governor’s office in Helmand, Taliban insurgents went to his village and dragged the boy from his home at 10:30 in the morning, accusing him of acting as a government informant by telling the authorities of their movements. They killed him by hanging him from a tree in the middle of the village, Mr. Ahmadi said. A spokesman for the Taliban, reached by telephone, denied that the episode took place.
Some of the victims have been more prominent, including the deputy mayor of Kandahar, Hajji Azizullah Yarmal, shot to death while he prayed in a mosque on April 19, and Abdul Majeed Babai, head of the information and culture department of Kandahar, killed in a motorcycle drive-by shooting in February.
Assassins narrowly missed in attempts to kill both Kandahar’s mayor, Ghulam Hayder Hamidi, and the Kandahar Province governor, Tooryalai Wesa, last year. Mayor Hamidi, in a recent interview during a ceremony to mark the reconstruction of a local mosque, shrugged off the risks. “When it’s time to die, no one can save me,” he said, pointing out that he travels with a modest security detail.
An exile who lived in the United States until he returned here three years ago, Mr. Hamidi said his daughter, who had come back to Afghanistan first, talked him into doing so as well. “She said you have to come here, that we cannot change the time of death and one day you will have to die and I will cry. It could just as well be from a car accident in the United States.”
The mayor acknowledged, though, that the assassination campaign had made it harder to hire government workers — a task already complicated by the low salaries offered by the Afghan government, compared with what international organizations and even the military pay qualified workers. American officials said they planned to address that by helping provide secure housing and security assistance, which low-level Afghan employees cannot afford.
The NATO official said the authorities had compiled statistics on an increase in assassination-style killings in Kandahar, but a request for that information was turned down by the American Embassy on the grounds that it was classified.
A spokesman for the International Security Assistance Force, the NATO force in Afghanistan, cautioned, however, that it was not clear whether all of the recent spate of killings could be attributed to the Taliban. “Due to lack of accurate information, it is difficult to determine if a killing is an assassination, an act of revenge or criminal activity,” Maj. Steven Cole said.
Often just the threat of assassination has been enough to drive people from their jobs. A Kandahar communications expert who worked for the International Committee of the Red Cross said he left his job after receiving a series of death threats. He asked not to be named because he feared for his life.
The expert planned to take a new job with the American-financed Afghanistan Stabilization Initiative, as the director of a program in one of the rural districts around Kandahar. Then, on April 15 two car bombings hit the program and other American-supported aid organizations, killing three Afghans and wounding dozens of Afghans and foreigners.
“My family pushed me to give it up,” he said. “I know so many people who are afraid to take jobs with the government or the aid community now. It’s a very effective and very efficient campaign; the armed opposition are using this tool because it works.”
Taimoor Shah and an Afghan employee of The New York Times contributed reporting from Kandahar, and Sharifullah Sahak from Kabul.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/asia/10taliban.html
The permanent victim status given to all Muslims leads me to believe that hanging a 7 year old is OK and justified. I suspect we'll see riots over this like there were over cartoons. LOL! ::)
HANGING is an american and clearly ONLY AN AMERICA technique as no nation of people have ever shown themselves as such savages to hang their own people. Nice to see the FALSE FLAGS are still being waved. Kill a child , blame the supposed enemy, cause civil war in a nation, radicalize and religious fury ensues.... america at its finest.
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HANGING is an american and clearly ONLY AN AMERICA technique as no nation of people have ever shown themselves as such savages to hang their own people. Nice to see the FALSE FLAGS are still being waved. Kill a child , blame the supposed enemy, cause civil war in a nation, radicalize and religious fury ensues.... america at its finest.
England has hung children for stealing bread. Iran has hung children for being gay. As heinous as America can be, she does NOT have a monopoly on cruelty or heinous acts. nice try... but no cigar. ::)
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HANGING is an american and clearly ONLY AN AMERICA technique as no nation of people have ever shown themselves as such savages to hang their own people. Nice to see the FALSE FLAGS are still being waved. Kill a child , blame the supposed enemy, cause civil war in a nation, radicalize and religious fury ensues.... america at its finest.
