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Oct 4, 2012
(http://www.dat-e-baseonline.com/images/Logos/rr/10.04.2012_pants_on_fire.jpg)This debate performance will make a lot of people take a second look at Mitt Romney. That’s not necesarily a good thing for Mitt—the closer people look at him, the less they like. Mitt got good reviews, but we have to wait for what President Obama said to sink in, and for what Mitt Romney said to sink, period. Mitt Romney seems to be an experiment in just how far a complete fraud can go. I thought we settled that with George W. Bush—and the scary part about that experiment was that the answer was “two terms as president.”
Most of what Mitt Romney said last night has already been contradicted—sometimes by Democrats, sometime by Mitt’s own staff, and always by the facts. If Obama’s strategy was questionable, at least his facts were not. You can certainly question Obama’s approach, but you can’t question what he said. You can and should question every statement Mitt Romney made.
Mitt claims that his $5 trillion tax cut would be paid for by the extra earnings resulting from robust growth. In other words, for his plan to work, it has to succeed beyond anybody’s wildest expectations. I don’t think you get it, Mitt—the plan is supposed to be the thing that makes everything better. It shouldn’t be dependent on everything getting better before it will work.
The only thing that made Mitt Romney’s lies about his tax plan look small were Mitt’s lies about healthcare. Mitt said his plan would cover people with preexisting conditions. Yes... as long as they also have preexisting health insurance. Mitt’s plan doesn’t provide coverage for people who have lost their insurance. I’m not an expert, but aren’t those the people who need insurance? Mitt kept saying that he wants the individual states to do for healthcare what he did in Massachusetts. There’s a brilliant idea! Why accomplish something by doing it once when you can get it done by doing it 50 times?
We know one thing from last night’s debate—if Mitt Romney wins, Big Bird is fricassee. Come on, Mitt! Sesame Street teaches kids to count. Hey! Maybe that’s why Mitt Romney doesn’t like it.
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Lol. Your boy got spanked Benny. End of story.
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I am not sure.
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Lehrer’s debate moderation mauled by critics
By Dylan Stableford,
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Lehrer looks over his notes before the first presidential debate, Oct. 3, 2012, in Denver. (AP/Pool)
It was a rough night for President Barack Obama and Big Bird at the first of three presidential debates. It was even worse for Jim Lehrer.
The 78-year-old moderator, who is executive editor and former anchor of "PBS NewsHour," was torn apart by critics who said he lost control of the debate, held at the University of Denver, as the two candidates talked over him throughout the 90-minute exchange.
The trouble began early, when Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney interrupted Lehrer—moderating his 12th presidential debate—as he tried to change topics.
"I get the last word of this segment," Romney said.
"Romney just ran right over Lehrer," tweeted Dana Loesch, the conservative radio talk show host.
The New York Times' Ashley Parker described it as a steamroll.
Some compared Lehrer, who came out of semiretirement to moderate Wednesday's debate, to NFL replacement officials. Others said he was like a rug or, worse, an empty chair.
"Lehrer has completely lost it," Reuters' Felix Salmon wrote.
"I feel badly for Jim Lehrer tonight," The Washington Post's Ezra Klein tweeted.
It wasn't long before "Poor Jim" began trending on Twitter.
"Regardless of who you think is winning," ABC News legal analyst Dan Abrams wrote on Twitter, "Jim Lehrer is losing."
"New drinking game," he added. "When Jim Lehrer is ignored ... DRINK!"
BuzzFeed promptly produced a sizzle reel of Lehrer's pummeling.
Lehrer's "open-ended questions frequently lacked sharpness," Associated Press television critic David Bauder wrote, noting that at one point Lehrer asked Romney, "Would you have a question you'd like to ask the president about what he just said?"
"I wondered if we needed a moderator since we had Mitt Romney," Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter said on CNN.
"It's likely that he knew most of his efforts to move the candidates off their talking points were going to fail," USA Today's Robert Bianco wrote. "Which might be why, fairly quickly in, he seemed to give up."
Bianco was one of the few critics who defended him:
To be fair, the format put Lehrer in an almost impossible situation. If you give the candidates free rein, as he pretty much did, you end up with a debate that wanders, sometimes incomprehensibly, from surface point to surface point. If you step in too often, you risk grabbing the focus at an event that is supposed to be centered on the two candidates—and you get slammed as biased by whichever candidate suffers under your tighter control.
