Yay! McDoubles are back to a dollar each!

[TuHolmes]

Dont smoke. Never tried it. Never took one illegal drug in my life. Rarely drink alcohol. Maybe 1 beer in the last 8-12 months. I cant even remember the last time I drank regular soda. Diet soda is exceedingly rare.

Thus, I would prefer for my chicken nuggets to not be made from pink slime, which has a mixture of animal parts in it.  

Everything has a potential to kill you, however, youre missing the key thing here: NOT everything has the same degree or certainty to kill you. You keep forgetting its about the matter of degree and potentiality. Not all things have the potential to kill you at the same rate or to the same degree. Therefore, Id rather limit that degree to very little.

Certainly that's true, but do we have any data that can accurately determine the degree of the danger of pink slime?

I haven't seen that.

[SF1900]

Certainly that's true, but do we have any data that can accurately determine the degree of the danger of pink slime?

I haven't seen that.

Probably not, but Id rather not take that chance.   

[TuHolmes]

Probably not, but Id rather not take that chance.   

That's fair. I guess I just like chicken McNuggets.

 

[Mr.1derful]

Those were chicken nuggets. Not burgers I think. (Could be wrong of course)

Who cares though? You smoke? Ever take drugs? Any? diet sodas? Regular sodas?

Everything has potential to kill you.

You'll lick a vagina or suck a dick (I don't know your orientation) and that's fine, but some sterile pink stuff.

Ewwww.

A nonsensical cop out response.  According to your logic, there should be no oversight or accountability to ensure the safety of food products, because as you put it, everything has the potential to kill you, so who cares.  If you're fine with that, so be it, but don't expect that everyone else should live by that edict.  Go have a McDonalds burger and wash it down with some Round Up.  No one will care, but no one else will likely want to follow suit.

[Mr.1derful]

Certainly that's true, but do we have any data that can accurately determine the degree of the danger of pink slime?

I haven't seen that.

You need concrete data to convince you that ammonia washed "meat" is not healthy?  What's your view on asbestos?

[TuHolmes]

A nonsensical cop out response.  According to your logic, there should be no oversight or accountability to ensure the safety of food products, because as you put it, everything has the potential to kill you, so who cares.  If you're fine with that, so be it, but don't expect that everyone else should live by that edict.  Go have a McDonalds burger and wash it down with some Round Up.  No one will care, but no one else will likely want to follow suit.

That is ridiculous.

You are talking about food which is deemed appropriate by the FDA.

Now whether you like it or not. If something was completely wrong with the food they wouldn't be legally allowed to serve it.

To mention roundup ( a weed killer) is stupid.

[pellius]

America has some of the strictest standards in the world. Of course most everyone in most everything is going to try to cut corners. My brother-in-law is an inspector and said the large chains are the best in maintaining standards. Of drive ins in Hawaii, Mcdonald's is the best. it makes sense because if a mom and pop restaurant fails it's just on them. One MCD fails and it reflects on the entire empire and there's hell to pay.

Also, in Hawaii we don't have the selection that they do on the mainland. All I see as far as fast food burgers is Jack-in-the-Box, BK and MCK, Of course there's Taco Bell but I like my burgers. We do have a Ted's but shit their burgers start at 8 bucks and takes forever to get your order. I miss Carl Jrs. and In and Out when I was on the mainland. There was something about In and Out that made their burgers seem so fresh and zesty. Crisp cold lettuce, the burgers were piping hot like it just came off the grill instead of sitting under heating lamp. And they were fast.

Anyway, picked up another four McDoubles with extra slime. Two for the drive home and one for breakfast tomorrow and one on hand to carry throughout the day in a hunger emergency. One thing I like about McDonald's burgers is that, like cockroaches, they last forever. I had one sitting on the counter for a couple of days and 30 sec in the microwave and it was as good as new. The melted cheese gave it that extra yum.

