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Seeems like both sides feel the need to whine a lot about it. Where's the beef really? "reparation" blacks or "Save by the Bell" Jews?
Just saying.
BeautifulManWithGlassesS peed. Brought to you by Baden-Württemberg.
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are you an idiot or a troll?
or both?
and whats with the quotations?..
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every american is currently a slave
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Mass genocide in africa in africa by settlers
The american indians were almost wiped out, then placed in confined areas
The jewish extermination during lenin and stalins day was as bad as hitlers
The crusaders wiped out zillions of muslims if they wouldn't convert (ever wonder where their hatred stems from)
In ghenghis khans day the equivalent of whole countries was wiped out at a time
The romans would kill, enslave, make slaves fight for them, and also toy with them in public entertainment
Shit, there's more!
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Mass genocide in africa in africa by settlers
The american indians were almost wiped out, then placed in confined areas
The jewish extermination during lenin and stalins day was as bad as hitlers
The crusaders wiped out zillions of muslims if they wouldn't convert (ever wonder where their hatred stems from)
In ghenghis khans day the equivalent of whole countries was wiped out at a time
The romans would kill, enslave, make slaves fight for them, and also toy with them in public entertainment
Shit, there's more!
Yes, don't forget tbombz exploiting 1000's of innocent Ugandans for his own sick desires
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Mass genocide in africa in africa by africans
Mass genocide in SE Asia by Asians
The american indians were almost wiped out, then placed in confined areas
The RUSSIAN extermination during lenin and stalins day was as bad as hitlers
In ghenghis khans day the equivalent of whole countries was wiped out at a time
The romans would kill, enslave, make slaves fight for them, and also toy with them in public entertainment
Shit, there's more!
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holocaust was more, uhm, irreversible.
so yeah
Tell that to the Palestinians.
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Kampuchea under Pol Pot - note Kampuchea was a member of the UN for 15 years AFTER this.
Estimates of the total number of deaths resulting from Khmer Rouge policies, including disease and starvation, range from 1 to 3 million out of a population of around 8.4 million. François Ponchaud suggested 2.3 million, R.J. Rummel 2.4 million (counting democide in the civil wars), the Yale Cambodian Genocide Project 1.7 million, and Amnesty International 1.4 million. Demographer Marek Sliwinski concluded that at least 1.8 million were killed from 1975–9 on the basis of the total population decline, compared to roughly 40,000 killed by the U.S. bombing.[29] Researcher Craig Etcheson of the Documentation Center of Cambodia suggests that the death toll was between 2 and 2.5 million, with a "most likely" figure of 2.2 million. After five years of researching some 20,000 grave sites, he concludes that, "these mass graves contain the remains of 1,386,734 victims of execution."[30][31] Execution is believed to have accounted for about 50 percent of the death toll.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
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Regarding Pol Pot - I recommend an amazing film, called The Killing Fields.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087553/
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Yes, don't forget tbombz exploiting 1000's of innocent Ugandans for his own sick desires
at least the shitels weren't involved in any of this crap
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Hitler vs. Stalin: Who Killed More?
In the second half of the twentieth century, Americans were taught to see both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union as the greatest of evils. Hitler was worse, because his regime propagated the unprecedented horror of the Holocaust, the attempt to eradicate an entire people on racial grounds. Yet Stalin was also worse, because his regime killed far, far more people, tens of millions it was often claimed, in the endless wastes of the Gulag. For decades, and even today, this confidence about the difference between the two regimes—quality versus quantity—has set the ground rules for the politics of memory. Even historians of the Holocaust generally take for granted that Stalin killed more people than Hitler, thus placing themselves under greater pressure to stress the special character of the Holocaust, since this is what made the Nazi regime worse than the Stalinist one.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/mar/10/hitler-vs-stalin-who-killed-more/?pagination=false
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Rwandan Genocide
Up to 1 million people killed in 100 days! 100 freaking days!
