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Title: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 21, 2013, 07:13:19 PM
I know its not respected when guys only train certain parts. But really, these are the parts that need to catch up so I was wondering your guys' thoughts on this....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: WOOO on March 21, 2013, 07:14:45 PM
I know its not respected when guys only train certain parts. But really, these are the parts that need to catch up so I was wondering your guys' thoughts on this....

do what you feel
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 21, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
do what you feel

yeah I'm thinking I'll be able to train them more often perhaps causing some growth. I would also be ok if other muscles atrophied somewhat to give these ones the appearance of being a little larger...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Yev33 on March 21, 2013, 09:37:04 PM
It's one thing when someone who is just starting out only wants to train certain bodyparts. It's a whole different story when it's someone who has been training for a long time and has legitimate weak points that need to be addressed.

Go for it and see how it works out.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 03:19:33 AM
i would still train the other bodyparts too and go in a maintenance mode. I would still hit back and legs with some basic exercises and if your exercise selection is good you will get enough stimulation from exercises like parallel bar dips in your arm training because even your lats will receive attention.I agree with what the guys wrote and you are a Pro so donīt think we can really tell you much.. you teach us  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 05:40:52 AM
 ;D ;D ;D

come on man! if you're taking a jab at me just come out with it lol

or since you got my pics did you all the sudden think that you were me :D :D :D

but seriously, i'm gonna kinda do the same thing now, except i will still train squats and rows, but i will only train them at a maintenance level

my plan is to just train curls, weighted push-ups, rows, squats and weighted crunches but keep the squats, rows and weighted crunches at the same training loads while really trying to jack up my curl and weighted push-up training loads, so you will indeed see my progress or lack thereof when i send you my update pics brother 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 06:46:47 AM
LOL @ dj thinking this might of been about him  ;D

Thanks for the replies guys.

I always trained everything from the get go but we all have those parts that just don't respond as well it seems. I think I've given up on this trying to get bigger thing for now and its about time because I'm having a hard time walking through doors due to my massive width  ;D.

No but seriously, the parts I mentioned are the ones that need more work and I'm ok with just maintaining everything else.

But one question...

is there a way I can train other muscles without causing hypertrophy...I'd hate to give up back training especially  ???

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 06:52:14 AM
LOL @ dj thinking this might of been about him  ;D

Thanks for the replies guys.

I always trained everything from the get go but we all have those parts that just don't respond as well it seems. I think I've given up on this trying to get bigger thing for now and its about time because I'm having a hard time walking through doors due to my massive width  ;D.

No but seriously, the parts I mentioned are the ones that need more work and I'm ok with just maintaining everything else.

But one question...

is there a way I can train other muscles without causing hypertrophy...I'd hate to give up back training especially  ???


how do you train now? what kind of split are you using. Maybe you just need to change your training approach and shock the weak muscles.when people think of weak muscle groups they fall into the trap of more is better. My approach has always been to analyze my training and change reps,sets,training principles and even the order of training.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 07:08:37 AM
how do you train now? what kind of split are you using. Maybe you just need to change your training approach and shock the weak muscles.when people think of weak muscle groups they fall into the trap of more is better. My approach has always been to analyze my training and change reps,sets,training principles and even the order of training.

I've always periodized my training donny. I tried the training arms and calves 3x a week with lighter weights more volume, tried heavier weights with less reps 1 time week...then 2 x. Chest has been kind of hard for me to train as often do to shoulder tendonitis.

Changing order of exercises I never placed much emphasis on I must admit.

Right now I've cut back on the volume considerably. I'm doing one set to failure on any exercise doing no more than 2 exercises per muscle training every muscle once every 4-5 days. I was severely overtrained prior to this. I'm opened to suggestions you may have ...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 07:18:53 AM
But one question...

is there a way I can train other muscles without causing hypertrophy...I'd hate to give up back training especially  ???



yes there is, don't increase the training loads on those exercises that you want to maintain and not gain size on

and yes, it is as simple as that ;)

don't believe me? well wait until i send my update pics in 3-4 weeks and you'll see that my lats have remained the same size while my bis and chest will be bigger ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 07:33:25 AM
yes there is, don't increase the training loads on those exercises that you want to maintain and not gain size on

and yes, it is as simple as that ;)

don't believe me? well wait until i send my update pics in 3-4 weeks and you'll see that my lats have remained the same size while my bis and chest will be bigger ;)

I like the confidence  8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 07:56:12 AM
If it was me i would take a break from training...no weights for at least 2 weeks. Do some cardio and swim. You sound like you said overtrained and stale. with regards to training train each muscle1x a week after your break then need to in my opinion train the target muscles as efficient as possible. I know no better way than pre exhaust...yes i go on about supersets and pre exhaust all the time.. but you can really target the muscle group as best you can. If just using massive weights was the solution we would all be mr O. The size you have i am sure as a pro but pre exhaust is in my humble opinion helps you focus on the target better, physically and mental. The first thing is take a break NO TRAINING.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 08:24:34 AM
If it was me i would take a break from training...no weights for at least 2 weeks. Do some cardio and swim. You sound like you said overtrained and stale. with regards to training train each muscle1x a week after your break then need to in my opinion train the target muscles as efficient as possible. I know no better way than pre exhaust...yes i go on about supersets and pre exhaust all the time.. but you can really target the muscle group as best you can. If just using massive weights was the solution we would all be mr O. The size you have i am sure as a pro but pre exhaust is in my humble opinion helps you focus on the target better, physically and mental. The first thing is take a break NO TRAINING.

 ;D

Are there any good resources you would recommend where I could look into a good preexhaust method/routines donny?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 08:51:04 AM
;D

Are there any good resources you would recommend where I could look into a good preexhaust method/routines donny?
well you know all the exercises. I got my ideas from speaking to Bob Kennedy on the phone and really just thinking about anatomy. I think this is the most important point. A lot of trainers just give advice without really understanding what happens in any exercise.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 08:59:10 AM
well you know all the exercises. I got my ideas from speaking to Bob Kennedy on the phone and really just thinking about anatomy. I think this is the most important point. A lot of trainers just give advice without really understanding what happens in any exercise.

Just wanna make sure I got a good idea of what pre exhaust really is. Ok so if I'm training tris for example I would do something like a cable pressdown before  a close grip bench correct?

and maybe tris before chest and bis before back...

Also, what are your thoughts on going to failure?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 09:01:52 AM
Also, what are your thoughts on going to failure?

stay well away from failure, and be sure to decrease your training loads :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 09:05:22 AM
stay well away from failure, and be sure to decrease your training loads :D :D :D

In a caloric surplus I can see some growth happening.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 09:10:15 AM
In a caloric surplus I can see some growth happening.

fuck! i wish that was true, but it NEVER happened that way for me EVER :'(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 09:11:52 AM
fuck! i wish that was true, but it NEVER happened that way for me EVER :'(


Well its not gonna happen on a diet of muffins and coca cola  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 09:16:01 AM
Well its not gonna happen on a diet of muffins and coca cola  ;D

well man, i replaced the coke with eggs and the muffins with beef soup ;)

although last nite i did eat a bit of pizza and washed it down with a half a liter of coke and woke up wit my waist being down a full 3 cm (which is about 1.25 inches lost over a 10 day period) ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 09:33:42 AM
Just wanna make sure I got a good idea of what pre exhaust really is. Ok so if I'm training tris for example I would do something like a cable pressdown before  a close grip bench correct?

and maybe tris before chest and bis before back...

Also, what are your thoughts on going to failure?
well ok your having a bit of fun here because this is all basics..but to answer your questions, the idea of pre exhaust is to get around a weak link such as say triceps in bench press. you would do say DB flyes and then bench press.. the idea is that your chest is better trained taking triceps out the equation in flyes so then the chest is better isolated(wait for the critics here who will say BS) with flyes you would then stimulate the pecs better with bench press. The weight in your bench will drop but because of the flyes you will get stimulation much quicker in the pecs and more direct. your second point of training triceps before chest is not what i mean or is biceps before back what i mean. this is not logical and you would never do this. Remember we are talking about training 1 muscle group. I have pre exhausted my biceps say with preacher curls then close grip chins but this is not training back but biceps.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 09:34:20 AM
well man, i replaced the coke with eggs and the muffins with beef soup ;)

although last nite i did eat a bit of pizza and washed it down with a half a liter of coke and woke up wit my waist being down a full 3 cm (which is about 1.25 inches lost over a 10 day period) ;D

I ate A LOT of cake last night  :D

And yeah your diet is looking a hell of a lot better now.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 09:39:21 AM
well ok your having a bit of fun here because this is all basics..but to answer your questions, the idea of pre exhaust is to get around a weak link such as say triceps in bench press. you would do say DB flyes and then bench press.. the idea is that your chest is better trained taking triceps out the equation in flyes so then the chest is better isolated(wait for the critics here who will say BS) with flyes you would then stimulate the pecs better with bench press. The weight in your bench will drop but because of the flyes you will get stimulation much quicker in the pecs and more direct. your second point of training triceps before chest is not what i mean or is biceps before back what i mean. this is not logical and you would never do this. Remember we are talking about training 1 muscle group. I have pre exhausted my biceps say with preacher curls then close grip chins but this is not training back but biceps.

ok ....got it.

Thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 09:41:39 AM
ok ....got it.

Thanks for the explanation.
my pleasure.. but i am sure you know all this and more... ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 09:48:53 AM
my pleasure.. but i am sure you know all this and more... ;D

I'm not here to waste anyone's time donny especially you. I haven't really put much thought into my training over the years to be honest with ya. Just went to the gym lift some weights...go by how I feel and ate pretty well. I'm like bizarro dj181 where I've put all my emphasis on diet whereas he's only concerned himself with the training aspect.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 09:56:39 AM
I'm not here to waste anyone's time donny especially you. I haven't really put much thought into my training over the years to be honest with ya. Just went to the gym lift some weights...go by how I feel and ate pretty well. I'm like bizarro dj181 where I've put all my emphasis on diet whereas he's only concerned himself with the training aspect.

lol

so we need to combine forces then and create the ultimate bizarro :D

i'll be bizarro trainer and you'll be bizarro "dieter" while 15 can be bizarro druggie, and then we'd be able to cover all 3 bases ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 10:03:43 AM
lol

so we need to combine forces then and create the ultimate bizarro :D

i'll be bizarro trainer and you'll be bizarro "dieter" while 15 can be bizarro druggie, and then we'd be able to cover all 3 bases ;D

LMAO  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 10:44:37 AM
I'm not here to waste anyone's time donny especially you. I haven't really put much thought into my training over the years to be honest with ya. Just went to the gym lift some weights...go by how I feel and ate pretty well. I'm like bizarro dj181 where I've put all my emphasis on diet whereas he's only concerned himself with the training aspect.
sorry if i sounded disrespectful. I know you Pros work hard to get where you are. I am a guy who trains for my fitness and enjoy training people. I would never reach the ranking you have. I have built muscle and fitness that i am happy with for me.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
sorry if i sounded disrespectful. I know you Pros work hard to get where you are. I am a guy who trains for my fitness and enjoy training people. I would never reach the ranking you have. I have built muscle and fitness that i am happy with for me.


I'll let this one slide donny but don't let it happen again.



















 ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 02:35:24 PM
thank you  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 02:50:49 PM
why not.

but you know my theory on why one should train legs.i totaly hate it, i fear it actually,haha, but its useful


I used to hate squats but now i love them. I like the feeling of overall fatigue..i have after a hard set seen white stars before my eyes... now super set squats with stiff deads and you will know pain.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 22, 2013, 02:53:39 PM
why not.

but you know my theory on why one should train legs.i totaly hate it, i fear it actually,haha, but its useful



you're gonna have to refresh my memory

I used to hate squats but now i love them. I like the feeling of overall fatigue..i have after a hard set seen white stars before my eyes... now super set squats with stiff deads and you will know pain.

I love the stiff legged deadlifts...one of my favourite exercises. Squats on the other hand ...not so much.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 22, 2013, 02:58:55 PM
legs? what are those ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 22, 2013, 03:04:10 PM
legs? what are those ???
having a solid base is key,,to a bodybuilder,,boxer ,,, anyone. your lower body must be trained for overall power and strength. we are not looking for a weekend upper body here. my kicking in wado ryu and even Ving Tsun went through the roof with squats. lack of flexibility...no way power yes.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2013, 03:08:02 PM
train legs bc its the biggest muscles on them, by having some meat on the legs, metabolism rate at rest and sleep and when moving will quite increase,thus, making dieting easier.

as for not training say, shoulders, its ok to skip shoulder workouts at times,i do that too, but eventually they will be the weak link when doing bench press,for example.

no matter how you turn it, have to train everything at times :D



does the same thing go for calves :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 23, 2013, 03:39:01 PM
train legs bc its the biggest muscles on them, by having some meat on the legs, metabolism rate at rest and sleep and when moving will quite increase,thus, making dieting easier.

as for not training say, shoulders, its ok to skip shoulder workouts at times,i do that too, but eventually they will be the weak link when doing bench press,for example.

no matter how you turn it, have to train everything at times :D



hey yeah that makes sense...metabolism. Good point.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2013, 03:47:06 PM
hey yeah that makes sense...metabolism. Good point.

do like i do, train them for maintenance and not for gaining

it will help metabolism and burn some extra cals but it won't be some taxing enough to take away too much of your energy reserves for arms, chest and calves

btw, how about you and i have a little contest to see who can add the most lean muscle tissue to their arms and pecs ;)

i bet that i'll win 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 23, 2013, 04:17:24 PM
SpongeBob never worked legs now has bowel control problems.

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2013, 04:20:01 PM
SpongeBob never worked legs now has bowel control problems.



so do you want in on this pec and arm gaining contest chump? (J/K man :D :D :D)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 23, 2013, 04:22:53 PM
so do you want in on this pec and arm gaining contest chump? (J/K man :D :D :D)
No I'll watch from the sidelines, after judging the Getbig contest I am out of breath. I'll judge this too if accepted to.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 23, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
No I'll watch from the sidelines, after judging the Getbig contest I am out of breath. I'll judge this too if accepted to.

well man, if boraccho will accept the challenge then you and njflex could be the 2 judges :)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 23, 2013, 07:27:06 PM
well man, if boraccho will accept the challenge then you and njflex could be the 2 judges :)
sure,, time frame?when?borracho is put together,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2013, 03:12:22 AM
sure,, time frame?when?borracho is put together,,,

waiting for his answer on here, but if he agrees i say starting ASAP and for 6 weeks

i've already put size on my bis and pecs, even on my lo-cal "diet" ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 07:23:02 AM
I'm thinking.....doable but I'd be more interested in seeing who could lose the most body fat. I'm really trying to get over this obsession with getting bigger dj I don't care if I end up looking skinny like you lol

just fucking with ya dude  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: anabolichalo on March 24, 2013, 07:35:58 AM
training thighs and back is pretty much useless

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 07:56:02 AM
is that really you in the avatar halo?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: anabolichalo on March 24, 2013, 07:57:41 AM
is that really you in the avatar halo?

yes i've been found out
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 07:59:48 AM
yes i've been found out

You look like a nice kid...what are you doing slumming it up around here?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: anabolichalo on March 24, 2013, 08:02:48 AM
You look like a nice kid...what are you doing slumming it up around here?
shit posting on bb boards is the most satisfying activity
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 08:07:48 AM
shit posting on bb boards is the most satisfying activity

this is true
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 24, 2013, 08:13:22 AM
this is true
So are you going to take on dj181 in a posedown? You are bigger than him looking at both of your pics but criteria seems to be leanness and symmetry not size.  He has asked me to be a judge. I judged the GB contest with chaos and Xerces around 200 or so physiques. So you two let me know.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2013, 08:52:50 AM
I'm thinking.....doable but I'd be more interested in seeing who could lose the most body fat. I'm really trying to get over this obsession with getting bigger dj I don't care if I end up looking skinny like you lol

just fucking with ya dude  ;D

allright man, so we could have a "who is leanest contest then" ;)

i've already dropped 3 cm off my waist and my ab skinfold has gone down 2 mm

i predict that i hit sub-7 by April 15th 8)

and i will be @ sub-7 with bigger arms and chest, just you wait and see ma man ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 08:59:37 AM
allright man, so we could have a "who is leanest contest then" ;)

i've already dropped 3 cm off my waist and my ab skinfold has gone down 2 mm

i predict that i hit sub-7 by April 15th 8)

and i will be @ sub-7 with bigger arms and chest, just you wait and see ma man ;)

April 15 it is.

 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
April 15 it is.

 8)

deal 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: jpm101 on March 24, 2013, 09:43:17 AM
Borracho, suggesting a different approach form most regular BB'ing training.

Might suggest GVT for the chest. That's 10X10's  (total a 100 reps)  With the used of DB's, rather than a regular bar, because of the better stretch on the pec's. Also touching the DB's together, each rep at the top position, with a 1 or 2 second pause. This brings more of a contraction (stress..the good kind) on the pec's and there natural function of crossing the arms in front of the body.

Reminding you that the GVT style is to use a lighter weight throughout the whole 100 rep total. Example: 200lbs might seem that kids stuff at first for the first couple of sets, but after that it can be  very taxing. 90 to 12o  seconds rest between sets. If finding that you can't get a true 10 reps for the final 2 or 3 sets, that start with a lower weight that the original 200lbs.

Arms: Find that quad sets work very well for arm work  (and with most other body parts), if a shock factor is the main purpose.

Example biceps;

1) BB curl (slight cheat)
2) Standing Hammer DB curls
3) Incline DB curls
4) Preacher bench curls (two or one handed)....All movements are 7-9 reps. Preform two quad sets, with no rest between exercises. 2 to 3 minutes rest between cycles.

Same idea for the triceps, 4 exercises (quads), same protocol starting with a heavier exercise to a lighter, more focused (some use the term isolation, though really not possible in the strict sense of the word) movement.

Calves: Many guy's I have knows have had good luck with doing a couple sets of calf raises, every hour on the hour, throughout the day. Rather than the standard 5 or 6 sets in a regular gym workout. The throughout the day calf work will usually involve 6 to 8 times during a day.  Try that two days in a row, take 2 or 3 days off and that the 2 days in a row thing.

As for the rest of the body, three sets of regular leg, back, delt work should be enough. Don't know if your running a cycle now or if you have been training like most Pro's (hitting the middle portion ROM only) but, anyway, just a few suggestions for whatever they may be worth. Good Luck.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 09:58:09 AM
^ Hey that looks really neat  :D

One question wrt the calf raises jpm....you recommend a certain rep range...bodyweight till failure ok?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: jpm101 on March 24, 2013, 12:10:33 PM
Borracho:

Reps usually in the 15 to 20 range. Trying for one leg at a time, or both, the idea is to increase the pump in these short 2 sets, scattered throughout the day. Might add, the important stretch and the pump, remembering the old BB'ing saying, "More blood, more muscle". Which still holds true for many, many BB'ers even today. In other words, you don't want any outrages pump that fries the CNS on these all day programs.

Some of the larger top level BB'ers I that I have been acquainted with don't go anywhere near the extreme failure level. And with the all day calf program, you might find that not going to failure each set will produce better results. But do what  you think is best for your body. You know you body's responses better than anyone of us on GB.  Good Luck.

Side Bar:  The all day thing seems to work well on a arm program also.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 01:57:30 PM
sounds good jpm...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2013, 02:08:47 PM
sounds good jpm...

Thanks!

you're going down chump
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 24, 2013, 03:34:08 PM
training thighs and back is pretty much useless


disagree not with my legs,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 05:06:53 PM
you're going down chump

lol maybe 

my diet today was a few beers and some pastries.

disagree not with my legs,,,

He's just trolling. I love training back, realistically I don't think I'd ever be able to give that up. Legs would be easier to say sayonara to but still important I know.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 24, 2013, 05:11:53 PM
lol maybe 

my diet today was a few beers and some pastries.


Mike Mentzer ate pastries right up until the '79 olympia, and he came in ripped as fuck ;)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/137/images/Mike_%20Mentzer28.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 24, 2013, 05:16:08 PM
yeah but I'm not taking any amphetamines....just a little crack in the morning to get my heart rate up  ;D


Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 04:13:32 AM
all day training and pumping blood into the muscle group(s) is not a long term solution. This was used in the old days to gain temporary size usually before a show. the minimal size soon goes when normal training resumes. Itīs a bit like the reverse when people will lose weight fast.. they go in a sauna and sweat lots of fluid out and lose weight, drink fluid and your back to square one.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 07:50:54 AM
all day training and pumping blood into the muscle group(s) is not a long term solution. This was used in the old days to gain temporary size usually before a show. the minimal size soon goes when normal training resumes. Itīs a bit like the reverse when people will lose weight fast.. they go in a sauna and sweat lots of fluid out and lose weight, drink fluid and your back to square one.

I've decided to do pre exhaust for chest ...but for calves donny I thought maybe this would be a good shock routine. At least for a little while  ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 08:03:11 AM
I've decided to do pre exhaust for chest ...but for calves donny I thought maybe this would be a good shock routine. At least for a little while  ???
go for it... ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 08:21:04 AM
go for it... ;D

hey I did the a pre exaust routine for chest and bis last friday ...same day you mentioned it and my pecs were absolutely fried. Gonna stick with that one for now...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 08:42:53 AM
hey I did the a pre exaust routine for chest and bis last friday ...same day you mentioned it and my pecs were absolutely fried. Gonna stick with that one for now...

btw man, let's keep this bodyfat level contest on the up and up and agree that neither of us will use any "tricks of the trade"

like dehydration, bronzing the skin, lightening tricks, etc.

deal?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on March 25, 2013, 08:49:47 AM
hey I did the a pre exaust routine for chest and bis last friday ...same day you mentioned it and my pecs were absolutely fried. Gonna stick with that one for now...
yeah sure you did Pro..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
btw man, let's keep this bodyfat level contest on the up and up and agree that neither of us will use any "tricks of the trade"

like dehydration, bronzing the skin, lightening tricks, etc.

deal?

I'm way too lazy for that trust me lol

so yes...deal.

yeah sure you did Pro..

I was sore til yesterday lol

And come on donny we're all professional getbiggers around here!  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 09:01:33 AM
I'm way too lazy for that trust me lol

so yes...deal.

I was sore til yesterday lol

And come on donny we're all profesional getbiggers around here!  :D


allright man, sounds good ;D

i'm on my 3rd black coffee trying to make it through this lo cal day while cursing the day that you were born >:( >:( >:(

J/K ma man! ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 09:03:25 AM
allright man, sounds good ;D

i'm on my 3rd black coffee trying to make it through this lo cal day while cursing the day that you were born >:( >:( >:(

J/K ma man! ;D

lol

What have you ate so far today?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: anabolichalo on March 25, 2013, 09:05:04 AM
Mike Mentzer ate pastries right up until the '79 olympia, and he came in ripped as fuck ;)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/137/images/Mike_%20Mentzer28.jpg)
a calori is a calori

and a steroid is a steroid

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 09:08:58 AM
lol

What have you ate so far today?

breakkie was coffee with a bit of milk and sugar and 75 grams of white chesse

lunch was bean soup with one medium sized egg

and i'm thinking bout skipping din-din

total cals so far=1489
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 25, 2013, 09:19:17 AM
breakkie was coffee with a bit of milk and sugar and 75 grams of white chesse

lunch was bean soup with one medium sized egg

and i'm thinking bout skipping din-din

total cals so far=1489
no wonder you look like shit bro  ::)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 09:20:46 AM
breakkie was coffee with a bit of milk and sugar and 75 grams of white chesse

lunch was bean soup with one medium sized egg

and i'm thinking bout skipping din-din

total cals so far=1489

don't skip supper....eat some chocolate chip muffins washed down with chocolate milk...ummm sooooo good  ;D

Also, after talking to jonnhy falcon it appears olive oil contains fat burning properties...try to drink as much as you can.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
no wonder you look like shit bro  ::)

ask mr nobody and njflex just how shitty my delts and lats look ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 09:24:08 AM
don't skip supper....eat some chocolate chip muffins washed down with chocolate milk...ummm sooooo good  ;D

Also, after talking to jonnhy falcon it appears olive oil contains fat burning properties...try to drink as much as you can.

lol

according to falcon i can get some great wheels just by standing and walking around all day :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 25, 2013, 09:24:59 AM
ask mr nobody and njflex just how shitty my delts and lats look ;)
you are what you eat and you eat shit
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2013, 09:32:34 AM
 ???...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2013, 09:38:50 AM
lol

according to falcon i can get some great wheels just by standing and walking around all day :D :D :D
IF UR 300LBS..LIKE HIM...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 09:39:22 AM
who is this sexpert guy.... any guesses lol ?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 25, 2013, 09:49:23 AM
who is this sexpert guy.... any guesses lol ?
you and falcon use olive oil bro? :-\ no gel?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 09:55:22 AM
you and falcon use olive oil bro? :-\ no gel?

me and falcon use olive oil  ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 25, 2013, 11:45:23 AM
me and falcon use olive oil  ???
:-X
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 11:51:56 AM
:-X

2.5/10

gimmicks used to be so much better at this  :-\
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
who is this sexpert guy.... any guesses lol ?

if it's one of my haters well then better stand in line ;D

maybe it's groin(groink), poopoo(lulu), or dicksmack(bigmac) ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 01:27:07 PM
2.5/10

gimmicks used to be so much better at this  :-\

btw man, mr nobody said there should be 3 judges in case one picks me and the other picks you, so how about we ask galeniko to be the 3rd judge, do you agree?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 03:43:56 PM
if it's one of my haters well then better stand in line ;D

maybe it's groin(groink), poopoo(lulu), or dicksmack(bigmac) ???

Nah...all those people you mentioned have way more balls than that. Yes, that includes lulu  :D

btw man, mr nobody said there should be 3 judges in case one picks me and the other picks you, so how about we ask galeniko to be the 3rd judge, do you agree?

Just to see who the leanest is right,....I don't think it would be necessary but if you think so then by all means.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 04:08:05 PM
Nah...all those people you mentioned have way more balls than that. Yes, that includes lulu  :D

Just to see who the leanest is right,....I don't think it would be necessary but if you think so then by all means.

ok man, so what we can do is if it's a tie then we can bring gayleniko in as the tie breaker judge

and yeah, you're right..... we won't need a 3rd judge, coz I WILL SMOKE YO ASS!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2013, 04:22:20 PM
ok man, so what we can do is if it's a tie then we can bring gayleniko in as the tie breaker judge

and yeah, you're right..... we won't need a 3rd judge, coz I WILL SMOKE YO ASS!!!!!!
Ok then judging is set.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
and yeah, you're right..... we won't need a 3rd judge, coz I WILL SMOKE YO ASS!!!!!!

I have diarrhea.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 05:16:28 PM
I have diarrhea.

i just had a quarter pounder with cheese and half a big mac, but i still only had 2500 cals, and that's allright in fact, coz i'll need the extra energy tomorrow when i train curls and push-ups and take my training loads up once again, per usual ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2013, 06:34:50 PM
i just had a quarter pounder with cheese and half a big mac, but i still only had 2500 cals, and that's allright in fact, coz i'll need the extra energy tomorrow when i train curls and push-ups and take my training loads up once again, per usual ;)
2500 too much man
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 06:42:10 PM
2500 too much man

i plan to cycle cals staying @ 2200 for 3 days in a row and then on the 4th day going up to 2500

i've done this the past week and my ab skinfold is down 3 mm already ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 06:55:45 PM
2500 too much man

hey hey...no tips from the judges now  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2013, 07:06:01 PM
hey hey...no tips from the judges now  ;D
Good point, damn I try help people. We gotta keep it straight on you and dj until the posedown both need calves but if neither has calves oh well.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 25, 2013, 07:09:35 PM
Good point, damn I try help people. We gotta keep it straight on you and dj until the posedown both need calves but if neither has calves oh well.

fuck calves!

chicks dig a fella with.... V-torso, wide shoulders, tight slim and narrow waistline, and round firm bubble ass ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 25, 2013, 07:10:15 PM
Good point, damn I try help people. We gotta keep it straight on you and dj until the posedown both need calves but if neither has calves oh well.

I was just messing with ya...not like dj181 listens anyways  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2013, 07:24:29 PM
fuck calves!

chicks dig a fella with.... V-torso, wide shoulders, tight slim and narrow waistline, and round firm bubble ass ;D ;D ;D
Agreed, depends on goals if you want win contests you got to have calves. To fuck hoes they don't care.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2013, 07:33:46 PM
Agreed, depends on goals if you want win contests you got to have calves. To fuck hoes they don't care.
i'll lend them mine,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
i'll lend them mine,,,,
Good development, genes rule. I had to work the hell out of mine never reached a level as that but decent.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 25, 2013, 07:50:01 PM
Good development, genes rule. I had to work the hell out of mine never reached a level as that but decent.
i still train the hell out of them...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 26, 2013, 01:52:14 AM
I have diarrhea.
out your mouth bro?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 26, 2013, 01:54:05 AM
i just had a quarter pounder with cheese and half a big mac, but i still only had 2500 cals, and that's allright in fact, coz i'll need the extra energy tomorrow when i train curls and push-ups and take my training loads up once again, per usual ;)
dude get real ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 26, 2013, 03:17:27 AM
dude get real ???

this is how i looked on quarter pounders with cheese, wendy's doubles with cheese, french fries and coca-colas, etc

I SHIT YOU NOT

so you actually believe this horseshit that ones needs a clean "diet" to look outstanding right? hahahahaha!!!

all that matters is this..... get enough protein AND cals in vs. cals out, and now that i've taken this cals in vs cals out and getting enough protein gig a bit more seriuosly i've finally "remembered" the last part of the puzzle ;)

clean diet BAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!

p.s. where's yo pic?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 26, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
i'll judge i want thick pecs,veins,strong look,,,,, ;)..from the both of you..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 01:40:17 AM
i'll judge i want thick pecs,veins,strong look,,,,, ;)

for who?

you? me? or b? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 05:12:29 AM
for who?

you? me? or b? ;D ;D ;D
:D...at least i'm an in shape judge ,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 05:54:30 AM
:D...at least i'm an in shape judge ,,,

so are you saying that mr. nobody is an outta shape fat toad :D :D :D LOL!

oh, ok...

i see you modified your original post

so yeah, i guarantee that my pecs will be bigger and thicker than they were in my previous pic

and I WILL have veins running up and down my abs (although, quite honestly... i ain't such a fan of this look, as i had it just a few months ago when i got ripped up from doing Meta Training)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
so are you saying that mr. nobody is an outta shape fat toad :D :D :D LOL!

oh, ok...

i see you modified your original post

so yeah, i guarantee that my pecs will be bigger and thicker than they were in my previous pic

and I WILL have veins running up and down my abs (although, quite honestly... i ain't such a fan of this look, as i had it just a few months ago when i got ripped up from doing Meta Training)
this has nothing to do with 'mr nobody' he could maybe blow me out of the water,,never saw his pic,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 06:34:58 AM
this has nothing to do with 'mr nobody' he could maybe blow me out of the water,,never saw his pic,,,

it was a joke dude :)

mr. nobody is always in shape although he seems rather shy to post up many pics, as i think he's only posted up one pic ever

so where you at B?!

i'm damn near 8% RIGHT NOW 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2013, 07:19:28 AM
this has nothing to do with 'mr nobody' he could maybe blow me out of the water,,never saw his pic,,,
Page 42 V Board Soapy Studs

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=193061.1075
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 07:23:50 AM
Page 42 V Board Soapy Studs

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=193061.1075

 ;D ;D ;D

serious question.... who's the biggest narcissist out of the 5 of us?

me? you? nj? B? or G? ;)

and by the way...

did i tell you that my IQ was measured out in the high 120's and that my VO2 Max topped out @ 71 ml/kg/min ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2013, 07:24:59 AM
it was a joke dude :)

mr. nobody is always in shape although he seems rather shy to post up many pics, as i think he's only posted up one pic ever

so where you at B?!

i'm damn near 8% RIGHT NOW 8)
A race to to finish line it seems Barracho is about the same on BF %.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 07:43:03 AM
A race to to finish line it seems Barracho is about the same on BF %.
NICE BUILD ,,,MR,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
NICE BUILD ,,,MR,,,,
Thanks nj. We got to judge dj and Barracho if you are up to it deadline April 15 damn thats the tax deadline too a busy day.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 27, 2013, 07:52:43 AM
dj181=disillusioned twink ::)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 08:02:19 AM
dj181=disillusioned twink ::)

so where's yo pic fattycakes :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 27, 2013, 09:35:33 AM
dj181=shit diet+shit body ::)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 11:24:53 AM
Thanks nj. We got to judge dj and Barracho if you are up to it deadline April 15 damn thats the tax deadline too a busy day.
YEAH PICS POSTED HERE ...RELAXED,POSED OR COMBO ...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 11:31:18 AM
YEAH PICS POSTED HERE ...RELAXED,POSED OR COMBO ...

nope not posted here

i'll send my pics to you, mr. n, and B just like last time

i made a commitment to myself not to post public pics here anymore, coz i don't need to "prove" myself to anyone ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 11:36:04 AM
nope not posted here

i'll send my pics to you, mr. n, and B just like last time

i made a commitment to myself not to post public pics here anymore, coz i don't need to "prove" myself to anyone ;)
OK,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2013, 11:41:51 AM
YEAH PICS POSTED HERE ...RELAXED,POSED OR COMBO ...
I think the 7 manatory poses as in pre-judging, thats were you win or lose the night show is just for the crowd..