[pellius]

BTW, my original post was not about promoting MCD, I could have easily have started a thread, "Yay! Gas is now under $3!" I didn't expect it to turn into a MCD bashing thread.

For me it's about the moral superiority of Capitalism and free market competition. That's right! I said it! I said "moral superiority" of Capitalism.

Apparently there is some kind of battle between BK and McDonald's trying to one up each other. They are in fierce competition. To survive in a free market economy (I know it's not completely free and shouldn't be) you have to please the customer. Make them happy so that they will come back. It's doesn't matter if you are in a bad mood, hate your job or just a dick; you still have to plaster that smile on your face, be courteous and polite and give good service whether you want to or not (assuming you want to keep your job).

In a culture that is so self-absorbed and narcissistic where expressing every feeling and behavior propensity to "keep it real" having to be forced to behave decently whether you want to or not is real character building. EVERYONE  should work in a service type industry at least once and food service is ideal. Your job is to make others happy regardless of how you feel. That makes for a better person and a better world.

Try to get good service at the DMV and any other government run service where they can't good out of business. If you get good service it purely at the pleasure of the employee. If not, too bad.

[Mr.1derful]

That is ridiculous.

You are talking about food which is deemed appropriate by the FDA.

Now whether you like it or not. If something was completely wrong with the food they wouldn't be legally allowed to serve it.

To mention roundup ( a weed killer) is stupid.

The same government that once claimed asbestos was safe?  Did the FDA certify pink slime safe?  There are many things the FDA has deemed safe, to later be proven very harmful.  Many things get rubber stamped.  In terms of Round Up, I wasn't being literal per say.  However, there have in fact been claims by lobbyists that Round Up is safe to drink.  Care to try it?  Don't you trust them?  As you said, many things can kill you, so who cares?  Hoist with your own petard.

[TuHolmes]

The same government that once claimed asbestos was safe?  Did the FDA certify pink slime safe?  There are many things the FDA has deemed safe, to later be proven very harmful.  Many things get rubber stamped.  In terms of Round Up, I wasn't being literal per say.  Evidently, sarcasm is lost on you.  However, there have in fact been claims by lobbyists that Round Up is safe to drink.  Care to try it?  Don't you trust them?  As you said, many things can kill you, so who cares?  Hoist with your own petard.

Asbestos saved a lot of lives and as technology has advanced, they determined it was more harmful than good... So they removed it from houses. Same with lead in paint and gasoline, (lead in gasoline is actually safer, but that's an entirely different conversation)

Doesn't stop you from having asbestos in your car... Yes, you do.

Sarcasm isn't lost on me, but we are having what I thought was a serious conversation, so to bring sarcasm into it, makes no sense.

Lobbyists certainly claim a lot of things, but while the Fed is shitty about a lot of things, they would not deem it a food. You're seriously trying to compare food to a weed killer.

Unbelievable.

[Mr.1derful]

Asbestos saved a lot of lives and as technology has advanced, they determined it was more harmful than good... So they removed it from houses. Same with lead in paint and gasoline, (lead in gasoline is actually safer, but that's an entirely different conversation)

Doesn't stop you from having asbestos in your car... Yes, you do.

Sarcasm isn't lost on me, but we are having what I thought was a serious conversation, so to bring sarcasm into it, makes no sense.

Lobbyists certainly claim a lot of things, but while the Fed is shitty about a lot of things, they would not deem it a food. You're seriously trying to compare food to a weed killer.

Unbelievable.

What do they put Round Up on?  Get the picture? 

[pellius]

We have neither free markets, nor capitalism.  Crony capitalism at best.

Seriously, STFU already. You seem to have a lot of unresolved issues. Can't believe how personally you took a tongue in cheek thread. Have you posted a pic to show what great shape your McDonald's free body is?

McDonald's lowered the price of their burgers not because they care about you or me paying lower prices. It's because of competition from other drive ins. That's capitalism. That's free market competition. And that's the only reason why they did it and why they are allowed to do it. That's a fact.

