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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
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thats why I didnt vote at ALL. neither Mitt or Obama appealed to me.
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That is absolutely FUCKING RIDICULOUS!
FUCK YOU BIDEN.
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You and millions others. You were warned, but "you knew better"..
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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
TA, can you say more about his health care plan?
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Oh brother......
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You and millions others. You were warned, but "you knew better"..
I think Mitt Romney would have done the same or worse. He actually implemented an Assault Weapons Ban, his Healthcare Plan in Massachusetts is the same garbage that Obamacare is and I am sure Romney gives two fucks less about Video Games and would have blamed them perhaps even moreso. (Republicans have been blaming Video Games for a few months now which is complete nonsense)
I hope Jesse Ventura runs in 2016. I even think Chris Christie is a sensible choice since he really doesn`t cater to anyone.
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I think Mitt Romney would have done the same or worse. He actually implemented an Assault Weapons Ban, his Healthcare Plan in Massachusetts is the same garbage that Obamacare is and I am sure Romney gives two fucks less about Video Games and would have blamed them perhaps even moreso. (Republicans have been blaming Video Games for a few months now which is complete nonsense)
I hope Jesse Ventura runs in 2016. I even think Chris Christie is a sensible choice since he really doesn`t cater to anyone.
They would rather blame games than guns... Too bad no one wants to just blame CRAZY.
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TA, can you say more about his health care plan?
Obamacare? The Government Forcing people to buy a "product" from the private sector is the very definition of Fascism.
The Average Penalty for NOT choosing to buy Health Insurance will be around 1200 dollars by 2016.
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And here we go...
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Listen to this moron. This used to be/is the way Republicans talked when they were trying for the same exact health plan. The Democratic Party is far from Progressive or Liberal at this point. Not only that, they have chosen to distance themselves from the Constitution.
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interesting thread Adonis
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They would rather blame games than guns... Too bad no one wants to just blame CRAZY.
I think most people believe Crazy can be fixed and that a pill or five will do it (complete nonsense). Crazy has been with Homo Sapiens all along. Violence though, has seriously declined not only the United States, but in the World. These are the safest times to live in of all humanity.
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thats why I didnt vote at ALL. neither Mitt or Obama appealed to me.
you're an American?
Worst news I heard all day.
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interesting thread Adonis
“There is only one party in the United States, the Property Party … and it has two right wings: Republican and Democrat.” - Gore Vidal
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For the very first time ever I feel like some really bad stuff is about to happen to the american people.
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the celebration of violence in our culture is a real problem and the appropriate response to crazy people going on shooting sprees is addressing cultural factors that influence the celebration of violence such as violent video games, movies, etc. not to legislate that they may not be violent, but to have serious , meaningful conversation with the american public and the producers of such content about the morality of such an entertainment industry.
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the celebration of violence in our culture is a real problem and the appropriate response to crazy people going on shooting sprees is addressing cultural factors that influence the celebration of violence such as violent video games, movies, etc. not to legislate that they may not be violent, but to have serious , meaningful conversation with the american public and the producers of such content about the morality of such an entertainment industry.
Plus more guns.
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the celebration of violence in our culture is a real problem and the appropriate response to crazy people going on shooting sprees is addressing cultural factors that influence the celebration of violence such as violent video games, movies, etc. not to legislate that they may not be violent, but to have serious , meaningful conversation with the american public and the producers of such content about the morality of such an entertainment industry.
YES!!!!
The intelligent tbombz is back!!!
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the celebration of violence in our culture is a real problem and the appropriate response to crazy people going on shooting sprees is addressing cultural factors that influence the celebration of violence such as violent video games, movies, etc. not to legislate that they may not be violent, but to have serious , meaningful conversation with the american public and the producers of such content about the morality of such an entertainment industry.
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Yes, because Joe Biden has completed all of the Achievements in GTA IV and therefore is an authority on Video Games.
There is plenty of Fluffy Carebear type entertainment out there, I suggest you find it.
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YES!!!!
The intelligent tbombz is back!!!
Thats not intelligent at all. Why try to change the Zeitgeist over isolated incidents?
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Thats not intelligent at all. Why try to change the Zeitgeist over isolated incidents?
I'm only refering to tbombz pointing out the fact that we need to discuss what's creating killer kids, not banning the tool they happen to use.
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Thats not intelligent at all. Why try to change the Zeitgeist over isolated incidents?
Squeeky wheel syndrome. It never fails, the US populace is quite adept at knee jerk reactions.
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YES!!!!
The intelligent tbombz is back!!!
:)
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Yes, because Joe Biden has completed all of the Achievements in GTA IV and therefore is an authority on Video Games.
There is plenty of Fluffy Carebear type entertainment out there, I suggest you find it.
biden isnt an expert on psychology who could provide valuable insight into video game and movie creation and how to provide the kind of entertainment consumers want without celebrating death and violence.... but he is the vice president of the united states and that carries somme weight anyways.
your free to watch and play and celebrate violence all you want to. but i personally think that its degenerative and negative and damaging to society and would rather not partake in it. and i encourage others to feel the same. and i think that if you want to address the issue of violence then people need to seriously think about what their movies and video games are teaching them.
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I'm only refering to tbombz pointing out the fact that we need to discuss what's creating killer kids, not banning the tool they happen to use.
There are a billion reasons that could cause one to kill, from the DNA level to "I didn`t want milk with my eggs, you bitch". This is not new behavior whatsoever and in fact, Violence is at its lowest point in all of human history and shows no sign of increasing.
Waste of discussion.
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There are a billion reasons that could cause one to kill, from the DNA level to "I didn`t want milk with my eggs, you bitch".
Waste of discussion.
so any discussion about morality is essentially meaningless and completely useless. gotcha. :D
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:)
biden isnt an expert on psychology who could provide valuable insight into video game and movie creation and how to provide the kind of entertainment consumers want without celebrating death and violence.... but he is the vice president of the united states and that carries somme weight anyways.
your free to watch and play and celebrate violence all you want to. but i personally think that its degenerative and negative and damaging to society and would rather not partake in it. and i encourage others to feel the same. and i think that if you want to address the issue of violence then people need to seriously think about what their movies and video games are teaching them.
