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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: big juice on November 14, 2005, 04:08:18 PM
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if your cycling EQ as your only injectable at 400mgs a week for at least 8 weeks wut kind of results would you get
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stack it with winstrol , tell sth about your stats
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reallly i wasnt thinking winstrol i was thinking more lik dbol but if i coudl get away without having to do either that woudl be best juice can get expensive broo its sucks and iv never done EQ before but i haerd your better off cycling EQ alone over Deca alone and also that EQ results take awhile so i was thinking just run it for longer?
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reallly i wasnt thinking winstrol i was thinking more lik dbol but if i coudl get away without having to do either that woudl be best juice can get expensive broo its sucks and iv never done EQ before but i haerd your better off cycling EQ alone over Deca alone and also that EQ results take awhile so i was thinking just run it for longer?
The only drug I'd ever run alone is Test.
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Run test.
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It's not a cycle without test. Test is the base of every cycle................... ...now you've got to do your homework to find out what kind of test to run. Research............rese arch...........and research some more. I'ts all about research and what kind of results that you want.
Sust 250........500mg's a week or more...........
EQ.................400mg's a week
Would get good results, IMO, some size, not to much water retension, and hard.
Loved EQ until Tren came back on the market.................. ..Love that shit...........
So there you have it...............
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The only drug I'd ever run alone is Test.
True.
EQ is a weak anabolic......you need more of it to get the same effect you'd get from Winstrol, Tren or Halotestin.
DIV
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if your cycling EQ as your only injectable at 400mgs a week for at least 8 weeks wut kind of results would you get
Have anyone heard of the EQ brand eurobolics and if so good? or bad?
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Have to agree with Custom-Built ... Test is Best!!! Test and pretty much anything else (depending on your goals) but you have to have Test
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im currently using it for the first time right now in my current cycle, and i can definetly tell a difference with it included. vascularity is crazy right now and my appitite has increased, i feel like i could eat all day long.
muscle
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I'm trying it in my upcoming cycle and I can't wait to see how I do with it (above comments not withstanding). Also doing winny for the first time and I'm equally excited about that. Sounds like our cycles are very similar.
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I've used the stuff twice and I was never all that impressed. I'd choose decca any day over EQ...but to each his own.
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I've used the stuff twice and I was never all that impressed. I'd choose decca any day over EQ...but to each his own.
^Word.
DIV
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getting AMAZING results on my current cycle which includes: test en. 1gm/wk, deca 400mg/wk, eq 400mg/wk and just switched over from 75 anadrol to 50 d-bol qd......first 5 and 1/2 wks have resulted ....drum roll please........20 F 'ing hard, lean pounds ;D...can't say the eq is not helping but my last cycle with the same meds minus the eq (test was at 750mg/wk) took 9 plus wks to get 3/4 of the same gains.....the great news is that this is a 20 week cycle ;)
only 4 pounds to go to get to 260 and my goal on this cycle is 275 (I'm 6ft 1 in) jacket size is like over 56 inches and my waist is 33 inches so I should maintain my X nicely.....I got veins and gnarly stuff poppin' off of me all over the place and is seems that this week has just gained a new level of explosion!!!
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getting AMAZING results on my current cycle which includes: test en. 1gm/wk, deca 400mg/wk, eq 400mg/wk and just switched over from 75 anadrol to 50 d-bol qd......first 5 and 1/2 wks have resulted ....drum roll please........20 F 'ing hard, lean pounds ;D...can't say the eq is not helping but my last cycle with the same meds minus the eq (test was at 750mg/wk) took 9 plus wks to get 3/4 of the same gains.....the great news is that this is a 20 week cycle ;)
only 4 pounds to go to get to 260 and my goal on this cycle is 275 (I'm 6ft 1 in) jacket size is like over 56 inches and my waist is 33 inches so I should maintain my X nicely.....I got veins and gnarly stuff poppin' off of me all over the place and is seems that this week has just gained a new level of explosion!!!
>:(
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getting AMAZING results on my current cycle which includes: test en. 1gm/wk, deca 400mg/wk, eq 400mg/wk and just switched over from 75 anadrol to 50 d-bol qd......first 5 and 1/2 wks have resulted ....drum roll please........20 F 'ing hard, lean pounds ;D...can't say the eq is not helping but my last cycle with the same meds minus the eq (test was at 750mg/wk) took 9 plus wks to get 3/4 of the same gains.....the great news is that this is a 20 week cycle ;)
only 4 pounds to go to get to 260 and my goal on this cycle is 275 (I'm 6ft 1 in) jacket size is like over 56 inches and my waist is 33 inches so I should maintain my X nicely.....I got veins and gnarly stuff poppin' off of me all over the place and is seems that this week has just gained a new level of explosion!!!
Sounds good, bro.
Keep it poppin'......
DIV
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Why not run the eq with some tren and the winny... maybe some sust. None of those make you hold much water or none at all.
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will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect. But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
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will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect. But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
^Concur.
If minimal sides are your thing, then EQ, Anavar, Primo are probably your best bets.
