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Title: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: jephrius on July 08, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
John Lennon was a wimp riding Sir Paul McCartney's coat tails.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Jaime on July 08, 2012, 11:42:21 AM
I came to the conclusion that they are a bunch of whiny liverpudlian mongs, who wrote a lot of crap lsd induced music that sounds shit.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: clownbaby on July 08, 2012, 11:43:57 AM
(http://moviesblog.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/032108_chapter27.jpg)

john lennon was a phony they are all phonies
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: kevcat on July 08, 2012, 12:22:02 PM
Both wrong ;) , if you 'studied' hard enough youd notice that mcCartney was way behind Lennon till about 66 as a songwriter, then he definetly carried the band the last few years! But i believe Lennons earlier stuff was way ahead of McCartney so you could say Paul learned everything he knew from John  :)
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: billytwolips on July 08, 2012, 12:23:58 PM
never could understand why the beatles are so revered. whatever.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 12:25:27 PM
John Lennon was a wimp riding Sir Paul McCartney's coat tails.

totally wrong
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: arce1988 on July 08, 2012, 12:26:21 PM
  No one cared about the true genius... George
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 08, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
  No one cared about the true genius... Ringo
fixed
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
I came to the conclusion that they are a bunch of whiny liverpudlian mongs, who wrote a lot of crap lsd induced music that sounds shit.

wrong again
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 08, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
I prefer Lennon's anti-establishment, rebelious type of attitude to McCartney's good two shoes ass kissing nonsense.  Lennon was more in touch with reality than McCartney.



They were really both equal in terms of song writing ability.

  
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2012, 12:47:28 PM
I prefer Lennon's anti-establishment, rebelious type of attitude to McCartney's good two shoes ass kissing nonsense.  Lennon was more in touch with reality than McCartney.



They were really both equal in terms of song writing ability.

  

In touch with reality? he married Yoko for Christ's sake
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
Both wrong ;) , if you 'studied' hard enough youd notice that mcCartney was way behind Lennon till about 66 as a songwriter, then he definetly carried the band the last few years! But i believe Lennons earlier stuff was way ahead of McCartney so you could say Paul learned everything he knew from John  :)

I don't think Paul learned everything he knew from John but I do think you are totally dead-on...that John obviously dominated the group early on but Paul came into his own later on and carried the group until they split up...even George began to rival John and Paul toward the end when he wrote "Here Comes The Sun" and "Something"
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 12:50:26 PM
In touch with reality? he married Yoko for Christ's sake

Reminds me of the joke..."How did Yoko Ono get her last name"?........................ ................













John saw her naked! :D
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: arce1988 on July 08, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
 imo
 john
 paul
 george
 ringo


 but george was a true genius... I have a hard time choosing between paul and george
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 08, 2012, 12:52:45 PM
Reminds me of the joke..."How did Yoko Ono get her last name"?........................ ................













John saw her naked! :D

lmfao

I mean WTF seriously? What the fuck???

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 12:53:16 PM
imo
 john
 paul
 george
 ringo


 but george was a true genius... I have a hard time choosing between paul and george

George was a genius but was years being McCartney and Lennon....but he came into his own later on as well
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 08, 2012, 12:54:08 PM
In touch with reality? he married Yoko for Christ's sake

Regarding her, you're correct.  I meant in terms of what is really going on in the world and who really runs it.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 12:56:45 PM
George also said in interviews that Lennon and McCartney held him back...they wanted to put all of their songs on the albums and wouldn't take his songs seriously in the studio......
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Megalodon on July 08, 2012, 12:58:57 PM
Ringo had what mattered most.

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: arce1988 on July 08, 2012, 12:59:48 PM
  andre is right
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 01:06:07 PM
Ringo had what mattered most.



Ringo definitely wound up with the best-looking wife of all the Beatles
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: dr.chimps on July 08, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
Not a huge Beatles fan, but the range and what they did between 1965-70 is stunning, probably never to be replicated.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Viking11 on July 08, 2012, 01:25:37 PM
Lennon was a Get bigger
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Hulkotron on July 08, 2012, 01:25:50 PM
I'd give Barbara Bach the old 1-2.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: wes on July 08, 2012, 02:02:07 PM
O bla dee on bla dah

Koo koo ka choo

Newspaper taxis

We all live in a yellow submarine

Just a sampling..........no,a mere inkling,of some of their awesome lyrics, and if you play them backwards you get The Beatles laughing all the way to the bank!  :D
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: Parker on July 08, 2012, 02:10:09 PM
In touch with reality? he married Yoko for Christ's sake
There was the idiot (Paul) who married a one legged chick, and then got taken to the cleaners.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2012, 02:26:55 PM
Name the rock bands before the Beatles arrived on the scene.  Yes music has changed but classics like the Beatles will always be around. Most of the current rock bands will be almost unknown in 15 years.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: Parker on July 08, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
He has so much money he couldn't spend it in ten lifetimes. He's not some n****r-rich rapper or ball player who feels so uncomfortable with dough he gives it away til he's back in the poorhouse again.
Oh, he gave it away alright---thru a judge's order. And the chick was on Dancing with The Stars...
It shows, he never learned a damn thing from all the songs they had...and remember I believe MJ's estate still owns their Library...
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: Parker on July 08, 2012, 02:46:28 PM
Michael Jackson is dead. Paul McCartney has a higher net worth than the Jackson estate even after the divorce. Paul McCartney has more money than he could spend in ten lifetimes, while the majority of broken down has been n******s handed the dough over to broads without a court order. Also spent more than they were making on cars, houses, drugs etc.
Care to produce the numbers? Man, your trolling is weak, better return to form soon, or these new gimmicks will eat you alive.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: arce1988 on July 08, 2012, 02:46:50 PM
barbara bach
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 08, 2012, 03:54:57 PM
They were both great musicians. You can however, after they started to experiment with drugs, start to distinguish between their musical styles. Listen to a "Day in the life" and you hear both styles distinctively. Both musical geniuses. The Ballad of John and yoko, they were the only two playing instruments through dubbing. Paul played bass and drums, John played guitars. Whatever you think of them, they left their stamps on music. John with his hippy solo bullshit, Paul with his love songs. BTW, the song Jet kicks ass.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: Parker on July 08, 2012, 04:02:10 PM
According to Forbes Paul McCartney $1billion u.s. And Michael Jackson $600 millions U.S. Article on Jackson talks about all the money he wasted on bullshit. Plus the pedophile negro freak is D.E.A.D. Not much to talk about there, genius.
I knew I could get you to go fetch me the info. Good boy. Unfornately, you never referenced how recent that was. Because MJ was circling the toilet in terms of wealth, which is why he was going to do the tour.

And didn't most of PM's stack go to the one legged hooker?

Please do a better job next time...
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Fortress on July 08, 2012, 04:09:02 PM


Catchy as fuck

As far as The Beatles, well, the band isn't my cup o' tea, that's for sure.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 04:19:18 PM
Name the rock bands before the Beatles arrived on the scene.  Yes music has changed but classics like the Beatles will always be around. Most of the current rock bands will be almost unknown in 15 years.

agreed...and in another 39 -40 years people will still be 0playing the Beatles....and rap will be forgotten
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
Care to produce the numbers? Man, your trolling is weak, better return to form soon, or these new gimmicks will eat you alive.

HA! ;D
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Grape Ape on July 08, 2012, 04:21:46 PM
I came to the conclusion that they are a bunch of whiny liverpudlian mongs, who wrote a lot of crap lsd induced music that sounds shit.