Front Double Biceps
Rear Double Biceps
Front Lat Spread
Rear Lat Spread
Side Triceps
Side Chest
Front Abdominal & Thigh

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 11:46:11 AM
I think the 7 manatory poses as in pre-judging, thats were you win or lose the night show is just for the crowd..

Front Double Biceps
Rear Double Biceps
Front Lat Spread
Rear Lat Spread
Side Triceps
Side Chest
Front Abdominal & Thigh



you're nuts man!

i am gonna wear my fucking jeans for these shots and in fact NO SHOTS will show anything below the waist

this ain't no damn bodybuilding contest dude, this is a "who is the leanest" contest
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 27, 2013, 11:55:14 AM
you're nuts man!

i am gonna wear my fucking jeans for these shots and in fact NO SHOTS will show anything below the waist

this ain't no damn bodybuilding contest dude, this is a "who is the leanest" contest

hmmm arguing with the judges...should be some points taken off for that no ?  :P
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 11:58:01 AM
hmmm arguing with the judges...should be some points taken off for that no ?  :P

lol

where's yo bodyfat at right now dude?

i'm damn near 8% i'd say
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 27, 2013, 12:00:21 PM
lol

where's yo bodyfat at right now dude?

i'm damn near 8% i'd say

I'm like 15% bro you can relax...take it easy..... have a whole pizza.  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 12:04:17 PM
I'm like 15% bro you can relax...take it easy..... have a whole pizza.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2013, 12:14:48 PM
you're nuts man!

i am gonna wear my fucking jeans for these shots and in fact NO SHOTS will show anything below the waist

this ain't no damn bodybuilding contest dude, this is a "who is the leanest" contest
Legs are a part of official bodybuilding criteria can you imagine Zane having no legs? So why not reveal them in the contest?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 12:17:04 PM
Legs are a part of official bodybuilding criteria can you imagine Zane having no legs? So why not reveal them in the contest?

coz i'll feel like a real f@ggot wearing shorts to show off my legs in front of the fella who will be taking my pics for this contest :-X :-X :-X

also, one can very easily asses bodyfat levels from torso shots, so legs pics aren't needed for bodyfat level assessment purposes
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
coz i'll feel like a real f@ggot wearing shorts to show off my legs in front of the fella who will be taking my pics for this contest :-X :-X :-X
[/quote
ITS NOT DAISY DUKES FOR GOD'S SAKE  :-*...I'LL SUBMIT MY LEGS IN THEN...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 12:19:35 PM
coz i'll feel like a real f@ggot wearing shorts to show off my legs in front of the fella who will be taking my pics for this contest :-X :-X :-X
[/quote
ITS NOT DAISY DUKES FOR GOD'S SAKE  :-*...I'LL SUBMIT MY LEGS IN THEN...

lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 27, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
coz i'll feel like a real f@ggot wearing shorts to show off my legs in front of the fella who will be taking my pics for this contest :-X :-X :-X

also, one can very easily asses bodyfat levels from torso shots, so legs pics aren't needed for bodyfat level assessment purposes
I think you are afraid that Borracho's legs will be the factor in scoring the contest.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 27, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
ahahah you know you made it when mr.nobody does the trash talking for ya.  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on March 27, 2013, 12:50:46 PM
nope not posted here

i'll send my pics to you, mr. n, and B just like last time

i made a commitment to myself not to post public pics here anymore, coz i don't need to "prove" myself to anyone ;)
all just fun bro :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: anabolichalo on March 27, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
the schmoes love big juicy legs

see pakulski
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 27, 2013, 04:37:42 PM
ahahah you know you made it when mr.nobody does the trash talking for ya.  :D

from me to you brother

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 27, 2013, 05:32:30 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 27, 2013, 08:15:30 PM
it;s thee eye of the tiger it's the thrill of the fight,,rising up to the challenge of our rivals and the last sole survivor ,,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 06:08:24 AM
it;s thee eye of the tiger it's the thrill of the fight,,rising up to the challenge of our rivals and the last sole survivor ,,,,,

 ;D ;D ;D

but seriously, why you dudes pushing to have some leg pics?

this ain't a bodybuilding contest btw me and B, it's a bodyfat contest ???

and speaking of legs, my girl was with me just last nite and she said that my legs (quads) are pretty ok, but that my calves are lagging... BRUTAL!!!

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 28, 2013, 06:19:34 AM
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Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 06:53:27 AM
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so what's the point of this clip dude?

don't be a pussy, spit it out
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 28, 2013, 06:57:14 AM
so what's the point of this clip dude?

don't be a pussy, spit it out
It's very important you got to know when to go home.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 07:20:34 AM
It's very important you got to know when to go home.

that's a very vague statement dude

and to kinda clear up the point of this contest for the judges it's not who has the best legs or the best arms or the best whatever

the point of this contest is only... who is leaner, me or B?

in fact, all we really need to do is post ab shots coz that shows our level of leanness, but i'm gonna send both you dudes a front relaxed and back double bi, just so you fellas can tell me if i actually improved my arms and chest coz that's my goal now, besides getting ripped

and as far as an updte goes my waist is down 5 cm (2 inches) and my ab skinfold is down 4 mm

i need to lose another 5-6 cm off of my waist and another 4-5 mm off of my ab skinfold then at that point i'll be sitting @ 6%
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
that's a very vague statement dude

and to kinda clear up the point of this contest for the judges it's not who has the best legs or the best arms or the best whatever

the point of this contest is only... who is leaner, me or B?

in fact, all we really need to do is post ab shots coz that shows our level of leanness, but i'm gonna send both you dudes a front relaxed and back double bi, just so you fellas can tell me if i actually improved my arms and chest coz that's my goal now, besides getting ripped

and as far as an updte goes my waist is down 5 cm (2 inches) and my ab skinfold is down 4 mm

i need to lose another 5-6 cm off of my waist and another 4-5 mm off of my ab skinfold then at that point i'll be sitting @ 6%

JUDGED ON LEANESS OK,,,,I LIKE HAVING BIG LEGS...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 08:32:30 AM
JUDGED ON LEANESS OK,,,,I LIKE HAVING BIG LEGS...

and i like having a V-torso with a very tight, tiny and narrow wasitline ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2013, 09:07:22 AM
and i like having a V-torso with a very tight, tiny and narrow wasitline ;)
i know u have mentioned this 1,000 x  :D...i have'lean abs' too maybe not a minuscule waist as yours but i'm happy with being i'm avg to short height 5'7 to 5'8 with legs,chest and carry it on decent conditoned weight 185/190
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 09:09:48 AM
i know u have mentioned this 1,000 x  :D...i have'lean abs' too maybe not a minuscule waist as yours but i'm happy with being i'm avg to short height 5'7 to 5'8 with legs,chest and carry it on decent conditoned weight 185/190

yeah, you got a good physique no doubt

and hopefully come mid-April when you get my pics you'll clearly see that i've added size and thickness to my arms and pecs

here is MY FINAL GOAL

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc7to3RTMe1r30l77o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 28, 2013, 09:17:47 AM
yeah, you got a good physique no doubt

and hopefully come mid-April when you get my pics you'll clearly see that i've added size and thickness to my arms and pecs

here is MY FINAL GOAL

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc7to3RTMe1r30l77o1_400.gif)
THATS A KICK ASS PHYSIQUE NO DOUBT,,I HAVE NO ILL WILL ON THIS CONTEST I LIKE CAMACHO BORRACHO AND U AS WELL WILL BE FAIR JUST LIKE UR EVALUATION PICS,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 09:47:53 AM
THATS A KICK ASS PHYSIQUE NO DOUBT,,I HAVE NO ILL WILL ON THIS CONTEST I LIKE CAMACHO BORRACHO AND U AS WELL WILL BE FAIR JUST LIKE UR EVALUATION PICS,,,

thanks man, and i appreciate that

i ain't looking for no handouts, so i expect a fair and honest evaluation

and speaking of that fella above, i showed him to my girl last night and she kinda went batshit crazy for the dude, saying something like... "he's sooooo fucking hot!"

so now i gotta feeling that he's gonna hunt me in my nightmares and dreams LOL!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 28, 2013, 10:24:06 AM
that's a very vague statement dude

and to kinda clear up the point of this contest for the judges it's not who has the best legs or the best arms or the best whatever

the point of this contest is only... who is leaner, me or B?

in fact, all we really need to do is post ab shots coz that shows our level of leanness, but i'm gonna send both you dudes a front relaxed and back double bi, just so you fellas can tell me if i actually improved my arms and chest coz that's my goal now, besides getting ripped

and as far as an updte goes my waist is down 5 cm (2 inches) and my ab skinfold is down 4 mm

i need to lose another 5-6 cm off of my waist and another 4-5 mm off of my ab skinfold then at that point i'll be sitting @ 6%

OK whatever you two agree on for criteria. Sounds like you are getting leaner.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 28, 2013, 10:52:16 AM
OK whatever you two agree on for criteria. Sounds like you are getting leaner.

well, no shit i'm getting leaner

eating 1600-2200 cals a day is gonna make someone leaner :D :D :D

today i'll only have bout 1250 cals
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 29, 2013, 05:45:47 AM
hey B!

veinage is just staring to appear on my ab wall

LOOK OUT ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 29, 2013, 07:13:10 AM
can you believe I've actually gotten fatter
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 29, 2013, 07:14:26 AM
can you believe I've actually gotten fatter

 ;D ;D ;D

i may naive dude, but i ain't that naive ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 29, 2013, 07:16:05 AM
;D ;D ;D

i may naive dude, but i ain't that naive ;)

haha ok you got me...really do feel like pigging out right now though.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 29, 2013, 07:18:58 AM
haha ok you got me...really do feel like pigging out right now though.

today i'll eat bout 2000 cals coz it's chest and bi day, and that's the parts i'm trying to bring the fuck up

now my normal intake will be about 1500 cals per day right up til SHOWTIME 8)

where you at?!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 29, 2013, 07:21:30 AM
today i'll eat bout 2000 cals coz it's chest and bi day, and that's the parts i'm trying to bring the fuck up

now my normal intake will be about 1500 cals per day right up til SHOWTIME 8)

where you at?!

I'm at home...









 ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 29, 2013, 07:24:06 AM
I'm at home...









 ;D

ZING! ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 09:47:02 AM
this just in...

ma man B and I have decided to move the contest deadline up one week, so i'll have my pics taken a week from this tuesday and froward them to the 3 of you fellas on wednesday the 10th
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 11:20:29 AM
this just in...

ma man B and I have decided to move the contest deadline up one week, so i'll have my pics taken a week from this tuesday and froward them to the 3 of you fellas on wednesday the 10th
8)... :-*...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 11:25:38 AM
8)... :-*...

be prepared to be impressed 8)

well at least i sure as hell hope so :)

but i don't want no fucking hand outs so shoot it to me straight come showtime
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 11:36:26 AM
be prepared to be impressed 8)

well at least i sure as hell hope so :)

but i don't want no fucking hand outs so shoot it to me straight come showtime
I always got my shotgun by my side.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
I always got my shotgun by my side.

so does this mean that you gonna blow my brains out if i don't make the cut :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
so does this mean that you gonna blow my brains out if i don't make the cut :D :D :D
Yes.  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 04:54:27 PM
Yes.  ;D

You wouldn't be the only one who's thought about shooting dj181...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
You wouldn't be not the only one who's thought about shooting dj181...

lol

"and it won't be too long before someone puts one through you
double trouble, that's what my friends all call me" 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 05:57:32 PM
You've been busted eleven times dj...holy shit you really are stubborn lol  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 06:01:37 PM
You've been busted eleven times dj...holy shit you really are stubborn lol  ;D

fuck! i'm really pissed off about this goddamn "diet" >:( >:( >:(

i can actually suffer though the hunger, but something else is pissing me off, but i don't know what exactly ??? ??? ???

maybe i'm semi-hallucinating or some such shit lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 06:05:29 PM
fuck! i'm really pissed off about this goddamn "diet" >:( >:( >:(

i can actually suffer though the hunger, but something else is pissing me off, but i don't know what exactly ??? ??? ???

maybe i'm semi-hallucinating or some such shit lol

YES!!!

THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR!!!!

YOU SUFFERING HAHAHAHAHA!!

EVEN IF I LOSE THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW MAKES IT ALL WORTH IT!!!


hahaa just fucking with ya dude...I know dieting can really suck. Makes me irritable at times...I've told you this before.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 06:11:32 PM
YES!!!

THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR!!!!

YOU SUFFERING HAHAHAHAHA!!

EVEN IF I LOSE THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW MAKES IT ALL WORTH IT!!!


hahaa just fucking with ya dude...I know dieting can really suck. Makes me irritable at times...I've told you this before.

This is true, when down to the last stages of a diet and water reduction I have to stay away from people or a punch may occur.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 06:18:11 PM
This is true, when down to the last stages of a diet and water reduction I have to stay away from people or a punch may occur.

Like a grumpy/crying baby when he wants to eat or sleep. That's what I'm like even when not dieting actually... ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 06:23:26 PM
Like a grumpy/crying baby when he wants to eat or sleep. That's what I'm like even when not dieting actually... ;D

and my girl is coming over to me on tuesday and she is gonna make me a rice, chicken and veggie dinner and i don't wanna be a fucking prick for her but it's gonna be tough coz on tuesday i'll only eat breakkie so that i can kinda "enjoy" our din-din or at least i hope so :-\ :-\ :-\

i've warned her that i'm quite a handful and even my own mother says to me "how do you get those girls to stay involved with you? if i was with a man who said the things that you say to them then i'd leave you're ass and never come back" LOL!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 06:28:33 PM
fuck! i'm really pissed off about this goddamn "diet" >:( >:( >:(

i can actually suffer though the hunger, but something else is pissing me off, but i don't know what exactly ??? ??? ???

maybe i'm semi-hallucinating or some such shit lol
Get some simple carbs blood sugar levels could be pissing you off like a reese cup or something low cals.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 06:29:54 PM
and my girl is coming over to me on tuesday and she is gonna make me a rice, chicken and veggie dinner and i don't wanna be a fucking prick for her but it's gonna be tough coz on tuesday i'll only eat breakkie so that i can kinda "enjoy" our din-din or at least i hope so :-\ :-\ :-\

i've warned her that i'm quite a handful and even my own mother says to me "how do you get those girls to stay involved with you? if i was with a man who said the things that you say to them then i'd leave you're ass and never come back" LOL!

 ;D

lol

bro if you want we can keep it closer to the original date ....lol

sorry but that was kinda funny to me...what I highlighted...I don't even know why  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 06:30:59 PM
mr nobody can i win the 'mr hamstring 'contest on this thread at least,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 06:31:23 PM
^ nice ass  :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 06:35:59 PM
;D

lol

bro if you want we can keep it closer to the original date ....lol

sorry but that was kinda funny to me...what I highlighted...I don't even know why  ;D

shit man!

maybe i should go back to our original date

let me think about it

my girl was with me on wednesday and i said some stupid shit per usual and now she's ignoring my smses lol

but it will be all ok and i gotta give her credit, she is a real trooper for putting up with my ass ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 06:39:55 PM
mr nobody can i win the 'mr hamstring 'contest on this thread at least,,,
You got them covered on this thread although Borracho has some big thighs as I haven't seen his hamstrings. Just honest though your frontal thighs overpower the hams. Maybe some stiff legged deads are in order.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 30, 2013, 06:40:43 PM
what about calves :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 06:41:42 PM
^ nice ass  :-*
lol,,,,classic b,,,,as al pacino greeeaaatttt asssss!!!same surgeon as kim kardashian..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
Yeah dj...that's cool don't worry about it.

And yeah I think nj has me on hams...gotta give it up to this man...he's got the whole package.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
what about calves :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Let's change this to just calf showdown. A tight race to the finish. :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 06:46:34 PM
You got them covered on this thread although Borracho has some big thighs as you haven't seen his hamstrings. Just honest though your frontal thighs overpower the hams. Mybe some stiff legged deads in order.
do them every week,,,noticed when i go lighter better pump/form,,i sometimes have to ease up 275 is heaviest set i feel 225 best,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 06:48:32 PM
Let's change this to just calf showdown. A tight race to the finish. :D
hahaha,,,,dj181 is a man with a plan  'leanest''build...he hates legs...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 06:50:26 PM
do them every week,,,noticed when i go lighter better pump/form,,i sometimes have to ease up 275 is heaviest set i feel 225 best,,
Do you do them standing on a bench or platform ? The stretch very important. But as said your frontal overshadows the hams but all the way some big legs.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 06:53:37 PM
Let's change this to just calf showdown. A tight race to the finish. :D

hahaha,,,,dj181 is a man with a plan  'leanest''build...he hates legs...

Oh god if djs calves are worst than mine ....I HAVE to see them!!   ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:02:08 PM
Do you do them standing on a bench or platform ? The stretch very important. But as said your frontal overshadows the hams but all the way some big legs.
ur right i should go back to platform version.been doing regular standing for a long time,,,i do seated and lying leg curls and i do good balance of hi rep and low rep ,,i like 10/12 tho and with most leg movements i use stack on them,,i have very strong legs squatter,leg pres,lunges ,i'm no platz disciple tho i still have good balance upper to lower ..but good legs is never a bad thing,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 07:06:03 PM
Oh god if djs calves are worst than mine ....I HAVE to see them!!   ;D
He won't show them but has said they are tremendous.  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 07:09:49 PM
He won't show them but has said they are tremendous.  :D

 ;D

Hey dj I'll show you mine if you show me yours (no homo)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
He won't show them but has said they are tremendous.  :D
;D...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:11:10 PM
i like this thread,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 07:11:27 PM
ur right i should go back to platform version.been doing regular standing for a long time,,,i do seated and lying leg curls and i do good balance of hi rep and low rep ,,i like 10/12 tho and with most leg movements i use stack on them,,i have very strong legs squatter,leg pres,lunges ,i'm no platz disciple tho i still have good balance upper to lower ..but good legs is never a bad thing,,,
What is your height? Strong leg guys tend to be shorter. I had to struggle being 6'2". But I have flexibility  which keeps me straight in the squats meaning not bring lower back in.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 07:14:38 PM
same surgeon as kardashian lol

just seeing that one now  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:16:03 PM
What is your height? Strong leg guys tend to be shorter. I had to struggle being 6'2". But I have flexibility  which keeps me straight in the squats meaning not bring lower back in.
5'8 on a good day with heels on,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 07:17:11 PM
same surgeon as kardashian lol

just seeing that one now  ;D
:D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 07:17:29 PM
5'8 on a good day with heels on,,,

that explains the perky ass
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
that explains the perky ass
;D... :-*.... :-X,,,, :o...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 07:21:23 PM
So what happened to dj ? ....is he loading up his backpack with 100 kilos to do some push ups?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:24:42 PM
So what happened to dj ? ....is he loading up his backpack with 100 kilos to do some push ups?
rocky 4,,, he's splitting wood outside in the snow and then he's going to pull a sled like snow dogs  filled with cinderblocks,,he has a picture of u and drago on his fridge...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 30, 2013, 07:27:07 PM
rocky 4,,, he's splitting wood outside in the snow and then he's going to pull a sled like snow dogs  filled with cinderblocks,,he has a picture of u and drago on his fridge...

hahahaha

Good times...

Anyways, I'm off to see a lady friend...

Translation: I'm calling a hooker.

Enjoy your Saturday night boys....

Happy Easter!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 30, 2013, 07:27:44 PM
rocky 4,,, he's splitting wood outside in the snow and then he's going to pull a sled like snow dogs  filled with cinderblocks,,he has a picture of u and drago on his fridge...
Following the Falcon principles I see, it works for Falcon. A great physique at once.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 30, 2013, 07:28:28 PM
hahahaha

Good times...

Anyways, I'm off to see a lady friend...

Translation: I'm calling a hooker.

Enjoy your Saturday night boys....

Happy Easter!!
u too happy easter,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 04:49:20 AM
Oh god if djs calves are worst than mine ....I HAVE to see them!!   ;D

 :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 04:55:22 AM
that explains the perky ass

lol

hey nj! i gots me a very strong liking for firm round ass showcased in skin-tight shiny latex or nylon leggings so throw some on and post up some pics brother :-*

but we gotta be careful here, coz i sometimes show this thread to my girl ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 04:56:28 AM
rocky 4,,, he's splitting wood outside in the snow and then he's going to pull a sled like snow dogs  filled with cinderblocks,,he has a picture of u and drago on his fridge...

 ;D ;D ;D

fucking classic!!! A+
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 05:17:32 AM
damn B!

let's move the deadline back to April 17th

i don't wanna push too hard too fast, coz i'm actually gaining some quality muscle on my pecs and arms, just as i said i would ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 05:21:22 AM
:-* :-* :-*
dj needs to photoshop those calves off in that pic.  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 05:29:30 AM
dj needs to photoshop those calves off in that pic.  ;D

Christ man! my girl and even my own mother give me shit about my calves :'( :'( :'(

FUCKING BRUTAL@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

and it's funny coz each training session i look at my bells and think... "mmm... maybe i should do some calf raises?" but then i tell myself.... "fuck dude! it's such a dull fucking exercise! forget about it and fuck your mom, your girl, and your getbig buds! ;D ;D ;D"
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 05:38:31 AM
Christ man! my girl and even my own mother give me shit about my calves :'( :'( :'(

FUCKING BRUTAL@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

and it's funny coz each training session i look at my bells and think... "mmm... maybe i should do some calf raises?" but then i tell myself.... "fuck dude! it's such a dull fucking exercise! forget about it and fuck your mom, your girl, and your getbig buds! ;D ;D ;D"
Brutal clarity.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 08:15:53 AM
good thread  :)...weird thread :o...and all in between :P...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 08:20:27 AM
good thread  :)...weird thread :o...and all in between :P...

wot you think of ma calves brother? ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: anabolichalo on March 31, 2013, 08:45:14 AM
Christ man! my girl and even my own mother give me shit about my calves :'( :'( :'(

FUCKING BRUTAL@!@!@!@!@!@!@!@!

and it's funny coz each training session i look at my bells and think... "mmm... maybe i should do some calf raises?" but then i tell myself.... "fuck dude! it's such a dull fucking exercise! forget about it and fuck your mom, your girl, and your getbig buds! ;D ;D ;D"
bahahaha yes

calf training


i know these feels
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on March 31, 2013, 08:57:02 AM
wot you think of ma calves brother? ;D
u have genetically narrow waist ,,long legs,,top to bottom at least there ,they are even all the way down ...train them,,calves look good in long shorts even somewhat built.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 31, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
:-* :-* :-*

As njflex said at least your legs are "even"  ;D

Mine look worse cause my quads are unproportionately larger.  >:(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
As njflex said at least your legs are "even"  ;D

Mine look worse cause my quads are unproportionately larger.  >:(

who gives a shit about that man

the chicks dig upper bod ;D

btw, really big legs look goofy as fuck :-X :-X :-X

sleek and cat-like FTMFW
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 31, 2013, 12:53:42 PM
who gives a shit about that man

the chicks dig upper bod ;D

btw, really big legs look goofy as fuck :-X :-X :-X

sleek and cat-like FTMFW

Nice to have an X frame and be able to wear shorts without people asking you if you train legs lol.

Not that I care what people think but when you bust your ass training its kind of a kick in the nuts.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 12:56:03 PM
Nice to have an X frame and be able to wear shorts without people asking you if you train legs lol.

Not that I care what people think but when you bust your ass training its kind of a kick in the nuts.

how many cals you at son?

i'm down to 1650 :-X
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on March 31, 2013, 01:04:44 PM
how many cals you at son?

i'm down to 1650 :-X

If I say 500 would you drop yours to 499 ?  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
If I say 500 would you drop yours to 499 ?  ;D

yeah, coz.....

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
yeah, coz.....


Are you saying you are going the distance?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 01:55:39 PM
Are you saying you are going the distance?


fuck yeah!

and here's wot B is gonna be singing at the end of this contest MARK MY WORDS



Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 02:46:57 PM
i got a calf question for you dudes

is it really so important to get an extreme and full range of motion on calf raises?

i do one leg calf raises with a heavy bell in one hand when i do them, but i only do them from the floor up, so they are basically from mid-range til top extended position

i know you're supposed to get the bottom stretch on them but it's a real pain in the ass setting up for this by standing on a thick book, not to mention that the thick book that i use isn't so strongly stable lol so i just do them from the floor up to top position

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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 03:05:41 PM
i got a calf question for you dudes

is it really so important to get an extreme and full range of motion on calf raises?

i do one leg calf raises with a heavy bell in one hand when i do them, but i only do them from the floor up, so they are basically from mid-range til top extended position

i know you're supposed to get the bottom stretch on them but it's a real pain in the ass setting up for this by standing on a thick book, not to mention that the thick book that i use isn't so strongly stable lol so i just do them from the floor up to top position


A full stretch is important even holding the bottom stretch for a couple of seconds.
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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 03:46:04 PM
A full stretch is important even holding the bottom stretch for a couple of seconds.

probably so, but are you saying that i'll get ZERO benefit from doing only half reps?

maybe i won't get full benefit from half reps, but i'll still get something out of them
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
probably so, but are you saying that i'll get ZERO benefit from doing only half reps?

maybe i won't get full benefit from half reps, but i'll still get something out of them
Yes, If you had good genes for them most anything works, if not to increase very much you need the full range.
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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
Yes, If you had good genes for them most anything works, if not to increase very much you need the full range.

do you buy what Mentzer said about some of his clients stopping calf work and then ending up with bigger calves?
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Post by: anabolichalo on March 31, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
do you buy what Mentzer said about some of his clients stopping calf work and then ending up with bigger calves?
dumbest claim ever

for the love of god
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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 04:39:10 PM
dumbest claim ever

for the love of god

did you ever try Mentzer's methods?
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Post by: anabolichalo on March 31, 2013, 04:54:23 PM
did you ever try Mentzer's methods?
no but i know people that did

they regressed horribly

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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 04:58:42 PM
no but i know people that did

they regressed horribly



did they do the consolidation routine?

it was training just once a week with a workout A and workout B

A was squat/dip
B was chin/dead

IMO he took frequency down WAY TOO LOW, but low volume works quite well for me actually

i basically train 5 days per week but i only do one set til failure on 2 exercises per workout (generally)
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Post by: anabolichalo on March 31, 2013, 05:00:57 PM
did they do the consolidation routine?

it was training just once a week with a workout A and workout B

A was squat/dip
B was chin/dead

IMO he took frequency down WAY TOO LOW, but low volume works quite well for me actually

i basically train 5 days per week but i only do one set til failure on 2 exercises per workout (generally)
i dont know the details

only that this pretty built dude got brainwashed by mentzer

and shrank like a little girl
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 06:08:44 PM
do you buy what Mentzer said about some of his clients stopping calf work and then ending up with bigger calves?
Not if they don't have genes for them.
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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
Not if they don't have genes for them.

genes don't mean shit if you don't train your ass off

some say i'm genetically blessed to be lean, but i call bullshit on that coz i've been a fatass multiple times and i only got ripped and stayed ripped when i trained my fucking ass off and watched my cal intake

same with the superdrol, i was taking more before and now i'm taking less and i'm getting better results

why? because i'm training harder and pushing myself better and getting a bit more rest than i was when i was taking more
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 06:33:15 PM
genes don't mean shit if you don't train your ass off

some say i'm genetically blessed to be lean, but i call bullshit on that coz i've been a fatass multiple times and i only got ripped and stayed ripped when i trained my fucking ass off and watched my cal intake

same with the superdrol, i was taking more before and now i'm taking less and i'm getting better results

why? because i'm training harder and pushing myself better and getting a bit more rest than i was when i was taking more
Genes don't shit ok, LOL. I know a guy with 19inch calves never done a calf raise in his life. However anyone can become a fat ass by just eating too many calories.
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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 06:38:37 PM
Genes don't shit ok, LOL. I know a guy with 19inch calves never done a calf raise in his life. However anyone can become a fat ass by just eating too many calories.

genes do matter, but you give them too much power

you gotta learn to harness a fierce drive within you brother

basically when it gets hard and you feel like quitting, then you gotta bite the bullet and push even harder ;)

p.s. i'm kinda talking to myself here, so don't take it so serious ma man ;D
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 31, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
genes do matter, but you give them too much power

you gotta learn to harness a fierce drive within you brother

basically when it gets hard and you feel like quitting, then you gotta bite the bullet and push even harder ;)

p.s. i'm kinda talking to myself here, so don't take it so serious ma man ;D
I know this. I had to work the shit out of mine brought them up, however there limits would I ever have the calves of Casey Viator = no.
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Post by: dj181 on March 31, 2013, 06:49:52 PM
I know this. I had to work the shit out of mine brought them up, however there limits would I ever have the calves of Casey Viator = no.

these dudes look about prerfect IMO

and bigger than this than one starts to look goofy and toady looking

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=465256.0;attach=511633;image)
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Post by: Borracho on March 31, 2013, 10:56:31 PM
Heres a pic I took tonight after a cheat meal..





















(http://25.media.tumblr.com/14661b83b9f03fe41aded0ff88ffe120/tumblr_mfuzh5pJh51rehvbho1_500.jpg)


I wish  :(
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 02:02:05 PM
2 weeks to go chumpo

remember... "bodybuilding" is all and illusion and of course this helps when one has tiny, tiny joint like mine ;)

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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 01, 2013, 02:18:57 PM
2 weeks to go chumpo

remember... "bodybuilding" is all and illusion and of course this helps when one has tiny, tiny joint like mine ;)


What's the criteria for the contest just abs or what?
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 02:21:16 PM
^
Maybe we should just do who has a better build. Lets see what those tiny joints translate to in real life.  :D
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 02:25:42 PM
What's the criteria for the contest just abs or what?

shit dude! i don't know ???

i guess that i let my narcissism get the best of me there ;)

this contest is supposed to be only about who is the leanest and nothing more...