Over the course of approximately 100 days (from the assassination of Juvénal Habyarimana and Cyprien Ntaryamira on April 6 through mid-July) over 500,000 people were killed, according to a Human Rights Watch estimate.[1] Estimates of the death toll have ranged from 500,000–1,000,000,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide
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every american is currently a slave
this.
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Kampuchea under Pol Pot - note Kampuchea was a member of the UN for 15 years AFTER this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
I can't stand the UN...bunch of hypocrites.
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I can't stand the UN...bunch of hypocrites.
x1000 - criminals.
On a side note - San Holo was the first Jew in space.
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Someone needs to sign some papers for Alice. ::)
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I can't stand the UN...bunch of hypocrites.
UN = abzolutely uselezz.
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Both are just media hyped up myths.
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this thread will go down hill faster than down hill syndrome.
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Holocaust led to JEWS enslaving everyone and SLAVERY led to white men no longer being able to compete in the 100M sprint at the Olympics.
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Holocaust was worse. The intent of the holocaust was the systematic elimination of an entire group of people. The intent of slavery was the importation of people for the purpose of providing forced labor and was not specifically genocidal. While Jews were used as labor that was as a matter of convenience and not the primary purpose of their captivity.
In terms of dollars and cents, the slave had a greater monetary value than the Jews in concentration camps. Importing and owning slaves was expensive and it would not have been in the best interest of the slave owner to kill a slave unless absolutely necessary. There are a pretty good counter arguments to the above.
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Seeems like both sides feel the need to whine a lot about it. Where's the beef really? "reparation" blacks or "Save by the Bell" Jews?
Just saying.
BeautifulManWithGlassesS peed. Brought to you by Baden-Württemberg.
You my friend are a douchebag!
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Seeems like both sides feel the need to whine a lot about it. Where's the beef really? "reparation" blacks or "Save by the Bell" Jews?
Just saying.
BeautifulManWithGlassesS peed. Brought to you by Baden-Württemberg.
Both were horrible but thankfully in our past now.
To me both are bad with no winner really.
It would be like having te choose between Rossane Barr or Hillary Clinton sitting on your face .
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Seeems like both sides feel the need to whine a lot about it. Where's the beef really? "reparation" blacks or "Save by the Bell" Jews?
Just saying.
BeautifulManWithGlassesS peed. Brought to you by Baden-Württemberg.
Holocaust was MUCH more efficient and gave better results.
They should have implemented the same methods on the blacks, but alas, they didn't and look at society of today and what we have today, Kanye West, Lil Wayne et al , Blackies all over Europe etc
The blacks just doesn't know their place these days
Slavery was a Total Failure
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the enslavement of your mom was quite the satisfaction
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BIG DIFFERENCE
Jews learned from it and applied it to dominate
Blacks learned shit and are still waiting for reparations.
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Holocaust was MUCH more efficient and gave better results.
They should have implemented the same methods on the blacks, but alas, they didn't and look at society of today and what we have today, Kanye West, Lil Wayne et al , Blackies all over Europe etc
The blacks just doesn't know their place these days
Slavery was a Total Failure
I think you're a little bit stupid.
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I'm a faggott
We know Gaybear.
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Why does OP specify African slavery and not slavery in general throughout the ages?
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Why does OP specify African slavery and not slavery in general throughout the ages?
Mainly due to it being more recent than the slavery used by the Egyptian Pharaohs or in Ancient Greece.
Not like people care these days about the celtic and anglo-saxic Thralls that the Vikings used in their raids.
Tell me if you see any Brit or Irishman (Brad or Ursus etc) that care about that some of their ancestors were used as Thralls by the Vikings.
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Mainly due to it being more recent than the slavery used by the Egyptian Pharaohs or in Ancient Greece.
Slavery exists today in some countries. Now. Is that worse than Civil War era slavery due to its' presence in time?
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What makes it "worse" is if they fail to accomplish their goals.
They managed to accomplish some of their goals with the Holocaust, which makes it more "efficient" than American Slavery.