So, the Beatles, who many consider the best band ever, wrote crap and Yates should have lost the 93 Olympia, considered the most dominant win in history.   Any other gems?
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 04:21:57 PM
According to Forbes Paul McCartney $1billion u.s. And Michael Jackson $600 millions U.S. Article on Jackson talks about all the money he wasted on bullshit. Plus the pedophile negro freak is D.E.A.D. Not much to talk about there, genius.

you started off the thread well...now you're turning into an idiot..relax....you don't need to throw the n-word out there for attention
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 04:22:46 PM
They were both great musicians. You can however, after they started to experiment with drugs, start to distinguish between their musical styles. Listen to a "Day in the life" and you hear both styles distinctively. Both musical geniuses. The Ballad of John and yoko, they were the only two playing instruments through dubbing. Paul played bass and drums, John played guitars. Whatever you think of them, they left their stamps on music. John with his hippy solo bullshit, Paul with his love songs. BTW, the song Jet kicks ass.


agreed all the way
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: Parker on July 08, 2012, 04:28:26 PM
Epic fail at insinuating your intention was for me to "fetch" you anything. You discovered you don't have a clue what your talking about. Go play your plantation games with someone of your own ilk.
little doggy is mad that he was tricked? You provided the info, yet it was old. You can't even get the correct info.
When it was you who has no clue...your trolling is weak, YAGR has replaced you.
Sad day, very sad day...Plantation Games...you are the one who wanted to play "fetch".

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 08, 2012, 04:28:40 PM
  No one cared about the true genius... George
  you are ahead of the game for knowing this.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Andy Griffin on July 08, 2012, 04:31:34 PM
Reminds me of the joke..."How did Yoko Ono get her last name"?........................ ................

John saw her naked! :D

An oldie but goodie that lost some of its charm after George became the second Beattle to die...

Why can't you go to the bathroom at a Beattles' concert?
There's no John.

And finally, a good post-Beattle joke....

What do you call a dog with wings?
Linda McCartney
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 08, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
p.s jephrius is a racist little dick punk. ELVIS is the king but elvis got his inspiration and so did every single great rock band in the 60s and 70s from american BLACK music.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: polychronopolous on July 08, 2012, 04:37:02 PM
Elvis, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, etc.

You can still hear songs from these artists being played, covered or worked into/referenced in modern media (commercials, television, movies) to this very day. Especially the first 2.

I believe if Buddy Holly had lived he would have eventually been extremely successful as a song writer and ultimately would have been a very powerful producer in the music industry; that guy showed unbelievable talent and charisma at the age of 22. The Rolling Stones and Beatles used to get together and drink to Buddy and discuss how much he influenced their music style and how they wished he was still around.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 08, 2012, 05:18:04 PM
You can still hear songs from these artists being played, covered or worked into/referenced in modern media (commercials, television, movies) to this very day. Especially the first 2.

I believe if Buddy Holly had lived he would have eventually been extremely successful as a song writer and ultimately would have been a very powerful producer in the music industry; that guy showed unbelievable talent and charisma at the age of 22. The Rolling Stones and Beatles used to get together and drink to Buddy and discuss how much he influenced their music style and how they wished he was still around.

.    Agreed, buddy holly was a huge influence to future rock n rol music. And very resPected in.  Country.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 08, 2012, 05:33:01 PM
Both wrong ;) , if you 'studied' hard enough youd notice that mcCartney was way behind Lennon till about 66 as a songwriter, then he definetly carried the band the last few years! But i believe Lennons earlier stuff was way ahead of McCartney so you could say Paul learned everything he knew from John  :)

1966 is supposedly when Paul McCartney died and Billy Shears took over his life if i'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 08, 2012, 07:34:22 PM
Elvis, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Beach Boys, Four Seasons, etc.

Like I said very few. The explosion happened after the Beatles.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: basil on July 08, 2012, 08:57:37 PM
I knew I could get you to go fetch me the info. Good boy. Unfornately, you never referenced how recent that was. Because MJ was circling the toilet in terms of wealth, which is why he was going to do the tour.

And didn't most of PM's stack go to the one legged hooker?

Please do a better job next time...



"The total was £24.3 million, plus payments of £35,000 per annum, for a nanny and school costs for their daughter."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Mills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Mills)
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 08:58:37 PM
An oldie but goodie that lost some of its charm after George became the second Beattle to die...

Why can't you go to the bathroom at a Beattles' concert?
There's no John.

And finally, a good post-Beattle joke....

What do you call a dog with wings?
Linda McCartney
Good ones! ;D
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 08, 2012, 08:59:43 PM
John Lennon was a wimp riding Sir Paul McCartney's coat tails.

Freaking hate the Beatles. Overhyped with great PR people.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 09:00:22 PM
1966 is supposedly when Paul McCartney died and Billy Shears took over his life if i'm not mistaken.
please.....don't even bring that up
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 08, 2012, 09:01:15 PM
Freaking hate the Beatles. Overhyped with great PR people.

there was no such thing as PR back then....you were good or you weren't.....
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: deadz on July 08, 2012, 09:10:13 PM
One of the best bands in history.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Figo on July 09, 2012, 12:16:35 AM
Boy band making music they liked and would be consumed by "anti establishment" masses
Ironically became very mainstream and commercial

Their motivations were the same as anyone else, fame, money, pussy
They were packaged the way they were, for a reason, no fucking genius or individual bs, just another band that had right music for the time

Had lennon not died he wouldve just become an even bigger embarrassment and looney. Some people have to die young so their legacy lives intact, dean, monroe, kennedy, etc
As an example, look at elvis
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: _bruce_ on July 09, 2012, 07:00:50 AM
Beatles suck, but they had a hand for catchy tunes.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 09, 2012, 07:16:44 AM
Beatles suck, but they had a hand for catchy tunes.
  sgt. peppers is musical genius.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: BigCyp on July 09, 2012, 07:24:48 AM
I have studied your mother's vagina, and have come to the conclusions that I was by far not the first man to do so.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: dr.chimps on July 09, 2012, 07:28:33 AM
Freaking hate the Beatles. Overhyped with great PR people.
Well, they became more popular than Jesus, so I can understand your antipathy.   ;D
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 07:47:47 AM
Greatest band ever....John and Paul were genuises with George not far behind...even Ringo contributed some stuff...had some #1 hits after the Beatles broke up as well...John and Paul were amazing songwriters and they came up with awesome stuff...George was held back somewhat but blossomed later as well.....they just got tired of being together...Lennon went into a depression plus was messing around with Yoko and didn't much care about the Beatles.....Paul took over and pushed them but was really bossy in the studio and the others were upset about this..Paul wanted to keep the band together..John wanted to leave.....Ringo would have went either way.....George was ambivalent

a big secret is that the Beatles were actually on the verge of getting back together when John was shot...the contracts were made out for millions and millions..by then Paul and John had mended fences and George and John were willing to work together again (after George was very hateful toward John for his relationship with Yoko)
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: CalvinH on July 09, 2012, 07:49:24 AM
One of the best bands in history.


This
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Tito24 on July 09, 2012, 08:23:03 AM
also they made music people covered a lot and were made into huge hits too.
certainly great talents.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclu
Post by: bradistani on July 09, 2012, 11:49:41 AM
There was the idiot (Paul) who married a one legged chick, and then got taken to the cleaners.

i always thought he married her becuse she looked like/ reminded him of linda.. she was nuts but he married her for the wrong reasons !!

plus he hardly got took to the cleaners
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 09, 2012, 12:44:08 PM
please.....don't even bring that up

My music teacher in high school was one of the biggest Beatles fans. Beatles license plate on his car, etc. He was 100% convinced that PM died.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Heywood on July 09, 2012, 01:00:54 PM
The Beatles certainly weren't over-hyped.  They were simply huge at one point in time, in the mid-1960's.  They eclipsed Elvis and everything else for a period of time.

