Directed at you, no...directed at several of the GH15 followers, absolutely. I don't have any problem with you, from what I can tell, an idiot is the last thing I'd call you. And I don't have any problem with what you're referring to as "extreme" I was in that boat for many years and never came off, and if I could go back I still wouldn't come off. Big cycles with testosterone cruises...I did that for a long time.
My problem is when people talk about things on this board that just give steroid users a bad name; things that prove the anti-steroid crowd right, that we're a bunch of idiots. For example, Masteron year round, this is guaranteed prostate enlargement and to go on bragging about an idiotic choice, it just chaffs my ass a little bit.
All-in-all, my problem is also those who can't think for themselves...if GH15 wants to say this or that I don't have any problem with that, but the repeated echo is annoying. A few wks ago, GH15 replied to a comment of mine and that G101 or whatever his name is replied as well and his reply was as always almost verbatim what GH15 had said...it's annoying and there are hundreds here just like him.
Does GH15 make some good points, sure...does he say things I disagree with, absolutely but the idiotic sheep mentality that he has created by a bunch of members, most who will probably never step on stage or consider it is beyond annoying and it sends a message to the rest of the world that's damaging to the overall cause.
Last thing, again, I have no problem with you, I read a lot of your post and I'm glad you're here.
yeah i totally agree with you arnold actually. and i am sorry i got defensive. some of the talk on this board does make me raise my eyebrows, specifically in regards to extremes. there is a lot of
no cardio,
no clean diet,
always tren year round, etc'. a lot of these points are simply exaggerations of solid ideas that have simply been possessed by a mob mentality, and converted into black and white "truths", rather than what they really are- grey area.
for example, the assertion that cardio is unnecessary is not accurate from a big picture view. guys in the golden era of bodybuilding were known to do 30-60 minutes a day. i have read this in many autobiographies. yes, they were much smaller than the guys today. but let's be serious now- ignoring cardio in entirety is something that can kill you. it is counterintuitive to the premise that much of the thunder dome supports, being that hormones make you super human (and the extreme version of this that i have read here, is that hormones make you immune to HIV, etc'). if you are 275 lbs and 5'10'' and you ignore your cardio, you can die at any moment.
the next assertion that i want to dispute is that eating a fully dirty diet is the only way to grow, especially on GH. there is no way i can support this. if you are eating hawaiian pizzas and ice cream all day, you are not going to be in good health. i don't care what you physically appear like. diet is an area that is GREY, not black and white. you can eat relatively clean (meat, brown rice, some vegetables, oatmeal, egg whites, fish, etc') and still grow. trust me. i lived my life doing this and i am over 220 @ 5.5% right now, and i am under 6 foot. of course you can eat a lot of dirty food on anabolics and gh. just not all the time. i personally have many, many cheat meals through the week. but the assertion that you can and should eat dirty all of the time does not vibe well with me. i personally know pros in the area, and members who know me can back me on this, who eat relatively clean. these are PROS. brown rice, lots of meat, vegetables and YES cheat meals. but there are egg whites, oatmeal, fish, meat, etc' in that diet too.
one of the things that is a black and white area that i commend this website for getting very, very right is that alcohol and narcotics are a HUGE no in this sport. i never drink, ever. i haven't had one drink in god knows how long. and i have literally witnessed 2 bodybuilders who i knew die in the past year and a half from narcotic over doses. one was close to me. this is not a grey area. drinking + hormones (especially tren.. i can not emphasize this enough, that alcohol + tren equals institutionalization of the bodybuilder; jail, hospital or morgue) does not mix. and the worst thing are the opiate pain killers. this is a KILLER among the bodybuilding community. so many of us are secretly addicted to oxycontin, vicodin and percocet for the energy, because it is simply unnatural to walk around at the weights that some of us do. do not argue with me on this. hormones do not mix with opiate pain killers or alcohol, and i am not even getting into the cocaine, ecstasy, and other narcotics that so many bodybuilders are dependent on. i commend this site for promoting awareness on this subject ( a lot of boards DO NOT share this attitude).
i have other issues i want to write about and personally debunk, but right now i have to go to bed, because i have a pregnant girlfriend and my time on get big is no longer as plentiful as it was months ago. but i still get on here when i can because i love this section specifically. believe it or not, i have only been on G and O once, and it is just not my style. i'm not here to joke around. hormones is serious to me, and in fact i would probably martyr myself if i could make them legal for the greater good of the cult.