Says the one who takes his morals from an overtly violent source, The Bible.
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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
then why did you vote for him a 2nd time
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So the spook lied to you? Perhaps your dear ol' Grandfather should have beaten his ancestors harder.
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Says the one who takes his morals from an overtly violent source, The Bible.
??? lol i guess you dont really read my posts.. bible is nothing but man made dogma.. most of it by the kings of judah who had their scribes write down stories about how it was gods will for them to take power so that the peasants would submit peacefully.. now, as for the idea of a creating intelligent force that is responsible for existence and life... well, yes now thats something i fancy :)
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So the spook lied to you? Perhaps your dear ol' Grandfather should have beaten his ancestors harder.
in Kenya ?
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then why did you vote for him a 2nd time
The Alternative was equally as bad if not worse. :-\
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The USA is fucked
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The USA WORLD is fucked
Fixed.
How the US goes, so goes the rest of the world.
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The Alternative was equally as bad if not worse. :-\
you could have not voted
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I know this is a crazy idea, but imagine a mildly, socially liberal political party that was cool with gay marriage and abortion but didn't worship the the idea of diversity over ability. Imagine a party that appreciated libertarian ideas about limited government but didn't obsess over "chem trails" and "tower seven." Imagine a political party that believed fiscal responsibility can include short term safety nets for people in dire straights, but had no use for long term cradle to grave care.
Maybe it's a fairy tale :-\
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The Alternative was equally as bad if not worse. :-\
TA, Romney's record proved otherwise. Regardless, unlike many on here who are still in denial, seems you have came to your senses. Admittedly, you have changed quite a bit this past year.
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The Alternative was equally as bad if not worse. :-\
I agree with this.... Romney was horrible.
Obama was better, at least you knew where you stood I believe.
This gun shit is just him pandering... He ought to be slapped for it.
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you could have not voted
Romney was a bit worse for many reasons.
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Romney was a bit worse for many reasons.
then how can you regret voting for Obama?
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TA, Romney's record proved otherwise. Regardless, unlike many on here who are still in denial, seems you have came to your senses. Admittedly, you have changed quite a bit this past year.
Romney`s health care plan was no different than Obamacare. He actually implemented an Assault Weapons Ban in Massachusetts. Romney had no inhibition about working to restrict Women`s reproductive rights. He also did not take as hard of a stance against Terrorism as Obama has. There was no indication that Romney`s foreign policy would have been better in any way.
I don`t think Romney would have been a wise choice.
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Romney was a bit worse for many reasons.
We're never going to know, I disagree, but half heartedly, no doubt.
I think the country almost wants some kind of existential crisis, much like the bitch in many relationships craves an argument.
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I agree with this.... Romney was horrible.
Obama was better, at least you knew where you stood I believe.
This gun shit is just him pandering... He ought to be slapped for it.
It's over not, the fraud won, but how was Romey horrible? he was a successful Governor as opposed to Obama who was a failure as a senator and a failure as a president. He destroyed his district in Illinois.
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then how can you regret voting for Obama?
I regret it in that Obama has not lived up to what he purported to be in many areas. The Health Care Bill, just one example, is absolute nonsense and I have been saying so since 2009 (when they decided to implement the Bob Dole Republican Plan with no Public Option and not allowing anyone from a Single-Payer point of view to be present in any discussion).
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It's over not, the fraud won, but how was Romey horrible? he was a successful Governor as opposed to Obama who was a failure as a senator and a failure as a president. He destroyed his district in Illinois.
Romney would have been another mass murdrer like bush. A coward, born with a silver spoon stuck up his ass, afraid of his own shadow.
Obama was the best choice.
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Romney would have been another mass murdrer like bush. A coward, born with a silver spoon stuck up his ass, afraid of his own shadow.
Obama was the best choice.
I like you Tommy, but you still don't get it.
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I like you Tommy, but you still don't get it.
Hey, Power Meet at Diablo Barbell, Feb 10. Should be good. If you can make it up, let me know. Class I and up.
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Hey, Power Meet at Diablo Barbell, Feb 10. Should be good.
Are you going to the Bellator fight in Irvine next Thursday?
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Are you going to the Bellator fight in Irvine next Thursday?
Negative Sir. We fight in OKC this Saturday. The last show ever for Strikeforce.
I have sent Bellator a resume- I would love to work with them in the future.
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Obamacare? The Government Forcing people to buy a "product" from the private sector is the very definition of Fascism.
The Average Penalty for NOT choosing to buy Health Insurance will be around 1200 dollars by 2016.
they already do this,
its called car insurance
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they already do this,
its called car insurance
I am very against that as well. It is on a State Level and at one time, not all States required it. I think Car Insurance should be optional and should be used to ONLY protect your car and not somebody elses vehicle.
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Another interesting bit is that Peter Lewis, founder of Progressive Insurance, also believes car insurance should be optional and ONLY cover YOUR car should you want it.
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they already do this,
its called car insurance
There's a bit of a difference there...
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Another interesting bit is that Peter Lewis, founder of Progressive Insurance, also believes car insurance should be optional and ONLY cover YOUR car should you want it.
I argued with you about this a long time ago, looking back I realize that you have a point.
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New Hampshire still does not require Auto Insurance.
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www.nh.gov/insurance/consumers/documents/nh_auto_guide.pdf
New Hampshire Motor Vehicle Laws do not require you to carry Auto Insurance
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Wisconsin and Alabama used to not require it. The Insurance Lobby is a GIANT business and should have NEVER been allowed to collude with Government.
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Another interesting bit is that Peter Lewis, founder of Progressive Insurance, also believes car insurance should be optional and ONLY cover YOUR car should you want it.
I agree!