I'd go back to 1965's Rubber Soul as to a great period of their music.

By 1967 (Sgt. Pepper), it can be pretty depressing stuff to listen to.  But at that time, the Baby Boomers were being drafted to Vietnam, so there really was a lot of depression and drugs.  And Woodstock was soon to follow.  Drugs and anti-establishment ideas became a way of life for many at that time.  The Beatles reflected some sad times.

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 04:01:32 PM
also they made music people covered a lot and were made into huge hits too.
certainly great talents.

Paul has made a fortune from people covering "yesterday"....its the most covered song in history
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 04:03:25 PM
The Beatles certainly weren't over-hyped.  They were simply huge at one point in time, in the mid-1960's.  They eclipsed Elvis and everything else for a period of time.

I'd go back to 1965's Rubber Soul as to a great period of their music.

By 1967 (Sgt. Pepper), it can be pretty depressing stuff to listen to.  But at that time, the Baby Boomers were being drafted to Vietnam, so there really was a lot of depression and drugs.  And Woodstock was soon to follow.  Drugs and anti-establishment ideas became a way of life for many at that time.  The Beatles reflected some sad times.



I think they got better as they went along....especially George...But McCartney was a genius for coming up with the Sgt. Pepper concept......
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 04:05:30 PM
Also the thing with Paul is I think he is one of those guys that really likes to be married and believes in it....look he even got Married AGAIN to Nancy Shevell..I think deep down he misses Linda and is trying to replace her.......In would like to see him marry a black chick so everyone can freak out! :)
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: polychronopolous on July 09, 2012, 05:36:54 PM
Also the thing with Paul is I think he is one of those guys that really likes to be married and believes in it....look he even got Married AGAIN to Nancy Shevell..I think deep down he misses Linda and is trying to replace her.......In would like to see him marry a black chick so everyone can freak out! :)

Nobody would give the slightest bit of a fuck.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 06:42:23 PM
The reason the beetles were so popular and people were fanatical about them was because of the mainstream media or MSM.  But why?  Simple, who controls the MSM?  The CIA or information/propaganda arm of the U.S. Government.  Alot of people think the cia is this Fbi type force, no.  They do not enforce law.  They are what they are:  Intelligence Services...or just another term for propaganda ministry.  Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, etc, and many many other news corespondents are former or trained CIA.  Even the movies are cia scripts.  Why do you think the CIA is always portrayed as 007 type assassins in the movies?  To throw you off of what they really do.  Ever seen a real cia agent?  Enough said.

But anyway, so about the Beetles.  What all was going on before the Beetles phenomenon?  Ah..The Hippie Movement among many other political parties (Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, etc).  Basically in those days (Of hardly any tv) everyone was involved in....BINGO:  POLITICS.  When everyone is involved in politics of course everyone's mind is on politics.  The people in power can't do what they want to do.  No one turned a blind eye.  So there were constant anti political groups emerging, riots, and tons and tons of protests.  Do you see protests like that today?  There's your answer to why the Beetles were so popular.  You don't see protests like that today.  And it's because it's engineered.

Think about it, what was the 60's known for?  The beginning of the drug revolution.  You think that was an accident?  No.  LSD was created by the cia for interrogation purposes.  Let me guess how it just happened to find it's way all over America in break neck speed with everyone and their mother doing it.  Hmm.  Then you have the marijuanna craze.  How many people were smoking pot in the 50's?  Barely any.  Wonder what made everyone just happen to start doing that?  Gee.

Fast forward to today, and nothing's changed except the CIA/Gov't has gotten better and suppressing the people.  The Beetles was the start of it all.  The start of the "Celeb Craze".  Because when people have their minds on something like that, their minds are off politics.  Look at things today, how many people are really into politics?  Or REALLY know anything about what is going on, and NO i'm not talking about what this radio or that radio head said.  If it's on the radio, doesn't matter WHO said it, it's engineered.  Even Alex Jones or other wanna be patriots.  These guys are just as involved.  Their just different flavors for different folks. 

The point is, celeb craze, drugs, tv shows, are all tools to get the masses minds off whats really going on.  And it's NOT the people who are boosting these celebs, it's the media making you think that.  Ever since the Beetles you've had Elvis, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Madonna again, Brittany, and on and on and on.  You will always have some big music artist or movie star.  It's all contrived.  The Roman's created the Arena to keep the peoples minds occupied.  It's no different today, all bread and circus to keep the populace out of what's really going on.  Just think about it, and think hard.  It may not come to you now, but it will eventually.  Same thing with drugs.  Funny how new drugs just keep coming out ever so often, all invented within the last few years.  I'm talking about pain pills, crack, cocaine, meth, heroin, the pharma drugs, bath salts, etc.  I know heroin and cocaine has been around for centuries, but i'm talking about it's huge mainstream use in the last few years.  They're all tools to keep you docile and occupied.  The CIA just figured they had to do something and something fast to calm the people.  So they threw in everything but the kitchen sink.  Now with today's technology, it's getting worse, but I promise you this, it's on purpose.  Everyone goes around asking, "Why does the news pimp Paris Hilton so much"?  Well now you know why.

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 06:46:03 PM
The reason the beetles were so popular and people were fanatical about them was because of the mainstream media or MSM.  But why?  Simple, who controls the MSM?  The CIA or information/propaganda arm of the U.S. Government.  Alot of people think the cia is this Fbi type force, no.  They do not enforce law.  They are what they are:  Intelligence Services...or just another term for propaganda ministry.  Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, etc, and many many other news corespondents are former or trained CIA.  Even the movies are cia scripts.  Why do you think the CIA is always portrayed as 007 type assassins in the movies?  To throw you off of what they really do.  Ever seen a real cia agent?  Enough said.

But anyway, so about the Beetles.  What all was going on before the Beetles phenomenon?  Ah..The Hippie Movement among many other political parties (Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, etc).  Basically in those days (Of hardly any tv) everyone was involved in....BINGO:  POLITICS.  When everyone is involved in politics of course everyone's mind is on politics.  The people in power can't do what they want to do.  No one turned a blind eye.  So there were constant anti political groups emerging, riots, and tons and tons of protests.  Do you see protests like that today?  There's your answer to why the Beetles were so popular.  You don't see protests like that today.  And it's because it's engineered.

Think about it, what was the 60's known for?  The beginning of the drug revolution.  You think that was an accident?  No.  LSD was created by the cia for interrogation purposes.  Let me guess how it just happened to find it's way all over America in break neck speed with everyone and their mother doing it.  Hmm.  Then you have the marijuanna craze.  How many people were smoking pot in the 50's?  Barely any.  Wonder what made everyone just happen to start doing that?  Gee.

Fast forward to today, and nothing's changed except the CIA/Gov't has gotten better and suppressing the people.  The Beetles was the start of it all.  The start of the "Celeb Craze".  Because when people have their minds on something like that, their minds are off politics.  Look at things today, how many people are really into politics?  Or REALLY know anything about what is going on, and NO i'm not talking about what this radio or that radio head said.  If it's on the radio, doesn't matter WHO said it, it's engineered.  Even Alex Jones or other wanna be patriots.  These guys are just as involved.  Their just different flavors for different folks. 