But they failed to teach the Blacks what's what with the slavery. At first it was good and worked well, they picked their cotton etc, but look at the blacks of today, they don't know their place.
Today we have Kanye west and the likes chimping it up even in public media, blacks all over Europe raping people etc.
Thus, the American Slavery was worse in efficiency. Just subpar methods really, they gave them too much freedom for each year, were too lenient.
What happened in Ancient Greece has less impact on our society today than for example the American Slavery, which everyone can see the results of these days.
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How about heterosexual men having to watch Hugh Grant movies at the torturous and barbaric hand of girlfriends/wives everywhere?
Surely, this crime against humanity hasn't gone unnoticed....
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How about heterosexual men having to watch Hugh Grant movies at the torturous and barbaric hand of girlfriends/wives everywhere?
Surely, this crime against humanity hasn't gone unnoticed....
Now THAT's the Worst of all!
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Slavery exists today in some countries. Now. Is that worse than Civil War era slavery due to its' presence in time?
Reason Alex chose "The American Slavery" and "The Holocaust" is due to the american blacks and the jews being the most vocal groups regarding these two incidents these days. They have not forgotten what happened to this day.
People still remember the slavery in america and the holocaust and what it did for their families etc.
The slaves that exist today in some countries you speak of have not been able to let themselves get heard / nobody seems to care, even though it is happening as we speak.
Nobody cares today either what happened in Ancient Greece / Egypt regarding slavery since it is so long time ago and forgotten by most.
No brit/irishman holds a grudge against the Scandinavians for what Vikings did back in the day.
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Reason Alex chose "The American Slavery" and "The Holocaust" is due to the american blacks and the jews being the most vocal groups regarding these two incidents these days. They have not forgotten what happened to this day.
The slaves that exist today in some countries you speak of have not been able to let themselves get heard / nobody seems to care.
Nobody cares today either what happened in Ancient Greece / Egypt regarding slavery since it is so long time ago and forgotten by most.
No brit/irishman holds a grudge against the Scandinavians for what Vikings did back in the day.
So, slavery is A-OK as long as nobody is vocal about it?
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So, slavery is A-OK as long as nobody is vocal about it?
Slavery is OK as long as the slaves are black and/or muslim.
But keep it out of the civilized world if you please. Keeping it in Africa and Middle-East is preferred.
Europe and the States are way past slavery in that old sense.
But there is of course modern slavery all over the world, working for low wage, having to watch a Hugh Grant-movie etc
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So, slavery is A-OK as long as nobody is vocal about it?
Slavery is ok if the country doing the slaving doesn't have anything you want.
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How about heterosexual men having to watch Hugh Grant movies at the torturous and barbaric hand of girlfriends/wives everywhere?
Surely, this crime against humanity hasn't gone unnoticed....
Very good point !
Where's the UN now ? Its inhumane, if it was done in war-time, it would be considered inhumane torture, and a war-crime
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Seeems like both sides feel the need to whine a lot about it. Where's the beef really? "reparation" blacks or "Save by the Bell" Jews?
Just saying.
BeautifulManWithGlassesS peed. Brought to you by Baden-Württemberg.
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This Pol Pot fellow sounds like a man of action.
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Well, it's a Pity that the American Slavery-version weren't as successful.
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Mass genocide in africa in africa by settlers
The american indians were almost wiped out, then placed in confined areas
The jewish extermination during lenin and stalins day was as bad as hitlers
The crusaders wiped out zillions of muslims if they wouldn't convert (ever wonder where their hatred stems from)
In ghenghis khans day the equivalent of whole countries was wiped out at a time
The romans would kill, enslave, make slaves fight for them, and also toy with them in public entertainment
Shit, there's more!
every nation on planet has done this. This is standard protocol for warfare-+ but to add to your list; Mao Tse tung confiscated the food Chinese aboriginal tribes people resulting in 30 million (some say way more) deaths by famine.