How about you put your money where your mouth is, shill? ;)
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England has hung children for stealing bread. Iran has hung children for being gay. As heinous as America can be, she does NOT have a monopoly on cruelty or heinous acts. nice try... but no cigar. ::)
It's "hanged", you 160 IQ moron.
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England has hung children for stealing bread. Iran has hung children for being gay. As heinous as America can be, she does NOT have a monopoly on cruelty or heinous acts. nice try... but no cigar. ::)
Let straighten this out here.. First off I am talking about a LONG RECORDED HISTORY OF THAT TYPE OF EXECUTION...not the one episode here or there game...
You have your story terribly twisted. in Iran children were claimed to have raped another child of the same age...problem is it never happened. However the interrogators of the children who were claimed to have raped the child of near same age were RAPED BY THE INTERROGATORS!!!!. Sadly the two innocent boys were killed for a claim that was not true and I am sure the interrogators went on to rape more children. My point in raising HANGING (remember people are hanged things are hung) is this is a capital punishment indigenous to america, which has sadly been carried off to other lands...remember Saddam...the Iraqis would never have HANGED a person...if there is an execution it would have been done at the point of a gun.
So far as England goes...what can be expected of the ancestors of the americans who operate under the same mindset. Nonetheless hanging is still primarily the technique of america
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It's "hanged", you 160 IQ moron.
Excuse me I am the person who educated you and the rest on this board about the difference between HANGED and HUNG. Wanna break down that explanation again.?
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Let straighten this out here.. First off I am talking about a LONG RECORDED HISTORY OF THAT TYPE OF EXECUTION...not the one episode here or there game...
You have your story terribly twisted. in Iran children were claimed to have raped another child of the same age...problem is it never happened. However the interrogators of the children who were claimed to have raped the child of near same age were RAPED BY THE INTERROGATORS!!!!. Sadly the two innocent boys were killed for a claim that was not true and I am sure the interrogators went on to rape more children. My point in raising HANGING (remember people are hanged things are hung) is this is a capital punishment indigenous to america, which has sadly been carried off to other lands...remember Saddam...the Iraqis would never have HANGED a person...if there is an execution it would have been done at the point of a gun.
So far as England goes...what can be expected of the ancestors of the americans who operate under the same mindset. Nonetheless hanging is still primarily the technique of america
You're lying like a little rat again, you disinformation specialist.
Excuse me I am the person who educated you and the rest on this board about the difference between HANGED and HUNG. Wanna break down that explanation again.?
Did someone forget to switch accounts?
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Nice picture of what tolerant, peaceful Iran does with homosexuals.
(http://www.jenniferhanin.com/wordpress//wp-content/uploads/Iran-executions.jpg)
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Did someone forget to switch accounts?
Hahahahaha
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Nice picture of what tolerant, peaceful Iran does with homosexuals.
(http://www.jenniferhanin.com/wordpress//wp-content/uploads/Iran-executions.jpg)
AIDS does a better job
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Excuse me I am the person who educated you and the rest on this board about the difference between HANGED and HUNG. Wanna break down that explanation again.?
Ummmm Jaguar, you just outed yourself... :-[
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You're lying like a little rat again, you disinformation specialist.
Did someone forget to switch accounts?
No account to switch, but as expected a small number of active braincells in a overly large open cavity will see things that they want to see
BTW..Have you seen or heard from El Chapo, Space Rumsfeld or Pro Nitro??? Any chance...?
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HANGING is an american and clearly ONLY AN AMERICA technique
Ummm no...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging
The earliest known use of the word in this sense was in A.D. 1300.