DIV
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will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect. But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
The thing about deca though is that while the sides can be bad, if proper percautions are taken then the sides are something you don't have to worry about. If you keep your ratio of test and deca in proper balance that helps minimize sides tremendously. Also adding in Arimidex or something similar can usually take care of the rest. So if you can take deca properly why would you want to choose EQ instead? Both cause and increase in appetite, size, strength etc but deca does it a whole lot more, so if you use it right it just seems to me to be the more logical choice.
One last thing though, I've read that many believe that it is easier to solidify your gains with EQ rather then deca. I don't understand how this could be the case since both EQ and deca are both similar, both cause a good nitrogen balance as well as increased protein synthesis, deca however being more potent. Any thoughts
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One last thing though, I've read that many believe that it is easier to solidify your gains with EQ rather then deca. I don't understand how this could be the case since both EQ and deca are both similar, both cause a good nitrogen balance as well as increased protein synthesis, deca however being more potent. Any thoughts
Deca is more potent than EQ.
People who favor EQ are looking for an increase in appetite and steady gains with minimal sides.
Deca is stronger, but the possibe sides are also stronger. That Decadick syndrome is something most guys are leery of. It's not something you want to guess on, if your Test:Deca ratio isn't tight, you might have a case of a dropdick.....and that shit's no fun.
DIV
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Bravo, what kind of anti-e protocol are you running if any?
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i luv liq fem :)
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Bravo, what kind of anti-e protocol are you running if any?
Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs
took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again. Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.
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Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs
took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again. Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.
arimedex over fem ::)
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Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs
took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again. Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.
Good choice, Bravo.....
Arimidex is more efficient...........if you can find it, you might want to try Aromasin.
While Arimidex/Femara block 75-80% of all estrogen activity in the body, Aromasin blocks 85%+......
It's the most potent of the new AI's on the market.
DIV
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Arimidex 0.5mg qd........tried 0.25mg qd for a while (3-4 days) and started to feel a little tight w/ water retention which resolved spontaneously after going back to 0.5 mgs
took DIV's advice regarding arimedex over femara and feel like its much more effective as even on full dose of femara, I occasionally felt a little nipple itch now and again. Its also cheaper by about 30 % per dose.
So you're using a 1/2 tab of A-dex every 3rd or 4th day? If I'm reading that right. Little bit of itchiness now and again, but nothing major.
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Aromasin blocks 85%+......
It's the most potent of the new AI's on the market.
DIV
Is that also go by trade name of Letrozole?
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femara goes by that
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Is that also go by trade name of Letrozole?
arimidex: liquidex or Anastrozole
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femara goes by that
gotcha, what is another trade name for aromasin then, or it only goes by that?
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gotcha, what is another trade name for aromasin then, or it only goes by that?
exemestane is the chemical name of the drug.
Aromasin is the "trade name".
DIV
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exemestane is the chemical name of the drug.
Aromasin is the "trade name".
DIV
on a cost basis, is it more effective than a-dex, or a-dex is the better option?
everyone i know is switching to femara though??
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Deca is stronger, but the possibe sides are also stronger. That Decadick syndrome is something most guys are leery of. It's not something you want to guess on, if your Test:Deca ratio isn't tight, you might have a case of a dropdick.....and that shit's no fun.
DIV
Agreed, but my point is that if your doing things right, none of the sides should be a concern
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Agreed, but my point is that if your doing things right, none of the sides should be a concern
What sucks about deca is how long it lingers and its negative influence on the HPTA. The stuff is hard to control at the end, its pretty suppressive. For that reason I would stop deca no less than a month before I stop my test and come away from the cycle.
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What sucks about deca is how long it lingers and its negative influence on the HPTA. The stuff is hard to control at the end, its pretty suppressive. For that reason I would stop deca no less than a month before I stop my test and come away from the cycle.
Yes it can be suppressive, I agree, and I agree that you should never end your cycle still on deca. But that goes with the point I have been trying to make, if you do everything right you won't have to worry about the sides or the after affects. Sure, coming off deca is an adjustment but it's not one that is imposable or extremely difficult if like you said you run your test longer than the deca.
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So you're using a 1/2 tab of A-dex every 3rd or 4th day? If I'm reading that right. Little bit of itchiness now and again, but nothing major.
1/2 tab qd = every day or 1 full tab eod
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so should i take deca out of my next cycle :(
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Yes it can be suppressive, I agree, and I agree that you should never end your cycle still on deca. But that goes with the point I have been trying to make, if you do everything right you won't have to worry about the sides or the after affects. Sure, coming off deca is an adjustment but it's not one that is imposable or extremely difficult if like you said you run your test longer than the deca.
Yep I pretty much agree, I like long cycles so it works for me, I think deca is suited for longer (16wk min) cycles best. So the down side is on shorter cycles you have to drop the anabolic too early in the cycle if cycling deca and test.
Other wise its a staple anabolic that gives a nice affect.
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Go bravo!
I'll probably be seeing bravo in about 2 weeks or so--haven't seen the brav since Easter I think, before the previous cycle. I am prepared to be amazed!
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will agree EQ is not the top size or strength inducer, deca seems to exert more effect. But is is also nice because the results from it are accompanied by minimal, if any side effects.
this sounds ideal to me, why bother with side effects for a little more size, if you can make steady, decent gains while totally minimizing the side effects? why would anyone choose otherwise....i guess just the people going for the enormous and freaky look?