"Still," he added, "some control might have been nice. Perhaps Lehrer can keep that in mind if a 13th debate comes his way."
That may not happen.
As CNN contributor Erick Erickson tweeted: "I think it is safe to say last night was the last debate Jim Lehrer will moderate."
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Romney to Obama: ‘No Idea What You're Talking About’ on Tax Breaks for Outsourcing
“Right now, you can actually take a deduction for moving a plant overseas,” President Barack Obama said at Wednesday night’s debate in Denver. “I think most Americans would say that doesn’t make sense.”
“Look, I've been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you're talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant.”
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Liberal denial is bitch eh Benny. Hahaha. Lmao at Obama trying.to.school Obummer on.business hahahaha. Even a CNN poll shows Obama getting ass handed to him by 67%. Lol
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Benny, check the minutes talks by each candidate, Obama spoke for longer. Conversely, Romney spoke more words. What does that say? Obama fumbled and stuttered his way to defeat in his first debate. Facts are facts, he spoke longer than Romney, and that was the only negative to the mediator, as far as keeping control.
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Obama held back. He did NOT want to get nasty.
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Obama held back. He did NOT want to get nasty.
No, Obama could defend his record.
*couldn't
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I just saw it as him being classy. My party? Rebublican. NO bias here.
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Lol. Your boy got spanked Benny. End of story.
Obama lost on style, true. However, he won on not being a bold face liar.
You need to worry about "YOUR boy" being able to sustain his reversal on practically ever position he's held over the last 18 months. Don't see how you could support a guy like that. :-\
Oh, and Romney's STILL going to lose. ;D ;)
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Obama lost on style, true. However, he won on not being a bold face liar.
You need to worry about "YOUR boy" being able to sustain his reversal on practically ever position he's held over the last 18 months. Don't see how you could support a guy like that. :-\
Oh, and Romney's STILL going to lose. ;D ;)
Haha.
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I still do NOT know who is going to win. I am GOP. I like Obama. I love the USA.
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Obama got trucked...on style and substance. He appeared weak, disorganized and ill prepared...it's the perfect summation of his Presidency. That's why I'm so stunned that people expected him to do a better job...when has he shown the ability to be anything approaching even mediocre?
At about the 10 minute mark you can see him thinking "when we finish moving to Hawaii...will I put the statue of myself out front or in the main courtyard?"
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Obama lost on style, true. However, he won on not being a bold face liar.
You need to worry about "YOUR boy" being able to sustain his reversal on practically ever position he's held over the last 18 months. Don't see how you could support a guy like that. :-\
Oh, and Romney's STILL going to lose. ;D ;)
I don't have a boy dude. I don't like Romney, and I hate Obama.
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I still do NOT know who is going to win. I am GOP. I like Obama. I love the USA.
Why do you like Obama?
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Romney to Obama: ‘No Idea What You're Talking About’ on Tax Breaks for Outsourcing
“Right now, you can actually take a deduction for moving a plant overseas,” President Barack Obama said at Wednesday night’s debate in Denver. “I think most Americans would say that doesn’t make sense.”
“Look, I've been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you're talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant.”
He could have just completely owned Obama if he had said "Well you have't four years to fix that, why haven't you done anything about it?"
That would have shut him up, even if it was true or not (regarding the tax break).
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OBAMA was just a wee bit distracted....
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1) Moderator was 78 years old and out of it, period.
2) Obama looked exhausted and tired. Needs a week at the spa before the next debate
3) Romney looked well-rested and healthy and vibrant.
4) Romney did say a lot of things that were contradicted by his earlier statements - but if you are a fan of politics, you already know this - Romney will say anything to any room at any time.
Obama was playing a DEFENSIVE GAME. he's leading by solid amounts in 9 of the 11 swing states. Romney has a HUGE path to take to get to the win, it's gonna be very very tough witohut OH or PENN where he is trailing badly. So Obama shows up, gives a boring, non-passionate performance with no major blunders, just letting Mitt talk nonstop with plenty of ammo to be used against him. Obama takes 1 day of bad headlines, and it's over. Romney just put out ten EASILY PROVABLE lies for no reason other than pleasing the room.