The point is, celeb craze, drugs, tv shows, are all tools to get the masses minds off whats really going on.  And it's NOT the people who are boosting these celebs, it's the media making you think that.  Ever since the Beetles you've had Elvis, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Madonna again, Brittany, and on and on and on.  You will always have some big music artist or movie star.  It's all contrived.  The Roman's created the Arena to keep the peoples minds occupied.  It's no different today, all bread and circus to keep the populace out of what's really going on.  Just think about it, and think hard.  It may not come to you now, but it will eventually.  Same thing with drugs.  Funny how new drugs just keep coming out ever so often, all invented within the last few years.  I'm talking about pain pills, crack, cocaine, meth, heroin, the pharma drugs, bath salts, etc.  I know heroin and cocaine has been around for centuries, but i'm talking about it's huge mainstream use in the last few years.  They're all tools to keep you docile and occupied.  The CIA just figured they had to do something and something fast to calm the people.  So they threw in everything but the kitchen sink.  Now with today's technology, it's getting worse, but I promise you this, it's on purpose.  Everyone goes around asking, "Why does the news pimp Paris Hilton so much"?  Well now you know why.



Dude you lost me after the first sentence......where the fuck did you get this shit???..are you on mushrooms???
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 06:47:10 PM
Dude you lost me after the first sentence......where the fuck did you get this shit???..are you on mushrooms???

Re-read it.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 06:50:47 PM
Dude you lost me after the first sentence......where the fuck did you get this shit???..are you on mushrooms???

I mean it's really not that hard to understand.  Just look at history.  It's very simple to figure out what's going on.  Just take your mind off everything and really look into the past and you will see it clear as day.  Now if you don't know anything about history, then of course your not going to understand this or either your afraid of the truth and will continue to post absurd comments without thinking about what I wrote like you previously did.  You honestly posted that right after I posted what I did and without even reading what I wrote.  Someone like you will probably never understand this kind of thing or anything political.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 06:51:44 PM
I mean it's really not that hard to understand.  Just look at history.  It's very simple to figure out what's going on.  Just take your mind off everything and really look into the past and you will see it clear as day.  Now if you don't know anything about history, then of course your not going to understand this or either your afraid of the truth and will continue to post absurd comments without thinking about what I wrote like you previously did.  You honestly posted that right after I posted what I did and without even reading what I wrote.  Someone like you will probably never understand this kind of thing or anything political.

why wouldn't I understand Mr. 60 posts???
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 06:55:24 PM
why wouldn't I understand Mr. 60 posts???

Really?  So now you're measuring my intelligence and posts by my post count?  WOW.  Okay, so If I had 6,000+ posts of junk that would mean i'm equal or 7000+ posts would mean i'm better?  Get the fuck out of here.  Don't you have a some girlfriends to be fingering or some buddies to go to the movies with before curfew?
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 06:59:50 PM
Really?  So now you're measuring my intelligence and posts by my post count?  WOW.  Okay, so If I had 6,000+ posts of junk that would mean i'm equal or 7000+ posts would mean i'm better?  Get the fuck out of here.  Don't you have a some girlfriends to be fingering or some buddies to go to the movies with before curfew?

I'm questioning your intelligence because I never heard any of this shit before concerning the Beatles....you got links to this crap??

the CIA?.....what the fuck?....they were just four fucking guys playing music.....now you've got them mixed up in some conspiracy shit
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 07:18:32 PM
I'm questioning your intelligence because I never heard any of this shit before concerning the Beatles....you got links to this crap??

the CIA?.....what the fuck?....they were just four fucking guys playing music.....now you've got them mixed up in some conspiracy shit

LOL, no.  I wasn't saying the Beetles were CIA.  I was saying it was the CIA who came up with the idea to boost the Beetles through the mainstream media to get the peoples minds on something else.  It was the beginning of the celeb craze.  It was something they decided to try to see if it would quell all the uprisings at the time.  And it worked.  They got better and better at it.  This is why you don't see people protesting today like they did in the old days.  People today could care less about what Obama just did, but they know what celeb did or wore where ever the night before.  See what I'm saying?

This is an old trick used by the Roman Empire with the Arena (Gladiator's etc).  Tv for instance.  When tv was first invented it only had three main stations, maybe four in some parts of the country.  All gov't owned.  It's purpose was nothing more than news.  Many smaller countries do this still today.  Of course the U.S. now has 100's of stations, all to fill peoples minds with crap to keep them docile and uninformed.  

I don't have any links, because honestly you won't hear about this or learn about this anywhere.  This is just what I've figured out on my own and to me it makes perfect sense.  Especially if you know how bad those in power want to control the populace un-interrupted.  Why else would the news focus so hard on stupid acts of celebs?  

I may not be writing everything out like I want to, but was hoping you guys would get the message of what I was trying to say and form your own opinions.  But if you really think about what's happening, it all makes sense.

The reason I said CIA was because that is who controls our news.  I promise you they get the jump on events when they happen before the news does.  Ever notice how ALL the news stations at once are reporting something?  Who do you think gives them the heads up?  So when they do, they've already crafted the story on how they (CIA) want it told to the American people.  The CIA was created right after world war 2, it was meant to do the same thing the Nazi's did with Goebelles Propaganda of Ministry.  Remember, the U.S. viturally became Nazi, Germany after WWII, just without their political ideologies.  Operation Paperclip was bringing over all the useful nazi's to work over here after wwII.  After all, Germany was the most technological advanced country in the world at the time.  After wwii, look at our jump in tech.  Look at Nasa, the pharm companies.  Pzifer, Malkinkrodt, etc, all German companies.  The cia was no different.  The U.S. just learned how to control information using the CIA like the Nazi's did.  This is why the CIA controls a huge portion of our news.  It was them who worked the beetles into the mainstream media to get the peoples attention.  Psychological opperation 101 or psyops.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(United_States)

There's nothing that is just foriegn about psyops either.  Psyops are routinely and constantly being ran on U.S. citizens.  Really read what that wiki page is saying and you'll figure it all out.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 07:30:28 PM
dude..you've lost it...and you can't link to wikipedia dude..thats not a scholarly source
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
dude..you've lost it...and you can't link to wikipedia dude..thats not a scholarly source

You really don't understand what i'm saying do you? 

I linked to wiki so you could read up and understand what a psyop is.  Which is what is going on.  Here you go:

CNN and NPR interns incident
In the 1990s it came to light that soldiers from the 4th Psychological Operations Group had been interning at the American news networks Cable News Network (CNN) and National Public Radio (NPR). The program was an attempt to provide its PSYOP personnel with the expertise developed by the private sector under its "Training with Industry" program. The program caused concern about the influence these soldiers might have on American news and the programs were terminated.
National Public Radio reported on April 10, 2000:
The U.S. Army's Psychological Operations unit placed interns at CNN and NPR in 1998 and 1999. The placements at CNN were reported in the European press in February of this year and the program was terminated. The NPR placements will be reported this week in TV Guide.[21]
[edit]

This is how they control media. 

Dude, I know your not this stupid.  Your obviously playing with me and there's really no point in it.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 07:44:03 PM
You really don't understand what i'm saying do you? 

I linked to wiki so you could read up and understand what a psyop is.  Which is what is going on.  Here you go:

CNN and NPR interns incident
In the 1990s it came to light that soldiers from the 4th Psychological Operations Group had been interning at the American news networks Cable News Network (CNN) and National Public Radio (NPR). The program was an attempt to provide its PSYOP personnel with the expertise developed by the private sector under its "Training with Industry" program. The program caused concern about the influence these soldiers might have on American news and the programs were terminated.
National Public Radio reported on April 10, 2000:
The U.S. Army's Psychological Operations unit placed interns at CNN and NPR in 1998 and 1999. The placements at CNN were reported in the European press in February of this year and the program was terminated. The NPR placements will be reported this week in TV Guide.[21]
[edit]

This is how they control media. 