"'Crony' capitalism at best." Oh brother.

[wes]

I went into town today after about a week at home due to the holidays and my friggin` car being stuck in my driveway due to ice.


Thought of this thread,went to Mickeydees and the mutherfocker was closed down.........they`re gonna` build a new one soon the sign said and it`s only one in tinytown USA.  

I miss the city at times like this.

[pellius]

Asbestos saved a lot of lives and as technology has advanced, they determined it was more harmful than good... So they removed it from houses. Same with lead in paint and gasoline, (lead in gasoline is actually safer, but that's an entirely different conversation)

Doesn't stop you from having asbestos in your car... Yes, you do.

Sarcasm isn't lost on me, but we are having what I thought was a serious conversation, so to bring sarcasm into it, makes no sense.

Lobbyists certainly claim a lot of things, but while the Fed is shitty about a lot of things, they would not deem it a food. You're seriously trying to compare food to a weed killer.

Unbelievable.

This guy is an obvious kook. He's the type of guy who claims that there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans and that the President is "selected" and not elected.

Pats himself on the back for banning DDT while millions die of malaria.

Why kind of person goes into such a rage over a thread on McDoubles.

At my age, I've had a bunch of relatives die over the years. All in their mid to late 80s. None of them paid any attention to diet, some smoked, none exercised. Consumed every chemical in foods all their lives. Not a single one died of cancer. If anything, they all looked younger than their years because of all the preservatives they put in food.

I am very pro pesticides and preservatives. The alternative is rotten food or bug infested foods.

[10pints]

Pellius,

I would be interested to learn what you mean when you say "moral superiority of capitalism". What is it morally superior to, and why?

[Mr.1derful]

Seriously, STFU already. You seem to have a lot of unresolved issues. Can't believe how personally you took a tongue in cheek thread. Have you posted a pic to show what great shape your McDonald's free body is?

McDonald's lowered the price of their burgers not because they care about you or me paying lower prices. It's because of competition from other drive ins. That's capitalism. That's free market competition. And that's the only reason why they did it and why they are allowed to do it. That's a fact.

"'Crony' capitalism at best." Oh brother.

If we have free markets, please explain the existence of such measures as ZIRP and quantitative easing.  Was it the free market when McDonalds was allowed to illegally raise prices during price controls, while their competition was not?  Another fail on your part it would seem.  Or would you prefer to call it a "McFail"?

[SF1900]

If we have free markets, please explain the existence of such measures as ZIRP and quantitative easing.  Was it the free market when McDonalds was allowed to illegally raise prices during price controls, while their competition was not?  Another fail on your part it would seem.  Or would you prefer to call it a "McFail"?

Lmao at "McFail."

[pellius]

Pellius,

I would be interested to learn what you mean when you say "moral superiority of capitalism". What is it morally superior to, and why?

Socialism.

As I thought I thoroughly explained, with Capitalism your survival is based on making your customers happy. No matter how you, yourself feel: whether you like the customer or not, whether you are in a bad mood, whether you are tired.... you have to rise above your own selfish, personal, self absorbed, preoccupation and act decently and politely. Without competition it doesn't matter how you treat a customer. Where else are they going to go.

Putting your own personal feelings aside to act decently and make other people happy is a moral act in my book.

[pellius]

If we have free markets, please explain the existence of such measures as ZIRP and quantitative easing.  Was it the free market when McDonalds was allowed to illegally raise prices during price controls, while their competition was not?  Another fail on your part it would seem.  Or would you prefer to call it a "McFail"?

Oh brother, now you're bringing up monetary policy. And exactly when was "price controls" in say the last 20 years been imposed on McDonalds?

You have no credibility. You simply lied about pink slime and the ingredients contained in McDonald's burgers TODAY. You do it because you have some kind of agenda.

Again, can you please post a picture to show us what kind of great physical shape you must be in by studiously avoiding the fake, poison food that is McDonald's? I notice all those people giving lectures on the evils of McDonald's looks like shit.