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OBAMA was just a wee bit distracted....
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Lmao ;D
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I just have a gut feeling that he is a good person. That he cares about the USA. Carter too. I HATE Bill C.
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Obama had ANALversary that night , It was throwing off his game
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NO one could have saved the USA in these last four years.
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Romney to Obama: ‘No Idea What You're Talking About’ on Tax Breaks for Outsourcing
“Right now, you can actually take a deduction for moving a plant overseas,” President Barack Obama said at Wednesday night’s debate in Denver. “I think most Americans would say that doesn’t make sense.”
“Look, I've been in business for 25 years. I have no idea what you're talking about. I maybe need to get a new accountant.”
(http://www.ourchangingglobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/obama-in-trouble.jpg)
I guess the sad thing is Romney has been in business for 25 years and hasn't heard that a company can claim a deduction for the costs associated with moving jobs overseas(i.e closing a plant and then relocating to and overseas location).
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/04/fact-check-tax-break-for-shipping-jobs-overseas/#ixzz28NLRHvVt
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Benny, check the minutes talks by each candidate, Obama spoke for longer. Conversely, Romney spoke more words. What does that say? Obama fumbled and stuttered his way to defeat in his first debate. Facts are facts, he spoke longer than Romney, and that was the only negative to the mediator, as far as keeping control.
I already know this...I do not need to check anything.
Bottom line, Romney did a great job running roughshod over Lehrer, who did a lousy job. Of that, there is no doubt. Romney made sure to be aggressive and dominate the discourse, the moderator let him get away with it, and Obama did not fight back by pointing out his lies.
Romney's domination of the moderator allowed him to keep topics like women's issues, immigration, his obfuscation of his own taxes, etc., off the agenda. Its possible Lehrer did not even have them as topics for debate, which would be even worse!
Again...Lehrer did a TERRIBLE job.
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Lehrer was too ancient
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Obama got trucked...on style and substance. He appeared weak, disorganized and ill prepared...it's the perfect summation of his Presidency. That's why I'm so stunned that people expected him to do a better job...when has he shown the ability to be anything approaching even mediocre?
At about the 10 minute mark you can see him thinking "when we finish moving to Hawaii...will I put the statue of myself out front or in the main courtyard?"
Romeny had better style overall and appeared more assertive.
The reality is I still prefer Obama's plan for taxes, the economy and healthcare over Romeny.
I like medicare "as is" and don't want to get a voucher when I hit 65 to help pay for health care.
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Great post, Howard.
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Lol. Your boy got spanked Benny. End of story.
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NINJA PLEASE.....THAT'S YOUR PENDING UNEMPLOYMENT YOU SMELL.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH HA......OBAMA GOT ASS KICKED AND SENT HOME CRYING!!!!!!!!!
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The Hierarchy has the technology to implant a device in Obama's (ear-head) and have Bill Clinton coach him through the next debate. However getting Bill to do that is two different things.
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Oct 4, 2012
(http://www.dat-e-baseonline.com/images/Logos/rr/10.04.2012_pants_on_fire.jpg)This debate performance will make a lot of people take a second look at Mitt Romney. That’s not necesarily a good thing for Mitt—the closer people look at him, the less they like. Mitt got good reviews, but we have to wait for what President Obama said to sink in, and for what Mitt Romney said to sink, period. Mitt Romney seems to be an experiment in just how far a complete fraud can go. I thought we settled that with George W. Bush—and the scary part about that experiment was that the answer was “two terms as president.”
Most of what Mitt Romney said last night has already been contradicted—sometimes by Democrats, sometime by Mitt’s own staff, and always by the facts. If Obama’s strategy was questionable, at least his facts were not. You can certainly question Obama’s approach, but you can’t question what he said. You can and should question every statement Mitt Romney made.
Mitt claims that his $5 trillion tax cut would be paid for by the extra earnings resulting from robust growth. In other words, for his plan to work, it has to succeed beyond anybody’s wildest expectations. I don’t think you get it, Mitt—the plan is supposed to be the thing that makes everything better. It shouldn’t be dependent on everything getting better before it will work.