# 4 Notable references by country (political)
* 4.1 Australia
* 4.2 Brazil
* 4.3 Bulgaria
* 4.4 Canada
* 4.5 Germany
* 4.6 Hungary
* 4.7 India
* 4.8 Iran
* 4.9 Iraq
* 4.10 Israel
* 4.11 Japan
* 4.12 Jordan
* 4.13 Malaysia
* 4.14 Portugal
* 4.15 Pakistan
* 4.16 Russia
* 4.17 Singapore
* 4.18 United Kingdom
o 4.18.1 Silken rope
* 4.19 United States
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Stupid fuck OUTED.
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lol...
Canada
Main article: Capital punishment in Canada
Historically, hanging was the only method of execution used in Canada and was in use as punishment for all murders until 1961, when murders were reclassified into capital and non-capital offences. The death penalty was restricted to only apply for certain offences to the National Defence Act in 1976 and was completely abolished in 1998.[18]
The last hangings in Canada took place on December 11, 1962.[17]
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Let straighten this out here.. First off I am talking about a LONG RECORDED HISTORY OF THAT TYPE OF EXECUTION...not the one episode here or there game...
You have your story terribly twisted. in Iran children were claimed to have raped another child of the same age...problem is it never happened. However the interrogators of the children who were claimed to have raped the child of near same age were RAPED BY THE INTERROGATORS!!!!. Sadly the two innocent boys were killed for a claim that was not true and I am sure the interrogators went on to rape more children. My point in raising HANGING (remember people are hanged things are hung) is this is a capital punishment indigenous to america, which has sadly been carried off to other lands...remember Saddam...the Iraqis would never have HANGED a person...if there is an execution it would have been done at the point of a gun.
So far as England goes...what can be expected of the ancestors of the americans who operate under the same mindset. Nonetheless hanging is still primarily the technique of america
I've run it over & over again, but this sentence is still confusing. What are you trying to say?
ps: hanged / hung wtf you all knew what I meant. ::) ::)
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Ummmm Jaguar, you just outed yourself... :-[
You addressed me, but quoted Samson. What is this outing you refer to?
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Ummm no...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging
The earliest known use of the word in this sense was in A.D. 1300.
# 4 Notable references by country (political)
* 4.1 Australia
* 4.2 Brazil
* 4.3 Bulgaria
* 4.4 Canada
* 4.5 Germany
* 4.6 Hungary
* 4.7 India
* 4.8 Iran
* 4.9 Iraq
* 4.10 Israel
* 4.11 Japan
* 4.12 Jordan
* 4.13 Malaysia
* 4.14 Portugal
* 4.15 Pakistan
* 4.16 Russia
* 4.17 Singapore
* 4.18 United Kingdom
o 4.18.1 Silken rope
* 4.19 United States
EYE I thought after being on this board as long as you have you would have WISED UP...I guess it didn't happen. Read the Wiki post before you post it. The people who were HANGED in most of these nations mentioned had the technique of hanging brought to their nation by america...that is why I referenced Saddam who was HANGED in Iraq. His "hangers" were americans...NOT IRAQI as you have been falsely told. The Iraqi would have shot him and that would have been the end of the matter, but that would not happen as 95 percent of the Iraqis LOVED SADDAM. America had to get the backwards Kurds to protest against Saddam to make it seem like the Iraqi were glad he was hanged. So far as all those nation you listed...waste of time...what you read was the white technique of killing the indigenous people of those nations, because they refused to be reduced to slaves...
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EYE I thought after being on this board as long as you have you would have WISED UP...I guess it didn't happen. Read the Wiki post before you post it. The people who were HANGED in most of these nations mentioned had the technique of hanging brought to their nation by america...that is why I referenced Saddam who was HANGED in Iraq. His "hangers" were americans...NOT IRAQI as you have been falsely told. The Iraqi would have shot him and that would have been the end of the matter, but that would not happen as 95 percent of the Iraqis LOVED SADDAM. America had to get the backwards Kurds to protest against Saddam to make it seem like the Iraqi were glad he was hanged. So far as all those nation you listed...waste of time...what you read was the white technique of killing the indigenous people of those nations, because they refused to be reduced to slaves...