Dude, I know your not this stupid.  Your obviously playing with me and there's really no point in it.

tell Nixon that the Gov't controls the media :)..however your point is well taken..I still,think you're wrong but..I have to admit that a lot of people believe what you wrote
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: delon on July 09, 2012, 07:46:03 PM
The reason the beetles were so popular and people were fanatical about them was because of the mainstream media or MSM.  But why?  Simple, who controls the MSM?  The CIA or information/propaganda arm of the U.S. Government.  Alot of people think the cia is this Fbi type force, no.  They do not enforce law.  They are what they are:  Intelligence Services...or just another term for propaganda ministry.  Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, etc, and many many other news corespondents are former or trained CIA.  Even the movies are cia scripts.  Why do you think the CIA is always portrayed as 007 type assassins in the movies?  To throw you off of what they really do.  Ever seen a real cia agent?  Enough said.

But anyway, so about the Beetles.  What all was going on before the Beetles phenomenon?  Ah..The Hippie Movement among many other political parties (Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, etc).  Basically in those days (Of hardly any tv) everyone was involved in....BINGO:  POLITICS.  When everyone is involved in politics of course everyone's mind is on politics.  The people in power can't do what they want to do.  No one turned a blind eye.  So there were constant anti political groups emerging, riots, and tons and tons of protests.  Do you see protests like that today?  There's your answer to why the Beetles were so popular.  You don't see protests like that today.  And it's because it's engineered.

Think about it, what was the 60's known for?  The beginning of the drug revolution.  You think that was an accident?  No.  LSD was created by the cia for interrogation purposes.  Let me guess how it just happened to find it's way all over America in break neck speed with everyone and their mother doing it.  Hmm.  Then you have the marijuanna craze.  How many people were smoking pot in the 50's?  Barely any.  Wonder what made everyone just happen to start doing that?  Gee.

Fast forward to today, and nothing's changed except the CIA/Gov't has gotten better and suppressing the people.  The Beetles was the start of it all.  The start of the "Celeb Craze".  Because when people have their minds on something like that, their minds are off politics.  Look at things today, how many people are really into politics?  Or REALLY know anything about what is going on, and NO i'm not talking about what this radio or that radio head said.  If it's on the radio, doesn't matter WHO said it, it's engineered.  Even Alex Jones or other wanna be patriots.  These guys are just as involved.  Their just different flavors for different folks. 

The point is, celeb craze, drugs, tv shows, are all tools to get the masses minds off whats really going on.  And it's NOT the people who are boosting these celebs, it's the media making you think that.  Ever since the Beetles you've had Elvis, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Madonna again, Brittany, and on and on and on.  You will always have some big music artist or movie star.  It's all contrived.  The Roman's created the Arena to keep the peoples minds occupied.  It's no different today, all bread and circus to keep the populace out of what's really going on.  Just think about it, and think hard.  It may not come to you now, but it will eventually.  Same thing with drugs.  Funny how new drugs just keep coming out ever so often, all invented within the last few years.  I'm talking about pain pills, crack, cocaine, meth, heroin, the pharma drugs, bath salts, etc.  I know heroin and cocaine has been around for centuries, but i'm talking about it's huge mainstream use in the last few years.  They're all tools to keep you docile and occupied.  The CIA just figured they had to do something and something fast to calm the people.  So they threw in everything but the kitchen sink.  Now with today's technology, it's getting worse, but I promise you this, it's on purpose.  Everyone goes around asking, "Why does the news pimp Paris Hilton so much"?  Well now you know why.



Yes protests rapidly declined as the 60's moved on after the cia-manufactured popularity boost of the Beatles which hit in 1963 (UK) and 1964 (US)...the hippie & protest movement against the Vietnam War etc. didnt hit the true mainstream until 1966 so the all-mighty CIA's 'brilliant plan' had the exact opposite effect it would seem......lol

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
tell Nixon that the Gov't controls the media :)..however your point is well taken..I still,think you're wrong but..I have to admit that a lot of people believe what you wrote

Presidents are NOT who control this country.  I really don't know who does, but they are nothing more than puppets for the people.  Iran for instance.  What power does Ahmdinejhad have in Iran?  He is ranked 13th in power and he's president.  They're are 12 people over him.  

The Nixon situation is easy to explain.  The other political party or even people in his own party got wind of what happened and that was their key to get him thrown out.  Everyone knows that the main thing a leader or person in power must do is keep their hold on power.  That is their number one goal, not running said country like most believe.  That has been part of the game for centuries.  Machiavelli wrote about it in the 14th century.  That's why Nixon was thrown out.  Every president battles that.  Not just here, but every where.  ALways will.

It's okay if you don't believe what I'm saying.  But may I ask you why you don't believe it?
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 07:50:42 PM
Yes protests rapidly declined as the 60's moved on after the cia-manufactured popularity boost of the Beatles which hit in 1963 (UK) and 1964 (US)...the hippie & protest movement against the Vietnam War etc. didnt hit the true mainstream until 1966 so the all-mighty CIA's 'brilliant plan' had the exact opposite effect it would seem......lol



Once again, I said it was the start.  Nothing anyone does works right away.  It takes time.  Look at things today.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 07:57:24 PM
Yes protests rapidly declined as the 60's moved on after the cia-manufactured popularity boost of the Beatles which hit in 1963 (UK) and 1964 (US)...the hippie & protest movement against the Vietnam War etc. didnt hit the true mainstream until 1966 so the all-mighty CIA's 'brilliant plan' had the exact opposite effect it would seem......lol



The Beetles began in 62 and were world known by 64.  But you have to keep in mind, music artists and movies stayed around alot longer back then they do today.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: delon on July 09, 2012, 07:58:10 PM
Once again, I said it was the start.  Nothing anyone does works right away.  It takes time.  Look at things today.

No you are just wrong.

If there is an underlying reason, rather than people 'just liking stuff', behind artificially-created mass media phenomenon it is money not the CIA picking the latest justin bieber....jesus lol

Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: delon on July 09, 2012, 07:58:59 PM
The Beetles began in 62 and were world known by 64.  But you have to keep in mind, music artists and movies stayed around alot longer back then they do today.

All true but what's your point?
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 08:07:14 PM
No you are just wrong.

If there is an underlying reason, rather than people 'just liking stuff', behind artificially-created mass media phenomenon it is money not the CIA picking the latest justin bieber....jesus lol



No my friend, that's excatly how the psyop is suppose to work.  It's what they want you to think.  Honestly, do you like Justin Bieber?  

Yes, there is money to be made, that is part of the equation.  And most important is people liking it.  But there's more to it than that.  Once again, how well do you like Justin Bieber?  You really don't think they know by now what people like, lol?  Ever heard of Sigmund Freud and Edward Bernays?  If not, study about these two and you'll understand how easy it is to get people to like something.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Danjo on July 09, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Thoth making some damn good posts up in here....very interesting and thought provoking.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 08:15:45 PM
And yes, I know the cia didn't hire Justin Bieber, hell he probably doesn't know anything about any of this.  But I'll tell you who probably does.  The record company execs.  It is a known fact the cia is in regular touch with hollywood and the movies they produce often reading the scripts before they're released.  Don't think they don't do this with the music industry to.  Of course they are going to put things out there that people like.  How else would it get their attention.

