Atlantic City Pro Women's updates / results

[Lift Studios]

Complete Fitness Results:

1 Tracey Greenwood 7 7 15 13 42 
2 Bethany Gainey 9 10 26 28 73 
3 Julie Lohre 14 13 14 39 80 
4 Brenda Lee Santiago-Capella 24 23 24 16 87 
5 Stacy Simons 33 31 19 25 108 
6 Erin Riley 40 43 10 40 133 
7 Susan Groshek 36 34 44 47 161 
8 Amy Haddad 21 22 63 63 169 
9 Lea Waide 42 43 59 27 171 
10 Hollie Stewart 61 58 54 8 181 
11 Bridgette Murray 67 69 40 45 221 
12 Lori Kimes 59 49 53 68 229 
13 Christy Green 66 62 41 69 238 
14 Rosalina Vanterpool 47 61 65 66 239 
15 Allison Daughtry 75 74 63 51 263 
16 Jennifer Cassety 76 78 80 74 308

[angelfit]

Complete Figure Results:

1 Andrea Dumon 9 8 17 
2 Heather Green 9 14 23 
3 Chastity Slone 17 11 28 
4 Michelle Adams 19 22 41 
5 Hazel Nelson 24 26 50 
6 Paola Almerico 29 31 60 
7 Jelena Abbou 36 31 67 
8 Jennifer Cook 45 44 89 
9 Lilsa Morton 41 52 93 
10 Debbie Leung 54 50 104 
11 Becky Clawson 53 53 106 
12 Danielle Hollanshade 55 54 109 
13 Thais Cabrices 71 61 132 
14 Shelly Taucher 75 75 150 
15 Cheri Lewis 80 73 153 
16 Alti Bautista 75 79 154 
16 Carina Dupree 79 77 156 
16 Marie Gibbon 76 80 156 
16 Jamie Senuk 77 80 157 
16 Alejandra Abdala 80 80 160 
16 Marie Allegro 80 80 160 
16 Claire Parmley 80 80 160 

[Lift Studios]

Congrats to Heather for making it to the Olympia on her pro debut! She battled her way through the earlier NPC shows this year and was victorious at Team U.

Props to Hazel Nelson for cracking the top 5 in her pro debut. She placed second behind Krissy Chin in New York earlier this year to earn her pro card.

[Lift Studios]

Lisa Aukland your 2007 Overall Female Bodybuilding champion.

Female Bodybuilders:
Light-Weight:

1 Nicole Ball USA 10 5 5 20 
2 Klaudia Larson Sweden 30 12 13 55 
3 Angela Debatin USA 32 16 16 64 
4 Joanna Thomas USA 38 20 21 79 
5 Debbie Bramwell USA 40 21 19 80 
6 Carla Salotti USA 62 30  92 
7 Emery Miller USA 70 35  105 
8 Giusy Caputo Italy 88 43  131 
9 Melanie Derosa Bermuda 86 49  135 
10 Nadia Nardi Canada 88 48  136 
11 Claudia Partenza Italy 110 50  160 
12 Elizabeth Meza Gomez Venezuela 120 60  180 
13 Mary Ellen Jerumbo USA 130 65  195 


Heavy-Weight:

1 Lisa Aukland USA 10 5 5 20 
2 Betty Viana-Adkins USA 22 10 10 42 
3 Debi Laszewski USA 32 17 15 64 
4 Lora Ottenad USA 38 19 21 78 
5 Heather Foster USA 52 26 24 102 
6 Beth Roberts USA 64 34  98 
7 Helen Bouchard Canada 74 32  106 
8 Mario Calo USA 78 41  119 
9 Jana Linke-Sippl Germany 82 44  126 
10 Wendy Mccready United Kingdom 104 51  155 
11 Zoraida Figueroa-Rivera Puerto Rico 112 57  169 
12 Brenda Raganot USA 116 59  175 
13 Mercedes Bazemore USA 136 70  206 
14 Marika Johansson Sweden 144 69  213 
15 Irene Anderson Sweden 150 78  228 
16 Aurelia Grozajova Slovakia 152 76  228 
16 Carmella Cureton USA 158 80  238 
16 Irina Veselova Russia 160 78  238 

[Adonis73]

Then become a judge and make a change that way. Who in your opinion, should have been top 5 Mr. Adonis?

