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Female bodybuilders describe widespread sexual exploitation
By DESMOND BUTLER, AMY BRITTAIN AND ALICE LI
Officials of bodybuilding’s two premier federations have been sexually exploiting female athletes for decades — pressuring them to pose for nude photographs, posting those photos to soft-core pornography sites, and, at times, manipulating contest results in favor of cooperative competitors, a Washington Post investigation has found.
For more than 15 years, J.M. Manion, whose father, Jim, has been running amateur and professional bodybuilding contests for decades, shot the photos and operated a network of paid soft-core pornography websites that at one point advertised “over 30,000 images” of competitors in the sport. A Post review of website archives identified more than 200 female athletes in photos ranging from casual bikini shots to graphic, sexual images, including those of nude women together in beds, bathtubs and showers. One of J.M.'s sites, Fitness Divas, bluntly stated: “Your Favorite Fitness Athletes …Naked!”
Jenn Gates, who won the figure category at the prestigious Olympia contest in 2008, graced the covers of fitness magazines and earned enough sponsorship money to quit her nursing job. Her manager, J.M., asked her to take off her bikini top and bottom for photos. Gates refused, and was surprised recently to learn from Post reporters that her swimsuit photos had been featured alongside nude female competitors on one of J.M.’s pornography sites.
“I never consented to having my pictures put on a soft-porn site,” Gates said during an interview at her home in Indianapolis. Less than three years after winning the Olympia, Gates gave up the sport in disgust — and warns young women to stay away from the contests.
Interviews with dozens of competitors, judges, officials and others connected to the sport reveal the systematic exploitation of female athletes often rendered vulnerable by extreme dieting and workouts, lack of financial stability and a drive to win. The Post found that some women believed their scores depended on their willingness to pose for sexual photos or to please the sport’s leading judges, promoters and managers, almost all of whom are male.
J.M. did not respond to questions The Post emailed him about the allegations. Rob Rosetti, a prominent trainer who sometimes attended the photo shoots for J.M.’s pornography websites, said the women had consented.
“In the very few photo shoots I was asked to attend, I witnessed no athlete being forced, pressured, persuaded, intimidated or coerced into posing nude by J.M. or any other individual assisting in the photo shoot,” Rosetti texted The Post.
“It was done completely on the athlete’s own free will,” he said.
Mandy Henderson, a former sheriff’s deputy in Santa Clara County, Calif., detailed in an interview how the pressure was exerted on women. She agreed to nude photography with the expectation of winning a pro card, which allows athletes to move from amateur competitions to the professional league. A pro card can mean more money, sponsorships, and the chance to compete in the headlining competitions: the Arnold Classic and the Olympia.
At an amateur contest in 2009, she placed fourth and was surprised that it was taking so long for her to earn her pro card. When she asked why, she said, a prominent judge told her: “Because you didn’t come to my room last night.”
Another athlete, who was at a shoot attended by Rosetti, described a “humiliating” experience in which J.M. told her to undress and enter a shower with two naked women to pose for photographs — even though she’d previously told Rosetti she didn’t want to pose nude, said the woman, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. “I cannot tell you how terrible of an experience it was.”
Aly Garcia, a bikini competitor, said she refused to do the nude photos, and had to fend off advances from judges and promoters as gently as she could to keep her career alive. She abandoned the sport in 2017 when she concluded that she would never get a top win if she didn’t have sex with the power brokers. “This is the only way I’m going to hit my goal?” she thought. “Guess I’m not going to hit my goal.”
The leading amateur and professional federations are run by Jim Manion, J.M.’s father, a 78-year-old ex-bodybuilder, from his offices in Pittsburgh. Jim Manion presides over the amateur National Physique Committee (NPC) and the International Federation of Bodybuilding and Fitness Pro League, known as the IFBB Pro League.
In response to a detailed query from The Post sent to Jim Manion, the two organizations issued a statement through Hammond Strategies, a crisis communications firm, but did not respond directly to any of the questions.
“As part of our efforts to grow the sport we have expanded events and opportunities for all competitors, grown prize purses for female athletes, and improved communications for our competitors to raise any concerns they may have with an event or their experience,” the statement said. “We address all concerns raised with the utmost care, concern, and timeliness.”
The statement said that more than half of registered competitors are women and that many shows feature all-female judging panels.
At bodybuilding’s biggest competitions, J.M. can be found front and center, his baseball cap worn backward as he snaps pictures of muscled competitors onstage. J.M. was a teenager when his father took the helm of bodybuilding’s newly created amateur organization. In 1977, with the release of the film “Pumping Iron,” starring Schwarzenegger, bodybuilding exploded onto the public consciousness and spawned a fitness boom in the 1980s.
Bodybuilding is both a sport and an art form. Athletes sculpt their bodies through weight training and diet to compete in contests where they are judged on their muscular development after performing poses onstage. The sport has multiple categories based on weight classes and the degree of musculature, ranging from the most muscled (bodybuilding) to the lesser-built categories of figure and bikini. The latter two are for female athletes only.
Prize money is awarded to the top five winners in the pro contests. At the top of the game is the Olympia, with Mr. Olympia claiming a reported $675,000 last year, and Ms. Olympia just $60,000. Most of the hundreds of contests each year pay far less.
J.M., who runs the sport’s online news operation, also oversaw a management company that directed the careers of the top female competitors, including Gates. He served as a gateway to endorsement deals, magazine covers and other financially promising opportunities and could shut down income potential or competitive success if an athlete crossed him, numerous competitors said.
Two former officials told The Post that they witnessed other officials either inflating scorecards in favor of competitors managed by J.M. or trying to.
Steve O’Brien, who served as a judge and district chairman of the NPC for Northern California, recounted two incidents when he said John Tuman, a judge, changed scores, once after O’Brien observed him discussing the placings with Jim and J.M. Manion.
Jim Rockell, who was once the head judge of the Olympia and a close associate of Jim Manion’s before a falling out, said that Tuman once chided him at an event about his placings and suggested he make changes.
“Tuman leans over to me and says, ‘You know that girl that you got in fourth or fifth place? That’s one of J.M.’s girls,’ ” Rockell recalled. He said he did not change his scores.
O’Brien and Rockell said that some years ago, Tuman was suspended as a judge after his then-fiancee provided evidence that Tuman had affairs with contestants while he was judging. Several athletes also complained to officials about Tuman’s behavior, they said. Months later, Jim Manion called O’Brien to discuss reinstating Tuman, which O’Brien resisted. But Manion overruled him.
“Jim’s remedy was: ‘I’m not going have him judge women,” O’Brien said. “Well, that didn’t last very long.”
Soon, Tuman was back to judging all kinds of contests across the country, O’Brien said….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/women-bodybuilding-ifbb-pro-porn/
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And so it goes.
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The Fat Son
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I’m shocked that bodybuilding is sexualized. I thought it was about pageantry and honor.
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I’m shocked that bodybuilding is sexualized. I thought it was about pageantry and honor.
Finally the women get a dose of what the men have been subject to all these years… but the men don’t seem to be complaining ;D
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Is it exploitation if there is free will?
With the amount of hormone they used they ought to be thinking about sex nonstop.
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Finally the women get a dose of what the men have been subject to all these years… but the men don’t seem to be complaining ;D
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Finally the women get a dose of what the men have been subject to all these years… but the men don’t seem to be complaining ;D
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Women get older and uglier faster and turn very bitter. They look back with regret. We look back as, “Paying our dues.”
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I have changed my mind. I fully support her pursuit of justice
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All the women that complained about Wienstien said he propositioned them and they refused to do what he asked and yet all got the parts in the movies anyway.
Make your mind up girls, if you got the part you sucked the dick.
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Denise Masino was the ultimate for me back in the day
and Trish stratus when she was all in muscleMag all the time but she wasn't a bodybuilder really
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how do you think Jaime Eason got famous?
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Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/women-bodybuilding-ifbb-pro-porn/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f004
Female bodybuilders describe widespread sexual exploitation - Officials pressured athletes to pose for nude photographs, posted those photos to soft-core pornography sites, and, at times, manipulated contest results in favor of cooperative competitors, a Post investigation has found.
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Not surprised in the slightest bit.
Male IFBB pros have gone through a lot over the years (I've heard some stories of private nude posing, nude wrestling, nude posing while covered in baby powder head to toe etc). The fact that the women have gone through similar as well doesn't surprise me.
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Is it exploitation if there is free will?
Yes. Women are to be completely held accountable for their actions and choices.
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Will reserve judgment until DVDs of said exploitation are made available.
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Hmmmm...Call a spade a spade and a jack just that, but call a woman a whore and you'll wish you'd called her a "lady".
In truth, the entire "#MeToo" movement is naught but about stealing money.
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Will reserve judgment until DVDs of said exploitation are made available.
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how do you think Jaime Eason got famous?
She was very pretty, guessing not so much anymore.
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(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/de/8c/c4/de8cc4f1d79405a5935b52252573923b--fitness-exercises-workout-fitness.jpg)
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I have changed my mind. I fully support her pursuit of justice
damn who’s that?
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I for one am completely shocked and appalled !! ;D
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Peel Bitches!!!!
(https://scontent-lga3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/306947998_625697318918906_628136272828401415_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=09cbfe&_nc_ohc=g6F27Uqq8XIAX_pFJHd&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-2.xx&oh=00_AT8fBHI0wytzhg6VS9KW-8zT9Kiw8akGfLv9ILz-kTGh1A&oe=635D35B2).
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Ron?
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There's 3 generations of Manions now in bodybuilding promotion and judging -
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/manion-family-allegations.jpg).