I never thought too hard about it, but it sure seems like a scam... having to pay for someone else's auto = the guy you crashed into gets pissed if you don't have insurance = widespread support for government mandated car insurance = $$$ for insurance companies... am i correct?
btw, good posts itt adonis.
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an expert on psychology who could provide valuable insight into video game and movie creation and how to provide the kind of entertainment consumers want without celebrating death and violence....
as an expert in psychology, i posit people will always be unsatisfied unless they get their violence needs taken care of.
and i think that if you want to address the issue of violence then people need to seriously think about what their movies and video games are teaching them.
so it's movies and videogames that teach us to love blowing peoples' heads off? are you sure? i don't exactly recall recoiling in horror the first time I got a headshot on someone... pretty sure i thought it was awesome off the bat ???
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"Civilized life has altogether grown too tame, and, if it is to be stable, it must provide a harmless outlets for the impulses which our remote ancestors satisfied in hunting."
- Bertrand Russell
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We're never going to know, I disagree, but half heartedly, no doubt.
I think the country almost wants some kind of existential crisis, much like the bitch in many relationships craves an argument.
americans tend to be that way...almost a kind of fatalism in a sense.
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We warned you many times. R-Money would ot have been able to get away w this crap.
The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
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We warned you many times. R-Money would ot have been able to get away w this crap.
Republicans are blaming video games also. It makes zero sense.
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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
i'm sure they give a shit what you think
get a job & a life
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Stopping school shootings is non-nonsensical.
Got it.
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Stopping school shootings is non-nonsensical.
Got it.
Ban earthquakes.
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They won't blame anti-depressents. Too much funding from the Medical assosication. But that's a big part. A lot of these shooters have serious issues and it comes from mind altering drugs. Video games doesn't alter the mind or reality like drugs do.
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Ban earthquakes.
right on. stupid libs.
god punishes libs with earthquakes and hurocanse
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Obamacare? The Government Forcing people to buy a "product" from the private sector is the very definition of Fascism.
The Average Penalty for NOT choosing to buy Health Insurance will be around 1200 dollars by 2016.
Mark my words, Obamacare will be one of the biggest clusterfucks of this century. The writing is on the wall, and the cards are already falling into place. Employers are already vouching to cut employees hours. For the employers who don't cut their employees hours, they're going to raise the cost of their products to offset the cost of providing healthcare to their employees. People are going to be forced to buy their own insurance or face a penalty. However, if you make below a certain amount of money per year, you will be given health insurance for free by the govt.
Ultimately, this is going to make the following happen. Employees hours will get cut, and they will earn less. Prices of goods will increase. Employees will eventually strive to earn less, so that they can fall below a certain level and get insurance for free. Finally, the product and customer service of businesses will go to shit. A full time employee with good benefits is a happy employee. Happy employees make great products, and provide great customer service. A part-time struggling employee will put out a shitty product with shitty customer servcie. After all, they have no incentive to do a good job.
Obamacare will fuck this country up, and that is the number one reason I did not vote for him. Why do you think they waited until after the second election to unveil this great turd? Furthermore, i'm glad you're finally coming to your senses. :D
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A nation full of fatties doesn't give a shit about health care.
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A nation full of fatties doesn't give a shit about health care.
Obamacare has nothing to do w healthcare. its about control and taxation.
Only an idiot thinks O-THUG gives a damn about peoples' healthcare.
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Obamacare has nothing to do w healthcare. its about control and taxation.
Only an idiot thinks O-THUG gives a damn about peoples' healthcare.
Yes, it's about making money off the working class (employers and employees). However, i'm afraid it's going to have an opposite effect. Soon, doing less and sucking off the govt's tit will be the new standard.
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For those that voted for Obama/Biden, these things (Obamacare, gun regulations) should be no surprise. Respectfully, they just believe in bigger government with more government solutions to issues, gov regulations and controls.
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Hucakbee said it all when he said if more people were reading the Bible with their families nothing of all that crap would happen at all in the first place.
Parents who let kids play with violent video games very early, dont love them and abandon them emotionnaly are the only responsible for their kids becoming headcases wanting to destroy life instead of cultivating, protecting it. Had they loved their kids enough, had they stuck together in the interest of their kids instead of separating for each others sole egoistical interests, nothing bad would have happened.
Basically atheists are fucked up, pretend to be free and smarter than everyone else, BETTER than everyone else, but they are in fact lost and destructive. This is why atheists dont reproduce anymore ultimately and get replaced by religious people, whatever the god they believe in. Life has no meaning if you dont believe, and only one God is the true one. The process of life is a constant selection operated by the creator of the experience who is looking to obtain a very precise result.
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For those that voted for Obama/Biden, these things (Obamacare, gun regulations) should be no surprise. Respectfully, they just believe in bigger government with more government solutions to issues, gov regulations and controls.
you want to know where socialism is heading? look at europe; people became atheists, dont reproduce, and are replaced by muslims from the middle east and africa. If the united states abandon God , stop believing, they ll become even bigger atheists, will stop to reproduce and will be replaced by mexicans and south americans, as simple as that.
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The following is the rude awakening the average Obama voter will experience in 2014 while having their taxes prepped by H&R Block at Walmart:
"Wait a minute, hold up! Y'all always cut me a refund check for $900 to $1,100 on the spot and you telling me I gotta pay your $700 this year? Man, my medical benefits at work already went up about $125 a month and are gonna go up again this year and now I gotta pay you taxes?! Where is my refund check?!!! I voted for Obama....something ain't right here! Lemme talk to your manager!"
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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
this :'(
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You were all warned many many many times.
You guys think Romney would have been able to get with any of this bs w the media on him 24/7? No. Romney would have been allowed to focus on the economy and little else which is still a mess.
HOPE AND CHANGE FOOLS
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You were all warned many many many times.
You guys think Romney would have been able to get with any of this bs w the media on him 24/7? No. Romney would have been allowed to focus on the economy and little else which is still a mess.
HOPE AND CHANGE FOOLS
There will be change. You can bet the farm on it. :-\
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Hucakbee said it all when he said if more people were reading the Bible with their families nothing of all that crap would happen at all in the first place.