From what I've read, hanging is a very humane way to execute people?
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From what I've read, hanging is a very humane way to execute people?
That's quite the ironic oxymoron don't you think? :D
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That's quite the ironic oxymoron don't you think? :D
lol ;D
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One immutable characteristic of liberals is their inability to accept the possibility that their personal philosophy or worldview is "incorrect". Any evidence that puts the kibosh on their conveniently unrealistic reality is dismissed through a laundry list of isms that are used to delay and rationalize their fear of admitting failure, or admonish those who point out inconvenient truths= relativism, racism, sexism, classism, imperialism etc.
The rationale for this behavior stems from the fundamental disconnect that exists between left and right. The left thinks everything in the world exists inside of a class room and that real world truths, however unpalatable to their inflated sense of self and smug obsession with adjectives like "justice" and "dignity" (among others) is nothing more than an evil manipulation perpatrated by the so called establishment to continue the oppression and discrimination against the "underrepresented", "poor" and "disadvantaged" in our society.
The right sees the world for what it is. And while there are certainly some things in life that do not have a simple answer, the right doesn't try to twist, distort, invent and mold the obvious into the incomprehensible.
K.C. follows the same tired mantra used by liberals to justify anything and everything heinous in the world.- "There are bad people of every race. There are bad people of every religion. There are bad people of every height, weight, hair color, sexual disposition, ethnicity, gender, and on and on and on until we have just about covered every single human being, rock, tree and insect on the planet." OK. Does that mean if there is a disproportionate number of fat people stealing candy, that we should focus on skinny people? It's that same moronic line of thinking that has grandma strip searched at the airport. It's almost as if the truth is too difficult for them to accept and that results are secondary to ideology.
Oh please, keep trying to justify your disgraceful beliefs that because some people commit crimes, all do. I bet you're the kind of guy who thinks all Blacks are criminals and all Hispanics are illegals too. Some of them are right? So they all must be. ::)
I like how you use pop psychology to try to pin point my world view and/or beliefs. You have as much chance of doing that as proving that every Muslim is evil.
I have yet to justify anything heinous i think you miss the whole point and my whole point of view. That is people commit heinous acts, whatever their justification it's still a heinous act. If they say it's in the name of allah it's still as bad as any other heinous act. However, i don't automatically believe that all people who follow the same beliefs are guilty of that act, nor capable of doing so. That would be stereo-typing and that would lead you down a path that opposes freedom.
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Praise to Allah & Mohamed - piss, shit, pigs blood, urine, and puke be upon them.
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Oh please, keep trying to justify your disgraceful beliefs that because some people commit crimes, all do. I bet you're the kind of guy who thinks all Blacks are criminals and all Hispanics are illegals too. Some of them are right? So they all must be. ::)
Hahaha, you are seriously a textbook pro-Muslim far-left nutjob. Equating someone's dislike for a geo-political ideology to hating blacks and hispanics. You're a broken record that can't substantiate any of the bullshit you spew, so you instead resort to personal insults and attacks. Seems to be the status quo for people on the far-left who are incapable of backing up the idiotic points they make.
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Hahaha, you are seriously a textbook pro-Muslim far-left nutjob. Equating someone's dislike for a geo-political ideology to hating blacks and hispanics. You're a broken record that can't substantiate any of the bullshit you spew, so you instead resort to personal insults and attacks. Seems to be the status quo for people on the far-left who are incapable of backing up the idiotic points they make.
How have i insulted anyone? ??? Seems to me you're on the aggressive here insulting me. I never said he hated blacks i equated his stereo-typing to that faced by blacks and hispanics a very valid real world example. I said he probably stereo types them too because he does, as you do, all Muslims.