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There's 3 generations of Manions now in bodybuilding promotion and judging -
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/manion-family-allegations.jpg).
The ultimate for-profit non-profit, where assets are passed along to the family instead of the public or another non-profit.
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There's 3 generations of Manions now in bodybuilding promotion and judging -
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/manion-family-allegations.jpg).
I wouldn’t let these fuckers within a mile of unattended children.
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First of all, this article seems to be a ploy of someone hell bent on going after JM, and features three women, of which I knew all three. I am a little surprised on them going after JM. I have been with JM on probably over 100+ photo shoots, from being a videographer and extra photographer, and never once did I ever hear JM ever tell anyone to do anything like removing clothes. We shot a lot of sexy competitors, but telling them to get 'naked', no. Each model chose, at least when I was there, on what they wanted to do, and if they wanted to. Did they were cool swimsuits - sure. Were the models flirty - oh yes. But JM is married, and his wife always made sure that all was legit. From the model release in which states pictures can go everywhere, to afterwards while going thru pictures. Like Only Fans now, there were sites in which the models fully were aware and had their own choices on what they wanted to do. Do models have regrets. Sure, years afterwards when they want to change what they did earlier.
As for Tyler Manion, he is now the VP. Completely stand up guy. Always remembers peoples names, always respectful.
As for the other people in the article, have not spent a lot of time with them, so not going into that.
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Denise Masino was the ultimate for me back in the day
and Trish stratus when she was all in muscleMag all the time but she wasn't a bodybuilder really
Masino was fap material.
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First of all, this article seems to be a ploy of someone hell bent on going after JM, and features three women, of which I knew all three. I am a little surprised on them going after JM. I have been with JM on probably over 100+ photo shoots, from being a videographer and extra photographer, and never once did I ever hear JM ever tell anyone to do anything like removing clothes. We shot a lot of sexy competitors, but telling them to get 'naked', no. Each model chose, at least when I was there, on what they wanted to do, and if they wanted to. Did they were cool swimsuits - sure. Were the models flirty - oh yes. But JM is married, and his wife always made sure that all was legit. From the model release in which states pictures can go everywhere, to afterwards while going thru pictures. Like Only Fans now, there were sites in which the models fully were aware and had their own choices on what they wanted to do. Do models have regrets. Sure, years afterwards when they want to change what they did earlier.
As for Tyler Manion, he is now the VP. Completely stand up guy. Always remembers peoples names, always respectful.
As for the other people in the article, have not spent a lot of time with them, so not going into that.
and gets his guys to go backstage at 2bro shows trying to extort money out of gullible competitors to enter multiple classes of which they have no chance of winning at £75 a throw
the whole organisation is corrupt as fuck
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damn who’s that?
The accuser of said sexual accusations
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There's 3 generations of Manions now in bodybuilding promotion and judging -
(https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/manion-family-allegations.jpg).
No nepotism at all. Only meritocracy here
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She was very pretty, guessing not so much anymore.
(https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/lH7dy66DZD8yQ3qX_eaUmdE8Qmw/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/09/24/867/n/24155406/4762261bbf8a76f0_18/i/Jamie-Eason-Family-Photo-Shoot.jpg)
she must have something wrong with her eyes.
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Peel Bitches!!!!
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#PeelToo will soon be trending
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Masino was fap material.
Denise Masino was a first rate businesswoman. She knew what her target audience wanted, and she created a business from that. From the magazine, to the expos, she was in charge. I probably still have 30-40 of her magazines in the 3000+ collection of fitness and bodybuilding magazines from the past.
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Men sex-and-broads obsessed?
Shocking.
This shit is a giant Who Gives a Fuck Burger.
Unless a man or woman is physically forced, or threatened, it’s not worth even talking about.
If you engage in activities you don’t want to, because you want something in return, that’s entirely on you.
It is transactional.
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;D
Women get older and uglier faster and turn very bitter. They look back with regret. We look back as, “Paying our dues.”
Sometimes you get the elevator, sometimes you get the shaft
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she must have something wrong with her eyes.
Just to be clear Jaime is the one on the left if anyone is wondering
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Interview of one of the women starts at 2:30.
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Interview of one of the women starts at 2:30.
When did they make the medals so obnoxiously big? Looks stupid and blocks potential nip slips
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When did they make the medals so obnoxiously big? Looks stupid and blocks potential nip slips
Even Eric B and Rakim were forced to lean back -
(https://fitnessvolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Andrea-Shaw--750x938.jpg)(https://i.scdn.co/image/b731704e1ebed00801a0f8daa3323881680cf36f).
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Yahoo News picked it up with a 12 minute video from the Washington Post
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/female-bodybuilders-describe-widespread-sexual-164722541.html
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I'm not sure why people act like this is news.
People have been saying these things for decades.
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We have competitions (i.e. figure, bikini, and wellness) where women literally bend over and stick out their behinds in front of the judges. GEE!! I wonder why there are allegations of "sexual exploitation"?
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Interview of one of the women starts at 2:30.
3:45ish, they're having Ron "Opie Taylor" Howard make a film about how the IFBB isn't Mayberry. Interesting, a new guard looking to swoop in and unseat the old guys perhaps? An article or two is easily forgotten, but they seem to really be getting pressed by someone/something.
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Is any Getbigger really surprised about this? It's been an open secret about signing with J.M. to be an it girl for years. Considering today's culture, it was inevitable that these women eventually stood up for themselves.
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Masino was fap material.
As was Melissa Dettwiller!
She used to have a long thread here.
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A woman has to have mental issues to engage into this lovely sport in the first place. Most are complete psychos anyway
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Doesn't this picture speak volumes? ;D
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https://mol.im/a/11353265
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11353265/Dozens-female-bodybuilders-sexually-exploited-officials-two-organizations.html
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“Reached last week by The Post, Tuman said, “I don’t know what you are talking about. I’m a married man. I’m a family man. I have no idea what you are talking about.”
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Doesn't this picture speak volumes? ;D
Lmao!
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“Just put your face….you know hug him…kinda sexy.”
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One of the websites Manion owned, it's down now, but the internet remembers -
https://web.archive.org/web/20080308064957/http://www.fitnessdivas.com/ .
https://web.archive.org/web/20130828141657/http://www.fitnessdivas.com/ .
https://web.archive.org/web/20111119015432/http://www.fitnessdivas.com/ .
https://web.archive.org/web/20140519095312/http://www.fitnessdivas.com/ .
Horny boy.
Also don't forget Iron Sirens, the only comic for schomes -
https://www.facebook.com/IronSirensComicBooks/ .
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Nicole Bass and Bev Francis was often exploited :-X
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If the Washington Post really wanted to dig into this story and reveal the corrupt sham that it is, they would investigate the online IRS 990 Form tax filings the NPC is required to file as an “Organization Exempt From Income Tax.
In addition to the harassment, sexual abuse, drugs, corruption etc., the NPC acts as a personal ATM for the Manion family.
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First of all, this article seems to be a ploy of someone hell bent on going after JM, and features three women, of which I knew all three. I am a little surprised on them going after JM. I have been with JM on probably over 100+ photo shoots, from being a videographer and extra photographer, and never once did I ever hear JM ever tell anyone to do anything like removing clothes. We shot a lot of sexy competitors, but telling them to get 'naked', no. Each model chose, at least when I was there, on what they wanted to do, and if they wanted to. Did they were cool swimsuits - sure. Were the models flirty - oh yes. But JM is married, and his wife always made sure that all was legit. From the model release in which states pictures can go everywhere, to afterwards while going thru pictures. Like Only Fans now, there were sites in which the models fully were aware and had their own choices on what they wanted to do. Do models have regrets. Sure, years afterwards when they want to change what they did earlier.
As for Tyler Manion, he is now the VP. Completely stand up guy. Always remembers peoples names, always respectful.
As for the other people in the article, have not spent a lot of time with them, so not going into that.
Phylicia Rashad famously stuck up for bill cosby, she claimed she was around him for hundreds and hours and didn't see any predatory behavior. so...
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Phylicia Rashad famously stuck up for bill cosby, she claimed she was around him for hundreds and hours and didn't see any predatory behavior. so...
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The Manion family legit?
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Phylicia Rashad famously stuck up for bill cosby, she claimed she was around him for hundreds and hours and didn't see any predatory behavior. so...it proves he wasnt attracted to manly females.
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Phylicia Rashad famously stuck up for bill cosby, she claimed she was around him for hundreds and hours and didn't see any predatory behavior. so...
I know, right? So because it didn’t happen in front of Ron then it didn’t happen? What kind of logic is that? Which is more likely:
1) Ron didn’t see evidence of it and these women made the whole thing up out of thin air… or
2) JM and the gold old boys behaved like kids in the candy store and used their positions of power to prey on the these women for years?
Sure, some women were willing to trade sexual favors for titles… which likely encouraged the pay-to-play dynamic, but to try to dismiss this because you didn’t personally see it only makes you look like a fool. ::)
Wasn’t Harvey Weinstein also a “family man” who denied all wrong doing? So was Cosby. Guess what: dozens of women don’t make up the same story out of thin air. In this case we literally have web archives of the sites the photos were posted on.
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I know, right? So because it didn’t happen in front of Ron then it didn’t happen? What kind of logic is that? Which is more likely:
1) Ron didn’t see evidence of it and these women made the whole thing up out of thin air… or
2) JM and the gold old boys behaved like kids in the candy store and used their positions of power to prey on the these women for years?