The only thing that made Mitt Romney’s lies about his tax plan look small were Mitt’s lies about healthcare. Mitt said his plan would cover people with preexisting conditions. Yes... as long as they also have preexisting health insurance. Mitt’s plan doesn’t provide coverage for people who have lost their insurance. I’m not an expert, but aren’t those the people who need insurance? Mitt kept saying that he wants the individual states to do for healthcare what he did in Massachusetts. There’s a brilliant idea! Why accomplish something by doing it once when you can get it done by doing it 50 times?
We know one thing from last night’s debate—if Mitt Romney wins, Big Bird is fricassee. Come on, Mitt! Sesame Street teaches kids to count. Hey! Maybe that’s why Mitt Romney doesn’t like it.
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Oct 4, 2012
(http://www.dat-e-baseonline.com/images/Logos/rr/10.04.2012_pants_on_fire.jpg)This debate performance will make a lot of people take a second look at Mitt Romney. That’s not necesarily a good thing for Mitt—the closer people look at him, the less they like. Mitt got good reviews, but we have to wait for what President Obama said to sink in, and for what Mitt Romney said to sink, period. Mitt Romney seems to be an experiment in just how far a complete fraud can go. I thought we settled that with George W. Bush—and the scary part about that experiment was that the answer was “two terms as president.”
Most of what Mitt Romney said last night has already been contradicted—sometimes by Democrats, sometime by Mitt’s own staff, and always by the facts. If Obama’s strategy was questionable, at least his facts were not. You can certainly question Obama’s approach, but you can’t question what he said. You can and should question every statement Mitt Romney made.
Mitt claims that his $5 trillion tax cut would be paid for by the extra earnings resulting from robust growth. In other words, for his plan to work, it has to succeed beyond anybody’s wildest expectations. I don’t think you get it, Mitt—the plan is supposed to be the thing that makes everything better. It shouldn’t be dependent on everything getting better before it will work.
The only thing that made Mitt Romney’s lies about his tax plan look small were Mitt’s lies about healthcare. Mitt said his plan would cover people with preexisting conditions. Yes... as long as they also have preexisting health insurance. Mitt’s plan doesn’t provide coverage for people who have lost their insurance. I’m not an expert, but aren’t those the people who need insurance? Mitt kept saying that he wants the individual states to do for healthcare what he did in Massachusetts. There’s a brilliant idea! Why accomplish something by doing it once when you can get it done by doing it 50 times?
We know one thing from last night’s debate—if Mitt Romney wins, Big Bird is fricassee. Come on, Mitt! Sesame Street teaches kids to count. Hey! Maybe that’s why Mitt Romney doesn’t like it.
The only thing on fire was Obama's backside, after Romney took the strap to it last night. Nice Try.
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Obama lost on style, true. However, he won on not being a bold face liar.
You need to worry about "YOUR boy" being able to sustain his reversal on practically ever position he's held over the last 18 months. Don't see how you could support a guy like that. :-\
Oh, and Romney's STILL going to lose. ;D ;)
LOL!!!!
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Romeny had better style overall and appeared more assertive.
The reality is I still prefer Obama's plan for taxes, the economy and healthcare over Romeny.
I like medicare "as is" and don't want to get a voucher when I hit 65 to help pay for health care.
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Medicare as is going broke and obama stole 700 billion from it
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i like how the right has gotten all gitty on the debates last night but today the story is on how much romney lied last night ;D
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i like how the right has gotten all gitty on the debates last night but today the story is on how much romney lied last night ;D
Sorry - story is how badly obama is without the teleprompter and msm sucking his cock
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Sorry - story is how badly obama is without the teleprompter and msm sucking his cock
wrong again,.. but that is to be expected from you. last night romney won but today the story is the fact checking and how romney lied,but rush isn't going to tell you that :D :D
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Because they know Romney is a time bomb waiting to blow that will give Obama a second term on a platter.
I fucking hate romney.
Romney's campaign is a complete mess.
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Your douchbag president got his ass kicked because he assumed all he would have to do was show up...kinda like the last 4 years or pretty much all of his life, barry the magic negro shows up and the self loathing libs just bend over for him.....sorry benny but that didn't happen last night. Storp crying about the refs...stof whining about the debate format, he lost. I'm sure he'll do better next time...see below.