^
Maybe we should just do who has a better build. Lets see what those tiny joints translate to in real life.  :D

see above post ;)

but... i can challenge you to who has the best bod once i finish scuplting mine out, which should take place sometime in the fall

as of now i wanna get ripped and stay ripped while adding size where need be (except for calves :D :D :D)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 01, 2013, 02:30:01 PM
shit dude! i don't know ???

i guess that i let my narcissism get the best of me there ;)

this contest is supposed to be only about who is the leanest and nothing more...

see above post ;)

but... i can challenge you to who has the best bod once i finish scuplting mine out, which should take place sometime in the fall

as of now i wanna get ripped and stay ripped while adding size where need be (except for calves :D :D :D)
I say overall body, lets say you two are in a bodybuilding contest they just dont look at abs. Yea abs are a indication of leaness, but your symmetry and size compared to structure. Calves included. So will you both wear like knee length shorts to the knee so calves are out the question?
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 02:37:35 PM
I say overall body, lets say you two are in a bodybuilding contest they just dont look at abs. Yea abs are a indication of leaness, but your symmetry and size compared to structure. Calves included. So will you both wear like knee length shorts to the knee so calves are out the question?

well shit man!

as far as that goes i'm only about 70% of my potential, so B will smoke my ass at the present moment

but if he wants a full blown comp then i'd be up and ready for it in september/october

p.s. i got decent quads actually, they are right behind my lats and delts ;)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 01, 2013, 02:40:15 PM
well shit man!

as far as that goes i'm only about 70% of my potential, so B will smoke my ass at the present moment

but if he wants a full blown comp then i'd be up and ready for it in september/october

p.s. i got decent quads actually, they are right behind my lats and delts ;)
B dont have calves either so a standoff. Ok again what's the criteria?
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 02:44:35 PM
B dont have calves either so a standoff. Ok again what's the criteria?

again... who is leanest (1st and foremost)

and i guess we can throw in who has the best upper bod as i will send a front relaxed and a back double bi, same as last time

and we could also do best abs, best arms, best delts, best chest and best back i suppose (if ma man B agrees)

but i don't wanna take a shitload of pics this time

if we do a full on bb comp in sept/oct then i'll go full bore with the pics
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 01, 2013, 02:49:09 PM
again... who is leanest (1st and foremost)

and i guess we can throw in who has the best upper bod as i will send a front relaxed and a back double bi, same as last time

and we could also do best abs, best arms, best delts, best chest and best back i suppose (if ma man B agrees)

but i don't wanna take a shitload of pics this time

if we do a full on bb comp in sept/oct then i'll go full bore with the pics
Sounds like jeans are in order for this one then.  ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 02:58:13 PM
again... who is leanest (1st and foremost)

and i guess we can throw in who has the best upper bod as i will send a front relaxed and a back double bi, same as last time

and we could also do best abs, best arms, best delts, best chest and best back i suppose (if ma man B agrees)

but i don't wanna take a shitload of pics this time

if we do a full on bb comp in sept/oct then i'll go full bore with the pics

I was only fucking with ya but this "best" stuff sounds interesting  :D
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 03:02:50 PM
I was only fucking with ya but this "best" stuff sounds interesting  :D

allright then, so we can make it who is leanest and who has the best STRUCTURE ;) ;D 8)

j/k kidding about the "best STRUCTURE" (well kinda ;))

but let's just stick with leanest for now
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 03:08:57 PM
allright then, so we can make it who is leanest and who has the best STRUCTURE ;) ;D 8)

j/k kidding about the "best STRUCTURE" (well kinda ;))

but let's just stick with leanest for now

It will be up to both njflex and mr.nobody to decide the "best" criteria but I put my trust in those two...they know bodybuilding.
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 03:11:07 PM
It will be up to both njflex and mr.nobody to decide the "best" criteria but I put my trust in those two...they know bodybuilding.

agreed

i guess we should count ourselves lucky that we got 2 such stand-up and knowledgeable dudes as our judges
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 03:12:18 PM
agreed

i guess we should count ourselves lucky that we got 2 such stand-up and knowledgeable dudes as our judges

Actually they both suck ...I was just kissing ass.  :P
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Post by: dj181 on April 01, 2013, 03:14:54 PM
Actually they both suck ...I was just kissing ass.  :P

 ;D ;D ;D

yeah, those f@gs seem fucking obsessed with our "legs and calves" WTF ??? ??? ???

i'm just surprised they ain't made no mention bout judging our asses, yet...............
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 06:56:44 PM
;D ;D ;D

yeah, those f@gs seem fucking obsessed with our "legs and calves" WTF ??? ??? ???

i'm just surprised they ain't made no mention bout judging our asses, yet...............

I'm kinda hoping they do  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 01, 2013, 06:58:23 PM
I'm kinda hoping they do  :D
I understand as being a judge in this it will be calves only.   ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 07:03:06 PM
I understand as being a judge in this it will be calves only.   ;D

haha mine don't look that bad.....if you squint your eyes a little bit you can see them.... sort of.
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Post by: njflex on April 01, 2013, 07:21:04 PM
whateva u guys want,,, 8)....
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 07:25:24 PM
My friends say..."hey at least they're lean"  :D

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/C-LOS_24/IMG_1779_zps363fd441.jpg)

just to make me feel better.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 01, 2013, 07:28:59 PM
My friends say..."hey at least they're lean"  :D

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/C-LOS_24/IMG_1779_zps363fd441.jpg)

just to make me feel better.
I can tell you are getting leaner there and calves coming up a bit since last I saw.
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Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 07:31:26 PM
I can tell you are getting leaner there and calves coming up a bit since last I saw.

hahah thanks but they are still really bad.

Compared to my legs I mean...severely under developed.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 01, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
Just a little sneak peak for dj181....

Taken before the gym today....no pump.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/C-LOS_24/IMG_1773_zpsaddd4082.jpg)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 01:23:01 AM
Just a little sneak peak for dj181....

Taken before the gym today....no pump.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/C-LOS_24/IMG_1773_zpsaddd4082.jpg)



can you make this image any darker man :D :D :D

and what's up with hiding the abs ma man ??? ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2013, 05:09:43 AM
NICE BORRACHO,,,DJ ARE U SAYING B IS TAKING PIC IN A CAVE AND THEN LIGHTING THEM A BIT ...NICE LEGS B,,,
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Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 05:39:25 AM
No ab shots dj to hide my 35" waist. lol

Note to self : buy more candles to light up the cave and get bin laden that playgirl he's been bothering you about.



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Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 05:53:07 AM
NICE BORRACHO,,,DJ ARE U SAYING B IS TAKING PIC IN A CAVE AND THEN LIGHTING THEM A BIT ...NICE LEGS B,,,

i'd say that he's just being a bit coy, as he most likey doesn't want to give you fellas such a good look at his ass just yet...
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Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 06:03:44 AM
i'd say that he's just being a bit coy, as he most likey doesn't want to give you fellas such a good look at his ass just yet...

Those ass shots are reserved for you my love.
























 ;D
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Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 06:25:29 AM
Those ass shots are reserved for you my love.
























 ;D

merci beaucoup mon amore :P :P :P
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Post by: sexpert on April 02, 2013, 06:30:24 AM
WTF?? ???
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Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 06:39:50 AM
Hunger is starting to set in for me...this is a good sign. Oh and I had to take the flash off the camera cause of the reflection in the mirror.... didn't realize they were that dark till now. Abs are there dj and my waist is not 35" thank god. But I'm not where I should be conditioning wise...not yet. Going for galeniko like leaness once and for all...I'm not concerned with more size. It's not easy...I got a lot of respect for him.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 07:52:44 AM
WTF?? ???


that's called STRUCTURE dipshit

i bet your a wide-hipped pear-bodied fataas TOAD BOY hahahahahsahahahahhahaha h!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 07:55:14 AM
Hunger is starting to set in for me...this is a good sign. Oh and I had to take the flash off the camera cause of the reflection in the mirror.... didn't realize they were that dark till now. Abs are there dj and my waist is not 35" thank god. But I'm not where I should be conditioning wise...not yet. Going for galeniko like leaness once and for all...I'm not concerned with more size. It's not easy...I got a lot of respect for him.

well dude

i'm gonna get fucking ripped and then stay fucking ripped while i continue to add size and thickness to my arms and pecs, just you wait and see ;)
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Post by: sexpert on April 02, 2013, 10:19:27 AM
that's called STRUCTURE dipshit

i bet your a wide-hipped pear-bodied fataas TOAD BOY hahahahahsahahahahhahaha h!!!!!!!!!!!!
dude you are a tool
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Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 10:22:36 AM
dude you are a tool

then why don't you post your pic and show me what a tool i am PUSSY

i'd give good odds that my physique shits all over yours, but if i'm wrong and you are better than me then i'll fully admit it

but i seriously doubt that i'd have to ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: sexpert on April 02, 2013, 10:53:01 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 11:35:53 AM
:D


translation=i look like dogshit with a sucksass STRUCTURE :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 02, 2013, 12:26:46 PM
Just a little sneak peak for dj181....

Taken before the gym today....no pump.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/C-LOS_24/IMG_1773_zpsaddd4082.jpg)


Looks like you and dj need to wear some high top boots to the knees for this event.  ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 04:28:18 PM
Looks like you and dj need to wear some high top boots to the knees for this event.  ;D

 :-\
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
:-\

don't worry ma man, it's just these f@ggot judges wanting to see our "legs" for jerk-off purposes :-X :-X :-X

bunch of fucking g@ylords these judges appear to be :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 04:37:02 PM
don't worry ma man, it's just these f@ggot judges wanting to see our "legs" for jerk-off purposes :-X :-X :-X

bunch of fucking g@ylords these judges appear to be :-X :-X :-X

You'd be surprised how many women are into good leg development. I think mr. nobody probably has the best calves out of all of us if they're proportionate with his bis. Gonna look for his pic.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 04:39:35 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=388639;image)

Not too shabby.

The bi's look amazing.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
You'd be surprised how many women are into good leg development. I think mr. nobody probably has the best calves out of all of us if they're proportionate with his bis. Gonna look for his pic.

yeah i know man, i'm just talking smack ;)

and my girl always let's me know that my calves are behind my quads >:(

i guess that i'm lucky to be hooked up with such a physique expert like she, and the funny thing is... she also told me that my back and shoulders are ahead of my chest and arms LOL! (yeah, she is a expert and i'm rather impressed ;D)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 04:47:14 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=388639;image)

Not too shabby.

The bi's look amazing.

yeah, he's got bis no doubt, but my STRUCTURE shits all over his ;D ;D ;D (J/K Mr. N)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
these are calves attached to good 'strings'...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 02, 2013, 06:03:01 PM
^
nice fridge.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 02, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=193061.0;attach=388639;image)

Not too shabby.

The bi's look amazing.
Thank you sir. I didn't have calves at all but worked the hell out of them in order to get on stage, because I knew if I got on stage with no calves = no win.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 02, 2013, 06:19:08 PM
these are calves attached to good 'strings'...
Some good calves for being a bit high attachments.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2013, 06:47:41 PM
Some good calves for being a bit high attachments.
thanks,,thats why i say u work with what u have,,genetically i had something but i added size by training them 3x wk when i was kid,,i do them 2x per wk different things/re[s/weight,,theres is hope for dj....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 02, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
thanks,,thats why i say u work with what u have,,genetically i had something but i added size by training them 3x wk when i was kid,,i do them 2x per wk different things/re[s/weight,,theres is hope for dj....
Spot on, you got what you got but dj won't work his says he don't care. Barracho challenged him to a calf contest he declined.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 02, 2013, 06:58:18 PM
Spot on, you got what you got but dj won't work his says he don't care. Barracho challenged him to a calf contest he declined.
lol...there doing the right thing ..taking it for real  i like it,,,the g/o board this would have been bullshit ,,talk all talk no backing up ...if i post pics there from yesterday or day befor or month ago dosen't matter i'm always in top or close to top shape for me,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 02, 2013, 11:34:42 PM
regarding calves...

who are the manliest men? black men that's who, and guess who has the shittest calves :D :D :D

does that tell ya something ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 05:29:51 AM
regarding calves...

who are the manliest men? black men that's who, and guess who has the shittest calves :D :D :D

does that tell ya something ;)


 ???


(http://dam.cloud.kargo.com/access/show/id/MobileWAP.Usmag:MagicJohnsonsSonEj_1364939433/ds/resize/width/265/file.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 05:33:08 AM
???


(http://dam.cloud.kargo.com/access/show/id/MobileWAP.Usmag:MagicJohnsonsSonEj_1364939433/ds/resize/width/265/file.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

mmm.... i must have been wrong somewhere along the line :-X :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 03, 2013, 05:43:30 AM
DJ UR NOT BLACK  :P,,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 05:51:55 AM
DJ UR NOT BLACK  :P,,,,,

i know :'( :'( :'(

i used to wish that i was when i was playing a bit of b-ball, and when i had a wish to have a bigger d!ck... but it is true that i can't swim, so at least i got 2 out of 4 traits ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 11:08:17 AM
So what's the judging criteria for this event again, just leaness ?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 11:12:45 AM
So what's the judging criteria for this event again, just leaness ?

yep, only leanness
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: wild willie on April 03, 2013, 11:12:53 AM
regarding calves...

who are the manliest men? black men that's who, and guess who has the shittest calves :D :D :D

does that tell ya something ;)

chris dickerson had the greatest calves ever developed by a black man. ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
chris dickerson had the greatest calves ever developed by a black man. ;)
Agreed.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 11:38:27 AM
yep, only leanness
Barracho is being quiet on his condition he may "sneak up" on you if you don't stay on track.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
Barracho is being quiet on his condition he may "sneak up" on you if you don't stay on track.

I WILL be sitting @ SSSSSUUUUUUBBBBBB-6 come april 17th MARK MY WORDS ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 01:48:36 PM
I WILL be sitting @ SSSSSUUUUUUBBBBBB-6 come april 17th MARK MY WORDS ;)
What about a left side intercostal/serratus side tricep pose for criteria?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 02:10:14 PM
What about a left side intercostal/serratus side tricep pose for criteria?

i can do an ab close-up i guess, since i've been blessed with a very tight narrow and slim waistline 8)

p.s. this tight slim and narrow waistline IS the FOCAL POINT for aesthetic beauty ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 02:15:11 PM
Barracho is being quiet on his condition he may "sneak up" on you if you don't stay on track.

There will be striations...I'll take a lot of shots for you guys to look at and pick apart. This thing is based on leaness but I'd be interested in both you and njflex's opinions on which one of us has better proportion and symmetry. Or just a comparison by whatever you two deem necessary/relevant.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 02:15:43 PM
i can do an ab close-up i guess, since i've been blessed with a very tight narrow and slim waistline 8)

p.s. this tight slim and narrow waistline IS the FOCAL POINT for aesthetic beauty ;)
Are you saying that you can beat Barracho in that pose?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
i can do an ab close-up i guess, since i've been blessed with a very tight narrow and slim waistline 8)

p.s. this tight slim and narrow waistline IS the FOCAL POINT for aesthetic beauty ;)


Of course but you need muscle to make it beautiful  ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 02:24:44 PM
There will be striations...I'll take a lot of shots for you guys to look at and pick apart. This thing is based on leaness but I'd be interested in both you and njflex's opinions on which one of us has better proportion and symmetry. Or just a comparison by whatever you two deem necessary/relevant.

i agree with this, but remember.... i'm still a work in progress and i won't be finished with everything till fall

as it now stands i'm working on bringing up my arms and chest to match my delts and back

and again.... FUCK CALVES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Are you saying that you can beat Barracho in that pose?

the only one here who can match my waistline is che

Of course but you need muscle to make it beautiful  ;)

agreed, but i don't want to be any bigger than this

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 02:30:46 PM
i agree with this, but remember.... i'm still a work in progress and i won't be finished with everything till fall

as it now stands i'm working on bringing up my arms and chest to match my delts and back

and again.... FUCK CALVES >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Well... look at the thread title lol


the only one here who can match my waistline is che

MAYBE your waist measures smaller than mine but remember? ....all an illusion  ;)

agreed, but i don't want to be any bigger than this



I'm not much bigger than that guy...but more balanced for sure.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 02:36:29 PM
I'm not much bigger than that guy...but more balanced for sure.

i'm curious, what do you think that fellas strengths and weakenesses are?

and please don't say calves :D :D :D

CHRIST!!!!! you dudes and even my girl are gonna give me nightmares about fucking calves, so STFU about them >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 02:38:38 PM
Well... look at the thread title lol

MAYBE your waist measures smaller than mine but remember? ....all an illusion  ;)

I'm not much bigger than that guy...but more balanced for sure.
Yea the thread title says something about calves I think.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 02:39:05 PM
i'm curious, what do you think that fellas strengths and weakenesses are?

and please don't say calves :D :D :D

CHRIST!!!!! you dudes and even my girl are gonna give me nightmares about fucking calves, so STFU about them >:( >:( >:(

Saw another video of the guy doing delts...no back at all. When I wear a wife beater my back sticks out like a mofo.

old crappy pic...not even centered but you get the point.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
Saw another video of the guy doing delts...no back at all. When I wear a wife beater my back sticks out like a mofo.

old crappy pic...not even centered but you get the point.
Low lats good genes ala Franco Columbo. Barracho.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 02:43:07 PM
Yea the thread title says something about calves I think.

We're all a work in progress that was my point...

Fuck now I'm talking shit.

Low lats good genes ala Franco Columbo. Barracho.

Thanks mr. nobody...blessed with a small waist also.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
So...we know I'm bigger than dj.

When you guys get the pics....number 1 will be to determine who is the leanest. And then you guys can do a comparison of what you see bodybuilding wise...you two have competed so you know what to look at. If dj wants to send just upper body that's cool but I'll send as many pics to you guys just to get some feedback..

cool?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 02:50:01 PM
well man, i'm gonna send out some wheel shots coz IMO my wheels are almost as good as my lats and delts, and they are ahead of my arms and chest

and when i say "wheels" i'm talking about my UPPER LEGS, not fucking calves

i'll also send all these shots to you as well B ma man
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 02:55:00 PM
So...we know I'm bigger than dj.

When you guys get the pics....number 1 will be to determine who is the leanest. And then you guys can do a comparison of what you see bodybuilding wise...you two have competed so you know what to look at. If dj wants to send just upper body that's cool but I'll send as many pics to you guys just to get some feedback..

cool?
Yes you are bigger dj knows that. So 1st leanest and if a tie we go to overall symmetry. We need another judge me and Nflix isnt enough need three in case of a draw.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
Yes you are bigger dj knows that. So 1st leanest and if a tie we go to overall symmetry. We need another judge me and Nflix isnt enough need three in case of a draw.

Do a comparison of who is more symmetrical for the fun of it. Give you guys something more interesting to do. And yeah maybe a third judge would be good....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 03:09:10 PM
Do a comparison of who is more symmetrical for the fun of it. Give you guys something more interesting to do. And yeah maybe a third judge would be good....
I'll try looking for another judge. I suspect dj won't go for it but hey whatever you two decide.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 03:11:58 PM
I'll try looking for another judge. I suspect dj won't go for it but hey whatever you two decide.

i got plenty of haters here ma man, so choose carefully ;)

maybe ma man che would be up for it, or even gayleniko ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 03:16:47 PM
i got plenty of haters here ma man, so choose carefully ;)

maybe ma man che would be up for it, or even gayleniko ;D
So will you do a symmetrical shot as Borracho suggests? No points deducted just as a overall opinion.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 03:22:29 PM
So will you do a symmetrical shot as Borracho suggests? No points deducted just as a overall opinion.

i'm not sure exactly what pics i'll send yet, but i'll def do a back double bi and a front relaxed

i'll probably also do a close-up flexed bi coz i told you that my bis are much better than you think they are so i'll prove it to you 8) can you say split peak ;)

also i'll most likely do a close-up wheel shot

i don't wanna take a shitload of pics, so i ain't no finished product just yet

as i said before, i can do a bodybuilding comp with B in sept/oct if he agrees coz after i get lean i'll stay lean while adding LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE where needed ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 03:38:24 PM
i'm not sure exactly what pics i'll send yet, but i'll def do a back double bi and a front relaxed

i'll probably also do a close-up flexed bi coz i told you that my bis are much better than you think they are so i'll prove it to you 8) can you say split peak ;)

also i'll most likely do a close-up wheel shot

i don't wanna take a shitload of pics, so i ain't no finished product just yet

as i said before, i can do a bodybuilding comp with B in sept/oct if he agrees coz after i get lean i'll stay lean while adding LEAN MUSCLE TISSUE where needed ;)
So criteria now is just leaness but from what pose? See we got to set the pose or it's difficult to tell from a different pose selection.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 03:43:11 PM
So criteria now is just leaness but from what pose? See we got to set the pose or it's difficult to tell from a different pose selection.

a front shot and a back shot of course

i nominate front relaxed and back double bi

but i'm up for something else if ma man B would like to propose something else
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 03:50:30 PM
full frontal nudes ?  :D

You know.... whatever mr.nobody thinks is necessary...he did the mr.getbig before....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 03:57:40 PM
full frontal nudes ?  :D

You know.... whatever mr.nobody thinks is necessary...he did the mr.getbig before....
I say front relaxed, side left, back relaxed, side right, ab pose thigh extended.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 03, 2013, 03:59:21 PM
I have no problem with that.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 03, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
I say front relaxed, side left, back relaxed, side right, ab pose thigh extended.

ok i agree to all sans ab/thigh (coz i still ain't sure if i'll even send a leg shot yet)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 03, 2013, 04:40:08 PM
ok i agree to all sans ab/thigh (coz i still ain't sure if i'll even send a leg shot yet)
Ok.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 04, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
dj seems very tired lately can he withstand the onslaught of Barracho?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 04, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
dj seems very tired lately can he withstand the onslaught of Barracho?

who?!

i'm just being coy ma man

coz come game day ima gonna BRING IT 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 04, 2013, 01:07:52 PM
who?!

i'm just being coy ma man

coz come game day ima gonna BRING IT 8)
Barracho is staying quiet he's gonna reveal a lean mean muscle machine it seems but we'll see the countdown is on.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 04, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
Barracho is staying quiet he's gonna reveal a lean mean muscle machine it seems but we'll see the countdown is on.

Oh its on....this is gonna be the battle of the century. The world will never be the same!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 06:19:38 AM
Oh its on....this is gonna be the battle of the century. The world will never be the same!!!

you know B, i was thinking.....

after we do this leanest contest, instead of doing a "bodybuilding contest" we should do a "which physique can pull more hot ass contest" 8) 8) 8)

and of course the judges for this contest shouldn't be mr. n and nj, since they are just a couple of g@ylords, we would actually need hot ass females to properly judge this contest, since we want to know which of our bodies makes thier tight hot pussies wetter :P ;) ;D 8)

i'm taking female judges like dis...

(http://spotted.heraldtribune.com/images/100047/photos/2011/06/24/zoom/2379913.jpg)

(http://modelingcrimes.com/images/hot100.jpg)

(http://image.rockfordnightout.com/images/album/11/Hooters%20Bikini%20Contest%20Finals/home.jpg)

(http://swimweardaily.com/100ht.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2013, 06:28:07 AM
you know B, i was thinking.....

after we do this leanest contest, instead of doing a "bodybuilding contest" we should do a "which physique can pull more hot ass contest" 8) 8) 8)

and of course the judges for this contest shouldn't be mr. n and nj, since they are just a couple of g@ylords, we would actually need hot ass females to properly judge this contest, since we want to know which of our bodies makes thier tight hot pussies wetter :P ;) ;D 8)

i'm taking female judges like dis...

(http://spotted.heraldtribune.com/images/100047/photos/2011/06/24/zoom/2379913.jpg)
ok...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 07:09:10 AM
ok...

you 2 dudes can join this contest if you want

but remember....

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 05, 2013, 07:28:40 AM
It's getting harder to tolerate dj181 on these low calories.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 07:32:57 AM
It's getting harder to tolerate dj181 on these low calories.

use that negative energy to drive ya brother, coz you gonna need it 8)

and btw, how low is low?

it seems that i'll hit my goal of hitting sub-6 on bout 1800 cals per day, and i won't have to go any lower ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 05, 2013, 09:12:59 AM
you know B, i was thinking.....

after we do this leanest contest, instead of doing a "bodybuilding contest" we should do a "which physique can pull more hot ass contest" 8) 8) 8)

and of course the judges for this contest shouldn't be mr. n and nj, since they are just a couple of g@ylords, we would actually need hot ass females to properly judge this contest, since we want to know which of our bodies makes thier tight hot pussies wetter :P ;) ;D 8)

i'm taking female judges like dis...


Ask Booty she might judge.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 09:14:54 AM
Ask Booty she might judge.

booty isn't hot enough

maybe my x-wifey would be up for it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 05, 2013, 09:24:25 AM
booty isn't hot enough

maybe my x-wifey would be up for it ;D ;D ;D
She will charge you Alimony.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 10:38:17 AM
She will charge you Alimony.

lol

so are you interested in this fall challenge stud ;)

p.s. be prepared to be shocked by my progress 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 05, 2013, 11:13:35 AM
lol

so are you interested in this fall challenge stud ;)

p.s. be prepared to be shocked by my progress 8)
What's a fall challenge?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 05, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
What's fall challenge?
pussy pulling build,,,who's best,,female judge lol...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 05, 2013, 11:23:38 AM
pussy pulling build,,,who's best,,female judge lol...
I see. I might engage let me talk with Obama first before I commit.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 11:32:38 AM
I see. I might engage let me talk with Obama first before I commit.

translation=i know dj would win it, so i'll try and avoid a direct answer ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 05, 2013, 05:53:12 PM
translation=i know dj would win it, so i'll try and avoid a direct answer ;)
So how low on cals are willing to to go to keep Barracho from defeating you? 12 days left.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 05, 2013, 05:58:20 PM
So how low on cals are willing to to go to keep Barracho from defeating you? 12 days left.

well i'm on bout 1600-1800 cals per day now, so if need be i guess that i could go down to bout 1200 the last few days

but... dis B chumpo ain't got no fucking chance ;D ;D ;D

STRUCTURE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"size"
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 01:32:55 AM
B be going down!

adios amigo :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
B be going down!

adios amigo :-*
Barracho staying "under wraps at the moment" he may come out with the guns blazing.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 01:42:43 AM
Barracho staying "under wraps at the moment" he may come out with the guns blazing.

 ;D ;D ;D

'hand guns are made for killing, they ain't no good for nothing else"

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 07:30:16 AM
B is mighty silent nowadays

me thinks that he's hit the panic button lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 07:35:36 AM
B is mighty silent nowadays

me thinks that he's hit the panic button lol
He has been working on negotiations with North Korea.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 06, 2013, 07:45:03 AM
He has been working on negotiations with North Korea.

This is correct.

No panic dj...I have your pics to ease my mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 07:56:59 AM
He has been working on negotiations with North Korea.

yep, i heard that he was a jack of all trades but a master of none :'(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 11:34:26 AM
I'm trying to get Willgrant as another judge waiting on his reply we need 3. See if it's just me and NJ comes to a tie we'll need another opinion. dj says he is ripped and Barracho is under wraps we don't know what we are facing.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
so are ya saying that B's the strong silent type, mr. n?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
so are ya saying that B's the strong silent type, mr. n?
Maybe so he probably has a long black coat on right now eating 1500 cals mad as hell due to starvation. I have had people tell me a tall big dude quiet walking slow is scary so watch out. Actually I had that said to me before true.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
I'm trying to get Willgrant as another judge waiting on his reply we need 3. See if it's just me and NJ comes to a tie we'll need another opinion. dj says he is ripped and Barracho is under wraps we don't know what we are facing.
8).....i've been enjoying logging on lately ,,betwwen here/mature thread i'm there all the time/workout chaos thread in y board/some g/o stuff/my threads i update pics as bad as musclecenter now lol,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on April 06, 2013, 12:22:11 PM
8).....i've been enjoying logging on lately ,,betwwen here/mature thread i'm there all the time/workout chaos thread in y board/some g/o stuff/my threads i update pics as bad as musclecenter now lol,,,
you are a good man ..always positive,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:23:09 PM
you are a good man ..always positive,
:D,,,someone has to keep sanity here,,nobody runs this thread tho,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 12:24:01 PM
8).....i've been enjoying logging on lately ,,betwwen here/mature thread i'm there all the time/workout chaos thread in y board/some g/o stuff/my threads i update pics as bad as musclecenter now lol,,,
Y board is cool I post my workouts there sometimes, yea chaos a good dude will bust your chops now and then but hey the way it is around here, you got your pics on soapy studs on the Y board? Thats the reference point on the Y.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:25:25 PM
Y board is cool I post my workouts there sometimes, yea chaos a good dude will bust your chops now and then but hey the way it is around here, you got your pics on soapy studs on the Y board? Thats the reference point on the Y.
yeah a few and our boy nzzmuscle approved me lol,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 12:28:01 PM
i update pics as bad as musclecenter now lol,,,

FACT ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 12:30:22 PM
yeah a few and our boy nzzmuscle approved me lol,,,
You are lucky nzz doesnt approve many people.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
FACT ;D
:)...all in good fun,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:34:29 PM
You are lucky nzz doesnt approve many people.
he can crush the ego,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
FACT ;D
Where are they? me and Njflex are waiting.

Njflex has huge veins running through his biceps are you at that point yet?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 12:45:03 PM
Where are they? me and Njflex are waiting.

Njflex has huge veins running through his biceps are you at that point yet?

i'm all about beauty man

STRUCTURE-AESTHETICS-PROPORTION(sans calves ;D) FTMFW

and like i told you by pm, if i stay on the correct course which i'm following now, then i'll be there sometime in sept/oct
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
i know what to expect from borracho,,i'm curious and do think dj is working this hard,,he knows his rep is at stake and no pressure from a 'groink'to diminish his goal here,,we are fair but honest and looking for a mr o build just what he 'say's is his ideal'''and after this we will foward to the fall for full transformation ,,i would like to see a bigger version of his best look,,dj is older now and should be able to put some size with slower metabolism and base he built previous.i offer no training or diet cause he will do his own interpetation anyway,,,more exercises tho there are many angles to achieve maximium density and overall balance/look,,consider this dj for the next round come fall..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 12:46:53 PM
i'm all about beauty man

STRUCTURE-AESTHETICS-PROPORTION(sans calves ;D) FTMFW

and like i told you by pm, if i stay on the correct course which i'm following now, then i'll be there sometime in sept/oct

How will you withstand the onslaught of Barracho if not in top condition?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 12:55:06 PM
i told you dudes that i got lost for awhile ie, boozing and this caused me to "forget" things, like the importance of "diet" also i was still training too much ie. too often

now i'm on the right course FINALLY and that is why i figure i'll max myself out in sept/oct

IMO, my ideal "beauty" is 165-175 @ 6-7% with legit 16 inch arms and a legit 29 inch waist (p.s. my wrist measures all of 6 inches ;))

in fact, i'll look into doing bodyart photos once i am sculpted out, even as narcissist as this sounds i firmly believe that i got what it takes to do this 8)

p.s. i know you guys don't buy it, but believe me, when you see my pecs you'll be shocked at what i did in such a fast time ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 06, 2013, 01:03:58 PM
i told you dudes that i got lost for awhile ie, boozing and this caused me to "forget" things, like the importance of "diet" also i was still training too much ie. too often

now i'm on the right course FINALLY and that is why i figure i'll max myself out in sept/oct

IMO, my ideal "beauty" is 165-175 @ 6-7% with legit 16 inch arms and a legit 29 inch waist (p.s. my wrist measures all of 6 inches ;))

in fact, i'll look into doing bodyart photos once i am sculpted out, even as narcissist as this sounds i firmly believe that i got what it takes to do this 8)

p.s. i know you guys don't buy it, but believe me, when you see my pecs you'll be shocked at what i did in such a fast time ;)
thats cool,,,i'm a stickler for pecs one of my best bodyparts,,,my wrist is all of a shade under 7 i have small joints too and a 17 inch arm,,,i do not have 29 waist but clean/seperated abs ,,i have 9 ankle and 16 calf and quads 25 all on a 5'8 in shoes chassis,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 01:39:53 PM
i told you dudes that i got lost for awhile ie, boozing and this caused me to "forget" things, like the importance of "diet" also i was still training too much ie. too often

now i'm on the right course FINALLY and that is why i figure i'll max myself out in sept/oct

IMO, my ideal "beauty" is 165-175 @ 6-7% with legit 16 inch arms and a legit 29 inch waist (p.s. my wrist measures all of 6 inches ;))

in fact, i'll look into doing bodyart photos once i am sculpted out, even as narcissist as this sounds i firmly believe that i got what it takes to do this 8)

p.s. i know you guys don't buy it, but believe me, when you see my pecs you'll be shocked at what i did in such a fast time ;)
Sounds good but we have no proof, Barracho maybe wearing a long black coat right now "packing" for the shootout.
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Post by: dj181 on April 06, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
Sounds good but we have no proof, Barracho maybe wearing a long black coat right now "packing" for the shootout.