I said I don't want to name any names on here, but I definitely have a top 5 list in mind.  Again, the problem is the judging here.  If you aren't consistent with the judging, then it has no merit.  Why would you place a conditioned athlete right beside an unconditioned one?  NO CONSISTENCY!  I don't think that I could be a judge because I don't want to play this game that they call competition.  It's not just a sport any more, it's a business.

[genex]

Just posted some pix from finals on our boards and site:
http://www.genexmagazine.com - going to drink a few with folks now so more pix later!

gene

[Lift Studios]

Full scorecards and results at:
http://www.ifbbpro.com/results/atlantic-city-pro-2/

[Sandra Wickham]

Congrats everyone!

Did you miss me...?  Come on, you missed me, didn't y'all??!!   

[MisterGX]

I agree Isaac. Alti does look good but not the best. The problem is the back of her legs are not even close to being tight as compared to the rest of her body. From the front she looks good although the legs are a tiny bit over powering. But from the back her back looks good but the back of her legs look bad. If she was tighter from the back she might of been called out sooner. Its between Christy and Heather in mind opnion. Again we are looking for overall look. Not just the body but the whole presentation.

Her legs from the rear are tighter than those of the top 5.  Her whole structure was better than any girls in the show.  But, this is a figure show & I can never understand out what the judges are looking for.  It seems that they want the girls who have no hint of any muscular shape/development to win...

[fitness72]

Ah I don't think so. 

[Lift Studios]

Her legs from the rear are tighter than those of the top 5.  Her whole structure was better than any girls in the show.  But, this is a figure show & I can never understand out what the judges are looking for.  It seems that they want the girls who have no hint of any muscular shape/development to win...

Most assinine statement of the year.

[Krissy C.]

Congrats to Andrea for her win !

Congrats to Heather on her awesome PRO debut and for qualifying for the Olympia-definitely well deserved!

Congrats to my friend Claire who comes in improved and stronger each show-great conditioning and shape!

[MisterGX]

Most assinine statement of the year.

Look at the pics, and you tell me if my statement is assinine.   

[kszep]

Just wanted to share my opinions of the pro fitness show since I got to see it from a new perspective (sitting pregnant in the audience rather than competing on stage  )...

First of all, after viewing the score cards I have to say that the routines were actually scored fairly.  Usually, in the IFBB whatever a competitor scores in physique rounds seems to be how she scores in the routine rounds regardless of how different the scores should be.  In this show, it actually seemed that the routine rounds shifted the final placings (as they should-this is "fitness" after all).  The only exceptions to this were Julie Lohre's 2-minute which should have placed 1st (or at least higher than 7th  ) and Bridgette Murrays 2-minute which should have placed higher as well.

As for final placings, I believe Julie Lohre should have placed first considering her overall package is awesome.  Again, if her routine were judged fairly that would have happened.  I think Bethany's physique was incredible and she deserved her placing. I think Tracy's Physique was also amazing (as always), but not sure why some of the other routines placed so much lower than hers.

In general though, it seemed much more fair than the Europa and certainly the NY Pro. 

Congrats ladies and good luck at the "O"

-Katie Szep

[1Fast400]

Life will be a lot easier when everyone that does this accepts the fact that this is a BUSINESS, it is not an open/fair competition.  It never has been and never will be.  If you want fair judging, then judges need to be detached from the industry.  Name one form of competition in which the HEAD judge has a family business which "manages" athletes that compete within the same business?  I don't understand why people get upset over placings.  It's not as if you were green to this before getting involved.  You competed at the state and national level before you got to this point.  This has been talked about for years. 

If you aren't competing for the FUN of it, then you're in it for all the wrong reasons.  The people that compete DO NOT MAKE MONEY.  Even the most "successful" athletes aren't that successful when you look at the time put into it.  Do it for fun or don't do it all.  If you expected things to be fair, you're in the wrong field.

[jude2]

I thought Jelena should have placed higher  in the figure.

[FigureRX]

The judging can be a difficult thing to decipher, but I refuse to be this pessimistic about the business.  For the most part, looking back on shows, top five placings can be somehow justified.  Athletes look great or they look pretty good.  The problem arises when you have a couple of competitors who come in looking incredible, like a Claire Parmley, yet that athlete comes in outside of the top ten.  Some athletes get overlooked and that doesn't seem right, and it's hard to defend .... you just have to say what you think about that competitor and hope that they stay at it to change the direction of the sport.  The sad thing would be if top level competitors with all the qualities and tools decided to give up.  As far as the money, yes a lot more of it needs to be directed to the athletes themselves rather than going to line the pockets of the federations and their corporate allies.