How am i incapable of backing it up? I've told you already i have Muslim friends who condemn these actions, in turn their families and families friends are raised in the same way. How have you backed up your belief that ALL muslims are evil? Please do because all i've seen is you posting examples of heinous acts committed by some Muslims. Please post where every single Muslim condones these killings, please post evidence that every single Muslim wants you and i dead and wants to kill children. Now this can't just be some or most it has to be ALL to prove your point. So please post it up. Other wise you are tarring all with the same brush regardless of their stand on these issues.
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I still don't get how i'm so pro Muslim? I haven't said Islam is anything. I haven't commented on my personal beliefs regarding it as a religion or belief system. All i have said is that not all Muslims are the same, not all are terrorists and not all wish anyone who isn't a Muslim dead.
If you still want to believe falsely that all Muslims are somehow evil that's your decision.
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I still don't get how i'm so pro Muslim? I haven't said Islam is anything. I haven't commented on my personal beliefs regarding it as a religion or belief system. All i have said is that not all Muslims are the same, not all are terrorists and not all wish anyone who isn't a Muslim dead.
If you still want to believe falsely that all Muslims are somehow evil that's your decision.
BezerkFury labels everyone who refuses to parrot hatred for all muslims, as muslims. It's what he does. :-\
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Oh please, keep trying to justify your disgraceful beliefs that because some people commit crimes, all do. I bet you're the kind of guy who thinks all Blacks are criminals and all Hispanics are illegals too. Some of them are right? So they all must be. ::)
It's funny how you categorize my views as disgraceful and then fail miserably in offering anything resembling a factual or logical rebuttal. You then weakly resort to the most tired tactic in the liberal playbook when the truth upsets the apple cart in fantasy land--accuse someone with a superior argument of being a racist.
I like how you use pop psychology to try to pin point my world view and/or beliefs. You have as much chance of doing that as proving that every Muslim is evil.
Pop psychology? It’s just a simple and obvious observation about the common tendencies of individuals who share your worldview. I’ll tell you one thing though, if I was performing a case study to back up my argument, this thread would take the cake.
i think you miss the whole point and my whole point of view. That is people commit heinous acts, whatever their justification it's still a heinous act. If they say it's in the name of allah it's still as bad as any other heinous act. However, i don't automatically believe that all people who follow the same beliefs are guilty of that act, nor capable of doing so. That would be stereo-typing and that would lead you down a path that opposes freedom.
I don’t blame your inability to understand reality from an objective point of view on your intelligence. However, even a broken watch is correct twice a day. Your insistent refusal to acknowledge that 1+1=2 leads me to believe that my initial characterization of your beliefs is accurate. This is especially true since you are totally incapable of refuting anything I wrote without reframing the issue into something else entirely. This isn’t an “All Muslims Are Evil” debate. This is about your relentless strain to ignore the fact that a particular religion is a breeding ground for violence, oppression, hatred and the suppression of basic and fundamental freedoms. This particular religion also has what amounts to a virtual monopoly on terrorism in the world today.
When you say follow the “same beliefs” what do you mean exactly? That those who support heinous acts in the name of religion ( or, since we are in moral relativism fantasy land, in the name of cupcakes) are really just good people who shouldn’t be lumped into the same category as the misunderstood freedom fighters that carry out those heinous acts?
Please clarify this for me.
Stereotyping is a time management skill for lazy and inexperienced people. Recognizing who your enemy is, where they come from and what they believe falls into a completely different category. What you call stereotyping I call common sense and survival. Your whole worldview is predicated on committing suicide in order to propagate an infantile desire for acceptance and some lofty ideals about equality. You and your ilk kiss up to those who would no sooner chop your head off and mount it on a wall while you berate those who would die to protect you. The path that most opposes freedom is the one in which it’s travelers are so obsessed with the survival of “ideals”, that they are willing to neglect protecting themselves and their loved ones while ignoring inevitable destruction.