 ;D ;D ;D

come april 17th i'll be at about 66% of my max potential

the REAL ME will appear in sept/oct ;)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 06, 2013, 01:50:02 PM
i know what to expect from borracho,,i'm curious and do think dj is working this hard,,he knows his rep is at stake and no pressure from a 'groink'to diminish his goal here,,we are fair but honest and looking for a mr o build just what he 'say's is his ideal'''and after this we will foward to the fall for full transformation ,,i would like to see a bigger version of his best look,,dj is older now and should be able to put some size with slower metabolism and base he built previous.i offer no training or diet cause he will do his own interpetation anyway,,,more exercises tho there are many angles to achieve maximium density and overall balance/look,,consider this dj for the next round come fall..
Exactly.
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Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 01:43:21 AM
B's silence is a tell-tale sign of FEAR

fear dat he will get his ass handed to him, courtesy of moi :)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 09:04:26 AM
where you at chumpo B?

got my cals down to 1450 and i may go down to 1200 the last few days

ab skinfold is 7-8 mm but i plan to get it down to 5-6 mm

4 mm would be ideal but i don't think that i'll be able to hit 4 mm by the 17th (16th for me, coz that's when i'll have my pics taken)

p.s. my push-ups training loads have been going up rather well and my curl loads have gone up a bit, and i'm going to the sports shop today to get some 20 kg plates so that i can load more weight to the bar for squats ;)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 07, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
where you at chumpo B?

got my cals down to 1450 and i may go down to 1200 the last few days

ab skinfold is 7-8 mm but i plan to get it down to 5-6 mm

4 mm would be ideal but i don't think that i'll be able to hit 4 mm by the 17th (16th for me, coz that's when i'll have my pics taken)

p.s. my push-ups training loads have been going up rather well and my curl loads have gone up a bit, and i'm going to the sports shop today to get some 20 kg plates so that i can load more weight to the bar for squats ;)
Sounds like you are dialing in.
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Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 09:17:58 AM
Sounds like you are dialing in.

we'll see, and this "contest" is basically just a primer for me and i'll be looking for your dudes critique upon which bodyparts of mine still need work

i took my row training loads way down so i'll be curious if my lats lost size

also i'll be training the squats today with the new 20 kg plates and i guess that i'll even throw in some calf raises as well :D :D :D
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Post by: njflex on April 07, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
quiet here today,,someone muzzled dj or is he starving and can't type,,,,
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Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
quiet here today,,someone muzzled dj or is he starving and can't type,,,,

 ;D ;D ;D

nah man, i was just digging on some fine old tunes by some coolass Italian-American fellas 8)



but it does seem that B is losing his edge ;D ;D ;D

p.s. i trained squats this night after i went and bought heavier dumbbell plates since i maxed out what i had for the squats, and i really was gonna hit calf raise, but i said to myself "fuck it!" and just finished off the training session with some weighted crunches
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:18:53 PM
just looking through my training records/journal and i haven't trained calves in over 3 weeks now :D :D :D
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Post by: njflex on April 07, 2013, 05:22:16 PM
;D ;D ;D

nah man, i was just digging on some fine old tunes by some coolass Italian-American fellas 8)



but it does seem that B is losing his edge ;D ;D ;D

p.s. i trained squats this night after i went and bought heavier dumbbell plates since i maxed out what i had for the squats, and i really was gonna hit calf raise, but i said to myself "fuck it!" and just finished off the training session with some weighted crunches
good stuff,,i like four seasons ,,liked franki valli's voice as he got older like my eye's adored ya,swearing to god,to good to be true,,,my father met him and sported same looke in 70's hair wise my dad but with serpico beard,,,my dad has classic italian american look ,snozz,face,me too for most part,,my dad loved this,beach boys,chicago he loves chicago,,,my paren'st saw sinatra few times in 70's /80's...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2013, 05:23:14 PM
just looking through my training records/journal and i haven't trained calves in over 3 weeks now :D :D :D
:-[,,,do em for balance not for this contest,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:25:22 PM
good stuff,,i like four seasons ,,liked franki valli's voice as he got older like my eye's adored ya,swearing to god,to good to be true,,,my father met him and sported same looke in 70's hair wise my dad but with serpico beard,,,my dad has classic italian american look ,snozz,face,me too for most part,,my dad loved this,beach boys,chicago he loves chicago,,,my paren'st saw sinatra few times in 70's /80's...

fucking awesome!

and chicago was boss in the 70's but in the 80's they sold out a bit and lost their edge :'(

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Post by: njflex on April 07, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
fucking awesome!

and chicago was boss in the 70's but in the 80's they sold out a bit and lost their edge :'(


my dad still see's chicago,,, cetera softened there sound,,,the horns are in the forefront still today,,they have some younger guys filling around the veterans,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:30:49 PM
:-[,,,do em for balance not for this contest,,,

i was with my girl last nite, and even she told me that i really need to have them so that everything will be in proportion to look best (yeah, she's sharp and smart girl :))

i told her that i was gonna get these plates today so that i can make my upper thighs bigger and she told me train them too and pointed at my calves ;D 8) :P

but seriously, how do you motivate yourself to train them ??? ??? ??? for me they are just soooooo goddamn boring to train and i just can't motivate myself to train them...

yeah i kinda hate doing squats but i do them anyway coz at least they aren't so fucking boring to train
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:33:52 PM
my dad still see's chicago,,, cetera softened there sound,,,the horns are in the forefront still today,,they have some younger guys filling around the veterans,,,

that's true about cetera softening their sound (and he is in fact a blue-eyed blondie Italian-American dude 8))

thier brass and guitars really set them apart
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 07, 2013, 05:39:29 PM
i was with my girl last nite, and even she told me that i really need to have them so that everything will be in proportion to look best (yeah, she's sharp and smart girl :))

i told her that i was gonna get these plates today so that i can make my upper thighs bigger and she told me train them too and pointed at my calves ;D 8) :P

but seriously, how do you motivate yourself to train them ??? ??? ??? for me they are just soooooo goddamn boring to train and i just can't motivate myself to train them...

yeah i kinda hate doing squats but i do them anyway coz at least they aren't so fucking boring to train
i like doing them,,,bet a thick book ot some type of stand grab a plate 45 and do 1 legged stretch to bottom and flex to top do sets 15/30 4x 2 per week,,and do some partial reps as u get fatigued calves need heavy stimulation and stretch in between sets blood flow accumulates quick in calves,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 07, 2013, 05:39:41 PM
Barrcho has left the scene. Did you scare him off dj with reports of leaness?
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Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:42:12 PM
i like doing them,,,bet a thick book ot some type of stand grab a plate 45 and do 1 legged stretch to bottom and flex to top do sets 15/30 4x 2 per week,,and do some partial reps as u get fatigued calves need heavy stimulation and stretch in between sets blood flow accumulates quick in calves,,

yeah i guess that it's important to get that full stretch at the bottom of the movement and full range of motion as well
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 05:44:14 PM
Barrcho has left the scene. Did you scare him off dj with reports of leaness?

i'd say it has much more to do with my STRUCTURE ;)

tiny, tiny joints, squared off shoulders, and narrowass hips, along with long legs and a medium length torso ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 07, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
Barracho has a good structure as well hence the contest.
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Post by: dj181 on April 07, 2013, 06:05:11 PM
Barracho has a good structure as well hence the contest.

yeah that's true, and that's why he's a worthy adversary for me

in fact, this tune kinda makes me think of him as he is some cool and hip south american dude 8)

i can picture him now in the club moving all sleek and cat-like making all the ladies wet ;D

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 07, 2013, 10:00:02 PM
Barrcho has left the scene. Did you scare him off dj with reports of leaness?

These damn koreans won't budge...gonna need you to come for back up. Bring your shotgun!


Countdown is on dj...  :D
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 01:33:35 AM
These damn koreans won't budge...gonna need you to come for back up. Bring your shotgun!


Countdown is on dj...  :D

how's da calves :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 03:27:48 AM
from me to you B 8) 8) 8)

wot time you got?! me? well it's TIME for me to WIN ;)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 05:34:58 AM
"but you run and you run to catch up to borracho but he's shrinking....dieting down to get shredded up once again!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 06:16:07 AM
how shredded is shredded? ;)
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Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 06:38:20 AM
how shredded is shredded? ;)

.1 % less than you   ;D
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 06:48:44 AM
.1 % less than you   ;D

so if my ab skinfold will be sitting @ 5.6 mm yours will be 5.5 mm oui? :P
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 07:35:58 AM
You guys got to get those calves up, you cant go onstage with no calves. ;D
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 07:53:04 AM
You guys got to get those calves up, you cant go onstage with no calves. ;D

ladies like... tight narrow slim waist, wide shoulders and round bubble ass

FUCK CALVES :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 08:01:00 AM
ladies like... tight narrow slim waist, wide shoulders and round bubble ass

FUCK CALVES :D :D :D :D :D
Njflex and I would like to see a calve contest so as to compare weakest bodyparts.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 08:03:06 AM
Njflex and I would like to see a calve contest so as to compare weakest bodyparts.

well i still haven't decided if i will include leg shots, but if i do then i guess i'll add in a calf shot as well
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 08, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
ladies like... tight narrow slim waist, wide shoulders and round bubble ass

FUCK CALVES :D :D :D :D :D
I HAVE BUBBLE ASS :P.. :-*..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 09:32:41 AM
Njflex and I would like to see a calve contest so as to compare weakest bodyparts.

LMAO
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 12:02:06 PM
LMAO

maybe we should do a "who has the biggest c0ck" contest ;) :)
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Post by: njflex on April 08, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
maybe we should do a "who has the biggest c0ck" contest ;) :)
CHECK PLEASE.....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 12:12:15 PM
lol @ njflex

but dj....cold or with a pump?
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 12:26:29 PM
lol @ njflex

but dj....cold or with a pump?

well man, i'll use this as my warm-up so i think you'd know the answer ;D

(http://papuatattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Candice-Swanepoel-angel-perfect-ass.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 12:33:55 PM
Need girls like that at my gym  :(
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 01:07:31 PM
maybe we should do a "who has the biggest c0ck" contest ;) :)
You might want stay away from from that contest unless you want Mr Nobody step in and wax you all  8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 02:55:57 PM
this dieting is really pissing me the fuck off >:( >:( >:(

the thing is... i really believe that i can gain muscle while losing fat at the same time, but in order to do so i need to take my cals up a bit

fuck! i actually gained muscle while losing fat on bout 2500 cals per day some years back, and i was even a natty at that point in time

i guess what i can do is finish this goddamn fucking diet and then go up to 2500 cals per day and see if i can go back to gaining muscle while losing fat
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 03:53:40 PM
this dieting is really pissing me the fuck off >:( >:( >:(

the thing is... i really believe that i can gain muscle while losing fat at the same time, but in order to do so i need to take my cals up a bit

fuck! i actually gained muscle while losing fat on bout 2500 cals per day some years back, and i was even a natty at that point in time

i guess what i can do is finish this goddamn fucking diet and then go up to 2500 cals per day and see if i can go back to gaining muscle while losing fat
Thats about right maybe 2700 just a bit above maintenance you will gain better on a bit over maintenance but I would not bulk up unless you want to stay that way because all you have to do is lose it again a viscious cycle.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 08, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
this dieting is really pissing me the fuck off >:( >:( >:(

the thing is... i really believe that i can gain muscle while losing fat at the same time, but in order to do so i need to take my cals up a bit

fuck! i actually gained muscle while losing fat on bout 2500 cals per day some years back, and i was even a natty at that point in time

i guess what i can do is finish this goddamn fucking diet and then go up to 2500 cals per day and see if i can go back to gaining muscle while losing fat
'some yrs back'u said it ur older and lost some time not training like u should have,,making up for lost time...thats whats good about human body it goes back if it gets stimulated again,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 04:02:19 PM
Thats about right maybe 2700 just a bit above maintenance you will gain better on a bit over maintenance but I would not bulk up unless you want to stay that way because all you have to do is lose it again a viscious cycle.

but i ain't talking bulking brosef

i'm talking going from 170 @ 7% to 175 @ 5% ;)

gaining roughly 8 pounds of lean muscle tissue while LOSING roughly 3 pounds of bodyfat ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and YES.... IT CAN BE DONE ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
and btw, it looks like i'll be coming in @ 7-8%

i wanted to hit 6% but i don't think that it's gonna happen, but who knows... maybe i don't "see" myself as i really am ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 04:18:19 PM
but i ain't talking bulking brosef

i'm talking going from 170 @ 7% to 175 @ 5% ;)

gaining roughly 8 pounds of lean muscle tissue while LOSING roughly 3 pounds of bodyfat ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and YES.... IT CAN BE DONE ;)
Then stay around 2200 for your size. One cheat a week. Obivously you have been bulking or you wouldn't have to diet as you are now.
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Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 04:27:43 PM
and btw, it looks like i'll be coming in @ 7-8%

i wanted to hit 6% but i don't think that it's gonna happen, but who knows... maybe i don't "see" myself as i really am ???

Impossible ... ;D

Just a few more days brother....hang in there!
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 04:40:37 PM
Then stay around 2200 for your size. One cheat a week. Obivously you have been bulking or you wouldn't have to diet as you are now.

allright, so i'll go to 2200-2400 after this contest and then we'll see what happens

Impossible ... ;D

Just a few more days brother....hang in there!

yep, that's true as it's less than a week now ;D

but seriously, i really can't "see" myself as i really am ???

i guess that i'm my own worst enemy, as that's been said to me a few times before, and it wasn't even Mentzer that said it, as he just called me "The Wild Horse" 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 04:53:20 PM
allright, so i'll go to 2200-2400 after this contest and then we'll see what happens

yep, that's true as it's less than a week now ;D

but seriously, i really can't "see" myself as i really am ???

i guess that i'm my own worst enemy, as that's been said to me a few times before, and it wasn't even Mentzer that said it, as he just called me "The Wild Horse" 8)
So how do you see yourself currently?
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 05:07:15 PM
So how do you see yourself currently?

in a nutshell as not "good enough"

but this shit stems from childhood and my macho uncles calling me a "weak fag" and that i'm not good enough and that kinda shit

maybe it a symptom of narcissism, as i sure as hell am a narcissist

and on a side note i see these ugly, fat toady pollocks walking around all proud and arrogant and i think to myself... "how the fuck do these goddamn toads have this confidence? they look like absolute horseshit" ??? ??? ??? LOL!

but i know you have something similar coz you often tell me about seeing these hot females with fat toady guys ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 05:14:20 PM
in a nutshell as not "good enough"

but this shit stems from childhood and my macho uncles calling me a "weak fag" and that i'm not good enough and that kinda shit

maybe it a symptom of narcissism, as i sure as hell am a narcissist

and on a side note i see these ugly, fat toady pollocks walking around all proud and arrogant and i think to myself... "how the fuck do these goddamn toads have this confidence? they look like absolute horseshit" ??? ??? ??? LOL!

but i know you have something similar coz you often tell me about seeing these hot females with fat toady guys ;D ;D ;D

It's good being a little hard on yourself man....if we weren't we'd never progress. Just a friendly competition to keep us both motivated to lean out a bit. After this when you go back to gaining mode you will respond better than had you stayed at the same bf level.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 05:17:27 PM
in a nutshell as not "good enough"

but this shit stems from childhood and my macho uncles calling me a "weak fag" and that i'm not good enough and that kinda shit

maybe it a symptom of narcissism, as i sure as hell am a narcissist

and on a side note i see these ugly, fat toady pollocks walking around all proud and arrogant and i think to myself... "how the fuck do these goddamn toads have this confidence? they look like absolute horseshit" ??? ??? ??? LOL!

but i know you have something similar coz you often tell me about seeing these hot females with fat toady guys ;D ;D ;D
Yea I see toads everyday with hot girls, but those girls may have a mental problem as well I think maybe a missing or bad father or just feel safe with toads because there is no jealousy. I once dated a girl she said this is not going to work because "you may get more attention than I do" it didnt work. The comments from childhood is what drives you once hurt in childhood it takes a lifetime to overcome hence why you weight lift.
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
thanks for the cool words dudes 8)

anyways, i expect all 3 of you dudes to be honest with me once you see the update pics and to tell me what you really see

i think that my chest has improved but my arms not as much, and i also think that my legs (at least my upper legs ;D) are in pretty decent proportion to my upper bod

and as far as this "attractiveness" gig goes, my girl has been a little bit affected by the pics see saw of my x-wifey, and B and Mr. N maybe kinda know what's up with that since they've seen these pics of x-wifey

and yeah, i know it can be difficult for an attractive female to be with fellas like us, since we can maybe give them some competition within the looks and attractiveness dept ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 05:39:13 PM
Exactly.

Now for this showdown I suggest the minimum of 4 mandatory poses there are 7 in competing.

Front relaxed pose.
Quarter turn to the right, side chest.
Back lat spread,
Front ab shot, hands behind the head.
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 05:53:32 PM
Exactly.

Now for this showdown I suggest the minimum of 4 mandatory poses there are 7 in competing.

Front relaxed pose.
Quarter turn to the right, side chest.
Back lat spread,
Front ab shot, hands behind the head.

let's just say we can send whatever poses we want with the only ones being mandatory as... 1. front relaxed 2. back relaxed 3. side relaxed

i'm not ready for a BB comp at this point in time as the focus is now only upon LEANNESS

in fact for leanness we could both just send an ab shot as that basically gives the proper indication of one's level of leanness, but i'll send just a few extras so you dudes can judge my proportions and tell me my weaknesses

remember Mr. N, i'm stubborn as fuck and i didn't easily get this name of Wild Horse from Mr. Mentzer ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 05:55:19 PM
thanks for the cool words dudes 8)

anyways, i expect all 3 of you dudes to be honest with me once you see the update pics and to tell me what you really see

i think that my chest has improved but my arms not as much, and i also think that my legs (at least my upper legs ;D) are in pretty decent proportion to my upper bod

and as far as this "attractiveness" gig goes, my girl has been a little bit affected by the pics see saw of my x-wifey, and B and Mr. N maybe kinda know what's up with that since they've seen these pics of x-wifey

and yeah, i know it can be difficult for an attractive female to be with fellas like us, since we can maybe give them some competition within the looks and attractiveness dept ;D ;D ;D

 8)

We'll be brutally honest and I expect the same.

So tired...

Exactly.

Now for this showdown I suggest the minimum of 4 mandatory poses there are 7 in competing.

Front relaxed pose.
Quarter turn to the right, side chest.
Back lat spread,
Front ab shot, hands behind the head.

I'll get those out to you guys...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 05:56:43 PM
let's just say we can send whatever poses we want with the only ones being mandatory as... 1. front relaxed 2. back relaxed 3. side relaxed

i'm not ready for a BB comp at this point in time as the focus is now only upon LEANNESS

in fact for leanness we could both just send an ab shot as that basically gives the proper indication of one's level of leanness, but i'll send just a few extras so you dudes can judge my proportions and tell me my weaknesses

remember Mr. N, i'm stubborn as fuck and i didn't easily get this name of Wild Horse from Mr. Mentzer ;D ;D ;D
Yea I know you are but Barracho has to agree.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 06:03:28 PM
Yea I know you are but Barracho has to agree.

well i ain't gonna do no ab shot or rear lat spread, so if that takes points off for me then so be it

REMEMBER... this IS NOT a "who has the best physique contest" IT IS... "who has the least bodyfat"

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 06:05:45 PM
Yea I know you are but Barracho has to agree.

As long as you think you have enough to compare leaness I'm ok with it. Sending more pics may be beneficial since we all don't distribute fat evenly is that correct mr. n?

well i ain't gonna do no ab shot or rear lat spread, so if that takes points off for me then so be it

REMEMBER... this IS NOT a "who has the best physique contest" IT IS... "who has the least bodyfat"



Whats wrong with your lat spread and ab shot?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 06:06:46 PM
You dont have to answer that dj....I'm gonna get some shut eye.

Later guys!
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Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
and here's a great song to chill to... it's just too fucking bad that it's sooooo goddamn short >:( >:( >:(

"going through security i held her for so long, she finally looked at me and loved, and she was gone....."

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 08, 2013, 06:09:27 PM
As long as you think you have enough to compare leaness I'm ok with it. Sending more pics may be beneficial since we all don't distribute fat evenly is that correct mr. n?

Whats wrong with your lat spread and ab shot?
This is true Barracho that's why I suggested 4 poses so you got comparsion all over for leaness. But you and dj have to agree on the shots or come to terms.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 08, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
Whats wrong with your lat spread and ab shot?

honest answer?

ok, i'll tell you...

my uncles told me that men who pose like that are fucking pussies and that real men play sports like football, baseball, and boxing where one can get hurt, not f@gs who wear tiny bikinis and parade around posing thier muscles

yeah man, that shit still affects me to this day :-\ :-\ :-\

anyways, if you got a great fucking body you can just stand there relaxed and everyone can see how great your bod is without having to "flex" it
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 08, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
This is true Barracho that's why I suggested 4 poses so you got comparsion all over for leaness. But you and dj have to agree on the shots or come to terms.

You're right....we'll get it sorted out within the coming days.

honest answer?

ok, i'll tell you...

my uncles told me that men who pose like that are fucking pussies and that real men play sports like football, baseball, and boxing where one can get hurt, not f@gs who wear tiny bikinis and parade around posing thier muscles

yeah man, that shit still affects me to this day :-\ :-\ :-\

anyways, if you got a great fucking body you can just stand there relaxed and everyone can see how great your bod is without having to "flex" it

Was your uncle a getbigger by any chance?  :D

..sounds like a jerk.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 01:10:20 AM
Was your uncle a getbigger by any chance?  :D

..sounds like a jerk.


you mean the 3 of my uncles, and yeah they are all pretty much assholes, but one of them moreso than the others

he is ALOT like groin in fact :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 01:54:12 AM
check the 6-7% and 10-12% pics here

it seems to me that diff btw them is much less than presented here, basically that the "fatter" one isn't really that much "fatter" he's just "wetter"

what are your dudes thoughts on this?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/66622_410523479037003_1269466682_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 05:24:15 AM
Funny how theres no 8-9...

6-7 looks more like 5-6 to me.

10-12 looks accurate....

Only difference I see in 15 and 20 is a tan.

The difference between a 6 and 10 should be pretty clear imo...otherwise we wouldn't be suffering right now. Girls could care less though...probably prefer us at 10%  :-\
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 05:39:32 AM
THE FIRST 2 ARE BASICALLY CONTEST SHAPE FOR 2 EXTREMES MOST WHO COMPETE FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY ,,,YEAH 8/9 IS STILL PRETTY RIPPED AND HARD LOOKING ITS NOT THERE,,10/12 IS SKINNY GUY WITH ABS AND SOFT OTHERWISE..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 05:46:20 AM
THE FIRST 2 ARE BASICALLY CONTEST SHAPE FOR 2 EXTREMES MOST WHO COMPETE FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY ,,,YEAH 8/9 IS STILL PRETTY RIPPED AND HARD LOOKING ITS NOT THERE,,10/12 IS SKINNY GUY WITH ABS AND SOFT OTHERWISE..

You're pretty lean year round nj...

I wonder what would happen if you manipulated your water at your bf level right now...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:07:29 AM
I ask this because I know how much water retention can change the way you look. It's hard for me to differentiate what is water and what is fat even in myself at times. But random fluctuations in appearance gives me a general idea....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
THE FIRST 2 ARE BASICALLY CONTEST SHAPE FOR 2 EXTREMES MOST WHO COMPETE FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY ,,,YEAH 8/9 IS STILL PRETTY RIPPED AND HARD LOOKING ITS NOT THERE,,10/12 IS SKINNY GUY WITH ABS AND SOFT OTHERWISE..
Spot on thats the way see it as well.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 10:50:08 AM
I am hearing through the Grapevine that Barracho is jacked and tanned has veins standing out everywhere. dj might want to pick up the pace about a week left.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 10:59:08 AM
B may have a chance now, but come sept/oct only ma man che will be able to match my beauty ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:02:33 AM
B may have a chance now, but come sept/oct only ma man che will be able to match my beauty ;)

I see dj is back to his old narcissistic self today.  :D
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Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 11:07:22 AM
I see dj is back to his old narcissistic self today.  :D
WHAT IS DJ'S BUILD PERCEPTION OF BEAUTY ,,,I LIKE ZANE LIKE HE DOES...WELL ZANE HAD GREAT PROPORTIONS AND SHAPE,,BUT HE HAD FREAKY CONTEST HARDNESS AND SEPERATION IN TOP SHAPE A VERY HARD CONDITION TO GET IN ESPECIALLY IF UR NOT USING MORE ADVANCED DRUGS OTHER THAN SUPERDROL...IF UR SAYING AND 'BORRACHO'UR TO YOUNG TO REMEMBER ZANES LOL SOLOFLEX ADS THEN MAYBE HE LOOKED VERY GOOD IN THEM JUST NOT 'DRY'ZANE SHREDDED LOOK.I LOVED HIS BUILD ...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:11:29 AM
You know what they say nj...beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol
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Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 11:14:12 AM
this is FUCKING BEAUTIFUL :P :P :P :P

P-E-R-F-E-C-T ;)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc7to3RTMe1r30l77o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 11:16:01 AM
this is FUCKING BEAUTIFUL :P :P :P :P

P-E-R-F-E-C-T ;)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc7to3RTMe1r30l77o1_400.gif)
Is that Barracho mars said he a vein like that in his arm.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:21:45 AM
Is that Barracho mars said he a vein like that in his arm.

Yeah that was a few months ago when I was on the tomato, chocolate low heme iron falcon diet.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
Yeah that was a few months ago when I was on the tomato, chocolate low heme iron falcon diet.

lol

i'm doing ma weighted push-ups RIGHT NOW brothers and going fo a new PR baby!!!!

here's the tune dat i be listening to fo motivation

"you better stay home and do as you're told, got outta the road if ya wanna grow old...."

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:27:16 AM
That is the most underrated pink floyd album. Love the instrumentals on that!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 11:32:24 AM
'YOUNG LUST'I NEED A DIRTY WOMAN,,,I NEED A DIRTY GIRL,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
actually i did the push-ups to this tune and i added 5 kg extra and i got 7 reps til failure with 45 kg added

so i went from 40kgx8 to 45x7 so definite improvement and on very low cals ie. 1500-1700 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:36:20 AM
'YOUNG LUST'I NEED A DIRTY WOMAN,,,I NEED A DIRTY GIRL,,,

That's a great track but it sounds like you might have something/someone on your mind  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 11:39:06 AM
That's a great track but it sounds like you might have something/someone on your mind  ;D
YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YA DON'T EAT YA MEAT...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 11:40:17 AM
YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YA DON'T EAT YA MEAT...

ahaha that guy sounds so annoying.

any color you like dj....first time I heard it I though I was on another planet.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
That's a great track but it sounds like you might have something/someone on your mind  ;D
:D,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 12:39:07 PM
just curious B what's your height and weight?

my IDEAL would be 175 to 180 MAX @ 5'11" and @ 6-7%

in my peak pics i was only 154 @ sub-6 so 20-25 pounds of pure lean muscle tissue added to that is more than enough

hell, even 10 pounds of added lean muscle might be enough

honestly, i think "big guys" look like fucking toads, especially thier bigass legs :-X :-X :-X

sleek and cat-like is where it's at baby!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 12:56:55 PM
just sent this to Mr. N and it's my plan stan ;D

as i told you before, i'll be finished with the body beautiful around sept/oct, and here's how it will work out, in my opinion/feeling...

i'll fully develop out legs and chest by june or so, and then i'll have to spend the last 2 or 3 months fully developing the calf and bicep, and after that, it will be finished ;)
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Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 01:16:39 PM
btw B, how you dealing wit da hunger dude?

i had bout 1800 cals today and now ima gonna drink some strongass black coffee to kill my goddamn hunger >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 01:21:16 PM
btw B, how you dealing wit da hunger dude?

i had bout 1800 cals today and now ima gonna drink some strongass black coffee to kill my goddamn hunger >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Time is ticking.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 01:25:24 PM
Time is ticking.

 8) 8) 8)

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Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
just took a closer look at my abs, and yeah,,,, they are starting to come in 8) 8) 8)

and remember... "you invent the future that you want to face"

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 04:26:55 PM
hey B!

is dis you @ 2:42 wit da 5 sexy ladies 'round you ;D ;D ;D

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Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 05:10:05 PM
just curious B what's your height and weight?

my IDEAL would be 175 to 180 MAX @ 5'11" and @ 6-7%

in my peak pics i was only 154 @ sub-6 so 20-25 pounds of pure lean muscle tissue added to that is more than enough

hell, even 10 pounds of added lean muscle might be enough

honestly, i think "big guys" look like fucking toads, especially thier bigass legs :-X :-X :-X

sleek and cat-like is where it's at baby!!!!


We all have different goals...I can't hate on the ones that wanna take the bbing thing to the max and get as big as possible. But that's not for me...regular everyday people(girls) still appreciate my build. If you look at the dark pic a few pages back I think you'd agree I look fit in clothes and not bber big.

Numbers are very deceiving too you know this. I weigh like 200 pounds give or take 5 pounds depending if I'm depleted or not and my height is 5'9 barefoot. That hasn't been an issue since I grew up in a predominantly Italian Canadian neighborhood and you know that people from Southern Europe aren't the tallest on average. Thank god I didn't grow up in Germany or former Yugoslavia otherwise I truly woulda been a midget.

I don't look like I weigh 200 lbs and that's fine with me ....people usually think I weigh less.

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
btw B, how you dealing wit da hunger dude?

i had bout 1800 cals today and now ima gonna drink some strongass black coffee to kill my goddamn hunger >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Forgot to mention in my previous post not to concern yourself with numbers too much. Just train and eat properly and the results will come.