Life will be a lot easier when everyone that does this accepts the fact that this is a BUSINESS, it is not an open/fair competition.  It never has been and never will be.  If you want fair judging, then judges need to be detached from the industry.  Name one form of competition in which the HEAD judge has a family business which "manages" athletes that compete within the same business?  I don't understand why people get upset over placings.  It's not as if you were green to this before getting involved.  You competed at the state and national level before you got to this point.  This has been talked about for years. 

If you aren't competing for the FUN of it, then you're in it for all the wrong reasons.  The people that compete DO NOT MAKE MONEY.  Even the most "successful" athletes aren't that successful when you look at the time put into it.  Do it for fun or don't do it all.  If you expected things to be fair, you're in the wrong field.

[kszep]

Name one form of competition in which the HEAD judge has a family business which "manages" athletes that compete within the same business? 

Quite disturbing...

[Lift Studios]

Someone will always be unhappy, it's called life. I don't see what the big hub-bub is with this show. The judging seemed fair with what was presented at this show. I'm still waiting for those who are complaining to share who they think should have been in the top 5.

[CQ]

Ms. Szep I like your posts, kick in more often

As far as the figure judging, I really did just give up trying to sort that out some time back. For the life of me I don't see what placed Alti last. Moronic post here I know, but at pro level basically 90% of the figure girls look fantastic, so I cannot decipher.

[1Fast400]

I'm one of the few who's been on ALL sides of this sport. From fan, company owner and someone that has dated women that compete.  I've held my own pro show and been to tons of national level events.  Everyone knows that shows can be rigged.  We've all seen it happen.  My comments have NOTHING to do with this show as I haven't looked at pics.  Pics aren't live either, so keep that in mind.  Nothing is ever directly done.  Everything is via unwritten, but obvious actions.  This isn't a real sport.  The rules aren't enforced.  They are broken ALL the time, especially in fitness.  One of my favorites is watching a girl NOT finish her routine, which is a mandatory last place for that round, yet she was scored and placed in the top 8 overall.  When the judges don't know the rules, how can you expect anything to be fair?

[nutratj]

Congrats to Heather for making it to the Olympia on her pro debut! She battled her way through the earlier NPC shows this year and was victorious at Team U. She's the look figure shoul be about.

Props to Hazel Nelson for cracking the top 5 in her pro debut. She placed second behind Krissy Chin in New York earlier this year to earn her pro card.

Heather looked amazing!  WOW!!!!

[Tre]

Life will be a lot easier when everyone that does this accepts the fact that this is a BUSINESS, it is not an open/fair competition.  It never has been and never will be.  If you want fair judging, then judges need to be detached from the industry.  Name one form of competition in which the HEAD judge has a family business which "manages" athletes that compete within the same business?  I don't understand why people get upset over placings.  It's not as if you were green to this before getting involved.  You competed at the state and national level before you got to this point.  This has been talked about for years. 

If you aren't competing for the FUN of it, then you're in it for all the wrong reasons.  The people that compete DO NOT MAKE MONEY.  Even the most "successful" athletes aren't that successful when you look at the time put into it.  Do it for fun or don't do it all.  If you expected things to be fair, you're in the wrong field.

This post is not fair.   

[1Fast400]

Why is it not fair?  Because it's honest?  Of ALL people you know everything I said is true.  Heaven forbid I become the voice of reason by saying people should compete for FUN rather than the misguided hope that a pot of gold is waiting for them. 

If you don't see the OBVIOUS issues with a judging panel being ran by a person who also manages the very people he judges, well...nevermind.

[CQ]

people should compete for FUN rather than the misguided hope that a pot of gold is waiting for them. 

I agree so much with this, especially for women. I am not sure how much one can make at $12.95 p.m, performing on webcam shows, selling pics and all of that.......but to think there is a pot of gold in the womens physique arena is not wise. I compete, love it, but seek my 'pot of gold' through business interests, like many other girls do. Those that seek 'fame and fortune' will be sorely dissapointed.