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hahaha i never called you a racist. Just someone inept at overcoming stereo types in their own mind.
I never said those who support heinous acts are good people. My statement about beliefs is related to the belief and following of Islam. Of being a Muslim. Not all Muslims and followers of the Islam faith are terrorists nor do all of them support the terrorists and their crimes.
Do a disproportionate amount of Islamic followers commit heinous act and or have skewed views towards the west? Yes. I have never disputed that. But to characterize each and every Muslim as evil is not 1+1=2 it's fear + misunderstand = further violence.
I don't have any will to commit suicide nor do i have any will or belief to be equal with someone wanting me dead. You seem to mistake my position here, i am for the war on extremists, i have no issue with the work going on in Afghanistan against the Taliban and i never have. I hope one day they will be eradicated but that will not happen if we treat all Muslims as if they are Taliban. That is a self fulfilling prophecy if ever there was one.
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hahaha i never called you a racist. Just someone inept at overcoming stereo types in their own mind.
I never said those who support heinous acts are good people. My statement about beliefs is related to the belief and following of Islam. Of being a Muslim. Not all Muslims and followers of the Islam faith are terrorists nor do all of them support the terrorists and their crimes.
Do a disproportionate amount of Islamic followers commit heinous act and or have skewed views towards the west? Yes. I have never disputed that. But to characterize each and every Muslim as evil is not 1+1=2 it's fear + misunderstand = further violence.
I don't have any will to commit suicide nor do i have any will or belief to be equal with someone wanting me dead. You seem to mistake my position here, i am for the war on extremists, i have no issue with the work going on in Afghanistan against the Taliban and i never have. I hope one day they will be eradicated but that will not happen if we treat all Muslims as if they are Taliban. That is a self fulfilling prophecy if ever there was one.
I would agree with everything you've said here.
The one thing I would question is whether or not a disproportionate amount of islamic followers are commiting heinous acts, ...or is a matter of a disproportionate amount of information coming our way about islamic followers is information about those who are commiting heinous acts. When you consider the population of the world, and the population of muslims throughout the world, ...I don't know that the crimes we hear about are in any way disproportionate.
Hearing about crimes committed by 150 different people out of a population of 175 is disproportionate. 150 crimes out of a population of 2 billion is hardly disproportionate. Hearing about those 150 crimes 24/7 may allow them to take on a dimension all their own tho.
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Oh please, keep trying to justify your disgraceful beliefs that because some people commit crimes, all do. I bet you're the kind of guy who thinks all Blacks are criminals and all Hispanics are illegals too. Some of them are right? So they all must be. ::)
It's funny how you categorize my views as disgraceful and then fail miserably in offering anything resembling a factual or logical rebuttal. You then weakly resort to the most tired tactic in the liberal playbook when the truth upsets the apple cart in fantasy land--accuse someone with a superior argument of being a racist.
I like how you use pop psychology to try to pin point my world view and/or beliefs. You have as much chance of doing that as proving that every Muslim is evil.
Pop psychology? It’s just a simple and obvious observation about the common tendencies of individuals who share your worldview. I’ll tell you one thing though, if I was performing a case study to back up my argument, this thread would take the cake.
i think you miss the whole point and my whole point of view. That is people commit heinous acts, whatever their justification it's still a heinous act. If they say it's in the name of allah it's still as bad as any other heinous act. However, i don't automatically believe that all people who follow the same beliefs are guilty of that act, nor capable of doing so. That would be stereo-typing and that would lead you down a path that opposes freedom.
I don’t blame your inability to understand reality from an objective point of view on your intelligence. However, even a broken watch is correct twice a day. Your insistent refusal to acknowledge that 1+1=2 leads me to believe that my initial characterization of your beliefs is accurate. This is especially true since you are totally incapable of refuting anything I wrote without reframing the issue into something else entirely. This isn’t an “All Muslims Are Evil” debate. This is about your relentless strain to ignore the fact that a particular religion is a breeding ground for violence, oppression, hatred and the suppression of basic and fundamental freedoms. This particular religion also has what amounts to a virtual monopoly on terrorism in the world today.
