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Title: EQ
Post by: big juice on November 14, 2005, 04:08:18 PM
if your cycling EQ as your only injectable at 400mgs a week for at least 8 weeks wut kind of results would you get
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: sportingsteroids on November 14, 2005, 04:27:10 PM
stack it with winstrol , tell sth about your stats
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: big juice on November 14, 2005, 04:31:37 PM
reallly i wasnt thinking winstrol i was thinking more lik dbol but if i coudl get away without having to do either that woudl be best juice can get expensive broo its sucks and iv never done EQ before but i haerd your better off cycling EQ alone over Deca alone and also that EQ results take awhile so i was thinking just run it for longer?
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: big-bri on November 14, 2005, 06:13:38 PM
reallly i wasnt thinking winstrol i was thinking more lik dbol but if i coudl get away without having to do either that woudl be best juice can get expensive broo its sucks and iv never done EQ before but i haerd your better off cycling EQ alone over Deca alone and also that EQ results take awhile so i was thinking just run it for longer?
The only drug I'd ever run alone is Test.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: freakfestMD on November 15, 2005, 04:22:07 AM
Run test.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Custom-Built on November 15, 2005, 07:19:13 AM
It's not a cycle without test. Test is the base of every cycle................... ...now you've got to do your homework to find out what kind of test to run. Research............rese arch...........and research some more. I'ts all about research and what kind of results that you want.
 
Sust 250........500mg's a week or more...........
EQ.................400mg's a week

Would get good results, IMO, some size, not to much water retension, and hard.
Loved EQ until Tren came back on the market.................. ..Love that shit...........

So there you have it...............

Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on November 16, 2005, 11:13:22 PM
The only drug I'd ever run alone is Test.

True.


EQ is a weak anabolic......you need more of it to get the same effect you'd get from Winstrol, Tren or Halotestin.




DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Dirtyman on December 04, 2005, 08:46:49 PM
if your cycling EQ as your only injectable at 400mgs a week for at least 8 weeks wut kind of results would you get


Have anyone heard of the EQ brand eurobolics and if so good? or bad?
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: phatabs on December 05, 2005, 01:52:23 PM
Have to agree with Custom-Built ... Test is Best!!! Test and pretty much anything else (depending on your goals) but you have to have Test
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: muscle19 on December 06, 2005, 05:40:30 PM
im currently using it for the first time right now in my current cycle, and i can definetly tell a difference with it included. vascularity is crazy right now and my appitite has increased, i feel like i could eat all day long.


muscle
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: freakfestMD on December 07, 2005, 03:01:56 PM
I'm trying it in my upcoming cycle and I can't wait to see how I do with it (above comments not withstanding).  Also doing winny for the first time and I'm equally excited about that.  Sounds like our cycles are very similar.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Arnold jr on December 07, 2005, 06:39:40 PM
I've used the stuff twice and I was never all that impressed.  I'd choose decca any day over EQ...but to each his own.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on December 07, 2005, 07:17:21 PM
I've used the stuff twice and I was never all that impressed.  I'd choose decca any day over EQ...but to each his own.

^Word.





DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: bravo on December 07, 2005, 07:44:29 PM
getting AMAZING results on my current cycle which includes: test en. 1gm/wk, deca 400mg/wk, eq 400mg/wk and just switched over from 75 anadrol to 50 d-bol qd......first 5 and 1/2 wks have resulted ....drum roll please........20 F 'ing hard, lean pounds  ;D...can't say the eq is not helping but my last cycle with the same meds minus the eq (test was at 750mg/wk) took 9 plus wks to get 3/4 of the same gains.....the great news is that this is a 20 week cycle ;)

only 4 pounds to go to get to 260 and my goal on this cycle is 275 (I'm 6ft 1 in)  jacket size is like over 56 inches and my waist is 33 inches so I should maintain my X nicely.....I got veins and gnarly stuff poppin' off of me all over the place and is seems that this week has just gained a new level of explosion!!!