Sure, some women were willing to trade sexual favors for titles… which likely encouraged the pay-to-play dynamic, but to try to dismiss this because you didn’t personally see it only makes you look like a fool. ::)
Wasn’t Harvey Weinstein also a “family man” who denied all wrong doing? So was Cosby. Guess what: dozens of women don’t make up the same story out of thin air. In this case we literally have web archives of the sites the photos were posted on.
There is limited information that proves Shizzo traded sexual favors with the Manion men for low-level titles.
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Would be fun to see male bodybuilders #metoo also regarding this subject. My guess is that the women "victim" narrative would lose it's traction.
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Kai Greene couldnt win an Olympia even with his sordid and seedy background.
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Would be fun to see male bodybuilders #metoo also regarding this subject. My guess is that the women "victim" narrative would lose it's traction.
not really, people stuck up for terry crews when he talked about being fondled
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Would be fun to see male bodybuilders #metoo also regarding this subject. My guess is that the women "victim" narrative would lose it's traction.
No need to bring Mike Arvilla into this…
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not really, people stuck up for terry crews when he talked about being fondled
Yep. I recall that.
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Bending over in front of judges was their first hint sexploitation was going on...
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGWMrDFh/NPC-Bikini-Overall-Comparison-Back-Pose.jpg)
"Help! I'm being exploited"
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDSnpyvb/Megan-Petty-Bikini-Back-Pose.jpg)
"Arnold's forcing us to pole dance."
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydTyJxSZ/maxresdefault-1.jpg)
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Denise Masino was the ultimate for me back in the day
and Trish stratus when she was all in muscleMag all the time but she wasn't a bodybuilder really
Denise is a goddess and forever in my spank bank
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Bending over in front of judges was their first hint sexploitation was going on...
(https://i.postimg.cc/MGWMrDFh/NPC-Bikini-Overall-Comparison-Back-Pose.jpg)
"Help! I'm being exploited"
(https://i.postimg.cc/zDSnpyvb/Megan-Petty-Bikini-Back-Pose.jpg)
"Arnold's forcing us to pole dance."
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydTyJxSZ/maxresdefault-1.jpg)
no one's complaining about that,
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A woman doesn’t know how to say NO. Dirty whores, fuck em!!
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https://now.org/media-center/press-release/now-demands-swift-justice-for-female-bodybuilders/ (https://now.org/media-center/press-release/now-demands-swift-justice-for-female-bodybuilders/)
Statement by NOW President Christian F. Nunes
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today’s Washington Post investigation of widespread sexual exploitation of female bodybuilders should send shock waves through professional athletics.
The graphic stories of how athletes were pressured to pose for nude photographs that were posted to soft-core pornography sites—often, following pressure to pose in order to please prominent judges, promoters and managers—reveal a systemic culture of exploitation, abuse, and intimidation.
Women who want to move from amateur competitions to the pro level are pressured to pose nude, promised income from the photos that is never delivered, and subjected to judges and promoters demanding private visits to their hotel rooms.
The Post article spotlights two bodybuilding federations and a related network of paid websites, but NOW members know that the sexual exploitation of female athletes goes beyond the sport of bodybuilding. Sexual abuse and the economics of misogyny are rampant in professional sports. NOW demands that the justice system open an investigation of its own into this culture, bring wrongdoers to court, and make them pay.
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NOW demands that the justice system open an investigation of its own into this culture, bring wrongdoers to court, and make them pay.
Oh boy... :o
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oh shit, this may become a thing.
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Denise is a goddess and forever in my spank bank
Nice of you to join us for a change.
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https://now.org/media-center/press-release/now-demands-swift-justice-for-female-bodybuilders/ (https://now.org/media-center/press-release/now-demands-swift-justice-for-female-bodybuilders/)
Statement by NOW President Christian F. Nunes
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today’s Washington Post investigation of widespread sexual exploitation of female bodybuilders should send shock waves through professional athletics.
The graphic stories of how athletes were pressured to pose for nude photographs that were posted to soft-core pornography sites—often, following pressure to pose in order to please prominent judges, promoters and managers—reveal a systemic culture of exploitation, abuse, and intimidation.
Women who want to move from amateur competitions to the pro level are pressured to pose nude, promised income from the photos that is never delivered, and subjected to judges and promoters demanding private visits to their hotel rooms.
The Post article spotlights two bodybuilding federations and a related network of paid websites, but NOW members know that the sexual exploitation of female athletes goes beyond the sport of bodybuilding. Sexual abuse and the economics of misogyny are rampant in professional sports. NOW demands that the justice system open an investigation of its own into this culture, bring wrongdoers to court, and make them pay.
N.O.W. demands JustUs. Fuck those fugly bitches to Hades. They want money. These feMale bodybuilders are drug-bums and live for the chance to take the wallets of pathetic schmoes and their fellow dykes. They do it for the money. They are just as lazy as the sweaty menz.
And that creature, Denise Masino? Gross. Pancake tits and a shenis like a sandcrab with a voice to match. F U G L Y.
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First of all, this article seems to be a ploy of someone hell bent on going after JM, and features three women, of which I knew all three. I am a little surprised on them going after JM. I have been with JM on probably over 100+ photo shoots, from being a videographer and extra photographer, and never once did I ever hear JM ever tell anyone to do anything like removing clothes. We shot a lot of sexy competitors, but telling them to get 'naked', no. Each model chose, at least when I was there, on what they wanted to do, and if they wanted to. Did they were cool swimsuits - sure. Were the models flirty - oh yes. But JM is married, and his wife always made sure that all was legit. From the model release in which states pictures can go everywhere, to afterwards while going thru pictures. Like Only Fans now, there were sites in which the models fully were aware and had their own choices on what they wanted to do. Do models have regrets. Sure, years afterwards when they want to change what they did earlier.
As for Tyler Manion, he is now the VP. Completely stand up guy. Always remembers peoples names, always respectful.
As for the other people in the article, have not spent a lot of time with them, so not going into that.
Yes, because you never saw it happen, therefore it never happened.
Superb logic.
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Yes, because you never saw it happen, therefore it never happened.
Superb logic.
I'm sure he's known about these things and doesn't want to comment on them.
I was only involved in BBing at a very low level in the NPC and didn't know any of the big-name people. And it was a wide-open fact that these things have been real for men and women for decades.
In Ron's position, it's best to play stupid, just like everyone else will until the facts come out.
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Yes, because you never saw it happen, therefore it never happened.
Superb logic.
Epistemological solipsism.
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Yes, because you never saw it happen, therefore it never happened.
Superb logic.
Ron was too busy to notice, he was always looking for the nearest Chinese Buffett for orange chicken ;D
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Epistemological solipsism.
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Well done, brother! I am impressed but seeing as it is you, excellence is to be expected. :)
Superb!
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Well done, brother! I am impressed but seeing as it is you, excellence is to be expected. :)
Superb!
I see a lot of smart men in this thread. I have to contribute more than just humor.
I hope you've been feeling well, happy to have you back!
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I'm sure he's known about these things and doesn't want to comment on them.
I was only involved in BBing at a very low level in the NPC and didn't know any of the big-name people. And it was a wide-open fact that these things have been real for men and women for decades.
In Ron's position, it's best to play stupid, just like everyone else will until the facts come out.
Exactly.
I cannot say if it did happen or did not happen. I’ll wait to see what transpires and go from there.
But Ron makes his living schmoeing so it makes sense why he would play ignorant.
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These women know and knew, exactly what they are doing and are emboldened by the Hollyweird Ho's that have gone after those pervert producers et al, in Hollyweird. Good luck but they are risking having all the porn evidence from decades gone by brought up to show that this is just the way lazy, worthless, drug-addicted, mostly retarded men and more than a few lazy women make a disgusting "living".
The Schmoe 'n' Tell is gonna be Hell. Fuck 'em to Hades.
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It looks like these women competed over 10 years ago. Not condoning any of this behavior, but here is a video explaining who is behind this and why it is coming out now.
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No wonder all these women are from 10 years ago. Desmond Butler met up with this guy Wayne at his fathers funeral. It looks like Desmond is going to keep on putting out more stories.
Desmond Butler said "The conversations at a time of loss brought me back to my earliest days with my father and the bodybuilding giants. At the church, an old friend of my dad’s stopped me. It was Wayne DeMilia, who had run a professional bodybuilding federation years ago and had often been my father’s guide to the bodybuilding underground. “This is not the time to talk about this, but I want to tell you about a possible investigation,” he said. In a meeting weeks later, he laid out alarming stories of recent abuses. Since then, in dozens of interviews with some of the most knowledgeable people in the sport, my Washington Post colleagues and I have uncovered disturbing charges about the top bodybuilding federations in the world — and the exploitation of athletes"
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Bodybuilding, like boxing, has always attracted marginal people and therefore we get what we deserve. The IFBB was always a business that pretended to be a federation for bodybuilders. Those in control recruited and rewarded loyal individuals who more or less held positions for a lifetime. Eg., Paul Graham in Australia. No elections, no accountability. There are other organizations for sure but bodybuilders and bikini women well know what to do re succeeding. Look at the so-called pro cards. Perfect vehicle to control people like sheep.
Let me tell you a story related to me by Ray Mentzer when he lived at our place in Sydney. He said for the Mr America contest back in the day they had judges meetings in two different hotels. At one of the meetings whoever Joe Weider brought to the meeting would win the competition. Ray told me Joe brought him to one of those meetings and he won the Mr America that year. Ray never suspected that his success was due to Joe Weider! If what Ray said was true why have meetings in two different hotels!