Hideki Tojo (Responsible for 5,000,000 deaths) want to talk about ruthless, no one beats this man, not Hitler not Stalin, No one. This guy had a facility that would experiment with the most extreme torture methods possible and conducted experiences with weapons, chemicals and the works. Over a quarter million people went through that facility.
all experiments were for purpose of knowing how much a human can endure and weak spots and biological review on all levels, field test of the worst imaginable were conducted on human.
Experiments included;
Freezing a human to death
burning a human to death
Skinning a human to death
breaking bones to death
starve to death
partial amputations, partial freezing with liquid nitrogen on certain bodyparts, partial burning, smoke inhalation of various chemicals, sleep deprivation.
Feeding humans to animals (Lions, Bears, apes etc)
Drowning people
Stretching limb right off.
Putting insects inside your body surgically
You name it, this guy did it. This is the king of all who have no remorse, the devil himself.
Then there is Pol Pot, took out 20% of Cambodia, another heartless who was obsessed with ethnic cleansing. Murder and Famine were the norm for him but often people died from over working 100 hours of labor per weeks. This guy is know for certain massacre of several hundred people where they were taken to dig their own grave and then where beaten with bars to death. Some got buried alive and others where shared even a more brutal and gruesome death.
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Hideki Tojo (Responsible for 5,000,000 deaths) want to talk about ruthless, no one beats this man, not Hitler not Stalin, No one. This guy had a facility that would experiment with the most extreme torture methods possible and conducted experiences with weapons, chemicals and the works. Over a quarter million people went through that facility.
all experiments were for purpose of knowing how much a human can endure and weak spots and biological review on all levels, field test of the worst imaginable were conducted on human.
Experiments included;
Freezing a human to death
burning a human to death
Skinning a human to death
breaking bones to death
starve to death
partial amputations, partial freezing with liquid nitrogen on certain bodyparts, partial burning, smoke inhalation of various chemicals, sleep deprivation.
Feeding humans to animals (Lions, Bears, apes etc)
Drowning people
Stretching limb right off.
Putting insects inside your body surgically
You name it, this guy did it. This is the king of all who have no remorse, the devil himself.
Yes, they even did a movie about this and the facility.
Men Behind The Sun
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kRuD6zV4Fqs/TTY6r8e88WI/AAAAAAAAG18/apQuTTxYNPU/s1600/ishot-2873.jpg)
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every nation on planet has done this. This is standard protocol for warfare-+ but to add to your list; Mao Tse tung confiscated the food Chinese aboriginal tribes people resulting in 30 million (some say way more) deaths by famine.
Hideki Tojo (Responsible for 5,000,000 deaths) want to talk about ruthless, no one beats this man, not Hitler not Stalin, No one. This guy had a facility that would experiment with the most extreme torture methods possible and conducted experiences with weapons, chemicals and the works. Over a quarter million people went through that facility.
all experiments were for purpose of knowing how much a human can endure and weak spots and biological review on all levels, field test of the worst imaginable were conducted on human.
Experiments included;
Freezing a human to death
burning a human to death
Skinning a human to death
breaking bones to death
starve to death
partial amputations, partial freezing with liquid nitrogen on certain bodyparts, partial burning, smoke inhalation of various chemicals, sleep deprivation.
Feeding humans to animals (Lions, Bears, apes etc)
Drowning people
Stretching limb right off.
Putting insects inside your body surgically
You name it, this guy did it. This is the king of all who have no remorse, the devil himself.
Then there is Pol Pot, took out 20% of Cambodia, another heartless who was obsessed with ethnic cleansing. Murder and Famine were the norm for him but often people died from over working 100 hours of labor per weeks. This guy is know for certain massacre of several hundred people where they were taken to dig their own grave and then where beaten with bars to death. Some got buried alive and others where shared even a more brutal and gruesome death.
Tojo is responsible for Pearl Harbour and drawing the USA to WWII
I did not know of these experiments, only of war crimes.
Did he do this on his own people, on chinese, or prisioners of war ?