Hunger is always there it seems but I just keep my mind occupied. Chewing gum, drinking coffee, water...that helps. I don't smoke but I even considered having a few today to kill hunger..lol. But nah just gonna tough it out.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
wow! yeah i'm shocked that you weigh 2 bills @ 5'9" :o :o :o

and i'm also shocked that gayleniko and bouncer weigh as much as they do, maybe their bones are made out of titanium lol

and by the way, whadda ya bench ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 05:21:47 PM
Forgot to mention in my previous post not to concern yourself with numbers too much. Just train and eat properly and the results will come.

yeah, and Mr. N and ukjeff also tell me to forget about the tape measure and skinfold calipers, but it's a hard thing to do for a German precision mind like mine ;)

as Germanic peoples basically created NASA and precision automobiles like Mercedes and BMW, and Porsche

btw, did i also tell you that Mentzer, Zane, and Arnold are all fellas of Germanic origin 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 05:29:27 PM
The mirror tells all measure all you want.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 05:35:10 PM
(http://rojrunning.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/kitty-504x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 05:43:10 PM
yeah, and Mr. N and ukjeff also tell me to forget about the tape measure and skinfold calipers, but it's a hard thing to do for a German precision mind like mine ;)

as Germanic peoples basically created NASA and precision automobiles like Mercedes and BMW, and Porsche

btw, did i also tell you that Mentzer, Zane, and Arnold are all fellas of Germanic origin 8) 8) 8)

YES....numerous times.

Cute pic above....lol

So how much percentage German blood do you have EXACTLY?  :D

And man...shoulders have been giving me problems for a long time on and off. Always dreaded doing chest because of that but I've concentrated more on inclines. Was inclining 110 pound db for a good 8 reps a few months back and shoulder started acting up again..not impressive but I've never focused on strength too much anyway. Just been doing a lot of fly movements recently and some machine presses....sucks!



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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 05:43:41 PM
(http://rojrunning.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/kitty-504x600.jpg)
Hah a good one.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 05:47:05 PM
YES....numerous times.

Cute pic above....lol

So how much percentage German blood do you have EXACTLY?  :D

And man...shoulders have been giving me problems for a long time on and off. Always dreaded doing chest because of that but I've concentrated more on inclines. Was inclining 110 pound db for a good 8 reps a few months back and shoulder started acting up again..not impressive but I've never focused on strength too much anyway. Just been doing a lot of fly movements recently and some machine presses....sucks!




Just use machines no DB flyes, Pec deck and Smith machine until the shoulder heals.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Just use machines no DB flyes, Pec deck and Smith machine until the shoulder heals.

Yeah thanks mr.n ...I've been doing the pre exhaust with chest as well as you and donny recommended. Not concerned with size anymore just wanna bring up the lagging parts. Calves may need implants however...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
YES....numerous times.

Cute pic above....lol

So how much percentage German blood do you have EXACTLY?  :D

And man...shoulders have been giving me problems for a long time on and off. Always dreaded doing chest because of that but I've concentrated more on inclines. Was inclining 110 pound db for a good 8 reps a few months back and shoulder started acting up again..not impressive but I've never focused on strength too much anyway. Just been doing a lot of fly movements recently and some machine presses....sucks!





i'm about 50% German/Austrian and about 40% Anglo-Saxon (who are basically Germans and Danes who raped the fuck out of England and made her thier own 8)) and about 10% FRENCH (that's where my handsome looks come from i'd say ;))

i never got shit from flies or pec-deck, but hopefully they work for you brosef
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Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:04:10 PM
So ashamed of being American....haha just fucking with ya!

Hows the coffee working out for ya??

I can drink a lot and still fall asleep...lethargy is setting in.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:06:58 PM
So ashamed of being American....haha just fucking with ya!

Hows the coffee working out for ya??

I can drink a lot and still fall asleep...lethargy is setting in.
Caffeine works in strange ways if you are used to it you can fall right asleep drinking it but you give a person caffeine thats not used to it they would not sleep all night.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
So ashamed of being American....haha just fucking with ya!

Hows the coffee working out for ya??

I can drink a lot and still fall asleep...lethargy is setting in.

it's doing me good, coz i was still hungry after my final chicken and broccoli meal, so i had some very strong black coffee and went for a gayass walk :D :D :D

i call it a "gayass walk" coz in my mind real men run and only old ladies and pussies walk (thanks to my uncles macho brainwash of my as a youngen)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
i'm guest posing in this thread,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:15:12 PM
Caffeine works in strange ways if you are used to it you can fall right asleep drinking it but you give a person caffeine thats not used to it they would not sleep all night.

That's it...I have developed a tolerance to the stuff by now.

Theres people that take tyrosine with ephedrine to get the stimulating effects from it after they've been taking it for a while. I wonder if that would work for caffeine too...

I seem to be pretty tolerant to most stimulants except the harder stuff....which I stay away from now.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:16:29 PM
it's doing me good, coz i was still hungry after my final chicken and broccoli meal, so i had some very strong black coffee and went for a gayass walk :D :D :D

i call it a "gayass walk" coz in my mind real men run and only old ladies and pussies walk (thanks to my uncles macho brainwash of my as a youngen)

I think it all depends on how you walk...if you strut....you're ok.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
That's it...I have developed a tolerance to the stuff by now.

Theres people that take tyrosine with ephedrine to get the stimulating effects from it after they've been taking it for a while. I wonder if that would work for caffeine too...

I seem to be pretty tolerant to most stimulants except the harder stuff....which I stay away from now.
Here is the kicker if you tried to quit caffeine you would not be able to sleep well. Caffeine and aspirin work well as a fat burning agent about 20 minutes before a workout.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 09, 2013, 06:21:54 PM
I think it all depends on how you walk...if you strut....you're ok.

 ;D ;D ;D

i miss the days when the chicks would scream at me from thier cars as i ran shirtless in the hot summer sun...

i'd hear things like "wooo... hey baby!" "nice!" "HOT!!!"

at least i think that's what they were screaming at me ;D ;D ;D LOL!
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Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 06:23:08 PM
Here is the kicker if you tried to quit caffeine you would not be able to sleep well. Caffeine and aspirin work well as a fat burning agent about 20 minutes before a workout.
yes,,,,cardio is for the birds,,eat less,eat protein,train,rest,repeat,add carbs depending,drink water,reduce water,,pump up take pics,,,or blow up in a suppossed offseason and stay smooth  and walk around big in clothes,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:23:34 PM
i'm guest posing in this thread,,,,
Great build nj no doubt, big arms and chest how is your back shots?. On the side chest bring back the arm a bit it will expand your chest more.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:31:26 PM
Here is the kicker if you tried to quit caffeine you would not be able to sleep well. Caffeine and aspirin work well as a fat burning agent about 20 minutes before a workout.

Oh yeah if I stopped now I would get massive headaches too.

;D ;D ;D

i miss the days when the chicks would scream at me from thier cars as i ran shirtless in the hot summer sun...

i'd hear things like "wooo... hey baby!" "nice!" "HOT!!!"

at least i think that's what they were screaming at me ;D ;D ;D LOL!

LOL

Summer time is near  :D

yes,,,,cardio is for the birds,,eat less,eat protein,train,rest,repeat,add carbs depending,drink water,reduce water,,pump up take pics,,,or blow up in a suppossed offseason and stay smooth  and walk around big in clothes,,,

I haven't been doing much cardio but I miss it for the health effects even though some of that may be a placebo. Don't need it to lean out that's for sure.



Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 06:32:23 PM
back and tri,,relaxed back thats all i have,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Lol @ blocking out the steelers logo....a gift for a jets fan perhaps?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:35:51 PM
yes,,,,cardio is for the birds,,eat less,eat protein,train,rest,repeat,add carbs depending,drink water,reduce water,,pump up take pics,,,or blow up in a suppossed offseason and stay smooth  and walk around big in clothes,,,
Exactly, just light cardio all you need or it cuts into muscle size. Being tall and it was winter and a guy says to me at a gas station a big dude in a coat walking slow scares me I said just just relax man I want harm you, serious this happened.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 06:38:28 PM
Lol @ blocking out the steelers logo....a gift for a jets fan perhaps?
huge steelers fan,,,didn't want getbiggers like u making fun of my pj's,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:39:41 PM
back and tri,,relaxed back thats all i have,,,
Full muscle bellies, seems you have long triceps and lat attachments. Have you competed before?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 06:41:24 PM
Full muscle bellies, seems you have long triceps and lat attachments. Have you competed before?
yes in 90's,,,,age 23,24,27..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 06:41:35 PM
huge steelers fan,,,didn't want getbiggers like u making fun of my pj's,,,,

lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
yes in 90's,,,,age 23,24,27..
Good I was going to say you should if you havent.
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Post by: njflex on April 09, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Good I was going to say you should if you havent.
i just enjoy training,reshaping the body and whats possible when its all in sync,,,,i hope that sounds cool not corny,,,i really loved the magaine era 80/90's it was something to have the mag in hand pics/articles not the supplement page after page today ,,the cats out of the bag a long time,,we knew people took steroids in 74/84/94/04/13 on and on,,,,if ur naive shame on u,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 09, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
i just enjoy training,reshaping the body and whats possible when its all in sync,,,,i hope that sounds cool not corny,,,i really loved the magaine era 80/90's it was something to have the mag in hand pics/articles not the supplement page after page today ,,the cats out of the bag a long time,,we knew people took steroids in 74/84/94/04/13 on and on,,,,if ur naive shame on u,,,,
Yes there was something about buying a magazine in the 90's before they went online you had in your hands reading it now it's wasted money you can read it all online.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 09, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Respect!!

The both of yous....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 03:34:59 AM
a very nice and tasty jewess for you fellas :P

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1ada67a965cf3b3255f59902568c98e1/tumblr_ml1b6mdtrg1qzmh66o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 03:41:28 AM
a very nice and tasty jewess for you fellas :P

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1ada67a965cf3b3255f59902568c98e1/tumblr_ml1b6mdtrg1qzmh66o1_500.jpg)
Clearly nice reverse lunge form, looks like it's working by the looks of that ass.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 03:44:34 AM
she's got T and A brother

and if i notice the T then that's saying something, coz i am very clearly as ass man as x-wifey even nicknamed me Mr. Asses Lover ;D ;D ;D lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 05:14:57 AM
a very nice and tasty jewess for you fellas :P

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1ada67a965cf3b3255f59902568c98e1/tumblr_ml1b6mdtrg1qzmh66o1_500.jpg)

She's in a good position.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 05:43:31 AM
a very nice and tasty jewess for you fellas :P

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/1ada67a965cf3b3255f59902568c98e1/tumblr_ml1b6mdtrg1qzmh66o1_500.jpg)
very nice,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 06:47:34 AM
be doing squats in bout 3 hours or so and i bet they'll go up, even on low cals ;)

KA-BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 06:56:18 AM
be doing squats in bout 3 hours or so and i bet they'll go up, even on low cals ;)

KA-BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
Let us know. Why do them if you are going to wear pants in the contest?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 07:09:26 AM
Let us know. Why do them if you are going to wear pants in the contest?

well as much as i talk shit i really do want to have perfect proportions, coz quite honestly that's a HUGE PART of this beautiful bod thing, and in fact it probably is.... THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of the body beautiful equation 8) 8) 8)

the thing is, i really do see my wheels (at least my leg above the calf ;)) as being damn close in proportion to my upper bod

the last parts that i'll have to fill out are calf and bi, as wheels and pecs are almost now in proportion to my delts, tris, and lats, but y'all can tell me how you see it when you get ma latest pics (and again, i want brutal honesty, so don't patronize me)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 07:19:25 AM
well as much as i talk shit i really do want to have perfect proportions, coz quite honestly that's a HUGE PART of this beautiful bod thing, and in fact it probably is.... THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of the body beautiful equation 8) 8) 8)

You're smarter than you look.





























 ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 07:37:52 AM
well as much as i talk shit i really do want to have perfect proportions, coz quite honestly that's a HUGE PART of this beautiful bod thing, and in fact it probably is.... THE MOST IMPORTANT PART of the body beautiful equation 8) 8) 8)

the thing is, i really do see my wheels (at least my leg above the calf ;)) as being damn close in proportion to my upper bod

the last parts that i'll have to fill out are calf and bi, as wheels and pecs are almost now in proportion to my delts, tris, and lats, but y'all can tell me how you see it when you get ma latest pics (and again, i want brutal honesty, so don't patronize me)
I SEE YOUR POINTS AND EVERYONE WHO PICKS UP A WEIGHT AND TRULY SCULPTS THERE BODY AND IS TRYING TO BE AWARE OF PROPORTION ,,YOU STILL CANNOT TRULY SAY I'M IN PERFECT PROPORTION ,TOO MANY VARIABLES,,,AND WHEN U DIET YOUR WEAKER/LESEER BODY PARTS FALL BACK AND BETTER GROUPS REMAIN STRONG,,,LET THE PICS DECIDE AFTER LEANESS PORTION,WE WILL DETERMINE THE 'PROPORTION'S 'ASPECT,,ITS NOT EASY AS IT SEEMS...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 09:10:13 AM
I SEE YOUR POINTS AND EVERYONE WHO PICKS UP A WEIGHT AND TRULY SCULPTS THERE BODY AND IS TRYING TO BE AWARE OF PROPORTION ,,YOU STILL CANNOT TRULY SAY I'M IN PERFECT PROPORTION ,TOO MANY VARIABLES,,,AND WHEN U DIET YOUR WEAKER/LESEER BODY PARTS FALL BACK AND BETTER GROUPS REMAIN STRONG,,,LET THE PICS DECIDE AFTER LEANESS PORTION,WE WILL DETERMINE THE 'PROPORTION'S 'ASPECT,,ITS NOT EASY AS IT SEEMS...

Right on every single point.

I tried from the very beginning to be as proportionate as possible by training everything hard....but we all have those parts don't wanna respond. Even the best of the best in this resort to seo injections...that right there tells you how hard it really is.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 09:27:20 AM
Right on every single point.

I tried from the very beginning to be as proportionate as possible by training everything hard....but we all have those parts don't wanna respond. Even the best of the best in this resort to seo injections...that right there tells you how hard it really is.

FORGET US 4 HERE WE TRAIN AND DO EVERY MUSCLE GROUP,,,BUT TO SHOW U GENETICS,HEAVY TRAINING,AND SOME DRUGS ,,BORRACHO LOOK AT' DECEIVERS' BUILD HE DOES BASICS AND NO DELT WORK OR ANY SINGLE PARTS OTHER THAN POWERLIFTING MOVES,,AND YA KNOW IN HIS PICS HIS PROPORTIONS OTHER THAN LEGS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THE REST LOOK DECENT ..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 09:35:21 AM
Keys in order of importance.
1. Genes
2. Train -Progressively upping the weights.
3. Concentrate on weak points.
4. Diet
5. Mild cardio for fat burning too intense burns carbs/sugar not fat.
4. Drugs if you choose to take them.
5. Preparation, posing, tanning, dropping water if competing.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 09:38:41 AM
FORGET US 4 HERE WE TRAIN AND DO EVERY MUSCLE GROUP,,,BUT TO SHOW U GENETICS,HEAVY TRAINING,AND SOME DRUGS ,,BORRACHO LOOK AT' DECEIVERS' BUILD HE DOES BASICS AND NO DELT WORK OR ANY SINGLE PARTS OTHER THAN POWERLIFTING MOVES,,AND YA KNOW IN HIS PICS HIS PROPORTIONS OTHER THAN LEGS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN THE REST LOOK DECENT ..

haha thats right...he's well proportioned I saw his pic. You're very well proportioned from what I've seen as well which is why I like your build...your muscle has a mature dense look to it too.

Theres proportions but also even more to it than that...I'm sure you and mr . n could write book. One side has to match the other and muscle insertions will affect the look of the muscle as well.

Definitely not easy lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 09:42:11 AM
Not easy cause you can't choose your genes as mr.n shows by putting them #1 on his list
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
Keys in order of importance.
1. Genes
2. Train -Progressively upping the weights.
3. Concentrate on weak points.
4. Diet
5. Mild cardio for fat burning too intense burns carbs/sugar not fat.
4. Drugs if you choose to take them.
5. Preparation, posing, tanning, dropping water if competing.
1 MAJOR YES,,,
2 YES
3 YES ONLY SO MUCH
4 YES
5 YES HATE IT,,
DRUGS YES IN WANTED/NEEDED
5 ONLY CHOICE FEW PREP VERY IMPORTANT 100 PCT ..75/25 NOT GOING TO CUT EVERY STONE NEEDS TO BE UNTURNED TO COMPETE.

LINE 1 GENETICS ESPECIALLY SHAPE/MUSCLE SIZE INVOLVED ..GUY I TRAIN WITH STRONGER DB FLAT BENCH THAN ME BY A LITTLE COULD BE WEIGHT OR REPS AT A GIVEN TIME AND ICLINE PRESS MORE THAN ME ,,HIS PECS ARE FLAT AS A PANCAKE,,I DO WARMUP SETS AND PECS ARE ROUNDED PUMPED THROUGH SHIRT ,,HE SAY'S GENETICS DAMN,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 09:58:14 AM
1 MAJOR YES,,,
2 YES
3 YES ONLY SO MUCH
4 YES
5 YES HATE IT,,
DRUGS YES IN WANTED/NEEDED
5 ONLY CHOICE FEW PREP VERY IMPORTANT 100 PCT ..75/25 NOT GOING TO CUT EVERY STONE NEEDS TO BE UNTURNED TO COMPETE.

LINE 1 GENETICS ESPECIALLY SHAPE/MUSCLE SIZE INVOLVED ..GUY I TRAIN WITH STRONGER DB FLAT BENCH THAN ME BY A LITTLE COULD BE WEIGHT OR REPS AT A GIVEN TIME AND ICLINE PRESS MORE THAN ME ,,HIS PECS ARE FLAT AS A PANCAKE,,I DO WARMUP SETS AND PECS ARE ROUNDED PUMPED THROUGH SHIRT ,,HE SAY'S GENETICS DAMN,,
Exactly, on the last comment there was a guy that trained with me only weighed like 165 I was 220 at the time he could almost match me in strength but had very little muscle size but didnt have the genes for size. I think his brain fired off more Neurotransmitters than I, which means a direct signal from the brain to the muscle.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
AND WHEN U DIET YOUR WEAKER/LESEER BODY PARTS FALL BACK AND BETTER GROUPS REMAIN STRONG,,,LET THE PICS DECIDE AFTER LEANESS PORTION,WE WILL DETERMINE THE 'PROPORTION'S 'ASPECT,,ITS NOT EASY AS IT SEEMS...

THIS

and i'm really hoping that i'll hit 6-7% come contest day and again i'll need you dudes to be honest with me there

and it is VERY TRUE that once one is that lean then it's impossible to hide weak points

if i'm not @ 6-7% come contest day then i'll keep going til i am

coz then plan is to hit 6-7% and then STAY THERE while adding lean muscle tissue where needed, and yes.... I CAN DO THIS ;)

squats are coming up soon, so i'll let you dudes know how they go and maybe y'all can recommend a good tune for me to train them to ;D 8) :)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 10:04:25 AM
THIS

and i'm really hoping that i'll hit 6-7% come contest day and again i'll need you dudes to be honest with me there

and it is VERY TRUE that once one is that lean then it's impossible to hide weak points

if i'm not @ 6-7% come contest day then i'll keep going til i am

coz then plan is to hit 6-7% and then STAY THERE while adding lean muscle tissue where needed, and yes.... I CAN DO THIS ;)

squats are coming up soon, so i'll let you dudes know how they go and maybe y'all can recommend a good tune for me to train them to ;D 8) :)

If neither of us are..... keep going to see who gets there first ?  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 10:05:11 AM
fuck ...now they'll probably just tell us we're above that just to make us suffer a bit more.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 10:07:36 AM
Exactly, on the last comment there was a guy that trained with me only weighed like 165 I was 220 at the time he could almost match me in strength but had very little muscle size but didnt have the genes for size. I think his brain fired off more Neurotransmitters than I, which means a direct signal from the brain to the muscle.
my training partner is Turkish ,,his tris are strong as shit and arms are pretty good ,I tell him he's pushing through with arms and pecs are not getting it stimulation wise,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
THIS

and i'm really hoping that i'll hit 6-7% come contest day and again i'll need you dudes to be honest with me there

and it is VERY TRUE that once one is that lean then it's impossible to hide weak points

if i'm not @ 6-7% come contest day then i'll keep going til i am

coz then plan is to hit 6-7% and then STAY THERE while adding lean muscle tissue where needed, and yes.... I CAN DO THIS ;)

squats are coming up soon, so i'll let you dudes know how they go and maybe y'all can recommend a good tune for me to train them to ;D 8) :)
8) You are doing squats for the girls so think of this when doing squats.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:09:20 AM
If neither of us are..... keep going to see who gets there first ?  :D


agreed

fuck ...now they'll probably just tell us we're above that just to make us suffer a bit more.

AGREED
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:11:09 AM
8) You are doing squats for the girls so think of this when doing squats.


 8) 8) 8)

i'm listening to this album during my warm-ups :)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:34:26 AM
squats went up 4 full reps

POOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!

feels good, feels DAMN GOOD 8) :) ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 10:35:44 AM
squats went up 4 full reps

POOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!

feels good, feels DAMN GOOD 8) :) ;D
See what rest does.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:39:14 AM
See what rest does.

and now i'm gonna do a bonus failure set baby ;)

yeah, i know that you don't agree, but i wanna ride the storm out 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 10:40:36 AM
squats went up 4 full reps

POOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!

feels good, feels DAMN GOOD 8) :) ;D
DUMBELL SQUATS?RIGHT...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:46:11 AM
DUMBELL SQUATS?RIGHT...

yep

i put one heavy bell btw my legs and squat with it ATG

i just did 155 for 10 reps til failure and for my bonus set i'm gonna use 170

yeah, my legs are weak as fuck, but they sure are pretty and sexy :P :P :P
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
got 5 reps til failure with a 170 pound bell, but it's all good coz next leg workout i'll get at least 8 reps with that same weight 8)

right now i got enough weight to load up one bell with 185 pounds, but if i get more 20 kg plates i can load up one bell to 225 pounds and that's for sure enough weight for me and my goals

and hopefully the 185 pounds will be enough to take me to my beauty goals ;D :P ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 11:13:37 AM
post workout meal was 4 scrambled eggs and now i'm done eating for the day

today total cals are @ 1500 and total protein 135 grams

where u at B?! :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 11:24:41 AM
post workout meal was 4 scrambled eggs and now i'm done eating for the day

today total cals are @ 1500 and total protein 135 grams

where u at B?! :-*

I'm at zero  >:(

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
I'm at zero  >:(



really? so you're fasting today then i take it?

are you an IF guy?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 11:31:37 AM
really? so you're fasting today then i take it?

are you an IF guy?

Yeah I've been eating this way for about a year. Thing is that I wake up at night to eat so this is a good way for me to control calories. I still make good food choices at night though otherwise its all useless.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
just got out of the shower and i hit this pose and FUCK :o :o :o my bis look like the are MADE OUT OF GRANITE :o :o :o :o :o

BEAUTIFUL ;)

(http://www.davedraper.com/fusionbb/fbbuploads/1331819204-zane_vacuum.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSWCBr7f3Bk/Tjdfosk08zI/AAAAAAAAZp0/a_tdO7FmUTQ/s1600/tumblr_lp10yyZyKM1qfnac5o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSWCBr7f3Bk/Tjdfosk08zI/AAAAAAAAZp0/a_tdO7FmUTQ/s1600/tumblr_lp10yyZyKM1qfnac5o1_500.gif)
Delusion at its best. :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 04:58:09 PM
I suggest we judge each photo on the 10 point system 1 being the lowest 10 being the highest if nj agrees. The person with the most points wins.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 05:00:17 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSWCBr7f3Bk/Tjdfosk08zI/AAAAAAAAZp0/a_tdO7FmUTQ/s1600/tumblr_lp10yyZyKM1qfnac5o1_500.gif)

LOL!

still not sure how serious i'm gonna take this contest as far as prep...

like.... will i trim and shave my legs? will i use this skin bronzing lotion that i just bought on sunday? will i do any water manipulation starting a few days before the photo shoot? etc...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:08:30 PM
LOL!

still not sure how serious i'm gonna take this contest as far as prep...

like.... will i trim and shave my legs? will i use this skin bronzing lotion that i just bought on sunday? will i do any water manipulation starting a few days before the photo shoot? etc...
As I understand Barracho is taking it the max, so are you going throw the towel in and not try the necessary preparations?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
As I understand Barracho is taking it the max, so are you going throw the towel in and not try the necessary preparations?

I got my jan tana and glittery purple posing thong ready.  8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:13:13 PM
I got my jan tana and glittery purple posing thong ready.  8)
Yea last week final touches are in order.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
As I understand Barracho is taking it the max, so are you going throw the towel in and not try the necessary preparations?

i'm not sure yet man, coz i'd rather show myself as i really am

maybe i'll shave and tan but i doubt i'll do any water manipulations...

you see shave and tan is rather natural, coz i can keep shaven and tanned, but water manipulations are fake as fuck coz they only last a very short while and they are rather phoney (not a true natural everyday state)

I got my jan tana and glittery purple posing thong ready.  8)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:18:28 PM
i'm not sure yet man, coz i'd rather show myself as i really am

maybe i'll shave and tan but i doubt i'll do any water manipulations...

you see shave and tan is rather natural, coz i can keep shaven and tanned, but water manipulations are fake as fuck coz they only last a very short while and they are rather phoney (not a true natural everyday state)

 ;D ;D ;D
To be ripped you got to drop water for 3 days if not blurred definition.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 05:21:48 PM
To be ripped you got to drop water for 3 days if not blurred definition.

so you're saying that i'm not ripped here? i did ZERO manipulations at that time and just walked in of the streets and snapped that pic ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:23:15 PM
so you're saying that i'm not ripped here? i did ZERO manipulations at that time and just walked in of the streets and snapped that pic ;)
No thigh definition, I wouldn't say ripped but lean no doubt.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 05:27:51 PM
No thigh definition, I wouldn't say ripped but lean no doubt.

i was measured @ sub-6 there and i was measured @ sub-5 here
 
and the 2nd one is the kinda girls that were screaming at me from thier rides 8) ;D :P
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 05:31:13 PM
I have a feeling njflex has been secretly dieting and will join this contest last minute and blow us both out of the water. I can see him already sipping some distilled water as he pulls out the old posing trunks outta the closet.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
nah man, he'll just post up some more calf shots to try and make us feel bad
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
i was measured @ sub-6 there and i was measured @ sub-5 here
 
and the 2nd one is the kinda girls that were screaming at me from thier rides 8) ;D :P

You better come in sub-5 then. Barracho I understand is sub 6 now.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:46:22 PM
I have a feeling njflex has been secretly dieting and will join this contest last minute and blow us both out of the water. I can see him already sipping some distilled water as he pulls out the old posing trunks outta the closet.
If he comes out he is going to be serious and he knows how pose the mandantory pre-judging shots where the contest is decided.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 10, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
You better come in sub-5 then. Barracho I understand is sub 6 now.

on that sub-5 pic 15 put me @ sub-6

shit man! i'm just hoping that i hit sub-7

today i only had bout 1500 cals and tomorrow i may have a bit more, still not sure yet...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 05:57:31 PM
If he comes out he is going to be serious and he knows how pose the mandantory pre-judging shots where the contest is decided.

Yes, this is my fear...I'm having trouble sleeping at night because of it.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 05:59:21 PM
Yes, this is my fear...I'm having trouble sleeping at night because of it.
Exactly if NJ comes out its "lights out game over".
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 06:08:37 PM
Exactly if NJ comes out its "lights out game over".

 :(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
nah too much respect for this contest and battle for these 2,,,i enjoy posting pics to show how i maintain 'my'goal/physique...i'm peaked here..as a young pup,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 10, 2013, 07:16:02 PM
Great physique overall ripped up as well, thighs a strong point.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 10, 2013, 07:17:07 PM
Sliced!!!

I imagine your area being VERY competitive during those days you competed....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 10, 2013, 07:21:42 PM
Sliced!!!

I imagine your area being VERY competitive during those days you competed....
very grew up in a very populated italian american area,,everybody 5'4 to 5'8 ripped,stockyish,muscled,guido,all competing,,before me remeber gaspari jersey boy,,during my time and one of my physique goal looks vinny galanti sick build,many,many too many,,,great era..
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 04:26:32 AM
very grew up in a very populated italian american area,,everybody 5'4 to 5'8 ripped,stockyish,muscled,guido,all competing,,before me remeber gaspari jersey boy,,during my time and one of my physique goal looks vinny galanti sick build,many,many too many,,,great era..
Gaspari had good symmetry and vascular the dude had veins running everywhere.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2013, 04:46:19 AM
Gaspari had good symmetry and vascular the dude had veins running everywhere.

he was MUCH BETTER than gayspari

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Donny on April 11, 2013, 04:48:06 AM
Great physique overall ripped up as well, thighs a strong point.
agree 100%
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 04:56:06 AM
he was MUCH BETTER than gayspari


A good physique but sorry Gaspari finished 2nd in the Mr O once.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2013, 05:23:52 AM
A good physique but sorry Gaspari finished 2nd in the Mr O once.

that's true, but.... IMO San has/had a much prettier bod than gayspari (no homo)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2013, 05:36:30 AM
i'll have bout 1300 cals today

where u at B?!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 11, 2013, 05:47:13 AM
that's true, but.... IMO San has/had a much prettier bod than gayspari (no homo)
yes he did capped delts,full pecs,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2013, 10:08:25 AM
btw dudes, i'm giving a good effort here but not pushing real hard

anyways, my whole point at this point in time is to prove to you dudes that i can indeed make improvements upon my physique and to do what i set out to do 8)

what i'm going to prove at this point in time is that i can and did get MUCH LEANER and that i added shape and size onto my weak points ie. chest and arms

next up, i'll stay as lean as i am now, while continuing to add shape and size to my weak points ie. chest, arms (if they still are weak points) and now i'll also ADD CALVES into the mix ;)

so what i want from you dudes is to confirm that i really did get MUCH leaner and that i did indeed add size and shape to my chest and arms (if i really did so, so shoot it to me straight and don't patronize me)

also i'll ask of you dudes what still needs work in order to PERFECT MY PORPORTIONS 8) 8) 8)

and i want you fellas to tell me this separately so i can get each of your points of view privately, coz last time all 3 of you said the same thing to me privately ie. that my back and delts are/were ahead of my chest and arms
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Post by: njflex on April 11, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
btw dudes, i'm giving a good effort here but not pushing real hard

anyways, my whole point at this point in time is to prove to you dudes that i can indeed make improvements upon my physique and to do what i set out to do 8)

what i'm going to prove at this point in time is that i can and did get MUCH LEANER and that i added shape and size onto my weak points ie. chest and arms

next up, i'll stay as lean as i am now, while continuing to add shape and size to my weak points ie. chest, arms (if they still are weak points) and now i'll also ADD CALVES into the mix ;)

so what i want from you dudes is to confirm that i really did get MUCH leaner and that i did indeed add size and shape to my chest and arms (if i really did so, so shoot it to me straight and don't patronize me)

also i'll ask of you dudes what still needs work in order to PERFECT MY PORPORTIONS 8) 8) 8)

and i want you fellas to tell me this separately so i can get each of your points of view privately, coz last time all 3 of you said the same thing to me privately ie. that my back and delts are/were ahead of my chest and arms
I KNOW YOUR ON HIGH DOSES OF CAFFEINE TO SPUR YOUR LEANESS ON,,BUT CHILL LOL,,,
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Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2013, 10:45:52 AM
I KNOW YOUR ON HIGH DOSES OF CAFFEINE TO SPUR YOUR LEANESS ON,,BUT CHILL LOL,,,

not exactly man, it's more my OCD coming out, or quite possibly mania as i was once diagnosed as manic-depressive but it seems that this was the wrong diagnosis as that was when i was a fully raging alcoholic lol

i guess my correct diagnosis is narcissism sprinkled with a touch of OCD ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: njflex on April 11, 2013, 11:54:59 AM
not exactly man, it's more my OCD coming out, or quite possibly mania as i was once diagnosed as manic-depressive but it seems that this was the wrong diagnosis as that was when i was a fully raging alcoholic lol

i guess my correct diagnosis is narcissism sprinkled with a touch of OCD ;D ;D ;D
YESS,,,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
Maybe dj can put aside the OCD and come dialed in.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 11, 2013, 02:45:09 PM
Maybe dj can put aside the OCD and come dialed in.

maybe...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
maybe...
Whats the deadline again 17th?
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Post by: Borracho on April 11, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Whats the deadline again 17th?