Long ago before the IFBB dominated bodybuilding the AAU Mr America was the biggest contest in America. What evolved in the late fifties and sixties was an interview component where personality and character were assessed as part of the contest. Imagine how many good bodybuilders missed out winning in those days because of that requirement? Guys like Harold Poole and Larry Scott never won the AAU Mr America. So many of the winners were not the best bodybuilders and this gave the IFBB an opportunity to capture muscle heads who could win their shows. As Bob Hoffman got senile Joe and Ben took over and the rest is history.
That is where Jim Manion entered and eventually took over bodybuilding contests in the US. He has been there for a long time now.
About judging. Two questions. Who picks the judges and what are the rules? Accountability and transparency has evaporated. In the past the judges could nominate who they wanted to see in the call outs. They put the lists in a hat and drew out each one randomly. Compare that to how the head judge can call out the first group. Whoever he calls out are the top three. If judges deviate from this they are no longer called to judge. It is all one happy men's club. By the way, the IFBB judging system isn't the best one. NABBA has a much better system. Ben wanted bodybuilding to be part of the Olympic Games so devised a judging system having points and rounds. Of course he included a 'pose down' where errant judges could correct their scores!
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No wonder all these women are from 10 years ago. Desmond Butler met up with this guy Wayne at his fathers funeral. It looks like Desmond is going to keep on putting out more stories.
Desmond Butler said "The conversations at a time of loss brought me back to my earliest days with my father and the bodybuilding giants. At the church, an old friend of my dad’s stopped me. It was Wayne DeMilia, who had run a professional bodybuilding federation years ago and had often been my father’s guide to the bodybuilding underground. “This is not the time to talk about this, but I want to tell you about a possible investigation,” he said. In a meeting weeks later, he laid out alarming stories of recent abuses. Since then, in dozens of interviews with some of the most knowledgeable people in the sport, my Washington Post colleagues and I have uncovered disturbing charges about the top bodybuilding federations in the world — and the exploitation of athletes"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2022/bodybuilding-then-and-now/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/c/embed/a93a60ff-b70a-42de-8cf6-7ed5f808f403
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It looks like these women competed over 10 years ago. Not condoning any of this behavior, but here is a video explaining who is behind this and why it is coming out now.
Lol at noted schmoe pleaser Trigili making a big deal about WADA and the IFBB Pro Elite, because -
(https://cdn.dmcl.biz/media/image/140506/o/wadadisclaimer.JPG).
(https://cdn.dmcl.biz/media/image/140507/o/IFBBmanionWADA.JPG).
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All these turds need to stop with the Olympic dreams and clean sport horseshit.
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When will Nick join in to complain that JimmyZ pressured him into letting an old man blow him on video?
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Some 20 years ago one of the top bodybuilders from my country ( a small Balkan country) decided to try his luck in the USA. Well his stay was brief. I didn't know the reason for him leaving the USA until recently. A couple of weeks ago I was talking to a guy at my gym and we stumbled upon this story. The guy told me he had supposedly been offered some sponsorship and help but had had to do sexual favors for schmoes in return. Who would have thought :D
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Don’t feel an iota of sympathy for these girls. None. They’re all adults none of them had a gun pointed at their heads and they all made alert and orientated decisions. This isn’t anything new.
Every industry every work place since the beginning of time it’s been a simple barter - pay to play. A woman’s value is in her looks anyway. It’s all they truly have going for them. Pretty women have been using their looks for survival since the dawn of civilization.
For once I would like to see women held accountable for their actions and a little responsibility for their decisions.
For once I would like to see women accept consequences for their behavior. They want equality but only when it’s convenient for them. They love playing the victim card when they aren’t attracted to the man being accused of foul play.
I have endless stories about my own exploits dealing with these bulimic manic depressant competitor chicks.
The speed in which they will sell their souls and open their legs for an industry favor is astonishing.
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Brutal if true
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I am shocked that a sport that has women wearing thong bikinis and high heels is accused of exploiting these women sexually.
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Don’t feel an iota of sympathy for these girls. None. They’re all adults none of them had a gun pointed at their heads and they all made alert and orientated decisions. This isn’t anything new.
Every industry every work place since the beginning of time it’s been a simple barter - pay to play. A woman’s value is in her looks anyway. It’s all they truly have going for them. Pretty women have been using their looks for survival since the dawn of civilization.
For once I would like to see women held accountable for their actions and a little responsibility for their decisions.
For once I would like to see women accept consequences for their behavior. They want equality but only when it’s convenient for them. They love playing the victim card when they aren’t attracted to the man being accused of foul play.
I have endless stories about my own exploits dealing with these bulimic manic depressant competitor chicks.
The speed in which they will sell their souls and open their legs for an industry favor is astonishing.
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You have to take in intelligence as a factor here. Or the lack of much!
Welcome back, Block!
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I'm sure he's known about these things and doesn't want to comment on them.
I was only involved in BBing at a very low level in the NPC and didn't know any of the big-name people. And it was a wide-open fact that these things have been real for men and women for decades.
In Ron's position, it's best to play stupid, just like everyone else will until the facts come out.
or play stupid because he's an accomplice
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Epistemological solipsism.
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If I don’t know about it… it doesn’t exist. :-X
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Monica Brant was harassed by the Manions way back late 90-s, she refused to sign on their contracts, but on the other hand take Jenny Lynn for example she was endorsed by them and won as many figure shows as she could ....... there was a saying that she was a manion girl .... she slept all the way up ..... and she won so many figure shows but on the contrary Monica finished so many times second or third but clearly she had the best physique. :-*
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Mandy Henderson, a former sheriff’s deputy in Santa Clara County, Calif., detailed in an interview how the pressure was exerted on women. She agreed to nude photography with the expectation of winning a pro card, which allows athletes to move from amateur competitions to the professional league. A pro card can mean more money, sponsorships, and the chance to compete in the headlining competitions: the Arnold Classic and the Olympia.
BRAVO to the girls who gave up competing rather than follow suit.
This other chick I’ve quoted above, however, 1). Is not going to make a very credible witness:
https://www.workcompcentral.com/news/article/id/edf2de5d6be52f808cd09e4d98aadb9b950d2318
and 2). Has been competing all along, still:
https://contests.npcnewsonline.com/contests/2022/ifbb_masters_world_pro/mandy_henderson/index.php
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Monica Brant was harassed by the Manions way back late 90-s, she refused to sign on their contracts, but on the other hand take Jenny Lynn for example she was endorsed by them and won as many figure shows as she could ....... there was a saying that she was a manion girl .... she slept all the way up ..... and she won so many figure shows but on the contrary Monica finished so many times second or third but clearly she had the best physique and morals. :-*
fixed
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Monica Brant was harassed by the Manions way back late 90-s, she refused to sign on their contracts, but on the other hand take Jenny Lynn for example she was endorsed by them and won as many figure shows as she could ....... there was a saying that she was a manion girl .... she slept all the way up ..... and she won so many figure shows but on the contrary Monica finished so many times second or third but clearly she had the best physique. :-*
Jenny knew her role and shut her mouth. Well, opened her mouth as well but only when absolutely necessary. That’s a real woman.
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Don’t feel an iota of sympathy for these girls. None. They’re all adults none of them had a gun pointed at their heads and they all made alert and orientated decisions. This isn’t anything new.
Every industry every work place since the beginning of time it’s been a simple barter - pay to play. A woman’s value is in her looks anyway. It’s all they truly have going for them. Pretty women have been using their looks for survival since the dawn of civilization.
For once I would like to see women held accountable for their actions and a little responsibility for their decisions.
For once I would like to see women accept consequences for their behavior. They want equality but only when it’s convenient for them. They love playing the victim card when they aren’t attracted to the man being accused of foul play.
I have endless stories about my own exploits dealing with these bulimic manic depressant competitor chicks.
The speed in which they will sell their souls and open their legs for an industry favor is astonishing.
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This.
Most of them belong to the streets.
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Monica Brant was harassed by the Manions way back late 90-s, she refused to sign on their contracts, but on the other hand take Jenny Lynn for example she was endorsed by them and won as many figure shows as she could ....... there was a saying that she was a manion girl .... she slept all the way up ..... and she won so many figure shows but on the contrary Monica finished so many times second or third but clearly she had the best physique. :-*
hmmmm....
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LETS FACE IT!
If an individual in my company or one whose business depended on any association within my company .... were to complain in any matter (large or small) about my company ... I would immediately disassociate my company from that individual.
Just a simple matter of good business practices.
It could prove to be of interested to eventually see who will be 'cast out' after this situation settles down.
I do know JM casually and am somewhat surprised by these accusations.
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LETS FACE IT!
If an individual in my company or one whose business depended on any association within my company .... were to complain in any matter (large or small) about my company ... I would immediately disassociate my company from that individual.
Just a simple matter of good business practices.
It could prove to be of interested to eventually see who will be 'cast out' after this situation settles down.
I do know JM casually and am somewhat surprised by these accusations.
Really? I find this hard to believe any normal man would be "surprised" that another man would be sexually motivated to behave inappropriately with a scantily clad woman who appeared to be "available." What planet are you on? It's been estimated that men think about sex every seven seconds. Decades ago when I first time I heard a statistic like that I thought it was exaggeration. I know believe it is true. ::)
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Really? I find this hard to believe any normal man would be "surprised" that another man would be sexually motivated to behave inappropriately with a scantily clad woman who appeared to be "available." What planet are you on? It's been estimated that men think about sex every seven seconds. Decades ago when I first time I heard a statistic like that I thought it was exaggeration. I know believe it is true. ::)
dont be so fucking stupid
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Monica Brant was harassed by the Manions way back late 90-s, she refused to sign on their contracts, but on the other hand take Jenny Lynn for example she was endorsed by them and won as many figure shows as she could ....... there was a saying that she was a manion girl .... she slept all the way up ..... and she won so many figure shows but on the contrary Monica finished so many times second or third but clearly she had the best physique. :-*
Hi Mon, er, I mean The General,
Who did you find creepier, Manion Sr or Manion Jr?