Title: Re: EQ
Post by: jdoug on December 07, 2005, 08:03:49 PM
getting AMAZING results on my current cycle which includes: test en. 1gm/wk, deca 400mg/wk, eq 400mg/wk and just switched over from 75 anadrol to 50 d-bol qd......first 5 and 1/2 wks have resulted ....drum roll please........20 F 'ing hard, lean pounds  ;D...can't say the eq is not helping but my last cycle with the same meds minus the eq (test was at 750mg/wk) took 9 plus wks to get 3/4 of the same gains.....the great news is that this is a 20 week cycle ;)

only 4 pounds to go to get to 260 and my goal on this cycle is 275 (I'm 6ft 1 in)  jacket size is like over 56 inches and my waist is 33 inches so I should maintain my X nicely.....I got veins and gnarly stuff poppin' off of me all over the place and is seems that this week has just gained a new level of explosion!!!



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Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on December 07, 2005, 08:23:32 PM
getting AMAZING results on my current cycle which includes: test en. 1gm/wk, deca 400mg/wk, eq 400mg/wk and just switched over from 75 anadrol to 50 d-bol qd......first 5 and 1/2 wks have resulted ....drum roll please........20 F 'ing hard, lean pounds  ;D...can't say the eq is not helping but my last cycle with the same meds minus the eq (test was at 750mg/wk) took 9 plus wks to get 3/4 of the same gains.....the great news is that this is a 20 week cycle ;)

only 4 pounds to go to get to 260 and my goal on this cycle is 275 (I'm 6ft 1 in)  jacket size is like over 56 inches and my waist is 33 inches so I should maintain my X nicely.....I got veins and gnarly stuff poppin' off of me all over the place and is seems that this week has just gained a new level of explosion!!!

Sounds good, bro.

Keep it poppin'......



DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: JamieX4200 on December 07, 2005, 09:50:37 PM
Why not run the eq with some tren and the winny... maybe some sust.  None of those make you hold much water or none at all.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Luv2Hurt on December 08, 2005, 04:19:50 AM
will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect.  But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on December 08, 2005, 01:40:04 PM
will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect.  But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.

^Concur.

If minimal sides are your thing, then EQ, Anavar, Primo are probably your best bets.





DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Arnold jr on December 08, 2005, 02:52:13 PM
will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect.  But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
The thing about deca though is that while the sides can be bad, if proper percautions are taken then the sides are something you don't have to worry about.  If you keep your ratio of test and deca in proper balance that helps minimize sides tremendously.  Also adding in Arimidex or something similar can usually take care of the rest.  So if you can take deca properly why would you want to choose EQ instead? Both cause and increase in appetite, size, strength etc but deca does it a whole lot more, so if you use it right it just seems to me to be the more logical choice.

One last thing though, I've read that many believe that it is easier to solidify your gains with EQ rather then deca.  I don't understand how this could be the case since both EQ and deca are both similar, both cause a good nitrogen balance as well as increased protein synthesis, deca however being more potent.  Any thoughts
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on December 08, 2005, 03:37:15 PM
One last thing though, I've read that many believe that it is easier to solidify your gains with EQ rather then deca.  I don't understand how this could be the case since both EQ and deca are both similar, both cause a good nitrogen balance as well as increased protein synthesis, deca however being more potent.  Any thoughts

Deca is more potent than EQ.

People who favor EQ are looking for an increase in appetite and steady gains with minimal sides.

Deca is stronger, but the possibe sides are also stronger.  That Decadick syndrome is something most guys are leery of.  It's not something you want to guess on, if your Test:Deca ratio isn't tight, you might have a case of a dropdick.....and that shit's no fun.



DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Michael Myers on December 08, 2005, 03:40:32 PM
Bravo, what kind of anti-e protocol are you running if any?
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: jdoug on December 08, 2005, 03:55:31 PM
i luv liq fem :)
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: bravo on December 08, 2005, 05:08:59 PM
Bravo, what kind of anti-e protocol are you running if any?

Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs

took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again.   Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: jdoug on December 08, 2005, 05:16:48 PM
Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs

took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again.   Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.

arimedex over fem   ::)
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on December 08, 2005, 05:27:14 PM
Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs

took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again.   Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.

Good choice, Bravo.....

Arimidex is more efficient...........if you can find it, you might want to try Aromasin.

While Arimidex/Femara block 75-80% of all estrogen activity in the body, Aromasin blocks 85%+......