Yup!!

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/863050/flair.gif)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 04:31:52 PM
Yup!!

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/863050/flair.gif)
Ric Flair one of best shit talkers ever. I was never good at it, I was asked by a member here to post on the Wrestling board so I put up that avatar. LOL go to youtube and look him up some funny stuff.
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Post by: Borracho on April 11, 2013, 04:35:44 PM
Ric Flair one of best shit talkers ever. I was never good at it, I was asked by a member here to post on the Wrestling board so I put up that avatar. LOL go to youtube and look him up some funny stuff.

oh I know who he is  8)

My favorite wrestling era was the nwo in the wcw...flair was one of the 4 horsemen. I was in highschool than  :D

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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
oh I know who he is  8)

My favorite wrestling era was the nwo in the wcw...flair was one of the 4 horsemen. I was in highschool than  :D


Ric had a gym here I used train at met him once. Pro wrestling is planned as to who will win but there is some hilarious characters in it, I dont really like the matches just the shit talk  :D. I guess because my dad took to me wrestling matches as a kid i'm kinda fond of it.
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Post by: Borracho on April 11, 2013, 04:43:34 PM
Ric had a gym here I used train at met him once. Pro wrestling is planned as to who will win but there is some hilarious characters in it, I dont really like the matches just the shit talk  :D. I guess because my dad took to me wrestling matches as a kid i'm kinda fond of it.

haha ric flairs the man...

and yeah its like a male soap opera no doubt.

Not watching it much these days but I used to a lot as a kid and up to h.s...kinda outta the loop now.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 11, 2013, 04:53:00 PM
haha ric flairs the man...

and yeah its like a male soap opera no doubt.

Not watching it much these days but I used to a lot as a kid and up to h.s...kinda outta the loop now.
Get on the wrestling board some fun stuff there, I was out of it too until this person asked me go there. Andre the Giant actually lived not to far from here, a good hearted guy died young.
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Post by: Borracho on April 11, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
Get on the wrestling board some fun stuff there, I was out of it too until this person asked me go there. Andre the Giant actually lived not to far from here, a good hearted guy died young.

Oh yeah...those extremely large people with acromegaly rarely live long lives. I think he had that disease  ???

probably didn't help he drank a lot ...I heard had to drink whole botles of hard liquor just to feel anything.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 04:41:59 AM
Oh yeah...those extremely large people with acromegaly rarely live long lives. I think he had that disease  ???

probably didn't help he drank a lot ...I heard had to drink whole botles of hard liquor just to feel anything.
Imagine what kind of bed Andre had to sleep in he probably had a custom made one at home, hell I'm only 6'2" and my feet hang of the bed sometimes, not to mention when he travelled stayed in hotel rooms he had to sleep on the floor I'm sure.
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Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:01:24 AM
"i will not cease from mental fight" 8) 8) 8)

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Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 06:22:10 AM
btw dudes

i'm rather certain that i can and will gain muscle while staying lean, and that i can even get more lean (RIPPED) while gaining muscle ;)

how will i do it? by controlling cals and INCREASING TRAINING LOADS :)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 06:37:56 AM
Imagine what kind of bed Andre had to sleep in he probably had a custom made one at home, hell I'm only 6'2" and my feet hang of the bed sometimes, not to mention when he travelled stayed in hotel rooms he had to sleep on the floor I'm sure.

Yeah...imagine the guy traveling around and having to sleep at hotels like some in Europe which tend to have tiny beds. And just doing random everyday things like walking through doors, getting in cars, taking dumps or showering when on the road.  :-\

Even 6'2 has to be a pain the ass at times.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 06:41:06 AM
Yeah...imagine the guy traveling around and having to sleep at hotels like some in Europe which tend to have tiny beds. And just doing random everyday things like walking through doors, getting in cars, taking dumps or showering when on the road.  :-\

Even 6'2 has to be a pain the ass at times.


how's it going chumpo?

you ready to git yo ass beat n few days ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 06:42:03 AM
Yeah...imagine the guy traveling around and having to sleep at hotels like some in Europe which tend to have tiny beds. And just doing random everyday things like walking through doors, getting in cars, taking dumps or showering when on the road.  :-\

Even 6'2 has to be a pain the ass at times.

Yep it is.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 06:46:13 AM
how's it going chumpo?

you ready to git yo ass beat n few days ;)

Doing pretty good man...

Looking better and better as the days go by it seems. Hunger is my new best friend!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 06:52:55 AM
Doing pretty good man...

Looking better and better as the days go by it seems. Hunger is my new best friend!

i feel light-headed and like i'm ready to pass the fuck out at any minute now and today is my big fucking day... curls and push-ups :o :o :o

guess i'll have some rice and corn along with eggs for lunch and then load up on 20 mg of superdrol with a big glass of 2% milk and then hit them curls and push-ups bout 90-120 min after taking the superdrol ;)

i've changed my superdrol strategy as i know just take a double dose ie. 20 mg on curl/push-up day which is every 72-96 hrs, and on other days i don't take shit
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 06:56:47 AM
Whatever works.

Training fasted can be a little rough but as I can remember it's no different than just being on low calories overall. Lethargy has set in for me as well.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 07:10:29 AM
6 days left.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 07:16:35 AM
at this point in time i got figure out how many cals that i can eat and still gain muscle while losing fat?

i really don't know how lean i am right now ??? ??? ???

i'm defiantely getting leaner on 1500-1800 cals a day, but i'm thinking that i could even go up to 2500 or even 2800 and still lose fat while gaining muscle

here in this article AJ talks about gaining muscle while losing fat on 1,100 cals per day, it's on page 5 here

this article is very interesting to say the least

http://arthurjonesexercise.com/Athletic/Exercise1983.PDF
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 07:17:34 AM
6 days left.

4 days for me, as my pics will be taken on tuesday ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 07:23:07 AM
at this point in time i got figure out how many cals that i can eat and still gain muscle while losing fat?

i really don't know how lean i am right now ??? ??? ???

i'm defiantely getting leaner on 1500-1800 cals a day, but i'm thinking that i could even go up to 2500 or even 2800 and still lose fat while gaining muscle

here in this article AJ talks about gaining muscle while losing fat on 1,100 cals per day, it's on page 5 here

this article is very interesting to say the least

http://arthurjonesexercise.com/Athletic/Exercise1983.PDF
Ethiopians take in more cals than 1100. 2500 max.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 07:41:02 AM
Ethiopians take in more cals than 1100. 2500 max.

so do you believe that he really only ate 1100 cals for weeks on end?

i guess what i'll do is let you fellas tell me how lean i really am, and then from there i'll try and figure out how many cals to eat

if i'm sub-6 then i can increase cals somewhat, but if i'm over 7 then i gotta still keep cals low

so allright, that settles it then, i'll take these pics "as is" with no water manipulations or any "tricks of the trade"

i'll probably trim up my hairy legs and put just a bit of bronze skin lotion on, but no "diet tricks"

remember, at this point in time i just want to get some honest feedback and then re-access my current situation and then continue on my course to outstanding-ness 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 07:46:18 AM
so do you believe that he really only ate 1100 cals for weeks on end?

i guess what i'll do is let you fellas tell me how lean i really am, and then from there i'll try and figure out how many cals to eat

if i'm sub-6 then i can increase cals somewhat, but if i'm over 7 then i gotta still keep cals low

so allright, that settles it then, i'll take these pics "as is" with no water manipulations or any "tricks of the trade"

i'll probably trim up my hairy legs and put just a bit of bronze skin lotion on, but no "diet tricks"

remember, at this point in time i just want to get some honest feedback and then re-access my current situation and then continue on my course to outstanding-ness 8) 8) 8)
No I don't believe the 1100 for weeks he was trying to get a rise out of people. The mirror tells all sub this sub that dont mean shit if you look like shit. If NJflex jumps in this thing it's over the dude is jacked, ripped and tanned.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 07:57:05 AM
No I don't believe the 1100 for weeks he was trying to get a rise out of people. The mirror tells all sub this sub that dont mean shit if you look like shit. If NJflex jumps in this thing it's over the dude is jacked, ripped and tanned.

the mirror don't tell shit if you can't see yourself as you really are doofus

and yeah, nj would win now, but not in sept/oct ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 08:21:55 AM
read the top of page 9 here for some very interesting points/ideas on "calf" training :D :D :D

http://arthurjonesexercise.com/Athletic/Exercise1983.PDF
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 10:05:10 AM
getting ready to hit curls and push-ups soon, and i got the felling that push-ups will go up while curls won't...

anyways, trying to find some good training tunes for this training session so anything cool would be much appreciated 8)

here's what i'm listening to as a pretty work-out warm-up 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
dj181 @ home INCREASING TRAINING LOADS!!!


Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 10:56:15 AM
dj181 @ home INCREASING TRAINING LOADS!!!



ur a trip...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 11:06:26 AM
dj181 @ home INCREASING TRAINING LOADS!!!




hahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!!!!

he is alot like me.... sleek, cat-like, and handsome ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

p.s. curl went up 3 fucking reps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so now i'll just finish out wit a set of maintaince db rows and then i'll hit da push-ups tomorrow

damn!!!! it feels good to get better, and better, and better.... but i just hope to hell that i'm looking better, and better, and better as well 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
dj181 @ home INCREASING TRAINING LOADS!!!



Is that really dj?
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Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Is that really dj?

Only if you want it to be...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 01:27:36 PM
question dj what is your home gym set up,equipment wise,weight wise,dumbells,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 01:30:18 PM
Only if you want it to be...

be careful man, coz this is THE REAL ME...

"And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking."

 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 01:36:44 PM
be careful man, coz this is THE REAL ME...

"And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking."

 8) 8) 8)


Barracho lives in that center building in the pic silently waiting for you onslaught.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 01:42:53 PM
question dj what is your home gym set up,equipment wise,weight wise,dumbells,

i only have 2 adjustable dumbbells and as of now i've got the capability to load a bell up to 84 kg (185 pounds) but if and when i buy more weight i will be able to load a bell up to 102 kg (225 pounds) which is the max possible weight that i can load upon one of these bells

i don't have a bench or a barbell, just these adjustable dumbbells

i got plenty of 2 kg plates, 5 kg plates, and 10 kg plates, but i've only go two 20 kg plates as of now

once i buy 2 more 20 kg plates then i'll have all the weight that i can use for these bells

when doing db curls i can only put 2 kg plates on the bell, coz 5 kg plates or bigger interefer with performing them correctly as the bell becomes too wide

so max weight i can use on db curls is roughly 60 pounds and today i did 10 reps with roughly 50 pounds, so i've got 10 more pounds that i can load up on each arm for these curls
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 01:46:34 PM
Barracho lives in that center building in the pic silently waiting for you onslaught.

well, for ma man B, i'll just use my magical charms to trick and deceive him

"like the club tie, and the firm handshake, with a certain look in the eye, and an easy smile" 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
be careful man, coz this is THE REAL ME...

"And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking."

 8) 8) 8)


Barracho lives in that center building in the pic silently waiting for you onslaught.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 01:59:08 PM
Barracho lives in that center building in the pic silently waiting for you onslaught.

well, for ma man B, i'll just use my magical charms to trick and deceive him

"like the club tie, and the firm handshake, with a certain look in the eye, and an easy smile" 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 02:15:41 PM
btw, my goddamn, m0therfucking ab skinfold seems to be stuck @ 7-8 mm >:( >:( >:(

but i guess that i am looking a bit better over the past 5 days or so, even though this ab skinfold HAS NOT changed ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 02:40:10 PM
i only have 2 adjustable dumbbells and as of now i've got the capability to load a bell up to 84 kg (185 pounds) but if and when i buy more weight i will be able to load a bell up to 102 kg (225 pounds) which is the max possible weight that i can load upon one of these bells

i don't have a bench or a barbell, just these adjustable dumbbells

i got plenty of 2 kg plates, 5 kg plates, and 10 kg plates, but i've only go two 20 kg plates as of now

once i buy 2 more 20 kg plates then i'll have all the weight that i can use for these bells

when doing db curls i can only put 2 kg plates on the bell, coz 5 kg plates or bigger interefer with performing them correctly as the bell becomes too wide

so max weight i can use on db curls is roughly 60 pounds and today i did 10 reps with roughly 50 pounds, so i've got 10 more pounds that i can load up on each arm for these curls
DO U TRAIN IN A ROOM OR BASEMENT?NO ROOM FOR A BENCH?A BENCH OPENS UP MANY POSSIBILITIES DB FLYES,FLAT DB PRESS,DIPS OF BENCH,LAT DB ROW,LYING TRICEP EXTENSIONS,ECT...
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Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 02:55:57 PM
DO U TRAIN IN A ROOM OR BASEMENT?NO ROOM FOR A BENCH?A BENCH OPENS UP MANY POSSIBILITIES DB FLYES,FLAT DB PRESS,DIPS OF BENCH,LAT DB ROW,LYING TRICEP EXTENSIONS,ECT...

i live in a small flat and i could get a bench but it would take up even more of the small space that i got lol

i'll shoot it to you straight here

i don't believe in this multi move horsehit for full muscle development

i firmly believe that one only needs to do maybe handful of exercises for full and complete development

basically a squat, a bench, a row, a curl, and a calf raise (which is what i now do plus i did weighted crunches)

i've tried this multi move stuff many different times, and it NEVER DID SHIT FOR ME

i've been training now off and on for bout 25 years, so i've got some decent experience, and i know what works best for me, and here it is...

1. do only a handful of moves
2. train til failure on only 1 set (after 3 or 4 warm-up sets) and add weight when i hit top rep range
3. train each muscle roughly twice a week for OPTIMAL PROGRESS and train each muslce once a week with a "lighter" training load for maintaining it

i kinda can't wait til you see my pics, coz you'll see just what 1 progressive exercise has done to my pecs ;)

also, i just trimmed the excess hair off of my wheels, and let's just say that i got some quads, and also from just 1 progressive exercise 8)

i'll keep going with this and you'll will be shocked at my level of muscle development within only a few months time, just from following these 3 guidelines, and this is a promise :)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
was just checking my wheels in the mirror and they look completely different depending upon if i flex them or just stand relaxed

and also if they are in the "spotlight" vs. not

and quite honestly this shit is a real pain in the fucking ass, coz i don't wanna have to worry about hitting the right pose in the right lighting FUCK DAT NOISE >:( >:( >:(

so when i have this student of mine take my pics of tuesday i'll just do general shit and not worry about getting the best angle and lighting
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 03:41:36 PM
for some reason when i hear this tune i think bout 4 of us studs hanging out on the street corner "doo-wopping" and getting all of the fine ladies attention ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
This thread has been interesting to say the least.
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Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 04:31:12 PM
This thread has been interesting to say the least.

i'm laying it all out man, and not hiding anything

yeah i'm complicated as fuck, but that's what happens with you have an extremely high IQ ;D

and man, i don't know how my woman puts up with my shit, but thank God that she does and i really appreciate that bout her

"my mood is like a circus wheel and i change it all the time, and i know that sometimes she can't help but feel that she's wasting all of her time" :)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 04:35:51 PM
You're quite a character dj....but a very honest person. But at times we all wish you weren't  :P

But nah...not just you...we've all had a bit of fun here.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 04:42:19 PM
well i owe you a bit of gratitude dude, coz you kinda showed me the light to the importance of "diet" so thanks for that ma man

but i'm curious, do you really think that one needs at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight?

i'm only getting like .6-.7 grams per pound of bodyweight and as you'll see from my update pics, i've made some real nice progress on such a "low" protein intake
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 04:47:54 PM
well i owe you a bit of gratitude dude, coz you kinda showed me the light to the importance of "diet" so thanks for that ma man

but i'm curious, do you really think that one needs at least 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight?

i'm only getting like .6-.7 grams per pound of bodyweight and as you'll see from my update pics, i've made some real nice progress on such a "low" protein intake

You have improved your diet right and it sounds like it's working out for you. Only thing I would suggest is to go up to 1g and see if you can see a difference in results. I'm sure you would....but at least you're not too far away from that now.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
You have improved your diet right and it sounds like it's working out for you. Only thing I would suggest is to go up to 1g and see if you can see a difference in results. I'm sure you would....but at least you're not too far away from that now.


allright, so i guess that i'll have to buy some protein powder then

coz i need bout 50-60 more grams for my protein intake to equal my bodyweight
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
allright, so i guess that i'll have to buy some protein powder then

coz i need bout 50-60 more grams for my protein intake to equal my bodyweight

Try it out...

If you do decide to go the powder route you can find some tasty ones you can drink along side your chocolate chip muffins  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:34:13 PM
Try it out...

If you do decide to go the powder route you can find some tasty ones you can drink along side your chocolate chip muffins  :D

 ;D ;D ;D

actually if i get some i'll drink it with milk and my coffee breakfast and cut out the cheese

i just had a 3 egg a slice of cheese omelette kind of as a nice protein reward for my OUTSTANDING performance on the db curls today 8) 8) 8)

tomorrow is weighted push-ups and i GUAREN-GODDAMN-TEE that they shoot up once again ;)

damn! it's soooo funking cool to make such outstanding progress OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:38:42 PM
p.s. fellas i'm just laying it on thick but don't take this shit too personal as i really am a nice cool guy 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 05:40:30 PM
Have you done any massive cheating yet?

Surprisingly it seems I've got a good handle on it this time around. Thinking of you doing the taxi driver work out, eating your post workout cheese and coffee must be helping in that regard.  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
p.s. fellas i'm just laying it on thick but don't take this shit too personal as i really am a nice cool guy 8) 8) 8)



yeah we know that very deep deep deep down inside somewhere is an alright guy. lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 12, 2013, 05:49:40 PM
Have you done any massive cheating yet?

Surprisingly it seems I've got a good handle on it this time around. Thinking of you doing the taxi driver work out, eating your post workout cheese and coffee must be helping in that regard.  ;D

no i haven't man, and yeah i know that i'm a huge narcissistic fuck, but... i firmly believe that i AM MUCH STRONGER than most mentally, and i can suffer pain and hardship and not let it faze me and just keep the fuck going on ;D

i believe this mental toughness of mine comes from my teenage days when i was a rather decent x-country and track man coz when i'd run for training everything would start to hurt real fucking bad, but i told myself "don't give up pussy! push even harder!" and many times i did indeed do so, so this made me very tough, i think...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 12, 2013, 07:06:45 PM
no i haven't man, and yeah i know that i'm a huge narcissistic fuck, but... i firmly believe that i AM MUCH STRONGER than most mentally, and i can suffer pain and hardship and not let it faze me and just keep the fuck going on ;D

i believe this mental toughness of mine comes from my teenage days when i was a rather decent x-country and track man coz when i'd run for training everything would start to hurt real fucking bad, but i told myself "don't give up pussy! push even harder!" and many times i did indeed do so, so this made me very tough, i think...

This is why doing this little thing here with you has kept me from screwing up on my diet. I know you're tough....but just too god damn hard headed man lol. I lol but its true.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 07:07:08 PM
allright, so i guess that i'll have to buy some protein powder then

coz i need bout 50-60 more grams for my protein intake to equal my bodyweight
Yes about around 100 would be better, although I agree with Barracho 1 gram per pound of bodyweight is best.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
hey guys,,,yeah dj beats to his own drum,,i agree with him zane/benfatto are my build idols too,,,i have grown to see dj in different light than g/o board,,,borracho is a good kid all around ,,,i'm buzzed i was out with other part of the 4 seasons ..4 of us italian americans ,,italian dinner,wine,espresso,laughs ,,good food talking about the 90's scene in nj,,and checking out the milf's and hot youngings at the resteraunt,,ciao...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
hey guys,,,yeah dj beats to his own drum,,i agree with him zane/benfatto are my build idols too,,,i have grown to see dj in different light than g/o board,,,borracho is a good kid all around ,,,i'm buzzed i was out with other part of the 4 seasons ..4 of us italian americans ,,italian dinner,wine,espresso,laughs ,,good food talking about the 90's scene in nj,,and checking out the milf's and hot youngings at the resteraunt,,ciao...
Seems you had a good night out nj sounds like a range of hot women in the house...there.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 08:52:19 PM
Seems you had a good night out nj sounds like a range of hot women in the house...there.
amazing,,,insane..they knew they were being checked out caused they were decked out tight dresses,tanned,blonde,one girl in particular out with a couple and a guy she was out with only few times u could tell by the body language she was looking over at our table and not looking directly at the guy she was with and was conversing with the other girl mostly,,,she was total package,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 12, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
amazing,,,insane..they knew they were being checked out caused they were decked out tight dresses,tanned,blonde,one girl in particular out with a couple and a guy she was out with only few times u could tell by the body language she was looking over at our table and not looking directly at the guy she was with and was conversing with the other girl mostly,,,she was total package,,
Sounds as if she liked your muscles.  8) I always carry my business cards, in a situation like that as leaving I would hand her one then walk out the game is on them then because if they call you you are in for some hot sex because they made the move already. Its worked for me a few times.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 12, 2013, 09:00:13 PM
Sounds as if she liked your muscles.  8) I always carry my business cards, in a situation like that as leaving I would hand her one then walk out the game is on them then because if they call you you are in for some hot sex because they made the move already. Its worked for me a few times.
lol,,,had long sleeve tucked out shirt on,,,she couldn't see shit,,but i did have denim shorts on to show my muscular legs :P....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 01:39:42 AM
This is why doing this little thing here with you has kept me from screwing up on my diet. I know you're tough....but just too god damn hard headed man lol. I lol but its true.

yeah man, i know that's true, and i'm trying to change, really i am

in fact, i think that i'm getting better and i'm a little bit more chill and i'm really trying to be more open and empathetic towards others and their feelings, but it's hard man and it's taking alot of work on my part

in fact i need this with my girl, coz i can be such a fucking d!ckhead sometimes and even my own mother said to me "dj, if you said some of the things to me that you've said to your girlfriends, then i'd just get up and go out the door and never come back" lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 01:41:54 AM
hey guys,,,yeah dj beats to his own drum,,i agree with him zane/benfatto are my build idols too,,,i have grown to see dj in different light than g/o board,,,borracho is a good kid all around ,,,i'm buzzed i was out with other part of the 4 seasons ..4 of us italian americans ,,italian dinner,wine,espresso,laughs ,,good food talking about the 90's scene in nj,,and checking out the milf's and hot youngings at the resteraunt,,ciao...

nice man 8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 01:45:00 AM
Yes about around 100 would be better, although I agree with Barracho 1 gram per pound of bodyweight is best.

so are you saying that if i jack my protien intake up to 1 gram per pound of bodyweight that i will get even better results?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 01:59:40 AM
wow! beautiful lines on this dude! look at that tight and tiny little waist :P :P :P (slightly homo)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSAzbWU_8918x04Ju5IUvZE00zcAIWduNLLVITFmVABIHGwF7HT)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 02:56:53 AM
and as far as this protein thing goes i don't even know what the fuck i weigh lol

but i'd say somewhere around a buck 65-70

so i'll shoot for 160-180 grams of protein per day

does that sound bout right mr. n? B?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 04:59:27 AM
hey guys,,,yeah dj beats to his own drum,,i agree with him zane/benfatto are my build idols too,,,i have grown to see dj in different light than g/o board,,,borracho is a good kid all around ,,,i'm buzzed i was out with other part of the 4 seasons ..4 of us italian americans ,,italian dinner,wine,espresso,laughs ,,good food talking about the 90's scene in nj,,and checking out the milf's and hot youngings at the resteraunt,,ciao...

Even though you were slightly buzzed as you wrote this...I'll take it!  8)

But no fist pumping to some good house music  ???

 ;D

yeah man, i know that's true, and i'm trying to change, really i am

in fact, i think that i'm getting better and i'm a little bit more chill and i'm really trying to be more open and empathetic towards others and their feelings, but it's hard man and it's taking alot of work on my part

in fact i need this with my girl, coz i can be such a fucking d!ckhead sometimes and even my own mother said to me "dj, if you said some of the things to me that you've said to your girlfriends, then i'd just get up and go out the door and never come back" lol

Who's perfect?

Not me and not you....well....not yet  :D

Seriously working on it...the body is just a part of it.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 05:03:36 AM
be hitting weighted push-ups here in about 90 min or so, and you can be damn sure dat they WILL GO UP ;)

last workout i got 6 reps til failure with 45 kg strapped on me and this time i'll hit it with 50 kg strapped on me and i bet that i get 6 reppers 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 05:22:27 AM
and as far as this protein thing goes i don't even know what the fuck i weigh lol

but i'd say somewhere around a buck 65-70

so i'll shoot for 160-180 grams of protein per day

does that sound bout right mr. n? B?
No guarantee but just try 160-180 see if it helps if not then most weight trainers say 1 gram per pond bodyweight minimum.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 07:07:45 AM
"i WILL NOT cease from mental fight" 8) 8) 8)

push-ups coming up right soon... LOOK OUT!!!!

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 08:08:13 AM
got 4 reps til failure while jammin' out to dis tune 8)

"and make no mistake there's women who just wait for the man and machine with the best time"

but i think that we gotta change it to...

"and make no mistake there's women who just wait for the man with the best bod" 8) :P ;)

i'm just a praying that che don't show up

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 09:24:29 AM
No guarantee but just try 160-180 see if it helps if not then most weight trainers say 1 gram per pond bodyweight minimum.

1 gram per pound minimum ??? ??? ???

Christ man! so what's the upper limit?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 09:33:22 AM
I might do an actual competition the following week. If I can drop 4 kilos in 7 days I can enter the classic bodybuilding category. Local guy told me its doable and I would do well. Would rather do physique tbh but I would have to hide my quads under those silly shorts. As far as I know physique conditioning is not as demanding as in bodybuilding which is good since I may be too far for the bbing categories right now imo.

Reason I'm considering this is there will be some perks like free gym membership...supplements ...personalized training, diet among a few other things.

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 09:50:05 AM
I might do an actual competition the following week. If I can drop 4 kilos in 7 days I can enter the classic bodybuilding category. Local guy told me its doable and I would do well. Would rather do physique tbh but I would have to hide my quads under those silly shorts. As far as I know physique conditioning is not as demanding as in bodybuilding which is good since I may be too far for the bbing categories right now imo.

Reason I'm considering this is there will be some perks like free gym membership...supplements ...personalized training, diet among a few other things.


Do it man, I mean you already pretty much in shape and you got two weeks. I have never paid a gym membership in my life, I trained at home until winning contests then gym owners let me train free because they knew could bring people in to sign up for memberships.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 09:53:39 AM
I might do an actual competition the following week. If I can drop 4 kilos in 7 days I can enter the classic bodybuilding category. Local guy told me its doable and I would do well. Would rather do physique tbh but I would have to hide my quads under those silly shorts. As far as I know physique conditioning is not as demanding as in bodybuilding which is good since I may be too far for the bbing categories right now imo.

Reason I'm considering this is there will be some perks like free gym membership...supplements ...personalized training, diet among a few other things.



wow! i'm impressed dude 8)

so you have to drop 4 kg to make the weight limit i assume?

what is the weight limit per height? i'd guess they have tall, medium, and short categories right?

i don't think that i'd ever step on stage, but i would be up for some physique art or body modelling, or just some art pics if i can get that "certain look" which i think that i can 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 10:45:14 AM
Barracho only thing, I am hearing Kim Jong-un may enter as well, I hear he has some big guns.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 11:02:12 AM
this protein thing is driving me fucking nuts!!!

Christ! ima gonna find the answer even if it takes me to hell and back!!!!

right now ima gonna google up King Zane's thoughts and recommendations on it
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
this protein thing is driving me fucking nuts!!!

Christ! ima gonna find the answer even if it takes me to hell and back!!!!

right now ima gonna google up King Zane's thoughts and recommendations on it
Relax man and read this.
http://www.mikementzer.com/proteinparadox.html
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 11:10:35 AM
Barracho only thing, I am hearing Kim Jong-un may enter as well, I hear he has some big guns.

lol

Those asians got huge calves. I don't know why but I've seen plenty skinny asian dudes with amazing calves. GENES!

Yeah dj the classic bodybuilding has weight limits for height as it tries to be more proportionate. I was measured with shoes so I probably measured at 180cm or a little under and I'm supposed to weigh no more than 82 k...so I was told.

I'm better at lbs and inches...dude at the gym is helping me with that.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 11:16:10 AM
Or maybe I can't be more than 86 kilos  ???

82k is like 180lbs...

Shit I can't remember this stuff in kilos lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 11:22:09 AM
lol

Those asians got huge calves. I don't know why but I've seen plenty skinny asian dudes with amazing calves. GENES!

Yeah dj the classic bodybuilding has weight limits for height as it tries to be more proportionate. I was measured with shoes so I probably measured at 180cm or a little under and I'm supposed to weigh no more than 82 k...so I was told.

I'm better at lbs and inches...dude at the gym is helping me with that.
A genetic trait of Asians, you will never see a Asian with small calves and I bet most never work them either maybe the rice fields walking in moist soil all day which puts more resistance on calves = Ancestory genes. I got a friend with huge calves he never done a calf raise in his life. I had to bust my ass to get mine acceptable to be onstage once I got them up not so difficult to maintain.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 11:26:16 AM
A genetic trait of Asians, you will never see a Asian with small calves and I bet most never work them either maybe the rice fields walking in moist soil all day which puts more resistance on calves = Ancestory genes. I got a friend with huge calves he never done a calf raise in his life. I had to bust my ass to get mine acceptable to be onstage once I got them up not so difficult to maintain.

Pisses me off when I see people who don't even train and got nice full calves  :(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 11:29:10 AM
Or maybe I can't be more than 86 kilos  ???

82k is like 180lbs...

Shit I can't remember this stuff in kilos lol

82kg=180

so is this the limit for fellas @ 180 cm?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 11:35:14 AM
82kg=180

so is this the limit for fellas @ 180 cm?