Also, any run ins with Wayne Demilia, Steve Weinberger, or others?
Please feel free to air all grievances, real or even imagined :).
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Hi Mon, er, I mean The General,
Who did you find creepier, Manion Sr or Manion Jr?
Also, any run ins with Wayne Demilia, Steve Weinberger, or others?
Please feel free to air all grievances, real or even imagined :).
According to a well verified whisper among the figure athletes Jenny Lynn was forced to undergo a breast augmentation surgery forced by Manion himself, just check her 2005 & 2006 figure olympia pics. I remember she was forced to do twice the same procedure because her first did not go as planned..... :P
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According to a well verified whisper among the figure athletes Jenny Lynn was forced to undergo a breast augmentation surgery forced by Manion himself, just check her 2005 & 2006 figure olympia pics. I remember she was forced to do twice the same procedure because her first did not go as planned..... :P
Forced?
After a show a lot of competitors go and ask judges and those in charge "what do I need to place better?". It's not unusual for flat chested women to have the idea of implants suggested to them. I wouldn't call that forcing them to do it.
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Some 20 years ago one of the top bodybuilders from my country ( a small Balkan country) decided to try his luck in the USA. Well his stay was brief. I didn't know the reason for him leaving the USA until recently. A couple of weeks ago I was talking to a guy at my gym and we stumbled upon this story. The guy told me he had supposedly been offered some sponsorship and help but had had to do sexual favors for schmoes in return. Who would have thought :D
No need to bring Steve Namat and his jerkoff video into this….
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No need to bring Steve Namat and his jerkoff video into this….
He calls himself “the Hungarian hammer”
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He calls himself “the Hungarian hammer”
Who got the hammer?
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TfATXUL4tp4/UtSHDsCP7EI/AAAAAAAAkkE/IBhG0C-LclE/s640/2.jpg)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f23/11/83/75/22/tm/39820_10.jpg)
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He calls himself “the Hungarian hammer”
Not if you saw the video…
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When they allowed breast implants women's contests were never the same. The standard for bikini gals changed over the decades and women had to present almost fat free bodies. Shame the way women contests have evolved. I honestly don't care to even watch them. It isn't obvious what is being judged so all manner of extra factors can be playing a part. The result is most of those contests are corrupt. What amazes me is why so many still enter them. Anabolic help? Well, they destroyed the Ms Olympia because most men don't fancy women with physiques like that. Beauty contests have always been controversial. Nothing has changed with what we see today.
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When they allowed breast implants women's contests were never the same. The standard for bikini gals changed over the decades and women had to present almost fat free bodies. Shame the way women contests have evolved. I honestly don't care to even watch them. It isn't obvious what is being judged so all manner of extra factors can be playing a part. The result is most of those contests are corrupt. What amazes me is why so many still enter them. Anabolic help? Well, they destroyed the Ms Olympia because most men don't fancy women with physiques like that. Beauty contests have always been controversial. Nothing has changed with what we see today.
this is why i laugh at bodybuilding being a sport, how do you win at this sport? make the judge's dick the hardest
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dont be so fucking stupid
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No need to bring Steve Namat and his jerkoff video into this….
Not him. Not Hungary ;)
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this is why i laugh at bodybuilding being a sport, how do you win at this sport? make the judge's dick the hardest
for men it's easy to have some clear cut defenitions. Like mass, symmetry, definition, balance and presentation.
problem is when you put the same criteria on women they end up looking(and actually being) like men from male hormone use
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for men it's easy to have some clear cut defenitions. Like mass, symmetry, definition, balance and presentation.
problem is when you put the same criteria on women they end up looking(and actually being) like men from male hormone use
There has been no consistency with how women's contests are judged. One solution was to have more divisions where the line between them wasn't that clear. Bev Francis was the best in 1983 in Pumping Iron II, the Women. Ben Weider fixed the contest so she couldn't win. They placed her a pathetic 8th. Her body would be bad for the event they said. Bev never did win the Ms Olympia even when she lost some size and gave a more feminine presentation. Lenda Murray appeared with a more 'acceptable' body.
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When they allowed breast implants women's contests were never the same. The standard for bikini gals changed over the decades and women had to present almost fat free bodies. Shame the way women contests have evolved. I honestly don't care to even watch them. It isn't obvious what is being judged so all manner of extra factors can be playing a part. The result is most of those contests are corrupt. What amazes me is why so many still enter them. Anabolic help? Well, they destroyed the Ms Olympia because most men don't fancy women with physiques like that. Beauty contests have always been controversial. Nothing has changed with what we see today.
A woman with huge knockers and 5% bodyfat looks ridiculous.
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A woman with huge knockers and 5% bodyfat looks ridiculous.
Women with breast implants display the edges when they compete. Looks awful. Those pageants are so fake!
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JustUs ::)
You have to be kidding!
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Why do people have to sexual such a wholesome sport ???
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Why do people have to sexual such a wholesome sport ???
It is truly a sad state of affairs to degrade such a clean cut endeavor.....I`m FUCKING SHOCKED and I feel like I need to take another shower. :D
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It is truly a sad state of affairs to degrade such a clean cut endeavor.....I`m FUCKING SHOCKED and I feel like I need to take another shower. :D
so true :P
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When they allowed breast implants women's contests were never the same. The standard for bikini gals changed over the decades and women had to present almost fat free bodies. Shame the way women contests have evolved. I honestly don't care to even watch them. It isn't obvious what is being judged so all manner of extra factors can be playing a part. The result is most of those contests are corrupt. What amazes me is why so many still enter them. Anabolic help? Well, they destroyed the Ms Olympia because most men don't fancy women with physiques like that. Beauty contests have always been controversial. Nothing has changed with what we see today.
This
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHH
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This scene was always quite troubling to me.
On a completely different note, it does showcase how choreographed Arnold's posing routine seems to have been. Every damn swoop he would take when transitioning from pose to pose seems calculated and rhythmic.
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This scene was always quite troubling to me.
On a completely different note, it does showcase how choreographed Arnold's posing routine seems to have been. Every damn swoop he would take when transitioning from pose to pose seems calculated and rhythmic.
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Arnold is a fake human being
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Why is anyone even pretending that J.M. Manion didn’t sexually exploit women?
You can chisel that in stone.
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Why is anyone even pretending that J.M. Manion didn’t sexually exploit women?
You can chisel that in stone.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. ;D
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Why do people have to sexual such a wholesome sport ???
Great point. Who wouldn't want their daughters to become bodybuilders gyrating on stage in a bikini and high heels?
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But why the surprise?
Getbig has a looong thread about G4P.
Stories about different tier BBs making their mark and money by granting different sexual favours to other men.
If this is true, then, I would automatically think that it is widely rampant in within a sport in heterosexual transgressions?
I remember asking about this from Bay in that thread but don’t remember what he answered.
In a sport where your body is your working tool it is easier to diffrentiate the two.
Who you are vs what are thr tools of your trade.
It is only later that one realizes being just a dirty slut. 🥳🥂💥😊
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And where is Hippo in all this ?
Wasn't he the poster boy for nailing muscle she beast while paving their way to the IFBB stardom ?
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh Rock me Amadeus
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what a MANion.
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what a MANion.
This video was well done.
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Bodybuilding chief dismisses allegations of sexual exploitation
Full Story here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/10/31/reaction-women-bodybuilding-ifbb-npc/
Jim Manion, the leader of bodybuilding’s top federations, assured promoters who pay fees to host bodybuilding competitions that business would proceed as usual in the aftermath of a Washington Post investigation into the sexual exploitation of female contestants. “Rest assured, this will not affect our organizations at all going forward,” the Manions wrote in an email sent to competition promoters from an NPC account and signed by Jim Manion and his grandson, Tyler Manion, vice president of the two Pittsburgh-based federations, the amateur National Physique Committee and the IFBB Pro League. The email, obtained by The Post, said the articles were “unsubstantiated tales from unreliable sources” seeking to discredit the organization.
On Friday, Manion’s lawyer responded to The Post’s story with a two-page memo titled “Defamatory Articles Involving the IFBB Professional League, the National Physique Committee, and Jim Manion.” The letter states some sources cited in The Post’s story “possess a clear animus against my clients due to many prior disputes between the parties and/or the fact they are directly competing or seeking to directly compete against the NPC and/or IFBB Pro League,” wrote Brian H. Simmons, a Pittsburgh attorney with the firm Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney.
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The story is dead from here on out. Nobody cares. These girls pay to get involved with whatever they get involved with.
Have no sympathy for these chicken heads. They love it.
Years ago I used to get blowies from local competitor girls in hopes to get me to interview and showcase them on the first page of the old MW forum. It’s just that simple. They’d hit me up and ask what it takes to get an interview I would play like I’m reluctant, “I’ll see”, pretend I’m too busy so to ensure it they’d meet up with me to train and post workout they would DRAIN. They all get what they want by letting the man who they think can further their status use their bodies as a bartering tool.
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what a MANion.
Its just amazing how the girls have every excuse for stripping off in front of the camera Like it wasn't their
Choice / Decision 🙄 Are they expecting us to feel sorry for them.?