It's the most potent of the new AI's on the market.




DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Michael Myers on December 08, 2005, 05:39:54 PM
Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs

took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again.   Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.

So you're using a 1/2 tab of A-dex every 3rd or 4th day? If I'm reading that right. Little bit of itchiness now and again, but nothing major.

Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Michael Myers on December 08, 2005, 05:40:49 PM
Aromasin blocks 85%+......

It's the most potent of the new AI's on the market.

DIV

Is that also go by trade name of Letrozole?
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: jdoug on December 08, 2005, 05:51:15 PM
femara goes by that
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: jdoug on December 08, 2005, 05:54:21 PM
Is that also go by trade name of Letrozole?

arimidex: liquidex or Anastrozole
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Michael Myers on December 08, 2005, 05:56:27 PM
femara goes by that

gotcha, what is another trade name for aromasin then, or it only goes by that?
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: DIVISION on December 08, 2005, 06:00:18 PM
gotcha, what is another trade name for aromasin then, or it only goes by that?

exemestane is the chemical name of the drug.

Aromasin is the "trade name".




DIV
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Michael Myers on December 08, 2005, 06:03:22 PM
exemestane is the chemical name of the drug.

Aromasin is the "trade name".




DIV

on a cost basis, is it more effective than a-dex, or a-dex is the better option?

everyone i know is switching to femara though??
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Arnold jr on December 08, 2005, 06:30:14 PM


Deca is stronger, but the possibe sides are also stronger.  That Decadick syndrome is something most guys are leery of.  It's not something you want to guess on, if your Test:Deca ratio isn't tight, you might have a case of a dropdick.....and that shit's no fun.



DIV
Agreed, but my point is that if your doing things right, none of the sides should be a concern
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Luv2Hurt on December 08, 2005, 06:36:52 PM
Agreed, but my point is that if your doing things right, none of the sides should be a concern

What sucks about deca is how long it lingers and its negative influence on the HPTA.  The stuff is hard to control at the end, its pretty suppressive.  For that reason I would stop deca no less than a month before I stop my test and come away from the cycle.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Arnold jr on December 08, 2005, 07:45:12 PM
What sucks about deca is how long it lingers and its negative influence on the HPTA.  The stuff is hard to control at the end, its pretty suppressive.  For that reason I would stop deca no less than a month before I stop my test and come away from the cycle.
Yes it can be suppressive, I agree, and I agree that you should never end your cycle still on deca.  But that goes with the point I have been trying to make, if you do everything right you won't have to worry about the sides or the after affects.  Sure, coming off deca is an adjustment but it's not one that is imposable or extremely difficult if like you said you run your test longer than the deca.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: bravo on December 08, 2005, 07:53:24 PM
So you're using a 1/2 tab of A-dex every 3rd or 4th day? If I'm reading that right. Little bit of itchiness now and again, but nothing major.



1/2 tab qd = every day  or 1 full tab eod
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: jdoug on December 08, 2005, 08:18:07 PM
so should i take deca out of my next cycle  :(
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: Luv2Hurt on December 09, 2005, 04:20:52 AM
Yes it can be suppressive, I agree, and I agree that you should never end your cycle still on deca.  But that goes with the point I have been trying to make, if you do everything right you won't have to worry about the sides or the after affects.  Sure, coming off deca is an adjustment but it's not one that is imposable or extremely difficult if like you said you run your test longer than the deca.

Yep I pretty much agree, I like long cycles so it works for me, I think deca is suited for longer (16wk min) cycles best.  So the down side is on shorter cycles you have to drop the anabolic too early in the cycle if cycling deca and test. 

Other wise its a staple anabolic that gives a nice affect.
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: freakfestMD on December 09, 2005, 10:53:16 AM
Go bravo! 

I'll probably be seeing bravo in about 2 weeks or so--haven't seen the brav since Easter I think, before the previous cycle.  I am prepared to be amazed!
Title: Re: EQ
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on December 09, 2005, 01:08:13 PM
will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect.  But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
this sounds ideal to me, why bother with side effects for a little more size, if you can make steady, decent gains while totally minimizing the side effects? why would anyone choose otherwise....i guess just the people going for the enormous and freaky look?