IFBB rules...

http://www.ifbb.com/pdf/Men%27s%20Classic%20Bodybuilding%20Rules%20-%20updated%20July,%202011.pdf
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 11:36:55 AM
Pisses me off when I see people who don't even train and got nice full calves  :(
At the same time most Asians struggle on arms so what does that tell you? Genes rule.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
IFBB rules...

http://www.ifbb.com/pdf/Men%27s%20Classic%20Bodybuilding%20Rules%20-%20updated%20July,%202011.pdf

thanks brother

so max wt for me @ 180 cm would be 86 kg which is a buck 90

my ideal wt is 175-180 IMHO
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 11:59:01 AM
You're probably right if everything grows proportionate. We gotta get you there first and see if you're happy with it.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 12:08:58 PM
You're probably right if everything grows proportionate. We gotta get you there first and see if you're happy with it.

yep, you're right

i got this crazy fear that i'll grow HUGE over night and that i'll and end up looking like some buttugly toady mass monster with no pretty lines and zero aesthetics with no turning back lol

and yeah, i really do have this fear ::)

after reading more on this protein intake guideline recommendations it looks like i'll try and get 200-225 grams per day

so now i'll have to eat lots more chicken, eggs, and cheese :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
yep, you're right

i got this crazy fear that i'll grow HUGE over night and that i'll and end up looking like some buttugly toady mass monster with no pretty lines and zero aesthetics with no turning back lol

and yeah, i really do have this fear ::)

after reading more on this protein intake guideline recommendations it looks like i'll try and get 200-225 grams per day

so now i'll have to eat lots more chicken, eggs, and cheese :-X :-X :-X
Dude what you talking about you don't have the structure to be a mass monster. Relax.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 12:14:46 PM
yep, you're right

i got this crazy fear that i'll grow HUGE over night and that i'll and end up looking like some buttugly toady mass monster with no pretty lines and zero aesthetics with no turning back lol

and yeah, i really do have this fear ::)

after reading more on this protein intake guideline recommendations it looks like i'll try and get 200-225 grams per day

so now i'll have to eat lots more chicken, eggs, and cheese :-X :-X :-X

lol..yeah like people who come to the gym the first time saying...I don't wanna get toooo big.

Or other people like my little brother....he says "I wanna take something that will make me grow fast". And I say... well there's steroids but you still have to train and eat to grow. He's like what?? that's too much is there something easier and faster? lol

And give it a shot with the higher protein....200 sounds perfect.  :)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 12:33:22 PM
Dude what you talking about you don't have the structure to be a mass monster. Relax.

never claimed to be completely rational man

but i'm not shitting when i talk about this crazyass fear, as i really do have this fucked up fear

very similar to my fear that training legs will give me wide-ass child-bearing hips

and yeah, i expressed this to Mentzer on a phone consultation and he said "look at Sergio, you could fit his ass in a tea cup" and yes, Mentzer really said this to me ;D ;D ;D

lol..yeah like people who come to the gym the first time saying...I don't wanna get toooo big.

Or other people like my little brother....he says "I wanna take something that will make me grow fast". And I say... well there's steroids but you still have to train and eat to grow. He's like what?? that's too much is there something easier and faster? lol

And give it a shot with the higher protein....200 sounds perfect.  :)

i just made out a new diet with a 10 oz chicken breast twice a day and 4 eggs at another meal plus my typical cheese breakfast, and it's put me @ 225 grams of pro per day, and @ only 1900 cals 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 12:49:47 PM
Getting "too big" will not happen over night. But I understand what you're saying...recently started seeing guys I thought were HUGE before and realizing I wasn't too far away from that size. Made me think....jeez how much bigger do you really wanna get.

Bigger is not better but also don't let that prevent you from putting on some mass now before you get older and it becomes harder and harder.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
i hear ya man, and i'm just trying to figure out what ideal is for me, and i really think that this is 8)

yeah, he's got better bis than me, but i got better tris than him ;)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc7to3RTMe1r30l77o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 02:39:38 PM
btw B we should decide what pics to use for dis contest

i say... front relaxed, rear relaxed and side relaxed all with leg showing :P :P :P

those will be the pics used to determine leanness and who is the leanest, and then we can send other pics for assessment purposes to determine our strengths and weaknesses (basically for judging our proportions and which muscle groups are behind and need to be brought up and which ones are ahead and can just be maintained) these "extra pics" won't be used for the competition but just be used so that we (or mostly likely i) can hear which muscles you dudes think need more focus and which ones are rather ok

also i want to show how much my chest and arms have come up in this short time frame, if they indeed have done so ;)

i'll most likely send a close up bi shot, and close up calf shot :D :D :D, a close up thigh shot and a back double bi
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 03:35:18 PM
I thought this was battle was gonna be fought in jeans lol

sounds good to me man....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 03:42:23 PM
allright, cool beans

so you gonna come in "as is" or are you gonna do some "tricks of da trade"?

me? well, i'll just come in "as is"
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
A infrapatellar shot may help in the case of a tie.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 03:47:18 PM
allright, cool beans

so you gonna come in "as is" or are you gonna do some "tricks of da trade"?

me? well, i'll just come in "as is"

Too lazy to do anything ....will most likely be flat too since I still have to diet hard if I'm gonna do this up coming contest.

Don't tan anymore either...that shit will age you and give you crocodile skin.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 03:49:10 PM
A infrapatellar shot may help in the case of a tie.

I don't even know what that is
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 03:56:48 PM
Too lazy to do anything ....will most likely be flat too since I still have to diet hard if I'm gonna do this up coming contest.

Don't tan anymore either...that shit will age you and give you crocodile skin.
Just use Protan or Clinique in the winter that's what I use and yes sun tanning will age you.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
Just use Protan or Clinique in the winter that's what I use and yes sun tanning will age you.

I've also heard of some new peptide ...I'm not sure if it comes in a pill or injection but it will give you a natural tan. Have you heard anything of the like?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 04:04:42 PM
I've also heard of some new peptide ...I'm not sure if it comes in a pill or injection but it will give you a natural tan. Have you heard anything of the like?
Yes it is comprised mostly of Melatonin which you can buy in pill form as well with the short time you have though seems you gonna have to "paint" on or get in the sun.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 04:08:41 PM
Yes it is comprised mostly of Melatonin which you can buy in pill form as well with the short time you have though seems you gonna have to "paint" on or get in the sun.

Cool.

I will use the jan tana stuff for the competition. But for the pics for this thing with dj I'll be a little pale since it looks like he's not gonna bother with it either.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 04:11:11 PM
Too lazy to do anything ....will most likely be flat too since I still have to diet hard if I'm gonna do this up coming contest.

Don't tan anymore either...that shit will age you and give you crocodile skin.

speaking of this tanning and aging, i put these 2 pics on this site... http://www.pictriev.com/

and in this 1st one i'm 25 but it put me @ 44 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

and in the 2nd one i'm 35 but it put me @ 20 DOUBLE LOL!!!!!!!!!!

it also said that my x-girl looked 35 when she was in fact 29 there and it said she matched with many india women ??? ??? ???

and in both pics i got a 100% masculine rating 8) 8) 8) FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 04:16:23 PM
Cool.

I will use the jan tana stuff for the competition. But for the pics for this thing with dj I'll be a little pale since it looks like he's not gonna bother with it either.
Jan Tana products are good as well, Jan held women competitions out of Roanoke Va about two hours here I went once to observe.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 04:24:05 PM
speaking of this tanning and aging, i put these 2 pics on this site... http://www.pictriev.com/

and in this 1st one i'm 25 but it put me @ 44 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

and in the 2nd one i'm 35 but it put me @ 20 DOUBLE LOL!!!!!!!!!!

it also said that my x-girl looked 35 when she was in fact 29 there and it said she matched with many india women ??? ??? ???

and in both pics i got a 100% masculine rating 8) 8) 8) FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She looks Czechoslovakian.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 04:30:40 PM
did you try out that pic site mr. n??

I got results similar to dj...deviated quite a bit by pic.

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
did you try out that pic site mr. n??

I got results similar to dj...deviated quite a bit by pic.



did you get a 100% masculine rating ;)


She looks Czechoslovakian.

whew!

so did you try that site out with yo pic?

i bet that you didn't get a 100% masculine rating like i did, ya homo :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 04:36:08 PM
did you get a 100% masculine rating ;)



yeah but on one pic the software or whatever zeroed in on a corner of my forehead...lol

giving me a ridiculously feminine rating and comparing me to famous asian dudes lol. Funny I dated a korean fob and she said she didn't like korean men cause they were too feminine.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 04:36:22 PM
did you try out that pic site mr. n??

I got results similar to dj...deviated quite a bit by pic.


Yea I got 49%  :'( but I didnt wash my hair today, I'll try again tomorrow.
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Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 04:38:52 PM
lol

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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 04:48:31 PM
lol


What's the criteria for this competion you are entering? Do you know any of the judges because see judges are biased if the know someone being a judge before I admit this. So there are two ways know the judges or come in unknown which works too a "shock value".
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Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
What's the criteria for this competion you are entering? Do you know any of the judges because see judges are biased if the know someone being a judge before I admit this. So there are two ways know the judges or come in unknown which works too a "shock value".

IFBB rules....and I don't know the judges  :-\

I will bug you and njflex for tips via pm as you guys have done this before.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 04:52:51 PM
Yea I got 49%  :'( but I didnt wash my hair today, I'll try again tomorrow.

49% masculine ??? ??? ???

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 04:56:34 PM
IFBB rules....and I don't know the judges  :-\

I will bug you and njflex for tips via pm as you guys have done this before.
The 7 mandatory poses these are most important the contest is determined in pre-judging, night show helps if people are close but mostly just for the audience. I'll be here to help. Good luck.
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Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 05:06:26 PM
The 7 mandatory poses these are most important the contest is determined in pre-judging, night show helps if people are close but mostly just for the audience. I'll be here to help. Good luck.

Thanks brother! 
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Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 05:07:07 PM
Thanks brother! 

no problem ma man!
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Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 05:14:34 PM
no problem ma man!

lol

You helped a lot in keeping a strict diet with all the trash talk  :D
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Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 05:23:47 PM
lol

You helped a lot in keeping a strict diet with all the trash talk  :D

i aim to please brother 8)

in fact, here's what the ladies say about me ;D

yep, i'm a 1 man band who can do it all 8)

"here i am, take my hand, I'M YOUR MAN"

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 13, 2013, 05:27:06 PM
lol

you play any instruments dj?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 05:29:17 PM
no problem ma man!
WTF man I gave Barracho info on the 7 mandatories and you trying to take credit for it. Go eat some potato chips the diet is getting to you.
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Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
no, but i have written some lyrics for some local bands that sometimes play in my area :)

i wrote some lines to a love balled that this band used and they added in some of there own to it as well

i haven't really written a whole song but i've provided some lyrical input which they used to add to thier own lyrics

btw, this lyric drives me fucking nuts...

"darling being close to you made all my dreams come true" 

fuck man! i kinda want my girl to say this to me but then i kinda don't coz then the pressure would be too damn  much and it would get to me :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 05:35:03 PM
WTF man I gave Barracho info on the 7 mandatories and you trying to take credit for it. Go eat some potato chips the diet is getting to you.

relax baby! i'm just trolling

and please don't pull yo shotgun on me, or i'll have to spit on your car lol
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 06:15:21 PM
relax baby! i'm just trolling

and please don't pull yo shotgun on me, or i'll have to spit on your car lol
Made me laugh  :D
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Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 06:32:53 PM
"Cathy I'm lost I said though I knew she was sleeping, and I'm empty and aching and I don't know why"

sorry dudes, i'm in a bit of a melancholy mood at the moment, but don't worry it will soon pass and then i'll be back to my arrogant self right quick :D :D :D

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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
"Cathy I'm lost I said though I knew she was sleeping, and I'm empty and aching and I don't know why"

sorry dudes, i'm in a bit of a melancholy mood at the moment, but don't worry it will soon pass and then i'll be back to my arrogant self right quick :D :D :D


These two look gay.
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Post by: dj181 on April 13, 2013, 06:40:41 PM
These two look gay.

they're not gay, just jewish :D :D :D

the funny thing is paul simon wrote some really beautiful lyrics, but he wasn't this romantic guy in his lyrics, in fact, he was quite the slut and a huge womanizer

gorden lightfoot is another who wrote beautiful lyrics but was actually quite a fucking asshole d!ckhead IRL

shit man! i just thought of this... maybe i'm as big of a phoney asshole as both of them are :'( :'( :'(

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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 13, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
I'm going with Boz Scaggs. The dirty lowdown.
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Post by: wild willie on April 13, 2013, 09:56:59 PM
I'm going with Boz Scaggs. The dirty lowdown.

DAMN GOOD TUNE!!
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 03:28:16 AM
DAMN GOOD TUNE!!
Yes it's all about being smooth and cool.  8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 05:20:50 AM
Yes it's all about being smooth and cool.  8)

this one's better 8) ;) ;D

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 07:21:15 AM
got legs (ie. squats) coming up here soon, so let's see wot i can do 8)

where you at B?!
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Post by: Borracho on April 14, 2013, 07:31:25 AM
You love music man I'm surprised you never picked up a guitar, drum kit, piano or something like that.

I used to play in a band back in high school...sung vocals and played rhythm guitar.

You should get into something like that..even writing lyrics is good though...it's like therapy.


no, but i have written some lyrics for some local bands that sometimes play in my area :)

i wrote some lines to a love balled that this band used and they added in some of there own to it as well

i haven't really written a whole song but i've provided some lyrical input which they used to add to thier own lyrics

btw, this lyric drives me fucking nuts...

"darling being close to you made all my dreams come true" 

fuck man! i kinda want my girl to say this to me but then i kinda don't coz then the pressure would be too damn  much and it would get to me :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 07:49:31 AM
You love music man I'm surprised you never picked up a guitar, drum kit, piano or something like that.

I used to play in a band back in high school...sung vocals and played rhythm guitar.

You should get into something like that..even writing lyrics is good though...it's like therapy.



you're canadian right?

so i suppose you like these fellas ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 14, 2013, 07:57:52 AM
haha yeah rush has some good tunes. This band is pretty big in Canada but not so much outside of it...

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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 08:08:24 AM
are you kidding man ??? ??? ???

rush is/was FUCKING HUGE in da jew s of a

my mother can't fucking stand getty's voice as i would play it as a young punkass teen and i used to tell her that she's just not smart and sophisticated enough to understand them andf thier deep, intelligent and thoughtful lyrics, even though my mother earned a master's degree in education and is a pretty intelligent woman, but she's not as intelligent as her son ;D ;D ;D

but i will give my mother credit, she is a very hard-worker while i am a fucking lazy bum LOL!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 08:56:53 AM
Kim jong un won't let you play that in his country.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
squats went up 3 FULL REPS

KA-POW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 10:51:44 AM
and speaking of this squat thing, it's seems that i'm gonna max out the wt that i have pretty soon, much sooner that i expected in fact ;)

so hopefully you dudes will say that my legs are big enough and that i don't need to make them any bigger ;D ;D ;D

remember, i want IDEAL PROPORTIONS and not a bob paris over-developed lower body in relation to his upper body :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 11:00:25 AM
Ok , Barracho is coming in the background.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 11:17:52 AM
so how's his proportions :D :D :D

dj=beauty man ;D ;D ;D

but just don't mention che :'( :( :'( :( :'( :(
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 01:14:03 PM
got some bronzing lotion and i put it on the back of my hand to test it out, and it's not bad actually, so i'll most likely use it to give myself just a tad bit of color

this lotion is FRENCH, so i shouldn't be too surprised that it's not bad

VIVE LA FRANCE!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
so how the low cals treating ya B? and how low are you going?

the funny thing is, i've been staying @ 1500-1800 for the past few weeks and it hasn't been that difficult actually

so i just may stay this low for another month or 2, depending upon how lean i really am

i wanna hit 6-7% and then stay there while i add on some more muscle 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 03:31:47 PM
word on the streets is that njflex is gonna enter this contest

i just hope that che don't jump in as well
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 03:42:04 PM
word on the streets is that njflex is gonna enter this contest

i just hope that che don't jump in as well
If NJFlex jumps in and che then 3rd or fourth will be determined.
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
If NJFlex jumps in and che then 3rd or fourth will be determined.

well if che jumps in then it's LIGHTS OUT for everyone else

anyway this contest is about who is leanest not who is the best "bodybuilder"
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 04:27:27 PM
well if che jumps in then it's LIGHTS OUT for everyone else

anyway this contest is about who is leanest not who is the best "bodybuilder"
che won't jump in. You got got to worry about NJ and Barracho.
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 04:33:08 PM
che won't jump in. You got got to worry about NJ and Barracho.

if they wanna do a men's physique against me in sept/oct then it'll LIGHTS OUT for both of them and maybe even for King Che as well ;)

i FUCKING FINALLY got everything down pat (training, diet, etc), so there basically is no stopping me since my OUTSTANDING STRUCTURE will take me to the TOP 8) 8) 8)

do you know any art physique photographers ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 04:44:36 PM
if they wanna do a men's physique against me in sept/oct then it'll LIGHTS OUT for both of them and maybe even for King Che as well ;)

i FUCKING FINALLY got everything down pat (training, diet, etc), so there basically is no stopping me since my OUTSTANDING STRUCTURE will take me to the TOP 8) 8) 8)

do you know any art physique photographers ;D ;D ;D
We are not talking sept/oct we are talking about Wednesday. Fuck September seems like you are trying to back out of this which you started.
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 04:50:02 PM
We are not talking sept/oct we are talking about Wednesday. Fuck September seems like you are trying to back out of this which you started.

i'm not backing out dummy

i'm just saying that i'm not @ even 70% right now, but i'm still pretty damn lean ;)

i'd put me @ sub-7 RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
i'm not backing out dummy

i'm just saying that i'm not @ even 70% right now, but i'm still pretty damn lean ;)

i'd put me @ sub-7 RIGHT NOW
Sounds weak man, Barracho is on his game. Pick up the pace.
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 05:09:21 PM
Sounds weak man, Barracho is on his game. Pick up the pace.

you're the one that's trying to make this a bodybuilding contest not me

and i'm trying to understand and figure out why you are trying to do so ??? ??? ???

it's only about LEANESS dude, nothing more

not who has the biggest arms or the best physique, so why you trying to put this on it dude?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 05:21:20 PM
you're the one that's trying to make this a bodybuilding contest not me

and i'm trying to understand and figure out why you are trying to do so ??? ??? ???

it's only about LEANESS dude, nothing more

not who has the biggest arms or the best physique, so why you trying to put this on it dude?
I don't give a damn, but if leaness is the same what's the tie breaker? Thats why I keep suggesting other bodyparts.
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 05:24:17 PM
I don't give a damn, but if leaness is the same what's the tie breaker? Thats why I keep suggesting other bodyparts.

then it's a tie, and that's it, and there is no tie fucking breaker

it won't be a tie anyway ::)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 05:51:02 PM
then it's a tie, and that's it, and there is no tie fucking breaker

it won't be a tie anyway ::)
So if you don't to win then why try? Damn man are you here to win or lose?
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Post by: dj181 on April 14, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
So if you don't to win then why try? Damn man are you here to win or lose?

winning is secondary as i don't follow that bullshit american brainwash that only winners count, FUCK THAT NOISE

my thing is to PROVE to you dudes what i can do, and you'll be shocked at what i did in such a short period of time ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 06:07:56 PM
winning is secondary as i don't follow that bullshit american brainwash that only winners count, FUCK THAT NOISE

my thing is to PROVE to you dudes what i can do, and you'll be shocked at what i did in such a short period of time ;) ;) ;)
Looks like you are giving up man.
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Post by: njflex on April 14, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
still same premise we will worry about set/oct later,,,2 man race who's leaner,,but also borracho wants valid opinions on a men physique/bber look as well,,dj asks for same opinion he will be granted as well,,,
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 14, 2013, 06:47:44 PM
still same premise we will worry about set/oct later,,,2 man race who's leaner,,but also borracho wants valid opinions on a men physique/bber look as well,,dj asks for same opinion he will be granted as well,,,
Yea Borracho is getting on stage, a whole different ballgame than a internet thing. We both have been there so you know.
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Post by: njflex on April 14, 2013, 06:54:37 PM
Yea Borracho is getting on stage, a whole different ballgame than a internet thing. We both have been there so you know.
8)....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 03:55:44 AM
still same premise we will worry about set/oct later,,,2 man race who's leaner,,but also borracho wants valid opinions on a men physique/bber look as well,,dj asks for same opinion he will be granted as well,,,

thanks dude, and that's all i ask

i want opinions on how well i did or didn't progress since last time, and which parts still need work and which parts are OK and can be maintained while the other parts that need work are built up in order to give me God-like PROPORTIONS ;D 8) ;) :) :P

p.s. i also near competed ON STAGE

p.p.s. my trainer/coach at that time was Mr, Bob Lorimer son of Mr. Jim Lorimer the man who co-started the Arnold Classic in my hometown of Columbus, Ohio and also King Arnold's best man at his wedding to maria ;)
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 04:14:16 AM
btw, i think that we got a little misunderstanding here

it seems that mr. n wants me to go out all and do most the tricks of the trade for this contest while i want to show my natural everyday walking around condition

who gives a shit about a short-term look condition, i want to show how i look ALL THE TIME ie. 24/7 none of this manipulation horseshit/trickery

yeah i understand that you gotta do that shit for on stage purposes, but my thing is i wanna be straight and forthright and show you dudes how i look ALL THE TIME
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Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 05:55:01 AM
We are not talking sept/oct we are talking about Wednesday. Fuck September seems like you are trying to back out of this which you started.

I was gonna take pics today...forgot it was wednesday.  ;D

DJ...your post above says you wanna show your natural everyday condition but you talk about putting on some color on ya  ;D.
I gotta farmers tan going on right now I don't think you should be too concerned.





(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbqJBgJyFpv4aEnJA8l90qxe5CLHachEKRka11MOgnRQSWHO5u)
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 06:04:12 AM
that's true B, but i'll be using this bronzing cream twice a week as instructed thoughout the spring, summer, and fall, so this will indeed be a part of my everyday look, as i will keep it up for the duration :)

what i'm talking about is this water manipulation nonsense, as that is not and can not be an everyday look, but... a jacked, shaved and tan look is and can be an everyday look 8)

p.s. my ab skinfold is now down to a LEGIT 6 mm ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 06:28:14 AM
I was gonna take pics today...forgot it was wednesday.  ;D

DJ...your post above says you wanna show your natural everyday condition but you talk about putting on some color on ya  ;D.
I gotta farmers tan going on right now I don't think you should be too concerned.





(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQbqJBgJyFpv4aEnJA8l90qxe5CLHachEKRka11MOgnRQSWHO5u)
LOL at the pic there...
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 06:50:39 AM
i'll take the pics tomorrow afternoon and if my student that's taking the pics sends them to me tomorrow night then i'll send them out to you dudes as soon as i get them

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 07:33:27 AM
i'll take the pics tomorrow afternoon and if my student that's taking the pics sends them to me tomorrow night then i'll send them out to you dudes as soon as i get them


We are waiting. Have you checked the mirror a tape measurement doesn't mean anything.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 07:45:24 AM
We are waiting. Have you checked the mirror a tape measurement doesn't mean anything.

yeah, and i got pretty tight and narrow abs

in fact they could probably be used in a fat-loss pill advert :)

and you'll be getting a nice split bi shot as well, so be ready chumpo :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 07:47:57 AM
do you have abs dj?
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 08:01:46 AM
do you have abs dj?

my torso is my strong point dude, so yeah i guess that i do :)

also my pecs have come up and i'm curious how much you dudes think that they have come up

my girl sure likes how they are looking (chest and abs) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
No really, do you have any pics?

I haven't seen your abdominal muscles in any of the pics you've posted.
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 08:06:15 AM
No really, do you have any pics?

I haven't seen your abdominal muscles in any of the pics you've posted.

well man, they were there in the front relaxed pic i sent you last time right ???

yeah they weren't really in condition there, but they were still there lol

btw, this bronzing lotion takes some time to really show up, so i should have started it earlier, oh well....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 08:13:22 AM
Not really coming through in the pic you sent....

This diet should help bring them out a bit.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
are you saying that i got abs like boyer coe :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 09:02:34 AM
yeah, and i got pretty tight and narrow abs

in fact they could probably be used in a fat-loss pill advert :)

and you'll be getting a nice split bi shot as well, so be ready chumpo :-*
All coffee and cigarettes.  :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
All coffee and cigarettes.  :D

that's what she said

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 01:58:45 PM
i'm curious B ma man!

how lean would you say that you are at the moment?

i'd say that i'm 6-7%

basically sub-7, but not sub-6

also, what's the leanest you've ever been?

i'd say my leanest ever was sub-6
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 02:41:41 PM
i've kinda mapped out a course of action and it goes something like this...

i think that my back and delts are still my strong points and you dudes will be seeing the full wheels tomorrow so you'll "see it all" so to speak

so i plan on continuing to bring up the chest and quads till they match my delts and back, which should happen no later than early july

and then once all the big parts match ie. upper legs, back, chest and delts then i'll finish off my quest by completing the arm and calf development which will be in july, august and maybe even september

i think my chest and quads are pretty damn close to matching my back and delts now so if that is so then i'll be able to finish then out sometime in may, so that will allow me to really focus on the arms and calves for a good 3 or 4 months

it will be weird just hammering bis and calves, but if that's what i gotta do then i guess that's what i gotta do

sorry to write this here B, but it's kind of a reminder to myself if i end up "going off track" by deciding to hammer my torso hard again that it's all about PROPORTION
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 02:54:59 PM
I probably hit 6 before but back when I had no muscle so it didn't look that good.

Right now I don't know...my arms look like 6 but my abs and legs a little higher than that.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 03:03:10 PM
I probably hit 6 before but back when I had no muscle so it didn't look that good.

Right now I don't know...my arms look like 6 but my abs and legs a little higher than that.

allright dude, so may the best man win ;D



Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 03:54:15 PM
Two days left guys sounds like both of you are seem dialed in, I'm hearing that Charlie Sheen has been dropping water and may jump in.
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 04:00:54 PM
Two days left guys sounds like both of you are seem dialed in, I'm hearing that Charlie Sheen has been dropping water and may jump in.

lol

just as long as ma man che don't jump in then it's all good

btw, when i look at myself under the "spotlight" i got a hard grainy look about me but then when i move a bit out of the light into a more "neutral light" i don't look as nearly impressive ??? ??? ???

my pics are taken tomorrow and i was gonna have then in a "neutral light" but maybe i'll take just one under this "spotlight" so you can see my hard dense muscles with veinage running up and down my ab wall :-*
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 04:09:09 PM
lol

just as long as ma man che don't jump in then it's all good

btw, when i look at myself under the "spotlight" i got a hard grainy look about me but then when i move a bit out of the light into a more "neutral light" i don't look as nearly impressive ??? ??? ???

my pics are taken tomorrow and i was gonna have then in a "neutral light" but maybe i'll take just one under this "spotlight" so you can see my hard dense muscles with veinage running up and down my ab wall :-*

You need to drop water man.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 04:13:38 PM
You need to drop water man.

nah man, i wanna show myself in my natural everyday 24/7 state

i'm a naturally dry thin skinned individual anyways, thanks to Germanic Genetics ;D 8) ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 04:25:16 PM
dj ...you seem to be in love with che.

I'm sure he's got a nice build...do you have a link to his pics? ( 50% homo)
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 04:33:16 PM
dj ...you seem to be in love with che.

I'm sure he's got a nice build...do you have a link to his pics? ( 50% homo)

 ;D ;D ;D

i'm sorry man, but i don't know where to find his pics, and he hasn't posted so many as well

he's got outstanding proportions and very small joints

i think he competed @ 170 or so @ 5'9"

and he is a lifetime natty

we sometimes call each other "ma man" so maybe i still got a chance with him ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 04:35:23 PM
;D ;D ;D

i'm sorry man, but i don't know where to find his pics, and he hasn't posted so many as well

he's got outstanding proportions and very small joints

i think he competed @ 170 or so @ 5'9"

and he is a lifetime natty

we sometimes call each other "ma man" so maybe i still got a chance with him ;D ;D ;D

lol
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
;D ;D ;D

i'm sorry man, but i don't know where to find his pics, and he hasn't posted so many as well

he's got outstanding proportions and very small joints

i think he competed @ 170 or so @ 5'9"

and he is a lifetime natty

we sometimes call each other "ma man" so maybe i still got a chance with him ;D ;D ;D
Is this him?  8) Joking.

I'll try and find some pics of che probably got one or two from judging the GB contest.
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Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 07:20:55 PM
^ lol

Honest question though....can you critique what you see there.

Curious on your opinions.
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Post by: njflex on April 15, 2013, 07:26:00 PM
long torso,,strangely ripped calves and not a hint of hamstrings whatsoever,,delt and arms are decent but nowhere near a contest conditioned stage body,,no lats /no thickness there..
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 07:26:42 PM
^ lol

Honest question though....can you critique what you see there.

Curious on your opinions.
Vince has a decent structure but no mass, and decent calves for a black dude most have "high" calves meaning short muscle length. But if you check him overall decent symmetry nothing really overpowers one part or another.
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Post by: njflex on April 15, 2013, 07:29:01 PM
see b i wrote 1st neither one of us saw what each other wrote and look almost word for word same theory,,,
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 15, 2013, 07:36:52 PM
see b i wrote 1st neither one of us saw what each other wrote and look almost word for word same theory,,,
Thats why we are judges, having judged live contests and the GB thing just experience and you have competed so know the criteria.
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Post by: Borracho on April 15, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
hahah yeah I noticed you guys posted your response at the same time.

Thats why we are judges, having judged live contests and the GB thing just experience and you have competed so know the criteria.

You two guys know your bbing thats for sure.
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Post by: dj181 on April 15, 2013, 11:34:28 PM
so where's ma man che?!
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 06:09:46 AM
btw dudes, i'm going to shift into my muscle gain no fat gain even maybe more fat loss phase now, and i posted this in the nutrition board but i'll put it here too just in case you dudes have any good advices pour moi

"at the moment i'm sitting @ sub-7, so now i want to shift gears and gain muscle while not gaining fat or possibly even losing more fat along the way

i was eating roughly 1500-1800 cals per day for the last few weeks and it's brought me down to sub-7, so i'm thinking that i could keep this 1500-1800 base most days of the week and then having a higher cal day, say something like 2500-2800 cals roughly once every 3 to 5 days

so i'm curious if anyone else has tried this or if they know anything about it?

does lyle mcdonald or any other "diet guru" speak about this?

any thoughts, ideas or links would be appreciated

thanks dudes :)"
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 08:53:16 AM
Hey man...

The lean gains approach is 20% under maintenance calories on off days and 20% above on training days. Seems people have had good results with that....you don't have to do the fasting thing but having higher cals on training days make sense.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 08:59:52 AM
Hey man...

The lean gains approach is 20% under maintenance calories on off days and 20% above on training days. Seems people have had good results with that....you don't have to do the fasting thing but having higher cals on training days make sense.
I posted in the other thread, I always keep it simple maybe 2200 for dj a day for his size to maintain current leaness. I always do 6 days on lows cals then a cheat day now you can't "blow it out of the water" on cheat days but just have some foods you like. The up and down every 3 or so days is to difficult to keep up with I guess I'm lazy and try to simply things.
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 09:29:35 AM
I posted in the other thread, I always keep it simple maybe 2200 for dj a day for his size to maintain current leaness. I always do 6 days on lows cals then a cheat day now you can't "blow it out of the water" on cheat days but just have some foods you like. The up and down every 3 or so days is to difficult to keep up with I guess I'm lazy and try to simply things.

Yeah some approaches require a lot more planning which can become quite a pain. For me, I've stuck to high calories/low carbs and every 4th or 5th day I just add a high carb day. I've been able to minimize fat gain that way.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 09:52:19 AM
Yeah some approaches require a lot more planning which can become quite a pain. For me, I've stuck to high calories/low carbs and every 4th or 5th day I just add a high carb day. I've been able to minimize fat gain that way.
Thats good maybe 5th or 6th day carb up.

