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Title: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: calfzilla on August 09, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
Other than an energy source  ::)

Discuss.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: wes on August 09, 2014, 02:05:31 PM
Vitamins and minerals,fiber/roughage.

No fuel = no workouts!! 
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: denarii on August 09, 2014, 02:09:16 PM
does petrol have a role in motorsport?  ::)
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: the trainer on August 09, 2014, 02:11:13 PM
Very high protein diets is pushed my the magazines to sell more protein supplements many gym rats are brainwashed by this, clean carbs are important like brown rice, oats, quinola etc.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: calfzilla on August 09, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
Very high protein diets is pushed my the magazines to sell more protein supplements many gym rats are brainwashed by this, clean carbs are important like brown rice, oats, quinola etc.

But why?
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: denarii on August 09, 2014, 02:13:44 PM


cycle carbs not protein superdosing...
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 02:13:54 PM
Other than an energy source  ::)

Discuss.

fuck yeah
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: BigRo on August 09, 2014, 02:16:35 PM
But why?

more energy for training so you can push harder and lift heavier and they are protein sparing so your body can use the protein it takes in for recovery rather than energy output.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: calfzilla on August 09, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
But the galeniko no one diet doesn't call for carbs and those guys are big and shredded. Let's debate this. Different viewpoints welcome.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: TristenEsco on August 09, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
Carbs allow protein to build and repair muscle. Low to no carbs for too long extended time will cause the body to fuel energy from elsewhere which starts catabolism. And you'll look flat.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Mawse on August 09, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
according to Layme Norton carbs are 'protein sparing' , so you can eat less protein if you eat some of dem carbs.

IMO the only difference is I have boring workouts with no pumps when I'm in keto and my arms shrink 1/2" because of glycogen depletion (no Jason Blahomo)

But you know what IS muscle sparing? Running more than 250mg of test a week. Case closed.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: wes on August 09, 2014, 02:26:35 PM
Cycle carbs or eat very low carbs as a rule if trying to stay lean.......BUT have a refeed day for brain function,good pumps,and fiber intake.

A fiber supp should be taken daily anyway if dieting IMO,but carbs will taste better.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: ENZO on August 09, 2014, 02:39:12 PM
Carbs allow protein to build and repair muscle. Low to no carbs for too long extended time will cause the body to fuel energy from elsewhere which starts catabolism. And you'll look flat.

This
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
But the galeniko no one diet doesn't call for carbs and those guys are big and shredded. Let's debate this. Different viewpoints welcome.

You can achieve all you want as far as getting lean and maintaining 98% of muscle on keto. Carbs can be a big help though IMO as far as training hard and gaining muscle goes.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: jamesjenkinsfitness on August 09, 2014, 02:57:22 PM
Other than an energy source  ::)

Discuss.


Being that you said besides fuel. I'd go with nutrient transport. It releases insulin which would then shuttle increased nutrients into the tissue. Muscle sparing prevents proteins from being converted to sugar. Just mybguess
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 09, 2014, 03:00:07 PM
Carbs may not be necessary for muscle building but they sure as fuck make it easier.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: forillagorilla on August 09, 2014, 03:07:00 PM
Other than an energy source  ::)

Discuss.

Nevermind my last reply - you ARE this stupid. You are asking if carbs play a role in muscle growth. Nah man - protein that's all you need - so go buy a bunch of powder and you will be huge in no time.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on August 09, 2014, 04:05:01 PM
Nevermind my last reply - you ARE this stupid. You are asking if carbs play a role in muscle growth. Nah man - protein that's all you need - so go buy a bunch of powder and you will be huge in no time.

Lower your tone when addressing Calfzilla.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Most BBs eat carbs.  Probably means you should too if you want to look like a BB.

Dorian dieted the conventional way with lots of carbs and not overly much protein (when compare to what the mags recommend) and he was more consistent and more shredded than anyone shy of Munzer (and a few others obviously).

Carbs are not the enemy, they just have to be used smartly and in proportion with your diet. My coach diets us on a pretty good amount of carbs and im still losing fat just fine. I personally cannot keto, I dont have the willpower and I cant stand feeling like death all the time
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: calfzilla on August 09, 2014, 04:14:00 PM
Lower your tone when addressing Calfzilla.