When you say follow the “same beliefs” what do you mean exactly? That those who support heinous acts in the name of religion ( or, since we are in moral relativism fantasy land, in the name of cupcakes) are really just good people who shouldn’t be lumped into the same category as the misunderstood freedom fighters that carry out those heinous acts?
Please clarify this for me.
Stereotyping is a time management skill for lazy and inexperienced people. Recognizing who your enemy is, where they come from and what they believe falls into a completely different category. What you call stereotyping I call common sense and survival. Your whole worldview is predicated on committing suicide in order to propagate an infantile desire for acceptance and some lofty ideals about equality. You and your ilk kiss up to those who would no sooner chop your head off and mount it on a wall while you berate those who would die to protect you. The path that most opposes freedom is the one in which it’s travelers are so obsessed with the survival of “ideals”, that they are willing to neglect protecting themselves and their loved ones while ignoring inevitable destruction.
Very well said! You can tell just how lacking their argument is when instead of choosing to prove you wrong with facts or evidence, they instead spend their time trying to paint you as a bigot and racist. It's quite amusing, to be honest.
Winston Churchill summed up KCballer's entire idiotic argument back in 1899:
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.
I would agree with everything you've said here.
The one thing I would question is whether or not a disproportionate amount of islamic followers are commiting heinous acts, ...or is a matter of a disproportionate amount of information coming our way about islamic followers is information about those who are commiting heinous acts. When you consider the population of the world, and the population of muslims throughout the world, ...I don't know that the crimes we hear about are in any way disproportionate.
Hearing about crimes committed by 150 different people out of a population of 175 is disproportionate. 150 crimes out of a population of 2 billion is hardly disproportionate. Hearing about those 150 crimes 24/7 may allow them to take on a dimension all their own tho.
Nice try, but 99.99% of terrorist acts go unreported in the MSM. There have been over 15,400 deadly, documented terrorist attacks since 9/11. Nowhere near that many have been reported on. The MSM and outright liars like you are too busy fabricating anti-Muslim crimes and claiming that anti-Islamic violence is on the rise, when all other signs point to the contrary.
Just stop already. You prove, time and time again, that you are a lying snake whose statements are not to be believed. Time and time again you just flat-out lie about anything and everything, which can be attributed to the fact that you suffer from a learning disability and are lacking in terms of intelligence.
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I would agree with everything you've said here.
The one thing I would question is whether or not a disproportionate amount of islamic followers are commiting heinous acts, ...or is a matter of a disproportionate amount of information coming our way about islamic followers is information about those who are commiting heinous acts. When you consider the population of the world, and the population of muslims throughout the world, ...I don't know that the crimes we hear about are in any way disproportionate.
Hearing about crimes committed by 150 different people out of a population of 175 is disproportionate. 150 crimes out of a population of 2 billion is hardly disproportionate. Hearing about those 150 crimes 24/7 may allow them to take on a dimension all their own tho.
Spoken like a truly deranged liberal apologist who forgot to take her anti depressant medication this morning. Why don't you switch to your feces smearing CAPITALIZED LETTER alter ego to bolster some support for your retarded position?
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Very well said! You can tell just how lacking their argument is when instead of choosing to prove you wrong with facts or evidence, they instead spend their time trying to paint you as a bigot and racist. It's quite amusing, to be honest.
Yawn. Why do you guys play the victim all the time? You have no facts to back your claim because of the impossibility of proving each persons beliefs. But hey keep pretending you're basing your decision on 'facts' that tell you all Muslims are evil. With that type of logic it's not wonder you cry victim when someone disagrees. :'(
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Spoken like a truly deranged liberal apologist who forgot to take her anti depressant medication this morning. Why don't you switch to your feces smearing CAPITALIZED LETTER alter ego to bolster some support for your retarded position?