Falcon just called me today says he lost around 20 lbs but has no energy graving fats, reason is he started mowing yards because it's spring here. His carbs are being burned due to mowing sugar/fructose is the first thing the body now he is graving fats why because the body goes to the next source of energy carbs, fats protein last when its gets to protein muscle loss occurs. You can only go on low carbs for a few days the the body redirects itself.
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 09:57:18 AM
once your lean enough it's easier to carb play,you can see in few days/week's time your condition to fall off by just looking in mirror and telling your condition especially abs they get blurred quick...then you could play with simple/complex/choices of carbs oats.rice /wholegrains/starchy veggies to add and subtract...
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 10:00:53 AM
once your lean enough it's easier to carb play,you can see in few days/week's time your condition to fall off by just looking in mirror and telling your condition especially abs they get blurred quick...then you could play with simple/complex/choices of carbs oats.rice /wholegrains/starchy veggies to add and subtract...
Exactly. Thing I found keep the carbs back at night, maybe some broccoli or green beans but not very many carbs but no starches as in potatoes or pasta.
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 10:17:14 AM
Exactly. Thing I found keep the carbs back at night, maybe some broccoli or green beans but not very many carbs but no starches as in potatoes or pasta.
u be surprised in a pinch salad greens/cucumbers/tomatoes large bowl with just balsamic will do trick.....have to be careful if balsamic which is kinda sweet could trigger sugar rush lol,,,
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 10:30:08 AM
allright dudes

just had the pics taken and you'll be getting them within 3 hours or so

btw, just read this article and it says that it's cool to get to 2% bodyfat and to stay there

here's an excerpt from it... (and this is a SCIENTIFIC article)

Is it safe for them to get down to 2 percent body fat?

Athletes have to take in adequate amounts of protein to maintain muscle mass, and they still have to take in adequate amounts of carbohydrate to maintain optimal training intensities. If they do this properly, they can maintain heavy workout sessions and lose fat without compromising their performance.

So 2 percent would be a safe lower limit if athletes eat right. What sort of diet should they have?

Meat, fish, poultry and dairy are good protein sources. But they also need to take in a fair amount of carbohydrates. When you're training at high intensities, you're burning more carbs. When those stores deplete, your body has to use something else—this could be fat, but it could be protein. People don't always appreciate how difficult it is to lose fat without losing protein. For athletes to maintain a high level of performance and low body fat, it means they have to a have a really good balance in their diet in order to maintain their health.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=athlete-body-fat
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 10:32:05 AM
and as far a the new "diet" goes i'll start it @ 2200 and then adjust from there while having have a cheat meal (not a whole cheat day, but a cheat meal) once every 3-5 days
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 10:37:24 AM
and as far a the new "diet" goes i'll start it @ 2200 and then adjust from there while having have a cheat meal (not a whole cheat day, but a cheat meal) once every 3-5 days
listen to mr n,,,,i have good knowledge but we are on same page usually ...u will see with training/eating u'll know when u looking flat even when ur lean to add carbs and your pump and look will change day to day,,,contest bbing which u said is temp thing,,is usually only way to gague water/carb/decarb/carb up look,,u literally swell at prejudging pumping up in back its mindblowing,,,
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 10:44:58 AM
listen to mr n,,,,i have good knowledge but we are on same page usually ...u will see with training/eating u'll know when u looking flat even when ur lean to add carbs and your pump and look will change day to day,,,contest bbing which u said is temp thing,,is usually only way to gague water/carb/decarb/carb up look,,u literally swell at prejudging pumping up in back its mindblowing,,,

i know all about these temp changes man as i in fact did some photo shoots back in the day ;)

anyways, my point isn't about temporary changes as i'm shifting now from a pure fat-loss phase to a pure muscle gain without fat gain phase, so this process will be happening over months and months and not days or hours

yeah i know that it's all cals in vs cals out but this equation gets a bit more complicated when you want to gain but to gain only muscle and ZERO FAT
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 10:48:46 AM
i know all about these temp changes man as i in fact did some photo shoots back in the day ;)

anyways, my point isn't about temporary changes as i'm shifting now from a pure fat-loss phase to a pure muscle gain without fat gain phase, so this process will be happening over months and months and not days or hours

yeah i know that it's all cals in vs cals out but this equation gets a bit more complicated when you want to gain but to gain only muscle and ZERO FAT
its tougher than u think,,,i know and hope u do I think u do,,its tough to stay ripped and grow 1/8 inch bigger arm,leg whateva its not normal.u have to give up a little 'condition'to gain a little'size'if u get to desired build that's different story..
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 10:51:08 AM
allright dudes

just had the pics taken and you'll be getting them within 3 hours or so

btw, just read this article and it says that it's cool to get to 2% bodyfat and to stay there

here's an excerpt from it... (and this is a SCIENTIFIC article)

Is it safe for them to get down to 2 percent body fat?

Athletes have to take in adequate amounts of protein to maintain muscle mass, and they still have to take in adequate amounts of carbohydrate to maintain optimal training intensities. If they do this properly, they can maintain heavy workout sessions and lose fat without compromising their performance.

So 2 percent would be a safe lower limit if athletes eat right. What sort of diet should they have?

Meat, fish, poultry and dairy are good protein sources. But they also need to take in a fair amount of carbohydrates. When you're training at high intensities, you're burning more carbs. When those stores deplete, your body has to use something else—this could be fat, but it could be protein. People don't always appreciate how difficult it is to lose fat without losing protein. For athletes to maintain a high level of performance and low body fat, it means they have to a have a really good balance in their diet in order to maintain their health.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=athlete-body-fat
WTF? Yea just eat one snickers bar a day and a cup of soup then  ;D. You cant survive on 2% bodyfat. Quit reading man and just do what your body suggests to do I just told this to Falcon today he has burned up all his carbs mowing and now craving fats why because the body goes to the next source of energy protein being last..
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 11:03:59 AM
WTF? Yea just eat one snickers bar a day and a cup of soup then  ;D. You cant survive on 2% bodyfat. Quit reading man and just do what your body suggests to do I just told this to Falcon today he has burned up all his carbs mowing and now craving fats why because the body goes to the next source of energy protein being last..

my narcissism went out the window and now my OCD is taking over lol

essential bodyfat for men is @ 2-3% so this means that i can get to sub-4 AND STAY THERE 8) 8) 8)

•
Two classifications of body fat
– Essential – necessary for optimal health
•
Fat in bone marrow
•
Cell membranes
– Nonessential or storage
•
Subcutaneous adipose tissue
•
Visceral fat
Essential Fat
•
Males – 2-3%******* HIGHLIGHT************
•
Females – 5-12% (varies)
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
I think your point is 2/3 pct u want to achieve maintain is different than b's,mrn.mine if a bbing standard is to be achieved and not for the long haul.
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 11:11:51 AM
I think your point is 2/3 pct u want to achieve maintain is different than b's,mrn.mine if a bbing standard is to be achieved and not for the long haul.
Exactly. You cant maintain but a couple of weeks.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 11:15:30 AM
well i know that i can hold and maintain 6-7% as i've done it before

but i'm wondering if 4-5% can be held and maintained ???

honestly it wasn't hard maintaining 6-7% and i felt great while doing it
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 11:17:59 AM
well i know that i can hold and maintain 6-7% as i've done it before

but i'm wondering if 4-5% can be held and maintained ???

honestly it wasn't hard maintaining 6-7% and i felt great while doing it
6-7 can be but going below 5 will be difficult to maintain but you are strong minded so maybe you can. One day left you ready?
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Thats good maybe 5th or 6th day carb up.

Falcon just called me today says he lost around 20 lbs but has no energy graving fats, reason is he started mowing yards because it's spring here. His carbs are being burned due to mowing sugar/fructose is the first thing the body now he is graving fats why because the body goes to the next source of energy carbs, fats protein last when its gets to protein muscle loss occurs. You can only go on low carbs for a few days the the body redirects itself.

Good to hear falcon is getting back in shape again...

its tougher than u think,,,i know and hope u do I think u do,,its tough to stay ripped and grow 1/8 inch bigger arm,leg whateva its not normal.u have to give up a little 'condition'to gain a little'size'if u get to desired build that's different story..

This is true....
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 11:25:32 AM
6-7 can be but going below 5 will be difficult to maintain but you are strong minded so maybe you can. One day left you ready?

am i ready :D :D :D

you, nj, and B will have pics in yo e-mails in less than 2 hours brother man ;)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 11:27:41 AM
am i ready :D :D :D

you, nj, and B will have pics in yo e-mails in less than 2 hours brother man ;)
OK.
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 11:28:26 AM
I'll see if I can pics taken today if not first thing tomorrow guys...
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
I'll see if I can pics taken today if not first thing tomorrow guys...

don't worry ma man, take them at your convenience

p.s. King Che is watching you
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 11:47:59 AM
well i know that i can hold and maintain 6-7% as i've done it before

but i'm wondering if 4-5% can be held and maintained ???

honestly it wasn't hard maintaining 6-7% and i felt great while doing it
u answered your own question 6/7.. ok 4/5 below is torture...dry mouth,ur cold at times even in warm temps no insulation of fat.in clothes ur small as fuk..i'm not talking pro's there big in tight or kinda loose shirts,,i could go on and on,,,
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 11:48:49 AM
u answered your own question 6/7.. ok 4/5 below is torture...dry mouth,ur cold at times even in warm temps no insulation of fat.in clothes ur small as fuk..i'm not talking pro's there big in tight or kinda loose shirts,,i could go on and on,,,
Exactly.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 11:55:42 AM
btw fellas, when you get my pics please tell me by pm what you think my strength's and weaknesses are and which parts need to be brought up to put me into Zane-like proportions 8)

don't do it here, coz i don't want your opinions influencing each others, give my your own feedback via pm

thanks dudes
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 12:07:48 PM
btw fellas, when you get my pics please tell me by pm what you think my strength's and weaknesses are and which parts need to be brought up to put me into Zane-like proportions 8)

don't do it here, coz i don't want your opinions influencing each others, give my your own feedback via pm

thanks dudes
WE ALL WANT ZANE PROPORTIONS LOL....
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 12:16:43 PM
WE ALL WANT ZANE PROPORTIONS LOL....

i'd settle for Che-Like Proportions

SLURP :P :P :P
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 01:29:34 PM
just bought two 2 liters of coke and a gallon of cherry cheesecake ice cream

seeing as i can basically add bout 600 cals back into ma "diet" i'll make those 600 cals consist of coca-cola and cherry ice cream ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 01:33:15 PM
just bought two 2 liters of coke and a gallon of cherry cheesecake ice cream

seeing as i can basically add bout 600 cals back into ma "diet" i'll make those 600 cals consist of coca-cola and cherry ice cream ;D ;D ;D
U SHOULD SEE SOME CRAZY VASCULARITY WITH ADDED SUGAR/FAT...
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 01:43:37 PM
U SHOULD SEE SOME CRAZY VASCULARITY WITH ADDED SUGAR/FAT...

well, i'm eating 100 grams of the ice cream right now and then i'll wash if down with a half a liter of coke ;D

Che Approved?
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 02:22:55 PM
ok dudes, i just sent the pics to y'all

there is 14 on them including some calf and quad shots

ENJOY!
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 02:28:22 PM
That's a lot of shots...

Can you try to resend them to me...had to clean out my inbox
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
allright, just resent them brother
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 02:48:01 PM
just sent them to the new mail B

p.s. I saw Che in the corner of the darkness, so.... LOOK OUT!!!!!
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 03:13:39 PM
just bought two 2 liters of coke and a gallon of cherry cheesecake ice cream

seeing as i can basically add bout 600 cals back into ma "diet" i'll make those 600 cals consist of coca-cola and cherry ice cream ;D ;D ;D
This sounds good maybe I need to go to the store.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
This sounds good maybe I need to go to the store.

lol

i've decided to have an 1800 cal base with 160 pro gram base and then on certain days i can have a burger and fries or a small pizza and still be safe ;)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 03:27:46 PM
lol

i've decided to have an 1800 cal base with 160 pro gram base and then on certain days i can have a burger and fries or a small pizza and still be safe ;)
1800 seems ok if you can handle it I say you can go to 2000 being lean as you are metabolism gets faster, be careful on the burger and fries they can be addicting.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 03:58:56 PM
1800 seems ok if you can handle it I say you can go to 2000 being lean as you are metabolism gets faster, be careful on the burger and fries they can be addicting.

actually the sweets are worse coz the make me hungry

burgers and fries satisfy me and don't stimulate my appetite like sweets do

i shouldn't have bought this fucking ice cream, but that's ok coz i'll finish it off tomorrow and then not buy it again FUCK DAT NOISE >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 04:03:56 PM
actually the sweets are worse coz the make me hungry

burgers and fries satisfy me and don't stimulate my appetite like sweets do

i shouldn't have bought this fucking ice cream, but that's ok coz i'll finish it off tomorrow and then not buy it again FUCK DAT NOISE >:( >:( >:(
This is the same thing Falcon asked today. He is craving fats because he is mowing yards now burning carbs up then the body turns to fats for energy once fats get low you crave them hence the burger and fries do the trick.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 04:12:17 PM
but what i'm saying is that fats satisfy me and i don't have to eat anymore

but sweets make me hungry

btw, i don't really crave things, as that's for weak-minded individuals ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 04:20:19 PM
but what i'm saying is that fats satisfy me and i don't have to eat anymore

but sweets make me hungry

btw, i don't really crave things, as that's for weak-minded individuals ;)
fats are 9 grams per calorie, carbs are 4 what does that say? When you eat fats you don't get hungry as quickly. Example my dad used to say "if I eat a apple then I want to eat everything in the house" apple is fructose ie sugar eating sugar just makes you want more.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
yes i know this about the calorie content of macros dude ;)

so let me put it this way...

if i eat 1000 cals from cheesebruger and fries i stay not hungry for a damn long time

and if i eat 1000 cals from cola and chocolates i get hungry again in an hour or 2

so both meals have 1000 cals and ARE EQUAL IN CAL CONTENT

but.... the sugar meal makes me hungry again quickly, while the fat meal makes me not hungry for long time
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 05:15:47 PM
yes i know this about the calorie content of macros dude ;)

so let me put it this way...

if i eat 1000 cals from cheesebruger and fries i stay not hungry for a damn long time

and if i eat 1000 cals from cola and chocolates i get hungry again in an hour or 2

so both meals have 1000 cals and ARE EQUAL IN CAL CONTENT

but.... the sugar meal makes me hungry again quickly, while the fat meal makes me not hungry for long time
Exactly what I am saying, the body burns sugar faster than fat so you get hungry faster than eating fats which take longer to burn.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
hey fellas, i found a nice image of us back in the day when we had our little band ;D ;D ;D

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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
pics have been sent gentleman.

Farmers tan ftw!  ;D
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 06:28:24 PM
I'm still dieting hard seeing if I can be ready for saturday.
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 06:31:26 PM
your show is this saturday or next saturday?
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 06:33:58 PM
your show is this saturday or next saturday?

This one coming up.

Extreme conditioning is actually frowned upon in physique so maybe a little color and water manipulation....
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Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
This one coming up.

Extreme conditioning is actually frowned upon in physique so maybe a little color and water manipulation....

color makes a huge difference IMO

now you know why i always wished that i was a black man 8)
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Post by: Mr Nobody on April 16, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
color makes a huge difference IMO

now you know why i always wished that i was a black man 8)
I thought you were black, damn now I got to redirect.
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Post by: Borracho on April 16, 2013, 06:38:17 PM
color makes a huge difference IMO

now you know why i always wished that i was a black man 8)

Yeah it would be ok without all the racism and all  ;D
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Post by: njflex on April 16, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
all pics viewed sent borracho my critique and hopefully dj got mine redirected ,,if not fuk i have a lot of typing to do,,then mr n and i will determine winner  or fair outcome after we reconvine sp?via pm...great job tho both very well done and thought out and effort was made,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 16, 2013, 11:40:04 PM
all pics viewed sent borracho my critique and hopefully dj got mine redirected ,,if not fuk i have a lot of typing to do,,then mr n and i will determine winner  or fair outcome after we reconvine sp?via pm...great job tho both very well done and thought out and effort was made,,,


didn't get your critique brother

if mr. n still has it then he can forward it to me
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 01:06:33 AM
We got Parker as the third judge, he has the pics and I explained to keep them on this thread. We will judge each similar pic on 10 the point system, 10 being highest 1 lowest on similar pics if NJ agrees. The most points win.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 02:07:22 AM
so you're making this a bodybuilding/body part contest, right?

so what about the ORIGINAL REASON for this contest?

ie. WHO IS THE FUCKING LEANEST? :D :D :D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 03:09:25 AM
so you're making this a bodybuilding/body part contest, right?

so what about the ORIGINAL REASON for this contest?

ie. WHO IS THE FUCKING LEANEST? :D :D :D


Now I'm thinking I shoulda put some color on at least  ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 03:13:41 AM
Now I'm thinking I shoulda put some color on at least  ;D


we should have asked CHE to be the 3rd judge, but maybe MA MAN would have shown some favoritism ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 06:15:15 AM
Ok these are the similar poses. Barracho sent a side chest pic arm flexed. I didnt get one from dj or that would be another one.

Front relaxed
Right arm bicep
Back double bicep
Frontal thigh
Side triceps

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 06:24:21 AM
what about who is leanest ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 06:25:18 AM
what about who is leanest ;)
Thats what it's about but you only compare leaness in different poses.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 06:28:46 AM
what about who is leanest ;)
IT WILL BE ADRESSED I TOLD BORRACHO AND MRN SCALE I USED IT WAS CLOSE,,,ILL SEND U REVAMPED CRITIQUE...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 06:37:48 AM
Thats what it's about but you only compare leaness in different poses.

15 can compare it with only 1 front relaxed shot ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 06:40:24 AM
15 can compare it with only 1 front relaxed shot ;D
Ok then if thats all you want, you two have to agree before we judge. I sent the poses so send us a list back if you don't agree, Barracho has to agree as well.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 06:42:51 AM
Ok then if thats all you want, you two have to agree before we judge. I sent the poses so send us a list back if you don't agree, Barracho has to agree as well.

relax homie

it's only a joke

but it would be kinda funny to get 15's input lol
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
relax homie

it's only a joke

but it would be kinda funny to get 15's input lol
So do you agree to the pose list? I am relaxed all the time dawg.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 06:53:14 AM
I'm cool with whatever you want mr n.

I could even go take more shots under better lighting if needed ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 06:59:40 AM
I'm cool with whatever you want mr n.

I could even go take more shots under better lighting if needed ;D
The pics are ok better lighting not required.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 07:00:26 AM
fuck!!!!!!!!!

just give us the goddamn verdict >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 07:00:36 AM
Question for mr. n and njflex...how do you guys train when the contest is just days away?

Go light...full body...or just how you normally would?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 07:03:01 AM
fuck!!!!!!!!!

just give us the goddamn verdict >:( >:( >:(

hey.... take it easy!!  >:(







 ;D
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 07:03:30 AM
Question for mr. n and njflex...how do you guys train when the contest is just days away?

Go light...full body...or just how you normally would?
For me I continue heavy to save muscle mass, just drop cals and water.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 07:04:48 AM
For me I continue heavy to save muscle mass, just drop cals and water.

cool.  8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 07:05:08 AM
hey.... take it easy!!  >:(







 ;D

here's me baby 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 07:06:13 AM
nice tune!
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 07:15:23 AM
nice tune!

agreed

and this tune makes me think of ma man che

i can just picture him in da club wearing some coolass fedor hat strutting around all confident and c0ck-sure of himself driving the ladies nuts 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 07:27:32 AM
agreed

and this tune makes me think of ma man che

i can just picture him in da club wearing some coolass fedor hat strutting around all confident and c0ck-sure of himself driving the ladies nuts 8)


che don't post very much, a aloof guy he is, mostly posts about boxing.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 07:30:01 AM
che don't post very much, a aloof guy he is, mostly posts about boxing.

he's one of the best trolls on this board
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 07:41:04 AM
damn! i love this tune :)

and Kim ain't so bad either 8)

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 07:42:22 AM
Front relaxed - 8 Barracho -7 dj181
Right arm bicep - 9 Barracho - 8 dj181
Back double bicep - 8 - dj181 - 7 Barracho
Frontal thigh - 10 Barracho - 8 dj181
Side triceps - 9 dj181 - Barracho 8

Total -Barracho 42 - dj181 39

Waiting on the other judges for the overall decision.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Parker on April 17, 2013, 09:26:00 AM
Barracho:
Quads-8
Calves-8
Abs-8
Side triceps-8
Side abs-7
Chest-6
Delts-7
Front overall-7
Back double bi-7

Dj
Side delt-8 (overpowering rear and front delts)
Chest-7
Abs-6
Arms-7
Legs/quads-6
Calves-7

Back double biceps--6
Front overall--6
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 09:35:25 AM
Barracho:
Quads-8
Calves-8
Abs-8
Side triceps-8
Side abs-7
Chest-6
Delts-7
Front overall-7
Back double bi-7

Dj
Side delt-8 (overpowering rear and front delts)
Chest-7
Abs-6
Arms-7
Legs/quads-6
Calves-7

Back double biceps--6
Front overall--6

Thanks Parker, so 79 Barracho and 45 dj181.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 09:38:49 AM
So total so far still waiting on NJflex.
Barracho 121.
dj181 84.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 10:10:30 AM
 ???

ok, so let's make this easier

what is B and my BODYFAT PERCENTAGE ??? 8% 12% 6% 5% etc?

again this is saying who as the better bodyparts, but it DOES NOT SAY WHO HAS THE LEAST BODYFAT ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
???

ok, so let's make this easier

what is B and my BODYFAT PERCENTAGE ??? 8% 12% 6% 5% etc?

again this is saying who as the better bodyparts, but it DOES NOT SAY WHO HAS THE LEAST BODYFAT ??? ??? ???
Probably 7- 8
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 10:18:02 AM
CHEST.. BORRACHO .8,, NEEDS SOME UPPER  DJ. 6,, NEEDS MORE OVERALL THICKNESS THERE ..
DELTS.. BORRACHO .8.GOOD OVERALL THERE ,,DJ..8  STRONG BODYPART HAD VEINS AND WERE HARD LOOKING..
BACK.. BORRACHO  7 NEEDS LAT WIDTH AND LOWER..DJ 6 ,,AGAIN HARD THERE DJ BUT NEEDS MORE MASS
BI'S.. BORRACHO 8..BOTH ARE GOOD HERE .............DJ 8 HARD AND HAD SPLIT THERE
TRIS.. BORRACHO 8  GOOD SSIZE AND SEPERATION ..DJ 7 HARD /LEAN NEED SOME SIZE THICKNESS
QUADS.. BORRACHO 9 NICE WHEELS SEPERATION ...DJ 6 NEED SIZE I THINK OVERALL HE HAS NO INTENTION BUT AGAIN DIETED AND HARD/SPERATED HAMS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT HERE TOO DJ NEEDS MUCH WORK HERE SOME DBELL STIFF LEGGED WITH WHAT HE DOES AT  HOME.
CALVES.. BORRACHO 8 ,,GOOD CALF...............DJ 6....SUPRISING ..HARD WITH DECENT SHAPE ..HIGH INSERTION NEED MORE CALF RAISE HEAVY/REPS TO FILL...
TRAPS.. BORRACHO  6 NEED SOME HEIGHT FILL THERE....DJ 5 ,,,NEED SOME HEAVY SHRUGS WON'T HURT THE 'IDEAL'HE TRYING FOR NEED TO BALANCE THE DELTS..TRAPS MEAN STRONG POWER LOOK IN SHIRT...
ABS ,,,BORRACHO 8 AND GOOD SHAPE ,,DEEP SET NEED TO BE HARDER FOR SHOW...DJ 6 ,,,SHALLOW FROM PICS NEED TO BRING THEM OUT MORE COULD BE MIX DIET/TRAINING THEM ..LEAN ENOUGH IN BODY TO POP SUPRISED HERE..

OVERALL GOOD JOB TO BOTH ON CONTEST ..I'M NOT COMPARING MUSCLE,STRUCTURE,BALANCE HERE CAUSE THEN IT WOULD CHANGE DJ'S PERCEPTION OF THE CONTEST,,ALL CONSIDERING ON LEANESS LEVEL 1-10 DJ SCORES AN 8 OVERALL.. JUST WITH THE AMOUNT OF MUSCLE HE HAD AND CONDITION HE PRESENTED WHITH... BORRACHO WHO OUTMASSES HIM STANDS AS BETTER OVER BUILD/SHAPE/...

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 10:22:43 AM
CHEST.. BORRACHO .8,, NEEDS SOME UPPER  DJ. 6,, NEEDS MORE OVERALL THICKNESS THERE ..
DELTS.. BORRACHO .8.GOOD OVERALL THERE ,,DJ..8  STRONG BODYPART HAD VEINS AND WERE HARD LOOKING..
BACK.. BORRACHO  7 NEEDS LAT WIDTH AND LOWER..DJ 6 ,,AGAIN HARD THERE DJ BUT NEEDS MORE MASS
BI'S.. BORRACHO 8..BOTH ARE GOOD HERE .............DJ 8 HARD AND HAD SPLIT THERE
TRIS.. BORRACHO 8  GOOD SSIZE AND SEPERATION ..DJ 7 HARD /LEAN NEED SOME SIZE THICKNESS
QUADS.. BORRACHO 9 NICE WHEELS SEPERATION ...DJ 6 NEED SIZE I THINK OVERALL HE HAS NO INTENTION BUT AGAIN DIETED AND HARD/SPERATED HAMS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT HERE TOO DJ NEEDS MUCH WORK HERE SOME DBELL STIFF LEGGED WITH WHAT HE DOES AT  HOME.
CALVES.. BORRACHO 8 ,,GOOD CALF...............DJ 6....SUPRISING ..HARD WITH DECENT SHAPE ..HIGH INSERTION NEED MORE CALF RAISE HEAVY/REPS TO FILL...
TRAPS.. BORRACHO  6 NEED SOME HEIGHT FILL THERE....DJ 5 ,,,NEED SOME HEAVY SHRUGS WON'T HURT THE 'IDEAL'HE TRYING FOR NEED TO BALANCE THE DELTS..TRAPS MEAN STRONG POWER LOOK IN SHIRT...
ABS ,,,BORRACHO 8 AND GOOD SHAPE ,,DEEP SET NEED TO BE HARDER FOR SHOW...DJ 6 ,,,SHALLOW FROM PICS NEED TO BRING THEM OUT MORE COULD BE MIX DIET/TRAINING THEM ..LEAN ENOUGH IN BODY TO POP SUPRISED HERE..

OVERALL GOOD JOB TO BOTH ON CONTEST ..I'M NOT COMPARING MUSCLE,STRUCTURE,BALANCE HERE CAUSE THEN IT WOULD CHANGE DJ'S PERCEPTION OF THE CONTEST,,ALL CONSIDERING ON LEANESS LEVEL 1-10 DJ SCORES AN 8 OVERALL.. JUST WITH THE AMOUNT OF MUSCLE HE HAD AND CONDITION HE PRESENTED WHITH... BORRACHO WHO OUTMASSES HIM STANDS AS BETTER OVER BUILD/SHAPE/...


Agreed.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
ok, so what % bodyfat am i at?

i say 6%
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 10:32:36 AM
???

ok, so let's make this easier

what is B and my BODYFAT PERCENTAGE ??? 8% 12% 6% 5% etc?

again this is saying who as the better bodyparts, but it DOES NOT SAY WHO HAS THE LEAST BODYFAT ??? ??? ???

U PRESENTED A LEAN BUILD,,WHAT U DID WAS A TOTAL REBOOT FROM LAST PICS WHICH WERE NOT FAVORABLE,I'D SAY U ARE 6-8 DEPENDING ON ACCURACY AND BORRACHO CLOSING ON 8 OR HIGH END 9
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 10:36:30 AM
So final results all three judges pretty much agree on both.

Borracho -  191
dj181     -  136
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 10:38:33 AM
ok, so what % bodyfat am i at?

i say 6%
Around that, I say between 6 and 7.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 10:59:28 AM
Thanks to all for the feedback and to njflex for the detailed parts we both need to work on.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 11:01:52 AM
my pleasure fellas,,,as usual mr nobody keeps things smooth...it was a nice little side dish to chaotic get big landscape....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 11:11:02 AM

U PRESENTED A LEAN BUILD,,WHAT U DID WAS A TOTAL REBOOT FROM LAST PICS WHICH WERE NOT FAVORABLE,I'D SAY U ARE 6-8 DEPENDING ON ACCURACY AND BORRACHO CLOSING ON 8 OR HIGH END 9

thanks man
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 11:12:16 AM
kick ass on sat B 8)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 01:01:19 PM
so it's seems that the final verdict regarding my leanness is roughly 6-7%

from my readings on-line essential fat is 2-3%

so........ FUCK IT

i'm going down to 4-5% 8)

and i'll get there within 2 weeks time ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: jpm101 on April 17, 2013, 01:28:41 PM
Please God, will this thread ever end?
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 01:43:11 PM
Please God, will this thread ever end?
LOL....
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 01:50:29 PM
Please God, will this thread ever end?
I was thinking it would today after final judging.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 17, 2013, 02:11:34 PM
35 PAGES,,,,WHY WOULD IT...DJ WILL JUST A NEW ONE'MY ROAD TO ZANE'
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: jpm101 on April 17, 2013, 03:40:20 PM
"My road to Zane" thread will be a dead end.  Take the "Ain't Gonna Happen Express Way" thread instead. Same results, but you'll arrive quicker at no where land.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Borracho on April 17, 2013, 03:48:07 PM
kick ass on sat B 8)

Thanks dj...

Good job on leaning out!

Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 17, 2013, 03:52:05 PM
"My road to Zane" thread will be a dead end.  Take the "Ain't Gonna Happen Express Way" thread instead. Same results, but you'll arrive quicker at no where land.

i bet that i look better than you chumpo ;)
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 17, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
"My road to Zane" thread will be a dead end.  Take the "Ain't Gonna Happen Express Way" thread instead. Same results, but you'll arrive quicker at no where land.
So what are you trying to say here? I am confused.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 20, 2013, 07:49:16 AM
Are you going to bulk up again dj? I am eating lasgana right now.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 20, 2013, 08:15:49 AM
Are you going to bulk up again dj? I am eating lasgana right now.
LOL,,,
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 20, 2013, 08:57:11 AM
Are you going to bulk up again dj? I am eating lasgana right now.

fuck no!

i'm sitting @ 6% now but i'm gonna take it down to 4% in less than 2 weeks time ;)

pics will be coming around the end of the month 8)

and da word round town is dat B is down to 1200 cals per day
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 20, 2013, 09:05:46 AM
fuck no!

i'm sitting @ 6% now but i'm gonna take it down to 4% in less than 2 weeks time ;)

pics will be coming around the end of the month 8)

and da word round town is dat B is down to 1200 cals per day
I thought you said sept or something before you get there.
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: njflex on April 20, 2013, 09:15:02 AM
I thought you said sept or something before you get there.
WANTS THE BRASS RING...
Title: Re: Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....
Post by: dj181 on April 20, 2013, 10:33:25 AM
I thought you said sept or something before you get there.

sept/oct will be when i have all the size that i want to have ie. be a RIPPED 175 or so

but i will hit 4% in a few weeks time

but the thing i'm contemplating now is if i should just go ahead and get diced real quick-like, or stay ripped while adding lean tissue and go a bit more gradual-like down to 4% while putting on the lean muscle tissue

i think i'll go with the 2nd option, adding lean muscle tissue in the right places while gradually getting leaner and leaner ;)

so this will allow me to stay @ bout 2000 cals per day, me thinks