My bro-hawked crooked nosed white knight.  :-*
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: forillagorilla on August 09, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
Lower your tone when addressing Calfzilla.

Lol
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 06:57:06 PM
2 years ago, (I was 21 in FSU) my lifting partener and I did a squat a thon contest of who could do 315 for the most reps. He went first and did 30 full reps, I went after him and did 50 full reps. It was awesome and the entire gym loved to see two friends challenge each other like that. Now at 23 I don't go over 225 for 10-12 reps. If you have a regular lifting partener, try to challenge each other like that.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Marty Champions on August 09, 2014, 06:59:59 PM
still after all these years calfzilla wondering if he should eat carbs!!!!!!!!!?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wtf man get a grip bro life is fucking with you. but you just might be one of those lads who have never ever kept track of anything in his life, youve lived day to day like a fish out of water, well big guy time to start keeping track and see if carbs work for you or not  ::)  :'(
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2014, 07:00:12 PM
2 years ago, (I was 21 in FSU) my lifting partener and I did a squat a thon contest of who could do 315 for the most reps. He went first and did 30 full reps, I went after him and did 50 full reps. It was awesome and the entire gym loved to see two friends challenge each other like that. Now at 23 I don't go over 225 for 10-12 reps. If you have a regular lifting partener, try to challenge each other like that.
Bullshit,  you never went to FSU. That would imply big roger f neegars is edumacated.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 07:06:13 PM
Bullshit,  you never went to FSU. That would imply big roger f neegars is edumacated.

No, I'm a moran...  ;D
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
No, I'm a moran...  ;D
Srsly though, did you go to FSU? I thought you lived in ohio?

Btw I did an install in a place called kansas ohio.

I dont know how those guys dont commit suicide.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 07:25:18 PM
Srsly though, did you go to FSU? I thought you lived in ohio?

Btw I did an install in a place called kansas ohio.

I dont know how those guys dont commit suicide.

Yeah, lol. Didn't really go to FSU, copied that from another thread... thought it was funny.  ;D
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Shockwave on August 09, 2014, 07:57:29 PM
Yeah, lol. Didn't really go to FSU, copied that from another thread... thought it was funny.  ;D
Thats what I figured. Between you and Army of One copying posts from other sites and pasting it here as your own, I can never tell when youre serious or not.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 09:25:28 PM
Thats what I figured. Between you and Army of One copying posts from other sites and pasting it here as your own, I can never tell when youre serious or not.

Damn, thanks for comparing me to that fuck face... I'll quit doing that now.  ;D

I learnt it from Kwon   :D
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 09, 2014, 09:54:50 PM
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Rambone on August 09, 2014, 11:10:53 PM
2 years ago, (I was 21 in FSU) my lifting partener and I did a squat a thon contest of who could do 315 for the most reps. He went first and did 30 full reps, I went after him and did 50 full reps. It was awesome and the entire gym loved to see two friends challenge each other like that. Now at 23 I don't go over 225 for 10-12 reps. If you have a regular lifting partener, try to challenge each other like that.

Shit son. Class of '07 right here. You train at the Leach?
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: calfzilla on August 10, 2014, 12:52:15 AM


Would love to train with you some day.
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on August 10, 2014, 01:32:16 AM
2 years ago, (I was 21 in FSU) my lifting partener and I did a squat a thon contest of who could do 315 for the most reps. He went first and did 30 full reps, I went after him and did 50 full reps.

Haha oh brother, ofcourse you did.  ::)
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: D.O.A. on August 10, 2014, 07:05:59 AM
Very high protein diets is pushed my the magazines to sell more protein supplements many gym rats are brainwashed by this, clean carbs are important like brown rice, oats, quinola etc.
please :o :o brutal bro science
Title: Re: Do carbs have any role in building muscle?
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 10, 2014, 07:07:50 AM
Bodybuilding workouts, 30-45 second sets followed by 1-2 min rest,
are primarily glycolytic.

So, if you're training in a carb depleted state, your workouts would figure to be sluggish, as you're relying on a slower burning fuel, fat, which is more appropriate for less intense training like jogging at 9-10 minute mile pace.

Of course, if you're dieting for a show, you might be willing to sacrifice the intensity for the increase in fat burning.

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