Parents who let kids play with violent video games very early, dont love them and abandon them emotionnaly are the only responsible for their kids becoming headcases wanting to destroy life instead of cultivating, protecting it. Had they loved their kids enough, had they stuck together in the interest of their kids instead of separating for each others sole egoistical interests, nothing bad would have happened.
Basically atheists are fucked up, pretend to be free and smarter than everyone else, BETTER than everyone else, but they are in fact lost and destructive. This is why atheists dont reproduce anymore ultimately and get replaced by religious people, whatever the god they believe in. Life has no meaning if you dont believe, and only one God is the true one. The process of life is a constant selection operated by the creator of the experience who is looking to obtain a very precise result.
Shut the fuck up.
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Romney was just a white Obama. If the Republicans would start to get back to the right of center and stand for something they might do better. Sad but the Republicans our the Democrat's bitches in Washington. Why should I have to pay for some fat ass, smoking, couch potatoes insurance? Let them die it is their choice.
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Romney was just a white Obama. If the Republicans would start to get back to the right of center and stand for something they might do better. Sad but the Republicans our the Democrat's bitches in Washington. Why should I have to pay for some fat ass, smoking, couch potatoes insurance? Let them die it is their choice.
YES
We need Fiscal Conservatives that are Socially Liberal.
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YES
We need Fiscal Conservatives that are Socially Liberal.
I could not agree more. But since the fix is in we will never see a person like that.
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For the very first time ever I feel like some really bad stuff is about to happen to the american people.
Really? I've been thinking this for the past few years, and the more money I make, the more I fear I become a target. It's always going to happen, no culture/government stays the same, look at Europe and how many times they have revolted and started over. It's just the US's time. I myself, and putting my affairs in order to high tail it out of here when the shit hits the fan.
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Fixed.
How the US goes, so goes the rest of the world.
This is it right here!!!
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You were all warned many many many times.
You guys think Romney would have been able to get with any of this bs w the media on him 24/7? No. Romney would have been allowed to focus on the economy and little else which is still a mess.
HOPE AND CHANGE FOOLS
This. Romney might have not been a much better POTUS but he would have been better for the economy.
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Many white kids that shoot up schools blame it on video games.
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simple response.
all the smart people voted for obama. the dumb ones didnt vote or voted romney. fact. google it.
which group are you?
not their problem you arent the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Yeah as long as you have a congress full of crooks doesnt matter who the head man in charge is. Nothing but the poster boy for the entire congresses mess anyway. Obama , Romney, Joe Blow wouldnt save us from the inevitable which is those who have the congress positions are in love with money ,, OUR MONEY .
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the people in congress should all be put in prison.
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Don't forget about "hj res 15". The left's attempt at repealing the 22nd amendment. They are going to try and make Obama president for life!
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simple response.
all the smart people voted for obama. the dumb ones didnt vote or voted romney. fact. google it.
which group are you?
not their problem you arent the sharpest tool in the shed.
LOL!!!!!
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LOL!!!!!
You laugh like you suggest yourself as a discriminating voter. In fact, you're at best a retard at the end of the day and a tender of a potato at the onset.
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they already do this,
its called car insurance
I agree that you shouldn't have to have car insurance. Obamacare is altogether different though, because you don't have to own a car, but now you HAVE to buy health insurance.
I would have liked to seen insurance taken completely out of healthcare. It raises the cost of everything.
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I agree that you shouldn't have to have car insurance. Obamacare is altogether different though, because you don't have to own a car, but now you HAVE to buy health insurance.
I would have liked to seen insurance taken completely out of healthcare. It raises the cost of everything.
x8
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Putting a middleman where there doesn't need to be one. Didn't insurance start out as an extortion scam perpetrated by petty thugs in the 1st place, before it became legitimate business?
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Putting a middleman where there doesn't need to be one. Didn't insurance start out as an extortion scam perpetrated by petty thugs in the 1st place, before it became legitimate business?
Fire depts'/insurance were started before there was a need. ;D
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Obamacare? The Government Forcing people to buy a "product" from the private sector is the very definition of Fascism.
The Average Penalty for NOT choosing to buy Health Insurance will be around 1200 dollars by 2016.
Is this some great revelation to Obama voters?
It was CRYSTAL CLEAR prior to the election.
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Is this some great revelation to Obama voters?
It was CRYSTAL CLEAR prior to the election.
Romney was worse. :-\ Don`t forget his Healthcare Plan, Romneycare(although on a state level) is basically the same thing as Obamacare which is the same thing as Bob Dole`s Health Care Plan. Its all bad. Plus Romney`s assault weapons ban that he enacted will most likely be the same thing that is to come.
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http://spectator.org/archives/2009/04/17/the-car-insurance-scam
The Car Insurance Scam
By Eric Peters on 4.17.09 @ 6:06AM
There was once a time when drivers weren’t required to be insured.
There was a time when you didn’t have to buy car insurance. Risky? Reckless? Maybe. But one thing’s certain: All of us now have to spend exorbitant sums on insurance — whether we ever need it or not.
Consider a modest annual premium of $500. Over five years, that’s $2,500 spent on…nothing, if you never have an accident or need to file a claim. And that’s a good bet, incidentally. You probably know someone — perhaps yourself — who has gone 20 or 30 years without a singe at-fault accident. Yet over a ten-year period, such a blameless driver would nonetheless have had to fork over $5,000 in insurance premiums; $10,000 over 20 years.
That is no small change. It’s also money that could have gone to savings, investments, the kids’ college fund — any number of useful, productive things.
Instead, it’s flushed down the financial black hole of state-mandated insurance.
It’s little wonder many of us have no more than a few thousand bucks in the bank (if that). By the time we pay Uncle Stinker 0- who extracts not just federal taxes but also the weekly fraud payment to Social Insecurity amounting to 7.65 percent of every dollar we earn and which none of us under 40 will ever see again — plus state and local taxes and then all the forced insurance we’re made to buy, we’re broke.