Girls you made your choices & did what you did. Own it.
Stop trying to blame someone else for your decisions & no doubt They're ultimately Wanting $s Compensation.
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^ Correct. It’s about time women get held accountable for their actions. They’re quick to want equal rights but they revert to the “but I’m a girl” when it’s convenient to them. They exploit themselves all day on social media for free. They love it.
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^ Correct. It’s about time women get held accountable for their actions. They’re quick to want equal rights but they revert to the “but I’m a girl” when it’s convenient to them. They exploit themselves all day on social media for free. They love it.
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The only become victims after they are too old to get the attention anymore.
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The story is dead from here on out. Nobody cares. These girls pay to get involved with whatever they get involved with.
Have no sympathy for these chicken heads. They love it.
Years ago I used to get blowies from local competitor girls in hopes to get me to interview and showcase them on the first page of the old MW forum. It’s just that simple. They’d hit me up and ask what it takes to get an interview I would play like I’m reluctant, “I’ll see”, pretend I’m too busy so to ensure it they’d meet up with me to train and post workout they would DRAIN. They all get what they want by letting the man who they think can further their status use their bodies as a bartering tool.
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You're a real piece of shit.
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You're a real piece of shit.
I don't know maybe he is but it's definitely a double edged sword. For each one of those girls willing to give a blow job in exchange for some publicity, there were probably a dozen dudes that would trip over their dicks just to sniff their panties but never got the time of day because they couldn't provide the perks/connections. So who is being used?
Let's pretend like were all adults in charge of our own actions.....
Are you exploiting the willing?
The extreme narcissism (which has nothing to do with actual self-esteem) lends itself to doing anything for status, including exploiting your own looks. Just because you get old one day and your looks dry up doesn't retroactively mean that you're just a victim in all of it.
For every woman that uses her looks to get what she wants there is a simp being used by that woman and giving her what she wants. The exchange isn't always equal and someone is always left feeling used.
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I don't know maybe he is but it's definitely a double edged sword. For each one of those girls willing to give a blow job in exchange for some publicity, there were probably a dozen dudes that would trip over their dicks just to sniff their panties but never got the time of day because they couldn't provide the perks/connections. So who is being used?
Let's pretend like were all adults in charge of our own actions.....
Are you exploiting the willing?
The extreme narcissism (which has nothing to do with actual self-esteem) lends itself to doing anything for status, including exploiting your own looks. Just because you get old one day and your looks dry up doesn't retroactively mean that you're just a victim in all of it.
For every woman that uses her looks to get what she wants there is a simp being used by that woman and giving her what she wants. The exchange isn't always equal and someone is always left feeling used.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The trash basically selling their bodies for thinking they're furthering their 'careers' are no better, to be honest. And yes: there's a plethora of simps and beta bux orbiters whom these girls are also using. The only losers here are the naive simps. I just find these kinds of people repulsive. This Block guy, to me, is the equivalent of the alcoholic peabrain morons you see making toilet humour jokes in pubs Monday through Sunday. Just degenerate, awful makeup of a human being.
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^ Correct. It’s about time women get held accountable for their actions. They’re quick to want equal rights but they revert to the “but I’m a girl” when it’s convenient to them. They exploit themselves all day on social media for free. They love it.
-Block!
Exactly Right - Well said.
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everyone start to listen because this day in age women taking testosterone is "trendy"
they literally had a whole TLC story about that one gal - schmoe on deck and everything - no one cared then ?? now she's dead
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“I said muscle women are awesome.”
Is Mark’s handle here “Herne” ???
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The schmoes are pathetic weaklings and the wimmen are she-beasts.
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So how did the Manion family go from running a Not-For-Profit Tax Exempt Organization to owning the same Organization as a “For Profit” business?
Something doesn’t seem to add up in that situation.
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Mr. Olympia committee responds
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You're a real piece of shit.
A Key that can open many locks is called a Master Key.
A Lock that can be opened by many keys is called a Bad Lock.
Those Jan Tana clad zipper heads are just a bunch of bad locks if you ask me.
-Block!
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No man with normal test levels will deal with or befriend a woman if he has no intention of sleeping with her some day.
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Mr. Olympia committee responds
“Culture and integrity of the sport we love…”
Holy fuck, do you really think anyone would believe that shit?
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everyone start to listen because this day in age women taking testosterone is "trendy"
they literally had a whole TLC story about that one gal - schmoe on deck and everything - no one cared then ?? now she's dead
32 minutes in shes watching an old video of herself and you can see it dawn on her that she has destoyed herself
I remember her winning her British title she was a real cutie
She then linked up with Diana Royle, any old UK bodybuilders will remember Diane
I think it went downhill from there.
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hey gang. hazbin here. couldn't get my old acct open.
I spent time with Monica and Scott in 2007, including before she entered the 2007 Olympia. I remember her saying she wouldn't do well in the contest because she wouldn't sign with manion jr as her agent. she said he was too creepy. and that muscle tech was the sponsor and wanted to sign her. she said their contract would be very controlling and not worth her integrity. she ended up placing 7th, one place higher than the evening top six, because they didn't want the audience to see how she would compare.
not defending the female athletes, just giving a first hand perspective on what I witnessed.
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https://www.evolutionofbodybuilding.net/arnold-classic-and-olympia-respond-to-washington-post-article/
Arnold Classic and Olympia respond to Washington Post article.
In the Washington Post’s latest publication, Jim Manion responded to the claims of sexual exploitation against both his companies, the NPC and IFBB Pro League.
According to the Washington Post, Jim Manion, the leader of bodybuilding’s top federations, assured promoters who pay fees to host bodybuilding competitions that business would proceed as usual. This was his response in the aftermath of a a Washington Post investigation into the sexual exploitation of female contestants.
Last Tuesday’s story in The Post was based on interviews with 20 women who detailed their experiences with J.M. Manion, Jim Manion’s son and the official photographer for the NPC News Online website, including some who said J.M. encouraged them to pose nude. Over a 15-year span, J.M. operated a network of paid soft-core pornography websites that at one point advertised “over 30,000 images” of competitors in the sport, according to archived versions of the websites.
“Rest assured, this will not affect our organizations at all going forward,” the Manions wrote in an email sent to competition promoters from an NPC account and signed by Jim and his grandson, Tyler Manion, vice president of the two Pittsburgh-based federations, the amateur National Physique Committee and the IFBB Pro League. The email, obtained by Evolutionofbodybuilding. net, said the articles were “unsubstantiated tales from unreliable sources” seeking to discredit the organization.
“J.M. MANION WILL NOT BE ATTENDING OUR SHOW”
Olympia LLC, Arnold Classic and show promoters respond to Washington Post Article.
Immediately after the article was published in the Washington Post, a number of NPC and Pro League promoters revealed their concern about these serious allegations.
The situation has reached the point that an official at the Arnold Classic confirmed J.M. Manion will not be attending the event.
According to the Washington Post, Brian Powers, executive director for the Arnold Sports Festival, which includes the Arnold Classic, said his organization has a zero-tolerance policy, and in light of recent reports, “we are developing enhanced measures to strengthen existing safety protocols.”
Another official, who spoke to the Washington Post on the condition of anonymity because that person was not authorized to speak on the record said, “J.M. Manion will not be attending our show.”
In an email to The Post, the Olympia organization, which will hold its premier annual event in December, said it would address “any and all issues that could impact the culture and the integrity of the sport we love. We will continue to update you on these efforts in the weeks to come.”
L. Brent Jones and Richard Siegelman, two prominent NPC and Pro League promoters also revealed how concerned they are about this situation.
L. Brent Jones, who has run shows in Kentucky since 2002, sent a mass email with the subject line, “Why I resigned from the NPC and the IFBB Pro League,” that he resigned Oct. 17, a week before The Post published its investigation, over many of the issues covered in the story. “My reasons are simple,” he wrote in a mass email Thursday. “I am tired of the increased sexualization of the sport and the corruption.”
Approached during a show outside of Baltimore on Saturday, promoter Rich Siegelman called the allegations “disturbing” and said he had spoken to J.M., who was scheduled to be the photographer of the event, and that they had agreed that he would not come.
“These are some serious accusations and allegations, and they need to be taken seriously,” Siegelman said.
Read the full story: Built & Broken: Bodybuilding chief dismisses allegations of sexual exploitation
“ANY AND ALL ISSUES THAT COULD IMPACT THE CULTURE AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE SPORT WE LOVE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO UPDATE YOU ON THESE EFFORTS IN THE WEEKS TO COME.” – OLYMPIA LLC.
Full Press Release from Olympia LLC
All of us here at the Olympia are grateful for the excitement surrounding this year’s event, but we’d like to take a moment to address the recent news items focused on the sport of bodybuilding.
We’ve been following these stories with great interest because one of our top priorities is to ensure the integrity of our event as well as maintaining an environment where everyone feels protected, especially the athletes who walk across our stage. In order to inspire a new generation of fitness enthusiasts it’s vital that we address any and all issues that could impact the culture and the integrity of the sport we love. We will continue to update you on these efforts in the weeks to come.
This press release was published across the entire media network owned by Olympia LLC owner Jake Wood.
Jim and Tyler Manion’s email to show promoters
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Chicks that look like men should be happy to get any attention. ::)
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hey gang. hazbin here. couldn't get my old acct open.
I spent time with Monica and Scott in 2007, including before she entered the 2007 Olympia. I remember her saying she wouldn't do well in the contest because she wouldn't sign with manion jr as her agent. she said he was too creepy. and that muscle tech was the sponsor and wanted to sign her. she said their contract would be very controlling and not worth her integrity. she ended up placing 7th, one place higher than the evening top six, because they didn't want the audience to see how she would compare.
not defending the female athletes, just giving a first hand perspective on what I witnessed.