BTW, what part of "not completely free" don't you understand?

"To survive in a free market economy (I know it's not completely free and shouldn't be) you have to please the customer."

[pellius]

Lmao at "McFail."

So do you plan on spending less time on bbing forums and other bber's social media and actually go to the gym this year?

[The True Adonis]

A nonsensical cop out response.  According to your logic, there should be no oversight or accountability to ensure the safety of food products, because as you put it, everything has the potential to kill you, so who cares.  If you're fine with that, so be it, but don't expect that everyone else should live by that edict.  Go have a McDonalds burger and wash it down with some Round Up.  No one will care, but no one else will likely want to follow suit.

Look you moron,

Every single thing you posted is not even remotely true and is totally false which is why I won't even bother with trying to educate you.  You are one of those severe lost causes that would rather believe in fiction rather than fact.

You are dangerous though as you spread false bullshit to others and there are a ton of morons like you, who will believe it as well.  Its too bad people like you reproduce at a faster rate than those that aren't so fucking stupid.

[MAXX]

garbage foods... 20% fat in the burgers

only eat lean red meat

[Mr.1derful]

Look you moron,

Every single thing you posted is not even remotely true and is totally false which is why I won't even bother with trying to educate you.  You are one of those severe lost causes that would rather believe in fiction rather than fact.

You are dangerous though as you spread false bullshit to others and there are a ton of morons like you, who will believe it as well.  Its too bad people like you reproduce at a faster rate than those that aren't so fucking stupid.

Testy, testy.  Grumpy because your calorie is a calorie theory is rubbish?  Troll harder, I mean try harder.

[pellius]

Certainly that's true, but do we have any data that can accurately determine the degree of the danger of pink slime?

I haven't seen that.

Don't like something, just give it a bad name. For example, "Obama Care". If you like it then you call it the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act".

I'm sure SPAM isn't made from the choice cuts of meat. I heard it's the scraps sweep off the floor in a meat processing plant. People have been eating since WW2. If it kills you, it's killing you slowly. But that probably applies to everything.

[pellius]

garbage foods... 20% fat in the burgers

only eat lean red meat

There is nothing inherently wrong with fat. Unlike carbs, it is absolutely necessary for human life. it is the most caloric dense macro nutrient with twice the amount of calories than the other two macros.

When a person talks about "junk food" like fried chicken, Big Macs, French Fries they are talking about fat. After all, what's the difference between the bake potatoes that Coleman was constantly eating in his "Unbelievable" video and French Fries? The only difference is that French Fries has more fat and therefore more calories. But then you have to accept the notion that fat and calories are inherently bad.

It may be bad to a lot of people because they abuse calories. They take in too much of it and fat is blamed as the main culprit because gram for gram it is the most caloric efficient. More energy for your buck. So it's bad in the sense that most people are fat and need to consume less calories and therefore should choose foods with less calories (bake potato over fries). So a good way to do it is to consume less fat. Eat a bake potato instead of a potato sliced and boiled in fat.

If you are skinny and want to gain weight or you live in a poor country it would be much wiser to choose french fries over an equal portion of bake potato or fried chicken over chicken breast. Even 80% lean over 92% lean ground beef.

Just like there isn't anything like fake food, it's either food or it isn't, I don't really believe in the concept of junk food. High caloric food isn't junk per se but probably a food you should avoid if you are fat because that means you can eat more quantity of low caloric foods (also erroneously referred to as "clean" foods) and therefore fill yourself up and not get hungry as fast and consume less calories with an equal quantity of high calorie food.

BTW, there's a reason why fatty foods taste better than lean foods. Why a "juicy" (high fat) steak taste better than a lean (therefore dry)
cut. It's because biologically we haven't change much in centuries. We are programmed to favor the more caloric efficient (fatty) foods. It did us good back in the days before we had McDonald's and $1 McDoubles.