I drove around for several years without insurance when it was still legal in my state to do so. (This was Virginia, early 1980s — when the dying embers of personal liberty still glowed a little bit.) I saved thousands of dollars. Never harmed a soul — or cost anyone a red cent.
But what about the risk to others of allowing people to drive without insurance? It’s a valid question. An equally valid answer is: Should the theoretical risk that an individual might damage someone else’s property or person impose a definite obligation on them to buy insurance “just in case”?
Put that way, things get clearer.
Arguably, the only time you or I should be forced to do anything is when it can be shown there is a direct, specific negative impact on others arising out of something we’ve done. Specifically, as individuals — not as members of a group based on age, sex or whatever.
Vague, generalized, broad-brush “risk” shouldn’t be sufficient cause for a legal corn-holing.
And speaking of which: What about the side effects of compulsory coverage?
For one, mandatory insurance cheats us all — because we’re all forced to do business with a cartel. When insurance is optional, insurers have to fight for our business as individuals. It’s much harder for them to shake us down at every turn over things like premium “surcharges” based on trumped-up speeding tickets. We can just say, No Thanks.
But when everyone has to buy a policy, the insurance cartels have us all by the soft parts. We’ve lost our leverage — and of course, they exploit it mercilessly.
It’s no coincidence that the cost of a typical insurance policy has increased obnoxiously since mandatory coverage went into effect over the past 20-25 years. Even “good drivers” who have never filed a claim or been involved in an at-fault accident are compelled to hand over hundreds, if not thousands, to the insurance mafiosi each and every year.
That money could have been set aside in a “rainy day” fund - and used to pay out expenses resulting from an accident. Assuming one actually happens, which statistically speaking, it probably won’t. And if it doesn’t, you’d still have your money — instead of the insurance cartel.
As far as the risk to others — the main argument used to defend forced coverage — it really comes down to whether you believe in liberty: Which is more important? Your ability (via the coercive apparatus of government) to force others to buy insurance against a small, theoretical risk to you that may and probably never will be needed? Or allowing individuals to decide for themselves what’s best - and leaving them free to act?
Sadly, too many of us no longer believe in liberty. The Fourth of July has become an absurdity — a holiday about “freedom” most of us aren’t even allowed to celebrate with fireworks we light off ourselves anymore. That would be risky, unsafe. Someone might get hurt. So naturally, it’s illegal in most parts of the country.
Just like not buying insurance.
About the Author
Eric Peters is an automotive columnist and author of Automotive Atrocities: The Cars You Love to Hate (Motor Books International) and a new book, Road Hogs.
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/04/17/the-car-insurance-scam
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In NC, if you have ANY lapse in Auto Coverage, you have to pay a fine. This was enacted by Republicans in our state. They are horrible.
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http://www.ncdot.gov/dmv/examples/
If there has been a break in coverage:
You must re-certify with the correct insurance information and submit the listed penalty amount within 10 days from the date of the letter in order to retain your license plate.
Civil penalties assessed for a lapse in liability insurance are based on the number of prior lapses you have had on your vehicle within three years of the current lapse. If this is your first lapse, your civil penalty will be $50.00. If this is your second lapse, your civil penalty will be $100.00. If you have more than two lapses, your civil penalty will be $150.00.
Failure to respond within the required time can result in the loss of your license plate for 30 days.
Re-licensing after loss of license plate:
In order to relicense after 30 days, you must:
Provide proof of insurance coverage Form FS-1 (which you can obtain from your insurance agent);
Pay a civil penalty fee of $50.00, $100.00 or $150.00 (depending on how many prior paid lapses you have General Statute 20-311).
Pay a $50.00 service fee;
And pay the appropriate license plate fee.
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I know this is a crazy idea, but imagine a mildly, socially liberal political party that was cool with gay marriage and abortion but didn't worship the the idea of diversity over ability. Imagine a party that appreciated libertarian ideas about limited government but didn't obsess over "chem trails" and "tower seven." Imagine a political party that believed fiscal responsibility can include short term safety nets for people in dire straights, but had no use for long term cradle to grave care.
Maybe it's a fairy tale :-\
It is a fairy tale. Sensible people don't throw money at politicians like the special interest groups that own both parties.
Also, 50% of the population is below average intelligence and half of the upper 50% are still retards.
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It is a fairy tale. Sensible people don't throw money at politicians like the special interest groups that own both parties.
Ok. Dr. Moebius.
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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
That's because you're a moron - hope this helps!
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Ok. Dr. Moebius.
Dr. Möbius, fuckface.
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Dr. Möbius, fuckface.
Spelling/grammar issues; anger management; and lack of of falcon control. 3/10
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Spelling/grammar issues; anger management; and lack of of falcon control. 3/10
My wife suffers from moebius syndrome so I don't appreciate a "dr" mocking her, fuckface.
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My wife suffers from moebius syndrome so I don't appreciate a "dr" mocking her, fuckface.
Roger. Roger. Anger management now augmented to 7'/10.
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lmfao at adonis thinking obama would give the slightest shit about him, or romney, or whoever else he "voted" for.
politicians act in the best interest of their corporate buddies and own interest.
not a single one gives a fuck about any voter.
biggest campaign financiers, thats who they care for.
not for ideology, left or right wing politics, let alone your vote and what you think of him.lol.
i hope this helps.
now can come some most idiotic politian oppurtunist fraudster along and defend the second ammendment and millions oxes would vote for him based on just that promise, and then theyd later on find themselves dissapointed about other stuff.
i can see a pattern here.
This, although it's the entire voting body, not just adonis.
These people dont give a fuck about any of us.
there are three parties in America, the rich, working class and the poor. and the rich are hell bent on making the working class into more poor people.
You really think the power brokers in Washington, the elite ruling class of this country, give a rat's ass about anyone but themselves ?