Integrity? In BB ? Two mutually excluding words in this context
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hey gang. hazbin here. couldn't get my old acct open.
I spent time with Monica and Scott in 2007, including before she entered the 2007 Olympia. I remember her saying she wouldn't do well in the contest because she wouldn't sign with manion jr as her agent. she said he was too creepy. and that muscle tech was the sponsor and wanted to sign her. she said their contract would be very controlling and not worth her integrity. she ended up placing 7th, one place higher than the evening top six, because they didn't want the audience to see how she would compare.
not defending the female athletes, just giving a first hand perspective on what I witnessed.
Great to see you back.
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Great to see you back.
X2
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N.O.W. demands JustUs. Fuck those fugly bitches to Hades. They want money. These feMale bodybuilders are drug-bums and live for the chance to take the wallets of pathetic schmoes and their fellow dykes. They do it for the money. They are just as lazy as the sweaty menz.
And that creature, Denise Masino? Gross. Pancake tits and a shenis like a sandcrab with a voice to match. F U G L Y.
She hasn't been "Pancake" since she was Denise Sanchez in those issues of Florida Muscle News, that they used to have at Bally Total Fitness in Clearwater.
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We have competitions (i.e. figure, bikini, and wellness) where women literally bend over and stick out their behinds in front of the judges. GEE!! I wonder why there are allegations of "sexual exploitation"?
Again, I ask.....
Heck, NPC created the "Wellness" division because they LITERALLY wanted girls with bigger booties and wider hips.
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Again, I ask.....
Heck, NPC created the "Wellness" division because they LITERALLY wanted girls with bigger booties and wider hips.
I don't understand why that's a problem. Some may prefer that.
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Again, I ask.....
Heck, NPC created the "Wellness" division because they LITERALLY wanted girls with bigger booties and wider hips.
Exactly. I mean wtf were they thinking when they got involved in the 'sport' ? The whole point is exploiting your body. It is entirely about appealing your body to every one. Judges, fans, magazines, social media... as a competitor these girls are being purposely obtuse pretending like they were caught completely off guard by the sexualized nature of it. How many of them gladly exploited schmoes?
As far as placings, c'mon. Yeah the judging is supposed to be objective but contracts, relationships, connections have always played a part.
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Exactly. I mean wtf were they thinking when they got involved in the 'sport' ? The whole point is exploiting your body. It is entirely about appealing your body to every one. Judges, fans, magazines, social media... as a competitor these girls are being purposely obtuse pretending like they were caught completely off guard by the sexualized nature of it. How many of them gladly exploited schmoes?
As far as placings, c'mon. Yeah the judging is supposed to be objective but contracts, relationships, connections have always played a part.
It takes retirement and no money to realize they were exploited sexually a decade ago.
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It takes retirement and no money to realize they were exploited sexually a decade ago.
No need to bring Primehomosexual into this….
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hey gang. hazbin here. couldn't get my old acct open.
Welcome back brother!!
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hey gang. hazbin here. couldn't get my old acct open.
I spent time with Monica and Scott in 2007, including before she entered the 2007 Olympia. I remember her saying she wouldn't do well in the contest because she wouldn't sign with manion jr as her agent. she said he was too creepy. and that muscle tech was the sponsor and wanted to sign her. she said their contract would be very controlling and not worth her integrity. she ended up placing 7th, one place higher than the evening top six, because they didn't want the audience to see how she would compare.
not defending the female athletes, just giving a first hand perspective on what I witnessed.
thanks for sharing your experience, by the guess who won that show......... manion's girl jenny lynn :-*
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From FitnessInformant: It appears a Class Action Lawsuit is being brought against the IFBB/NPC with @lisabloomesq leading the charge. They are sending out this letter asking people to come forward.
calaspower@aol.com is John Calascione. Executive Director of IFBB Physique America. the rival organization to the IFBB Pro League.
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Looks like someone wants to take down bodybuilding.
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Looks like someone wants to take down bodybuilding.
We need to do something!
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Looks like someone wants to take down bodybuilding.
take it down?
Its never been up.....
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We need to do something!
Iron warriors need to go to WAR. Enough with this assault on our purple thongs! If you judge us: do we not place? If you prick us: do we not grow? If you touch us: do we not schmoe? ENOUGH. The future of IFBB is at stake, here. And it's my contention that steak is a great off season luxury. SOMEBODY STOP THESE WAPO WHINERS!
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Looks like someone wants to take down bodybuilding.
steroids conspiracy's never took it down,murders,various rape cases,ect,,,same with wrestling just as seedy but it makes $$$$$$ so no it will do nothing.couple of woman will get some money and that will be the end of it.
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Iron warriors need to go to WAR. Enough with this assault on our purple thongs! If you judge us: do we not place? If you prick us: do we not grow? If you touch us: do we not schmoe? ENOUGH. The future of IFBB is at stake, here. And it's my contention that steak is a great off season luxury. SOMEBODY STOP THESE WAPO WHINERS!
THIS!!!!
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steroids conspiracy's never took it down,murders,various rape cases,ect,,,same with wrestling just as seedy but it makes $$$$$$ so no it will do nothing.couple of woman will get some money and that will be the end of it.
eh, losing sponsors would be a big deal. Certainly the ones that sell via social media\influencers can't be associating with a fed known to protect predators
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take it down?
Its never been up.....
I know, right? Take it down from where? The pedestal it’s been on compared to other sports? ::)
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I know, right? Take it down from where? The pedestal it’s been on compared to other sports? ::)
At one time the Mr. Olympia was on CBS and other bodybuilding contests were on ESPN. Now with hundreds of channels you can't find a contest anywhere.
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"Take it down from where? The pedestal it’s been on compared to other sports!"
Thems fight'n words to which I gotta take exception.
And that means I disagree entirely! (Sunset at dawn with pistols drawn?)
Although I will agree that it's not fully respected .... right now due to the efforts of Manion and a couple of fistfull of others .... it's a worldwide configuration with more yearly cash paying members controlled by just a few industrious individuals gathering fistfulls of dollars ...... and rightfully so!
It's larger than 90%+ of today's worldwide sports federations and heading upwards possibly into the stratosphere!
I BET'CHA!!!
More to say, but I gotta feed the dog!
Want more?! Stay tuned!
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We need to do something!
Agreed! We need to stop them. This aint over until WE decide it is!
They'll get my thong only when they pry it from cold dead hands.
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Agreed! We need to stop them. This aint over until WE decide it is!
They'll get my thong only when they pry it from cold dead hands.
;D
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Are you trying to tell me that men in positions of status and power will try to leverage that power to do sex with ladies?
Yeah right, now I've heard everything. lol.
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Are you trying to tell me that men in positions of status and power will try to leverage that power to do sex with ladies?
Yeah right, now I've heard everything. lol.
Exactly, it‘s just another conspiracy theory
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Exactly, it‘s just another conspiracy theory
Russian disinformation.
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Bodybuilding as we know it is getting cancelled by the woke left. Men cant look like men anymore.
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Bodybuilding as we know it is getting cancelled by the woke left. Men cant look like men anymore.
You mean oiled men wearing briefs pulled up their butt- cracks primping on stage in front of gay schmoes?
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Next they'll demand that women should be allowed in room 7 by the ice machine!
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Men have been dominating the sexual exploitation industry of BBing for too long!
Now it's the women's turn.
It's only fair and the right thing to do.
It is the 21st century after all.
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You mean oiled men wearing briefs pulled up their butt- cracks primping on stage in front of gay schmoes?
Exactly. These me too bandwagon jumpers are putting the men's Schmoe community in serious jeopardy, here. WHERE DOES IT END? I, for one, will not stand and allow this poison to seep into the posing rooms/hotel stays where men can truly be men. I've yet to hear of one male performer complaining. I think a line needs to be drawn here before this begins to directly affect this side of the Schmoe community.
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Bodybuilding as we know it is getting cancelled by the woke left. Men cant look like men anymore.
You would think the woke left would embrace women's bodybuilding. You can't tell which gender they are.
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You mean oiled men wearing briefs pulled up their butt- cracks primping on stage in front of gay schmoes?
Then explain men's physique. They wear board shorts; yet supposedly they're even gayer than the male bodybuilders.
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At one time the Mr. Olympia was on CBS and other bodybuilding contests were on ESPN. Now with hundreds of channels you can't find a contest anywhere.
The contests on ESPN were aired MONTHS after they occurred and poorly edited for time.
I didn't see the 1993 Mr. Olympia, which occurred in the fall, until the summer of 1994.
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No man with normal test levels will deal with or befriend a woman if he has no intention of sleeping with her some day.
Sneaky tactic to sneak in le benis.
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The contests on ESPN were aired MONTHS after they occurred and poorly edited for time.
I didn't see the 1993 Mr. Olympia, which occurred in the fall, until the summer of 1994.
Yeah, but now there's nothing with 1000 more channels available.
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Yeah, but now there's nothing with 1000 more channels available.
It's online streaming. And that probably saved bodybuilding, because there's no more dependence on traditional media to reach fans.
We saw how much $$$$ Vince McMahon lost when he tried putting it on PPV, 30 years ago.
Arnold Schwarzenegger tried airing the ASC on UPN in 1999. It was a complete FLOP, ratings-wise.
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I don't understand why that's a problem. Some may prefer that.