Movies for instance.  They were going to remake Red Dawn, but this time take out the Russians and replace them with the Chinese.  Because of the current tensions with China, Obama has requested the movie not be made now.  Do you get it now?  The gov't is controlling the media and they want you hooked on it like drugs.  Has it made the actors and artists richer, sure.  But that still doesn't mean the gov'ts not wanting you to be overindulged in this.  And Oh Dang, I forgot though, now Red Dawn may have North Korea in it.  WOW.  Wonder why.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Hulkotron on July 09, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
I have studied the phenomenon called "The Cock" and have concluded that "jephrius" is a leading consumer.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 09, 2012, 08:31:18 PM
The reason the beetles were so popular and people were fanatical about them was because of the mainstream media or MSM.  But why?  Simple, who controls the MSM?  The CIA or information/propaganda arm of the U.S. Government.  Alot of people think the cia is this Fbi type force, no.  They do not enforce law.  They are what they are:  Intelligence Services...or just another term for propaganda ministry.  Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, etc, and many many other news corespondents are former or trained CIA.  Even the movies are cia scripts.  Why do you think the CIA is always portrayed as 007 type assassins in the movies?  To throw you off of what they really do.  Ever seen a real cia agent?  Enough said.

But anyway, so about the Beetles.  What all was going on before the Beetles phenomenon?  Ah..The Hippie Movement among many other political parties (Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, etc).  Basically in those days (Of hardly any tv) everyone was involved in....BINGO:  POLITICS.  When everyone is involved in politics of course everyone's mind is on politics.  The people in power can't do what they want to do.  No one turned a blind eye.  So there were constant anti political groups emerging, riots, and tons and tons of protests.  Do you see protests like that today?  There's your answer to why the Beetles were so popular.  You don't see protests like that today.  And it's because it's engineered.

Think about it, what was the 60's known for?  The beginning of the drug revolution.  You think that was an accident?  No.  LSD was created by the cia for interrogation purposes.  Let me guess how it just happened to find it's way all over America in break neck speed with everyone and their mother doing it.  Hmm.  Then you have the marijuanna craze.  How many people were smoking pot in the 50's?  Barely any.  Wonder what made everyone just happen to start doing that?  Gee.

Fast forward to today, and nothing's changed except the CIA/Gov't has gotten better and suppressing the people.  The Beetles was the start of it all.  The start of the "Celeb Craze".  Because when people have their minds on something like that, their minds are off politics.  Look at things today, how many people are really into politics?  Or REALLY know anything about what is going on, and NO i'm not talking about what this radio or that radio head said.  If it's on the radio, doesn't matter WHO said it, it's engineered.  Even Alex Jones or other wanna be patriots.  These guys are just as involved.  Their just different flavors for different folks. 

The point is, celeb craze, drugs, tv shows, are all tools to get the masses minds off whats really going on.  And it's NOT the people who are boosting these celebs, it's the media making you think that.  Ever since the Beetles you've had Elvis, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Madonna again, Brittany, and on and on and on.  You will always have some big music artist or movie star.  It's all contrived.  The Roman's created the Arena to keep the peoples minds occupied.  It's no different today, all bread and circus to keep the populace out of what's really going on.  Just think about it, and think hard.  It may not come to you now, but it will eventually.  Same thing with drugs.  Funny how new drugs just keep coming out ever so often, all invented within the last few years.  I'm talking about pain pills, crack, cocaine, meth, heroin, the pharma drugs, bath salts, etc.  I know heroin and cocaine has been around for centuries, but i'm talking about it's huge mainstream use in the last few years.  They're all tools to keep you docile and occupied.  The CIA just figured they had to do something and something fast to calm the people.  So they threw in everything but the kitchen sink.  Now with today's technology, it's getting worse, but I promise you this, it's on purpose.  Everyone goes around asking, "Why does the news pimp Paris Hilton so much"?  Well now you know why.




Spot on. The CIA created the hippy movement.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 09, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
jeez, I thought I was a conspiracy theorist. I believe the cia helps promote and even fund many movements, I even saw a doc about these revolutionary kids in college who were hired by the them to promote their agenda. but this is a little over the top for me to believe.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 09, 2012, 08:57:55 PM
jeez, I thought I was a conspiracy theorist. I believe the cia helps promote and even fund many movements, I even saw a doc about these revolutionary kids in college who were hired by the them to promote their agenda. but this is a little over the top for me to believe.

If you listen to any musician/actor today talk about having hippy parents, it's almost a guaranteed that the family is some part of the CIA agenda.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 09, 2012, 09:01:27 PM
how so?? wasnt it very anti establishment??...... oh i see it was to show the next generation that no matter what everyone ends up workin for the man and contributing to the apathetic country of money and war.. or you end up like that man eating out of the trashcan.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 09, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
It's not really that hard to do if you think about it.  How many record companies are they now?  Maybe 8 or 10?  All they have to do is keep in touch with the top exec's of the company.  Tell the company what kind of music they prefer and that's that.  Now, with the news, same thing.  You have MSNBC, NBC, FOX, CNN (which Ted Turner is big time in politics and will do anything for politicians/gov't), ABC, CBS.  How hard can it be for them to stay in touch with these people?  Not hard at all.  Every story that the news puts out has to go through the director or whatever they call them.  That's all the cia has to stay in touch with.  No one else has to know anything.  Like that story I posted earlier, the armies 4th pysop team has already once been caught meddling with things at cnn and NPR in the past under the guise of "training with the industry".  Whatever.  I promise you cnn wasn't the only station doing that and it didn't stop there.  They just hide better now.

They only have to be in with the people at the top.  Tell them what they want done and put the rest out through the media.  The people will eat it up like they're doing now.  Simple.  These execs will play ball because they know the money to be earned.  You think they're going to tell or play along?  What would do if you owned a record company and the cia called you and said, "you're guaranteed success but here's what we want you to do..."


Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 09, 2012, 09:43:43 PM
CHEECH AND CHONG were def C.I.A   ;D   
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 09, 2012, 10:37:09 PM
I have studied the phenomenon called "The Cock" and have concluded that "jephrius" is a leading consumer.


hahahahahah..... ;D
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on July 09, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
Thoth making some damn good posts up in here....very interesting and thought provoking.
X2
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Moontrane on July 10, 2012, 12:14:14 AM
Reminds me of the joke..."How did Yoko Ono get her last name"?........................ ................



John saw her naked! :D

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Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Moontrane on July 10, 2012, 12:27:26 AM
Ringo had what mattered most.



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Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2012, 05:11:55 AM
Presidents are NOT who control this country.  I really don't know who does, but they are nothing more than puppets for the people.  Iran for instance.  What power does Ahmdinejhad have in Iran?  He is ranked 13th in power and he's president.  They're are 12 people over him.  

The Nixon situation is easy to explain.  The other political party or even people in his own party got wind of what happened and that was their key to get him thrown out.  Everyone knows that the main thing a leader or person in power must do is keep their hold on power.  That is their number one goal, not running said country like most believe.  That has been part of the game for centuries.  Machiavelli wrote about it in the 14th century.  That's why Nixon was thrown out.  Every president battles that.  Not just here, but every where.  ALways will.

It's okay if you don't believe what I'm saying.  But may I ask you why you don't believe it?

Dude...can you take this shit to another thread?..or start your own thread?..you're really killing this thread which is about the Beatles...you're going on and on about this
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2012, 05:13:53 AM
No you are just wrong.

If there is an underlying reason, rather than people 'just liking stuff', behind artificially-created mass media phenomenon it is money not the CIA picking the latest justin bieber....jesus lol




agreed
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 10, 2012, 05:42:17 AM
Dude...can you take this shit to another thread?..or start your own thread?..you're really killing this thread which is about the Beatles...you're going on and on about this

Isn't this thread about the "phenomenon called the beetles?"  Dude your trying to hard to and looking dumber each time.  Once again, since you ignored it last time.  I pose the question to you:  Why do you think this isn't the case? 