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wrong again,.. but that is to be expected from you. last night romney won but today the story is the fact checking and how romney lied,but rush isn't going to tell you that :D :D
PLEASE!!! You're parroting the MSNBC talking points, as they were breaking out the sackcloth and ashes to explain away that beating Obama took.
If Romney were supposedly lying, Obama should have been easily able to refute Romney's points. He couldn't; he had the deer-in-the-headlight look almost the entire night.
Yet, when Obama kept spewing HIS falsehoods about Romney's plans, Romney cut them to ribbons, time and time again.
Spin it anyway you like. Obama got clobbered, pure and simple. No thrill up the leg for Chris Matthews or for you.
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lies in the debate don't matter. There is no punishment for it. You say whatever you need to grab those idiot 2% of voters that have no idea what's true.
both parties do it, as they should. Any 'low info' voters that vote based upon a 90 minute TV special, and not issues they've really research, deserve to be duped.
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Here's the TRICKY part about the media companies that gave Romney the WIN. Getbiggers quoted them like crazy. "Even HuffPo and Politico agree Romney lost".
Then, when these organizations point out the LIES in the debate - suddenly these organizations are lying/wrong... even when they can provide VIDEO EVIDENCE of romney's lies.
The HONEST thing to do - is to admit Romney told some lies, but that it is just part of winning debates - selling a few quick sound bites to the ignorant swing voters taht decide their vote based upon a few tv debates.
Snow White, Superman and Pinocchio are walking along.
They see a sign: "Contest for World's Most Beautiful Woman." Snow White goes in, later comes out smiling, wearing a crown.
They walk along and see another sign: "Contest for World's Strongest Man." Superman goes in, later comes out smiling, wearing the belt.
They walk along and see a sign: "Contest for World's Greatest Liar." Pinocchio goes in, later comes out with his head down crying.
"Who the hell is Mitt Romney?" Pinocchio sobs.
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PLEASE!!! You're parroting the MSNBC talking points, as they were breaking out the sackcloth and ashes to explain away that beating Obama took.
If Romney were supposedly lying, Obama should have been easily able to refute Romney's points. He couldn't; he had the deer-in-the-headlight look almost the entire night.
Yet, when Obama kept spewing HIS falsehoods about Romney's plans, Romney cut them to ribbons, time and time again.
Spin it anyway you like. Obama got clobbered, pure and simple. No thrill up the leg for Chris Matthews or for you.
if you don't like the truth move along,fact is alot of what romney said was bullshit and it's going to keep coming out in the next few days.so like i said romney won that night because he told the people what they wanted to hear but as the days go on people will see him for what he is.you won't because you get your news from rush and hannidy but just a small % of people get their news from rush most people get their news from reliable sources ;D
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If Romney were supposedly lying, Obama should have been easily able to refute Romney's points.
Dude,
All kidding aside,
There is plenty of video to show Romney's statements directly contradicted some of his past statemnts from this year.
This isn't debateable. Not one bit. He said last night he was not going to cut tax rates for the very wealthy - a very popular position and statement with swing voters.
There is video saying the EXACT opposite, just a few months ago.
Not msnbc talking points - it's romney's own words.
if you deny this, i'm sad for you, because it's not debateable man.
We can say it's cool for him to pander in this debate, cause it sure is - it is a debate and that's fine to pander.
but MCWAY, at this point, you can't deny it - 19 seconds - his OWN WORDS.
Watch those 19 seconds and PLEASE comment, man.
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Dude,
All kidding aside,
There is plenty of video to show Romney's statements directly contradicted some of his past statemnts from this year.
This isn't debateable. Not one bit. He said last night he was not going to cut tax rates for the very wealthy - a very popular position and statement with swing voters.
There is video saying the EXACT opposite, just a few months ago.
Not msnbc talking points - it's romney's own words.
if you deny this, i'm sad for you, because it's not debateable man.
We can say it's cool for him to pander in this debate, cause it sure is - it is a debate and that's fine to pander.
but MCWAY, at this point, you can't deny it - 19 seconds - his OWN WORDS.
Watch those 19 seconds and PLEASE comment, man.