It's amazing how much lying this woman does. Now she's claiming that we're constantly hearing about terrorist attacks. No, we don't hear about 99% of the terrorist attacks that occur on this planet every month. We hear about the most heinous and despicable ones, like the massacre of 100 Ahmadis (heard about that for all of 15 seconds while dead flotilla terrorists get 3 weeks of press) or when a 7-year-old child is hanged by the Mohammedans.
It's the same old tired, unsubstantiated trash, devoid of evidence and full of opinion-based lies.
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I still don't get how i'm so pro Muslim? I haven't said Islam is anything. I haven't commented on my personal beliefs regarding it as a religion or belief system. All i have said is that not all Muslims are the same, not all are terrorists and not all wish anyone who isn't a Muslim dead.
If you still want to believe falsely that all Muslims are somehow evil that's your decision.
BezerkFury labels everyone who refuses to parrot hatred for all muslims, as muslims. It's what he does. :-\
kcballer and jaguarenterprises, are either of you muslim?
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kcballer and jaguarenterprises, are either of you muslim?
Nope but i have a few good friends who are.
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kcballer and jaguarenterprises, are either of you muslim?
I don't know about KCballer, ...but I'm not muslim.
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kcballer and jaguarenterprises, are either of you muslim?
I've never claimed that kcballer was a Muslim. As for Jag, who gives a fuck what she says? The woman has been outed for a liar dozens of times. Do you really expect her to tell the truth now?
taqiyya (تقية - 'fear, guard against', also taghiyeh): refers to a dispensation allowing believers to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion.
The proof is in her posts.
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ok thanks for answering.
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I've never claimed that kcballer was a Muslim. As for Jag, who gives a fuck what she says? The woman has been outed for a liar dozens of times. Do you really expect her to tell the truth now?
taqiyya (تقية - 'fear, guard against', also taghiyeh): refers to a dispensation allowing believers to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion.
The proof is in her posts.
she does seem very pro-muslim but why wouldn't she just admit it? she already practically dismisses some of the terrible shit they do deflecting to jews, christians and the like.
she openly supports them, i can't figure the reason for denial?
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The proof is in her posts.
Indeed.
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she does seem very pro-muslim but why wouldn't she just admit it? she already practically dismisses some of the terrible shit they do deflecting to jews, christians and the like.
she openly supports them, i can't figure the reason for denial?
lol. Ask her if she's anti-American and see if she denies that. :)
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lol. Ask her if she's anti-American and see if she denies that. :)
Yep, and the first thing she starts claiming is that she's got close relations in the US, blah, blah, blah...
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Yep, and the first thing she starts claiming is that she's got close relations in the US, blah, blah, blah...
If you only knew the positions of power many of my family members hold in the USA you'd poop.
I have one cousin who regularly keeps tabs on family members both in the states and abroad.
I can only imagine how he must sometimes {sigh} and shake his head when he checks up on me. :D
Jimmy Carter had Billy. Bill Clinton had Roger, and my relatives have ME! Ain't family great? ;D
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If you only knew the positions of power many of my family members hold in the USA you'd poop.
I have one cousin who regularly keeps tabs on family members both in the states and abroad.
I can only imagine how he must sometimes {sigh} and shake his head when he checks up on me. :D
Jimmy Carter had Billy. Bill Clinton had Roger, and my relatives have ME! Ain't family great? ;D
That's fine. But just come clean and admit your hatred. It will keep you warm during those cold Canadian winters.
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That's fine. But just come clean and admit your hatred. It will keep you warm during those cold Canadian winters.
No hatred, ... perhaps on occasion, a touch of self-righteous, condescending contempt for certain parochial elements so prevalent in American society, ...but hatred is such a strong word.