I never claimed it was a problem. I made the point: How can anyone be shocked about alleged "sexual exploitation" after a category was created, where the judges are literally asking for more @$$ on their competitors.
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I personally think that today's 'situation' will boil down to the following question....
Did JM 'promise' the female competitors that they would place higher within a contest if they signed up with him?
Or did the girls simply 'think' that they would place higher if they signed up with JM?
Knowing JM .... I think that the second question is more likely.
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Headline should read something like: Opportunistic Women Competitors Now Old and Useless Are Outraged More Than A Decade Later Due to Willingly Sexualizing Themselves Thinking It Would Improve Placings
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Headline should read something like: Opportunistic Women Competitors Now Old and Useless Are Outraged More Than A Decade Later Due to Willingly Sexualizing Themselves Thinking It Would Improve Placings
X2 - Exactly Right.
They choose to be whores - Live with it Girls.
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It's online streaming. And that probably saved bodybuilding, because there's no more dependence on traditional media to reach fans.
We saw how much $$$$ Vince McMahon lost when he tried putting it on PPV, 30 years ago.
Arnold Schwarzenegger tried airing the ASC on UPN in 1999. It was a complete FLOP, ratings-wise.
They can't be making much with streaming. Most just illegally download it anyway.
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I believe there's a hidden story for this woman and so quit from body building..
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steroids conspiracy's never took it down,murders,various rape cases,ect,,,same with wrestling just as seedy but it makes $$$$$$ so no it will do nothing.couple of woman will get some money and that will be the end of it.
Idk if the “victims” are all on video saying “how much they enjoy shooting with jm” like the YouTube video posted it will get dismissed
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Idk if the “victims” are all on video saying “how much they enjoy shooting with jm” like the YouTube video posted it will get dismissed
I wonder if they enjoy shooting with JM as much as JM enjoys shooting on them ???
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J.M. work with Mercedes Khani.. No graphic edits ;D
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Creepy Schmoe's running these Org's (or helping) Manion, Lonnie, Schmoe Weirder, etc.
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Was looking for a Pumping Iron gif and stumbled upon this. I instantly became aroused. Is this how JM feels during every photoshoot ???
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/77ede75fe13e9f70954c4d9d78bc1e8a/e98d9c469b57a8b1-1b/s400x600/0e58a084a34851381d47a3d85bcf93c682f24f39.gifv)
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https://www.denisemasino.com
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I remember another famous female fitness photographer who puts their clothed/unclothed bodies in covermodels and sheernudes .. Michael Stycket.. He pay less but gets more money 8)
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=541016.msg9356488#msg9356488
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https://www.denisemasino.com
She is way too old to still be doing cam shows.
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BLOCK!!!
SHARE SOME STORIES!!!
After the flameout of GetBig part II you owe us.
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From FitnessInformant: It appears a Class Action Lawsuit is being brought against the IFBB/NPC with @lisabloomesq leading the charge. They are sending out this letter asking people to come forward.
calaspower@aol.com is John Calascione. Executive Director of IFBB Physique America. the rival organization to the IFBB Pro League.
So the heads of a rival organization hired the daughter (Lisa Bloom) of one of the biggest hacks and the most irritating woman in America (Gloria Allred) to solicit stale alleged claims from women who were allegedly exploited over ten years ago. Sounds legit.
I've said this about anyone accused of very old "he said, she said" allegations: they are grossly unfair. How do you defend yourself from decades old allegations? Rhetorical questions, but what were you doing on this precise day ten years ago? Who did you speak with? What did you eat? What did you wear? Now I can tell you precisely what I did ten years ago, because I'm a dinosaur with a 365-day training journal, but most normal people cannot do that. It's just wrong. That's why there are time limits to pursue claims against people.
They need to leave J.M. and the Manion family alone.
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So the heads of a rival organization hired the daughter (Lisa Bloom) of one of the biggest hacks and the most irritating woman in America (Gloria Allred) to solicit stale alleged claims from women who were allegedly exploited over ten years ago. Sounds legit.
I've said this about anyone accused of very old "he said, she said" allegations: they are grossly unfair. How do you defend yourself from decades old allegations? Rhetorical questions, but what were you doing on this precise day ten years ago? Who did you speak with? What did you eat? What did you wear? Now I can tell you precisely what I did ten years ago, because I'm a dinosaur with a 365-day training journal, but most normal people cannot do that. It's just wrong. That's why there are time limits to pursue claims against people.
They need to leave J.M. and the Manion family alone.
It's the modern day witch hunts. Prove you aren't guilty.
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It's the modern day witch hunts. Prove you aren't guilty.
Perhaps they'll tie them up and dunk them in a tank of water. If they float, they're guilty of witchcraft. If they sink and drown, they're innocent and will be welcomed in to Paradise.
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
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So the heads of a rival organization hired the daughter (Lisa Bloom) of one of the biggest hacks and the most irritating woman in America (Gloria Allred) to solicit stale alleged claims from women who were allegedly exploited over ten years ago. Sounds legit.
I've said this about anyone accused of very old "he said, she said" allegations: they are grossly unfair. How do you defend yourself from decades old allegations? Rhetorical questions, but what were you doing on this precise day ten years ago? Who did you speak with? What did you eat? What did you wear? Now I can tell you precisely what I did ten years ago, because I'm a dinosaur with a 365-day training journal, but most normal people cannot do that. It's just wrong. That's why there are time limits to pursue claims against people.
They need to leave J.M. and the Manion family alone.
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I wonder if any of the tops fucked with Corey everson she was a bad bitch
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This story is pathetic and ridiculous. It's these women's choice to act like whores. Yes the characters involved in this fetish are disgusting but that's hardly something the law should deal with. It's the Weinstein story. It's the women taking advantage of men's sexuality lol.
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Was looking for a Pumping Iron gif and stumbled upon this. I instantly became aroused. Is this how JM feels during every photoshoot ???
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/77ede75fe13e9f70954c4d9d78bc1e8a/e98d9c469b57a8b1-1b/s400x600/0e58a084a34851381d47a3d85bcf93c682f24f39.gifv)
Stupid cunt bouncing the bar off her tits. Her upper pectoral development will never be up to snuff.
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This story is pathetic and ridiculous. It's these women's choice to act like whores. Yes the characters involved in this fetish are disgusting but that's hardly something the law should deal with. It's the Weinstein story. It's the women taking advantage of men's sexuality lol.
The truth of it is that they are not acting. They really are whores. Now they just want pity. And of course, someone else's money to "retire" on. No one's paying them anymore because they've been replaced by younger and even filthier creatures. YUCK!
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I wonder if any of the tops fucked with Corey everson she was a bad bitch
Jeff Everson was one of the tops.
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Stupid cunt bouncing the bar off her tits. Her upper pectoral development will never be up to snuff.
You’re right. What a dumb whore
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I remember another famous female fitness photographer who puts their clothed/unclothed bodies in covermodels and sheernudes .. Michael Stycket.. He pay less but gets more money 8)
I remember Michael - along with folks like Robert Kennedy, Rob Sims, Michael Scott, etc... back when I had the Extreme Bikini Team / Extreme Fitness. I used to go to the Arnold's to take photos and worked with a few competitors over time. I can't speak to the allegations around sex being a requirement, but I also heard this was also a problem in Hollywood with people using sex to get parts (sarcasm). I can't speak to the competition/judging side of the business as all I have is second hand info, but most did not present as victims and if they had, I would have told them to go to the police.
The business was a vicious circle of people chasing dreams, trying to make something of themselves (or money) but getting sucked into the machine that chews people up and spits them out with little to show for it. A full page photo in MuscleMag would get a photographer $50, if you were lucky. Cost to get that could be in the thousands when you included studio time, makeup, etc. Which is why many shoots were low budget. I remember being told that while my images were "good" to get published the girls needed to look like they were going to fuck you - that's where the whole open mouth pose comes from. "The girls need to look like they are having sex or are about to have sex" was what I was told to do, so we did and we got some images published.
Then along came pay sites and girls had a choice, figure out how to run their own site or contract out to someone to do it and get a rev share. The big players made a lot of money shooting these girls for content and in return, they often got a trip (maybe expenses were paid, but not always) and the opportunity to work with someone who might get them published and some promotion. But websites required content, designer and developer, banking access, etc. Producing content could be very expensive. There was a time when you could make money doing topless, then people became desensitized to it (there was too much there for free), so the pressure to do more was always there. Full nudes. Light girl/girl. And so on.
I know more than a few that look back on their experiences with some regret, but the article does read like a hit job on the Manions in particular while avoiding an entire industry that used sex to sell. Does anyone think there would have been any money at all going around without it? Even getting a gig as a booth bunny required you to wear skimpy clothes and be groped all day long with a smile.
Sex has been used as a transactional piece forever. I do not condone anything that was forced or coerced, but more often than not when one doesn't get what they expected the feelings about it change. In most cases, the exchange is done willingly and with some kind of expectation of something in return.
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Did all of this get sorted out, so future female competitors can return to the business of facing the wall, swinging the hair to one side and sticking out their well-developed asses? Susan B Anthony dreamed of days like these!
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the new article now talks steroids, others drugs and deaths https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/dying-to-compete/ar-AA14ZYBU
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I know more than a few that look back on their experiences with some regret, but the article does read like a hit job on the Manions in particular while avoiding an entire industry that used sex to sell. Does anyone think there would have been any money at all going around without it? Even getting a gig as a booth bunny required you to wear skimpy clothes and be groped all day long with a smile.
Well said.. 👏👏👏
Good girls never regret and never complain what they did earlier.. But some deny even the past still exists in internet alive.