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if it's not on rush or hannidy they're not seeing it ;D
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if you don't like the truth move along,fact is alot of what romney said was bullshit and it's going to keep coming out in the next few days.so like i said romney won that night because he told the people what they wanted to hear but as the days go on people will see him for what he is.you won't because you get your news from rush and hannidy but just a small % of people get their news from rush most people get their news from reliable sources ;D
I get my news from multiple sources, number one (including Hannity and Limbaugh)
Number two, virtually every news source has proclaimed that Romney slapped Obama silly Wednesday night.
Number three, you want to talk about lying, how about OBAMA'S OWN DEPUTY CAMPAIGN MANAGER, Stephanie Cutter (who been busted for lying so many time, particularly about Romney, that it's absurd) flat-out admitted that Obama's yapping about Romney giving a $5 trillion tax cut was bogus.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/04/cutter_concedes_5_trillion_attack_on_romney_is_not_true.html
Number four, IF Romney was lying, Obama could have and should have easily been able to put Romney down. Obama got the brakes beaten off him.
And, finally, number 5: Like the delusional kneepadder you are, you conveniently ignore that fact that Romney SHREDDED every single barb Obama threw at him.
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if it's not on rush or hannidy they're not seeing it ;D
MCWAY, I disagreed with you on the cain stuff, but you were right - he never 'technically' got caught cheating, but did admit lying about paying that lez $ for 11 years - we disagreed but I admire your ability to admit facts.
please watch that 19 seconds - did romney DIRECtLY contradict himself in that debate?
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Number four, IF Romney was lying, Obama could have and should have easily been able to put Romney down. Obama got the brakes beaten off him.
Just beacuse obama was a hapless mess, sleepy and tired and burned out, doesnt change the fact that romney has 2 positions in these 19 seconds.
Do you agree he contracticted himself?
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MCWAY, I disagreed with you on the cain stuff, but you were right - he never 'technically' got caught cheating, but did admit lying about paying that lez $ for 11 years - we disagreed but I admire your ability to admit facts.
please watch that 19 seconds - did romney DIRECtLY contradict himself in that debate?
Just beacuse obama was a hapless mess, sleepy and tired and burned out, doesnt change the fact that romney has 2 positions in these 19 seconds.
Do you agree he contracticted himself?
If you cut EVERYONE'S SHARE by 20%, the rich still pay the same proportion they are now. Obama's entire claim about taxes is that he will decrease what the rich pay and increase what the middle class pay.
That's simply not the case.
Of course, neither you nor Blacken (big shock about the latter ::) ) have addressed Obama's $5 trillion tax cut accusations on Romney, which Cutter admitted was false.
To top it all off, this was supposed to be a cakewalk for Obama. After all, the brilliant intelligent one was going against the winner of the "worst GOP field in history". If anyone was supposed to get beat down, it was Romney.
Instead, Obama got clobbered. And, 12 or so hours after the debate, he cries like a baby in front of his supporters that he didn't face the "real" Mitt Romney.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/04/krauthammer_on_obamas_debate_performance_he_isnt_half_as_intelligent_as_he_thinks_he_is.html
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It's called selective editing
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It's called selective editing
if it was, i'd own up immediately.
It looks to me that he said what he needed to in the primary to win the top 1% donation and votes.
Now he's saying what he needs to in the national debate to win those undecided 2% of dummies.
Which i'm okay with. I just like when getbig is totally honest. It's edited, but he's saying (very clearly by the way) two opposite statements about taxing the top 1%.
And I call obama for his dishonesty, so I call romney for it too. I respect any man that'll admit "oh yeah, they're both hold-faced lying".
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It's called selective editing
:D :D :D :D :D more like romney kneepadding ;D
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if it was, i'd own up immediately.
It looks to me that he said what he needed to in the primary to win the top 1% donation and votes.
Now he's saying what he needs to in the national debate to win those undecided 2% of dummies.
Which i'm okay with. I just like when getbig is totally honest. It's edited, but he's saying (very clearly by the way) two opposite statements about taxing the top 1%.
And I call obama for his dishonesty, so I call romney for it too. I respect any man that'll admit "oh yeah, they're both hold-faced lying".
Ah bullshit, It is a deliberate misrepresentation, by omission......... You fucking know it so knock if off
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Ah bullshit, It is a deliberate misrepresentation, by omission......... You fucking know it so knock if off
Again, neither 240 nor Blacken have mention the distortion with Obama's claim, not even when Obama's own deputy campaign manager admitted that there's no $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy.