Look at what these assholes do these days. Back in the day at least they tried to be slick and keep up appearances about fucking everyone...now they are just like "yeah, we are just going to take these billions of dollars even through we royally fucked up, fuck you..do something about it"
"yeah, we are just going to pass laws that completely violate your civil rights and piss on the Constitution, no vote, no due process...fuck you..do something about it"
There's an old saying i like..."at least Jesse James put a gun in your face"
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This, although it's the entire voting body, not just adonis.
These people dont give a fuck about any of us.
there are three parties in America, the rich, working class and the poor. and the rich are hell bent on making the working class into more poor people.
You really think the power brokers in Washington, the elite ruling class of this country, give a rat's ass about anyone but themselves ?
Look at what these assholes do these days. Back in the day at least they tried to be slick and keep up appearances about fucking everyone...now they are just like "yeah, we are just going to take these billions of dollars even through we royally fucked up, fuck you..do something about it"
"yeah, we are just going to pass laws that completely violate your civil rights and piss on the Constitution, no vote, no due process...fuck you..do something about it"
So true. I usually make some political japes, but this is so true. Post-Reagan, we have seen the rich not only move the goal posts, income-wise, they've used their cash to distort the politico/socio discussion. The working, middle class, is now only a reference in a Springsteen song.
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So you guys are saying that the more progressive left we get, the shittier this country gets?
I'll agree.
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So you guys are saying that the more progressive left we get, the shittier this country gets?
I'll agree.
it sucks either way.
The Dems take a symbolic amount of money, in the grand scheme of things, and give it to poor people...republicans go batshit. but rich people aren't suddenly in the poor house
Repulicans take a symbolic amount of money, and give it to themselves, and Dems go batshit..but the poor still get their fucking food stamps and medical.
it's like this neverending struggle for 10% of the money, back and forth forever.... its not like anybody's life dramatically changes in a massive shift, no matter who is in office
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This, although it's the entire voting body, not just adonis.
These people dont give a fuck about any of us.
there are three parties in America, the rich, working class and the poor. and the rich are hell bent on making the working class into more poor people.
You really think the power brokers in Washington, the elite ruling class of this country, give a rat's ass about anyone but themselves ?
Look at what these assholes do these days. Back in the day at least they tried to be slick and keep up appearances about fucking everyone...now they are just like "yeah, we are just going to take these billions of dollars even through we royally fucked up, fuck you..do something about it"
"yeah, we are just going to pass laws that completely violate your civil rights and piss on the Constitution, no vote, no due process...fuck you..do something about it"
There's an old saying i like..."at least Jesse James put a gun in your face"
nobody gives a rat ass about anyone but loved ones. We dont care about people we have no conections with, we only care about people who are useful to our survival and ignore the rest. Religious people tend to care more about people outside of their families, while atheists dont even care about people in their own families anymore having been betrayed by them. Life is a giant free for all, and again we ignore those who have no ties with us, we are only interested in the survival -and submission- of people who are close to us, because our own survival depends of theirs, as simple as that. It has always been the same and will always be the same in the...animal kingdom, the rules of the game will never, ever, change.
By the way, globalization means middle and lower social classes of the whole planet are merged together; elites also merge together, but all in all it's always a question of classes strugle, the only difference now is that you re in competition not just with the neighbor, the male population of your town, city, or county for a job, but with all males from the whole fucking world. Rich people are still rich, poor people are still poor. There's a new trend tho emerging since the 2000s: the middle class in occident is getting poorer... Soon you ll have a hard time telling who s from the middle or poorest class. As i mentionned it earlier, if you dont own anything, at least a shelter, you re from the lower social class, in the big picture.
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This, although it's the entire voting body, not just adonis.
These people dont give a fuck about any of us.
there are three parties in America, the rich, working class and the poor. and the rich are hell bent on making the working class into more poor people.
You really think the power brokers in Washington, the elite ruling class of this country, give a rat's ass about anyone but themselves ?
Look at what these assholes do these days. Back in the day at least they tried to be slick and keep up appearances about fucking everyone...now they are just like "yeah, we are just going to take these billions of dollars even through we royally fucked up, fuck you..do something about it"
"yeah, we are just going to pass laws that completely violate your civil rights and piss on the Constitution, no vote, no due process...fuck you..do something about it"
There's an old saying i like..."at least Jesse James put a gun in your face"
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it sucks either way.
The Dems take a symbolic amount of money, in the grand scheme of things, and give it to poor people...republicans go batshit. but rich people aren't suddenly in the poor house
Repulicans take a symbolic amount of money, and give it to themselves, and Dems go batshit..but the poor still get their fucking food stamps and medical.
it's like this neverending struggle for 10% of the money, back and forth forever.... its not like anybody's life dramatically changes in a massive shift, no matter who is in office
Hmm. Actually, while all this floor show goes on, the rich get so much richer and the middle-class and poor have their standings eroded. :-\
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nobody gives a rat ass about anyone but loved ones. We dont care about people we have no conections with, we only care about people who are useful to our survival and ignore the rest. Religious people tend to care more about people outside of their families, while atheists dont even care about people in their own families anymore having been betrayed by them. Life is a giant free for all, and again we ignore those who have no ties with us, we are only interested in the survival -and submission- of people who are close to us, because our own survival depends of theirs, as simple as that. It has always been the same and will always be the same in the...animal kingdom, the rules of the game will never, ever, change.
::)
Bill Gates
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So you guys are saying that the more progressive left we get, the shittier this country gets?
I'll agree.
I wouldn`t call any of them Progressives at all. There are maybe 2 or 3 true Progressives in Government at this point. Look at this "Progressive"- She is making the Republican argument for Bob Dole Care (ObamaCare) that was pushed hard by the right wing in the 90s.
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nobody gives a rat ass about anyone but loved ones. We dont care about people we have no conections with, we only care about people who are useful to our survival and ignore the rest. Religious people tend to care more about people outside of their families, while atheists dont even care about people in their own families anymore having been betrayed by them. Life is a giant free for all, and again we ignore those who have no ties with us, we are only interested in the survival -and submission- of people who are close to us, because our own survival depends of theirs, as simple as that. It has always been the same and will always be the same in the...animal kingdom, the rules of the game will never, ever, change.