Instead of running off calling me "wrong" or stupid or trying to get me to post somewhere else when this does belong here, please tell me why?  Can you do that for once?  Or just make your post count continue to grow by stupid 4 and 5 word posts?
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 10, 2012, 05:45:32 AM
Dude...can you take this shit to another thread?..or start your own thread?..you're really killing this thread which is about the Beatles...you're going on and on about this

And each time, you're complaining how bad my cock hurts right?
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Griffith on July 10, 2012, 05:46:25 AM
The reason the beetles were so popular and people were fanatical about them was because of the mainstream media or MSM.  But why?  Simple, who controls the MSM?  The CIA or information/propaganda arm of the U.S. Government.  Alot of people think the cia is this Fbi type force, no.  They do not enforce law.  They are what they are:  Intelligence Services...or just another term for propaganda ministry.  Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, etc, and many many other news corespondents are former or trained CIA.  Even the movies are cia scripts.  Why do you think the CIA is always portrayed as 007 type assassins in the movies?  To throw you off of what they really do.  Ever seen a real cia agent?  Enough said.

But anyway, so about the Beetles.  What all was going on before the Beetles phenomenon?  Ah..The Hippie Movement among many other political parties (Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, etc).  Basically in those days (Of hardly any tv) everyone was involved in....BINGO:  POLITICS.  When everyone is involved in politics of course everyone's mind is on politics.  The people in power can't do what they want to do.  No one turned a blind eye.  So there were constant anti political groups emerging, riots, and tons and tons of protests.  Do you see protests like that today?  There's your answer to why the Beetles were so popular.  You don't see protests like that today.  And it's because it's engineered.

Think about it, what was the 60's known for?  The beginning of the drug revolution.  You think that was an accident?  No.  LSD was created by the cia for interrogation purposes.  Let me guess how it just happened to find it's way all over America in break neck speed with everyone and their mother doing it.  Hmm.  Then you have the marijuanna craze.  How many people were smoking pot in the 50's?  Barely any.  Wonder what made everyone just happen to start doing that?  Gee.

Fast forward to today, and nothing's changed except the CIA/Gov't has gotten better and suppressing the people.  The Beetles was the start of it all.  The start of the "Celeb Craze".  Because when people have their minds on something like that, their minds are off politics.  Look at things today, how many people are really into politics?  Or REALLY know anything about what is going on, and NO i'm not talking about what this radio or that radio head said.  If it's on the radio, doesn't matter WHO said it, it's engineered.  Even Alex Jones or other wanna be patriots.  These guys are just as involved.  Their just different flavors for different folks. 

The point is, celeb craze, drugs, tv shows, are all tools to get the masses minds off whats really going on.  And it's NOT the people who are boosting these celebs, it's the media making you think that.  Ever since the Beetles you've had Elvis, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Madonna again, Brittany, and on and on and on.  You will always have some big music artist or movie star.  It's all contrived.  The Roman's created the Arena to keep the peoples minds occupied.  It's no different today, all bread and circus to keep the populace out of what's really going on.  Just think about it, and think hard.  It may not come to you now, but it will eventually.  Same thing with drugs.  Funny how new drugs just keep coming out ever so often, all invented within the last few years.  I'm talking about pain pills, crack, cocaine, meth, heroin, the pharma drugs, bath salts, etc.  I know heroin and cocaine has been around for centuries, but i'm talking about it's huge mainstream use in the last few years.  They're all tools to keep you docile and occupied.  The CIA just figured they had to do something and something fast to calm the people.  So they threw in everything but the kitchen sink.  Now with today's technology, it's getting worse, but I promise you this, it's on purpose.  Everyone goes around asking, "Why does the news pimp Paris Hilton so much"?  Well now you know why.



Interesting post.

You mentioned Alex Jones, do you really think he would be affiliated to the CIA?
I don't necessarily agree with him, but he sometimes does make interesting points.
He says the CIA has a 'psy-ops' division and all that the CIA have been involved in bringing in drugs into the USA as well as weapons over the border.
Both of these allegations have apparently been corroborated by former CIA operatives.

Anyway, back on topic.
I don't think the Beatles were overhyped, they were ahead of their time and I still listen to a lot of their songs!
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 10, 2012, 05:59:10 AM
I believe your thinking of hoover and the vietnam war.. a big reason there was a plot from the inside to take out kennedy since he was steering away from south east asia, where a huge amount of heroin was being smuggled
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 10, 2012, 06:01:20 AM
Interesting post.

You mentioned Alex Jones, do you really think he would be affiliated to the CIA?
I don't necessarily agree with him, but he sometimes does make interesting points.
He says the CIA has a 'psy-ops' division and all that the CIA have been involved in bringing in drugs into the USA as well as weapons over the border.
Both of these allegations have apparently been corroborated by former CIA operatives.

Anyway, back on topic.
I don't think the Beatles were overhyped, they were ahead of their time and I still listen to a lot of their songs!

Well in 09 the Obama admin posted a story about how they were going to infilitrate "patriots and conspiracy theorists", I think Alex is one of those, controlled opposition mouth pieces.  Meaning, he's put out there by the establishment to easily monitor who's doing what, because they will flock to Alex.  Same thing with this guy, Hal Turner.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/nyregion/03turner.html

Hal was a white supremacist who had other white supremacist's flock to him, among conspiracy theorists and others.  The whole time though he was an fbi informant turning people over.  I believe Alex is the same thing.  

If you really listen to Alex he always does the same thing.  He puts down every other conspiracy talk show host or anyone else speaking out.  He twists news stories to fit his agenda, so he's basically just twisting the news, not telling anyone anything they don't know.  He also will talk about the CIA,  but nothing that hasn't already been put out there, drug running and that type thing, etc.  In other words, he's really not bringing anything new to the table.

But the main point I'm trying to make is, it's the establishment pushing these celebs, not the celebs involved themselves.  Have you ever noticed how some movies get talked about on the msm like their the greatest thing ever produced?  You go see it and think to yourself, "what's the big deal"?  Then you'll see other movies that were never that popular and were way better?  
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Griffith on July 10, 2012, 06:05:39 AM
LOL, no.  I wasn't saying the Beetles were CIA.  I was saying it was the CIA who came up with the idea to boost the Beetles through the mainstream media to get the peoples minds on something else.  It was the beginning of the celeb craze.  It was something they decided to try to see if it would quell all the uprisings at the time.  And it worked.  They got better and better at it.  This is why you don't see people protesting today like they did in the old days.  People today could care less about what Obama just did, but they know what celeb did or wore where ever the night before.  See what I'm saying?

This is an old trick used by the Roman Empire with the Arena (Gladiator's etc).  Tv for instance.  When tv was first invented it only had three main stations, maybe four in some parts of the country.  All gov't owned.  It's purpose was nothing more than news.  Many smaller countries do this still today.  Of course the U.S. now has 100's of stations, all to fill peoples minds with crap to keep them docile and uninformed.  

I don't have any links, because honestly you won't hear about this or learn about this anywhere.  This is just what I've figured out on my own and to me it makes perfect sense.  Especially if you know how bad those in power want to control the populace un-interrupted.  Why else would the news focus so hard on stupid acts of celebs?  

I may not be writing everything out like I want to, but was hoping you guys would get the message of what I was trying to say and form your own opinions.  But if you really think about what's happening, it all makes sense.