Notice also on the video that she's actually UPSET over the prospect of EVERYONE'S taxes being lowered.
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Again, neither 240 nor Blacken have mention the distortion with Obama's claim, not even when Obama's own deputy campaign manager admitted that there's no $5 trillion tax cut for the wealthy.
Notice also on the video that she's actually UPSET over the prospect of EVERYONE'S taxes being lowered.
And they call Mitt a liar. People in glass houses...
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And they call Mitt a liar. People in glass houses...
It's just crying over the fact that Obama got killed Wednesday night.
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a talking snake told me :D :D
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It's just crying over the fact that Obama got killed Wednesday night.
I don't think he did in substance, but style yes. Romney flip flopped like he always does and repeated lies that have already been debunked. he even appears to have cheated
he has no honour.
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I don't think he did in substance, but style yes. Romney flip flopped like he always does and repeated lies that have already been debunked. he even appears to have cheated
he has no honour.
don't bother he gets his news from rush and hannidy ;D
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he has no honour.
He's a politician numbnuts. Like Obama or any other politician has any honor. ::)
They all lie, cheat, and steal to maintain their position of money and power.
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I don't think he did in substance, but style yes. Romney flip flopped like he always does and repeated lies that have already been debunked. he even appears to have cheated
he has no honour.
Romney killed him in substance, style, and pretty much every category you can list. Once again, if Romney were doing all this alleged lying, why couldn't the BRILLIANT Obama call him on it?
On the other hand, when Obama kept spewing nonsense, Romney cut him to pieces, REPEATEDLY. Or, as James Carville put it, he brought a chainsaw to the debate.
When he kept trying to blame Bush, Romney dragged him right back centerstage and clobbered Obama with his own record. Obama was beaten senseless. You know it; I know it, that spineless goof Blacken knows it; the country knows it; even Chris "Thrill up my leg" Matthews was wailing about this massacre.
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don't bother he gets his news from rush and hannidy ;D
Says the goof who gets his news from the red-headed stepchild of cable news. But, the saddest part it, even the MSNBC hacks admitted Obama got pounded Wednesday night.
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Romney killed him in substance, style, and pretty much every category you can list. Once again, if Romney were doing all this alleged lying, why couldn't the BRILLIANT Obama call him on it?
On the other hand, when Obama kept spewing nonsense, Romney cut him to pieces, REPEATEDLY. Or, as James Carville put it, he brought a chainsaw to the debate.
When he kept trying to blame Bush, Romney dragged him right back centerstage and clobbered Obama with his own record. Obama was beaten senseless. You know it; I know it, that spineless goof Blacken knows it; the country knows it; even Chris "Thrill up my leg" Matthews was wailing about this massacre.
funny one of the jesus crew has no problem with romney lying,wow who would have thought :D :D :D :D
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Romney killed him in substance, style, and pretty much every category you can list. Once again, if Romney were doing all this alleged lying, why couldn't the BRILLIANT Obama call him on it?
Eh, that's a very poor defense. If your opponent doesn't catch it, then you didn't lie?
Come on, when obama comes out in that foreign policy debate, and he starts spinning like a top on Libya, egypt... are you giong to to concede every lie that gets past romney in a fast-paced debate full of 30 second time limitations/ Of course not.
People lie in debates all the time. The experts fact check with previous video and releases. Just because the other candidate doesn't nail down 27 falsehoods in the quick time window they're trying to make their own points.? faulty logic.
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Eh, that's a very poor defense. If your opponent doesn't catch it, then you didn't lie?
Or there was nothing to catch and your opponent just got owned.
Come on, when obama comes out in that foreign policy debate, and he starts spinning like a top on Libya, egypt... are you giong to to concede every lie that gets past romney in a fast-paced debate full of 30 second time limitations/ Of course not.
People lie in debates all the time. The experts fact check with previous video and releases. Just because the other candidate doesn't nail down 27 falsehoods in the quick time window they're trying to make their own points.? faulty logic.
What's poor is your diatribe on this. Romney cut Obama's false claims to pieces virtually all night long, even on ObamaCare (the very issue that, heretofore was Romney's biggest weakness).