Uberman = Biggest idiot alive .
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Nothing new.
Its always been Socialism for the Rich, Capitalism for the Poor.
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Hmm. Actually, while all this floor show goes on, the rich get so much richer and the middle-class and poor have their standings eroded. :-\
Yes and no...I don't profess to be an expert, But i know that everybody i know, is basically in the same place they have always been...the rich fuckers are still rich..the dudes who work and hustle and make a living, are still making a living , and the broke ass losers are still broke ass losers.
The people who have the knack and always fall ass-backwards into money, will keep on doing it
The people who are competent, solid people with work ethic and responsibilty, always seem to land on their feet
and the guys who never made shit out of their life, are still kicking a can down the street
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billy gates helps black people from africa to survive, pay them drugs, pay them schools, but what does he do for white homeless, poor people of...the usa? Nothing. How comes ? This is pathetic. Now let's get in the details, the consequences of billy's good intentions...
The people in black africa who get vaccinated survive and reproduce even more than before, they re still as dumb as before, still having too many kids they cant feed... then they come in the first world, cause at the same time our "elites" opened our borders wide, so skinnies get in competiton for jobs with lower social classes of the host country, and it...lower salaries for everyone...who wins? Yeah, billy and his friends.
If these assholes didnt protect the skinnies, they would keep killing each others, but now we have millions -and growing- of blacks flooding europe and replacing white atheists who dont reproduce. Fact is, billy either has no clue what are the real consequences of what he s doing, or he s one huge cynical asshole. In the end, these people who arent able to control their birth rates shouldnt have kids they cant educate or feed, without billy and his need for attention and others assholes, these people would simply stay in the stone age. When they come in the west they dont even want to integrate themselves, but they replace natives openly and most are muslims.
Looks like things are a bit more complicated than you thought initially huh? AGAIN.
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The Health Care debacle is reason enough to regret it all. (no true Universal Healthcare, just pure Fascism-collusion between the Private Insurance Industry and Government) A Republican plan stolen from Bob Dole and Mitt Romney.
Then there is the gun debacle that is getting ready to happen.
And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
you crazy folks that voted for obama twice, slay me.
voting for him once......maybe....twice ......total joke.
just my opinion though.
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billy gates helps black people from africa to survive, pay them drugs, pay them schools, but what does he do for white homeless, poor people of...the usa? Nothing. How comes ? This is pathetic. Now let's get in the details, the consequences of billy's good intentions...
Also, the people in black africa who get vaccinated survive and reproduce even more than before, they re still as dumb as before, still having too many kids they cant feed... then they come in the first world, cause at the same time our "elites" opened our borders wide, so skinnies get in competiton for jobs with lower social classes of the host country, and it...lower salaries for everyone...who wins? Yeah, billy and his friends.
If these assholes didnt protect the skinnies, they would keep killing each others, but now we have millions -and growing- of blacks flooding europe and replacing white atheists who dont reproduce. Fact is, billy either has no clue what are the real consequences of what he s doing, or he s one huge cynical asshole. In the end, these people who arent able to control their birth rates shouldnt have kids they cant educate or feed, without billy and his need for attention and others assholes, these people would simply stay in the stone age. When they come in the west they dont even want to integrate themselves, but they replace natives openly and most are muslims.
Looks like things are a bit more complicated than you thought initially huh? AGAIN.
United States Program
Under President Allan Golston, the United States Program has made grants such as the following:
U.S. Libraries
In 1997, the foundation introduced a U.S. Libraries initiative with a goal of "ensuring that if you can get to a public library, you can reach the Internet." The foundation has given grants, installed computers and software, and provided training and technical support in partnership with public libraries nationwide.
Most recently, the foundation gave a US$12.2 million grant to the Southeastern Library Network (SOLINET) to assist libraries in Louisiana and Mississippi on the Gulf Coast, many of which were damaged or destroyed by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
Education
Smaller Schools
The Gates foundation claims one in five students is unable to read and grasp the contents of what they read, and African American and Latino students are graduating with the skills of a middle school student.[38] The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation has invested more than US$250 million in grants to create new small schools, reduce student-to-teacher ratios, and to divide up large high schools through the schools-within-a-school model.[38]
Cornell University
Faculty of Computing and Information Science received US$25 million from the Foundation for a new Information Science building which will be named the Bill and Melinda Gates Hall. The total cost of the building is expected to be US$60 million. Construction began in March 2012 and is expected to be completed by 2014.[39]
Carnegie Mellon University
The Foundation gave US$20 million to the Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science for a new Computer Science building which is named the Gates Center for Computer Science.[40] It officially opened on September 22, 2009.[41]
D.C. Achievers Scholarships
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announced March 22, 2007 a US$122 million initiative to send hundreds of the District of Columbia's poorest students to college.[42]
Gates Cambridge Scholarships
Donated US$210 million in October 2000 to help outstanding graduate students outside of the United Kingdom study at the University of Cambridge. Approximately 100 new students every year are funded.[43]
Gates Millennium Scholars
Administered by the United Negro College Fund, the foundation donated US$1.5 billion for scholarships to high achieving minority students.[44]
NewSchools Venture Fund
The Foundation contributed US$30 million to help NewSchools to manage more charter schools, which aim to prepare students in historically underserved areas for college and careers.