Another one was Idi Amin, 100s of 1000s dead
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Tojo is responsible for Pearl Harbour and drawing the USA to WWII
I did not know of these experiments, only of war crimes.
Did he do this on his own people, on chinese, or prisioners of war ?
Unit 731
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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Tojo is responsible for Pearl Harbour and drawing the USA to WWII
I did not know of these experiments, only of war crimes.
Did he do this on his own people, on chinese, or prisioners of war ?
Another one was Idi Amin, 100s of 1000s dead
Both, see above Kwon`s post and look up that movie, very few can get through that movie, just watching it is torturous, truly disturbing, make ``schindlers`` list look like a game of dominoes.
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holocaust was more, uhm, irreversible.
so yeah
Considering the current state of affairs among Nazi holocaust survivors, and those of survivors of the African holocaust, ...not so sure your statement holds up. :-\
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Mass genocide in africa in africa by settlers
The american indians were almost wiped out, then placed in confined areas
The jewish extermination during lenin and stalins day was as bad as hitlers
The crusaders wiped out zillions of muslims if they wouldn't convert (ever wonder where their hatred stems from)
In ghenghis khans day the equivalent of whole countries was wiped out at a time
The romans would kill, enslave, make slaves fight for them, and also toy with them in public entertainment
Shit, there's more!
That went both ways, the Ottoman Turks were not to be fucked with at their peak.
Otherwise, as for the OP's original question, I'd say it depends how you look at it. Blacks, for the most part were bought, so they had real "value" to the owner, and while they were not always treated good, for the most part they were kept alive. The Jews were "free bodies" coming from conquered lands, so the Germans treated them as disposable. So, I guess it comes down to, which is worse, a lifetime of being treated like shit, or a regular life, followed by a horrible last few years. Personally, I'd say the Jews had it worse. As a black, you always had the chance to have good hair/light skin and be a house negro. ;D
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How about heterosexual men having to watch Hugh Grant movies at the torturous and barbaric hand of girlfriends/wives everywhere?
Surely, this crime against humanity hasn't gone unnoticed....
I hope she makes you take in a Celine Dion concert live, AND makes you watch Fried Green Tomatoes as well. >:(
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Sounds like a great movie to get stoned before watching.
Both, see above Kwon`s post and look up that movie, very few can get through that movie, just watching it is torturous, truly disturbing, make ``schindlers`` list look like a game of dominoes.
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How many jews profited by selling out their fellow jews in WW2?
How many blacks profited by selling out their fellow blacks during the slave trade?
Those are the real questions that are never brought up in these subjects.
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How many jews profited by selling out their fellow jews in WW2?
How many blacks profited by selling out their fellow blacks during the slave trade?
Those are the real questions that are never brought up in these subjects.
A lot of tribes in Africa made out handsomely selling their brothers and sisters to Arabs and Europeans.
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How many jews profited by selling out their fellow jews in WW2?
How many blacks profited by selling out their fellow blacks during the slave trade?
Those are the real questions that are never brought up in these subjects.
Maybe that's because it pales in comparison to the true horror of the topic.
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I'm a faggott
We know
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Gotta love Liberia.
Freed slaves get start a country. What do they do?
Enslave the rest of the locals under the same model that was used on them in America haha
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How many jews profited by selling out their fellow jews in WW2?
How many blacks profited by selling out their fellow blacks during the slave trade?
Those are the real questions that are never brought up in these subjects.
Well, as you and I know, the african slave trade was started by africans.
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Well, as you and I know, the african slave trade was started by africans.
They were the one's that sold them to the slavers.
They sold their own people into slavery.
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They were the one's that sold them to the slavers.
They sold their own people into slavery.
Yes, deeply disturbing. Clearly they were a culture of evil. But it is so much easier to hate the white man (some miniscule percentage of whom owned slaves) than to confront the truth about your own race.
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Gotta love Liberia.
Freed slaves get start a country. What do they do?
Enslave the rest of the locals under the same model that was used on them in America haha
Jesus.