Every strawman, that Obama erected, Romney burned down.....EASILY.
Yet, when Obama's inaccuracies get exposed, you and Blacken get mute.
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funny one of the jesus crew has no problem with romney lying,wow who would have thought Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Obama's campaign manager admits the president's claim about Romney's tax plan is false; and Blacken doesn't have the sack to address this....who would have thought? ::)
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Obama's campaign manager admits the president's claim about Romney's tax plan is false; and Blacken doesn't have the sack to address this....who would have thought? ::)
shit ,by your standards i'm a better chirstain then you are :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D lies are a ok with mcway
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shit ,by your standards i'm a better chirstain then you are :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D lies are a ok with mcway
Hardly!! You clammed up during Obama's lying about Libya. You're mush-mouthed about Cutter's admission about the $5 trillion tax cut being false.
Of course, we all know why: You're trying to deflect and feebly gloss over the fact that Obama got creamed Wednesday night.
Now, are you going to continue to show yourself for the coward you are; or has a spine developed in your carcass so you can address Obama's failings at hand?
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Hardly!! You clammed up during Obama's lying about Libya. You're mush-mouthed about Cutter's admission about the $5 trillion tax cut being false.
Of course, we all know why: You're trying to deflect and feebly gloss over the fact that Obama got creamed Wednesday night.
Now, are you going to continue to show yourself for the coward you are; or has a spine developed in your carcass so you can address Obama's failings at hand?
i already said romney won,know tell us how it's ok to lie or believe lies when your a christain ;D
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i already said romney won,know tell us how it's ok to lie or believe lies when your a christain ;D
Running and dodging again, Blacken. How pathetic.
I didn't merely ask you about whether Romney won (we already know that; even the MSNBC hacks admitted such).
What I DID specifically ask, you cowardly failed to address.
That, of course, would be Cutter's admission about $5 trillion tax cut being false, and WHY Romney was so easily able to slice up Obama's false claims; whereas Obama could do nothing to address Romney's so-called lies.
THAT is what I asked you; THAT is what you cannot or will not answer. If anything, YOU are doing the lying by pretending that I simply asked about whether Romney won.
Try that on for size. Address the Cutter issue; address why Romney easily put down Obama's claims, while Obama could not do the same to Romney.
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Running and dodging again, Blacken. How pathetic.
I didn't merely ask you about whether Romney won (we already know that; even the MSNBC hacks admitted such).
What I DID specifically ask, you cowardly failed to address.
That, of course, would be Cutter's admission about $5 trillion tax cut being false, and WHY Romney was so easily able to slice up Obama's false claims; whereas Obama could do nothing to address Romney's so-called lies.
THAT is what I asked you; THAT is what you cannot or will not answer. If anything, YOU are doing the lying by pretending that I simply asked about whether Romney won.
Try that on for size. Address the Cutter issue; address why Romney easily put down Obama's claims, while Obama could not do the same to Romney.
tell us it's ok to lie to further an agenda mr. so called christain :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D your toooooo much rush said this hanidy said that the dumbing down of the repub party :D :D :D :D :D
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tell us it's ok to lie to further an agenda mr. so called christain :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D your toooooo much rush said this hanidy said that the dumbing down of the repub party :D :D :D :D :D
Keep running coward and keep lying yourself, as at NO TIME, did I make such a claim.
You can't address the Cutter issue nor why Romney was able to counter Obama's claims so easily. And, as usual, you hide behind this BS, when you're scared to face the facts.
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Eh, that's a very poor defense. If your opponent doesn't catch it, then you didn't lie?
Come on, when obama comes out in that foreign policy debate, and he starts spinning like a top on Libya, egypt... are you giong to to concede every lie that gets past romney in a fast-paced debate full of 30 second time limitations/ Of course not.
People lie in debates all the time. The experts fact check with previous video and releases. Just because the other candidate doesn't nail down 27 falsehoods in the quick time window they're trying to make their own points.? faulty logic.
Logic isn't his strong suit.
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Logic isn't his strong suit.
Says the idiot who thinks obama is brilliant but is unable to even call out romney on one alleged lie.
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Says the idiot who thinks obama is brilliant but is unable to even call out romney on one alleged lie.
EXACTLY!!