Strong American Schools
On April 25, 2007, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation joined forces with the Eli and Edythe Broad Foundation pledging a joint US$60 million to create Strong American Schools, a nonprofit project responsible for running ED in 08, an initiative and information campaign aimed at encouraging 2008 presidential contenders to include education in their campaign policies.[45]
Teaching Channel
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation announced in September 2011 a US$3.5 million initiative to launch a multi-platform service delivering professional development videos for teachers over the Internet, public television, cable and other digital outlets. [46]To date, over 13,500 teachers and educators have joined the community to share ideas, lesson plans and teaching methods.[47]
The Texas High School Project
The project was set out to increase and improve high school graduation rates across Texas. The foundation committed US$84.6 million to the project beginning in 2003. The THSP focuses its efforts on high-need schools and districts statewide, with an emphasis on urban areas and the Texas-Mexico border.[48]
University Scholars Program
Donated US$20 million in 1998 to endow a scholarship program at Melinda Gates' alma mater, Duke University.[49] The program provides full scholarships to about 10 members of each undergraduate class and one member in each class in each of the professional schools (schools of medicine, business, law, divinity, environment, nursing, and public policy), as well as to students in the Graduate School pursuing doctoral degrees in any discipline. Graduate and professional school scholars serve as mentors to the undergraduate scholars, who are chosen on the basis of financial need and potential for interdisciplinary academic interests. Scholars are chosen each spring from new applicants to Duke University's undergraduate, graduate, and professional school programs. The program features seminars to bring these scholars together for interdisciplinary discussions and an annual spring symposium organized by the scholars.
Washington State Achievers Scholarship
The Washington State Achievers program encourages schools to create cultures of high academic achievement while providing scholarship support to select college-bound students.
William H. Gates Public Service Law Program
This program awards five full scholarships annually to the University of Washington School of Law. Scholars commit to working in relatively low-paying public service legal positions for at least the first five years following graduation.[50]
Pacific Northwest
Discovery Institute
Donated US$1 million in 2000 to the Discovery Institute and pledged US$9.35 million over 10 years in 2003, including US$50,000 of Bruce Chapman's US$141,000 annual salary. According to a Gates Foundation grant maker, this grant is "exclusive to the Cascadia project" on regional transportation, and it may not be used for the Institute's other activities, including promotion of intelligent design.[citation needed]
Rainier Scholars
Donated US$1 million
Computer History Museum
Donated US$15 million to the museum in October 2005.[51]
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billy gates helps black people from africa to survive, pay them drugs, pay them schools, but what does he do for white homeless, poor people of...the usa? Nothing. How comes ? This is pathetic. Now let's get in the details, the consequences of billy's good intentions...
Also, the people in black africa who get vaccinated survive and reproduce even more than before, they re still as dumb as before, still having too many kids they cant feed... then they come in the first world, cause at the same time our "elites" opened our borders wide, so skinnies get in competiton for jobs with lower social classes of the host country, and it...lower salaries for everyone...who wins? Yeah, billy and his friends.
If these assholes didnt protect the skinnies, they would keep killing each others, but now we have millions -and growing- of blacks flooding europe and replacing white atheists who dont reproduce. Fact is, billy either has no clue what are the real consequences of what he s doing, or he s one huge cynical asshole. In the end, these people who arent able to control their birth rates shouldnt have kids they cant educate or feed, without billy and his need for attention and others assholes, these people would simply stay in the stone age. When they come in the west they dont even want to integrate themselves, but they replace natives openly and most are muslims.
Looks like things are a bit more complicated than you thought initially huh? AGAIN.
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/united-states/Pages/program-overview.aspx
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:D
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:D
Hey, more Nigra jpegs from our resident Getbig idiot. What a surprise. :)
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Hey, more Nigra jpegs from our resident Getbig idiot. What a surprise. :)
He does have a point though.
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He does have a point though.
One perceivable throughout all his race nonsense? Intradasting.
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One perceivable throughout all his race nonsense? Intradasting.
Everyone gets the point - screw off w your leftist gun grabbing bs
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Everyone gets the point - screw off w your leftist gun grabbing bs
Hi Simp. How can someone be so stupid that they can't realize how stupid they are? Maybe you can help with this question. Thanks much. :)
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Hi Simp. How can someone be so stupid that they can't realize how stupid they are? Maybe you can help with this question. Thanks much. :)
I have to say - other than FAGbear - you are probably the worst poster on this site bar none
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I have to say - other than FAGbear - you are probably the worst poster on this site bar none
I'll take worst poster any day over least intelligent. MORON. :)
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I'll take worst poster any day over least intelligent. MORON. :)
you are a funny guy Monkey Ass
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I have to say - other than FAGbear - you are probably the worst poster on this site bar none
Wow, I must be deep in your head.
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Wow, I must be deep in your head.
You are deep in those kids no? Why else yo hiding out in Chink world from your pedo tendencies?
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You are deep in those kids no? Why else yo hiding out in Chink world from your pedo tendencies?
Says the racist hiding out in Blacktown.
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Says the racist hiding out in Blacktown.
Im not hiding out anywhere. I live in and am in the Bronx most of the time and know the ways of the street and the savages more than most.
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Im not hiding out anywhere. I live in and am in the Bronx most of the time and know the ways of the street and the savages more than most.
You are cracking me up. ;D
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You are cracking me up. ;D
Any time you want you pedo pos - 233rd and Webster Ave.
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You are cracking me up. ;D
I love it when he speaks 'Negro.'
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Any time you want you pedo pos - 233rd and Webster Ave.
I wouldn't dare mess with someone who knows the ways of the streets.
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I wouldn't dare mess with someone who knows the ways of the streets.
Go stay w the kiddies in communist China where you wont face justice
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Go stay w the kiddies in communist China where you wont face justice
How much have you had to drink tonight, sir?
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How much have you had to drink tonight, sir?
PIP said it best - this really isn't the forum for you. Why do you bother?
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How much have you had to drink tonight, sir?
I think NAMBLA is a better place for you.
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YES
We need Fiscal Conservatives that are Socially Liberal.
(http://i.qkme.me/3q9ert.jpg)
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Says the racist hiding out in Blacktown.
lol!
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:D
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:D ;D
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And now there is nonsensical stuff like this:
http://kotaku.com/5975012/joe-biden-will-meet-with-video-gamings-chief-lobbyist-on-friday
This Friday, Joe Biden Will Talk School Shootings With The Video Game Industry
Trump also blamed the video games industry https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-trump-suggests-video-games-blame-mass-shootings-n1039411