The reason I said CIA was because that is who controls our news.  I promise you they get the jump on events when they happen before the news does.  Ever notice how ALL the news stations at once are reporting something?  Who do you think gives them the heads up?  So when they do, they've already crafted the story on how they (CIA) want it told to the American people.  The CIA was created right after world war 2, it was meant to do the same thing the Nazi's did with Goebelles Propaganda of Ministry.  Remember, the U.S. viturally became Nazi, Germany after WWII, just without their political ideologies.  Operation Paperclip was bringing over all the useful nazi's to work over here after wwII.  After all, Germany was the most technological advanced country in the world at the time.  After wwii, look at our jump in tech.  Look at Nasa, the pharm companies.  Pzifer, Malkinkrodt, etc, all German companies.  The cia was no different.  The U.S. just learned how to control information using the CIA like the Nazi's did.  This is why the CIA controls a huge portion of our news.  It was them who worked the beetles into the mainstream media to get the peoples attention.  Psychological opperation 101 or psyops.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Operations_(United_States)

There's nothing that is just foriegn about psyops either.  Psyops are routinely and constantly being ran on U.S. citizens.  Really read what that wiki page is saying and you'll figure it all out.

Good post!

Jut watch the news on Russia Today (RT) and BBC or CNN and the news reports on the same issues are sometimes very very different. Especially the news topics mysteriously omitted from the Western news media channels.

Sure, RT is also a propaganda network to boost the image of Russia, but when it comes to Western news it at least provides a different perspective that isn't aligned with the CIA or MI6.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 10, 2012, 06:12:11 AM
Good post!

Jut watch the news on Russia Today (RT) and BBC or CNN and the news reports on the same issues are sometimes very very different. Especially the news topics mysteriously omitted from the Western news media channels.

Sure, RT is also a propaganda network to boost the image of Russia, but when it comes to Western news it at least provides a different perspective that isn't aligned with the CIA or MI6.

Yes, very true indeed.  Good point. 
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 10, 2012, 06:13:47 AM
you guys have my attention now, do you think noam chomsky is a similiar property of the us govt. he did some great research and proved without a doubt alot of misdeeds the govt did, but as he got older he seemed to steer shy away from all that.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 10, 2012, 06:26:30 AM
you guys have my attention now, do you think noam chomsky is a similiar property of the us govt. he did some great research and proved without a doubt alot of misdeeds the govt did, but as he got older he seemed to steer shy away from all that.

Quite possible, it's hard to say with Noam.  The thing is though, anyone who speaks out about the establishment, you have to wonder how they got so popular.  If the cia really didn't want something getting out there, they would silence whomever is really telling the truth.  So it's quite possible he was controlled as well or controlled opposition.  Freedom of speech or freedom of press?  Sure it can be seen that way, but when every major news agency is owned by someone who is tied to Washington or politics (Turner/Cnn, Rupert Murdoch/Fox) its kind of hard to see the truth in that anymore.  Freedom of speech, ever see the news cut to commercial real quick when a guest says the wrong thing?  I have many of times.  Also notice all the "experts" on the news are the same ones over and over again?  I'm talking about the so called "analysts" and such.  Watch Fox or Cnn long enough and you'll see what I'm talking about.  They're paid by those news corps.  Everything is controlled now.

But yeah, it's very possible Noam is controlled or has been scared. 
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: bighead on July 10, 2012, 06:41:46 AM
I have experienced this first hand, I was in Washington D.C for the inauguration of Barack O bama and during the ceremony as they were announcing the former president G.W.B  a stream of boos developed and rose to a fever pitch. All you could hear for a good 2 minutes were people booing and heckling both the president and vice pres. who came out in a wheelchair poor guy,,,lol.  when I got back home they were replaying the ceremony on nbc and I thought I would watch it to see what it must have looked like to the folks at home.. well, they had completely edited out the sound and all you could hear was what sounded like wind. I guess it was bad enough without putting it on tv but I was surprised it wasnt even spoken about.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Megalodon on July 10, 2012, 06:47:55 AM
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Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Thoth on July 10, 2012, 06:51:03 AM
I have experienced this first hand, I was in Washington D.C for the inauguration of Barack O bama and during the ceremony as they were announcing the former president G.W.B  a stream of boos developed and rose to a fever pitch. All you could hear for a good 2 minutes were people booing and heckling both the president and vice pres. who came out in a wheelchair poor guy,,,lol.  when I got back home they were replaying the ceremony on nbc and I thought I would watch it to see what it must have looked like to the folks at home.. well, they had completely edited out the sound and all you could hear was what sounded like wind. I guess it was bad enough without putting it on tv but I was surprised it wasnt even spoken about.

That's exactly what they do.  Good story.  Reminds me of the toppling of Sadaam's statue during the Iraq war.  They made it look like 100's of citizens were running the through street praising the fall of the statue, beating it with shoes, etc.  Later on, it was exposed that it was all actors and only about 60 or so people.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Nirvana on July 10, 2012, 07:26:59 AM
Most overrated band in history.

Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones are the greatest bands there ever were.  not the beatles.  that statement is based on the music they put out, listen to them. 


Now before some dick-gobbling sheep tries to bring up album sales, keep in mind that bieber is selling more albums than all of the above right now, and he's definitely not better than them.

Also fuck vh1, Bob marley is not a better rock artist than Nirvana, and Kurdt Kobane is not a better guitarist than Yngwie malmsteen  ::)

Fuck rolling stone magazine.  That Clash album that killed punk rock is not a better album than Van Halen's 1st album. 




quoting rolling stone or vh1 statistics = I don't have ears and just repeat whatever I'm told.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2012, 09:35:43 AM
Isn't this thread about the "phenomenon called the beetles?"  Dude your trying to hard to and looking dumber each time.  Once again, since you ignored it last time.  I pose the question to you:  Why do you think this isn't the case? 

Instead of running off calling me "wrong" or stupid or trying to get me to post somewhere else when this does belong here, please tell me why?  Can you do that for once?  Or just make your post count continue to grow by stupid 4 and 5 word posts?

all I'm saying is I want to talk about the Beatles..you want to talk about some shit you have absolutely no proof of.....all I asked you to do was discuss in another thread.....don't get butthurt over it
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2012, 09:38:02 AM
And each time, you're complaining how bad my cock hurts right?

now you want to discuss your gayness here.....sigh..... ::)
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Andy Griffin on July 10, 2012, 10:44:58 AM
all I'm saying is I want to talk about the Beatles..you want to talk about some shit you have absolutely no proof of.....all I asked you to do was discuss in another thread.....don't get butthurt over it

qft

There are dozens of places on this site that a man can get butthurt without trying to hijack threads.
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2012, 10:59:31 PM
qft

There are dozens of places on this site that a man can get butthurt without trying to hijack threads.

agreed
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: kevcat on July 18, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
Most overrated band in history.

Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones are the greatest bands there ever were.  not the beatles.  that statement is based on the music they put out, listen to them. 


Now before some dick-gobbling sheep tries to bring up album sales, keep in mind that bieber is selling more albums than all of the above right now, and he's definitely not better than them.

Also fuck vh1, Bob marley is not a better rock artist than Nirvana, and Kurdt Kobane is not a better guitarist than Yngwie malmsteen  ::)

Fuck rolling stone magazine.  That Clash album that killed punk rock is not a better album than Van Halen's 1st album. 




quoting rolling stone or vh1 statistics = I don't have ears and just repeat whatever I'm told.

Im not one for sales either, but sales kind of tell you that the majority of people kind of disagree with you
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Dr Dutch on July 18, 2012, 12:29:21 PM
Don't you never, EVER, re-activate a jephrius thread again, kevcat...... >:(
Title: Re: I have studied the phenomenon called "The Beatles" and have come to a conclusion
Post by: Nirvana on July 18, 2012, 02:00:27 PM
Im not one for sales either, but sales kind of tell you that the majority of people kind of disagree with you
yes justin bieber is better than Beethoven because the majority said so.